What do you call girls who bridge the gap between loli and non-loli?

>>150217326
Hebe, dingus.

Bridge girls.

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>>150217326
Inferior
Probably just middle school girls

>>150217326
Perfect

>>150217326
angels

>>150217560
Why is she so PERFECT

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>>150217560
She is such an awful commanding officer, holy fucking shit. The only reason anything works is because best boys have maxed out luck.

>>150217326
Petite

>>150217326

Waifu.

SHOUJO

>>150217915
Tsurupetta shoujo?

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>>150217326
Petite or borderline loli.

>>150217326
Cocksleeves

>>150217326
Dis she get with Quenser yet?

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>>150217326
Best girl.

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>>150217326
Perfection.

>>150217766

>awful commander
>steps all over Hevia
>let's Quenser fondle her to protect her independence and chastity
>saves both their asses when it matters the most
>and throws them to the wolves when it matters the most

Faggot, she's the best commander anyone could ever ask for. Also, DEM GENES ARE GOD TIER.

>>150217326
legal.

At least I wish.

>>150218401
>>150217766

ALSO, she's a highly capable pole dancer that lifts--quite likely more than you do on any given day; every day.

JC

>>150217766
>I am an expert in military theory with a specialty in giant robots

>>150218401
Sends the two out to die on a weekly basis and would have gotten everyone killed were it not for the duo's ridiculously amazing luck. In the show she does very little actual commanding, instead focusing on punishing her troops, blueballing them whilst completely forbididing any and all sort of pornography. She doesn't do anything to protect them against the higher ups' insane plans and going by her character and absolute willingness of sending Havia and Qwenthur out to die whenever possible, I doubt she'd even have explained the situation in which they managed to bring the first object down.

>>150218667
When you have two idiots that somehow manage to destroy or steal whatever death bot you stick in front of them the best plan often is the one with minimal interference.

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>>150218624
I'm talking about her actual leadership, not her planning and tactics. She's a massive cunt who clearly enjoys punishing her subordinates physically for minor infractions that cause no harm and in fact may even be positive, for example for morale. Eg. she blueballs her troops by dressing skimpily, poledancing, acting suggestively, yet she doesn't even allow her men to have pornography in their possession?
She punishes Havia and Qwenthur stupid remarks and other equally harmless things by sending them out on suicide missions - repetitively.
She does nothing to explain to higher command how ludicrous the idea of her sending out two men to take out objects, or how incredibly lucky the destruction of the first one was.
She uses her men as servants like some two-bit ex-Soviet general in a third world Caucasus shithole and she clearly does not understand anything about military discipline, as she shows nothing of it herself and is utterly unable of enforcing it upon her troops.
0/10, would frag when nobody's looking.

>>150218827
At what point does she acknowledge their godlike luck and capability of destroying super-weapons capable of shrugging off nuclear explosions?

>>150217326
teens

>>150218914
Last time she tried to give them vacation they got themselves caught in the middle of a succession conspiracy.
>>150218944
Later novels involve her just directly telling Quenser to take charge of anti-Object tactics.

>>150217326
Teenagers?

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>>150218914
1. The blue-balling just makes her hotter
2. It's an anime and that sort of thing is standard for this kind of setting and atmosphere, it's a buddy copy series not LoGH

>>150219125
>Last time she tried to give them vacation they got themselves caught in the middle of a succession conspiracy.
A single vacation for all that shit they did? Doesn't really cut it.
>Later novels involve her just directly telling Quenser to take charge of anti-Object tactics.
And at that point they'd killed how many objects?

>>150219237
And she's still a shit commanding officer. It's just played for laughs because as you said, it's a buddycop series that doesn't take itself too seriously.

>>150219245
They get time for leave, just it doesn't seem to help much since the other time when Quenser went back home his STEM school was in the middle of a protest with homemade railguns and bombs. Froleytia is smart enough to know that wherever Quenser goes, explosions follow. Hime can tell Quenser's work from a distance just by the sound and size of the explosion.

>>150219349
Have either of them been promoted once in the duration of the series. I know Quenser's a student and all, but still. The two should have medals worth more than their weight in gold by now.

>>150217326
failure

>>150219392
Higher ups want to keep them useful or get them killed, Froleytia doesn't get much say in that and the 37th ends up with a lot of the shitty jobs. By this point they're probably the hardest battalion in the LK and killing an Object is just another week on the job. Rookies earn their place when they pop their first Object fear boner.

>>150217560

Man I really see that shit eating grin everywhere now, especially with LN trash fanservice characters

>>150217326
lies

>>150217326
Cute

>>150218914

Maybe just maybe it's cause she's a stupid LN character written for degenerates that read that sort of stuff

>>150219524
>Higher ups want to keep them useful or get them killed
They are literally the two most valuable assets in the entire world. They're more valuable than generals.
>Froleytia doesn't get much say in that and the 37th ends up with a lot of the shitty jobs
The least she could do is sympathize with her men, explain to them what exactly is going on and supporting them, like she should be doing, as a leader.
She's just some two-bit noble whore who escaped into the military to avoid being forced into marriage and now she's busy fucking everyone in her unit.

>>150219570
Yeah and my complaints are still valid.

>>150219635
It's a buddy cop series designed from the very beginning to be so that you can read the first volume then any of the others and still understand what's going on, it's only recently been slowly shifting to being an ongoing story than a collection of shorts.

>>150219635
>They are literally the two most valuable assets in the entire world. They're more valuable than generals.

Wrong. Everyone wants them dead even their home country. They've SINGLEHANDEDLY changed the face of war for the bad. The whole point of Objects are "Oh we lost are Object, now theres literally nothing we can do so we concede"

What these two guys are doing are giving people false hope that just any schmuck can destroy an object and that plays a huge role in the later books. The reason they're constantly sent to shit-zones is because if they're killed thats the weight off their supervisors shoulders but on the off chance the manage to single-handedly win a war that had the odds stacked against them that's a massive gain for the Legitimacy Kingdom.

Its part of the reason why they keep on sending the baby magnum on "suicide" missions against gen 2 objects. They want it to be destroyed so they have a reason to decommission it because it violates the current norm of war.

>>150218401
>incapable of giving you a cute daughter
>God tier

>>150217326
still too young

>>150219524
I like how the idiot's luck has turned the rest of the battalion into badasses. Even fucking Kevin manages to solo an elite amphibious bodyguard squad.

>>150220045
>They've SINGLEHANDEDLY changed the face of war for the bad. The whole point of Objects are "Oh we lost are Object, now theres literally nothing we can do so we concede"
Which would have gone away anyway, considering an object has no way of actually fighting against an insurgency effectively.

>What these two guys are doing are giving people false hope that just any schmuck can destroy an object and that plays a huge role in the later books.
Which is not a real issue for the Legitimate Kingdom's military, considering they actually have the duo that can destroy objects. Nobody else has them, so why would they care. It makes no sense. These two soldiers have changed the way people wage war and their leadership treats them like average trash.
>They want it to be destroyed so they have a reason to decommission it because it violates the current norm of war.
Which is a mindnumbingly stupid notion. Getting rid of an effective weapons system because it breaks the norm is exactly how you lose wars.

>>150220415
They also would have been shot for some of the shit they've done if not for their accomplishments and Froleytia covering for them. I don't know why you're looking for conventional logic in a series that is quite up front with how silly it is.

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Hime and Frolaytia are sluts that please soldiers for money.

>>150220415
>an object has no way of actually fighting against an insurgency effectively.

Wrong, while Gen 2 objects dont possess direct any infantry weapons their main anti object firepower still makes quick work of infantry.

>Legitimate Kingdom's military, considering they actually have the duo that can destroy objects

I think you misread my argument. Giving people the hope/belief that they can defeat an object potentially can lead to a greater unnecessary loss of life for both sides. Also pilots aren't trained to handle people committing suicide in hopes of potentially beating the Object which leads to them breaking down mentally in combat. Hime-sama was subject to this psychological attack in novel 10 and they directly blamed Quenser's and Hevia's actions in destroying objects for the insurgents battle tactics.

>Getting rid of an effective weapons system because it breaks the norm is exactly how you lose wars.

True but the resources it takes to upkeep an clearly outdated system outweighs it's use. Baby Magnum gets BTFO nearly every novel and they only reason Hime-Sama is able to pull out a victory is because of the duo's insane luck stat. Once that runs out they're fucked. The notion of Flesh and Blood soldiers destroying objects goes against everything they've worked for before Quenser and Hevia started doing their thing. That's why they kept on drilling it in in the anime.

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>>150220648
>Coming from a literal bitch who shakes her fake tits and ass for the whole world to see
Also, Hime's ohoho was cuter.

>>150220846
>appeasing the masses with virtual shit vs pole-dancing in front of horny troops
Face it anon, the LK girls are irredeemable.

>>150220985
>Ohoho can't handle the bantz directly and has to go to an anonymous image board to talk shit
Rather appropriate for the IA I suppose.

>>150220742
>Wrong, while Gen 2 objects dont possess direct any infantry weapons their main anti object firepower still makes quick work of infantry.
Go look up what an insurgency is and tell me how an object would handle it without just glassing cities.
>Giving people the hope/belief that they can defeat an object potentially can lead to a greater unnecessary loss of life for both sides
Then why wage war in the first place? What if a group decides they'll still wage war and not accept the worthless fucking power balance formed out of Object bullshit.
What if there's still men amongst the peoples. What if these men decided that a goddamn object gives their enemies no right to rule over them, like they are doing right now?
>they directly blamed Quenser's and Hevia's actions in destroying objects for the insurgents battle tactics.
Boo-fucking-hoo. Quenser and Havia are superior soldiers and men to the worthless cunts sitting in office and they simply took warfare to its natural direction of eternal development and defeating the enemy. The leadership put a man into a do-or-die mission and then chastise them for doing? Christ, the nobles are worthless. How are they still in power?
>True but the resources it takes to upkeep an clearly outdated system outweighs it's use
Then why not replace it? What's keeping them from decommissioning it? Is Hime not capable of operating newer objects? If not, then why not let her use the Baby Magnum, since it obviously enables the duo to perform superhuman feats.
>The notion of Flesh and Blood soldiers destroying objects goes against everything they've worked for
And what they worked is detached from reality and inferior to what the two are doing.

>>150217326
You call them fourteen year-olds, and they are the best.

>>150221201
13 to 15 are the ideal ages

>>150217326
Unholy.

>>150221122
Not the guy you've been talking to for the most part, and I know anime-onlys hate being told to read the novels, but read the novels. Pretty much all of your complaints are addressed either in-universe or in the afterwords. The entire premise is pretty much just an excuse to toss the two in crazy situations without getting bogged down by too much plot.

>>150217326
Made for a rough dicking

>>150221483
Maybe I will.
>Pretty much all of your complaints are addressed either in-universe or in the afterwords.
Is it done satisfyingly, though?

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>>150217326
she looks like Armin and it disturbs me greatly.

>>150221122
>Go look up what an insurgency is and tell me how an object would handle it without just glassing cities.
Objects Battles arent allowed in predefined safe zones. Any city being destroyed in an Object altercation is considered free game and falls under "too bad".

>Then why wage war in the first place?
Money and resources, the difference being that in the Heavy Object universe wars are essentially games that country's participate in hence why loss of life looks extremely bad on both parties.

>Christ, the nobles are worthless. How are they still in power?
Status quo and they offer most of the money that support the country.

>Then why not replace it?
I dont remember if they explained it in the Anime but an Elite and their object are bound together on a psychological, mental, and in some cases physical level. And Elite and their Object are considered the same thing and destruction of one is the destruction of the other. This is also why Baby Magnum hasn't received any major upgrades instead receiving minor revisions in it's ammo type like the squall lasers and this experimental missile that peels away itself to travel farther.

1/2

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>>150221572
Good enough for me at least, but again, the entire setup of the series is episodic so it doesn't have too much progression. Most of the development is less on their rank and more on reputation and feel of experience. Overall, just don't treat it too seriously, it's more of a Bruce Willis kind of action film series than a serious sci-fi. Kick back and enjoy the crazy bullshit.

>>150221771
>since it obviously enables the duo to perform superhuman feats.

Please understand that nobody wants this.

I love Quenser and Hevia as characters but I can see why everyone outside of their immediate unit and civvies would be fucking pissed at what they're doing. The notion that "Only Objects can destroy other Objects" is propaganda that has been drilled into EVERY person's head on the planet. It's detrimental to society if people believe that anyone can destroy an object due to the loss of life that failures would lead to.

>And what they worked is detached from reality and inferior to what the two are doing.

No? There's a reason why literal teenagers are allowed to be commanders in the HO universe because wars are supposed to be "clean" with as minimal loss of life as possible because again "Only Objects can defeat Objects." change that to "Objects can /sometimes/ be defeated by F&B soldiers" leads to unnecessary deaths. The only time it becomes a problem when you have fuckheads like the Faith Organization who started this shit by not respecting the white flag and that does not happen often.

>>150221572
Yes. Every book is extremely satisfying from start to finish. If you liked the anime you'll love the books and Kamachi's style of story telling. Seriously take a look.

>>150221813
Mate, the civilians love them, they're national heroes. It's the people at the very top perpetuating the "safe wars" (that the novels state to be complete bullshit often times) that hate them.

>>150221883
> but I can see why everyone outside of their immediate unit and civvies would be fucking pissed at what they're doing.
> everyone outside of their immediate unit and civvies

???

>>150221926
>civvies
>civvies

>>150219308
Hey. Results are results. She does that shit because she trusts them not to blow it, and counts on them.

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>>150221771
>Objects Battles arent allowed in predefined safe zones. Any city being destroyed in an Object altercation is considered free game and falls under "too bad".
With ROE like this, why aren't people nuking eachother in each conflict?
>Money and resources, the difference being that in the Heavy Object universe wars are essentially games that country's participate in hence why loss of life looks extremely bad on both parties.
And they have so ridiculously much money and resources they can just lose it all in wars, without putting up an actual fight? This doesn't bother anyone? Nobody tries to fight back further than that?
>Status quo and they offer most of the money that support the country.
Is a modern economy not a thing in-universe, or are the nobles in charge of all resources as well as printing money or something?

>>150221807
>Overall, just don't treat it too seriously, it's more of a Bruce Willis kind of action film series than a serious sci-fi. Kick back and enjoy the crazy bullshit.
That's how I watched the show, so I guess I'll enjoy reading it as well.

>>150221813
>The notion that "Only Objects can destroy other Objects" is propaganda that has been drilled into EVERY person's head on the planet. It's detrimental to society if people believe that anyone can destroy an object due to the loss of life that failures would lead to.
A lot of things are detrimental to society, yet they're still being actively done all the time. If telling the truth harms society, it's certain the truth's still going to be told. Either that, or a party starts waging more effective war, like the MCs have begun to.

>There's a reason why blablashortened
Then nobody is waging actual war. They're just small conflicts, akin to political discussions in severity. Shit can't and won't last.

>>150221122
>Go look up what an insurgency is and tell me how an object would handle it without just glassing cities.

They actually show an object specifically designed for that.

>>150221883
They're not exactly bullshit.

The Men In Black WERE, however. And I mean full of shit to the point of being little more than a little bunch of chuunis with no real power.

>>150222075
>why aren't people nuking eachother in each conflict?

Because laser AA made nukes obsolete.

>>150222075
>Then nobody is waging actual war. They're just small conflicts, akin to political discussions in severity. Shit can't and won't last.
Contrary, that exact reason is why it does. They're just little brushfire spats between nations that are allowed to happen solely because wars are now bloodless but expensive jousting matches.

>And they have so ridiculously much money and resources they can just lose it all in wars, without putting up an actual fight? This doesn't bother anyone? Nobody tries to fight back further than that?
Of course not. Any further would impact the economy negatively, so why bother when you can just challenge them to a rematch later, but win this time?

Heavy Object is a Clan world in Battletech.

>>150220985
>anime with sluts

Please tell me you aren't lying. Is Hime actually impure? Because I'll pick this up without second thought if she is.

>>150221926
Slightly misread that, but other soldiers outside of their unit look up to them too if Charlotte is an indication.

>>150220415
>Which would have gone away anyway, considering an object has no way of actually fighting against an insurgency effectively.
Ground troops continued to exist for that reason.

With the existence of Objects, prior to these guys changing things, conventional warfare is dead. Objects are not just good weapons that were nearly invulnerable to anything but one of them, but they were also relatively cheap. Let's say two countries are fighting over resources in some middle of nowhere shitville. In a conventional war, you would need to commit a lot of troops to fight it out against each other. No longer would these nations need to commit hundreds of thousands of men and material to the fight. Instead, they send a small contingent and an object or two. If an object loses, you've only lost an object. That's relatively cheap, and an easy loss to stomach, both for the treasury and for the people back home. It happens and then it's done. If you're losing tens of thousands of men, people might start looking for vengeance, and more and more men get funneled into the fight, which could continue to escalate and escalate until you've got a full blown world war on your hands that requires the mobilization of every facet of entire nations. This sort of conflict causes massive instability and loss of profit.

Those at the top don't want this. They want to continue making money and ensuring they're top dog. If they keep the status quo, they get all the money and power they want. If that changes, their position is no longer guaranteed. Hell, they're the ones making Objects anyways, so if one gets destroyed they get to give their own companies the lucrative contracts to make new ones. This repeats itself throughout every nation. Why would they want to risk the system which has them at the top? The sole reliance on Objects is good for them.

That all changes when a pair of idiots manage to do the impossible. This is why the oligarchs do their best to get rid of our heroes.

>>150222114

MiB were hilarious. The best thing is that IA Martini girl instantly saw through their crappy bluff.

They were a bunch of idiots doomed to fail from the start. But their volume was fun as fuck.

>>150222196
>Contrary, that exact reason is why it does. They're just little brushfire spats between nations that are allowed to happen solely because wars are now bloodless but expensive jousting matches.
Yeah, but what if a nation decides to wage actual war for once? If they completely overpower the opposition in objects, they could just rush in and take absolutely everything. Ideologies, ethnicities and countries clearly still exist, so what's keeping them from materialising in conflict?

>>150222245
But why are the people willingly living beneath these selfish oligarchs?

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Loli-ish.

>>150222267
Not having enough objects to do so, regular forces being useless if the enemy gets another object, every nation bordering the two of you going "EYY, WHAT THE FUCK'S ALL THIS THEN" and mobilizing objects, other political pressures, etc.

>>150222267

There are 4 world powers in balance. If any one of them commits too much on one front it's going to get weaker on other fronts allowing other powers to take advantage.

Few volumes even deal with this kind of balance probably not lasting forever and chaos that would ensue if it breaks down.

>>150222305
Ask yourself that.

>>150222034
civvy
[siv-ee]
noun, plural civvies.
1.
civvies, Also, civies. civilian clothes.
2.
a civilian.

>>150222075
>With ROE like this, why aren't people nuking eachother in each conflict?
Objects are nukes. Nuke are considered obsolete the this world due to the prevalence of Anti-air lasers.

>And they have so ridiculously much money and resources they can just lose it all in wars, without putting up an actual fight? This doesn't bother anyone? Nobody tries to fight back further than that?

It's speculated in the series that some wars are planned to be thrown in order to keep up the status quo and this goes back to idea that this is all a game that I mentioned a while back.

>Is a modern economy not a thing in-universe, or are the nobles in charge of all resources as well as printing money or something?

They don't really go in depth regarding this as Kamachi wants the reader to come up with their own conclusions of life outside the battlefield but from context yeah pretty much within the legitimacy kingdom anyway.

>If telling the truth harms society, it's certain the truth's still going to be told

In the novels none of the victories are attributed to Quenser's and Hevia's direct efforts in order to curb this as the final blow ALWAYS goes to baby magnum or they say "it wouldnt have been possible without the Baby Magnum's OVERWHELMING support". Its also why they want them killed asap so they can just chalk it up to luck which it is.

>Then nobody is waging actual war. They're just small conflicts, akin to political discussions in severity. Shit can't and won't last.

Now you're getting it and the other anon explained it quite nicely.

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>>150222305

Same reason why they do it today.

>>150222423
>>150222075
>That's how I watched the show, so I guess I'll enjoy reading it as well.

I hope you enjoy reading them, in case you didnt know you can find the novels on Baka-Tsuki.

>>150222267
Yeah, but what if a nation decides to wage actual war for once?

This happened the anime during the Australia arc. When this happens all the other Superpowers create a coalition to BTFO the nation going against the status quo.

>>150222199
She doesn't know what masturbation is.

>>150222305
What's so bad about it? It's not like they're being drafted in mass quantities to fight in various overseas wars. Their quality of life is maintained and war is just something you read about occasionally in the newspapers. All in all, life is fairly good. Why bother trying to change that?

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HO world is actually one of my favorite anime settings ever.

So much potential for spin-offs.

>>150222423
>Objects are nukes. Nuke are considered obsolete the this world due to the prevalence of Anti-air lasers.
Hypersonic missile swarms, with a few preliminary nukes "marched" onto the target like with artillery. See how they like that.

>>150222464
Innocent girls can be taken advantage of. For example, you could tell them masturbation in public is perfectly normal. Anything like that?

>>150222199
She's as pure as fresh snow, or was, H&Q have been a bad influence on her and she's been getting a bit of a mouth on her when Ohoho is involved. Actually, those two have been a bit if an influence on the whole battalion.

>>150222075
>Is a modern economy not a thing in-universe, or are the nobles in charge of all resources as well as printing money or something?
Welcome to america.

>>150222541
Objects still patrol safe zones and have radars equal to if not stronger than base ones. They'll shoot it out the sky.

>>150222249
But their object was the best.

>>150217326
That is definitely not the case here, newfag.

>>150222541
>Hypersonic missile swarms
Dude just look at Baby Magnum. I don't have an image in front of me but I'm going to spitball that it's got something around 20+ anti-air lasers on the top of it alone. You're going to need a missile swarm that makes Macross look like child's play. Something on the order of 70+ MIRVs.

And then all they have to do is have a second object and suddenly the AA coverage is sufficient.

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>>150222633
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_blackout
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radar_horizon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypersonic_flight
These are the ingredients chosen to create the perfect nuclear holocaust in the new century.

>>150217326
perfection

>>150222719
>Something on the order of 70+ MIRVs.
Only if you try to make them ballistic. Keep them low-flying and send in thousands of !MALDs with them. Atleast one will make it through to shut off radars and that's when the fun starts for real.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADM-160_MALD

>>150222722
Sure, you can detonate all the nukes you want high over the target area where the lasers might not hit them yet and rend massive negative effects, but you're plotting a doomsday attack, not destroying objects.

>>150222719
>And then all they have to do is have a second object and suddenly the AA coverage is sufficient.
Or emplace similar systems to cover key areas if they thought it was important.

>>150222780
Object goes boom
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_bunker_buster

>>150222796
That too. If you can fight an object with a disem-objected gun you can stop nukes with racks of object AA.

I wouldn't doubt this is already the case for a long while.

>>150222819
You're forgetting that you can't get it within a few MILES of the ground without a lazer popping it in .2 seconds.

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>>150222075
Kamachi pretty much always leans towards fun more than realistic, he says it himself a few times. There's a lot of works he's writing or has written, so there's plenty to choose from if you want something to read and they're fairly different from each other.

>>150222722
All of which are mentioned in the novels. The BM could shoot them down provided there weren't hundreds of them shot from extreme close range.

It took a literal asteroid to overcome her AA.

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>>150222891
>The “total destruction” blast radius of the Tsar bomb was a full 35 km (22 miles) and every building in a small abandoned village 55 km (34 miles away) was also leveled.

>>150222959
>provided there weren't hundreds of them shot from extreme close range.
What makes you think there wouldn't be thousands? They don't even need to be fired from such a close distance, considering they can hide behind terrain.

>>150222999
>What makes you think there wouldn't be thousands?
Every shred of common sense about the practicality of such an endeavor even in a world where you can build super fast 20 story tall """mechs""".

>story tries to make a half-decent sounding explanation for the conceit that makes its premise and setting work instead of handwaving it
>autists just spend all of their time arguing over this explanation instead of caring about actual relevant things
Every fucking time.

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>>150223078
>Every shred of common sense about the practicality of such an endeavor
It's called killing objects without objects with weapons systems we have right now in our world.

>>150223086
At least they aren't arguing over stationary objects.

>>150220415
>considering an object has no way of actually fighting against an insurgency effectively.
They're shown explicitly doing this.

>>150223086
>autists just spend all of their time arguing over this explanation instead of caring about actual relevant things
Why not? It's enjoyable. What are these "actual relevant" things in the first place?

>>150223104
Yeah but try to assemble 2,500 TELs into a battery without getting glassed.

>>150223125
Then they're some pretty fucking shit insurgents.

>>150218667
>She doesn't do anything to protect them against the higher ups' insane plans
Because the higher ups' are her higher ups' as well

>>150223173
Insurgents literally can't hurt it. If conventional forces are useless what can they do? They're not Havia and Q-tip, they don't know the things that they exploit.

>>150223200
That, and she does. Not well, and certainly only to the extent her position can allow, but she does.

>>150218353
Those are lolis

>>150223164
Why not do it whilst your object is fighting, as a force multiplier. Same way AA supports interceptors and fighters in combat, have missiles and nukes support objects.

>>150223200
Every leader has a responsibility to his troops. It is the leader's priority to care about and ensure the best possible well-being of the troops under his command and inform his own superior officer of their conditions and capabilities and when necessary inform the commanding officer if the troops are too fatigued, demoralized or simply incapable of executing orders.
This is what I was taught and this is how you actually win your troops' respect, but looking at the way the military handles things in-universe, I guess they don't really care about this stuff. Atleast Frolaytia doesn't care about it, by the look of things.

>>150223211
Insurgents don't have to hurt it, they can hurt civilians, the maintenance people, politicians. They can bomb and attack concerts, columns of vehicles with IEDs and so forth. The insurgents in the Middle-Eastern sandpits weren't engaging US Abrams tanks in direct combat either, you know.

>>150223534
Yes but if the general tells you to jump then it won't matter how much you argue against it because he is the general and you're not.

Every leader has a responsibility to his troops sure but the troops has a responsibility to listen to the leader

>>150222665

Because nobody knew how it worked. After short analysis they could get through the acid thing.

It relied on surprise.

>>150222962

Tsar bomb was also too big for a cruise missile. Far too big.

And HO world has incredibly advanced satellites. They would detect launching missiles long before they were even in laser's range.

Seriously, this shit is actually discussed in the novels.

>>150223534
>>150223647
In the words of Abraham Simpson
>You can push them out of a plane, you can march them off a cliff, you can send them off to side one some godforsaken rock, but for some reason you can't slap them

>>150223534
The object is always going to be immediately at hand. That, and the problem is obliterated by having a mere second object that can be on standby whenever the other object is doing x to protect said staffers.

if you're talking about doing a Paris massacre, nobody is going to bother doing shit like that because it only makes sense to Islamists. That, and the only people who would be in a position to want to do such things are the people of a nation being subjugated by an object.

Or, perhaps, people inspired by Havia and Q-tip's antics. Which is why they want them deaded so fucking hard.

>>150223647
LITERALLY the point of Charge of the Light Brigade.

Some dumb-ass uneducateds up in here today.

>>150223534
You know, people don't complain about secondaries because of elitism, it's because they keep asking questions and brining up topics that the novels cover repeatedly. Also nuking an area you're only fighting over for resources is an incredibly stupid idea.

>>150223534
Missiles don't hurt objects. It would be like using a pellet gun to support a tank.

And read the fucking books before you argue shit. They explicitly state how an entire city can be covered by a single object and take down any insurgents with pinpoint accuracy.

>>150223647
>Yes but if the general tells you to jump then it won't matter how much you argue against it because he is the general and you're not.
Depends on who you are. If you're his direct subordinate, then no. If you're way below in the ranks, then sure.

>Every leader has a responsibility to his troops sure but the troops has a responsibility to listen to the leader
It's not really a responsibility, so much as a necessity. You either follow orders or are punished. A good leader will have troops willingly follow him, keeping up morale, unit integrity and combat effectiveness.

>>150223773
That's why you hide the Tsar Bomba: Object Boogaloo somewhere and detonate it as an anti-object landmine. Like they tried to do with that core.

>>150223839
>for some reason you can't slap them
Because you're assaulting them directly, offending their pride and honour and they are legally unable to retribute, giving rise to hatred and insubordination in the ranks. It's bad for the entire military.

>>150223886
I don't think you fully know how the Charge of the Light Brigade went down

>>150223993
1. Someone fucked up
2. Oh well not the point of our job, lets go die then because that's how duty works

>>150223888
>You know, people don't complain about secondaries because of elitism, it's because they keep asking questions and brining up topics that the novels cover repeatedly.
Well I don't care about that. You're completely free to ignore me and just tell me to read the novels, you know.
>Also nuking an area you're only fighting over for resources is an incredibly stupid idea.
But they're OUR fucking resources. We can nuke them if we goddamn want to.

>>150223970
>Missiles don't hurt objects. It would be like using a pellet gun to support a tank.
Nukes clearly do hurt them though.

>>150224053
You have to actually fucking manage to use one. I haven't even read the novels and I can clearly tell that tricking one into driving over a nuclear mine is pretty much the only fucking way to use a nuke against one and they STILL probably have detectors that'll find it, assuming satellites didn't see you plant it.

>>150224020
Exactly, a series of fuck up that the charge itself had little control over.
>lets go die then because that's how duty works
Now you're getting it

>>150224020
It sounds more like just faulty inteligence, with the cavalry ending up in a killzone and having no other choice left but to go through with the assault. What good would turning back do them? They'd just get shot.

>>150224119
Because duty thats why. You execute the orders given regardless of the reasoning or expected outcome. Shogun says 'literally kys', you say 'k senpai'.

>>150224053
>just tell me to read the novels
I did
>But they're OUR fucking resources
Now rendered worthless to you as well now as well as ruining your reputation among both the world and your own people. The territory lines of battlefield countries in HO change very regularly, so an important location lost one month could quite reasonably be reclaimed the next.

>>150224242
>I did
But others didn't.

>>150224217
This is why "questions?" must be asked at the end of every single briefing.

>>150218531
>uses machines
>lifts

>>150224053
Nukes don't hurt objects either even if one managed to avoid all the AA Lasers because of the Onion Armor plot armor.

>>150222819
Onion Armor :^)

>>150222962
Doesn't matter because lol Onion Armor

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>>150225258
>DONKEY, NUKES DON'T WORK BECAUSE OBJECTS HAVE LAYERS

>>150225258

Object can survive few direct nuke hits. But continuous hits would fuck it up. Even one hit is enough to melt a lot of turrets and sensors.

>>150226333
Nope, nukes don't deliver the pin point fire power required to get through the onion. You are right about the turrents and sensors but the ones required to fire the anitobject weapons are protected in some way by the magical onion.