Gigantic /a/rchitecture

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80s and 90s anime encaptured that feeling well. Akira is one example everybody knows. Another example is Metropolis. GitS (the movie, and both SAC) is a realistic progression of the architecture of those days - and if you put the buildings from it near to out current-day ones, you might find many similarities. Appleseed, Shirow Masamune's other creation has more of an "idealistic" futuristic look. It's like he read a bunch of architecture books from the 1920-1930s on what the future will look like. What the architects of yore predicted never happened, but it can be appreciated and treasured.

To get to the point, anime architecture needs to go back to having some resemblance of originality, instead of copying existing buildings. Read some old books on architecture, you may find something that leaves an impact on you.

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>>150200839

>>150200869
Sorry for roping in anime so clumsily at the end, but I had to keep it /a/ related. The OP post applied mostly to the real world, but I wouldn't mind seeing changes in the anime architecture landscape.
Right now, the modern Shaft is the studio which does the "original", or "uncommon" architecture well. I am fully aware that they have copied some real-life buildings, but they've done the design unique enough - the guy doing the backgrounds has surely studied architecture, or maybe that's his hobby.

Oh, and how the fuck could I forget Utena earlier? The buildings over there have the same giant, elaborate, and impressionistic nature.

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The composition of this shot was certainly designed to invoke that feeling.

Unfortunately the kinds of stories and settings tha are popular in anime currently dont lend themself to this kind of aesthetic, but I totally agree OP.

An anime about architecture would be one of the many I'd fund if I could. Also good job mentioning Metropolis, forgotten nowadays

I want to see great inverted buildings; those that are fixed in the ceiling.

>>150200616
>That 20-story building you lived in, or that you lived nearby
Commieblocks aren't that tall, though.

Massive architecture makes my dick hard, especially gigantic concrete structures.

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>>150200616
Zoning and floor-area-ratio is the reason needle-dick buildings are built in urban centers, while wide buildings are found in suburban campuses. To get the massive buildings seen in cyberpunk, you would need a totalitarian government to break its own laws and buy up hundreds of acres of land in its city center. With an unjust government, also comes rebels and the down trodden. Then we would truly be living the sci-fi life.

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>>150201059
>copied some real-life buildings
I got a folder of this stuff. I'll post the newest additions from Kizu 2

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>>150200616
Look you can't just build skyscrapers with large surface areas. Structural integrity doesn't allow it. All the support structures would snap under the load. Also fuck brutalism and fuck you for liking ugly architecture.

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>>150201834
/end
When the BDs come out I'm going to pair these images with screen shots from the movies.

Is this /a/ having an intelligent conversation?

HOLY MOTHER OF GOD!

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>>150201806
Orthodox Christian here, you Catholics have some kick-ass church designs going on. Most Orthodox church all look the same; both on the outside and on the inside.

>>150201795
If it ain't gothic, it ain't worth it.

Patlabor does a great job at showing a near futuristic enough Tokyo

>>150201970
>if it ain't Baroque, don't fix it
ftfy

>>150201994
Kek

>>150200616
I'm with you OP, I like that aesthetic as well, but it won't work in real life. It takes but a single solid earthquake and you can kiss your building goodbye
Imagine the load that would be put on the foundations, and what a simple fucking earthquake can do to them and your building.

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Nighttime-colors are important to set up a cyberpunkish feeling and atmosphere.

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>>150202314
It's the most important thing, yeah, but the atmosphere during a sunset can define a city, too.
>traffic jam
>car fumes up the ass
>warm orange (almost red) breaking through the clouds and being reflected by the buildings

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Madoka's house is post-modern, cozy/comfiness.

>>150202501
I do agree. Ultimately, scenes meant to highlight buildings and the urban environment should take place during darkness.

Aside from perspective, what will definitely put the viewer's focus upon the buildings is the light that a building emanates, and thus outlines it.
Late evening or night is the most obvious answer to achieve such a result. Another one is to have the scene take place in the shadow of an even more gigantic building that casts an extremely huge shadow over everything.

>>150200616
I've never seen a building taller than 8 stories, except some towers.

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>>150202587
>post-modern
It's De Stijl you fuckwad!

>>150202821
How? I live in a former commieland and we have those.

Depsite it being a meme we all agree Fallingwater is good right?

>>150203013
Tall buildings aren't allowed in my city because it would "ruin the skyline".

>>150203045
I speak for myself only. The synergy between nature and man is pretty good. You can fall asleep to the sound of the river flowing beneath you.
Practically thinking, though - when I think of living there, I think mold prolems.

>>150201847
What are you smoking? The larger the cross sectional area (i.e. the wider the base of the building is), the more stable and structurally sound it will be (less susceptible to buckling, and stiffer against wind loading). A narrow building is fundamentally harder to design!

The only reason real skyscrapers are so narrow is that everyone wants their apartment to have a window. Why would you live in a tall building if you had no view?

>>150202821
I live in a 21 story East Bloc building just outside the city center. Relatively cheap apartments. A few hundred families live in here, mostly working class and pensioners. Makes many things convenient. Basic infrastructure like heating, air conditioning, internet, etc., is cheap, because everyone uses it and the waste is minimal. Organizing things among tenantes is easy. The janitor doesn't have other buildings to care for, is just a call/walk away, usually here in 5 minutes when I need him to fix my shower or whatever. A concierge checks the people who get in and keeps an eye on everything. Jehova's Witnesses, charity beggars and human trash can fuck off, only get in with explicit invitation. It's nice. Oh and there's a hairdresser, a cosmetician, a child care and a small, slightly overpriced shop for everyday needs and mail stuff on the ground level. Comfy.

I take you're from Paris or so? One of these cities that cling to their history and tradition as if their dead were worth more than their living?

>>150203421
Not him, and I'm ESL..
Couldn't there be a sort of a lobby-like gathering place AND an observation deck on each level? It would indeed be boring if it was just a bigger flat. I'm willing to forsake a large window if there's such a space.

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Sagrada Familia > your favourite building
Antoni Gaudi > your favourite architect

>>150203578
I live in a European capital, yes. I think they're planning on building some taller stuff in old industrial zones. I do think there's value in preserving the old, beautiful architecture. Looking at it every day makes me happy.

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>>150200839
that's a nice city you have there

>>150203822
Holy mother of gawthic

>>150206430
It ain't gothic tho

>>150202636
In a way, "what do I do when it's not nice outside?" is the ancestral question to which buildings are the answer.

>>150206674
My mistake, I looked at it and commented before I did research. It would not even be possible to do at the time! I Do not know what I was thinking, but it clearly is inspired by that though.

I did the research.

>that 20-story building you lived in
Sorry I wasn'the born in a socialist shithole

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>>150207201
That's too bad.

More enjoyable than the American suburbs hell.

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Reminds me of T&B

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>>150203421
Why would you live in any place without windows you vampire

>>150207260
That highly inefficient use of space triggers me

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>tfw you'll never be pandora

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interior of a space station

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea5JSGVT7Qw

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>>150200869
jesus christ, when you consider the buildings in the foreground are the highest most cities go, it really makes the orange lit ones in the background look so fucking huge to the point where it's actually scary.

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>>150207774
SAC did it a lot better. Its' skylines were better, and there weren't /just/ skylines to begin with. A lot of attention was paid to the buildings themselves.
Remember when that former minister guy was talking with the laughing man? And the building that the major got her head bashed in by the US suits? That building had soul, even though it was for the most part..just concrete and glass.

>>150209064
It's the nice tint they have to them that really makes them feel huge.

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>>150209345

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This seems to invoke a similar aesthetic, if not strictly building-oriented.

YLW YWN live in Space:

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>>150209937
Fuck, why can't somebody start a bar that plays jazzy anime soundtracks? I appreciate ParisAnon's club thing, but what I really want is a tiny bar which smells of cigarettes, has some billiard tables and plays good, calm anime jazz.

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>>150209937
nice colony you have there. we wouldn't want anything bad happen to it, would we?

>>150208106

Is that anal londo?

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>>150200616
>no mention of blame! or nihei ITT
you're doing it wrong guys

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>>150211479

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The CCTV building needs to find its way to anime.

>>150207556
Americans have fuckloads of space, they want to waste it.

>>150201854

Anyone know what that building is actually for IRL? It's not actually a school is it?

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>>150201059
>Mario Roberto Álvarez

Why does Shaft have so good taste in architecture?

>>150212263
Architecture is underrated.

>>150212263
I never like how the final product ends up, but I can't fault their taste. Imagine if they hand-painted all their art / had Pablo do it?

>there will never be an anime featuring a MCM aesthetic

That said, I think this discourse is a subset of how anime generates a sense of place. There are the grand extremes (mentioned here) in architecture, now rarely broached following a thematic shift in anime generally.

Then there are also very human and realistic depictions of an idyllic setting - Kamichu and Hyouka were especially brilliant in this regard though I can't quite pinpoint why except for detailed background art and good palette choice.

>>150203244
Just visited Wrights home and studio last Night. It was an interesting experience. Looked at some of the other Wright structures in the area as well.

>>150200616
Burj Kalifa was designed to maximize the utility of the core that gives the building its stability.

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It's not Brutalist like you want, but I've always loved the architecture in Tenchi Muyo.
Not just the nigh-impossible ships, though the laser trees are cool, but the Masaki residence, after Mihoshi crashed a ship into it.

>>150208106
I want to live there.

Saving from the 10th page.

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Why is this table so big?

>>150201685
Unless the city grows organically around the building. One example is the Merchandise Mart in Chicago.

>>150212138
I think it's a cultural center.

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The Shimizu Mega City proposal was present in Guilty Crown.

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>>150221488

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Remember when arcologies were still a thing? The promise of cheap, unlimited power generation only 20 years in the future? Before this whole "global warming" thing became mainstream?

Are there any anime that prominently feature art deco architecture/art deco in general?

>>150222986
They sound like they'd be terrible to live in after a while though. Like islands, but incredibly population dense and without the scenery and nature.

>>150207260
The Freedomstan Dream. Where the white fence in your backyard is a daring expression of non-conformism.

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>>150223186
Last Exile and Baccano might be the best examples. Two other ones that almost fit are Texhnolyze and Kekkai Sensen.

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>>150207743
You might wanna see this, it looks clearer here.

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>>150224211
Since I'm at it, I'll post some more from my folder that seems interesting and on topic.

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>>150223347

Looks like Flip Flappers episode 8.

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>>150211479
I've always suspected that Nihei drew inspiration from Piranessi's Carceri plates to set the mood and scale of his manga.

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>>150224289
Ah, actually sorry, nevermind. I can't dig up any gargantuan architecture in my artbook folders.

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>>150224591
There might even be a bit of Boullee in Nihei's work too

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>>150224591
he definitely was inspired by kowloon

>>150224625
what's this from? do you have your architecture folder uploaded somewhere?

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>>150224675
That's from "Art of Mawaru Penguindrum" (this one too), I'm just interested in artbooks in general, not specifically architecture.

>>150224625
>>150224675
Not that anon, but I think that's Penguindrum. It had a lot of cool architecture as well, especially that hospital (which exists in real life, I think).

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>>150223531
>mfw that dream is dying

>>150224727
Although I enjoyed KLK, I really can't say that the scale of the hierarchies defining their structure alongside with their architecture translate to anything meaningful in the show as almost all notion of a superstructure and heuristics of a society get thrown away for bread and butter Shounen focus. It made the show's overall architecture visuals completely forgotten and unmemorable due to its poor usage.

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>>150224763
The hospital is actually a museum called The Pompidou Centre which is in Paris.

>>150223531
I'd settle for even having a backyard, fence or not.

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http://www.studioeaster.com/gallery/index.html
You might find something here.
Must be a neat job, creating fantasy architecture for anime and movies.

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>>150224813
Neat.

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>>150224763
>>150224813
Also the library is a rendering that was submitted to an architectural student competition

>>150207453
pic related is the original texture map

>>150223353
probably still better than kowloon

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>>150225018

>>150211609
Wasn't that in that one mecha manga where they have to kill everyone from parallel universes? I forgot the name.

>>150225516
Bokurano?

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https://wiki.puella-magi.net/Mitakihara_Town#Architecture_in_the_Anime_versus_Real-Life_Architecture

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>>150225651
Shaft always has such neat stuff.

>>150211609
Does China still do some crazy architecture stuff?

It feels like they are way past the point of proving something with such building.

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>>150224509
Yep, here's a bit more art of the city-planet-thing.

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>>150226351

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>>150226419
I still haven't decided if the background is a starscape or the inside of a dyson sphere.

>>150226351
Should've been a Protomen episode.

Howcome nobody posted anything from Psychopass? The buildings in the first season + movie fit OPs desc exactly.

>>150224674
Is there any place left IRL that looks like Kowloon?

Even in metropolises now you just get disconnected buildings cleanly separated with streets.

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>>150226755
I gotcha bro

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>>150226919
FLW Imperial Hotel

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>>150226987
Ankor Wat

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>>150227023
Radial panopticon

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>>150227053

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>>150227079
>>150226987
inside the hotel

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>>150227154
>[egoist intensifies]

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>>150226789
Kowloon was built by people living on land they didn't own. Torre David in Venezuela is similar in the same way. The developer ran out of money to complete their building, so it was taken over by homeless people, and they built the rest. The government forced everyone out a couple years ago, so now it stands empty, but the informal architecture hasn't been cleaned up.

>>150203578
>I take you're from Paris or so?
Not him, but, well, it's the most beautiful and most visited city in the world because of keeping their History (or most of it, because they demolished one third about 150 years ago to modernize it to what it is today).

>>150228714
>most beautiful
Anon, nips mentally suffer everytime they go to Paris and see the real thing.

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>>150229334

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>>150229993
Modern Center-Moscow looks really cyber-punk, the Mercury City Tower make it looks like it's taken from some Mecha anime

>>150226459

I'd assume the latter, there's far too much structure to the background; which doesn't happen in space.

>>150201180
Sauce on this pic?

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>>150231841

>>150226789
>>150228082
I lived in suburbia while growing up but moved to a couple of large cities as an adult. The smaller rooms and spaces here are sort of claustrophobic in comparison, but at the same time I've come to like visuals like Kowloon (not necessarily in size, but in population density) as a result. The idea of a whole community springing up in extremely close quarters is interesting to me. I've been told that Kakurenbo has a similar look to it. I really need to watch it eventually.

There's an apartment complex in Japan that, while definitely not the sheer size of Kowloon, had the same community and unstructured nature to it. I remember reading that the residents have resisted efforts by the government to demolish it to make way for a more earthquake-proof building. Wish I could remember the name or the place or find the article: the pictures were great.

Eastern Europe and Southeast Asia is the closest we have to classic gritty cyberpunk. New developments alongside bazaars, glass towers among blocks with some historical buildings here and there. Lots of technology mixing with poverty, a suit with a tablet next to a farmer selling eggs out of the back of his car.
I liked SAC's architecture, I agree with OP in that it is a more restrained version of the movie. You still have grit but it's balanced with luxury.

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>>150201180
A google image search on your pic brings up Metropolis. Interesting coincidence.

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>>150202314
More burj kalifa

>>150201932
Good thing you came along to lower the quality.

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Shot from Tokyo skytree

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This one is my favorite

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>>150203822
Respect.

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You can't have an architecture thread without some Seize in it, boys.

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More Psycho-Pass. It's mostly lore, but there's some art.