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The characters don't have any history with each other, robbing

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The characters don't have any history with each other, robbing the scene of any narrative impact
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>>150151430
>narrative impact
What the fuck does that mean.
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>>150151802
It's pretty to look at if really busy choreography is your thing, but it's not impressive and doesn't contribute anything to the story.
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>>150151430
Gilgamesh only represent the trial that Shirou has to overcome if he wants to prove that he is worthy of is ideal.

If you wanted that there was the Archer fight 3 episode earlier, or wait for Heaven's Feel movies
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That's what the Archer/Shirou fight was for.That's more the climax of the route than the final fight anyways.
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>>150151430
But Kerry adopted Kid Gil and they were like brothers
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>>150151430
I mean, in UBW Archer is more of an antagonist than Gilgamesh is. The real conflict is him and Shirou, and so the fight with the actual build-up and emotion is that one.
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>>150151430
The Archer fight was the absolute climax, Gilgamesh was just an inevitable trial he knows he can conquer.
Really this adaptation was beautiful. While not perfect, it was better than I was ever expecting from Ufotable. They managed to pick up on a LOT of subtleties and the anime was so fucking dense with metaphors, parallels and foreshadowing that the VN had to communicate through direct statements it amazed me.
>Archer planting swords in the ground.
>They appear in his back instead of the ground.
Also if you pay attention to the use of kanshou (ideal) and bakuya (truth), they thought of everything.
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>Gilgamesh characterization changes in order to be the foil for Shirou
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>>150151430
>(you)
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>>150152048
anything else that viewers might have missed? this is interesting stuff
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>>150151430
But they interact during the Fate route??
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>>150152110
Can't think of much else off the top of my head, I should go rewatch. I watched the dub when it was finally released and the dialogue was fucking perfect. While some voices still weren't amazing (like Sakura's, eugh), they translated the Archer and Shirou stuff fucking 10/10 perfect.

Also Archer almost exclusively stabs Shirou only with kanshou, the sword representing ideal.
Shirou also winds up abandoning bakuya for the last stretch of the fight and uses Kanshou as a crutch.
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>>150152260
>they translated the Archer and Shirou stuff fucking 10/10 perfect.

at the end of the day, that's all that really matters.
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>>150152260
>>150152285
They didn't.

They didn't explain projection magic, barely suggested why Shirou powers up making people think he asspulls powers.

No gram during archer vs shirou, generic j pop shit
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>>150152398
No they did all that.
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>>150152398
>They didn't explain projection magic, barely suggested why Shirou powers up making people think he asspulls powers.

Fate route explains this so they don't have to but it would have been nice if they made it more standalone
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>>150152398
They didn't do a great job with it, but they did indeed explain it. Shirou saying he can't perform projection magic at the end is all the hint you need to realize it's more of a biproduct of his reality marble.
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>>150152444
It isn't perfect, but it's fine. Fate bros just need to calm down and realize that it's impossible to capture the monster that is FSN in a 25 episode anime
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>>150152467
I'd be totally okay with Ufotable doing a Fate route movie/OVA/series after Heaven's Feel.
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There's a lot more to narrative impact than "joe knows jack and they fight."
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>>150152503
No need, studio deen already did a fine job. It would be a waste of money.

They should be focusing all their efforts on HF right now as that is what people have been asking for years now.
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>>150151430
Real vs. Fake.
That was kinda the point.
Gilgamesh is a REAL hero. Shirou is a guy who idolizes heroes and wants to be one and manages to do a whole lot of good.
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>>150152580
HF then HA.
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>>150152992
They don't usually animate fun discs but you never know. If there's an market for it, they might do it
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>>150153114
They did a good job for the HA Vita openings.
If HF is a success they should give it a shot.
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>>150153198
http://anime.fate-go.jp/

it's probably in the pipeline. feel bad for the animators who can't get a break from aniplex, namco bandai and others.
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>>150152992
HF then Tsukihime
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>>150153621
HF then Apocrypha
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>>150153865
HF then Mahoyo
will never happen
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>>150152048
>The Archer fight was the absolute climax, Gilgamesh was just an inevitable trial he knows he can conquer.
So what you're saying is that everything past the Archer fight was anticlimactic.
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>>150152260
That gif makes it look like Archer and Shirou suck at fighting.
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>>150154680
Pretty much.

>Gil clearly kills Archer
>Somehow survives
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>>150154680
Oh boy you seem to believe the climax should happen at the absolute end of an anime.
Allow me to teach you some junior high level bullshit.
If you would refer to the picture on the left, the Gilgamesh fight would indeed be part of the falling action.
He is a threat, but the main part of the story is over, Shirou's development and his conflict with himself has come to a conclusion.
Gilgamesh is a big threat, but he knows he can overcome it, his ability directly counters Gil's after all. If he can get UBW up, Gil is finished.
>>150154804
>>Gil clearly kills Archer
All you get to see is a piece of tattered cape. I think Archer has more to him than a disappearing cape piece.
>>150154741
They're not the best fighters, this is canon, but they certainly don't suck.
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>>150152992
Hollow ataraxia would be pretty wonky, what with the time-loop. If they focused on the time-loop and actual plot, then they'd have to get rid of all the slice of life, and that'd be not very good.
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>>150154868
>The man smiles in satisfaction as he looks down at the hall filled with Archer's blood.

It was dumb and you know it.
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>>150154891
Start with full slice of life episode and end with Shirou getting headshot by Archer, next episode more slice of life, end with Shirou getting shot again, and then slowly introduce Bazett. Something like that could work. It would definitely be different than the game.
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>With Archer's death, Tohsaka has lost her composure.
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>>150155022
Servants can't die from bloodloss, silly.
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Read the VN retard, when will faggots understand that the anime are for people who already read the VN
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>>150151430
>killed Illya in front of him
>killed Archer after he'd accepted Shirou
>no history
Now of course Gil has no reason to hate Shirou before him, but the whole point is that he sees him as a useless mongrel.
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