So i watched the entire Madoka Magica series, and subsequent

>>150117741
2. I guess Homura might be that strong because technically she too went through time loop after time loop, being the overlying cause behind Madoka meeting her end who knows how many times and building in power. It's kind of vague, but then show's explanation was as well.
3. Kyubey was able to seal her off because lol

>>150117741
5. It's her gentle motherly yet professional nature.

The witch powers became a natural extension of their magical girl powers. They can still use it without being controlled by it. See Sayaka using Octavia as a summon.

The thing that kept making Madoka stronger was also making Homura stronger. Walpurgisnacht too.

The incubators made an isolation field around Homura and were going to try to capture Madoka when she came down. Madoka willing gave up her memories to fool Kyubey, but this allowed Homura to witch out. The isolation field kept her from going full witch though.

Open ended / Homura's stress relievers.

keiki

File: 1456745477014.jpg (58KB, 600x568px) Image search: [Google]

58KB, 600x568px

>>150117741

5)
Because even struggling in life she managed to keep a noble intent to help the ones in need.

File: homura karmic.png (267KB, 500x281px) Image search: [Google]

267KB, 500x281px

>>150117741
1. For some random reason Madoka decided to add her to her posse I guess? Since she used to be a witch she can use witch powers, just like Sayaka did in the movie since she also witched out. It's kind of a paradox since Madoka should have rewrote those timelines after becoming a concept but I guess it's just >time shit.

2 is as >>150118017 said, Homura got as much karmic power as Madoka did going through loops and it seems like it only manifests when the girls transform, in Madoka's case going human->magic girl and Homura going magic girl->witch.

3. Homura's soul gem clouded because she was in despair over not being able to cuddle Madoka anymore. In fact she was actually planning to 'steal' Madoka back since the very beginning of the movie, and she only forgot about it once getting trapped in Kyubey magic prison since it had mindwiping properties, and she remembers again once they're almost busted out (when she says "I won't hesitate anymore"). Kyubeys managed to seal her and Madoka because they're technowizards.

4. Who knows, since we saw some 'darkness' in Kyubey's eyes at the end I personally assume Homura's using them as entropy slaves as revenge.

5. She's not.

>1.
Didn't Madoka created some kind of "Witch Heaven" where she took all the girls that shared the same dreadful fate? That's why Sayaka and Nene were able to interfere in the shitfest.
The original ending was actually perfect, why the fuck Homura would reject being happy forever together with her most beloved one just to "bring her back to life", which is a completely stupid concept, at least in this universe.

>>150118553
That's the question isn't it
Nobody knows, and nobody ever will

>>150118553
Bebe*
Fuck, too much New Game.

>>150118553
>wanting to share your waifu

>>150118608
>Bebe
Been gone a couple months;
Is this some new meme or something?

>>150118685
Did you watch Rebellion

>>150117741
>Why did Bebe, a witch come back? Didn't Madoka essentially remove all witches past/present/future.. And Bebe as Charlotte was killed so i'm not to sure why she's back in a girl form.
All continuities "existed" within Madoka's Valhalla, just as Madoka remembers all continuities (which she told Homura in naked space). Both Sayaka and Nagisa have died and become part of the Law of Cycles, so they can tap into any part of those continuities.
Alternatively, the witch part of you is extant whether or not you ever actually become a witch in any continuity.

> Madoka was strong enough to re-write the universe thanks to the years and years of time-loop shenanigans Homura took part in, making her role in the universe greater. Why was Homura suddenly strong enough to do the same at the end of Rebellion?
She was also a part of those time loops.
But also because she didn't use any pent up potential to make a wish and become a magical girl. She was just using a force stronger than despair to become a demon.
But also, you know, bull shit reasons.

> Madoka exists as a concept at the end of the series, preventing girls from turning into witches. What caused Homura to nearly become a witch (was it the fact Madoka didn't exist anymore?) and how did Kyubey(s) seal her off in the egg world thing and stop the law of cycles, or in other words Madoka from coming down and taking on her grief?..
Magical girls don't become witches because Madoka can reach them and suck out their grief. QB simply put Homura somewhere Madoka couldn't reach her, and she became a witch inside that barrier.

> What is the role of Kyubey(s) race now that the universe has changed again, or is this left open-ended?
Homura's onahole.

> Why is Mami best girl?
No commento.

It's only a matter of time before the madoka shit posters arrive and destroy a good discussion thread. It, as always, was good while it lasted

>>150119052
You've damned us now you fool

File: 1463112912955.jpg (69KB, 500x500px) Image search: [Google]

69KB, 500x500px

>>150118553
>why the fuck Homura would reject being happy forever together with her most beloved one just to "bring her back to life", which is a completely stupid concept, at least in this universe.
It wasn't just to bring her back to life, however. I thought the anime ending was pretty fine as is as well, but the movie pretty plainly points out exactly why Homura would "rebel", and in fact there were seeds that showed that she had objections to/pitied what Madoka had become in the series as well.

Actually, I'll just shut up and post this image, since it explains everything so well.

File: 1398549297781.png (2MB, 2360x5928px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 2360x5928px

>>150118553
>>150119320
Fuck, that wasn't the image I meant how did that even happen.

>>150119349
The first one was fine.

>>150117741
>Why was Homura suddenly strong enough to do the same at the end of Rebellion?

Because love is the pinnacle of human emotion and stronger than hope or despair. Anything else is anons trying to rationalize it. In the Wraith Arc interquel that concluded last month, Homura gets the special emotion called love and it was created by both her and Madoka's desire to be together again during the naked space hug.
>Tfw Shaft is aware only yurishitters still follow this franchise

>>150119349
That doesn't actually change my opinion in the matter, it just deepen what I already said. Bringing Madoka "back to life" to create a world where she could be happy was just a concept Homura created in her own head, you could say that is understandable but it was definitely a mistake and Homura simply took the bad end route, what a douche.

>>150119830
How was it a mistake? Everyone was happy in the end.

>>150117741
Sayaka is best girl. I self-insert as Kyosuke while imagining getting cucked by Kyoko.

>>150119917
>be in the Matrix
>choose the blue pill
Yeah, "happy".
I wonder if Madoka will ever be able to grow up or fall in love in this "perfect world", I mean, Homura will have her trapped in that bubble for all eternity, no future, no past, no death, no new life, and no nothing outside the bubble, is really sad if you think about it.

>>150120355
The Matrix sucked though. Smith explicitly states that they made it realistic and shitty instead of a utopia because people were thinking it was too good to be true. Not to mention the machines were using everyone as batteries. Meanwhile Homura just pretty much took everyone into her utopia with no downsides mentioned.

File: 8f51ced200c644208f9f6d14d6843691.jpg (501KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

501KB, 1920x1080px

>>150117741
Rebellion is otaku-pandering cash-grab shit. It is not canon. Discussing Rebellion is like discussing any bad fanfiction.

>Why is Mami best girl?
Factually incorrect.

>>150117741
>3
Madoka exists, but not in the physical world. She exists somewhere between realities, but it's really unspecified. That's partly why she's called a concept, the other reason is because she embodies hope for all.

File: 30550681_p0.jpg (282KB, 1060x1500px) Image search: [Google]

282KB, 1060x1500px

>>150120502
God is kind and merciful.

>>150117741

The answer to any and all questions about the Rebellion's plot holes is "we need to ruin the conclusive ending of the TV series to create hooks for a sequel, so fuck you and your questions".

>>150118343
>In fact she was actually planning to 'steal' Madoka back since the very beginning of the movie
Wrong

>>150120439
>with no downsides mentioned
Read the rest of my post, there's not even an "utopia", is just Madoka, the universe is Madoka and whatever that surround her, there's nothing else, or better said, there's just nothingness in this new world. Is like playing the same VN route for all eternity, even if Homura would never get bored of it, Madoka won't be more than a sexual doll, that's not life, even less a "perfect" life.

>>150120690
Stop making shit up

File: 1442702774754.png (1MB, 1000x1414px)

1MB, 1000x1414px

>>150117741
>1
In story reason was because Madoka had a grand plan to get Homura out of the incubator's clutches
The real reason is fanservice
>2
plot
>4
It's not clear, but I think the consensus is that they're Homura's little bitches.
>5
pic related

>>150120690
Homura's barrier pretty explicitly expanded to cover the universe.

File: ce25a0340d4cfe4bb00ca284c8786078.jpg (443KB, 1300x1000px) Image search: [Google]

443KB, 1300x1000px

This thread is on about Madoka's butt from now on.

>>150120646
It's true. She was having second thoughts but her experience with memory-wiped Madoka and hearing her 'true' feelings steeled her conviction and so she followed through with it, which is why she said "I won't hesitate anymore" shortly before busting out of the Kyubey barrier.

File: 1472159927458.jpg (5KB, 180x188px) Image search: [Google]

5KB, 180x188px

>>150120439
>Utopia
>it's a witch barrier
>Homura's minions are running around
>she brainwashed everyone
>law of cycles MIA
>The universe is at the mercy of a mentally unstable teenage girl who would sacrifice the world everything if she thought it was for the good of one person
>If Madoka gets even a sniff of something wrong, she'll get her memories back and Homura will have to brainwash her again
Rewatch and pay attention this time.

File: fd123d267b9f133c1858ce87fde82335.jpg (281KB, 600x800px) Image search: [Google]

281KB, 600x800px

>>150120867

File: 1461669363603.jpg (281KB, 706x1000px)

281KB, 706x1000px

>>150120929

>>150120925
See, all of the negatives are stuff that could potentially go wrong, not anything that's demonstrably a problem as of the end of the movie. We have to actually wait and see to know for sure.

File: 900951638fdf8ee511041cc56370c6e1.png (164KB, 1175x950px) Image search: [Google]

164KB, 1175x950px

>>150120954

Rebellion was basically fanservice, and obviously wasn't supposed to make sense.

For example, if the Incubators could literally create pocket realities that ignored fundamental laws of the universe then they've already solved heat death.

>>150120925
Not to mention that Madoka herself doesn't even feel like she belongs in there, defeating the whole purpose of the whole thing

>>150120925
And yet we see everyone at the end living their lives in bliss, except for Homura who falls off a cliff. Truly the hero they don't deserve.

File: 1449501325397.gif (1016KB, 500x281px) Image search: [Google]

1016KB, 500x281px

Sayaka~

>>150120995
How do you figure?

>>150120802
So what once Madoka die? Will Homura let Madoka get married or have children? And what about those children? Will they live happy lives? Homura will only reset the reality to make the world perfect for Madoka every time, she won't let her die, she won't let her go, simple as that, i'm not making shit up. And my main point remain, that the first world that Madoka created was perfect and Homura just shit everything up.

>>150120972
>potentially
>law of cycles MIA
It's not that it will potentially go wrong, it's that it WILL go wrong.
And the way Homura made everything happen was bad. She essentially backstabbed everyone so she could fullfill her fantasy.

File: 68b1a8b41918cb8566c9f7fe8b60aa89.jpg (586KB, 810x1080px) Image search: [Google]

586KB, 810x1080px

>>150120990

>>150121014
Oh fuck off you cancerous shit, we're having a good thread here without your circlejerk attentionwhoring.

File: 1474641194607.jpg (17KB, 429x399px)

17KB, 429x399px

>>150121003
Ignorance is bliss, I guess.

>>150121042
Obviously Homura will seduce Madoka. As for the late future, depends if Homura has power over life and death or not.

File: 4e5e590d1538117b0fb5ad326e24bbf3.jpg (104KB, 600x875px) Image search: [Google]

104KB, 600x875px

>>150121048

>>150121045
Wraiths still exist, ergo the Law of Cycles is still active. Homura explicitly split Madoka in two. That will surely have some sort of ramifications, but we have no way of knowing what yet.

>the way Homura made everything happen was bad
Hero they don't deserve etc.

>>150120547
I love her

>>150121021
If the Incubators could trap and contain Madoka, then they should also be able to suppress the the death death.

At the very least they could simply create a mirror reality that won't die from heat death.

>>150121106
Sayaka was a part of the law of cycles, and Homura said Sayaka wasn't supposed to come back, yet she did. If that's not an indication that the law of cycles is defunct then I don't know what is.
>wraiths still exist
we never see that
>Homura explicitly split Madoka in two
Homura split Madoka from her powers (madokami) and consumed them, and she plopped Madoka in her barrier with everyone else after she brainwashed her.

>>150121211
Where do these assumptions come from? Being able to create a closed space doesn't mean they can subvert entropy. And the whole mirror reality thing is a property of witch's barriers, not Incubator technology. And they can ALREADY suppress the heat death, that's exactly what they're doing the entire time they're on Earth.

>>150117741
Rebellion isnt canon.

>>150121246
>we never see that
Homura mentions wraiths.
>inb4 "hurr she's a devil she must be lying for no reason"
There's no reason to include a line like that if it's not meaningful. The existence of wraiths means that the LoC's main function is still working, period.

>Homura split Madoka from her powers (madokami) and consumed them
Where do you get that? Homura's power came from her own emotions, not stealing Madoka's.

>>150121088
She obviously have, so what? She will make Madoka and her family inmortal? And what about the people her family consider important too? She will just make them inmortals? And so on till everyone in the universe is inmortal? Now that sounds stupid.

>>150121381
Why the fuck are you asking me?

>>150121418
Why did you reply to me?

>>150121314
Except you forget Madoka's wish. The most important part being:
>"I will erase every witch in every universe, past and future with my own hands."
Since she said "...with my own hands," the law of cycles literally cannot function without her.
>wraiths
If you give me a timestamp I'll go see
>powers
I'll give you that.
>Sayaka
I want to see you refute this

I'm on the last episode of Madoka should I go ahead and watch the movies? Some people say their garbage.

>>150121476
Because you asked me a question, so I answered. Now answer mine. Why the fuck are you asking me about possible future storylines when I'm not a writer for the series?

File: Puella.Magi.Madoka.Magica.the.Movie.Part.III.Rebellion.mkv_snapshot_01.44.04_[2016.07.11_22.07.39].jpg (249KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

249KB, 1920x1080px

>>150121501
Just watch the conversation between Homura and Sayaka again, it's not that long.

>Sayaka
This is no more a sign that the LoC has stopped working than Madoka's existence is. Homura broke off part of the LoC, and Sayaka and Nagisa got swept along for the ride.

>>150121511
First to are recaps that take out a lot of shit. Skip them.
3rd is devicive as hell. Lots of people think it's shit and lots of others think it's great. Personally, I'm in the former camp. There's fanservice, unlike the series, and there are weird plot holes in the ending. The ending in general is infuriating.

>>150118553
Because she couldn't have Madoka all for herself, as long as Madoka is the Goddess. I think that's why.

>>150121511
Rebellion is just doujin tier, as someone that waited 3 years to watch it, I regret I did.

File: Puella.Magi.Madoka.Magica.the.Movie.Part.III.Rebellion.mkv_snapshot_01.01.26_[2016.07.11_21.18.43].jpg (624KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

624KB, 1920x1080px

>>150121511
Rebellion is a masterpiece

>>150121620
>Homura was selfish
Right on point. You would think Homura would have loved to spend eternity in the afterlife with her friends.

>>150121757
Was she even on good terms with any of the other girls besides Madoka?

>>150121620
>>150121757
Because Homura thought it was too heavy of a burden for Madoka to bear, dumb-dumbs.

Three years later I'm still amazed how such a simple plot point goes over so many people's heads.

File: homura_has_many_edges.jpg (443KB, 854x522px) Image search: [Google]

443KB, 854x522px

>>150121574
>After all of the wraiths are destroyed, perhaps I will [destroy the universe].
She's going to cut herself with all that edge.

>>150121523
I could ask the exactly same thing to you?. Back to my original comment, I'm talking about what we know, and making suppositions over facts, this is the world Homura made for Madoka, this is Madoka's world, there's nothing before, there's nothing after, unless yeah, you are right, if they made a second season to solve this nightmare, everything could happen and discredit what i'm saying, but as for what WE FUCKING KNOW, this is an horrible, horrible fantasy world where there's nothing else beyond Madoka.

>>150121896
I'm of the opinion that she's just enjoying antagonizing Sayaka

I mean, who doesn't?

>>150121914
No, we don't know that. Literally all we know is that Homura put a barrier around the universe and the girls are shown to be living happy lives inside of it at the end of the movie. Whether Homura is going to rain meteors on everyone for giggles or whatever after the final frame of the movie is entirely speculation.

>>150121840
>Ignoring all of the symbolism about how much she despised Madoka's wish
>Ignoring "I've finally... caught you! I told you, Madoka. That I'll never let go of you again."

File: 1436579756343.jpg (222KB, 500x500px)

222KB, 500x500px

>>150121916
I actually like baka

>>150121973
She hated Madoka's wish in part because of how raw of a deal it was for Madoka.
Flower field scene nigga.

>>150122012
You mean the scene where brainwashed Madoka reassures a Homura about her bad dream?

>>150122060
Whether you agree with Homura's reasoning is a totally separate issue to what her actual motivation for her actions was. Please don't conflate the two.

File: IMG_5587.jpg (76KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

76KB, 1280x720px

>Who is Madoka?

>>150122077
Her motivation was selfish. Madoka's wellbeing was her excuse.

File: 21548933_p0.jpg (531KB, 600x888px) Image search: [Google]

531KB, 600x888px

>>150122096
The imaginary friend that talks to you when you're lonely.

>>150122103
Not him but I'd argue it was the opposite, that her motivation was too selfless, albeit it got somewhat twisted near the end when she went full blown evil yandere.

>>150122103
You're wrong. Madoka's well-being is the one thing she's been fighting for since the first timeline. Her interpretation of how to best protect Madoka has obviously shifted drastically, from wanting to fight alongside her initially to a much more possessive and forceful strategy towards the end, but "to save Madoka" is and always has been her wish.

>>150121914
She could also make dolphins fly and rape people, it doesn't matter, are you saying that is possible that Homura simply get bored of Madoka, the reason she did all this shit and let the world go on without her? Yeah, no, said whatever you want, but that's not possible, it won't be possible, and if you say otherwise you are just full of bullshit, that's all.

File: IMG_5588.png (139KB, 500x427px) Image search: [Google]

139KB, 500x427px

>>150122077
Her motivation was power. Notice how she always would complain about how weak she was even to the point of tears and when Madoka finally gained her power she obviously couldn't trust Madoka with it going by how bad her decision making skills were up until that point and she didn't know if it was just a big trick being played on her by the incubators. The only way to fix everything was by herself and when the power was dangling right in front of her face especially after everything she went through she took it without hesitation.

>>150122218
Fuck off namefag.

File: 1411419137457.jpg (188KB, 734x842px) Image search: [Google]

188KB, 734x842px

>>150122198
Mean to quote >>150121961
Fuck this, I just post Mami.

>>150122243
He's partly right, though.

File: IMG_5589.gif (1MB, 500x281px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 500x281px

>>150122243
I do what I want nerd and you not liking it just makes it worthwhile.

>>150122181
You're right. What compelled her to take action in the end was yandere selfishness, as you described.

File: IMG_5472.jpg (410KB, 2400x2400px) Image search: [Google]

410KB, 2400x2400px

Speaking of power.

File: homura stare2.png (202KB, 294x307px) Image search: [Google]

202KB, 294x307px

>>150122336
The whole selfishness vs selflessness, "is it being selfish if it's for someone else's sake" thing is a whole can of worms I don't feel like getting into for the hundredth time tonight. The point is, whatever negative connotations you want to put on it, the fact remains that she did it for Madoka's sake, as she always has.

>Homura confesses literally everything to Kyubey at the series's ending, which caused Rebellion
If Homura kept her fucking mouth shut none of this would have happened.

>>150122423
They would've tried to start some shit anyway, it's what they do

File: IMG_5590.png (783KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

783KB, 1280x720px

>>150122387
Exactly. Madoka is more to blame for everything than Homura but people don't really see that because Homura is the center of attention and thus attracts the most hate.

>>150122452
Except the Incubators didn't know about Madoka or the old universe beforhand. They had no real reason to experiment with.

File: 1439596719311.jpg (81KB, 323x323px) Image search: [Google]

81KB, 323x323px

>>150122473
>Madoka is to blame for Homura's feelings
I hope you're baiting, namefag.

File: IMG_5591.jpg (307KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

307KB, 1280x720px

>>150122473
2/2

So in other words she protects Madoka even in the real world. She's literally transcended the barriers between this world and hers for her friend.

>>150122552
Not for feelings but for everything in general. Madoka is literally the centerpiece of the universe and nobody forced her to make a wish in any timeline.

>>150122637
That's right. She did it because she wanted to.
It's not Madoka's fault Homura is on an autistic crusade to keep her from doing what she wants.
>but Madoka said in-
Invalidated by the last timeline. She said that this is what she wants.
>but the flower-
She was brainwashed and responding to what she thought was Homura's bad dream

File: IMG_5592.gif (209KB, 300x168px) Image search: [Google]

209KB, 300x168px

>>150122637
The only reason Madoka had to power to save anybody and become what she did is because of Homura's relentless suffering yet Madoka reaps all the benefits. Thanks Homura.

>>150122728
>She said that this is what she wants.
Point is though, she can be self-destructive. She was also fully willing to die fruitlessly fighting Walpurgis in the first timeline - does that mean Homura should have respected that desire and left her dead?

>>150122760
Jesus stop posting shitty tumblr gifs.

>>150122793
No. Sacrificing to Wally was fruitless, but sacrificing herself to become God is an objective good.

File: IMG_5593.gif (423KB, 450x253px) Image search: [Google]

423KB, 450x253px

>>150122793
It's not from Tumblr like you wanted but here's another. Congratulations.

>>150122871
>sacrificing herself to become God is an objective good
Question is whether it's worth the cost. Madoka says yes, Homura says no. They have different priorities.

>>150122892
Global rule 6, dipshit, I think we've had this discussion before. Stop being a petulant child. This is why people don't like you.

File: crashing this thread.jpg (431KB, 1500x1033px)

431KB, 1500x1033px

>>150122908
I am of the belief that Madoka's priority is the correct one.

File: IMG_5594.jpg (120KB, 640x480px) Image search: [Google]

120KB, 640x480px

>>150122728
That's the thing, It's not like Homura wants your approval of anything she doesn't even your affection for all her suffering so that's on her but at the end of the day because of Homura's suffering everyone including girls of the past were saved and if you wanted to avoid the whole situation in the first place which is the argument most people bring up against Homura the truth is that's all Madoka's fault for making her first wish.

>>150122941
>This is why people don't like you

Go to bed anon. You're drunk.

>>150122946
Well, you're not Homura. I wouldn't expect her to be a utilitarian given everything she's gone through.

>>150123066
I believe what you're saying is that this matter is subjective and trying to argue over the objectivity of this is pointless?

File: IMG_5595.jpg (105KB, 1024x561px) Image search: [Google]

105KB, 1024x561px

The truth is I think most people hate Homura because the way she's written it's seems like you're supposed to feel sorry for her and people don't like being told what to do but knowing Homura's character I can with confidence say she likely wouldn't give a damn what way you feel about her as long as she could accomplish her goals and that's what I love about her.

File: IMG_5596.png (249KB, 500x650px) Image search: [Google]

249KB, 500x650px

Compatible magicals. They are both Nutcracker queens.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EdXTqxTWxcM

File: homura sip3.png (131KB, 264x379px) Image search: [Google]

131KB, 264x379px

>>150123216
Essentially. It's like morality - you can have endless debates about which point of view is superior, but at the end of the day it comes down to each character's individual biases.
I'm okay with people not agreeing with Homura's decisions, but it drives me nuts when people don't even understand her basic motivation.

>>150123457
See
>>150122325

Try and suppress your ADHD and ignore it.

>>150123246
I don't give a fuck what she thinks of me.
I lost sympathy for her after Rebellion.
Her quest to save Madoka was righteous. It was completed in the series. Madoka brought salvation to all and eliminated the tragic fate of magical girls, replacing it with an afterlife. But Homura kept going, and she has gone too far. She betrayed Madoka for what she saw was Madoka's own good, but for what end? She made a universe managed by herself, a psychotic teenage girl who would do anything to make one person happy, everyone else be damned. She brainwashed her friends, and the law of cycles is now a ship without a captain. Sure, they all seem happy, but once the ignorance of their situation disappears, they won't be happy.
This is simply a girl lashing out because she didn't get exactly what she wanted.

File: IMG_5597.jpg (194KB, 1366x768px) Image search: [Google]

194KB, 1366x768px

>>150123602 #
Yea well Madoka would be dead if not for Homura and wouldn't have gained even 1% of her current power because of the suffering of a friend who refused to let a promise die. If her erasing the bad momories of her friends so that they can live normal lives is so horrifying to you than I guess there's just some things we'll never see eye to eye on. Homura already knows she's the "bad guy" so what's new anon? The choice we have to make is will we forgive her and same goes for Madoka.

File: IMG_5598.jpg (59KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

59KB, 1280x720px

Madoka

>even if my friends can't see me
>even if they can't hear me
>I'll always be by their side

Madoka will forgive Homura confirmed right there. A little something the boys back in the day would call foreshadowing.

>>150122371
This chart is ugly and wrong.

File: IMG_5599.jpg (43KB, 662x574px) Image search: [Google]

43KB, 662x574px

>>150124090
Thanks for your opinion.

>>150124140
You're welcome.

>>150124068
She'll forgive Homura, but their relationship will forever be damaged. Madoka won't trust Homura the same way again.

>>150124190
By seriously anon you do realize how many times that list has been argued right? What makes you think you'll make a difference? Do you have a valid argument besides "muh time travel" or are you just being annoying?

>>150124299
I was wrong about the chart.

Truly, what is ugly and wrong is you.

>>150124299
By that logic you shouldn't post it then

File: IMG_5600.jpg (42KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

42KB, 1280x720px

>>150124256
>I don't understand the power inside a girls heart
>I'm not a Moho Shoujo fuckboi

Anon I'll tell you right now that if she doesn't forgive her all the way there will be no point. I'd rather see Homura go out in a blaze of glory but that's just not likly but she'll forgive her all the way and I'm almost 100% certain about it and that only reason I say almost is because of Urobuchi but other than that I'm pretty confident.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mDYNuD4CwlI
Maybe this will help you understand.

File: IMG_5601.jpg (92KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

92KB, 1280x720px

>>150124365
I just like to brag about how strong Kyoko is. Sue me.

>>150124334
So you don't think the chart is ugly?

File: IMG_5602.jpg (1MB, 2456x3500px)

1MB, 2456x3500px

None of the losers in this thread at arms length would last five seconds without jizzing their pants. Enjoy it.

File: 1431655442211.gif (2MB, 400x400px)

2MB, 400x400px

>>150121014
Kyouko~

>>150124908
I feel sorry for you.

>>150125072
I feel even more sorry for you.

>>150124908
Seriously, fuck off. No one wants you here.

>>150125085
Why? Is it because Kyoko is a girl? There must be some reason why you're always angry.

>>150125137
Angry at what? And what does Kyouko being a girl have to do with this?

>>150125099
>only targeting apple and Kevin
Hello Kyoko namefag.

>>150125196
I already told him to fuck off.

Hello friends.

I haven't posted in a Madoka thread in over 2 years now but I'm back because I have a burning question that I still have not gotten an answer to.

Why is Sayaka such a bitch?

File: IMG_5603.jpg (330KB, 800x600px) Image search: [Google]

330KB, 800x600px

>>150125194
Nothing but you wouldn't know about that.

>>150125196
I'm not that deviously awesome but if that's what you think I won't deny it any further.

>>150125137
Apple-chan is just upset that she was tricked into admitting to being a girl.

File: sayaka shrug2.jpg (17KB, 119x141px) Image search: [Google]

17KB, 119x141px

>>150125229
You're behind the times, everyone loves Sayaka now.

File: 1454158330077.jpg (49KB, 567x572px)

49KB, 567x572px

>>150125232
I suppose. More Kyouko.

>>150125305
Too much Kyoko is not good for you. It is not good being so sore because both of you cannot stay off eachother.

>>150125261 #
You can cross me off of that everyone list. I thought I cancelled my subscription already.*

>>150125399
This guy >>150125397
is annoying.

File: IMG_5604.png (1MB, 744x1052px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 744x1052px

>>150125470
That's why people always hate you Apple. You need to lighten up and enjoy the little things.

>>150125516
That isn't little.

>>150125516
I enjoy Apple-chan. When I keep posting about Apple-chan performing many sexual activities with Kyoko her reaction is cute. It also further reveals her gender as men are very vocal about sex.

File: 1418945215577.png (188KB, 449x533px) Image search: [Google]

188KB, 449x533px

O-oh.

>>150125612
And it all comes full circle back to my point. Nobody in this thread would be able to make it in arms length of Kyoko without jizzing themselves. That's all I'm trying to say.

File: IMG_5605.jpg (435KB, 1024x1024px) Image search: [Google]

435KB, 1024x1024px

>>150125700
It's kinda weird. You seem like you'd be more of a Madoka or Sayaka fan if anything. What attracted you to Kyoko?

>>150125700
Don't be sad Apple-chan. You and Kyoko can remain in yuri Valhalla doing things to eachother.

>>150125708
Apple-chan will leak a lot of cider from herself.

>>150125819
How did you assume that?

>>150117741
and why is everbody gay?

File: IMG_5606.jpg (232KB, 800x800px)

232KB, 800x800px

>>150125965
Don't you mean lesbian with style?

>>150125994
well tell me the reason why are they lesbians

>>150126139
The yuri audience wanted it and SHAFT wanted more money.

File: IMG_5607.jpg (46KB, 480x384px) Image search: [Google]

46KB, 480x384px

>>150126189
This

>>150126139
How would you feel if some fat slob stuck his two inch dick inside of any one of these girls or broke their mouth cherry by stealing a kiss? I'm guessing you wouldn't be happy about it.

>>150126261
Luckily Apple-chan and Kyoko can grind eachother into a red sore.

>>150126139
Why not? There isn't any rule that prohibits yuri.

File: IMG_5608.jpg (45KB, 480x330px) Image search: [Google]

45KB, 480x330px

>>150126290
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2HJxya0CWco

File: Cw8jnsQUsAAzz_0.jpg (60KB, 550x520px) Image search: [Google]

60KB, 550x520px

What did she mean by this

>>150118553
It was fate. Homura was the only mahou shoujo who did not experience despair after her wish. By creating a new god something equally bad had to happen to her thus Homucifer

>>150118553
See
>>150122218

>>150126563
>fate
the development of events beyond a person's control, regarded as determined by a supernatural power.

I don't think you can technically call it that.

>>150117741
>Why was Homura suddenly strong enough to do the same at the end of Rebellion?
I haven't read the thread yet because Madoka threads are usually pretty cancer, but I know people are going to say "It's because Homura went through all those time-loops too and gathered up karma just like Madoka!"

That's not the answer. Or at least, it's not the full answer.

The real reason is because part of Homura's original wish was to be strong enough to protect Madoka.

Madoka is now a goddess. The QBs are now able to threaten her. We know it's in Homura's character to manipulate Madoka's life to keep her safe, if need be. And we know she's developed some pretty severe psychological issues through everything, especially through the course of the movie. Put it all together, and you get Devil Homura.

File: IMG_5609.gif (1MB, 500x280px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 500x280px

I'll bust out some sweet jams since the thread is so quiet right now.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bMoD33Xz3rM

File: IMG_5611.png (853KB, 900x655px)

853KB, 900x655px

Happy thanksgiving nerds.

File: 1338418704125.gif (2MB, 480x270px)

2MB, 480x270px

Happy thanksgiving!

>>150117741
>Why did Bebe, a witch come back?
The timeline got rewritten when Madoka became a goddess, and despite having killed Mami in a previous timeline, Bebe never got to become a witch. For whatever reason, she decided to join Sayaka and Madoka in saving Homura. And because it's a convenient plot device, being part of the law of cycles means they can command their witch form at will. Because magic.
>Why was Homura suddenly strong enough to do the same at the end of Rebellion?
I see this asked a lot. To me the answer is fairly obvious, but maybe I'm missing something. Homura's wish was specifically
>...instead of her protecting me, I want to be strong enough to protect her. In order for Homura's wish to stay true, she had to be stronger than Madoka. Madoka's wish had to stay true too, but she had to become a goddess to resolve a paradox where she destroyed her witch form. Now in order for Homura's wish to come true, I theorize, Madoka can't save her, as Homura has to be the one protecting Madoka. So Homura creates a labyrinth, rips Madoka out of her void, and replays the first day of school to reverse roles and keep Madoka from returning to the god-void.
>how did Kyubey(s) seal her off in the egg world thing and stop the law of cycles
Kyubey's race was the one who invented the magic/technology to turn souls into soul gems and grant wishes, so for the sake of the plot, it makes sense they'd come up with technology to isolate a soul gem from outside influence, once Homura told them that detail about Madoka at the end of episode 12. Now Kyubey is greedy and wants to harvest energy from witches' suffering, so he builds a soul gem container as a trap for Madoka, so he can undo the law of cycles and/or harvest energy from a god. Homura dun fucked up.
>is this left open-ended?
Yes it is.

>>150127246
Bebe came back because she was a magical girl.
Also only Sayaka could "summon" her witch form because she actually turned into one in the previous time line.

At least that's how I understood it

>>150121045
>She essentially backstabbed everyone so she could fullfill her fantasy.
I think she HAS to fulfill her fantasy, because Kyubey's wish is imprinted in her soul. If her wish doesn't come true, it breaks the rules of the universe or something.

>>150125099
He is more welcomed than a certain autist.

>>150119763
>tfw madoka is your favorite franchise and you dont even like yuri
FeelsGeneralizedMan

i want to see some fanart of kyoko and apple-chan

File: Untitled.png (26KB, 596x688px) Image search: [Google]

26KB, 596x688px

Mod was right. Contain your autism, please.

File: 059 - OfOnOjz.png (2MB, 2022x1956px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 2022x1956px

>>150125708
I could

Now, Sayaka on the other hand...

File: 116 - F3Ng4Lh.jpg (1MB, 1378x942px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1378x942px

>>150125933
As a Sayaka fan, we have a certain degree of fanatical about us.

No offense, of course.

File: IMG_5612.jpg (345KB, 1180x960px) Image search: [Google]

345KB, 1180x960px

>>150127821
The sad part is you read every single one of them edgelord. We all know you have no self control or willpower.

>>150117741
>Why did anything Rebellion?

Fanservice and shock value.

>>150127987
My bad. Sorry to bother you. I won't respond to you anymore.

>>150128034
Thanks for proving my point.

File: 1425436863788.png (713KB, 717x1000px) Image search: [Google]

713KB, 717x1000px

>>150127743
Eating is good.

>>150127946
I was asked to tone it down a bit a while ago.

File: IMG_5613.jpg (242KB, 800x1000px) Image search: [Google]

242KB, 800x1000px

Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one who even cares about Madoka anymore and you've all forgotten about my heart. I walk this path alone but I stand tall because my girlfriend Kyoko Sakura is by my side.

>>150128079
noice

File: 0ac74a3c1fafb650e6a38e6988bbb9ad.jpg (3MB, 3464x2541px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 3464x2541px

>>150127076
>>150127231
Happy Thanksgiving! I hope everyone has a wonderful day! Make sure that you two do not fight anymore on such a day, okay?

File: 1431795251400.jpg (98KB, 500x350px)

98KB, 500x350px

>>150128226
What do you mean? Discussing Madoka? What else can we even talk about that hasn't been spoken of to high hell? Did you find anything new? Also, I feel bad for you.

File: IMG_5614.jpg (158KB, 1024x576px) Image search: [Google]

158KB, 1024x576px

>>150128427
Maybe that wouldn't have happened if you showed up earlier so it's basically your fault.

>>150128443
I'm literally not getting enough attention and that's why I'm feeling this way. I do think I'll be okay when I eat some good thanksgiving food though.

File: 1430346009354.png (651KB, 1280x1024px) Image search: [Google]

651KB, 1280x1024px

>>150128480
You actually care about attention?

>>150128537
I'm a bad person but that's probably why I like the Madoka franchise. Think about it.

The answer to all your Rebellion questions is that the production committee belatedly decided to change the ending to ensure a sequel, and as a result the ending is an incoherent, illogical, out of character mess that was cobbled together in five minutes without making any changes to the rest of the script to accomodate the new ending. None of it makes any sense, but fanboys will defend it no matter straws they have to grasp (the best one I've heard is that there are buried visual references to Sigmund Freud or something, and that explains EVERYTHING).

>>150128640
>I can't understand the ending but the problem isn't me but instead every single person who worked on the series fucked up big time

>>150128427
Apple-chan should baste herself so Kyoko can keep eating her.

File: 1428555206951.jpg (75KB, 556x599px) Image search: [Google]

75KB, 556x599px

Friendly reminder that apples aren't meant for lewding.

>>150129718
But Apple-chan and Kyoko are meant to be sexualized together.

>>150128443
>Kyoko inside you
That is right. You enjoy that.

LoC Madoka > pre-Rebellion Homura > Mami > Kyoko > Sayaka = normal Madoka > post-Rebellion Homura

File: 025 - 980g6ej.jpg (1MB, 1254x1771px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1254x1771px

>>150130403

File: 1430000570271.jpg (63KB, 598x551px) Image search: [Google]

63KB, 598x551px

>>150130403
>>150131554

File: A9QqZyBCUAA1u5L.jpg (67KB, 434x600px) Image search: [Google]

67KB, 434x600px

>>150125229
>>150125261

When exactly did Homura replace Sayaka as the most hated?

The movie really helped her character, and we all know what it did for Homura.

>>150132185
Why so sad? Apple-chan and Kyoko are very sexual. It is natural to put them in these situations.

>>150132431
Did I scare your trip off?

File: 829 - AA418aq.png (119KB, 281x440px) Image search: [Google]

119KB, 281x440px

>>150132441
>Homura replace Sayaka as the most hated?
As things stand, Homura's both most hated and both most loved. A lot of people I know who hate the series after rebellion hate it because of what Homura did, the other half loved it because of that same action.

People mostly hate Sayaka for her naiive stupidity in the beginning of the series, though she matures as it goes on.

Why didn't they just wish for Mami to come back alive?

File: b784258a49b04125249b4e9539b92935.jpg (144KB, 1000x1414px) Image search: [Google]

144KB, 1000x1414px

Back from work.
Posting more lewd Madoka.

>>150134327
I'd rather lewd Apple-chan with Kyoko.

>>150134297
Because then Homura would have been forced into another timeskip, it was literally impossible for Madoka to beat it without going into Godoka.

Why didn't Madoka rewrite the concept of entropy or create something else Kyubey could use as storage. Is she retarded, I thought that would be the obvious ending as Kyubey is actually trying to do some good nope she's just as selfish as the other magical girls.

Also how did Mami die if she only lost her head.

>>150135349
Why didn't Homura just reset when Mami died? Get herself, Mami and apple-chan to kill the Walpurgis Witch?

>>150135659
What about the grief cubes?

>>150135716
What?

File: mami.jpg (851KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

851KB, 1920x1080px

>>150135659
> how did Mami die if she only lost her head
Look closely at her head.

Why didn't Homura just find the girl who was gonna become the walpurgis with and kill her?

>>150135733
Those are not going to benefit them in the long run.

>>150135659
She's 14. She doesn't give a fuck about entropy.

File: 1364331773619.jpg (158KB, 600x465px) Image search: [Google]

158KB, 600x465px

Serious question.
Now that the mods are finally cracking down in generals, are these canceous Madoka threads going to purged?

>>150118553
>muh perfect ending
No, it was not "meguca heaven," it's implied to be more "meguca instrumentality" where the Law of Cycles is a collective existence. Homura wouldn't have been so much "reunited" as she would have been "absorbed".

Homura also eliminated the threat of the Incubators, which Madoka failed to do.

>>150121042
>So what once Madoka die?
Since her soul would be unbound from her body, she'd probably try to reconnect with the Law of Cycles, so Homura would forcibly reincarnate her. This also has parallels with Samsara, which is the path Homura has chosen.
>Will Homura let Madoka get married or have children?
Yes, in Homura's eyes, she doesn't deserve Madoka's love.
>And what about those children? Will they live happy lives?
Depends on how much Homura twists the universe to their favor.

>>150121973
>proceeds to revoke their friendship after rewriting the universe
>sits on a hill alone instead of brainwashing her

>>150135716
Because she could never convince Mami to join her. If she tried reverting to Moemura, then Sayaka would turn witch and Mami would break and try to murder them again.

>>150135760
You should make a doujinshi of you Kyoko and a bed. Make it as detailed as possible.

>>150135659
>rewrite the concept of entropy
Because doing so would literally affect every reaction in the universe, which would alter the universe into an unrecognizable state.

>>150136896
At this point it is safe to say the the incubators aren't completely truthful.

>>150137602
Food sounds like a more fun option, afterall, what are we going to do on a bed?

>>150137805
fuck off kimmo alm

>>150138448
Good idea. You and Kyoko will lay on a bed as both you and Kyoko eat eachother out for an entire night.

File: 1425922122691.png (630KB, 1000x800px)

630KB, 1000x800px

>>150138669
Can it not be lewd? I can eat with Kyouko instead.

Homura did it because it's better to reign in hell than to serve in heaven. All this incubator stuff is made up by fans to apologize her actions.

>>150139038
As you wish. I enjoy you revealing your being a girl because as I say men would always brag about the slightest of sexual interactions which is something you are not doing.