So does Japan consider him a villain, or a hero?

They consider him a meme. He was the guy who "killed the bird" for the longest time but now we're so far removed from those events it's funny to talk about him genociding monks and shit. Sort of like how people will talk about Hitler 500 years from now.

>>150116834
Depends of what politics the author of whatever media is writing about him

I'm pretty sure conservative japs think he's a hero and the progressive japs think he is evil

Depends where people stand.

Much like how people either like or hate Columbus for his work on America.

He's a "villian" that did nothing wrong

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>hero
>villian

>>150116907
But wasn't he progressive in a way?

>>150116899
>2516
>the holocaust was a meme
I can see it now.

>>150117046
See >>150116962 as well

I don't know jackshit about him but eh, it's a nip thing

>>150117083
>>150116899
>Implying we don't talk about Hitler in that sense already

burgers are fucking dumb

>>150116962
You mean Colon
>>150116834
He was chuuni as fuck

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I prefer the timeline when he was a she.

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>>150117323
When will they reveal who this mysterious man was?

He's usually considered the most ruthless and cruel of the Big Three. Some defend his unnecessary slaughtering of nearby civilians at Mount Hiei because he wanted to end the fighting quicker with shock and awe: if you go against me, you're fucked, so give up and let me unify the country already. Others say he was a friend of merchants and local business, and the economy in the areas he controlled prospered. The fact remains that he was a bloodthirsty butcher to his enemies and a very difficult character with a short temper to his allies and retainers. If nothing else, he was a brilliant military commander and strategist.

>>150117323

That androgyne on the horse sliced an arrow in twain but completely missed the camera that was flying directly into their exposed eyeball.

>>150117323
S2 when? This is probably the only isekai anime that deserves one.

>>150117648
What are you doing? Studying for the GRE?

>>150117599

Who are in the big 3?

>>150117697
Nobunaga - kicked off the reuinfication of Japan before he got assassinated
Toyotomi - finished what Nobunaga started, then nearly squandered everything by going off on military adventures in Korea
Tokugawa - consolidated the gains made by the other two and created a shogunate lasting over 200 years

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>>150117323
Which one?

He can be seen as a progressive leader who's advance beyond his time, a ruthless monster who destroy everything that stand in his way, or even both. Kind of like Cao Cao, see him as a villain or a hero.
>>150117697
Nobunaga, Toyotomi, and Tokugawa. Seen as the three unifiers of Japan. Tokugawa get less credit than most since he's seen as swooping in at the last moment and taking over after Nobunaga and Hideyoshi died.

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>>150116834
How do we fend off /jp/ attacks?

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>>150117323
>>150117414
I miss my dank masked man memes.

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>fivehead
>backstabbing bitch
>can't make takoyaki

Who is the worst girl, and why is it Mitsuhide?

>>150117746
>squandered
He could have become the new emperor of the Chinese continent if it weren't for some shitty 16th century disease

Keep in mind history is mostly written by the victors.

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>>150118054
But she gets my dick so hard.

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So does Britain consider her a villain, or a hero?

>>150118054
>backstabbing bitch
I'm curious if this is still even possible in the LN.

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>>150118054
LIES!

FIVEHEAD A CUTE!

RESPECT FOR THE DEAD MAN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqXXWPWl6bc

>>150118224
The Wikipedia page says she often has a sense of foreboding of a dark future awaiting her. Haven't read the actual books because I can't find them. Is the series anywhere close to finishing? I know they sell very well.

>>150118243
Jesus that's like a fucking sixhead.

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Hero or villain one things for certain.

Respect for the Deadman

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>>150118243
Is she a distant ancestor of Takagi-san?

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but seriously, we all know who was really best girl

pic very related

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>>150117323
>I prefer the timeline when he was a she
Me too anon.

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>>150118603
Just for the record, I wouldn't rape her.

>>150118545
this show was so bad

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How about the timeline when he was voiced by WAKAMOTO?

>>150118677
I fucking hate Sengoku Basara. Only fujos like it. I thought Zoro voicing Date Masamune with Engrish was funny, and TM Revolution's songs were cool but the rest of the anime was bad.

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>>150118603
SHIIIIIT

Not even best loli

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>>150118487
No idea, I haven't kept up wit the LN either. Though it might be close to ending, the Amazon page's summary for the latest volume said something about battle of Sekigahara, then again the timeline of events is all over the place for the LN.

>>150118184
As an argentinean I think shethe former, because not only she took oportunity of the war for her own career, she stopped any chance for the peace treaty that was being made at the time (wich was about sharing the sovereignty of the islands, something rightful for both parts) and continued that foolish war.
So yes, she was a villain that neither deserve compassion nor empathy

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>>150118840

>>150117173

Hitler was the best waifu.

>>150118883
>that stupid green tanuki will kill MC and his harem
I always knew Ieyasu was worst girl. Has Ishida Mitsunari even appeared, though?

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>>150118968
eh's a pretty cool guy

He's a Cao Cao who won.

>>150118902
>As an argentinean
Opionion disregarded, white gentleman.

>>150116834
He's a historical figure who was active over 400 years ago, so most people don't actually have an opinion of him one way or another. He's the guy you hear about in history class while you're nodding off to sleep, only to see the drama/anime of the year featuring him when you get home, and have your opinions (at that moment) of him being formed there.

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>>150118968
you can say that again

>>150119068
Nobunaga is practically a household name, people form their opinions on him without the help of drama or anime. And kids actually pay attention in class when he and the other warlords show up because the Sengoku era is one of the more exciting parts of Japanese history.

>>150119121
I wish she had more scenes in the game. I would also love a sequel too.

>>150119241
You have my attention.

>>150118666
It had cool SFX, Shio was quite likable, Galiko was cute, and the first few episodes were okay. I also liked how Dogoo's design incorporated doguu and leporids. Everything else was garbage, save for OP and ED.

>>150119000
Alright, think make a bit more sense after reading the description of volume 15. So apparently Mitsuhide's mother was captured and she was forced to betray the Oda clan and then shot Nobuna's brother who was escaping. Meanwhile, Nobuna and the Oda-clan risk complete anhilation after being betrayed by the fucking Tanuki and is now surrounded by both the Takeda-clan and the Tokugawa-clan. In order to help Nobuna, Saru, who's still fighting in Kyushu, challenge Ryuzouji Takanobu to a decisive battle.
As for Volume 16, Saru and Nobuna's brother joined force in order to save Nobuna. Hosokawa Fujitaka join the Eastern Army under the condition that Mitsuhide marry him(?). In order to stop the war, Imagawa Yoshimoto and Date Masamune finally make their moves. Also, a missionary name Gaspal appear at Mitsuhide's side.
Mitsunari appeared already, she's Saru's sister-in-law and is serving Nene. She' s about 13-15 years old. No image of her yet.

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>>150116834
Best representation of Nobunaga in anime.

>>150118238
So does Japan consider Mishima a villain, or a hero?

>>150119649
Fuck. Are the raw novels on Nyaa or Baka-Tsuki? Last I checked they seemed to have been removed.

>>150119716
Nyaa have up to Volume 16th so that should be all of it.

>>150118057
Some people say, the main purpose of Korean campaign was to dispose of some feudals.

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>>150118666

this post was so bad.

>>150118184
People celebrating her death are speaking for themselves

>>150119017
>Cao Cao didn't win

>>150119861
He would have won if he stayed alive.

Cao Cao was based.

SHAMEFUR DISPRAY

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>>150119920
He's best girl too.

>>150120245
I've never seen or played Koihime Musou.
What is Zhang Liao like? He's my favorite Three Kingdoms person.

Hero of course.
He united Japan.
Technically not him, but he paved the way.

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>>150120289
A titty monster who love to drink, also a great warrior and general. Grope Guan Yu from time to time in the original game.

>>150119649
>Mitsunari appeared already, she's Saru's sister-in-law and is serving Nene.
Wait, did Saru married already? With who? I only read till vol 9 or something.

>>150117046
He made a black guy a samurai so there's that

>>150120245
Is that from the new game?

>>150116834
A legend.

>>150120245
Cao Cao truly is the best. Zhuge Liang is great too.

>>150116962
>columbus

Literally indefensible. He was completely retarded, achieved nothing of value, and committed many acts of moral depravity.

Nobunaga, essentially, united the nation and brought about some positive chance, no matter what his critics will say.

Why does every Nobuna thread inevitably bring in Three Kingdoms fans.

>>150119979
Was that Masamune girl even relevant in the novels
?

Could Nobunaga survive the Black Mesa incident?

>>150118354
I was waiting for this

>>150121437
There's a lot of overlap in the fanbase.
You can probably thank Koei for that.

>>150116962
What's there to like on Columbus for his work on America?

Guy didn't even set foot on America

>>150120405
She also have a weird kansai accent.

>>150121437
Nobunaga is seen as a poor man's Cao²

>>150121446
Yes, but not much. Basically Saru tell Masamune that her heterochromia is super cool. And Masamune who is already chuuninbyou with being 666 apocalypse beast and what not goes full ballistic and force conscript all men in Northern Japan by saying that her 'mystic' eye will kill them if they don't join her army to pick a fight with Oda and Takeda and try to destroy Japan. And even send a 'Declaration of War' letter to Papal state. Saru was like wtf that is not what I mean, you are too early for this shit. And tell her to go back to her mom. Some drama happen and Masamune go back to her home town to save her mom.

>>150121336
>committed many acts of moral depravity.
Such as? I don't know anything about new world history.

>>150121792
systematic slavery, slaughter and rape of natives

>De Las Casas writes that when slaves held in captivity began to die at high rates, Columbus switched to a different system of forced labor: he ordered all natives over the age of thirteen to collect a specified amount (one hawk's bell full) of gold powder every three months. Natives who brought the amount were given a copper token to hang around their necks, and those found without tokens had their hands amputated and were left to bleed to death.

I'm not really an expert, but even among european colonizer standards he's a nasty one I would say.

>>150121792
Genocide of natives, babies included. After they revolted for being put in chains and having their hands cut for not bringing enough gold.

https://youtu.be/RQWSwUbnofw

Jump to 11:37

>>150122044
>>150121993
Holy shit. He sound as bad as Cortez.

Neither anime nor manga

Mods, do your jobs

>>150122200
Everything you knew about Columbus is a lie

>>150122392
Isn't he Italian or something too? Always thought he was from Romania.

>>150119650
Hyouge Mono was so good. How far is the manga now?

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>>150116834
Centralizers that win write history about how they're unites.
Centralizers that lose have history written about how they're tyrants.

Although he didn't win per se, Hideyoshi wasn't that far removed from him so history is mostly sympathetic to his cause.

>>150122200
No he was worse. Columbus was ejected from the governorship by the crown.

>>150116834
Villain mostly

burned down one too many temples
but still a respected military genius

>>150119979
Season two fucking when.

>>150121213
>Mary Zhuge
>good in any capacity

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>>150123424
>talking shit about Zhuge

>>150122577
really none of the unifiers were known sympathetically

Nobunaga was tyrannical
Hideyoshi was Machiavellian
and Tokugawa was fat and lazy

only Uesagi Kenshin was shown as the complete "good guy" in all of this and he didn't even win

>>150121993
>having blind faith de las casas' writings
The guy was the original social justice nut. There's no question Columbus a shit as an administrator, but I have trouble taking anything Casas says without a major grain of salt.

>>150122577
>>150123517
then you got the Shinsengumi 2 centuries later which were a bunch of gov-backed murderhobos that lost anyway yet are known as legendary badasses because they were vindicated by fujos

Japan does everything backwards

>>150119650
>Best representation of Nobunaga in anime
I don't know, Drifters Nobunaga is doing some crazy shit.
>>150122440
Yes he is Italian

>>150117749
Best fictional Nobbu; all others go home.

Drifters one is a close runner-up but his show fucking sucks.

How is this thread still not deleted?
Not a single post is about anime or manga. Are the mods dead?

>>150117083
>holocaust
>not a meme
>>>/pol/

>>150116834
They used to consider him a villain due to the whole Edo period being a thing but much like Mitsunari Ishida, people these days are more likely to find him sympathetic and understanding of his motives.

>>150117749
>voiced by Kugyuu
Automatically best Nobunaga.

>>150116834

They consider him a hero turned villain by the evil gaijin forces.

I know this from Sengoku Rance.

Nobunaga was infected by Demon Xavier, who represents the evil West = Nobunaga's usage of Western GUNS in war.

>>150124002
>gaijins are evil
>from a franchise all about a gaijin MC

>>150124194
Rance is still Asian.

>>150124228
no he's German
his theme song is the East German national anthem and everything

Best Nobunaga is Bird Nobunaga.

>>150118902
>wich was about sharing the sovereignty of the islands, something rightful for both parts
The Falklands were never yours, you retarded spic.

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HERO
https://www.google.com/search?q=南蛮胴&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X

>>150116962

The one thing that pisses me about columbus is that there are some idiot who still thinks he discovered America.

>>150124575
Are you not also angry over the fact that people still thinks he set out to prove that the world was round?

>>150118624
I would have helped her up so I could push her down again.

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>>150124295
What's the title again? It was dropped in an olders Drifters thread but I forgot to save it

>>150116834
Nobunaga apologist here. He was a warlord, same as any, but also more open to new ideas than others of the time. He had his own supersitions based on traditional buddhist or shinto norms but he also allowed christian missionaries and valued results and action over heritage.

He was a straightforward guy and he collected a lot of swords

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don't mind me.
just being the best oda.

>>150116962
How are the two even comparable? Colombus created a ring where he would bring 9yrs old sex slaves from America to share with the dudes at Europe, Nobunaga closed the country so nobody would get loli.

>>150126129
>so nobody else would get loli.
FTFY

>>150118184
She is a woman, she isn't capable of doing enough to be either things.

>>150126129
>Nobunaga closed the country so nobody would get loli.
It's Tokugawa who closed the country not Nobunaga. Nobunaga actually want open country where free trade prosper.

>>150124228
>>150124264
No Rance is from a generic western fantasy nation

So, anyone thinking about getting the game SW: Sanada Maru?

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>>150116834
The Japanese love him. Unlike Europeans, the Japanese haven't been guilted into hating their own heroes.

>>150126772
Nobunaga is the antagonist in more than half the shit he is in

also the French love Napoleon (Anglos don't but why should they?)

>>150126815
>also the French love Napoleon
The French left hates him. The EU also wanted to commemorate Waterloo (you know, the defeat of the guy who wanted to unite Europe under liberal values? Kind of like a certain group of people wants to do today?), but nobody bothered commemorating the writing of the Code Civil (the one legal code every country in Europe uses in one way or another? Including the UK (look at Scotland)?).

>Nobunaga is the antagonist in more than half the shit he is in
As are gods, but that doesn't mean the nips are a gigantic bunch of anti-theist fedora tippers.

>>150126904
>literally made Nobunaga the bad guy
>often calls him "the demon king"
>doesn't hate him

you're hatred of anti-bonapartes is blinding you from reason

>>150121213
>Zhuge Liang is great too.
No he wasn't. He was shit.

https://the-archlich.tumblr.com/post/92945620562

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>>150127006
>tumblr
The last time I read a tumblr anime post, it was about how One Punch Man is sexist and homophobic (because of that one frame where Saitama says he isn't into duded).

>>150123517
>Ieyasu was fat and lazy
He was indeed fat but not lazy, more Mike a cunning bastard who managed to steal allies and passare off ad the righteous one when he exploited all of Nobunaga and Hideyoshi's work. Socially speaking he was really conservative and Nobunaga was really progressive for the times.

>>150126985
Nobunaga called himself Demon King of the Sixth Heaven and he was powerful and insane enough to get away with it.

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>>150121213
Zhuge Liang is pretty good, her route in Shin was hilarious too. I still prefer Xun Yu as the strategist though.
>>150125878
Sengoku Choujuu Giga. He's the gayest Nobunaga so far.
>>150126985
To be fair, the Demon King of the Sixth Heaven part was a nickname he adopted himself.

>>150127339
You buying Rance VI in december?

>Americans think that your average Japanese has a negative opinion of Nobunaga because he frequently appears in Japanese cartoons and video games, popular entertainment that appeals to the lowest common denominator, as an antagonist or villain.

In reality, Nobunaga is viewed about in the same light as Julius Caesar or Alexander are in the west. He's seen as a great man (great as in "being the author of great achievements," as opposed to being morally superaltive) who rose to become the face of his age through ambition, ability, and ruthlessness.

>inb4 Alexander was just riding the coattails of his dad

Yes, his dad laid the groundwork for him and its likely that his conquests would either have never happened or been diminished in scope if Alexander had been required to do everything himself. At the same time, he was of an age where he technically would not have been allowed to post on 4chan when he became King, yet managed to navigate the infamously treacherous currents of Macedonian aristocratic politics and conquer the whole of the known world while in his 20s. The best indicator of his abilities, however, is what happened after he died. The fact that none of his successors, all of whom were extremely talented men in their own right, were able to consolidate his holdings or expand on them even slightly, on top of the fact that no one but Alexander was able to get all of them to work together strongly suggests that the ancient chroniclers were right on Alexander being more than just a lucky fool, as so many of these tiresome modern revisionist historians like to claim.

>>150123517
Tokugawa was literally the oppersite, /fit/ enough to go swimming in his moat in his 70s which was basically 100s in modern terms. Playing the waiting game might seem cowardly but he was a major general under team Nobunaga so he wasnt waiting on his ass at least

>>150120245

Wow you just ruined Romance of Three Kingdoms for me now.

>>150127628
More like the Tokugawa were Oda's bithches, then they became Toyotomi's bitches and then they made everyone else into their bitches.

>>150122463
The English translation is coming out regularly but it's not even halfway to catching up. The RAW is already one year away from Furuta's death, if I remember correctly, so it's probably going to end soon.
>>150127471
The Mangagamer translation? Sure, already have the Japanese copy but a remastered version seem nice.

>>150127628
>might be seen cowardly
When the Tokugawa clashed with the Hashiba at Komaki-Nagakute and got stomped Hideyoshi literally took down his pants and showed his monkey ass to Ieyasu since the latter refused to attack.

>>150118902
But, Plabo. The Malvinas never was an Argentinian territory. Go back to bed.

>>150121336

He was a very good seafarer for his time. Aside from the vikings, he was the first European to sail to the North American continent. Up until Columbus, most Europeans sailed along the coast, all the way around the horn of Africa, if they wanted to get to Asia by sea. He was the first to really travel into the open seas.

Colombus only became a really big deal when the US started getting large numbers of Italian immigrants. You had these Italian communities that saw themselves as separate from Americans so the government looked for a historical figure that could tie them into US history. It was an assimilation thing.

>>150121336
>committed many acts of moral depravity
Well, they don't teach that bit in our country. Maybe because the last time he is mentioned is in geography class in elementary school.

>>150127638
You must really hate Sengoku history then.

>>150123517
That's because Meiji was the only one who truly unified the continent.

>>150129169
I mean, America is literally named after an Italian, you'd think that would be the natural route.

>>150118184
A piece of shit.

>>150129976
FINDS A WAY

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Do Austrians consider him a Hero or a Villian?

>>150123517
>Uesagi Kenshin
Isn't he only gemembere as good guy because he was a guy (female)?

>>150124002
>Western GUNS
Aren't guns a Chinese thing?

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>tfw no one watched this

>>150130126
He was well known for being honorable and respecting his enemies.

>>150126772
Of note, Russians have a kind of cake named after Napoleon that presumably dates back to 100th anniversary of victory over him. I wonder if Hitler cake is invented in 2045.

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>>150126185
>Oda was a lolbertarian
Thank goodness he was killed off, otherwise modern Japan would be literally bereft of any roads.

>>150117323
Ugly animation.

>>150116834
The guy shat all over Japanese Tradition which caused him to be hated pretty much everywhere on the continent outside of the Oda clan and those who served under him. Overall 10/10 pretty cool guy.

>>150130230
I watched that. It was pretty good for a cg anime.

>>150130263
Oda is classic libertarian. Not progressive retard who dare call themselves Libertarian while endorsing big government, welfare and banning """"""hate"""""" speech

Chuuni then:
>Demon King of the Sixth Heaven
Chuuni now:
>Dark Flame Mastah
What the fuch happened?

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>>150130230
Good times.

>>150130094
They consider him an evil German, and Austrians are of course not German they're completely different from Germans totally for seriously.

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>>150130288
Y-you too.

>>150130288
>the continent
Are you retarded?

>>150130365
T. Adolf Jozef 'The Hitler' Fritzl.

>>150130315
I'm not sure you can quite call a feudal lord classically liberal.

>>150130391
Traitor pls go.

>>150130094
Neither, he was a painter.

>>150130494
He painted Europe with blood and chaos?

>>150130230
We had weekly threads while it was airing. What a great anime that was, people get used to the CG after a while. A shame about the live action though.

>>150130404
Sorry, it's kind of like a reflex from watching so many Sengoku dramas.
>>150130391
Oh come on, we all know Mitsuhide didn't hate Nobunaga. He just killed Nobunaga in order take Japan for himself and probably would have succeeded too if it weren't for the loyalty of Hideyoshi.

>>150130621
I only remember that the threads were quiet/small scale. What's a shame about the live action?

>>150130622
Nuh-uh, Mitsuhide didn't killed Nobunaga, he was just setup and then betrayed by Hideyoshi with the help of Sen no Rikyu.
>>150130675
I heard that it was pretty bad from the few anons that watched it. Changed a lot of the characters personality or something like.

>>150130348
No major war for them to join in.

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>>150117323
>no season 2

>>150116834
>pedo who had a kid as his personal boy toy
>not a villain
Choose one.

>>150132592
That's the one piece of japanese tradition Nobunaga did follow though.

>>150127339
>Choujuu Giga. He's the gayest Nobunaga so far.

Thanks

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So does Japan consider him a villain, or a hero?

>>150116834
He's considered a tragic hero.

>>150130230
I like the series (the manga at least), but I can't stand the MC. The dude is bordering on autistic in how removed he is from emotion.

>>150127263
most depictions of him is just him sitting on his ass until things fall in his pockets

some say he was a magnificent bastard, others say he was a lazy bastard with IRL plot armor

>>150128650
>>150124384
But they were, until 1833 when the british came and occupied them

>>150135222
He'd be so handsome without that moustache

>>150118184
Hero.

Only retarded northerners or people who are so entrenched in Labour bullshit would think otherwise.

Sure she had to make some fucking harsh decisions but she saved the UK from Economic and Social hell and went on to essentialy pave the way for the end of the Cold War. She protected the lives and soverignty of a set of Islands thousands of miles from her base when any other world leader would have not bothered to intervene. She was living proof that gender does not matter in the fucking slightest.

Anyone who disagrees is either a miner or a dirty communist.

>>150119855
Anyone who did that essentially outed themselves as utterly retarded morons and national embarrassments.

>>150129923
Fuck off Northerner.

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>>150116834
Nobu has removed a ninja Koga clan with premises.
Wtf Nobunaga.

>>150135878
No, you silly spic.

They were contested by the Spanish and the British. When the Spanish gave them up and also made Argentina a thing, it doesnt make them yours by default. The enduring claim was by the British.

And unlike the Spanish, the British had people actually go to live there since claiming them.

>>150118902
>further her own career
All of her advisors and the fucking USA themselves were telling her not to contest the Argie invasion you silly cunt. It had the potential to end her career far more than it did to enhance it. She did it out of a sense of patriotic duty and because as soon as you show weaknessin one area its a slippery slope downwards for everything else.

And it was never Argentinian territory so there was no soveringty to share.

If anything you should be thanking her. Because of her, your Military Junta rulers got their shit handed to them and your country was given a change to become democratic and actually worth giving a fuck about. If you are genuinely aggreived about 1982 then all you are is a fucking retarded nationalist who bought into Kirchner's propaganda which was used to distract you from the actual colossal political and economic problems that exist in your country

>>150136211
She shouldn't have let Hong Kong get annexed by PRC.

>>150126904
>As are gods, but that doesn't mean the nips are a gigantic bunch of anti-theist fedora tippers.
Fedora tippng only make sense as a term for monotheists. For polytheists like the Japanese, they can both believe in existence of god AND fight them at the same time. Monotheists are the crazy ones.

>>150121336
Columbus didn't do anything worse than what every other explorer was doing at the time

Oda is just a meme in a bunch of doramas

>>150136257
Possibly, but that was quite a good deal at the time.

Shame about what it has turned into

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>>150136211
>this savage Argentinian slapdown

Argies. Not even once.

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>>150117323
>I prefer the timeline when he was a she.
same same

>>150136211
>All of her advisors and the fucking USA themselves were telling her not to contest the Argie invasion
And then helped her when she went to repel it. I agree that the war was stupid and Argentina is better off for having lost it, but having resources so near by being used by another country so far away will always be a sour point. People will be mad 100 years into the future about it when they have to pay debts.

>>150135222
After reviewing the things he did for the poor and the working class, I see him as a hero.

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>>150116834
They think what he did was inevitable

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>>150118054
BEST
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>>150136720
>but having resources so near by being used by another country so far away will always be a sour point.
Shit like this happens all over the fucking world. Argentina is huge as far as landmass goes. They need to not be fucking babies about shit which nearly every other country has to put up with on a daily basis.

>>150136720
The US did not help the UK in its Falklands Campaign, retard.

>>150136062
Nice meme

>>150136912
>The US did not help the UK in its Falklands Campaign
"However, when Argentina refused the U.S. peace overtures, U.S. Secretary of State Alexander Haig announced that the United States would prohibit arms sales to Argentina and provide material support for British operations. Both Houses of the U.S. Congress passed resolutions supporting the U.S. action siding with the United Kingdom.[31]

The U.S. provided the United Kingdom with military equipment ranging from submarine detectors to the latest missiles.[32][33][34][35] President Ronald Reagan approved the Royal Navy's request to borrow the Sea Harrier-capable amphibious assault ship USS Iwo Jima (LPH-2) if the British lost an aircraft carrier. The United States Navy developed a plan to help the British man the ship with American military contractors, likely retired sailors with knowledge of Iwo Jima's systems."
inb4 not-men-doesn't-count

>>150137074
>Fuck, I just got BTFO
>What will I do to save my Argie national pride!!!?
>I know!
>"N-nice meme...!"
>That'll show them!
>I'm white, btw

>>150137074
Pick up a history book, nigga

>>150118902
>as an argentianian
Into the trash it goes

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>Asian history
Change the record.

>>150137156
If you're going to copypaste from Wikipedia, at least remove the citation numbers

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>>150137255
What the shit is that?

>>150136767
That fucking Nobu. Himiko was best girl.

>>150137446
I think it's a mark people make to see how often their own picture gets reposted.

>>150137446
Bear (tripfag) probably put it on there

>>150138603
I bet this was written by a male.

>>150116834
good copyright-free material.

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>>150118184
She made a lot of hard decisions but ultimately her and Reagan's handiwork have left us in the current state we're in now. Queen Neoliberal shill. On the other hand if John Major was in charge 1982 he would have rolled over in the Falklands and apologised to the Argentinians for having to work up a sweat massacring the population. I'm cynical at best.

Tories and Labour stopped representing the true divisions in this country 30 years ago. In the EU referendum you could see the ghosts of the children they throttled in their cribs. The truth is we don't have a real right wing or left wing party in Britain, we have the Blairite consensus. I think Jeremy Corbyn is a Trotskyist loon, but I genuinely hope he successfully remakes Labour and destroys the Blairites.

>>150138977
>responding to an obvious bait copypasta by an obvious shitposter
>not just reporting and ignoring it
For what purpose?

>>150139331
>Thatcher
>Neo-liberal
What the fuck am I reading?

>>150120245
So I wonder what's happening with Kakumei, is that postponed? Converted into another DMM mobile game?

>>150130365
What people don't realize is even in his time Hitler wasn't well liked by many Germans. Especially in the Military where most of the many assassination attempts on him originated.

>>150117414
So who was that guy?

>>150139766
"Neo-liberal" does not refer to social positions, but rather to economic ones, and IIRC it was coined by socialists.
The short version is that neo-liberal refers to the belief that the free market is a reliable arbiter and the source of solutions to society's problems. Both major parties within the US, and most current politicians in the UK would fall under the label of neo-liberal despite their position within their own countries' political spectra. The austerity program sweeping the EU could also be described as a neo-liberal program.

>>150140292
Ok, but in her time it wasnt like it was an established mode of thought. For her it was a way for getting the UK back on its feet. Its all the other cunts who came after who didnt change the formula who fucked up.

>>150140390
It was an experiment that gave us the Great Recession and has kissed life back into Marxism and fascism.

>>150140720
It fitted the time and age perfectly. Nobody around at that time can be blamed for what it became.

>>150137265
Citation numbers show how childishly easy the information was to obtain

>>150140774
The average person laughed at the idea of "trickle down" the same they do now. It only "worked" because it had competition in the form of the soviet union. Mass de-industrialisation has wrought utter devastation and mass immigration has forever destroyed the social fabric and stability of the west. Neoliberals and Neoconservatives have set us up for a century of civil wars while our enemies close in around us.

>>150116834
There are cameras back in the 1500s? how the fuck they get that picture?

>>150125955
I'd like Drifters Nobunaga more if he didn't talk so damn much. Pretty much all of his lines are about why he's an evil genius or why Toyohisa's really awesome.

>>150144465
Serene divine catholic church technology

>>150130094
The ukrainians and croats consider him a hero.

>>150136062
Wrong. There were argentinians living there up until 1833 when the british expelled them. I know how the world works, I would say nothing if we had lost them after a normal war, but the thing is that the british simply came and took the islands out of nowhere.

>>150136767
I unironically liked this show

>that mustache
he's obviously the "chaotic good" type of hero, the guy that doesn't directly support the main hero and is misunderstood at times, but the hero couldn't have gotten far without him

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>>150120670
>He made a black guy a samurai so there's that

Wait, are you saying there was an actual Afro Samurai?

>>150147481
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasuke

>>150147641
I wonder what those japs felt when seeing a black person for the first time.

>>150148180
>Black people were not in fact discriminated against in Japan at this time, in fact they were even admired, for the Buddha was often portrayed in black in Japanese temples

>>150147641
>Suspecting the black color of his skin to be black ink, Nobunaga had him strip from the waist up and made him scrub his skin

Nobunaga pls

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Otoya Yamaguchi: hero or villain?

>>150148180
Nobunaga assumed his skin was ink and had him scrub himself thoroughly to prove it was not. Then, amazed that his skin really was that colour, snatched him up into his service because apparently he was pretty strong and tall.

>>150148596
He was a real hero and he was a true patriot.

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>>150148596

Commies aren't human beings, thus he did nothing wrong.

>>150148895
Inb4 /pol/ get.

>>150148596

He literally saved Japan.

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>>150117323
>that entire shot

Nobunaga was reported to have been killed by a "stray" arrow fired from a discontent vassal

PICKED UP?!

>>150116834
He was a mastermind strategist who deserved to be shogun instead of the Tokugawa jew pulling the strings.

>>150149084
Nobunaga was probably going to whack the shogun and the whole court if they didn't declare him supreme ruler of Japan but got killed before. They were just tools for him but if he's the strongest and they've outlived their usefulness just get rid of them all.

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>>150148956

I'm not even a /pol/tard. Communism is just a retard ideology dreamed up by a salty neet who leeched off of others who were more successful in life. It makes fucking zero sense on an economic, social, or psychological level.

Shits wank senpai.

>>150119979
I need to replay Sengoku Rance

>>150149175
You say that like it's a bad thing. If the world had more people like him we'd all be exploring the galaxy in spaceships by now.

>>150135946
>Only retarded northerners or people who are so entrenched in Labour bullshit would think otherwise.

Yeah who doesn't like people who literally caused 30 years of wage stagnation (in real terms) and reformed the structure to protect creditors over real people.

>>150118184
As an Irishman I consider her worthy of having my piss spilled on her grave. Hopefully they make an anime of the IRA fighting the British.

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>/eagg/ is still dead

>>150149532
>Next DW game is a Zhou Yu wankfest

>>150148956
>muh /pol/
Commies killed over 300 millions people.

>>150130263
Where's this?

>>150149648
>Estonia

Nevermind.

>>150148367
WE

>>150130263
>>150130315

You are confusing Clasic liberal with libertarian.

>>150116899
Right now Hitler is more a pop culture cartoon representing evil rather than a historical figure.

More people remember him from the Simpsons, South Park, American dad, family guy gags than for the actual ww2. In fact, I dare to say more people have fond memories of him than people having bad ones.

>>150149611
I think you mean 300 GORILLION

>>150149717
WUZ

>>150150051
BUDDAZ

>>150149532
Why are there no modern ROTTK anime shows being made?

>>150139880
I've no idea, sorry. The Kakumei site is region lock so I can't see what's going on. Though I'm pretty sure some of the characters for Kakumei appears in Eiyuutan.
>>150151859
Isn't Soul Buster based on RoTTK?

>>150117323
>no season 2
But it sold so well

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Not /a/ but the first time i heard of him was in samurai warrior.

He was painted as a dangerous man, yet a great leader.

>>150116834
why would you ask a bunch of weebs how "Japan feels" about something