Just finished watching pic related. I really liked it but I know

>>150082977
It was ok with your usual Okada pretentiousness.

Mediocre story and characters, great animation and visual direction.

Overall, watch it to catch luluco in the mall at the end.

The script was terrible, but literally everything else was good to great. A very promising directorial debut for Kobayashi, I just hope he doesn't get stuck with Okada next time.

>>150083044
aw man, I really liked the characters. They were trope-y for sure but their interactions made me give a shit about what was going on in the story.

It felt too short though I dont know if I could stomach another 12-13 episodes of screaming at each other and okada stuff.

>>150082977
>Thoughts on Kiznaiver, /a/?
Proof that Trigger is good studio after all and capable of greatness and eventually reaching the Elite Tea Club to join conversations drinking tea and reading newspapers along KyoAni, PA Works, Godakobo and Kinema Citrus

What happens if they have sex.

>>150082977
I liked it a lot despite the bad writing. The moral of the story was basically it's okay to be autistic but keep it to yourself.

Peaked about two episodes early, and then fumbled the ending after all the drama had already been unloaded. But overall an entertaining show.

Shame about Boom Boom Satellites, though.

>>150083491
and on the other hand, you should probably tell people that you're autistic instead of being a drugged up idol child.

Speaking of, I liked how they all treated her like a little Idol because they really feel sorry for what they did for her.

awful. a 'feels' show for the sake of 'feels.' Like this bitch said I love you when she was a kid and that's reason enough to fuck shit up. the pairings at the end were just typical Okada shit. It's like she's afraid of leaving characters without some sort of codependent relationship developed through child/teen trauma

>>150082977
I loved it, first series I picked up after not having watched any Anime since like 2008
>>150083226
I agree to an extent. I think it's not that its was too short, the ending felt too sudden. Everything else was paced well enough, they just needed like maybe 2-3 more episodes.

>>150082977
Visuals and visual direction were superb. The episode where Maki gets forcefully revealed as a member that frenchy-sounding manga duo, especially. The ending had great visuals, as well.

Someday it will only be remembered for killing Boom Boom Satellites.

OP is proof that a studio can literally pump out a script that's basically one gigantic infodump and people will be guaranteed to eat it up with a spoon

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>>150082977
It was shit and Luluco was better.

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>>150082977
It was good.
Nori is best girl

Complete melodramatic garbage like everything else Okada writes. Being pretty doesn't save the show from being shit aimed at stupid teenagers.

I still can't understand how she writes dialog that overt and tactless and everyone else involved with the project just says "Yeah sure, print that shit."

>>150090146
A reminder that Okada wanted to write something action-y but the staff told her to make it a drama
Still a gorgeous show

>>150090189
Source on that? Literally everything she writes is shitty melodrama. Hell, even IBO which is supposed to be a show about politics, war and mech fights with some character drama is primarily homolust and bad melodrama. Even more than the other Gundam series'.

>>150090314
http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-957183/special-pash-kiznaiver-articles
>—How much of the project was finalized by the time you joined the staff?
>The characters, and the general concept of the story before it became a series synopsis, I think. The biggest change to the story after I joined the staff was to turn it from a battle-heavy work into one that depicts what’s in the characters’ hearts, the sort of thing Okada-san specializes in. Even though there are already eight main characters to flesh out, I knew that adding a lot of battle elements would make Okada-san want to flesh out the inner hearts of the enemies, too! And if that happened, it would exceed the scope of a TV show, so I suggested that it might be better to keep the focus on those eight main characters instead. I remember the staff very easily agreed to that. I’ve been involved with a few battle-centered series before, but truthfully, action is not my strong suit. I have an easier time depicting the time leading up to a character’s final resting place than depicting battle scenes. I consider it ideal to get battle scenes taken care of in one cut and be done with it.

Also IBO is better than other TV Gundams we've been getting in the last years

>>150090398
They think she's good at writing character motivations and interactions? Are they retarded?

>Also IBO is better than other TV Gundams we've been getting in the last years
No, it has no redeeming features outside of Guts jr. cutting things with his heavy duty scissors. The series is complete shit.

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>>150090398
>Also IBO is better than other TV Gundams we've been getting in the last years
Fuck off.

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>>150090440
Seems like you have a severe case of shit taste, Grecofag
>They think she's good at writing character motivations and interactions? Are they retarded?
Are you implying Okada isn't specialised on Drama?
And with pic related it actually worked

>>150090472
Oh fuck off back to /m/

Dropped at 3, it's shit

Trigger's worst original. They should've never bothered with Okada.

>>150082977
>it but I know people's opinions on it are all over the map.
>Thoughts on Kiznaiver, /a/?
You already know what kind of replies you will get

I liked it, some others didnt

>>150084513

Not the OP, but that was probably my favorite episode.

>>150090477
>Grecofag
Nice projecting, retard.

>Are you implying Okada isn't specialised on Drama?
No, I'm explicitly stating it. Given that you were too stupid to pick up on that, I can see why you like her writing.

Seriously, how fucking stupid do you have to be to need the characters to scream and cry every time the show wants you to know they're said, and how slow do you have to be to need everything spelled out and bashed over your head through expository dialog because the writing is clearly aimed at people so stupid they can't glean anything from the show without it explicitly stating it?

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>>150090491
Fuck off back to MAL.

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I hated this with every fibre of my body. I wish I didn't watch it till the end. I don't even have the words to describe on how many levels it was shit.

>>150090970
>love Katsuhira forever
>literally can't stop thinking about Tengu a week after he gets together with Nori-chan

Piss poor taste.

Wasn't bad. It looked really nice too.

>>150090970
>hated this with every fibre of my body
>watched it till the end

What the fuck is wrong with you? If you didn't like it, why the fuck did you not only watch more of it, but ALL OF IT?

How shitty is your life when you watch shit you hate just to complain on a Korean image board about how much you hate the thing that you willingly watched the entirety of?

>>150082977
Amazing direction and soundtrack, interesting premise and the shittiest execution possible.

>>150091095
>Amazing direction and soundtrack, interesting premise
The direction was decent, a few angled shots and pans of detailed faces don't make it amazing. And a premise can only be as good as its execution. Any premise can sound interesting bare bones or be done well with a good writer.

>>150091262
I'm not praising it you know.

>>150091086
>How shitty is your life when you watch shit you hate just to complain
Wew lad

>>150091312
You described the directing as amazing, that's certainly praise.

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>>150090314
>primarily homolust and bad melodrama
>Even more than the other Gundam series
No way. That can't be.

It was seriously garbage.

None of the characters had the emotional depth required to drive the premise of "people feel each other's pain". It also kind of went in a stupid direction plotwise.

>>150091421
I guess trying to be brief didnt convey what i feel about it correctly.
Direction and soundtrack can only carry a series up to a certain point. I said the premise was good but that wasnt a praise, the execution being horrible drags down the few good things it has.
I found the direction and soundtrack to be good but in the end it's bad.

>>150091606
tl;dr: I found it good, but it's bad.

>>150091606
I get what you're saying, I just didn't think the direction was all that special, even without taking into account the horrible writing.

>>150091630
I'm pretty sure it was more like
>It looked kind of pretty but the contents were utter garbage.

Garbaggio

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>Lead singer of boom boom satellites died not too long after releasing lay your hands on me
>that was their last single
>I didn't know about this until now

I-I think I'm gonna need to sit down for this.... What the fuck Kizunaiver, you killed one of my most favourite bands in recent memory goddamn

>>150092586
You didn't know that he had cancer for a long time?

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>>150089888
I agree.
Watching worst girl the redhead get NTRd every week was fun.

>>150090146
>Being pretty doesn't save the show from being shit aimed at stupid teenagers.
>aimed at stupid teenagers
>anime
top bait

>>150082977

Likeable and interesting characters, kind of meh, story, not in a bad way specifically, just that Triggers usual style of being overtly blunt with their emotional message didn't really work to their advantage here.

Though I'd say it's certainly worth a 'pass' considering the fantastic character designs and visual direction, the show was damn gorgeous.

>>150093459
>All anime is for kids
>>>/v/

It's my AOTY.

>>150094090
>mature anime
>newfag without minimum
My sides

>>150094192
>Anime is a genre and not a medium
>Shows that air at 3am and depend on sales of incredibly expensive merchandise and BDs are aimed at children
I get it anon, you're a retard and a cross boarder. I know shitty Trigger show threads are filled with you rats, but there's no need to scream so loud about it.

Worthless, the writing was painfully stupid and I found the art and storyboards and so on uninspired.

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>>150094239
>y-you're crossboarder!
Watch 700 titles first before talking with me, newfag. "Mature anime" lmao.

>>150094391
Try 1.5k titles you weak faggot. You have no taste and no friends

>>150094524
>600 titles is big number
>y-you have no friends!
Modern /a/ is really hideous place

>>150094603
Mostly because you're still here

>>150082977
Never going to get an actual discussion about it on /a/ because Okada and Trigger.

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>>150094661
You don't discuss hobbies with others IRL, autist.

>>150094768
>hobby
Confirmed casualfag.

>>150093216
It was his 4th relapse. It was some fucked up situation.

>>150094090
>implying anime is not for manchildren
>>>/reddit/

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>>150094391
>All anime is for kids
>Calling someone a newfag when they called you out for being an offboard retard
>lmao
>Thinking a 700 series powerlevel is impressive
>Posting anime Yuuko instead of manga
Jesus christ, you just clocked in at biggest faggot of the day.

>>150095045
>Anime is a genre
>>>/sudoku/

>>150095292
>Calling someone a newfag when they called you out for being an offboard retard
>>>/v/

>>150095486
Yes, you're use of offboard vernacular and shitposting tactics make it clear you're not from here.

>>150095512
>shitposting tactics
>everyone who disagree is from /v/ !
You don't belong here.

>>150095580
Yes, pretending all anime is the same genre aimed at the same people, saying "lmao" and trying to call other people newfags when you're out of ammo are all pretty by the books /v/ style shitposting.

>>150095626
Yes, amigo. Most anime aimed at stupid teenagers except some movies. Even Aoi Bungaku aimed at teens. Can you prove me otherwise?

>>150094684
This

I remember every episode thread was about Okada shitposting

The shitposting continued to the end

>>150095798
>Can you prove me otherwise?
Most of this shit airs at odd hours in the morning, costs more money than teens have, and if you go to any specialty shop or manga shop or event, it's mostly late 20-early 30 year olds.

Why do you think it's all aimed at teens? Remember, "Because I say so" isn't a reason, it's an admission that you're an ignorant idiot.

>>150095865
Or it could just be that because Okada is such a bad writer, most people don't like her, as is evidence by any thread about a show she writes for.

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>>150095936
Well, your entry argument builded aroud "hours of airing" and "money". "16yo boy-meets-girl" aring at 3am and "16 yo boy-meets-girl" airing at 8 am is still "16 yo boy-meets-girl". This is mature anime for you?
>if you go to any specialty shop or manga shop or event, it's mostly late 20-early 30 year olds.
And I can buy Lego right now or some mario games. That's doesn't mean I am their target audience

>>150096425
>Well, your entry argument builded aroud "hours of airing" and "money".
Marketing, yes. It's very clear who it's aimed at based on marketing. Open a book sometime.

>"16yo boy-meets-girl" aring at 3am and "16 yo boy-meets-girl" airing at 8 am is still "16 yo boy-meets-girl".
See you keep using the word "mature" as some kind of straw man like you expect me to leap on your bait so you can refute what you think I'm going to say, but I haven't said it. Do you really not realize that you have a point or do you really think everyone is as simple minded as you are?

>That's doesn't mean I am their target audience
My stupid little ESLfag friend, if everyone who buys your product is of a certain age, and the creators are also of that age, and the airing times and pricing and community mostly consist of people from that age group, then guess who the target audience is?

Remember what I said, you saying "It's aimed at teenagers because I said so" is quite literally not a point. No I want you to rub both of your brain cells together and try again; why is it all aimed at teenagers? Featuring teenagers is not a reason either, because by that logic the target audience of Gundam series are 16 year old boys and not 30 year olds with a hardon for robots, and fujos.

>>150096760
>then guess who the target audience is?
Pokemon/MLP/Precure target audience is 30 year old neckbeards, right? Sure thing, kid.
>why is it all aimed at teenagers?
Does it really hard for you do understand? Take a look at "16yo boy-meets-girl" part. Plots, dialogues, clishes and even art sometimes - everyting screams it's for teens. Calling Kiznaiver as shit because it's "aimed at stupid teenagers" is rediculous when anime filled with chuunitrash and brainless sol. Unless you considering chuuni as not teen thing

>>150097418
>Broad sweeping statements about demographs
Uh-oh, that wasn't an answer.

>Does it really hard for you do understand?
Your broken English or your flawed logic? Neither make sense.

>everyting screams it's for teens
So you took a phrase that is a basic plot premise, and from those few words extrapolated the entire plot, dialog, cliches and artstyle? Ok.

>Calling Kiznaiver as shit because it's "aimed at stupid teenagers" is rediculous when anime filled with chuunitrash and brainless sol
Ah I get it now, you're a shit eating retard who actually thinks Okada holds a modicum of talent as a writer, and you're desperate to defend your shit taste by bringing all anime down to your level. That makes sense.

>Unless you considering chuuni as not teen thing
I don't think you know what chuuni means.

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>>150097556
Pfft you put more efforts in previous posts. Too weak

>>150097844
>Still can't provide an actual point outside of "I'm a narrow minded and ignorant fool."
Tell you what anon, you find me some statement from anime producers saying the audience being targeted is kids. Until then I'll be waiting here.

>>150097892
Nah, you're already slipped from your "Demagogue Guidebook" into insulting pit. I retired as winner

>>150098176
>I retired as winner
>I'm right because I said so
Actually you failed to show any evidence supporting your claim or refuting my own about marketing trends and airing times, because you're demonstrably retarded and don't understand anything about selling or product or anime in general.

Enjoy being subhuman. And don't forget, getting mad that the other guy called you an idiot doesn't make you right, either.

>>150098176
>I retired
I know English isn't your thing so I'll help out. What you meant to write was "I'm retarded."

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>>150098308
Why you so rude? Does protecting your point in internet really worth to hurt other people feelings?

>>150082977
I loved it.
Im /v/ tho.

>>150082977
Really didn't get it, I liked the trope idea at first; the boring MC, the tough guy, fuccboi, childhood best friend, cute girl, megane, it was all fine then it went nowhere and you're left with a bunch of characters that kind of represent old Trigger/Gainax characters but are really just shells of them

>>150082977
The art, music, and direction were superb. I wish every character got focus episodes like Maki.
What was most disappointing was the ending. While I realize Okazaki was asked to keep the over-the-top action to a minimum, I thought Trigger would show something a bit more remarkable in the end than what we saw. Personally I thought the kiznaivers would all join minds, become a singular superbeing and remove pain from the entire world, or something.

>>150082977
It's shit. No matter what effort the production staff put into it, it's all meaningless when the script and storytelling are trash.

>>150082977
it was meh at first, then got decent once they let okada do what she does best, then wiped out with a shit ending.

overall, slightly below mediocre unless you you specifically value visuals, then it's slightly above mediocre.

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It's a failure, plain and simple.

Trigger is quickly becoming a Shaft-like studio, overstylized trash with no real substance and reused plots. Okada wrote a movie called Anthem of the Heart this very year who was about the same thing that Kiznaiver and much better.

The only good thing about this is that the show tanked in Japan despite the usual aggressive Aniplex shilling and advertising (pic related). Japan may have shit taste but when a genuine shit pops out they still have the sense to avoid it.

>>150100640
>Okada wrote a movie called Anthem of the Heart this very year who was about the same thing that Kiznaiver and much better.

Of course it was, all Okada originals are about the same thing. That's why "Okada" is a household name here in the first place.

I do agree that Anthem of the Heart is the best version of The Okada Script so far though.

So fucking god awful

The message of the story is "WOW PEOPLE CAN HAVE EMPATHY FOR EACH OTHER WITHOUT BEING CONNECTED THROUGH SCAR HACKS" and presents this as if it's some big revelation.

Absolute fucking garbage. No amount of nice visuals can redeem such shitty writing.

>>150084513
Agreed, I also think that the scene of MC meeting again his childhood friends was great