Dragon Ball Super

Wait Future Trunks' hair is blue now?

When is the second DBS OST coming out?

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Don't worry Gohan. I will take care of Videl.

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>>150077160
You know.

I don't know why the writers just make up a new future timeline for trunks instead of using the android saga trunks.

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>Was so weak Gohan had to knock him out so he couldn't drag him down
>Failed to destroy Frieza
>Got BTFO by Cell 1st form in the main timeline
>Got BTFO by Perfect Cell with just one energy beam
>Goes back in time, but this makes Gohan a cuck
>Failed to protect the future from the biggest /r9k/pol/ autist
>Yajirobe and Dr. Briefs' Kitten are dead and all is his fault

why are all saiyans such shitters, and I like Trunks.

>>150077416
He did beat friezia though. That's like saying cell didn't kill him just because he eventually got revived.

>>150077160
Hi anon, you're goin' too far.

>>150077160
Chi-Chi is so damn cute.

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so would you guys think it would be okay if they "canonized" gt though this multiverse tourney?
or should they just make up more alien gods to fight?

the next arc was supposed to be announced in december, right?
So. The stuff with Hit is most likely not that

>>150077698
Yes it will be announced around December 18th

>>150077546
My nigga.

I'm reading Jiji's AF right now. LOL at all the blatant tracing. This is not good at all. Even Toyo isn't this blatant. Dude traces multiple pages in a row.

>Future Trunks will never meet his imouto

>>150077872
Entire fights are just traced from other fights. Toyo>>>>him

>>150077928
The one thing I really would change about this arc, more than anything else

>>150077599

Both.
At the same time.

Akira toryiama version of GT. And let goku see uub the first time before the tournament.

>>150077928
What if they retcon her into being his daughter?

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Best couple in db

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>>150078341
Fuck off.

>>150078009
You might be on to something.
Like don't have it actually be GT, but have it be a good mimic of it and its more memorable characters.

Strongest fighter is an ape man, who looks like Sun Wukong. Another is the reincarnation of a powerful evil that has become a force for good. One more is the strongest fighter's grandkid, working to make grandpa proud. And another is the Sun Wunkong lookalike's eternal rival who is always just one step behind them. The last one is a cool, stoic dragon dude or chick that was once one of the heroes' foes but joined their side because of their sense of honor.

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>>150077160

>>150076362
Yeah, but Raditz was member of the squad of Nappa (aka the strongest Saiyan General) while Tarble was exiled because of his weakness.

>>150078499
i like it, i just want the ssj4 design to be in tact because i love it

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bra when

>>150078675
never

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Don't worry I'll take care of Warp Zamasu

>>150078675
>>150078883

Bra literally the most useless character in Z.

Fan theory: She is yamcha bastard daughter.

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>>150078593
what nice hi

>>150078922
>goku has never kissed this minx on the lips

BRAH WHEN??

braly when

>>150079089
Its 780 now in Dragon Ball Super, the year Bra is born so Bulma is prob pregnant now. If were getting 2 months of filler, they might do Bra's birth in this time.

>goku doesnt use kaioken x10 against zamasu because because
>trunks is stronger than vegito
i doubt this is tori writing this anymore
db will never be great again

>>150079447
Yeah, the way Trunks just constantly showed up SSJB and FUSED fucking Zamasu without even trying was ridiculous. Someone needs punished for that. You need to keep your power levels in your media consistent or your entire narrative just becomes "NO! BUT I HAVE A SHIELD!"

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>>150078965
She even started wearing lipstick to draw attention to them.
Kiss her Goku. Before she goes to kiss other people.

>>150079447
>trunks is stronger than vegito

Literally nothing like that was shown or stated.

>But spirit sword

Right after Vegito fucked him up.

Keep in mind that I'm saying this as a Trunksfag.

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reminder

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>>150077160

posting cute Chichis is a good meme

>>150079588
she's too pure and loyal for that. Goku really doesn't deserve her.

What if Chi-Chi doesn't want to be kissed? Think about, she clearly takes the lead on sex for children so if she wanted a kiss from Goku she would be able to get it.

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>>150077160
>S-son-kun

T_T

>>150079800
She was all over him at the budokai.

Im not buying the whole Goku never even fucking kissed ChiChi before, it doesnt make any sense other than lets make Goku look like a retard again.

Question. Did Toyble/Toyotaro ever made the last chapter of his AF Doujin?
I wanted to check out his old work and the battle between Xicor and Goku but I only found a few sketches of SSJ5 Goku.

>>150079964
ZAMASU.

>>150079958
They have to appeal to the 5 year olds who watch/read Super who think Girl are Ikky.

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>>150079964
Zamasu...

I'm tired as fuck with all these near-immortal/actual immortal/self recovering assholes. I really want shit like old school Vegeta who took the damage and if effected him throughout the battle making him so much weaker that Gohan could fight with him and not get decimated. You actually felt Vegeta and Goku getting weaker throughout the fight instead of just a "You're power level is dropping fast" without being shown any reason to believe that since they are still fighting at their near 100% power and speed anyways.

>>150078965
That doesnt mean she has never kissed him.

Only goku has never kissed her.

>>150077928
They're cousins at best.

>>150080021
>"You're power level is dropping fast" without being shown any reason to believe that

This is a really big problem. The Vegetto vs Zamasu fight suffered from this so much.

Super's fight choreography is rarely ever solid, though. Even when the animation looks all right. I doubt we'll see that change any time soon.

Can someone explain to me how destroying Zamasu in the present didn't get rid of Zamasu in the future, but whis travelling forward in time to a slightly LESS distant future gets rid of Zamasu in the further distant future?

>>150077599
Why not both? More gods and deities to meet, and a possible expansion of GT beyond what happened after Goku left earth, but taking place before the timeskip.

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>>150078009
i agree with this.
Not necessarily canonize Toei's GT but follow the Super timeline into the same age

>>150080202
The explanation is that Beerus wiping Zamasu out in one timeline allowed for Zamasu to get away with killing Gowasu in another divergent timeline. Yeah, I know.

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Why didn't Goku and friends just aks Gowasu to zip back to master Roshi and get the mafuba seal from him?

>>150080292
the fighters in the db universe are kinda derp

>>150080292
Goku is a fucking idiot. And it would not surprise me if Goku really wanted the mafuuba to fail. Just look how happy he is last episode when he completely ruined Trunk's life.

>>150080378
i mean pretty much everyone

>>150080292
That'd make too much sense.

>>150078610
We don't know how old tarble was when exiled.
Maybe, like goku, he was just weak as a child.

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>>150077199

>>150080292

>Gowasu was the answer all along

Trunks bet on the wrong Go

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ZAMASU

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>>150080292
Only the Bulma and Kirin are the only ones to have logic.

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>Missed opportunity to make Future Trunks a permanent addition to the DBZ cast

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>>150080614
>The rest of the Z cast: lol wtf? fuck that let's fight them! what could possibility go wrong!?

>>150080614

Well, I hope it was worth it because they literally wiped away a multiverse's worth of immortal souls. Way to go, guys.

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>>150080672
Poor Trunks only if he were stronger he could've gotten things down Frieza style with no signs of mercy.
I mean fucking Vegeta why not fucking train Trunks in the time chamber and train him in the ways of the god to fully unlock ssjb?

>>150080292
They didn't do it intentionally. My personal head cannon is that Saiyan DNA got the better of Goku and Vegeta and they just wanted to fight without thinking

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>>150080732
>down
done*
fuck.

>>150080760
Saiyans are fucking autistic about fighting, no wonder everyone wanted the entire race dead

>>150080732

It's not like being stronger would have helped them.

>>150079964
Zamasu...

>>150079964
Zamazu...

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>>150080792
Pretty much this.
>>150080811
It would've helped a tone actually. Trunks could've finish off Black before he can adapt with Full SSJB.

>>150077290
It's tradition in saiyan culture for the leader of the household to have access to their kids spouses.

Big reason why male/female saiyan fertility drops to basically zero after around 15 years after the last kid. Also the only reason the traditional Saiyan family is even a thing too and the low as fuck divorce rates.

>>150080927

The end result is the same, Zamasu is immortal. He can only be sealed away.

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>>150078341

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Why didn't Arale come out of hiding to oneshot Vegeta/Nappa, Cell, and Buu? Now that she's confirmed still on earth she could've easily done it. Dr. Slump was a good man and I have to imagine he'd want to save the innocent citizens of earth....

>>150081055
Isn't she Saiyan saga Vegeta tier at best?

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>>150081131
She's gag-tier.

>>150081007
If only Piccolo taught mafuba to F Trunks. He wouldn't forgotten he fucking sealing scroll paper. I mean honestly Goku forgetting things up the ass in the anime. of super is bugging the shit out of me.

>>150081131
She was strong enough to shatter the earth straight down to the core in one punch. She's final form Frieza level at least.

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>>150081188

>>150081131
>>150081180
toon force tier

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>>150079833
>she even got erased in the afterlife
just..

>>150081245
Zeno killed her far worse than the androids or Black ever could. Trunks should have been pissed as fuck as Goku.

>>150081210
lol i think Toro did here did a little "fuck you to toei" here.

>>150078593
>they have never kissed

>>150081333
dammmn those triple of triple digits there
nice job anon

>>150081210
what chapter/page is this from?

broly soon

>>150081381
here is full translated chapter
http://yonkouprod.com/dragon-ball-super-chapter-18/

>>150081272

If the Mafuba thing turns out to be in the manga too, then Toyotaro shouldn't be throwing stones in glass houses because that was so much worse..

>>150078897
business in the front, party in the back.

>>150081402
ah thanks i thought it was from the new one, i skimmed over it and didn't see it was when they're departing.
thanks

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Goku a shit

>>150081267

>Summons Zeno
>"Forgets" the Mafuba seal

It's almost like Goku wanted this to happen.

>>150081541
The worse thing is is that no one ever calls Goku on his bullshit.

Fuck Goku.

>>150080292
Yes, the arc is full of plotholes as is most time travel shit. Fuck off already, Frodo.

>>150081206
It's also worth mentioning she's barely going full tilt. She's playing when she did that. Imagine if she ever got serious.

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>>150081580

This isn't a time-travel thing, though.

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>>150081516

>>150080444
>Top Right
That Bulma looks like a combination between an old dyke and Hillary clinton.

>>150081767

No one likes EoZ Bulma.Toriyama needed a haircut to ruin since he fixed Chi-Chi's granny-bun in the epilogue.

>>150080444
Trunks is so hot with his ponytail.

>>150081638
Japan being prudish as usual, Rioleo.

I'm still bummed over the end of the last arc. Soured me on Super. I can accept a lot of dumb crap but that potara retcon and spirit bomb sword was a bit much. Everything's been downhill since the Battle of the Gods movie. Hard to get hyped for the new arc.

>>150081210
I don't know what was worse Toei making Goku forget the Senzu Beans,the Urn and the Seal or the faggots defending Toei's shitty characterization of Goku, saying "he was always like this". Fucking retards.

>they literally created a new universe just so Trunks and Mai could pretend they haven't failed

This seems like a rather petty reason for engaging in the ethically dubious act of creating an entire new multiverse of people. Also unhealthy for Trunks and Mai.

>>150081638

I think that Goofy is smarter then Goku.

>>150081516

Okay, seriously, how is this even possible?

They have 2 kids.

>>150082412
Prepare for some mental gymnastics.

>>150082412
Rape.

>>150082412

Goku does it from the back. Either that or she drugged him.

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Best part of the arc.

>>150079964
Zamasu...

>>150082519
GANBARE

>>150082401
Its frankly horrifying. They are gonna be living alongside younger versions of themselves and facsimiles of people they once knew

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>>150082401
>Also unhealthy for Trunks and Mai.

Would like to see them after a few days of recovering and realisation of everything that happened

>>150082412
I don't think they knows how couples are supposed to act so they just act on animal instinct.

>>150082460

That's actually the only logical explanation I can think of. Which is pretty disturbing.

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>>150082519
They believed in you , Trunks
Too bad you failed them.

>>150082519
glad those shitty characters doesn't exist in the manga

>>150082869

But then we don't get to see them blow up.

>>150081516
>No kissing
>Goku and Chichi fuck like animals

Based Godku

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>Just TOEI my shit up

>>150082412
Are you still in elementary school?
You don't make children by kissing.

>>150083915

Yeah, you're right. I know you actually make children by hand holding

But seriously, the idea that 2 people who have had sex at least twice and yet haven't kissed is pretty hard to believe.

>>150079964
(((ZAMASU)))

>>150081631
damn, she would be at least as powerful as mr popo then

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>>150080614
Why didn't Trunks think to go back in time and just kill Dr. Gero?

I mean it wouldnt have worked but he didnt know that.

>>150084747
Trunks didn't know where his lab was.

>>150085330
Use the Dragonballs.

>>150085358
There are no Dragonballs, Piccolo is dead and Dende isnt on Earth

>>150085482
In the past dumbass.

>>150085489
Fuck, Im retarded

I guess Trunks really has no justification not to, closest you could really get is
>>150080614
>>150080652
but its not like Trunks has to take shit from Vegeta at this point since he isn't even a super saiyan yet, or better yet Trunks can just not show up around everyone and just do the whole thing himself with future Bulma's dragon radar.

>>150085696
He was also trying to find a way to stop the Androids right? If he killed Gero before he made em, then he'd have no idea how to stop them.

>>150080290
Kind of. It would be a paradox. Goku Black was wearing the Time Ring, which protected him from causality. He mentions as such. If he had tried to go back to his original time, then he would have faded from existence. Because of the protection and the paradox, i.e Beerus only knew to kill Zamasu because of Black, it instead created a time ring.

>>150080202
Whis says that he is going to travel to Trunks' timeline slightly before Beerus would die and tell him to kill Zamasu of that timeline. If Black showed up and Zamasu was already dead, it's doubtful that he would have stayed in that timeline since his whole plan was the merging shit.

This would cause another split and since Trunks would never travel to the past, he would still be there, thus two Trunks and Mai.

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>>150085773
True, but at this point in time Trunks doesnt know that going back in time results in travelling to a separate timeline, and is still under the impression that stopping them from ever being created in the past will save his future from them. Basically, he'd be fucking himself over, but he wouldn't know it until he got back to the future to find his androids alive and well, and Cell for that matter. That's actually an interesting thing to think about though, Trunks ended up finding Imperfect Cell in his timeline after he wiped out the androids, but if he simply got unlucky, Cell could have found the androids before he travelled back, and he'd have returned to the future just to face another Perfect Cell.

I think Trunks was also looking forward to going back so that he could meet Vegeta and Goku and all them as well though, he wouldn't have known how uncooperative they'd be, I doubt he'd have tried to avoid them even if he did go back looking to do business as opposed to just issue a warning.

Toyotaro is making up for Toei's stupid shit.

>>150082519
shine ningen

>>150086161
lucky for us the manga will be ahead of the anime and that's how they're going to relay information from now on according to Toyotaro's interview.
This is amazing news because Toei should just stick to replicating a source material.
TA is to blame for being lazy but at least they are correcting this.

>>150086302
Does this mean there's a chance the manga will become weekly instead of monthly?

>>150086515
no since the Dragon Ball Room expansion and everything happening to the franchise is based around VJump.
At best they'll get an increase to pages per month I believe.

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>>150079964
Zamass...

So since the Toyotaro interview said the anime will start using the manga as reference, will we get consistent animation, better art, and improved fights now since all Toei has to do is expand pre-existing fights?

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>>150081516

>>150079964
Samus...

>>150082634
Kissing is animal instinct. blah blah immunities, etc, etc.

>>150079973
No, he never finished. He made a special chapter of Roshi dying but the last main chapter was Xicor reaapearing in front of Vegeta.

>>150080021
They did that, it was Freeza and Hit(manga)

>>150087684
no

>>150085995
No, Trunks did know. He knew traveling back in time wouldn't affect his timeline. His goal was to see how Goku defeats them and copy that back home.

>>150081245
Where is this nonsense coming from? Nothing says Zeno affects the afterlife. Nothing at all.

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so, who is gokus best friend? Vegeta or Krillin?

>>150088388

It's assumed that Zeno destroyed the afterlife as well since Zamasu was spreading all around Trunks' universe. And with the fact that the afterlife is just a part of the universe, it's assumed that Zamasu could've infected it as well.

Think of Zamasu as ebola. With Ebola, it can still spread even after the body dies from it. So there's a good idea to just completely burn the body. Zeno is essentially the fire that burned Zamasu, but also the "body"(which is the entire universe) in the process.

>>150088562
That's just a fan theory, and everyone is treating it as fact. If it was actually affecting the afterlife, it would have been shown, and the Kaios would have mentioned it.

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Doujin of Trunks and Mai getting sent to the timeline where Cell killed him and having a harem ending with two Mais when?

Trunks fucking deserves it for all of this shit he got put through.

>>150088508
His main man Zeno destroyed not one, not two, but TWELVE universes just for Goku. What feats of friendship have Krillin of Vegeta done that can ever come close to that?

>>150088583
>it would have been shown
Yeah because everything else that happened in the series sure got a neat, tidy and sensical explanation.

Humans/Piccolo with god ki when?

>>150088807
I was thinking probably never aye. How the fuck would that even come about.

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>>150088724
Any time something related to the afterlife being affected was also mentioned or shown. Even in the Buu saga, we saw Yemna reacting to Buu having an effect on them

Here it's nothing but made up headcanon that you guys are treating as fact just to make the story edgier than it was

>>150088833
365 day binge in room of spirit and wine?

>>150088866
I honestly don't know where I sit on what actually happened. But considering there wouldn't be much point of an afterlife for a universe that doesn't exist, you would assume Zeno fucked that shit up as well.

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>new dragon ball
>introduce new power-up which does not hinge strictly on being saiyan for once
>only saiyan characters get it

>>150088957
How did it not hinge directly? There was a ritual that involved five saiyans and everything.

>>150088978
That was for SSG not SSB and Vegeta never did it.

Plus gods in general are unrelated to Saiyans.

>gohan going super saiyan after having his ultimate power unlocked

haha

what's wrong with these people?

>>150088866
The Black arc was edgy as it is, especially considering Zamasu gets wrecked only to kill all the non-important future characters immediately afterwards anyway. Zamasu ruined that universe and it had to go to get rid of him for good. Whether the Afterlife still existed or not is moot seeing as they clearly didn't dump Trunks and Mai there despite Buu Saga's circumstances. There's probably a damn good reason why they were dropped off in another timeline.

>>150089001
Come to think of it, doesn't the latest Heroes shit just kinda confirm that all you need to become a god is a dickload of ki being funneled directly into your system?

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can someone please explain if goku was the SSJ he saw in his dream?

beerus dreams always become reality right?

test

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>>150089197
damn i like this form so much. such a shame that it will probably never appear again..

where is vegetas and gokus tail ?

why doesnt the tail grow back

>>150089324
It only grows back if you're a kid
Besides Goku would just remove it again

>>150089197
>Manga

>>150079447
x10 wrecks his body, he used base Kaioken for a single hit. Trunks wasn't stronger, Vegetto wore Zamus down, and then Trunks finished him off with everyone (including Goku and Vegeta's) power.

Zenousama still had to finish him off anyways.

>>150079958
He never fed her with his mouth. The joke was awkward, but the punch line was that Goku didn't say "I've never kissed her" like Vegeta thought, he meant "I've never fed her from my own mouth."

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>>150089239
OUR GUY

>>150082401
If you haven't realized, this series has never at any point been preachy about morals. The characters all do whatever they feel like doing at any given time, and that's one of the best parts about it.

Anyone want to run down some cliff notes on what has happened so far?
Black Goku was Zematsu right? whats happened after that?

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he should have been the one to defeat black

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK485B7-VDQ

>>150089197
It was. The Oracle Date gave a specific time

>>150089522
It's not the same without the color unfortunately

>>150089631

gohan appeared in another time machine

>When Future Trunks sees Gohan

G-Gohan-San....!

>>150077160

The fuck was the point of Trunks leaving to go live in some other Trunks' timeline?

It wasn't his, he could have just lived in he main timeline

>>150090082
Mai said she wanted to see the last ningens that she fought with again.

>>150090116

She could see them in the main timeline as their younger selves

>>150090159
fine, then she just wanted a sexy 4some orgy with her twin and get dp'd by two Trunks.
There, are you happy now?

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>b-b-but only goku got to keep his body in the afterlife!

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W-what do you mean even yamcha will have an afterlife body!

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>>150079958
Ah an anime weanie

Goku doesn't do affection and doggie is his game

>>150080652
nope, goku is philosophical and logical

Why attack gero when he hasn't done anything? Bulma is the SJW there

>>150090231
>Goku will never meet Gohan again

>>150081131
She is one gag man tier

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>>150082519
"What the fuck are these kids? What? No they don't exist in MY story, get rid of them."

"B-but sir w-we've already put enough development on them so it would be really sad if they died....h-how c-could w-"

"I SAID THEY DON'T EXIST. I WRITE THAT NOW ZENO CHAN COMES DOWN AND DELETES THEM ALL. EVERYONE GETS PERMANENTLY ERASED, ESPECIALLY THE AFTERLIFE TOO BECAUSE THAT WOULD STILL COUNT AS EXISTENCE" (Raughs menacingly)

"B-but Toriyama-senpai w-we can't do..."

"SILENCE. I now also decree that Trunks and Mai are now time roamers and fuck forever. They come back with new saiyan children, look aren't they cool? We do need more saiyans because people love saiyans!"

"B-but s-sir what about the o-other z fighters like Piccolo or Tenshinhan..."

"Hmm, you're right inanimate object that I am speaking to. They've been in the story for so long, maybe it's time they pass on as well" (Raughs uncontrollably)

>>150085995
At least if the androids are any indication this Cell would be a lot weaker

>>150090395
>Toriyama-senpai
are you fucking dumb? It's sensei to you and all other ningens ya reet.

>>150086161
I can't wait to see the manga version of this arc's ending.

Will Yamcha ever get married?

>>150088508
It's hard to remember that Vegeta and Krillin's official heights aren't too far apart. It's kinda funny.

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>>150082519
But really, what was Toei thinking when they added those survivors and all the "I must protect those smiles" shit? I bet they didn't read the entire outline in advance and were caught by surprise when it said the timeline would be erased and only Trunks and Mai would survive.

Thank God Toyotaro didn't put any of this shit in the manga. In there, Trunks only ever talks about "taking his peace back", he never says shit about protecting muh survivors smiles.

>>150090082
because women and their illogical thingken

>>150088508
I'd say Krillin if he didn't spend so much time with Vegeta

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>>150089197
>>150089239
>looks way better than SSB
>they had it get completely surpassed
>they didn't keep it as a goal for the SSBs to shoot for as "pure god power" that SSB was a fraction of

It's like they can't into basic story-telling or merchandising.

reminder that SSR is actually just Zamasu's god ki combined with SSJ1

>>150088346
No, in his first appearance, he even talks about keeping his identity a secret to avoid endangering his existence. In the 2nd trip, he did know it, but it was likely because they saw nothing changed with the 1st trip.

>>150088866

It was mentioned in the BoGs arc that destroying the universe would take the otherworld with it. Those old Daizenshuu universe maps also included the afterlife as a physical location.

You mention the Buu Saga there, but note that most of those scenes were filler. Super doesn't have nearly as many cutaways. Heck, the entire universe was destroyed and yet we don't actually see any planet destroyed on screen aside from Earth being flattened.

>tfw no Time Ring to go back and stop Super from ever happening

>>150091528
>go back
someone didn't watch the series

>>150091544
Whatever man, I just want to forget it all.

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>scrap the whole multiverse tournament arc

>goku hangs out with kaioshin
>they visit zamasu and gowasu for shits and giggles
>goku wants to fight
>zamasu gets mad and disappears
>at the 1st multiverse tournament B L A C K appears
>he is wearing a rapper cap with BLACK in white sewn into it
>the tournament is about cooking the best meal for gods of destruction and rapping
>if black wins he will wish to erase all ningens
>he wins
>z fighters get mad and battle it out with him
>beerus destroys him
>trunks never comes to the present

>>150091583
I thought it was all pretty stupid too. I didn't mind Zamasu as a character I guess but the whole thing was retarded all throughout.

>>150084437
They haven't had mouth to mouth kiss. They might have kissed each other elsewhere like neck or something (or at least Chichi kissed him).

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when will this polka dotted cutie show up?

What previous Z/GT plot point will Super recycle next?

I'm amazed that there sin't any fan edit about the 'Goku Black arc'. You can do a good little ova if you remove all the filler crap.

>>150082401
At least now Trunks has someone strong to train with him.

>>150088866
You're literally fucking retarded.

>>150093218
What would you cut out then?

>>150089001
Yeah man, why can't the humans go Super Saiyan Blue? Bullshit I tell you! Bullshit!

You fucking moron.

>>150082401
>guest written by Andrew Hussie

We can all agree this show sucks right?

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>>150081541
>use mafuuba on universal giygas-zamasu
>put the entire universe in the jar
>choke to death because the z fighters are floating in absolute nothingness

>>150093099
Garlic Jr.'s son wants revenge.

>>150089589
Toriyama even admitted that. He said the biggest thing he disliked about the American DBZ dub is the changes to the script that make Goku look like a typical Superman-ian boyscout.

Toriyama specifically wrote Goku to have several "poisonous" character traits or something.

>>150081420
There'll be no Mafuba in the manga. With Beerus already going after Zamasu and being told about his questions to Zuno, there's zero reason for Goku to go back to the past.

I guess it could happen, but in a very different way though, like Goku attempting to improvise a Mafuba since saw it back then, when Kamisama used it, but then it failing since it was his first try.

>>150093544
>He said the biggest thing he disliked about the American DBZ dub is the changes to the script that make Goku look like a typical Superman-ian boyscout.
No, he said that about the Toei original content in the original anime. I don't think he ever watched the NA dub.

>>150093099
I'm hoping for an edit of Broly to pass by.

Scrap the whole saiyan bit, scrap almost everything about Broly.

Leave only the explosive ki barely contained within a living body, the vibe of a natural disaster (the character just wiping the floor with everyone) and the near-psychopathic behavior of an entity that has lost control over its ki.

>but beerus and whis can just wreck the entity

That's why you just find some convenient reason to remove them from the equation.
>beerus decides to test goku's and vegeta's power in some empty place in space
>they're doing pretty well, beerus is pleased, eats a lot and falls asleep among a big pile of empty pudding cups so whis tucks beerus in
>big bad Pedro McSTRONG von Brolystein shows up

>>150093322
Two trips that add nothing, the mafuba crap, all the pilaf gang scenes (especially the loli mai scenes), the Piccolo, Krillin, Goten and Chichi scenes, 50% of the Gohan episode, and 90% of the episode 67. Just to name a few.

>>150093708
>90% of the episode 67.
What would you remove from the conclusion of the arc?

>>150093632
He'd be absolutely disgusted if he watched the NA version then.

Filler that you'd like to watch.

I'd love a SoL episode that's all about Beerus and Whis.

I just want to see Beerus calculate the total amounts of people killed when he blows up a planet with a pocket calculator, put it in an excel sheet and email it to Zeno or Grand Priest in order to tally up the balance of life vs. death etc. like an accountant.

Given how much Toriyama takes inspiration from Chinese mythology, Beerus must do at least some accounting... maybe he has a basement full of salarymen hidden somewhere, just like the oni salarymen that work for King Yemma.

>>150093730
All, except parts from the beginning, and the goodbye part (witch should be edited so Trunks doesn't say that he fail to all his friends).

>>150081516
Disgusting. Fuck you Toei, Akira, or whoever the fuck writes this shit

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>>150093812
>Removing WORLD OF ZAMASU
Opinion discarded.

>>150093839
Why do people get so mad over the kiss shit?

>>150093852
>Population: Zamasu
>Ningen free planet since 1985
>Only Zamasu's allowed
>Best tea in the known Zamasu

>>150093544
>the biggest thing he disliked about the American DBZ dub is the changes to the script that make Goku look like a typical Superman-ian boyscout.
That's everybody who watches the dub, including the dub actors themselves.

>>150093959
They don't understand that Goku being a low-class saiyan is basically unable to understand familial and romantic bonds.

Come to think about it, the entire Son family is filled with "mentally ill" saiyans.

Gine had romantic feelings, and Bardock was a saiyan with compassion. Raditz had a fear of death, and Goku had some measure of goodness in his heart, even before he bumped his head (at least, as far as I know).

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>>150094034
Are Blacks allowed?

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>>150093852
>>150094034
>there will never be a spin-off called Dragon Ball Zamasu
>it won't be a twisted version of the Z-Fighters called the Zam-Fighters
>they will never travel the Universe battling ningen scum

>>150093812
>(witch should be edited so Trunks doesn't say that he fail to all his friends)
but he did
do you want him to be some kind of sociopath

>>150094079
Toriyama didn't really know what he was doing. He just wanted to draw a monkey boy kicking ass and it got too big.

He just wanted to draw some monkeys.

>>150094164
He wants to cut out the whole part with Zamasu becoming the universe and Zen-chan DELETing the universe.
So basically
>Trunks kills Zamasu
>Everybody congratulates Trunks
>Trunks brings everybody back to their timeline.
>He thanks everyone and goes back to his own timeline together with Mai.
>The end.

>>150080444
trips of truth

>>150094280
So he's actually some turk/spic powerlevel autist who cannot appreciate the episode without a clear cut win state?

What a faggot.

>>150080652
It's hilarious to see Krillin basically >implying his future marriage with 18 here.

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WHIS TEACHES TENSHINHAN TO USE GOD KI AND TENSHINHAN IS ON THE SAME LEVELS AS SAIYANS ARC WHEN

>>150094409
He won DB, hands down. Best and strongest waifu.

>>150080443
It's also important to note Tarble's soft personality. Even if Tarble had a high powerlevel, his softness would turn him in a weak leader. Vegeta's ruthlessness made him a better pick as a crown prince.

It's also important to remember Toriyama said that unlike normal saiyans, the saiyan royal family does care about their family. Tarble got sent away not because he was weak, but because King Vegeta cared about the boy. It was better for Tarble to live far away in peace than to suffer on Planet Vegeta.

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>bring back Vegito
>retcon everything about him
>have him do next to nothing so Trunks can kill the villain

why

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>>150094515
After piccolo channels the power of the dragon god Zalama and becomes a dragon god namekian arc.

>>150093959
Idiots who don't understand the character.

>>150094634
That's... actually pretty cool.

I do think that transformation needs a tail though.

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>>150094625
Worst part is Trunks didn't even succeed so they nerfed and retconned the fuck out him for absolutely nothing.
Just end me already.
I will never stop being salty.

>>150080652
Can anyone pin-point where Toriyama started drawing everyone more pointy instead of his early more round style?
I guess it was somewhere in Freeza's arc, but I don't remember.

>>150094280
They should just cut the survivors. Then the shitty timeline gets deleted and Trunks and Mai go live somewhere else and move on.

>>150094704
>nerfed and retconned the fuck out of him

>potara earrings can be used multiple times without backdraw

I don't understand how you fags can hate MORE Vegito.

>>150094634
why does every fanfic wank need to have spikes everywhere?

>>150094602

The existance of Tarble triggers me to the same amount as Bardock becoming the Super Saiyan of legend.

Just...why?
WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING?!

>>150094750
At least the spikes make sense here with the whole dragon shite.

>that zigor shite

Oh fuck man, just kill me. Chin horns? For what purpose?

>>150094750
Because spikes are literally edgy.
It also shows the artist is probably on the spectrum.

>>150094771
I actually like it a lot.

It just seems like a very saiyan thing to do.

>this saiyan is weak, a real softie - he can't even act as an infiltrator!
>oh i guess we'll just shoot him off to a far away planet so he can live in peace.
>okay.

>>150093852
Literally the worst thing that happen to the franchise. I dail to see what ere they thinking.

>>150094771
Dragonball Minus bothers me. A lot of the retcons to the mythos have been lackluster.

>>150094740
I don hate more Vegito I just hate what they did to him.
They nerfed him just so that he could make fucking Trunks look better.
Also the fact that the fusion only lasts for like 5 minutes means he will probably will never be used again after this arc.
They even put Goku and Vegeta in their old outfits just so that they don't have to bother giving him a new design.
His last moments in the series are of him being retconned and nerfed so hard that he is basically useless.
That is what pains me.

>>150094515
Honestly, I would love Tien becoming a reliable fighter again.
He's pretty much Gohan tier right now.

>>150094924
They should have saved his return for another arc.

>>150094924
>They nerfed him just so that he could make fucking Trunks look better.
You don't know that for sure Pedro, you autistic spic.

>>150077416
>Was so weak Gohan had to knock him out so he couldn't drag him down.

"Gohan! Let me go with you! This time! This time! I won't hold you back!"

Being Trunks is suffering no matter what setting he's in.

>>150094832
Saiyan-society is heavily influenced by spartan-society.
Tarble would be considered unworthy and left to die, or just gotten rid off ESPECIALLY because he is of the royal bloodline, which would be an even bigger disgrace.
People seem to forget the nature of the sayians.
Genocide, war, annihilation is their business.
I hate that saiyans are now just considered good natured "rowdys"
Remember Nappa? Remember Radditz?
Yeah, they were not "evil", they acted just like any regular saiyan.

tl;dr

They would have euthanized Tarble's useless ass.

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>>150094750
>>150094784
>>150094824
Let's go even further beyond.

>>150079958

They kissed in Dragon Ball, but I'm not sure if it was just anime exclusive scene.

>>150095241
You fucking retard.

Toriyama himself said that the royal family is different from all other saiyans in that they feel familial bonds and care for their family.

There's a major difference between a low-born saiyan and a royal saiyan. A royal saiyan has a far wider range of emotions that he or she can feel.

>>150095287
It's not an anime exclusive scene. Funimation just added a smootchy kiss sound effect to a scene where Goku hugs Chichi while their heads are offscreen.

In the Japanese version, Goku just hugs Chichi and walks away.

>>150095287
Yes, it was a filler scene

Zeno just destroyed the earth and Zamasu. Why are people acting like he destroyed the afterlife and everything else? Zamasu was connected to their present timeline and that still exists.

>>150095470
Why would Goku take him back to the present so Zeno could have a friend if there was anything left?

>>150095532
Because it saves him from having to become Zeno's friend

>>150094997
Let's wait until this part is in the manga, but I think they just put Vegetto as fan service and he was never even supposed to show up.

>>150095423
>Toriyama himself said that the royal family is different from all other saiyans in that they feel familial bonds and care for their family.

Nice apologism you got there.
Toryiama pulled that shit out of his ass, like so many other things in this unconsistent trainwreck of a lore.

>>150095562
He wanted to be Zeno's friend, though.

>>150095470
I assume Zen-oh only destroyed Universe 7

>>150095583
>Nice apologism you got there.
What does that even mean? You can't follow Word of God without being an apologist?

>episode with a title about new HOPE
>everyone fucking died, now you live in another timeline

Is it because it's a shounen series that Trunks and Mai didn't break down from the stress?

>>150095624
Goku telling Zeno to be friend's with himself from another timeline seems to hilariously say otherwise.

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If Trunks had the choice to only pick one, would he choose Gohan or Mai?

So did they explain already why Zeno destroyed the other universes earlier?

>>150095470
Zamasu clearly states that he has taken over the universe when he leaves his body form you fucking retard. So yes he destroyed the entire universe if not more.

>>150095785
I guess so.

I don't mind though. Among my favourite manga/anime series are Berserk and Guyver, so I'm used to bad ends.

>>150095857
Gohan
Mai is just a pump-n-dump
Gohan can be that, a bro, AND pump-n-dump Trunks.
Men are truly better

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>>150094851
>I dail to see
>dail

>>150095857
Both.
Fuse them together.
Maihan.

>>150095991
That reminds me.

Can you use ki through a gun, like how Trunks uses ki through a sword?

>galick gun gun!

And what about using a cannon?
>special beam cannon cannon!

>>150095583
Toriyama has always made it up as he goes when writing DB. Why are you surprised now?

>>150095857
what the fuck am I looking at?

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>>150095857
I think the answer is obvious.
We all know who the biggest gohanfag is.

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Leave Zamasu, Xeno and the wrecking of all dicks of the universe to me.

>>150095583
are you retarded by any chance?

>>150096072
za warudo

>>150096072
King Hit Guldo: The Crimson World

>F-Mai wanted to go to that timeline

But why? Those living there won't be the same group she fought for. They wouldn't thank her for anything and this only gives her an empty assurance.

Daily reminder Goku would sacrifice all 12 universes and the afterlife just to beat an enemy.

I'm sure people would have gotten used to seeing the millions of Zamasu faces in the sky in time.

>>150095877
Zamasu "clearly stated" a lot of things

He was becoming the universe/reality but we don't know how much was affected. It's probably just the world that got deleted though seeing as his face was in their timeline as well.

>>150096172
Real answer, the writers just wanted to write them out of the story.
In-universe answer she would rather live a lie than really just lose her home and world forever.

>>150096172
as stated earlier, women logic.

>>150096039
Most likely yes.

>>150096194
Reminder that Goku forgot the seal simply to orchestrate a situation in which he could call upon Zeno, to test whether or not he was above time. In the hope he could ferry one immortal absolute to his own Universe, and cause potential friction between the two, inciting a full-scale, multi-universal infinite war.
Just because he likes to fight.
Goku is playing
5
D
CHESS

>>150095943
Trumks is too straight for that

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>>150096085
Not so fast.

>>150096473
>gohan is a homosexual
not supersizing actually.

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>>150096528
Gohan is not a faggot.

>>150096111

no u

>>150096569
>Gohan
>not a faggot
digging the the hole deeper.

>>150096473
>>150096569
Wouldn't Gohan using the power of SSB just look like normal Gohan?

If Mystic Gohan had normal hair while in SS2, his hair should still be normal when using SSB.

>>150096041
He is clueless about his own lore and the more shit he adds/retcons the more obvious it becomes.

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>>150096655
dubs speak truth gohan is indeed a faggot. kek

>>150096655
Double dubs confirm.

>>150096669
Gohan's new form will be mystic white, which will be even stronger than blue.

>>150096741
Based Gohan is the correct sexuality

>>150096322
Goku's stupidity lead to the destruction of an entire timeline.

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>>150096655
>>150096741
>>150096748
Delete this

>>150096877
You mean Trunks' stupidity.

>>150094750
the design is supposed to look like porunga, what did you expect

>>150095857
Mai because he is thirsty.

>>150096172
She doesn't need them to thank her, just having her friends alive is enough.

>>150097286

But they won't be the same friends that survive the hardship caused by mr Black.

It's like going back to a pet shop to buy another pet dog after the first one died. It's just not the same dog that has been with you for years. It won't have the same traits and whatnot.

>>150097027
pussy > all

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>>150096879

>>150088712
Hasnt krillin died like 12 times?

>>150097587
4. he died in the ordinal dragon ball in king piccolo arc, and in z he died from frieza, died in future trunks's timeline by the androids and killed off by buu.

so zeno wiped out future universe 7. or the 12 multi verses.

Things I want to happen but probably won't
>Goku meeting Bardock and Gine
>Son Gohan (grandpa) meeting Bardock/Gine
>Chi-Chi meeting Gine
>Future Trunks meeting Bra (this arc was perfect for it but didn't happen)
>Gohan to stop being a useless lil shit
>Raditz reformed, or not even reformed just appearing again, stronger
>Golden God Ki Cell (Fanfiction tier, I know)
>Old Kai and Roshi hanging out
>Gowasu's happiness
>16 rebuilt and living happily with his birds

>>150094079
I don't exactly remember when it was said that Raditz was afraid of death. Is that just some extra trivia about him ?