I don't know why the writers just make up a new future timeline for trunks instead of using the android saga trunks.
>Was so weak Gohan had to knock him out so he couldn't drag him down
>Failed to destroy Frieza
>Got BTFO by Cell 1st form in the main timeline
>Got BTFO by Perfect Cell with just one energy beam
>Goes back in time, but this makes Gohan a cuck
>Failed to protect the future from the biggest /r9k/pol/ autist
>Yajirobe and Dr. Briefs' Kitten are dead and all is his fault
why are all saiyans such shitters, and I like Trunks.
so would you guys think it would be okay if they "canonized" gt though this multiverse tourney?
or should they just make up more alien gods to fight?
You might be on to something.
Like don't have it actually be GT, but have it be a good mimic of it and its more memorable characters.
Strongest fighter is an ape man, who looks like Sun Wukong. Another is the reincarnation of a powerful evil that has become a force for good. One more is the strongest fighter's grandkid, working to make grandpa proud. And another is the Sun Wunkong lookalike's eternal rival who is always just one step behind them. The last one is a cool, stoic dragon dude or chick that was once one of the heroes' foes but joined their side because of their sense of honor.
Yeah, the way Trunks just constantly showed up SSJB and FUSED fucking Zamasu without even trying was ridiculous. Someone needs punished for that. You need to keep your power levels in your media consistent or your entire narrative just becomes "NO! BUT I HAVE A SHIELD!"
She even started wearing lipstick to draw attention to them.
Kiss her Goku. Before she goes to kiss other people.
>trunks is stronger than vegito
Literally nothing like that was shown or stated.
>But spirit sword
Right after Vegito fucked him up.
Keep in mind that I'm saying this as a Trunksfag.
posting cute Chichis is a good meme
she's too pure and loyal for that. Goku really doesn't deserve her.
Question. Did Toyble/Toyotaro ever made the last chapter of his AF Doujin?
I wanted to check out his old work and the battle between Xicor and Goku but I only found a few sketches of SSJ5 Goku.
I'm tired as fuck with all these near-immortal/actual immortal/self recovering assholes. I really want shit like old school Vegeta who took the damage and if effected him throughout the battle making him so much weaker that Gohan could fight with him and not get decimated. You actually felt Vegeta and Goku getting weaker throughout the fight instead of just a "You're power level is dropping fast" without being shown any reason to believe that since they are still fighting at their near 100% power and speed anyways.
>"You're power level is dropping fast" without being shown any reason to believe that
This is a really big problem. The Vegetto vs Zamasu fight suffered from this so much.
Super's fight choreography is rarely ever solid, though. Even when the animation looks all right. I doubt we'll see that change any time soon.
Can someone explain to me how destroying Zamasu in the present didn't get rid of Zamasu in the future, but whis travelling forward in time to a slightly LESS distant future gets rid of Zamasu in the further distant future?
i agree with this.
Not necessarily canonize Toei's GT but follow the Super timeline into the same age
Why didn't Goku and friends just aks Gowasu to zip back to master Roshi and get the mafuba seal from him?
Goku is a fucking idiot. And it would not surprise me if Goku really wanted the mafuuba to fail. Just look how happy he is last episode when he completely ruined Trunk's life.
Only the Bulma and Kirin are the only ones to have logic.
>Missed opportunity to make Future Trunks a permanent addition to the DBZ cast
>The rest of the Z cast: lol wtf? fuck that let's fight them! what could possibility go wrong!?
Poor Trunks only if he were stronger he could've gotten things down Frieza style with no signs of mercy.
I mean fucking Vegeta why not fucking train Trunks in the time chamber and train him in the ways of the god to fully unlock ssjb?
Pretty much this.
It would've helped a tone actually. Trunks could've finish off Black before he can adapt with Full SSJB.
It's tradition in saiyan culture for the leader of the household to have access to their kids spouses.
Big reason why male/female saiyan fertility drops to basically zero after around 15 years after the last kid. Also the only reason the traditional Saiyan family is even a thing too and the low as fuck divorce rates.
Why didn't Arale come out of hiding to oneshot Vegeta/Nappa, Cell, and Buu? Now that she's confirmed still on earth she could've easily done it. Dr. Slump was a good man and I have to imagine he'd want to save the innocent citizens of earth....
If only Piccolo taught mafuba to F Trunks. He wouldn't forgotten he fucking sealing scroll paper. I mean honestly Goku forgetting things up the ass in the anime. of super is bugging the shit out of me.
>she even got erased in the afterlife
This isn't a time-travel thing, though.
I'm still bummed over the end of the last arc. Soured me on Super. I can accept a lot of dumb crap but that potara retcon and spirit bomb sword was a bit much. Everything's been downhill since the Battle of the Gods movie. Hard to get hyped for the new arc.
I don't know what was worse Toei making Goku forget the Senzu Beans,the Urn and the Seal or the faggots defending Toei's shitty characterization of Goku, saying "he was always like this". Fucking retards.
>they literally created a new universe just so Trunks and Mai could pretend they haven't failed
This seems like a rather petty reason for engaging in the ethically dubious act of creating an entire new multiverse of people. Also unhealthy for Trunks and Mai.
>Also unhealthy for Trunks and Mai.
Would like to see them after a few days of recovering and realisation of everything that happened
They believed in you , Trunks
Too bad you failed them.
Yeah, you're right. I know you actually make children by
But seriously, the idea that 2 people who have had sex at least twice and yet haven't kissed is pretty hard to believe.
Why didn't Trunks think to go back in time and just kill Dr. Gero?
I mean it wouldnt have worked but he didnt know that.
Fuck, Im retarded
I guess Trunks really has no justification not to, closest you could really get is
but its not like Trunks has to take shit from Vegeta at this point since he isn't even a super saiyan yet, or better yet Trunks can just not show up around everyone and just do the whole thing himself with future Bulma's dragon radar.
Kind of. It would be a paradox. Goku Black was wearing the Time Ring, which protected him from causality. He mentions as such. If he had tried to go back to his original time, then he would have faded from existence. Because of the protection and the paradox, i.e Beerus only knew to kill Zamasu because of Black, it instead created a time ring.
Whis says that he is going to travel to Trunks' timeline slightly before Beerus would die and tell him to kill Zamasu of that timeline. If Black showed up and Zamasu was already dead, it's doubtful that he would have stayed in that timeline since his whole plan was the merging shit.
This would cause another split and since Trunks would never travel to the past, he would still be there, thus two Trunks and Mai.
True, but at this point in time Trunks doesnt know that going back in time results in travelling to a separate timeline, and is still under the impression that stopping them from ever being created in the past will save his future from them. Basically, he'd be fucking himself over, but he wouldn't know it until he got back to the future to find his androids alive and well, and Cell for that matter. That's actually an interesting thing to think about though, Trunks ended up finding Imperfect Cell in his timeline after he wiped out the androids, but if he simply got unlucky, Cell could have found the androids before he travelled back, and he'd have returned to the future just to face another Perfect Cell.
I think Trunks was also looking forward to going back so that he could meet Vegeta and Goku and all them as well though, he wouldn't have known how uncooperative they'd be, I doubt he'd have tried to avoid them even if he did go back looking to do business as opposed to just issue a warning.
lucky for us the manga will be ahead of the anime and that's how they're going to relay information from now on according to Toyotaro's interview.
This is amazing news because Toei should just stick to replicating a source material.
TA is to blame for being lazy but at least they are correcting this.
So since the Toyotaro interview said the anime will start using the manga as reference, will we get consistent animation, better art, and improved fights now since all Toei has to do is expand pre-existing fights?
so, who is gokus best friend? Vegeta or Krillin?
It's assumed that Zeno destroyed the afterlife as well since Zamasu was spreading all around Trunks' universe. And with the fact that the afterlife is just a part of the universe, it's assumed that Zamasu could've infected it as well.
Think of Zamasu as ebola. With Ebola, it can still spread even after the body dies from it. So there's a good idea to just completely burn the body. Zeno is essentially the fire that burned Zamasu, but also the "body"(which is the entire universe) in the process.
Doujin of Trunks and Mai getting sent to the timeline where Cell killed him and having a harem ending with two Mais when?
Trunks fucking deserves it for all of this shit he got put through.
Any time something related to the afterlife being affected was also mentioned or shown. Even in the Buu saga, we saw Yemna reacting to Buu having an effect on them
Here it's nothing but made up headcanon that you guys are treating as fact just to make the story edgier than it was
I honestly don't know where I sit on what actually happened. But considering there wouldn't be much point of an afterlife for a universe that doesn't exist, you would assume Zeno fucked that shit up as well.
>new dragon ball
>introduce new power-up which does not hinge strictly on being saiyan for once
>only saiyan characters get it
The Black arc was edgy as it is, especially considering Zamasu gets wrecked only to kill all the non-important future characters immediately afterwards anyway. Zamasu ruined that universe and it had to go to get rid of him for good. Whether the Afterlife still existed or not is moot seeing as they clearly didn't dump Trunks and Mai there despite Buu Saga's circumstances. There's probably a damn good reason why they were dropped off in another timeline.
can someone please explain if goku was the SSJ he saw in his dream?
beerus dreams always become reality right?
damn i like this form so much. such a shame that it will probably never appear again..
x10 wrecks his body, he used base Kaioken for a single hit. Trunks wasn't stronger, Vegetto wore Zamus down, and then Trunks finished him off with everyone (including Goku and Vegeta's) power.
Zenousama still had to finish him off anyways.
He never fed her with his mouth. The joke was awkward, but the punch line was that Goku didn't say "I've never kissed her" like Vegeta thought, he meant "I've never fed her from my own mouth."
If you haven't realized, this series has never at any point been preachy about morals. The characters all do whatever they feel like doing at any given time, and that's one of the best parts about it.
he should have been the one to defeat black
>b-b-but only goku got to keep his body in the afterlife!
W-what do you mean even yamcha will have an afterlife body!
Ah an anime weanie
Goku doesn't do affection and doggie is his game
"What the fuck are these kids? What? No they don't exist in MY story, get rid of them."
"B-but sir w-we've already put enough development on them so it would be really sad if they died....h-how c-could w-"
"I SAID THEY DON'T EXIST. I WRITE THAT NOW ZENO CHAN COMES DOWN AND DELETES THEM ALL. EVERYONE GETS PERMANENTLY ERASED, ESPECIALLY THE AFTERLIFE TOO BECAUSE THAT WOULD STILL COUNT AS EXISTENCE" (Raughs menacingly)
"B-but Toriyama-senpai w-we can't do..."
"SILENCE. I now also decree that Trunks and Mai are now time roamers and fuck forever. They come back with new saiyan children, look aren't they cool? We do need more saiyans because people love saiyans!"
"B-but s-sir what about the o-other z fighters like Piccolo or Tenshinhan..."
"Hmm, you're right inanimate object that I am speaking to. They've been in the story for so long, maybe it's time they pass on as well" (Raughs uncontrollably)
But really, what was Toei thinking when they added those survivors and all the "I must protect those smiles" shit? I bet they didn't read the entire outline in advance and were caught by surprise when it said the timeline would be erased and only Trunks and Mai would survive.
Thank God Toyotaro didn't put any of this shit in the manga. In there, Trunks only ever talks about "taking his peace back", he never says shit about protecting muh survivors smiles.
>looks way better than SSB
>they had it get completely surpassed
>they didn't keep it as a goal for the SSBs to shoot for as "pure god power" that SSB was a fraction of
It's like they can't into basic story-telling or merchandising.
No, in his first appearance, he even talks about keeping his identity a secret to avoid endangering his existence. In the 2nd trip, he did know it, but it was likely because they saw nothing changed with the 1st trip.
It was mentioned in the BoGs arc that destroying the universe would take the otherworld with it. Those old Daizenshuu universe maps also included the afterlife as a physical location.
You mention the Buu Saga there, but note that most of those scenes were filler. Super doesn't have nearly as many cutaways. Heck, the entire universe was destroyed and yet we don't actually see any planet destroyed on screen aside from Earth being flattened.
>scrap the whole multiverse tournament arc
>goku hangs out with kaioshin
>they visit zamasu and gowasu for shits and giggles
>goku wants to fight
>zamasu gets mad and disappears
>at the 1st multiverse tournament B L A C K appears
>he is wearing a rapper cap with BLACK in white sewn into it
>the tournament is about cooking the best meal for gods of destruction and rapping
>if black wins he will wish to erase all ningens
>z fighters get mad and battle it out with him
>beerus destroys him
>trunks never comes to the present
when will this polka dotted cutie show up?
>use mafuuba on universal giygas-zamasu
>put the entire universe in the jar
>choke to death because the z fighters are floating in absolute nothingness
Toriyama even admitted that. He said the biggest thing he disliked about the American DBZ dub is the changes to the script that make Goku look like a typical Superman-ian boyscout.
Toriyama specifically wrote Goku to have several "poisonous" character traits or something.
There'll be no Mafuba in the manga. With Beerus already going after Zamasu and being told about his questions to Zuno, there's zero reason for Goku to go back to the past.
I guess it could happen, but in a very different way though, like Goku attempting to improvise a Mafuba since saw it back then, when Kamisama used it, but then it failing since it was his first try.
>He said the biggest thing he disliked about the American DBZ dub is the changes to the script that make Goku look like a typical Superman-ian boyscout.
No, he said that about the Toei original content in the original anime. I don't think he ever watched the NA dub.
I'm hoping for an edit of Broly to pass by.
Scrap the whole saiyan bit, scrap almost everything about Broly.
Leave only the explosive ki barely contained within a living body, the vibe of a natural disaster (the character just wiping the floor with everyone) and the near-psychopathic behavior of an entity that has lost control over its ki.
>but beerus and whis can just wreck the entity
That's why you just find some convenient reason to remove them from the equation.
>beerus decides to test goku's and vegeta's power in some empty place in space
>they're doing pretty well, beerus is pleased, eats a lot and falls asleep among a big pile of empty pudding cups so whis tucks beerus in
>big bad Pedro McSTRONG von Brolystein shows up
Two trips that add nothing, the mafuba crap, all the pilaf gang scenes (especially the loli mai scenes), the Piccolo, Krillin, Goten and Chichi scenes, 50% of the Gohan episode, and 90% of the episode 67. Just to name a few.
Filler that you'd like to watch.
I'd love a SoL episode that's all about Beerus and Whis.
I just want to see Beerus calculate the total amounts of people killed when he blows up a planet with a pocket calculator, put it in an excel sheet and email it to Zeno or Grand Priest in order to tally up the balance of life vs. death etc. like an accountant.
Given how much Toriyama takes inspiration from Chinese mythology, Beerus must do at least some accounting... maybe he has a basement full of salarymen hidden somewhere, just like the oni salarymen that work for King Yemma.
>Removing WORLD OF ZAMASU
>the biggest thing he disliked about the American DBZ dub is the changes to the script that make Goku look like a typical Superman-ian boyscout.
That's everybody who watches the dub, including the dub actors themselves.
They don't understand that Goku being a low-class saiyan is basically unable to understand familial and romantic bonds.
Come to think about it, the entire Son family is filled with "mentally ill" saiyans.
Gine had romantic feelings, and Bardock was a saiyan with compassion. Raditz had a fear of death, and Goku had some measure of goodness in his heart, even before he bumped his head (at least, as far as I know).
>there will never be a spin-off called Dragon Ball Z
>it won't be a twisted version of the Z-Fighters called the
>they will never travel the Universe battling ningen scum
He wants to cut out the whole part with Zamasu becoming the universe and Zen-chan DELETing the universe.
>Trunks kills Zamasu
>Everybody congratulates Trunks
>Trunks brings everybody back to their timeline.
>He thanks everyone and goes back to his own timeline together with Mai.
WHIS TEACHES TENSHINHAN TO USE GOD KI AND TENSHINHAN IS ON THE SAME LEVELS AS SAIYANS ARC WHEN
It's also important to note Tarble's soft personality. Even if Tarble had a high powerlevel, his softness would turn him in a weak leader. Vegeta's ruthlessness made him a better pick as a crown prince.
It's also important to remember Toriyama said that unlike normal saiyans, the saiyan royal family does care about their family. Tarble got sent away not because he was weak, but because King Vegeta cared about the boy. It was better for Tarble to live far away in peace than to suffer on Planet Vegeta.
>bring back Vegito
>retcon everything about him
>have him do next to nothing so Trunks can kill the villain
After piccolo channels the power of the dragon god Zalama and becomes a dragon god namekian arc.
Worst part is Trunks didn't even succeed so they nerfed and retconned the fuck out him for absolutely nothing.
Just end me already.
I will never stop being salty.
I actually like it a lot.
It just seems like a very saiyan thing to do.
>this saiyan is weak, a real softie - he can't even act as an infiltrator!
>oh i guess we'll just shoot him off to a far away planet so he can live in peace.
I don hate more Vegito I just hate what they did to him.
They nerfed him just so that he could make fucking Trunks look better.
Also the fact that the fusion only lasts for like 5 minutes means he will probably will never be used again after this arc.
They even put Goku and Vegeta in their old outfits just so that they don't have to bother giving him a new design.
His last moments in the series are of him being retconned and nerfed so hard that he is basically useless.
That is what pains me.
>Was so weak Gohan had to knock him out so he couldn't drag him down.
"Gohan! Let me go with you! This time! This time! I won't hold you back!"
Being Trunks is suffering no matter what setting he's in.
Saiyan-society is heavily influenced by spartan-society.
Tarble would be considered unworthy and left to die, or just gotten rid off ESPECIALLY because he is of the royal bloodline, which would be an even bigger disgrace.
People seem to forget the nature of the sayians.
Genocide, war, annihilation is their business.
I hate that saiyans are now just considered good natured "rowdys"
Remember Nappa? Remember Radditz?
Yeah, they were not "evil", they acted just like any regular saiyan.
They would have euthanized Tarble's useless ass.
Let's go even further beyond.
You fucking retard.
Toriyama himself said that the royal family is different from all other saiyans in that they feel familial bonds and care for their family.
There's a major difference between a low-born saiyan and a royal saiyan. A royal saiyan has a far wider range of emotions that he or she can feel.
It's not an anime exclusive scene. Funimation just added a smootchy kiss sound effect to a scene where Goku hugs Chichi while their heads are offscreen.
In the Japanese version, Goku just hugs Chichi and walks away.
Zeno just destroyed the earth and Zamasu. Why are people acting like he destroyed the afterlife and everything else? Zamasu was connected to their present timeline and that still exists.
>Toriyama himself said that the royal family is different from all other saiyans in that they feel familial bonds and care for their family.
Nice apologism you got there.
Toryiama pulled that shit out of his ass, like so many other things in this unconsistent trainwreck of a lore.
If Trunks had the choice to only pick one, would he choose Gohan or Mai?
I think the answer is obvious.
We all know who the biggest gohanfag is.
Leave Zamasu, Xeno
and the wrecking of all dicks of the universeto me.
Zamasu "clearly stated" a lot of things
He was becoming the universe/reality but we don't know how much was affected. It's probably just the world that got deleted though seeing as his face was in their timeline as well.
Reminder that Goku forgot the seal simply to orchestrate a situation in which he could call upon Zeno, to test whether or not he was above time. In the hope he could ferry one immortal absolute to his own Universe, and cause potential friction between the two, inciting a full-scale, multi-universal infinite war.
Just because he likes to fight.
Goku is playing
dubs speak truth gohan is indeed a faggot. kek
But they won't be the same friends that survive the hardship caused by mr Black.
It's like going back to a pet shop to buy another pet dog after the first one died. It's just not the same dog that has been with you for years. It won't have the same traits and whatnot.
Things I want to happen but probably won't
>Goku meeting Bardock and Gine
>Son Gohan (grandpa) meeting Bardock/Gine
>Chi-Chi meeting Gine
>Future Trunks meeting Bra (this arc was perfect for it but didn't happen)
>Gohan to stop being a useless lil shit
>Raditz reformed, or not even reformed just appearing again, stronger
>Golden God Ki Cell (Fanfiction tier, I know)
>Old Kai and Roshi hanging out
>16 rebuilt and living happily with his birds
Raditz was begging for his life when he realised Piccolo was going to kill him.
Vegeta never begged for his life, Goku never did, Nappa never did.
Every saiyan we've seen getting close to death or dying never begged.
>Toriyama himself said that the royal family is different from all other saiyans in that they feel familial bonds and care for their family.
>Toryiama pulled that shit out of his ass
Toriyama pulls shit out of his ass constantly, but this wasn't an asspull if you're not an absolute fucking retard. Which I suppose explains why you're struggling to wrap your mind around the concept so hard I can almost feel the smoke pouring from your ears.
This hit me harder than it should have.
It's so interesting how you aren't bringing anything new to the discussion except for more ad hominem insults.
you sound like a butthurt fanboy.
Tarble's existance is a fucking joke and defending it because
>muh royal family
won't make it any better.
Does this mean Black could have gone SSJR 3?
I wasn't arguing about Tarble's existence being a joke you fucking retard. I think he's a shit character. I was pointing out how wrong you are about claiming Toriyama's confirmation that the Vegeta family actually does feel familial affection is an asspull.
Stop being retarded. You're never going to be taken seriously otherwise.
Nappa isn't dying there. He's asking Vegeta to help him up because he's paralyzed. Nappa didn't start dying until Nappa was thrown in the air, and Vegeta lauched an energy attack at Nappa.
Is it just me, or soundtrack in Super is kind of dull.
I dunno, it's the same guy who did Buu Saga Kai, and he is really good. But I don't particularly like any songs from Super aside from Black's.
While Buu Saga Kai had these.
They even used second one in the Super, should be doing that more often.
We are all retarded for arguing about taiwanese cartoon characters you fucking mongoloid.
Toriyama even forgot Piccolos name at one point.
The whole Dragonball Franchise is a complete asspull.
Now cry some moar fagit.
>Nappa isn't dying here
You're splitting hairs.
Look at his expression.
He's cleary begging him to be spared.
He's very afraid Vegeta might kill him because he failed and is first relieved, when he took his hand, then realized that his fears became true when he launched him into the air.
He's begging to get some help getting back up.
>Vegeta help me!
He doesn't say:
>Please Kakarrot, let me go. We'll both die like this. Please, I'm your brother. We're saiyans... Please don't let me die like this! I'll go far away and I'll never come back!
Because that's what Raditz did, you fucking retard.
>ywn see Vegito SoL moments
>ywn see Vegito getting beat down by Arale for laughs
>ywn see Vegito anything again
>mfw people actually srsly arguing about Dragonball
>that would be baller desu, also make ssj4 as strong as god and make it so "even with hard work a regular guy can stand up to gods", it would save super for me
Fuck off Pedro. Powerlevels are never coming back. Goku will never defeat Beerus.
Looks primal, badass, and mystical, not to mention it gives saiyans a tail again. It also comes with cool attacks like red kamehameha, there's nothing interesting with god transformations, it's just recolors with nothing new.
>and make it so "even with hard work a regular guy can stand up to gods", it would save super for me
You're a retarded powerlevel fag, and you should fuck off back to R e d d i t.
Shitting all over powerlevel fags such as yourself is the best thing Toriyama has done in years.
If you said this a few months ago I would have agreed with you, but the OST has been on point since Best Gods arrived.
I think the sound direction in general in this arc is better too since the last 3 aren't even new from this arc, but this is the first time that I didn't even remember hearing them before this arc.
>Looks primal, badass, and mystical, not to mention it gives saiyans a tail again.
I don't understand this autism, neither the mexican lover autistic guy. If I was a "powerlevel fag" or whatever autistic made up terms you unironically use when discussing children's manga, then SSJ4 standing up to SSJB wouldn't make sense. It's precisely because I don't care about powerlevels that I want them to make the asspull that SSJ4 is as strong as SSJB. If you're going to completely ruin what made dragon ball a semi serious shonen, at least make it a fun clusterfuck.
It's much better than deviantart donut steel hair recolour. It gives some extra context on the ape form and actually looks more godly. Then the easiest thing to do would b to just make the fur and hair golden. The form was the only thing I like about GT.
Is there anyone other than Zeno that could even possibly defeat Zamasu? And I’m not talking about the Zamasu from the main timeline who brewed tea for Gowasu and got destroyed by Beerus. I'm also not talking about the Zamasu from the timeline where he managed to steal Goku's body with the Super Dragon Balls and then went to Future Trunks' timeline and killed all the gods and ningens. And I'm also not talking about the Zamasu from Future Trunks's timeline who attained immortality with the Super Dragon Balls and likely had sex with the Zamasu who stole Goku's body. And I'm also not talking about the Zamasu in Goku's body who managed to turn into a Super Saiyan with fabolous pink hair. Hell, I'm also not talking about the fusion between the Zamasu who stole Goku's body and the Zamasu of the Future who became immortal. And I'm not even talking about the fused Zamasu who went through a weird mutation because of the fusion's side-effects and because of justice. And hell no, I'm also not even talking about the mutated fused Zamasu who entered the Power Stressed form and obviously did not watch the Cell saga because that form only makes you slower and weaker. I'm talking about the body-less Zamasu that quickly managed to become one with reality, destroyed all the ningens on Earth and then tried to spread to other timelines so that he would become existance itself.
I only liked ssj 4 in budokai 3 for some reason.
Someone get these fucking GT furries out of here ASAP.
Zamasu is truly the madara of our time.
Goku Black version of this when?
It looks like shit. Bright red fur because...reasons. And hair doesn't change color because...reasons. Eyeliner. Fucking magic pants.
It's shit and its fans are shit. Super Cyan is shit and its fans are also shit.
Perdo you need to go back to puerto.
>Bright red fur because...reasons. And hair doesn't change color because...reasons. Eyeliner. Fucking magic pants.
As I said, mystical. It is so powerful it says "fuck logic" and warps reality around the user. It is the patrician transformation plebs like you don't understand.
No kiss. it was filler. Goku just immediately fucked off where Gohan was after waking up.
I guess that Chichi never read the part about kissing.
We need more of this Chi-chi, not Chi-chi that just jumped over Goku when Vecheetah fucked off.
I also liked that during Tournament 6 saga she was first to jump to Goku. Little moments like this are always sweet.
Completely different, but do you guys prefer the manga version of this scene or the anime version where Goku and Chichi had a moment.
If I have to be honest, eventhough it is non-canon, I thought it was kinda nice seeing them behave as husband and wife.
Me too. Hell I just like when Goku behaves like an adult when it matters.
In fact, slacking off from job is exactly an adult-like behavior, especially when you have 100 million dollars. I just think they need to strike a balance between his childlike behavior and adult behavior. Like, I dunno, not forgetting paper seal and senzu beans.
>or was into that from the beginning.
But you know what he isn't?
A po' lil' whyte boi that can't keep off an asian chode long enough to realize DBS is shit.
My issue is they kinda go against dragonball transformations. Barring SSJ3 most transformations are subtle and underwhelming, which not only makes it counter to a big buff huge transformation, but also allows character design and choreography to stay consistent for fighting purposes.
Even forms like SSJ3 or 100% Freeza tend to have huge drawbacks, so despite the fact that they're incredibly impressive huge looking powerups they actually weaken the characters over time and they're only good temporarily.
SSJ4 simply doesn't feel like a very "Dragonball" transformation. SSJ4 Goku doesn't feel like Goku. And that causes it to lose points. He feels like he stops being Goku and just becomes a different character. SSJ Goku is a bit more intense but he can still be lighthearted, enjoy fighting while still being a bit of an ignorant hick.
>Those fucking comments
>That fucking autism
That Chi-chi shows up like...a couple of times.
It may be hard for people to remember but Chi-chi eventually lets Goku get his way EVERY SINGLE TIME. She may pitch a fit and get angry but she eventually says it's ok every time because She knows she can't stop him and she knows he needs to do what he does.
Also, Goku is a grown man. Gohan was 4. Wouldn't you jump over your GROWN MAN HUSBAND to comfort your 4 year old injured child at ground zero of an alien invasion? That's just mom instinct.
Well, yeah, but she also completely fucking neglected Goku, she could've at least thrown a fit about putting Gohan in danger AND ask if Goku's feeling all right after getting his muscles exploded and getting crushed by a giant gorilla.