Dragon Ball Super

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ITT: People who did nothing wrong

The episode's conclusion was a bit shockingly dark for DB, but... I expected something like it.

I mean, it was a timeline where the only god left was Zeno. Zeno didn't seem like the kind of guy who would bother put effort in recreating a whole new hierarchy of gods. Zeno seemed like the guy who would say "I'm gonna DELET this."

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>>149975188
>>149975250
Best OTP and Heroic duo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM-XhQeFzW4
They will forever be missed and remembered.

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>managed to tear up because of a chinese morning cartoon

I wasn't ready for the feels with the last Gohan scene

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>>149975325
Or that last sad "zamas..."

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>>149975325
It was great seeing him in this style again. It was obviously a one time thing judging by the preview, but the scene was pretty touching.

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>in the end nobody really won

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>>149975188
>TFW you'll never relive these five months of memes and mad gohan & vegeta fag posts again

>>149975409
preview of next ep is fillerrrrrrrrrrrrr.

>>149975325
>>149975346
I'm kind of sad we don't get a godly bureaucratic filler saga, about some Kai of Management setting Shin up with a fuckload of paper work about new rules and restrictions for training apprentices, and an order to train four new supreme kais, and take a course in how to be a grand supreme kai.
And then he also visits King Kai, and asks why King Kai is dead...

Also, Old Kai is threatened with being forced to live at a home for elderly kai if he keeps oggling naked NINGEN.

>>149975252
I was expecting Zeno to hard reboot the earth as easily as the super dragonballs could

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>>149975458
Zanas won and achieved his goal although he's gone too

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>Those virgins on 4chan actually thought I gave a single fuck about those little shits
>And to think all I had to do was cry a bit and shoot my gun a couple of times
>Now this saiyan cock belongs to me forever
Mai is a hard saiyan cock addict and she did what she had to do to get her fix

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>Zamasu became Giygas
damn, that was crazy.

I think the way the saga was wrapped up was really sloppy and stupid. I'm happy that it was Zeno who did it, but I expected Zeno to be a being that transcended time and that there couldn't possibly be two Zeno in existence.

And now Whis/Beerus off camera went to another alternate future and sealed another Black and Zamasu and that's where Future Trunks and Mai are going to live alongside ANOTHER Future Trunks and Mai. There is a possibility for Black and Zamasu to come back if they're freed from Whis' seal.

This is all really mixed up. What I was hoping for was that they were going to make the Xenoverse games canon and turn Future Trunks into a Time Patroller since he had no world to go back to.

>>149975458
Goku got to fight someone strong, and lost nothing
that's a win in his book

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lw2HklA-WA
I miss him

>>149975188
The best character in the worst arc.
This is truly ZAMAS

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Anime should stick to making webms of the manga.
I can't wait til the manga sets the bar for the tv adaptation to replicate.
Toyotaro is literally /our guy/

>>149975513
The ultimate God isn't Zeno, it's Toriyama
Zeno is just there to manage the gods beneath him.

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I have been here for like almost 2 years and I wondering how this ride compared to the other fabled rides like samumenco, valvrave, code geass and the like?

>>149975537
he'll be back
in Xenoverse 2 DLC pack 2

>>149975567
So is this frosts final form or his version of frieza golden form?

>>149975567
toyotaro a shit, zamatsu reason to take goku body was shit in the manga

I really hate Trunks

>>149975590
>code geass

One of the worst shows made with absolutly garbage artstyle to boot.

>>149975615
>zamatsu reason to take goku body was shit in the manga
Fuck off Pedro, it's rushed but it's not as bad creating a Causal Loop Paradox that created a massive plothole.

I want to see a foursome with double future Trunks and double future Mai.

>>149975325
I cried and sobbed like I haven't done in years. No idea why it hit me so hard.

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>>149975513
>This is all really mixed up. What I was hoping for was that they were going to make the Xenoverse games canon and turn Future Trunks into a Time Patroller since he had no world to go back to.

Or he could have just stayed in the main timeline. I'm surprised they didn't do that considering how popular of a character he is.

>>149975615
>toyotaro a shit
Your opinion is shit Jose.

Where's the XV2 manga? Wasn't it released for Collector's Edition? Only the first page has ever been leaked onto the web from what I've figured.

>>149975733
Zamasss

>>149975733
Zamasu....

>>149975733
Zamasu...

>>149975664
I wouldn't want to see Trunks stealing any more air time from Goku and Vegeta than he already has.

>>149975733
Zamasu...

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>>149975733
Zamasu...

This ending could be so good, literally no one won. But Super is so shit and made everything so half-assed that in the end you don't even fell the drama

>>149975733
Zamasu...

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>>149975733
Watch it...

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>>149975733
Zamasu...

>>149975733
Zamasu...

>>149975612
Final. No God Ki in that guy

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Wait, so are we never going to get an explanation to what the fuck False SSJ Blue actually was?

>>149975612
final form.

>>149975733
Zamas...

>>149975840
Nope. Our only hope now is an interview.

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>>149975733

>>149975839
>>149975841
I thought Golden Frieza didn't have god ki either.

>>149975840
Probably Gohan will get it

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>yfw in like half a year or what "ZAMASU" will be le epic funny ITS OVER 9000 mainstream meme

>>149975840
SSJNA (ningen augmented)

>>149975875
he doesn't. It's not his golden form that rivals God Ki though.

>>149975840
for now, just assume that the grade after turbobuff lets you tap into the 1/5th of a saiyan god inherent in all saiyans

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>>149975733
Cooler...

>>149975840
Perfected SSJ2 + untamed God Ki.

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Reminder that the scum of the onminverse known as NINGENS are the greatest evil in in existance and that Zamasu was right.
Those barbaric bastards would rather destroy a multiverse and everything in it including, animals, planets and the deceased souls of their fellow NINGEN """""comrades""""" in the afterlife than letting Zamasu create his utopia for kamis by kamis.
Because of those inbred retard NINGENS everything is off far worse than what it would have been if based Zamasu and Black won.
This is undeniable proof that Zamasu was right and the NINGENS should be purged from our cosmic history and future.

>>149975637
At least it wasn't Death Note

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>>149975887
What a dreadful though, don't even joke about that.

>>149975637
dragonballfags with shit taste, not even suprised

Zamasu Did Nothing Wrong

Universe Zamasu desktop background when?

>>149975188
Okay, how the hell did he kill everyone before destroy earth

>>149975409
It'd be nice if he and piccolo became relevant again.

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>Grandkids confirmed
They HAVE to come back for the tournament now. I think the team will be something like

>Goku
>Vegeta
>Gohan (yes he's coming back you fucks)
>Future Trunks
>Monaka

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>>149975840
It's just SSJ2 with an absorbed spirit bomb manifested as a sword instead of a death ball.

Similar to how Goku defeated Super Android 13 in one of the movies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vQpNusyvMk

>>149976034
Not that.

SSJ2 + Blue Aura Trunks.

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One thing I didn't get watching the latest episode was when Zamasu was attacking from the sky, the time machine, Mai, Bulma, Gowasu, and Supreme Kai were shielded...

Who did that? And how did they have the power to deflect a fused God's attack?

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>There are no lewds of this qt except the pandoras box pic

>>149976027
I really dont want a slot wasted on monaka. that joke has run its course

>>149976050
Wait for either the dub or Toriyama's next interview if he hasn't kicked the bucket yet

>>149976088
Piccolo then?

>>149975188
okay, anyone explain to me why Zamasu became Giygas.
It come too late and there are no hint to it
maybe it will become plotpoint for the next arc

>>149975839
>implying frieza had god ki

>>149976018
Didn't you watch the episode? He become some sort of distorted cloud of evil (kinda like Giygas in Earthbound) and used a ton of black+red flashing rays to completely flatten the Earth.

He didn't just make a bunch of of explosions. He FLATTENED the whole planet. There weren't even those destroyed buildings in the background anymore. Just a flat, desolate background.

Trunks/Goku/Vegeta didn't die because they were strong (even if they were hit directly by one of the rays), and Bulma/Mai were protected by the Supreme Kais. Everyone else died.

Zamasu took "control" of Earth, and was starting to spread throughout the universe. Goku called Zeno, and he erased everything.

So Zeno is not really a Christian god, since he is not omnipresent and each time-line seems to have it's own Zeno. It opens possibilities for higher ranked gods in the future. God of all time-lines?

>>149976122
he shed his kai body and became a being of pure energy

>>149976077
I only watched it once but it looked to me like Gowasu did it.

>>149976110
Piccolo will get the most BS powerup known in all of DB's history. He will probably become something like that of a Namekian god.

>>149976077
Gowasu and Shin probably combined forces to shield them.

And it's probable that Zamasu was just using enough power to kill off the nameless humans, and wanted the heroes to suffer. Zamasu's constant weakness throughout the arc has been underestimating NINGEN.

>>149976138
Zeno is clearly a child. There must be his parents around.

>>149976138
In Xenoverse that's Toki-Toki, with his caretaker Chronoa.

>>149976077
If you watch closely, the Supreme Kais raise their hands.

About the barrier, think about how Babidi/Bibidi could shield himself from a planet explosion, even if he was weaker than Chiaotzu (probably).

Since the Boo Saga, there's another "power" that's not battle power (related to fighting). It's magic. Remember how Kaioshin restrained Gohan SSJ2 even though he was much weaker than him?

I'm surprised that Future Zeno was okay with Goku hugging him.

>"Who are you and why the fuck are you touching? I'll erase you, you shit."

>>149976138
Just because he didnt know about what was going on there doesn't mean he couldn't have known. He seemed to only give a shit about certain things such as Goku.

>>149976183
Wait for Toriyama to self insert himself to be the strongest god.

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>>149976170
Good. About time Big Green did something useful again.

>inb4 mafuba

>>149976122
Trunks destroyed his body.
Zamasu cast off his god form and tried to become the universe itself.

>>149975733
Zamasu...

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>>149976138
>So Zeno is not really a Christian god
nope. he's 'the king of all' aka, holds the most power and influence within the celestial bureaucracy'. basically space Huángdì

>>149976122
Everyone keeps saying Giygas. The fuck is that,

>>149976219
Because Zeno was gay for Goku before he even got to know him.

>>149976183
>inb4 zeno's dad is torirobot

>>149976211
Talking about magic, I've been hoping since Super got announced that Piccolo's powerboost will be not in ki but magic.

>>149976219
I think he was surprised, even if he didn't show it. Like anons said in past threads, Zeno wanted people to play with because everyone that knew him treated him like a bomb waiting to go off, instead of... any other being.

>>149976077
Shin is really strong. People underestimate his power.
>>149976231
He already did in an interview after bog movie
>>149976257
Villain in earth bound

>>149976219
Zeno seems to be pretty bored of everyone walking on eggshells around him, and welcomes someone not afraid to be familiar around him

>>149976257
earthbound final boss

>>149976211
Magic has more or less being around since early in the Dragon Ball series. It is however not very present in the Z era.

>>149975922
When you're right you're right.

So will Future Trunks cuck Future Trunks ?

>>149976257
It's the villain of the game Earthbound. The image >>149975513 with a distorted face and red clouds is his final form. Zamasu greatly resembles Giygas.

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>>149975512
"Don't worry Trunks, we can just make our own children now and even use our alternate selves to help us"

>>149976326
Yeah, it only becomes relevant during the Majin Boo saga. Babidi wasn't very strong physically, but he could do stuff from controlling others to sealing Majin Boo again.

Giygas-Zamasu is very similar to Earthbound's Giygas, even down to the point where Zamasu was entering other timelines. That's what Giygas was going to do, destroy everything past, future, and present.

>>149976299
>>149976211
>>149976180
>>149976163
So... If their magic is so powerful and can block a shot from a fused God, why didn't they help against fused Zamasu and why didn't they just block the shots from Black and Zamasu instead of letting Goku and Vegeta do it?

Doesn't make sense.

>>149976257
https://youtu.be/elnNX6_8h8Y?t=7m

>>149976329
It's likely future counterparts don't know each other. Trunks only came to know mai after black came.

>>149976379
because knowing a good defensive spell doesn't automatically equate to knowing good offensive spells

>>149976379
>Dragon Ball Super is full of plotholes and inconsistencies
Tell us something new.

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>>149976369
He can force choke like a mother fucker that's for sure.

>>149976379
Very few people know how to direct and animate a fight with multiple participants. That's why you see the "one guy fights while his friends narrate with mouths open wide" battles in many shonen.

I mean, the Supreme Kais are very weak compared to the Saiyans, but you can't really kill someone who's teleporting all around the place (their teleport doesn't have the limitation of Instant Transmission). Although Zamasu and Black can also teleport... so it evens out.

>zamasu was so mad he was going to become everything

>>149976424
That wasn't what I implied.

Instead of Vegeta getting blasted in the chest or Trunks getting wiped out by Fused Zamasu's Holy Wrath, they could have blocked it.

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>>149976345
"I know Torankusu, I'll miss Mooki and her brother too, or whatever her name was.......Want to fuck now?"

>>149976379
>>149976448
That attack wasn't that strong to begin with. It only flattened earth, not pulverize it.

>>149975733
Zamasu...

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Kind of felt bad for Gowasu at the end. He seems to be aware that most of what happened was due to his own negligence when it came to Zamasu. Hope we see him in the upcoming tournament with a new apprentice.

>>149975896
THE BIG GETE STAR ENABLED ME TO CHEAT DEATH

>>149976379
They didn't seem to be able to block it all completely as they were exhausted after the attacks happened. There is probably a limit to how much they can block and how often. Getting involved in the fight would have been risky.
Also a kaioshin shouldn't just throw themselves into battle recklessly, their lives are tied to other important gods, after all.

>>149976487
Yet it managed to floor 3 high powered Saiyans.

Do any of yous have the original thread while the episode was airing?

>>149976472
They blocked one of Zamasu's red rays of death, and it only prevented them from outright dying. They were knocked out of the barrier and became unconscious for a few moments. The barrier is very strong, but not invincible.

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>>149975188
Post YFW the villain actually won in a Dragon Ball arc

>>149976420
>Trunks and Mai trying to hook up their alternate selves
Cute

>>149976524
Who were exhausted. And it leveled them too.

>>149976509
If that's the case, why come at all? Supreme Kai did absolutely nothing anyway.

>>149976525
have you checked the archive ya dingus?

>>149976549
Potaras, dummy

>>149976525
Zen chan nuked all the streams and left us with mass confusion. We had nothing to discuss

>>149976487
You need to have a special kind of power to completely flatten a planet while not destroying it.

(flat earth joke)

>>149976134
nah, i men before Goku come to the future
How come Black can kill guy like Hit

>>149976503
AND NOW YOU CAN TOO

http://www.saiyanisland.com/2016/11/dragon-ball-xenoverse-2-free-dlc-ssgss-kaioken-goku-new-instructors-confirmed/

>>149976480
I doubt they will ever be free of that trauma. But the only thing now is to live for them. Which is an oddly japanese thing to do.

>>149976376
It was a cool way to see what was never really shown in EB. Made it very interesting.

>>149976549
Gowasu was set to see his own apprentice get fukt and he probably doesn't have the teleportation skills that Shin does so he needed help getting there.
They didn't go there to do anything but in the end they being there allowed for Vegeto to come in and weaken Zamasu.

>>149976524
In dragon ball energy remaining>>>>>>power levels
Even Yamcha can defeat an exhausted Whis.

>>149976566
Gowasu had them too, dummy.

>>149976299
>>149976310
>>149976332
Worth playing the game to see the connection?

Also, if Shin is so powerful, why didnt he beat Buu? Zamasu is way stronger than Buu.

>>149976606
Every Kaioshin can teleport.
Actually, I think all Shinjin (Kaio/Kaioshin race) can teleport, because Kibito can teleport, and Goku mentioned King Kai can also teleport.

>>149975733
Zabinga

>>149976622
See
>>149976610
>>149976487
That attack wasn't powerful enough to kill Supreme Kai

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>>149976590
I actually kinda liked the kids and thought Maki was really cute, I'm really depressed knowing she was just erased from existence

>>149976622
Shin is a kai. Kai are good at creating force fields, sealing people, they're not very good at direct magic.

If a Kai has to fight solo, they probably begin by putting up a barrier, and put their enemy in a jar.

>>149976606
Gowasu used the time ring to get there, and are you now saying that an oh so powerful god who can make a shield capable of stopping a blast from a fused god wouldn't be able to teleport?

Please.

>>149975887
don't worry, Burgerland isn't getting this dubbed until at least a couple of years from now so we're safe.

>>149976666
I don't think that's a fact. So I would rather assume that not all of them do.

>>149976622
Shin is weaker than Cell. He's only strong in the magic department. He could restrain a SSJ2 Gohan through invisible bonds (although he asked the others to not interrupt him), and also exploded Majin Boo's energy sphere (from a distance) before it could kill Gohan.

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>>149976685
I really liked the Earth Army soldiers, people doing their best against all odds. Really sad that they're erased, too.

>>149976610
It's time to wake up anon.

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Could android 16 kai beat zamasu?

>>149976706
You're taking it way too seriously. Kaioshins are not invincible and they each have their own set of skills.

>>149976735
>he still believes in power levels

>>149976752
sure, why not

>>149976685
I didn't like them and thought Trunks and Mai would adopt them instead having their own kids (which would be shit), so it was pretty funny and unexpected for me that they got erased.

>>149976756
You're just defending bad writing. Citation require for your own set of skills claim anon.

>>149976732
That ending was just....creepy, and dark. Was it really necessary to end it that way when you could have easily written Zeno to just fix everything? Why go out of your way to make it so grimdark?

>>149976762
Your alarm is going off anon.

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>people already have problems taking care of the unstable Zeno
>goku makes it double
Holy shit, fucking Toriyama.

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What would Superman have done differently?

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So was this the most retarded ending to any anime arc ever or what?
I mean they kidnapped an Omni-chan out of his timeline, now have two of them in their own, Future Trunks/Mai live in some random future timeline with their duplicates, the original future got completely nuked and nobody is giving any fucks about any of the points above.

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Was he a good villain?

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It's a damn shame we had all that padding and filler like content and yet we didn't get to see the simple things animated like Zamasu utilising Ki Force.

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>>149975409
You do know that this is not his style but rather how he looks in mystic form, right?
Its supposed to imply he already can use it again I guess.

>>149976841
He was the best boy

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>>149976853

>>149976830
He would spin around and reversed time

>>149976863
he seemed to be sweating and straining just trying to fly

>>149976830
The Immortal thing would mean Superman could go full power. Superman is ALWAYS holding back, so he'd probably use his mighty power to compress Zamasu into a cube and bury him in the depths of space.

>>149976793
>Why go out of your way to make it so grimdark?
I think to establish the idea that 'ask Zen-chan to take care of the villain' isn't something that can be done carelessly

>>149975458

IN THE END IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER

>>149975733
Zamasu...

>>149976831
The last two episodes are so out of place. It's like something happened in the writing process that just made them do a complete 180.

>Could have just made the Vegito fight longer and cooler
>Could have easily signified that Vegito weakened Zamasu enough for Trunks to slice him in half
>Could have just defeated Zamasu right there, but no he has to be giygas now
>Could have had Zeno fix everything, no that would be too simple
>Could have maybe put Trunks and Mai in the current timeline or make a bridge for Xenoverse
>No let's put them in another timeline just like their's except now it's even more depressing for them
What the fuck are their intentions with this plot, always take the opposite road?

>>149976788
It's common sense, do you really think they're all born the same?

>>149975458
Zeno won
He got himself a new friend

>>149976896
>Superman is ALWAYS holding back
Superman has faced loads of foes that forced him to go all out

>>149976913
This. Looking back at it I like the last two episodes since now retards just can't ask why they don't fuse or call Zeno every time there's a new villain

>>149976793
To show what a God can do since people where bitching that they weren't doing anything.

Also to show their viewpoints.

>>149975513
Anon... don't you realize that the Future Trunks of the new Black-less Future timeline could be the one who becomes a Time Patroller due to nothing happening in his world?

As for your complaint about Zeno, yeah I feel you but I think it just means there's someone above him. After all it was never stated Zeno is the one who created everything.

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>>149976982
That's what Superman wants you to think. He's such a polite man that he doesn't want the losers that fight him to feel bad.

>>149975537
>That middle finger in the end

Black Goku's more polite than that, but other than that, fucking 10/10, made me laugh, he was the hero we all needed

>>149976982
Yeah, he does a whole speech about feeling like a dinosaur in a porcelein store when he's fighting most opponents when he fights Darkseid, and then he says that Darkseid is different, Darkseid can take his full force and then Superman punches Darkseid through a city block.

>which puts superman at what... raditz tier? ;^)

>>149977033
>pre-crisis
>'just another day'

>>149975840
It's just Trunks attaining godly ki but not having a calm mind to achieve SSB
In fact, I speculate both Goku and Vegeta went through that form before achieving SSB while training under Whis

>>149976984
Pretty much this, it shows hat even though Goku and Vegeta are strong as fuck the God's are still top dog. And that even after everything they've done they have to just suck up the fact that Zeno decided to destroy a timeline and there's nothing they can do about it.

>>149977033
What do you mean? Superman nowadays has problems with just carrying an airplane bud. :^)

>>149976376
>When I predicted Zamasu becoming what he became

>That's what Giygas was going to do, destroy everything past, future, and present.

Thank god that never happened in the game.

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Is this the most controversial dragon ball arc in the history of the franchise?

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>>149977109
That doesn't make any sense

>>149975733

Zamasu...

so now that horrible subs dropped DBS and there's no batman, what's the current "better than nothing", good release to download?

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His story is a tragedy.

Now that there will be two future Trunks, does this mean one of them is gonna become Time Patrol Trunks?

>>149976480
>>149977179
Horrible subs

>>149977179
>horrible sub dropped
why

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>Future Trunks
>the villain actually won so hard they had to blow up the entire universe
>the countless maymays
>Black
>Future Mai
>the fucking back-and-forth shinanigans
>HAKAI
>Vegetto
>Goku actually jobbing so hard he couldn't win


fuck the whiners, this was the best Dragon Ball arc in a very long time, I enjoyed it from beginning to end

>>149977179
You could just watch it on Crunchyroll, that's what Horriblesubs stole for their releases.

I use Livestreamer on Crunchyroll to pipe their stream into my media player

i just like that goku is a complete asshole

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>there are people out there who think Super is super

>>149977033
>All of those planets inhabitants aren't already dead due to the countless problems that arise from him moving them

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>>149975733

>>149977210
>>149977227

there's no horrible sub to be found in nyaa

>>149977230
this my man, it was such a fucking enjoyable ride and it brought me back into DB so hard

how can the next sagas even hold up?

>>149977179
kami fansubs is somewhat decent

>>149977179
Yu-Gi-Oh! Arc-V

It's the yugioh verison of DBS and has about the same amount of disappointment

>>149977199
Yes. Probably. One Trunks stays at home protecting the Earth, and the other one travels through time and space.

This arc even explains why the Kai of Time likes him so much, he's such a polite fellow when he's around Kai's and gods.

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>>149977179
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=873112

>>149977244
Superman is doing it so quickly that it'll just be a blink to them, they won't even notice. Physics doesn't have enough time to catch up.

>>149977123
It's very polarizing, that's for sure

Personally it was my favorite in the entire franchise, even though I wasn't a fan of the DELETE EVERYTHING ending

>>149977230
This. A lot more fun to watch than Androids and all of GT

>>149977280
>1 seed

still looks like the best option, thanks

The point of this saga is that time-travelling is forbidden for a reason, radicalism only leads to bad things and don't fuck with Zen-chan.

>>149977246
They take a while to post the episode. Or you can try any other CR rip

>>149977285
>physics doesn't have time to catch up

The planets can't spin with a chain attached to them. Everyone is dead.

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Why did he leave us so soon?

>>149977294
zeno ending is better than nakama sword of bullshit

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>>149977337
Don't forget that ningens are a mistake!

>>149976964
>inb4 they ended it like this so that the other Future Trunks can become a Time Patroller and Xenoverse can become canon

Those kids are fucking dead, trunks couldn't save them

The last bit of life any of those people had was giving their hero trunks energy to defeat the monster that destroyed their world.

Then the sky turned into his twisted image, and as they are surrounded by his deranged laughter, a beam from above murders them. And that's it, no revival, no second chances, they're fucking dead.

I thought this was a kid's show

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>>149975922

I'll miss you ZAMAS

>>149977377
That's my guess.

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>>149977366
>>149977370
Rest in peace sweet prince

>>149977377
that can't be
he's weak pussy as TP

>>149977388
please 1920x1080 version, it makes for a fantastic wallpaper

nev3r 4get ;_;

>>149977385
That isn't even the worst thing anon
You know how each universe has its own after-life?
Well, Zeno erased it.
Those kids are just gone, they aren't even in the after-life, they are just completely fucking gone.

>>149977364
Mate, the chain is attached, pulled through the universe, and detached before it even makes a difference

>evil goku and green kai end up becoming some of the best villains in the entire franchise

Fucking how does Toriyama do it?

>>149977425
No I mean, the Future Trunks who never fought Black becomes TP. The one who fought Black instead will just live with Mai, forever tormented by his failure.

>>149977453
STANDING

>>149975733
Zamasu...

>>149977429
jesus christ

well, they got to spend about 5 minutes in the line at yenma's place to contemplate their deaths before the afterlife was erased, so there's that

>>149977440
By finally giving villains some motivation beyond "IMMA STRONG GONNA KILL EVERYONE BECAUSE I CAN".

>>149977511
That literally was his motivation though.

If he was serious he would have dealt with trunks and the future world quickly. Instead he wanted to fight the saiyans and show superiority.

Just like the other villains.

>>149977533
>/a/ - anime and mango
fuck off
>>>/v/

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>>149976883

>>149977440

I think they stand out so much because most of the villains in DB history have just been like asshole monsters

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>>149977498
>5 minutes in the line at yenma's place to contemplate their deaths
You mean instead of simply being erased, the fact that Trunks failed had some time to sink in?

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>>149977385
>>149977429
>>149977498
>>149977588

God this arc was so great it brings tears of joy to my eyes. Thank you based Zamasu.

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It is funny that almost all the Trunksposters are gone after the episode ended.
I kinda feel bad for them, they were given everything just for it to be ripped away from them.

Very few people expected an *evil* Kai, and I'm sure as hell most of us didn't expect the idea of an *evil goku* to be this damn good, Black literally stole the fucking show the moment he appeared.

Further proof that even the dumbest of ideas can be good, it all depends on execution.

>>149977681
>they were given everything just for it to be ripped away from them.
not everything, they still have carefree 4some orgies with their twinsies.

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>>149977683
Yeah man, when I learnt of this saga I was like ''top kek they ran out ideas so much they are just doing Dark Goku now''

I... I didn't expect all of this.

>Future Trunk's timeline is a write-off
>Trunks and Mai not living in the present with people who know/accept them (even their younger selves)
>Decides to go to a future-past to live with doppelgangers who have no idea of what transpired

Amazing life choices.

>>149977723
Let's bring present Mai and Trunks into it too

>>149975252
What was Zeno going to do if Goku didn't invite him to his timeline? The entire multiverse of Trunks' timeline is gone, yet somehow Goku and Trunks are still able to travel there, and Zeno seems to be just floating in space, for what seems to for eternity.

>>149977059
>retard picking 1 version of superman
He also punched dimensions, lifted a book that weighs infinity and hold a black hole in his hand.
Kys

chapter 18
http://www.yuncomics.com/archives/1824070
>>149975188

>>149975733
zamasu...

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>>149977681

>>149977763
And he can still be defeated by Batman.

Sorry lad but superman is a has been.

>>149977802
heh, future trunks NEVER gets a full happy ending

>>149977741
It was for the best.

Do you really want Future Trunks to be a main character with Goku and Vegeta? No thank you.

>>149976890
Given he was piccolo it looks like they were training again.

I'm not even a gohanfag, I just want to see another character rise to the table. And gohan realising that like trunks, he'll be fucked without Goku and Vegeta when they inevitably pass away.

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>>149977683
>>149977732
>dat smug as fuck demeanor.
>dat fashionable turtleneck
>turns ssj pink
>Rocks it like its no ones business and actually looks dapper as fuck.
>BTFO both Goku and Vegeta like it is nothing
>Always smiles and never loses his composure.
He had no right to be this based, but the absolute madgod actually made his retarded concept work.

Outside observer here - are people not supremely pissed off at how abruptly the series ended, without any of the main characters having to do anything to kill the big baddie at the end?

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>>149977767

>the fucking no kiss shit is canon

TORIYAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>149977825
Batman has never defeated him in canon.
Need I remind you what a pistol did to Goku?

so who the fuck WAS Black?

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I can't help but notice how good this thread is now that the power level autists are gone
Regardless, current rankings

Zeno and Zeno > Grand Priest > Zeno's Attendants > Vados > Whis > Beerus > Champa > Blue Vegito > Hit > Merged Zamasu > Goku Black = Goku > Vegeta > Future Trunks > Future Zamasu > etc...

And before you say anything, Vegito was clearly dominating and was about to land the finishing blow before the fusion ran out.
So no, Trunks isn't stronger than Zamasu or Vegito, he simply dealt the finishing blow.

>>149977907
Zamasu from some random timeline don't think too hard about it.

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I hope they end up going to Mr Popo's home planet in a future episode.

A planet of insensitive black racial stereotypes being portrayed innocently in such a way that only the Japanese can get away with.

>>149977741
>They get to live in a random timeline with no one bothering them and where they can fuck all the time
I don't see the issue here. And also they can just tell their alt selves what happened.

>>149977898
I loved the saga but the ending was kind of weird
Don't fuck with the King of Everything I guess

>>149977927
>Zeno's Attendant
they're going to turn out to be nothing but jobbers

>Zeno doesn't transcend time and alternate universes
>There are other Zenos in other timelines
I just expected the King of All to be more powerful than this. Omnipresent and being the same person, even in other timelines was just something I thought Zeno was capable of. I was kind disappointed when he asked who Goku was from Trunks' timeline.

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>>149977763
>He also punched dimensions, lifted a book that weighs infinity and hold a black hole in his hand.
is that all?

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>>149977664

HE MAKES ME SO PROUD

>>149977907
Zamasu from his the main timeline that goku defeated but became a paradox copy after beerus killed Zamasu because he traveled to the future and was protected by the time ring.

Basically adding time travel to the story adds a ton of confusing bullshit that is better to just ignore.

>>149977864
why not

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>>149977904
>Batman has never defeated him in canon.
>Canon in comics

>>149977927
We don't know enough about.

Why is Vados above Whis?

Vegeta was stronger than Goku Black (But Goku was stronger than Vegeta so it doesn't really make much sense)

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>>149977904
>comic books
>Canon

They always have some dimension warping bullshit happen.

>need I remind you what a gun did to goku?
Yeah, nothing...

>>149977907
Zamasu from a timeline in which Goku and his family are dead. How he exists at all is a mystery, though.
>Trunks travels back in time because of Black
>Goku fights Zamasu because Trunks arrived
>Zamasu becomes black because Goku fought him
>Black exists because of Black

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>>149977767

>when you are chilling in your log cabin and suddenly you hear MUFFLED NINGENS IN THE DISTANCE

>>149977927

>So no, Trunks isn't stronger than Zamasu or Vegito, he simply dealt the finishing blow.

I can't believe that anybody ever even thought this
literally the exact same thing happened in the Buu arc do people think base form Goku is stronger than Vegito too?

Post your favorite Zamasu-arc memes

>>149977976
He has more feats, but that anon took 1 version of Superman and put him on Raditz level, so I had to correct his ass

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>>149977904
Who cares about a pistol?
I bet a middleaged man could beat superman with only his fists. :^)

>>149978009
Well, simply because Vados stated she's stronger and she also was Whis's teacher

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Not even a Gohanfag but just seeing Future Trunks see a confident Gohan wave him off one final time.

That was sad.

>>149975513
>Giygas is beaten by Ninten
>Zamasu is beaten by Ningen

Why is Vegeta such a goddamn disgrace to his race?

Goku and Trunks both got loving Chinese waifus while he chose a slut.

>>149978056
Ah, sorry then. I completely forgot.

>>149978035
>How he exists at all is a mystery, though
It's not, he literally says it

>it's all thanks to this ring, as long as I wear it I'm uneffected to anything you do to my past self

>>149977904
>Batman has never defeated him in canon.
oh, so if we're going off canon then you have superbro, who was depowered as fuck and got himself killed, and pre-flashpoint superman who just the other week was getting trounced by Doomsday and bet everything on sending him through a portal because he couldn't win

>>149977927
Grand priest is Whis father

>>149978040
lol

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>>149978048
>>149978033

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>>149978009
>Vegeta was stronger than Goku Black
>Implying
He completely shut them down and he didn't even have to lift a finger to do it.

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>>149978043

>>149978069
>both are beaten by everyone sharing their hopes and prayers with the hero

>>149978119
Yeah and I'm still gonna call him that until they state his actual name

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>>149978094
>as long as I wear it I'm uneffected to anything you do to my past self
But that comment makes no sense. Given what was established about timesplits already, why would killing past Zamasu do anything to affect him? There'd be a timesplit, and they are then completely different entities, with one of them now dead.

>>149977974
Wait until Zeno's father is introduced.

>>149978125
Didnt you just mention canon anon? why are you posting non-canon things? ;^)

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>>149978043

>>149977802
Goddamn, that just hurts.
>tries to save the future by time travel and medicating Goku
>ends up making split timelines and allowed a new threat to come back in time
>trains so hard, but gets fucked over by his dad's pride, then later gets shot in the chest
>younger version of his mentor saves the day so not all bad
>years later while trying to bring back humanity some asshole who looks like Goku fucks it all up
>then the Zumatsu saga happens
>everything, just everything and everyone you loved, cared for, and protect gone
>He couldn't keep his promise to Gohan

>>149978128
Then why was it Goku = Goku Black? Instead of Goku Black > Goku = Vegeta?

>>149978108
Yes there are many versions of Superman, that's why I like to think that Goku is stronger than 60%(?) of the existing Supermen.

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>>149976480
>I'll miss Mooki and her brother too, or whatever her name was
>Want to fuck now?

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>>149978043

>>149977998
>Basically adding time travel to the story adds a ton of confusing bullshit that is better to just ignore.

Hell, there is a reason not even gods are allowed to time-travel
This shit just fucks things up in the DB world

>>149977949
>a planet made out of a watermelon
>fried chicken is their unique delicacy
>basketball courts as temples
>cotton fields everywhere
>their king is a chimp
>mugging is a sport

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>tfw getting excited about Super again now that there's a glimmer of hope

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>>149978040
>>when you are chilling in your log cabin and suddenly you hear ANGRY TRUNKS NOISES IN THE DISTANCE.
FTFY

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I'm vegin, prince of all sans.

Time to migrate to new thread soon:
>>149975220
>>149975220
>>149975220
>>149975220

So how many timelines are there now? 6, right? 7th if counting the one Future Trunks will be going to now.

>>149978234
khhk khh hkhhk kkkhh

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>>149978144

Because a god of destruction's "hakai" isn't just "killing someone". Beerus said so himself.

It was meant to completely erase him everywhere from every time, but the time ring protected him.

>>149978178
Because that list is stupid too.
Black is Goku's hardcounter, no matter how strong Goku may become when he fights him, Black will just get an even bigger power boost then usual.

>>149977246
the bot broke is all

>>149978256
>>>149975220 →
>310 posts

fuck off nigger

F Trunks didn't even bother asking Whis if he can prevent his timeline from being destroyed, the Zeno of his alternate timeline to recreate or repair his multiverse or if the Super Dragon Balls are able to. He just gave up. He's not my F Trunks that I know. The F Trunks I know wasn't a quitter. Even Xenoverse 2 Alternate F Trunks didn't punk out like a little bitch and saved F Gohan despite the problems it would have caused and the fact he wouldn't be able to return to the Time patrollers.

>>149978256
Too soon, retard.

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>when you realize the opening theme is a spoiler to what happens next

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>>149978230
Tfw the next episode preview had gohan wearing those stupid fucking glasses again.

>>149978340
Shit that reminds me, will we finally be getting a new opening?

>>149978320
I doubt even the super dragon balls have the power to restore a timeline, or else Whis would tell them.

>>149977960
Yeah! What would be the problem there? Or is it there some rule about living in hiding?

Because that would be REALLY fucked up.

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>>149978009

>Vegeta was stronger than Goku Black

This makes me mad.

>>149978315
>>149978327
just posting that guy's thread so we don't need to open another.

>>149978158
I imagine he still does this before remembering that Zamasu is dead.

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>>149978381
Bravo Toriyama

>>149978374
There's no rule about hiding, or else F Trunks would avoid kid Trunks too everytime he went to the present timeline.

>>149978400
what's this from?

>>149978417
b-b-but my Back To The Future rules of time travel ;_;

Will you stay subscribed to Gowasu's GodTube channel now that he is returning to universe 10?

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>Zamasu's hatred for Ningens literally filled the entire universe and be seen from everyone, everywhere, even from other timeline multiverses.
Zamasu is the ultimate racist. I want to hate him, but his hatred for all life is just so admirable. It literally transcends timelines.

>>149978178
It's confirmed that Black is the strongest fighter in the series outside of characters who are Beerus level and beyond.

>>149978359
Unless they don't change the song, I hope not.

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>>149978381

>how the fuck did you do that?
>fuck i dunno muh rage or something

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>>149977825
>he can still be defeated by Batman.
Batman is nothing but a manlet. Just like Vegeta

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlLtJq-apg0

>>149977976
Who is this God level character?