Why do Japs sleep on the floor? Why do they hate beds?

>>149908106
Because they didn't even have European beds until 65 years ago.

They're poor as fuck so they don't have beds and conserve space. They still even love sitting on the fucking floor and only have some low ass tables.

>>149908106
I've always wondered about this too. Maybe it's softer with the mat flooring, but you'd think that a European style bed would be more comfortable. Unless space really is that serious an issue.

Most nips sleep on proper beds now it's just an anime meme like the protags family running a Japanese sweets shop.

It's because the tatami makes sleeping on the floor super comfy. And they can use that space for other things since they live in super small apartments.

How else are you going to get enormous house spiders into your mouth and hair, do you have a better suggestion?

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>>149909334
>How else are you going to get enormous house spiders into your mouth

>>149909334
Nigga what are you talking about

>>149908377
Sitting on the floor actually isn't bad if you have carpet and some kind of cushion. The only problem is when you don't have low ass tables.

>>149908106

slept for a year on the floor during my time in japan. I miss it, to be honest.

>>149909124
>Unless space really is that serious an issue.
It is, especially if you live in an apartment in the city. Think Tatami Galaxy, a 4.5 tatami mat room (which is on the small side but fairly common) is less than 7 square meters. A western style bed's going to take up like 1/4 of the room.

I thought like 90% of people in Japan's rural areas used Western style housing and thus furniture?
Series where they live in Tokyo always have normal beds and dinner tables.

I had to sleep on a futon for a little while when my old bed broke. It was pretty comfy, but definitely not ideal here in Texas where there's always bugs getting in the house.

This>>149908377
is the correct answer.

You wake up, fold your futon, put it in the wardrobe, and thus you have much more space.

>>149908377
>3th potential of the world
>poor

>>149910700
>Country is rich
>Therefor everyone who lives in the country much be rich

Tatami mats are pretty comfy.

>>149909466
You should realize that you actually eat a spider every week or so when sleeping.

>>149912268
You should realize that's a myth.

>>149912307
>r-right, g-guys?

>>149912307
It's a myth you eat 1 a week or 7 a year.

That number is far far to low.

There is hundreds of thousands of microscopic spiders on your eyelid hairs alone, you swallow a couple dozen every time you swallow. They are in your mouth now.

Who cares though?

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>>149912307
Nice fucking try, spider.

>no bed to save space
You can store a ton of shit under your bed.
Meanwhile, if you wanna put your futon away to use that extra space, you'll need a place to store it anyway.

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All of Japan's bed factories were destroyed in WW2, and by an obscure part of the peace treaty of San Francisco, they are not allowed to build new ones.

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>>149912307

>>149909334
>not sleeping on the floor without a Lizardo to eat the spiders

>>149908106
beds are a literal waste of space. Futons make a lot more sense.

>>149908106
Looks comfy, but looks like you'd get more bed bugs

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>>149914282
are you implying macarthur had some sort of no bed fetish?

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>>149914869
>using floor space at all
>not using a superior hammock
>not being comfy supreme

Get on my level compadres

>>149915050
>A hammock
>In doors
>Saving any space at all
What is hanging from? The air? Because I can't find a hammock that doesn't come with a sex swing looking stand.

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>>149912307
They come out at night time and mate.

>>149908304
What? Western architecture was introduced long before 65 years ago.
How can this board discuss so much Weeb shit so casually while being so utterly ignorant of what the Meiji restoration was.

How is this thread /a/ related?

>>149915050
miyako?

>>149908106

Futons are god tier for your back, not to mention being able to just fold the entire thing and put it away whenever you are not using it.

>>149915161
Because newfags think jp is the tohou and idol board

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>>149915123

Get a stud detector nigga. Despite what the name might suggest, it's not merely to augment your gaydar. It also finds the framing timber in the walls, and the ceiling joists.

Or, depending on the construction of your domicile, just attach it to exposed joists.

>>149908106
more and more families switch over to western beds, only when they have not a lot of money or still live in traditional japanese houses that they use futons
>source
anime

I sleep on the floor. I've done so ever since my air mattress popped and I'm too cheap to buy a new one.

It's fucking awful. IF you can maintain a neutral position, it's good for your back, but having any kind of pillow fucks up your spine still. You basically need no cushioning and going on your sides will cause lack of circulation to your extremities. I regularly wake up unable to feel my goddamn arms and legs.

You also cannot get restorative effects from sleep, at all. I sleep 6 hours and it feels like an 8 hour workday. Mentally, physically exhausted fighting posture and circulations all night while you're unconscious.

Soft, elevated beds might be shit but the Japs don't know any better.

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>>149909334
>How else are you going to get enormous house spiders into your mouth and hair?
Yes please.

>sleep on just a mattress on the floor with a 'box' around it so the mattress doesn't move around
>wake up refreshed and never have to drink coffee
>rest of my family sleeps on mattresses on box springs in their homes
>they all wake up groggy and have to drink coffee to do anything

The Japanese have the right idea.

>>149916735
That's actually a side effect of drinking coffee. Its addictive and you get legit withdrawal symptoms,

>>149917687
>withdrawal symptoms
They're Really mild, its very easy to just stop drinking coffee for a week.

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Why do japs walk around their houses without shoes on? Do they want to get their feet dirty?

>>149918651
Why would they care about that?
They dont use feet to eat.

>>149908106
Oh fuck, I do this with my cat too. Fat ass son of a bitch hates moving.

>>149918994
>im anti-social female who lets pets rule over me
get a dog

>>149919071
I have a dog. Also, a penis. I don't mind my cat sleeping on my bed, it's just a pain when he gets there first and sits right in the middle.

>>149909440
Don't worry a bed doesnt save you from that.

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>>149918990

I don't use the floor to eat either.

>>149912268
Australiacunt pls

>>149912268
http://www.burkemuseum.org/blog/myth-you-swallow-spiders-your-sleep

>>149912268
I dont sleep with my mouth open

>>149910700
>3th
Good job

>>149909124
No that shit is uncomfortable as fuck, you sink immediately to the ground

>>149916378
anon go steal people's newspapers till you can sleep on them

>>149915146
>architecture
>furniture

Hmmm

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>>149912268
>yfw you realize that's why he wears the mask

>>149912405
p sure those are mites, not spiders

>>149922456
what the fuck is the science behind this

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>>149908106
I used to do it when I lived in my grandma's house as a kid
there wasn't enough room for all of me and my siblings to have beds so we'd lay one big futon and sleep, and in the mornings fold it up into the cupboard

>>149915050
I have a hammock but it makes the room look more like a homeless den. I could get the flat rope ones but those are too easy to flip and is too cold.

>>149923912
>what the fuck is the science behind this
people will give you money trough kickstarter before you make a working prototype
t. solar roadways

>>149915145
Who the fuck sleeps at night?

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>>149908106
Because Westerners are stupid, they seem to think that the bed is originated in Europe. And even though they see everyday china cartoon, they can't even notice that beds are commonly used in modern Japan.

>>149925493
That looks like a bed drawn by a guy who has never seen a bed.

>>149925528

It's probably a box spring and a mattress without a frame. That's how I have my bed set up at home. The low headboard is kind of stupid, though.

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>>149918651
>walk around house with shoes on
>floor gets even dirtier
Are you retarded? I will beat your fucking ass if you dare come into my house and don't take your shoes off. My floors are PRISTINE.

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>>149925554
>box spring
>on the ground

>>149908106
Part of it is cultural preferences, the other part is many Japanese live in very small apartments.

>>149925528
There are few people who have never slept in bed in modern Japan. For Japanese, it is usual for Japanese to sleep in bed other than narrow apartments or pure Japanese rooms.

>>149908106
The same reason I sleep in the couch! It's the ideal environment for mass production of doujinshi.

tatami floor + futon is comfy though

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>>149923912

The idea, as I understood it, was to put a miniature wind turbine in a mask, such that you could generate electricity by breathing, allowing you to charge your phone while looking like bane.

Unfortunately, that's fucking stupid.

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>>149908377
>what is a twin-size mattress
You can sit on the bed.
You can put shit under the bed.
Bed is very narrow.
Bed is very cheap.

What the fuck are they doing?

>>149908106
because gaijins put fucking shoes in their room

no wonder they need a table to climb up to get some sleep

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>>149908106
I stayed in New York in a super tiny apartment for a few months and was actually considering getting myself a Japanese futon thing just to have more space at my place, since I literally could not fit my bed and my PC in my bedroom at the same time.

I figured they couldn't be that bad or that uncomfy since lots of Japs do it, and it'd save me a shit tonne of space. I asked /jp/ about it though and they said that every so often you have to take it outside and beat the ever loving shit out of it and let it sun bathe, or it'll go bad. That killed the idea of getting one for me though so I threw that idea out the window.

I had to settle for just setting up my PC in my small living room area instead.

>>149909518
Yes it is. It's fucking awful.

>>149925859
>gaijins put fucking shoes in their room
Only americans do that

That's because the room in Japan is not an unhygienic environment covered with dog's poo and mud like an American room.

>>149908106
My grandparents sleep on the floor, It was common during their time

>>149909251
This.

>>149925879
how is that any worse than washing your sheets?

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>1978+38
>not sleeping in a water bed

>>149912342
Yes it is. IIRC, the guy who wrote it was trying to sell a book of random, weird facts and he made it up on the spot because money.

>>149925983
airbeds>waterbeds
waterbeds are annoying to get out of

>>149925982
I throw my sheets in a washing machine, not take them outside to beat up before hanging it to dry you dense cunt.

>>149925916
I don't know. I live in the Netherlands immigrant origin. Yes yes, I know, I'm a shitskin and while my family doesn't do that, I've seen enough native families do it. Not all of them, but some. It kind of depends on who you visit, but it certainly isn't just Americans doing this shit.

>Be ex-JEt
>Anime portrays it as anime girls crawling into bed in the middle of the night
>What it actually is having to move the table, get the futon out of the cupboard, laying it all down
>Middle of the night you wake up cold because there's no weight in the corners like you would have in a proper raised western bed
I forget how many times I just grabbed a blanket and slept on the floor at night.

>>149925916
Americans are wearing shoes even when they are fucking. I can guess it cuz I have watched thier porn.

>>149925983
I remember back in the 90's when everybody was memeing about water beds and how amazing and cool they were. Like how it was a trope in television for the cool kid to have a water bed.

Haven't heard jack shit about water beds since though, so it really makes me think.

>>149914958
McArthur is among the earliest American SJW though.
He have a loli fetish, having a little mistress locked inside a hotel, forbidden to wander out like how liberals wanted to control their minorities.
And he hated porn, forbidding Japan to do so, leading to Japanese forced to pull all their evasive shit just to protect their culture from that SJW little snot.

>>149915230
>domicile

I had a good giggle m8

>>149925931

This. When my great great grandfather died he was outside making sure that the chickens were jailed properly for the night. He died there and the woman was unable to drag him inside, so she just took some blankets and slept with his body until the sun rose.

>>149925982
cuz he's gotta bring it outside and beat the shit out of it and let it sit in the sun.

pretty different from washing sheets really. tf is he going to do that in nyc without looking like a maniac?

>>149926088
What the fuck if anything McArthur is a /pol/tard dream.

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>>149918651
You savage

>>149925983

kek I had forgotten about water beds. I burglar houses for a living and I once knifed a water bed back in the 98. Best part is that I know someone who knows the owner of that house, and he told me that the dude was always talking about the fucking water bed because he really liked it. That is, until I knifed it.

>>149910581
I just leave my futon on the floor, mostly because I have filled my wardrobe with things.

>>149926184
>implying you dont see crazier shit everyday in any city

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>>149918651
It took until WW1 until we gave Japs the technology to make bricks. They seriously did not know how to mix clay and water then furnace it.

It will probably take them until WW3 for us to give them the technology to make house mats.

>>149926201
Well that's just mean.

>>149926201
>burglar houses for a living
Why don't you try getting a real job?

>>149926251
>We're the Wet Bandits!

>>149926201
Was this in Illinois or California?

>>149926185
He did kill a lot of shitskin but his morality points toward far left.

>>149926243
House mats don't get off the nasty germs out you mong

>>149926006
You don't have to beat the shit out of them, and at less than 10kyen it's not a massive loss if one goes bad.

>>149926031
>>Middle of the night you wake up cold because there's no weight in the corners like you would have in a proper raised western bed
You've effectively got a fucking duvet on top of you. The entire thing is weight.
I wake up in the morning warm and comfy as fuck. Getting up is a hassle.

>>149915188
This. Office job but zero back pain thanks to a cheap 4 layer cotton futon.

>>149926268

No, not in the US.

>>149926074
>water beds stop being in movies
>everyone cease talking about or buying them

Really puts thoughts inside my head as well

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tbf op pic is clearly showing tatami room, 和室 so it's natural to sleep in futon, tatami is softer when compared to western flooring, they arent like carpeting tho

every 和室 has dedicated space for storing futon, 押し入れ where you can also hide your fap materials and hentai magazine so it's not like our room size is too small as we can just clear it and put bed there
>tatami - futon
>flooring - bed
this is just so right and otherwise it will trigger japanese autism

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>>149926268
>>149926201
>>149926326
>tfw literally just got off the phone with my mother to confirm what state and what year this happened to us
Not even joking but back in 1993, the exact same shit happened to us. We went out to the movie theater and when we came back home, we found that somebody had broken into our house and knifed our water bed.

I'm glad it wasn't you who did it, anon.

>Be young japanese boy
>Wet dream
>Ruin glorious japanese futon and ohaio mat

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>>149926274
He was an authoritarian with a god complex. It's not a left/right thing.

Fun fact: He attacked a group of out of work WWI veterans marching on Washington during the depression to get their service bonuses paid early. He had them gassed and assaulted with bayonets while Patton charged on horse and tank.

A little boy died.

>>149926390
>he leaks onto his bed

>>149926483
>He was an authoritarian with a god complex.

That's basically what a SJW is.

>>149926510
Shut up nerd

>>149926369

kek

>>149908106
>/a/: anime, manga & japanese interior decor

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>>149908106
I've been sleeping on the floor for the past 10-years or so. To put it bluntly I cannot sleep on soft surfaces anymore, it's not comfy at all and waking up is an ass.

On the other hand I've never ever dragged my futon outside to the sun and beat it. The insides are dead and it's basically just the outer fabrics against the floor, so finding a proper position is vital.

>>149926243
>They seriously did not know how to mix clay and water then furnace it.

It wasn't until recently that we (the Europeans and westerners) learned how to make concrete-base as good as the Romans did about ~2000-years ago.

>>149926576
>he doesnt like off-topic threads

>>149926602
>It wasn't until recently that we (the Europeans and westerners) learned how to make concrete-base as good as the Romans did about ~2000-years ago
This is fucking mindblowing.

Have we worked out the secret of Greek Fire yet?

>>149926631
not the ones that attract blogposters

>>149926634
>Have we worked out the secret of Greek Fire yet?

>what is napalm?

>>149926602
true, ppl who think that westerners=best at everything ever are historically ignorant. 1000 years ago, most europeans were literal barbarians

>>149926634
No, but technically we haven't learned the secret to their concrete either.

We can replicate the effects, but not the actual substance itself.

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>decided to try out a futon last year in new apartment because weeb and why the fuck not
>it was cheaper than a bed anyway

You get used to it, but I'm honestly not a fan. Disclaimer: I bought a 3-in instead of a 6, but sleeping on the floor was just kind of uncomfortable as it is, not sure a comfier futon would have made much of a difference. It's pretty cool when you have guests, though.

>>149926676
like another anon said, tatami mats are softer than normal floors

>>149926230

Fair enough lmao you got me. but still taking that shit outside if you didnt have a balcony sounds like a pain.

Do japs really live in paper houses and sleep on the floor or is it just an anime meme?

>>149926676
>>149926703
>tfw live in a quite thickly carpeted apartment
Assuming by normal floors you mean just your basic hardwood floors.
I wonder how a futon would feel here.

>>149926662
>>what is napalm?
Not Greek Fire. It's a completely different compound.

>>149926602
>>149926796
What's so good about the way Romans make concrete bases, and what's so good about Greek fire?

>>149926751
In Japan at least you can buy thin mattresses for putting under futons.
I had to get one because I have a hard floor. The futon alone was murder for my back. The mattress is only about an inch thick but it is perfectly fine now.

>>149926824
Our concrete needs reinforcing with metal sticks, the Roman concrete does not.

>>149926634

We're still not sure what Greek Fire even is

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>>149926664
>believing greek propaganda

>>149926552
Shut up SJW

>>149926824
>What's so good about the way Romans make concrete bases
Some of their structures are still fucking standing.

>what's so good about Greek fire?
Nothing really, except the fact they managed to produce the shit and we don't know how.

>>149926749
Can you imagine only 1 or 0? There are most things in Europe and the United States in Japan, but it is only that there are many things only in Japan at the same time.

I haven't slept in a bed in years. Usually just throw a blanket on the floor and sleep on that. Being able to sleep anywhere is a valuable skill and a bed is such a pain in the ass to move.

>>149926991
>Sleeping on the floor
Sounds like a recipe for respiratory issues down the road from breathing in all that dust.

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>>149926751
You can get used to sleeping with a futon directly on a hardwood floor. Took me some months until I didn't notice it anymore. At the beginning I had to sleep like pic related because it hurt my hips too much. But now I can sleep in any position I want.

>>149926991
Are you a sniper or something?

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>>149926888
Mon Dieu, medieval architecture is gorgeous.

>>149926949
>Some of their structures are still fucking standing.
A lot have been maintained, but a lot more were cannibalized. The Coliseum for example is still standing despite it basically having stone and bronze clamps torn out. The thing more or less stood on it's own for a few hundred years.

>>149926888
>Carolingian Renaissance
You know Charlemagne's entire deal was "we wuz empers 'n shiet", right?

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In the morning I woke up from the futon and I became a kawaii high school girl in Japan.

>>149922511
mites are a kind of spider dumbass

>>149927131
That's a tiny room, but somehow if teels like the house itself is really big.

>>149927131
And then you notice the placement of that stack of shelves and the wardrobe.

>>149909580
i've been sleeping on the floor for a few years now
and not be the nips do it.

I feel uncomfortable sleeping in my bed with my body pillows, if i have a schizo attack i tend to think they are real. it fucking hurts so bad when i realize it, but it's so fucking comfy when i don't

>>149927143
this is like saying humans are a kind of rodent

>>149926949
>Some of their structures are still fucking standing.
If they were in Japan with earthquakes abnormally, they would not have been left.

>>149927189
no, that's like saying humans are a kind of primate, which we fucking are.

>>149927169
Good catch but I seen a lot of rooms irl just like that.
According to friends, they only need one door open.

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>>149927078
>G-guys? W-we're Romans, right?

>>149927146
>That's a tiny room
mate my bedroom is like a third of that
you don't know what tiny is

>>149927198
>there are no earthquakes in Italy
u wot

>>149927198
Italy just lost 2 entire villages to earthquakes this year, think they were just in the 6 range.

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>>149927198
Bruh. Earthquakes are common in the Mediterranean in general, and that's pretty much the craddle of civilization.

>>149927270
7% of the world's active volcanoes are gathered in Japan. It is often said that Japanese architecture is focusing on earthquake resistance.

>>149927198
Yeah, good thing there are no earthquakes in Italy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_earthquakes_in_Italy

>>149926074
Because they were really bad for you back/spine.

>>149915188
I lived in Okinawa (military family) when I was a kid and slept on a futon at a friend's. Started having back pain a few years back and ordered a futon and buckwheat seed pillow. I sleep like a baby and my back never hurts anymore.

>>149926074
Really joggin my noggin

>>149926667
Are you fucking kidding me? We really can't figure out how concrete as good as people 2000 years ago? Why?

>>149908106
Fuck you cat. I'm picking you up until I get settled and then you can resnuggle and use my balls as a pillow. I miss you Shadow. ;-;

>>149918651
>wearing shoes indoors
do you want to get athlete's foot or something. cant even imagine myself wearing shoes all day except when I sleep or shower

>>149908106
Bed is too expensivve for japanese.

>>149925449
I did, once. Accidently.

>>149927653
So..you imagine wearing them all day while you shower and sleep or you only wear them while you shower and sleep.

>>149927644
Because your ancestors burned the fucking scroll the recipe was on.

>>149927644
Concrete without rebar and reinforcement has little meaning.

>>149926876
you sure it's not a brand of spicy chips mate? I reckon the facts became skewed and they just tossed bags of prometheus crisps onto hungry enemy ships, and well, you get the idea

>>149927644

We can, he's just memeing you, Roman concrete uses the ashes originated by Vesuvius eruptions, it was called Pozzolan Concrete. The technology to make this was lost for 2000 years due the fall of the Roman empire, and concrete was only rediscovered by the 18th century.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pozzolan

t. civil engineer

>>149927739
Civilization is to take off your shoes.
It is same as living in a cave such as a house where you live without taking off your shoes.

>>149927745
romans were just too stupid to make unburnable paper!!!

>>149927210
Spider is a very specific term, though. Mites are arachnids, not spiders.

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>>149926201
>I burglar houses for a living

>>149928020
well he's certainly not doing it for a killing

>>149928285
He could be doing it because it's thrilling.

>>149909251
This.

The only time I've ever slept on a futon in Japan is when staying at people's houses and it was basically no different to somebody giving you an airbed in the west. Japan is really westernised and apart from the wacky things people intentionally look out for because that's what they go out looking for, it's not that different to what you'll find in most Western countries in terms of anemities.

>>149928501
He does it because he's willing

>>149928610
Maybe it does help him with the billing

>>149908106
I've seen this thread a million times before.

>>149928650
I'm actually a political campaigner and I use it for shilling

>>149928657
Unlike Generals and template thread, right?

>>149928672
Keep rhyming while my seed is spilling.

Sauce of OPs picture?

>>149928693
my memes are over filling.

>>149928756
>>>/wsr/

>>149928763
Shut up or I'll give you a grilling.

>>149928763
Hopefully he didn't spill it on his nan's twilling

>>149928795
Faggot, your waifu's vagina I will be drilling

This brought back horrible memories of sharing a single room with all four of my bothers. We took turns sleeping on the bed and floor. My family bought some weird ass foldable chair that turns into a bed. It was not comfy that I would sleep on the couch in the living room. Thank fuck it was only for a month.

>>149928844
Do so and blood will be a spilling.

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