Who's your favorite Papika?
please explain the last episode /a/
>Senpai changed a lot
>CCN doesn't like it
>entering Pi is fucked up because of her mental state
>CCN sees different aspects of PPk and has a fun time with all of them
>Probably realises that she was a bitch by wanting to change Senpai back even though she looked a lot more happy
>Smartika made a fuckign rocket, genius confirmed
>YYK get's fucked over by KKK, inb4 changing sides
>it's revealed that Mimi is actually a woman Salt knows
I will not rest until Iroha goes back to normal. The key must lie in the hallway painting.
The shards they collect are called "shards of mimi".
There was always speculation about mimi being some form of character since it sticks out that they are not called "illusion shards" or something and instead have this weird name we didn't know anything about
Why is Yayaka so shit? She ruined the whole episode!
Something I noticed the second time around.
Could just be continuity error, but the toothbrushes and containers behind Cocona change color at the same time that imouto Papika vanishes.
Someone else posted this in the previous thread.
This is actually a terrific interpretation of the episode because it manages to tie together the many Papikas and Cocona's concerns about PI in an elegant way.
>At the start of the episode she is worried about Iroha being changed by her actions in PI/DPI. The difference is Cocona barely knows Iroha at all. She hasn't had a chance to talk to her much, before or after her memory diving in episode 6. The many Papikas showed her that just throwing away some paintings and deciding she can use nail polish doesn't mean Iroha's personality has changed very much. Certainly not to the degree that the pseudo-Papikas were different from real Papika.
If the writers actually meant to communicate this then it's pretty genius. Either it was not that greatly executed or it went over everyone's heads.
It doesn't work because Cocona's main concern aside from Iro is that going to PI could cause more destructive, unaccounted for changes. She finally realized that not knowing what the fuck she's getting into actually matters.
If that hesitation (which was explicitly stated in the episode) got resolved simply by seeing the many Papikas (none of which were real) and making a dubious at best connection with Iro, then it would be poor writing.
I didn't mean that it resolved her concerns about the PI being dangerous. I just meant that that's one way to read the episode as having tied the two issues together in a thematic way. At the very least she might not necessarily want to turn Iroha back to normal anymore. They're definitely going to go deeper into the consequences of the PI later.
When you interact with a person you always affect them and can change something. In that sense their actions in the DI were no different from everyday. Cocona should accept that.
Imagine if /a/ went to a stand up comedy show. As the comedian did his work, /a/ would stand up from the audience and yell "Fuck off! Stop baiting for laughs!" at him, and then when everyone tries to explain to him that comedians tell jokes, /a/-kun would turn red and start screaming "OH LOOK HE WAS ONLY PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED! FUCK OFF CANCER" over and over while flipping all the tables until guards dragged him out.
People have been wondering about the significance of these clippers. I think they might just be one of Mimi's possessions that Salt keeps as a memento.
then it's probably his box of fragments
very similar color scheme
Salt is a regular honest dude and he means what he's saying. Cocona went in there expecting some huge secret hidden in his drawer and this was built up further by spooky Papika, but when she actually opened it he just kept a nail clipper in there like any regular person
>Papika's age is -- according to that one scene with the monitor
>if the small child in the part where Papika and Salt(?) shout Mimi while she apologizes is Cocona, there's quite the age difference
>Papika might've been created just to give Cocona an imaginary pupper friend that doubles as a tool
>Papika's age is -- according to that one scene with the monitor
Uh oh, I didn't think about this.
>Papikas are advanced AI machines with a lifespan of 9 years
I`m not ready to experience that again
They won't end it in tragedy, right?
Papika and Cocona are going to aishiteru each other and live happily ever after.
Last episode Papika will die, but since she loves Cocona so much she will choose to go back in time to when she was the happiest, and will reincarnate as Cocona's mom. Mimi, that is.
Obviously I have nothing to go off of but I just can't see this show going super dark on us. If any show has a happy ending it'd be this one.
We are not starting this again.
Did she only friendzone Lewdika or every Papika as well?
Cocona doesn't like how Iroha is acting, and probably thinks it's because of the nail polish. The nail clippers appear to her since it's what she's been subconsciously wondering about: "Maybe if I clip all her nails off, she'll be better."
At the crossroad and dissatisfied with every possible teen fantasies you can do in the modern construct of society.
Late to the party. Can someone explain if there was any significance to papika and cocona doing all the switching and shit during the Iro episode? I got everything else, but I didn't understand what 2 halves of the same person was about or what exactly the swapping was meant to mean.
I found the use of clover in this scene interesting because Flip Flappers has done symbolism using flowers before. So I looked up the meaning of white clover in flower language and it means "Think of Me".
This meaning has a couple implications in this episode. One is this spot is of significance to Salt and the other man there who are thinking about Mimi. This makes sense with the opening showing both of them as well. Now we know that they have connection with Mimi.
The other implication is when Papika made a crown of white clover and gave it to Cocona. Cocona was trying to think about the true Papika and wanted to remember and see her again. The real Papika was always in her thoughts. So by giving a crown of white clover to Cocona Papika is saying "Think of Me" which is doubly true since the crown goes on Cocona's head.
I have, but I'm autistic and probably wrong. That and I've seen a lot of stuff around about how papika is actually a projected portion of cocona, so I was thinking that this might have been hinting towards that some more.
>making me choose between Delinquent, Tomboy, Boy, and Drills
What did Cocona do to her to make her make this face?
She's got really long fingers
Swimsuits are god's gift to the world.
I think this might end in /u/ guys.
Most yuribait usually don't have the MC actually question if their feelings for the other person is more than just friendship the way this episode did.
Also Mimi has the same VA as the girl in Cocona's dreams (Ai Kayano).
The only thing more deadly than a Japanese cold.
Look, there is only one Papika and that's Papika. Cocona agreed, don't bother her about it.
She's been our girl from the start, I'm sorry that it's taken you this long to realise.
The irony of this particular Pure Illusion was that the more that the PI tried to remake Papika into the "perfect" Papika for Cocona, and thus the more to distract her and keep her in PI, the more Cocona realized that the Papika wasn't "her" Papika and rejected it. There are so many ways to interpret this particular world, many good ones have been done in this thread alone, but Yayaka killed it, that bitch.
what the flap
There were at most two boys, the first one in the school and that one, but all we know about them are their voices, clothing and that Cocona calls the second one "ikemen." I still think the second one is just a tomboy.
hidaka is an underrated character
Cocona is either the baby and Papika is her sister or Cocona is Mimi itself and Papika is her daughter.
The first option seems the most plausible but since this show is so weird may be is the second one.
Best pair right here.
Some spooky stuff with this "disappearance when having a bit of happiness/emotional moments"
Would Papina also have disappeared right when they would have been about to climax?
>Cocona about to have a heartfelt moment with another human being
>"I'll take "Things that never happened" for 100, Alex"
To be honest, I feel like everything outside of the Papika moments was basically seeing the world through Cocona's eyes, and the Papika moments were her flights of fancy in red-haired form.
How do I get a Papika imouto?
I don't quite get why Cocona was fine being this close to Papika when she was previously shown to get flustered at excessive physical proximity. Has she outgrown it or was it just because she figured out all those Papikas weren't real?
>She disappears after they fall asleep in each other's arms
>Cocona wakes up alone
>After a chain of events I can't remember, I (Cocona) and Papika have gotten inside a really dark house full of strange stuff
>Can't see one meter in front of me but can still hear monsters
>I'm hugging Papika in some wall corner below a statue, we're both shaking in fear
>I decide I need to check the other rooms
>After some good minutes of hesitation, I go down the stairs with a butcher's knife
>Complete dark, nothing can be seen
>Still, I can hear sounds and try to hit them
>It cuts like cloth, but I know I'm actually hitting them
>After 3 swings I get too scared and run back up
>Papika greets me with another butcher's knife
>She wants to attack me
> The statue behind her is completely broken
>I don't want to attack her, just to disarm and set her down
>We start circling each other
>I even manage to get a hug her and ask her to stop, but she just uses the opportunity to get a hit down on me
>Get a hit on her, her face becomes completely red from all the blood
>Get another hit and her body falls limp in the ground
>Papika is dead, I killed her
>The ghostly shits from downstairs are now flying above us
>I try to hit them but it won't bring Papika back
>Papika is dead
>I look at her for one more minute and then just bring the knife to my neck and end it all
The day hasn't even started and I already feel like shit. I love Papika, why did I kill her?
Then I hope by the end of the series that Cocona is able to react the same way with the real Papika. They already sorta did that in episode 5 but that was because of that PI's influence.
Because she didn't tell them about it.
We could probably make one of these for the threads at this point.
>who is the target audience for this show?, futa art posted, I wrote a song for cocona, lolibutt, ban evader #1 posts
>someone explain episode X to me, ban evader #2 posts, was this really necessary?, KKK, drifters is AOTS
>something something evangelion, coconuts, flip flop (free space) , cockona, sodium vapor/fire codes
>not even top 3, KKK, complaints about lolibutt, yayaka being cucked, # episodes in and STILL not making any sense
>this reminds me of phantom world, drifters is jojo-tier, not even in between X, PUFFY VULVA, everything is a thomasson
So, PI was trying to show COCONAAAAAAAAA that whatever particular face or personality someone takes on, they can still be loved, as long as they're that person, since she began to enjoy her time with the many many Papikas.
Yet she still wishes to change the happier Senpai who has now ditched her obsession with painting, likely spurred by her guilt over Grandma, and is no longer carrying the weight of a broken promise Cocona is a bad coconut
>She doesn't get flustered with the fake Papikas
>flusters the fuck over indirect kiss with Papiya
Why was Cocona upset here?
I wonder what Papika was doing during all of this.
Presumably they see different things in the same rough space, as it's based on striking a chord in similar emotions.
Do you think Papika was seeing lots of Boyconas?
Did she get herself some Cockona?
What is it about this show makes you like it /a/non ?
Papika didn't waste time trying find her real Cocona. You can't build a space ship in a day.
>You can't build a space ship in a day.
You've never even flapped
Salt's design is suitable for this PI's premise
It's not even in my top3!
How can she be the cutest girl and the cutest boy in the show?
wtf im gay now
We need more original shows like this instead shitty LN adaptations
That's just wishful thinking on your part anon, clearly need to think with your head instead of your dick.
All I really see is a close friendship once torn apart by dimensions and then united again.
Lewd things done with consent while facing one another and staring deeply into each other's eyes.
Intentionally coordinating outfits (mot uniforms)
Marriage ceremony with one wearing a tuxedo
Princess carrying to the wedding bed
>Even if they do the shitty "one of them dies" ending, they can have a goodbye kiss.
Mimi is Cocona's mother who sacrificed herself to split into shards and contain PI. Those shards now hold control over PI, hence their fighting for them. Cocona will continue her mother's job, sacrifice herself and recollect the shards in her. Papika will live happily ever after in PI with Cocona, who now has utter control of it, and grandma who can walk
Why is her mouth so big? Is she secretly a muppet?
>heartfelt parting scene
>Cocona finally acknowledges mutual feelings of intimate romantic love and attraction
>she and Papika share a deep, passionate kiss as a final farewell
>Papika dissapears completely
>Cocona stands for a long moment, now completely alone
>"wtf I'm gay now"
Somehow I don't think revelations of atypical teenage sexuality and tragic partings go well together. If the only thing Cocona gets out of this whole adventure is a fetish for flipping flaps, I'd fap but feel fraught.
That's why I said shitty. Ideally they'll just be happy and stay together at the end, but I'm not too confident on the odds with what they've hinted at in regards to both Cocona's and Papika's true natures.
Can you imagine Princess Tutu being aired today?
Fags on /a/ would be like YURISHIT YURISHIT YURISHIT in every thread
I'm a yurifag to the bone but maybe I've grown jaded because of past anime with just bait.
To the yurifags here:
How many of you actually has hope that this will turn out to be true blue yuri ending? No bullshit. Actual yuri end like KnM.
I don't care about "hurr durr ACTUAL yuri" anymore, because that just means they show you a kiss. I'd rather have the relationship be meaningful than cheap bullshit that can be solved with 1 piece of fanart.
I would rather not a yuri ending because I frankly just don't want to see Papika that way.
I would appreciate if they openly acknowledged it, but chose to just remain BFFs. What upsets me with lots of shows that have yuri subtext isn't that we don't get a yuri end, but that the narrative just pretends it doesn't even notice that characters are moving towards the grey area between friend and something more. At least acknowledge it
Ctirus is okay because of art but NT is just bullshit. Still going to watch it though. I don't really mind men in my yuri as long as both girls end up together. And yes, I actually enjoyed Octave.
I have become increasingly hopeful as time has gone on. The last episode actually had a moment to stop and question the type of love that Cocona feels, and I don't know if I have ever seen that before.
If it doesn't confirm it, I will be slightly disappointed but it will be as I expected in the beginning. If it actually has the balls to continue the development it started all the way to its natural conclusion, AOTY.
Yeah sort of a rough draft, didn't realize I had KKK twice until I posted it.
Was hoping some anons would tell me what I did wrong and offer suggestions but I think I probably tripped a few filters.
KnM ended with the main character dying alone. Besides that I know everyone was happy that we got our yuri end but the fact that it was a yuri end is the only redeeming thing about the whole ending. Also the rape scene was fucking dumb.
>KnM ended with the main character dying alone.
Jesus Christ onee-sama.
Ayana's last script was 6. The director did the script and storyboard for 7.
And Ayana's tweet about 6 being her last also said she had worked on the composition (plot outline the scripts are based on) up til the last episode though.
>watched 7 episodes of a cancerous show just to tell us about it.
You're not fooling me, recr/u/iter! These girls may be gay but I'm sure not, and I'm not gonna let your little board change that!
She reset the time and still get to live in it. AI YO she ain't got to explain shit.
>If the only thing Cocona gets out of this whole adventure is a fetish for flipping flaps, I'd fap but feel fraught.
She already got many fetishes more than just that.
Yes, and it's also a shit anime no matter how gay the ending is.
This is why you don't listen to /u/, they have zero standards besides "exactly how explicit is it that they're gay".
>Really just makes the entire ending sort of pointless then
It doesn't though. That's why she did all that bad shit, she gambled on it from the start.
>Outside of the yuri KnM was pretty fucking terrible and I almost regret watching it.
It's a corny monster of the week super robot show. Gotta be a /m/otherfucker to fully appreciate it.
Just like with anon, her fantasies become more depraved the longer her gratification is deferred. She's too shy and quiet and well-mannered to get some for herself like Yayaka, so it just festers inside while her neglected middleschool body stews in its own desire
So, am I reading it correctly that they visited subconsciousness of one person since she remembered sensei in the end and it wasn't just a static fragment hidden deeper in PI?
Well, gotta admit, this episode was kinda weird but it really made the point that change isn't necessarily a bad thing. After all, if someone changes but you don't like said change, the problem might very well from you rather than the other peson.
The yuri was executed nicely and if you don't like super robot shows then it wasn't meant for you in the first place.
It's like complaining about the simplicity of Dancouga or Godannar.
Never seen a wooden horse before?
>It's not about what genre it is.
Kinda is. Most people complain about the robots because they went in expecting something more grounded. It's formulaic in its approach and it works fine.
>The show was just bad.
I feel like Cocona was overreacting at Senpai taking out some trash. I did and do some creative things and sometimes it's just not worth keeping all that stuff. Most of what you produce is just practice of some sort anyway.
>inb4 EVA is my fav mecha show
>inb4 I know all about Gundams dude
tell that to /a/, who mostly take exception to iroha talking to people now and go "REEEEE NORMIES".
I am fairly certain that Cocona is supposed to be wrong about how this turned out, besides the ethical implications of doing something like that.
I bet you'll watch anything just because it has mechs in it. You know people always bitch about /u/ being desperate but the board that's really desperate for decent material is clearly /m/.
>inb4 my first super robot show is TTGL
Different tastes mate, what can I say?
>that yuri part
>that sexy Cocona dress
>that caress on the arm
i'm no /u/fag but this was lewder than I had expected.
>hurr durr KnM tho
>i bet you only watch shit like ttgl
how retarded are you exactly, you can't play that card when the topic is an obscure super robot show from 2004 to begin with
>i'm no /u/fag
It's too late Homura. You are already the demons.
Yooo, what the fuck is going on.
Was that Cocona/Mimi, Papika and Salt?
Whoa, hey buddy calm down. I never called TTGL shit. It's just an entry level show bouncing on super robot homages which probably went over your head anyway. TTGL is great.
You sound like those /v/-tier manime faggots complaining about SoL shows because they're obviously not the targeted audience.
The shouting girl was Papika, but it's unclear if she was really there or just reliving someone else's memories. But everyone seems to think the child is Cocona and I understand why, but I very much doubt it.
Honestly if the child is anyone other than Cocona and it's not a specific "twist" I would call that bad writing.
At the very least you're meant to think the child is Cocona at this point in time.
>Cocona's family "died in an accident" when she was too young to remember them
>First mother with a baby we see is Mimi, who is also the girl on the boat in Cocona's dreams
It's just logic that the baby would be Cocona. Also, Mimi looks like Cocona too.
It seemed pretty drastic to me. It looked like she trashed everything related to painting, including the table she had set up and the easel she was working with.
I can't quite tell if it was making a slight commentary on producing art and the artist/audience relationship.
I thought that at the start of this episode Cocona would at least acknowledge the positives of what she'd done, aside her fear of changing the outside world through her adventures in PI.
>Senpai was clearly only happy around grandma
>didn't feel worthy of painting her nails because she never reminded grandma of her existence
>probably drew out of guilt, as grandma was the only one who acknowledged her artistry
>Cocona/Papika remind grandma
>somehow leaks over to reality
>she is over it
>not so obsessive with painting
>feels free and happy to paint her nails
>genuine positive personal progression that Cocona caused, yet doesn't give two shits to factor in
Whoa buddy, there you go again. You can freely dislike something, I never objected to that. On the other hand requiring me to call it shit as well >>149896002 is pushing it.
I was just explaining how the genre itself is unknown to you. I'm not calling your taste shit, I'm just calling it different.
I really hope neon city gets some time devoted to it and isn't just a one-scene gag.
Not with that hair. Sayuri was a born succubus.
How would that be bad writing? There's nothing wrong with the revelation that Salt was had formed Flip Flap just for his wife and child. Cocona's parents were mentioned in one line and nothing about her life or story so far has even once had anything to do with her parents. The child being Cocona would have next to no impact because we don't even know what kind of influence her missing parents had on her. We still don't know who the kid sitting behind Salt in the OP is or who the blue twintail girl among the robots is, so my money is either one of them.
>I was just explaining how the genre itself is unknown to you.
No, you just assume the genre is unknown to us because good heavens nobody that knows anything about super robots could possibly dislike KnM. Fuck off.
>Cocona's parents were mentioned in one line and nothing about her life or story so far has even once had anything to do with her parents.
Official sites mentions that they died in a car accident right?
>or who the blue twintail girl
She's an artificial kid like the twins.
>Salt was had formed Flip Flap just for his wife and child
So what if Cocona isn't actually his child but just one version/part of his child and that's why he isn't very happy about it till he makes her 'whole'/finds the real one?
>But the kid in her hands has a weird hair style. Almost like a boy.
Have you ever seen a baby in your life, anon? They usually don't have a ton of hair by that age, or otherwise the parents cut it short anyway cause they're a baby.
I remember something about a car accident, too, but that's also the standard line you give children when their parents disappeared under mysterious circumstances.
I'd be okay with that. It would still be weird to me that he treats Cocona with such indifference, but that's probably just his character.
I don't want a yuri end. Their relationship is much more than "I want to scissor that chick". The ending should be about Cocona and Papika and be romantic, the yuri is just a part of it.
It's fine if they won't kiss, I“m not a schoolgirl and don't fall for cheap romance.
If they wanted that twist you know what they would do? The director is smart. They would have you see Mimi mouth something, but you wouldn't hear her voice.
But since we do hear her voice it's guaranteed it's not Cocona.
I've had the full ED on repeat for like 14 hours.
If it was het I'd drop it.
Occam's razor my dude. It looks like it has the hair of a baby, we have no reason to assume it's an older kid (it's small), and there's also no reason why it shouldn't be a baby. It's certainly not a full grown person or anything.
Her mouth actually reminds me of Calvin and Hobbes.
>salt has the same VA as matobai
>saiyuri has the same VA as zetsubi
Flip Flap has the potential to be a lot more ostentatiously hammy than it is.
everyone has big flapping mouths
Why do /m/ fags always do this? The moment something you like is criticized, you can do nothing but spew accusations at the other party. Do you seriously believe that someone could not be well-versed and appreciative of mecha if they fail to enjoy something genuinely mediocre?
Is he must have hair very little influence on those discussions because she herself said she doesn't understand what happens after episode 6. That also shows just how much of the concept she is responsible for and is why she didn't get a full composition credit.