ITT: Animes that ACTUALLY have bad animation

>>149836936
Technically speaking, you can't judge bad animation off of still frames. What you are looking for is visual direction.

>>149836936
>Animes
Fuck off

>>149836936
Is the pic implying the ones who don't know about animation are the teams behind those images or the people who criticize them?

how many layers of irony etc

>>149837128
the people who criticize them

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>implying Naruto Shitpudding 167 isn't a god damn masterpiece

>>149837090
This is pretty bad lmao

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>>149836936
The first three episodes of Madoka. I like the show and all, but holy shit that walk to school in the beginning was unbearable. However, the quantity of Meguca drastically drops after episode 3, though it's still present.

People aren't criticizing the new Pokemon because it's badly animated, people are criticizing the designs because they are shit.

you're favorite animes

Terraformars s2 sucks hard (that ending scene...)
Bloodivores had chink quality

>>149837128

It's a bait pic, because all QUALITY threads these days degrade from actually quality issues to "this looks silly and made me laugh so it's bad animation", which typically prompts the response depicted in the picture about "how animation works".

Just ignore and move on.

>>149837090
There's no change in the perspective

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>>149837090
This is so fucking bad what the fuck did I just watch

At least Madoka and Yuri don't just have still images for the climactic fights, like Violinist of Hameln.
Apologies for the shit video, but hopefully it gives an idea of the negative budget this had, for episode 1 as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic05o_BIEUo

>>149837090
is this the gay iceskating anime?
is that cgi or rotoscoping because that looks fucking horrible

>>149837587
Rotoscoping done badly.

Shin Sekai Yori had shit animation too, btw.
Just sayin'.

>>149837646
Both i guess. They rotoscope 3D animation

>>149837646
They had good rotoscoping at first, and it looked great.
Then they discovered that good rotoscoping is really expensive.
THEN they discovered that doing it on the cheap looks horrendous.

Nobody posted One Piece pics yet
That's shameful

Only the OP in Yuri on Ice has good animation. The rest is reused footage and badly drawn garbage.

>>149837646
The skating scenes in Yuri on Ice are not rotoscoped, but referenced from real footage. There's a difference.

>>149837662
>SSY had shit animation too
love this meme.
what about the great animation ?

They remade the Pain fight in a filler arc and it's actually a lot better

>>149837090
ice skating involves so many movements you need a consistently good budget to avoid this shit

>>149837320
Nah, people think design and animation are interchangeable.

>>149837865
https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/26727/animated-eiji_abiko-genga-sports-yuuri-_on_ice

>>149838060
The lack of time is a bigger problem for Yuri at the moment. That's why the skating scenes look so sloppy, there's not enough time to do a proper job.

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>yuri is beautiful when it isn't skating
>looks like dogshit while skating

>>149838202
You can see the live-action footage in the top right corner of the original video.

Grimgar

>>149836936
>animes

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>>149837090
low frame rate rotoshit strikes again. When will they ever learn? never

>>149837090
>>149837134
to be fair this is also a show with some of the best (ice skating) animation out there. it's just not constant.

>>149838262
And you can see they're clearly using the 3D animation to losely rotoscope

>>149838596
Because it's the only one, but it looks pretty bad 99% of the time, aside from the OP.

>>149837019
/thread

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It doesn't matter how many frames you waste on a scene if the frames look like completely retarded off-model shit. If you can't animate while staying on model and using proper shading, you're just half-assing your job in the worst possible way.

Movement can be conveyed just as well through using speed lines and panning across single frames, so there's absolutely no need to ruin the artstyle for the sake of forced animation.

>>149838616
That's not rotoscoping anymore, the movements in the 3D model and the final product don't even precisely line up. This is referencing now.

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>sakuga

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>>149837019
Did someone say visual direction?

>>149838750

Top left movie is animated similarly to the new Pokemon

>>149837320
>>149837320

no. People are just looking at Ash and comparing it to his previous looks and him alone, but people judged the show looking bad solely because of him. Remove Ash and the series looks good.

>>149838673
>Movement can be conveyed just as well through using speed lines and panning across single frames
No it can't. If I wanted to see pretty stills, I'd read manga. What's the point of animated works that are barely animated? It's a waste of the medium.

>>149837295

It had few bad moments but overall it was a very well animated episode. Opening scene was great.

>>149838651
>Because it's the only one
Maybe the only one directly about it, but lots of shows end up at a skating rink for a few minutes or an entire episode.
https://a.pomf.cat/yogpix.webm

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>>149838742
>>149838782
>>149838826
>all this effort wasted on garbage LN

>>149838673
by then its not an anime

its a power point presentation like (you) pic related

Plus rules 1 and and 5 of the 12 principals of animation

QUALITY Code
Mahou Sensou

>>149838742
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>>149838997
is phantom world worth watching if the show isn't actually good but the animation is amazing? this stuff looks great.

>>149839010
It was the only thing that made me keep watching, it really is the only thing going for it.

>>149839010

I love it

>>149839010
It's better than Hyouka. Not like that says anything anyway.

>>149839081
No it's not.

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>>149838821
The voices and colors are the reason adaptations are made. If you turn everything into little over-saturated stick figures with faces like putty that spontaneously warp and deform spinning around in a background made out of cubical debris, you're just wasting the budget while not even creating anything beautiful for it.

>>149838966
Anime is an artform. Any moron can draw millions of scribbles and create the illusion of "fluid" animation, but if each and every frame isn't beautiful by itself, it's just unprofessional shit that's no better than crap like Disney.

lain had fucking awful animation

>>149838691
Precisely. At least people criticizing should learn the meaning of the words they're using.

And I bet that for most (all?) YOI animators, animating ice-skating is a novelty.
That looks pretty hard to do honestly, because the character is constantly moving in 2D, changing perspective, spinning. And the movements on ice are not connected to the leg movements like when walking or running, because they're gliding.

In my opinion the major problem with the ice-skating sequences in YOI is the inconsistencies between the perspective in which the character is drawn and the perspective of the background.

>>149838871
>https://a.pomf.cat/yogpix.webm
This looks like shit compared to YOI.

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>>149838870
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>>149839231

The background is static panning while the animation is layered over it.

>>149839231
Mappa apologist detected. It looks like trash no matter how hard you try to spin it.

Every single frame of Mosepedia is just garbage

>>149839274
Yes, I can see that. I don't get what you're trying to say.

>>149838673
I prefer more frames of animation over staying on model, I thought Outlaw star did it decently

>>149837019
Really there's varying degrees of bad.

You have technical failures, colours, continuity, anatomy, backgrounds, off-frame, and scale just to name a few

>>149839360

It's what they could do with the budget and time they were allotted. No need to be so picky

>>149839130
>If you turn everything into little over-saturated stick figures with faces like putty that spontaneously warp and deform spinning around in a background made out of cubical debris,
It's not like animators can't find a happy medium that uses squash and stretch sensibly. Aside from some animators with really idiosyncratic styles, most well-animated scenes do have good drawings. It may be simplified to help facilitate the animation, but when the movement is so good it's not a problem at all. Also, this is the animated medium we're talking about, adaptations with voice and colours might as well be a picture drama.

>>149836936
Nothing tops Souten no Ken
https://youtu.be/4onNho0uonQ

ITT: Nobody's seen Twinkle Nora Rock Me

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>>149839130
>if each and every frame isn't beautiful by itself, it's just unprofessional shit
You're so fucking wrong it hurts

Pic related has fantastic animation but almost none of the frames can be considered beautiful.

>>149839552
>Ping Pong
>fantastic animation
It's barely animated and has the worst production values of Yuasa's projects.

>>149839504
>It's not like animators can't find a happy medium that uses squash and stretch sensibly.
The pictures in OP are perfect examples of failures to do just that. People who try to excuse stuff like Shippuden 167 with "m-muh sakuga!" are plain retarded, because the way it's animated undermines the entire scene, rendering it nothing but masturbation for the studio.

>>149839552
Looks like shit, and that's why nobody cares about that obscure trash.

>>149839420
I was not asking for the background to move, just for the perspective to be consistent.
And I never lashed out at MAPPA, I'm just being critical of what I watch. Read my post again.

>>149839659

Don't agree. Not much else to say since there's no facts to dispute

>>149839010
It's worth watching. The first half wasn't very good, but they made up for it with the second half.

Pretty sure the people were hating on Sun/Moon's animation so much was that the premiere was right next to Ash's league loss.

It was like falling down, then having someone piss on your body.

>>149839130
>but if each and every frame isn't beautiful by itself, it's just unprofessional shit

Correction, only the Key frames need to look beautiful and be on model inbetweens can go fuck them self

>>149839659
Op's picture is a criticism of people zooming on on small drawings and pausing animation in motion to mock it for being bad, and that's a legitimate criticism. Shippuden 167 has its flaws, but overall it is still an incredibly well-animated episode. I understand the minimalism of web-gen animators may not be to everyone's taste, but the scale and ambition of the action is remarkable there.

>>149839737
Wrong, any form of distortion is decided by the key animator. The job of the inbetweener is to accurately fill in the gaps left by the key animator. Poor inbetweens are really undesirable and will mess up the flow of the final scene.

>>149838750
Just watched Baron Omatsuri (top left) for the first time the other day.

They did some weird shit with the animation and art in that movie. It was vastly different from the rest of the series.
Pretty much everything else about that movie was amazing, though.

>>149836936
You think this is bad,

Oh boy you weebs be thankful you never had to experience Chuck Jones' smears

>>149839900
That movie was directed by Mamoru Hosoda, his movies tend to forego shading. The movie had very expressive drawings, which was good and appropriate for One Piece. I liked the designs better than the usual.

>>149837090
kek, so that's the faggy shit ya little homos are watching nowerdays?
Well, I hope atleast you getta see lots of ass and pecks or something.

>>149839944
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV3sK7wjLns

Western animation looks so unnaturally fluid and forced.

>>149839552
>Pic related has fantastic animation
you should at least learn what qualifies as animation before spouting an opinion

ping pong's animation is garbage

>>149839957
At first I hated it, but it really grew on me throughout the movie.

It's easily my favorite One Piece movie so far, only have Z and Gold to watch now.
Been working through the One Piece extra stuff.

>>149839737

Tell that to db super https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/25229/animated-background_animation-beams-dragon_ball_se

>>149839957

The juxtaposition between the look and the tome of the movie is good.

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>>149836936

>>149840117
https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/27313/animated-dragon_ball_series-dragon_ball_super-effe

>>149836936
Interestingly, all of these have moments of great animation. Not saying they're well-animated, but when you run a show long enough there's always going to be impressive sakuga moments here and there.

>>149840330

Looks like Shida soley did that scene.

>>149839552
Is that supposed to be a bad still? There are some exceptions but Ping Pong's stills look great most of the time.

>>149837914
Which episode(s)?

>>149839552
I think that frame and other frames are beautiful.

>>149838673
>>149839130
>>149839659
So when did you guys realize this was bait/some guy who just had needless vendetta against animation actually being, you know, animated. For me it was
>forced animation
That isn't even a real thing you raging fucking faggot, it's meme word made up to bait newfags back in sakuga threads.

>>149837189
Looney tunes tier
10/10

>>149840798
Looney toons looks fucking great, and since naruto isn't exactly a super serious mature anime, nothing of value was lost by using goofy looking but good animation.

>>149840330
Cool fight scene.
But it looks like it's played in fastforward. I don't know if it's to give the illusion the characters are moving fast but it looks kind of stupid to me.

>>149840703
I don't know, sometimes the level of retardedness is just that high.

>>149840310
Fuck off.

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>>149840902
These are the most powerful non-hakaishin/angel characters in dragonball. Be thankful it wasn't just sonic boom effects like this.

>>149839010
Only reason people like it is because its a Kyoanus show

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>>149840902
>he can't into fast paced battles
To me other action anime look too slow, also characters in Dragon Ball are fighting at speeds faster than light, all the fights are slowed down except for the talking bits which explains why it took so long for Namek to explode too. That's not exactly a canon explanation but it makes a lot of things in Dragon Ball Z make sense.

>>149839010

It's garbage that looks good.

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>>149836936

>>149839868
That's not to say any deformation is necessarily bad if it was planned by the animator

For instance I'm willing there's at least a few anons here who have attempted to make a bouncing ball flip book in class. and almost every tutorial whether it be a video, book, or some one teaching a class will tell you to put a little distortion/stretch when the ball hits the ground (granted the amount distortion/stretch very's on what kind of ball your animating since something like a bowling ball will have little to none at all while a soft rubber ball will have a lot)

>>149839944
>>149840000
>People are now saying Chuck Jones' animation is bad.
I know 4chan likes to be contrarian but fuck man, there's a limit.

>>149840951
>>149841049
I see, for me Dragon Ball is something I watched on TV when I was a kid, and I never tried rewatching it. So I'm not knowledgeable about it.

I always find it funny how the characters are supposed to be able to destroy planets but when they're fighting they're only destroying building (not like it's the only anime to do this).

>>149840951

DBZ did that a lot though. In the original Goku vs Frieza even

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N35NrEPdOg

>>149839231
>This looks like shit compared to YOI.
Its just a simple comedic scene, and wasn't meant as a comparison.

>>149841230
all i was saying is if you pause on one of his smears,

its bad

But he got away with it since he was animating on a high frame rate than most anime

>>149841336
That doesn't make it good. It's alright occasionally, but for example in the Cell vs Goku fight, it was dragged on for far too long on the back of multiple shots of sonic booms going off.

>>149840703
For me it was when he attached a shitty vector attached to a post about animation "ruining the artstyle."

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>>149841049
>DragonBall fights look less brutal than magical girl shows

It's just sad.

>>149841392

Didn't say that it was good, or interesting to watch, just that it's a tradition that became very common place starting around Namek. Even earlier like in Dragon Ball there are things similar to that though (after-image, he's so fast he disappeared!, etc)

>>149837189
>Do you hate me?
EVERY FUCKING TIME

>>149837090
How the fuck do people think this is bad animation?

>>149841240
>I always find it funny how the characters are supposed to be able to destroy planets but when they're fighting they're only destroying building
This bothers me to no end, I fuck hate it. Namek actually got it right, the characters were just above planet buster at max output, and their fight slowly destroyed the planet. That was fucking awesome, the planet accidentally got cut in half and huge holes smashed through it, people were vaporizing oceans and shit. All in addition to Friezas planet bomb in the center. Then all of a sudden the fights were scaled down for the rest of the show even though the power was supposed to have scaled up. In the cell saga, fights did way less damage to the planet. In the Buu saga fucking nothing happened besides a few rocks broke, and then earth got destroyed but since Buu was supposed to be millions of times more powerful than Frieza that felt underwhelming. Now in super the fights are boring and you're lucky if the ground cracks a bit.

Don't know why they went so wrong there, Dragon Ball has the potential for animators and writers to create some incredible fights, but after the Freiza saga everything just looks less incredible.

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>>149840951

Fast paced fight can look far better than how DB does it.

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>>149841437
Dragonball airs at 9AM on Sunday, that show airs at midnight.

>>149841437
Remember when people lost limbs, were cut in half, burnt to a crisp, crushed to pieces, and got fucking fisted to death in Dragon Ball? I remember.

>>149841437
Is that the new airing magical girl show?
Looks interesting.

>>149841573
That doesn't look very fast.

>>149841657
>looks interesting

>>149841573
"fast paced"
>5 second long fight
that's not fast paced

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>>149841643
Yeah, I remember last week.

>>149841357
Yes, I got it, don't worry.

I was just saying that for the guy that implied animating ice-skating was easy.
>>149838651

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>>149836936

>>149841705
Well, it does.
Unless you prefer your average Mahou Shoujo. Surprisingly, a lot of people prefer it that way.

either that or you're just the kind that dislikes the genre altogether.

>>149841743
I remember when the characters screamed like they were really in maximum fucking pain and they bleed all over the place and shit. I mean, it was pretty funny that Zamasu got chopped right up the dick, but that's all it was. Nothing like Videls screams in the tournament.

>>149841861
Keep in mind that he was turning into a goo monster, things probably work differently.

>>149841124
>>149841778
There really is zero reason for any Gundam show to not look fucking mint considering the amount of money it brings in through all its mediums. Scamco are just jews.

>>149841657
It's not a real magical girl show.
It's just a death game full of asspulls.

>>149841575
>Dragonball airs at 9AM on Sunday
not in america

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>>149841573
I prefer action that strikes a balance between depicting speed and power convincingly yet being easy enough to follow.

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>>149841978
They have to follow broadcast regulations in the country the show actually airs in, not where you stream it from.

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>>149836936

>>149841560
Because it is, my good man.

>>149842040
so...what the fuck am I looking at? also why that guys kinda disapear in the dvd version?

>>149841230
That form of animation is the definition of forced. Every design is a noodle which bends into whatever shape the animators feel like. There is no care for anatomy, shading or character it's just a bunch of drawings morphing around the screen for the fear people might start thinking critically if they ever stop staring slackjawed at jangling keys on the screen.

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>>149839362
Outlaw Star also had a much bigger budget than Berserk, though still a pittance compared to Cowboy Bebop's.
It did maintain mostly good animation except for some episodes in the middle which were clearly phoned in, like episodes 15-17.

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>>149838673
Hey, Berserk had good animation occasionally.

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But its shoestring budget usually only allowed for this level of animation.

>>149842341
>those unnecessary smears
Terrible.

>>149842218
>There are people on /a/ who don't know about Gundoh Musashi
I'm not mad. I'm not even disappointed. I'm just realizing how long I've been here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI1jlbQ6dNU

>>149837090
YOI fags BTFO

>>149838889
Kyoani's story. They have great art style and great animation and they spend it on shitty LN adaptations.

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Its okay when Kyoani does it.

>>149842510

It's great because it's self aware.

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YEART!

>>149842894
Such beauty

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Bottom right hair

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>>149836936
>OP complains about animation.
>Posts still pictures of characters being off model.

>>149843427
I assumed OP was being ironic.

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>>149836936

What about anime with pretty decent animation.

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>>149843689
>Decent
Debatable, choreography is dogshit though, just look at this garbage, nothing stops the blonde from just cutting his hand off or just striking his head.

>>149842376
>good animation
>posts a webm of a still frames
????

>>149843924

I know, that's why I said decent. It was a pretty good sword fight as far as they animated sword fights go.

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>>149843956

>>149843689
That's crap animation with horrible effects trying to mask it.

>>149837090
Why is everyone replying to this but not this >>149837134 which looks much worse and funny

>>149841933
not really, 50 episode shows are hard to balance budgets for. Even fucking g-reco which had beautiful animation looked like a fucking travesty by the final 5 episodes and had to be completely reanimated for the blu rays, and that one was only 2 cour.

>>149844035
At least they bothered to redo it for the BDs. I'm still annoyed they didn't bother to do shit for IBO BDs.

>>149841933
OVAs/Movies are where Banrise channel their resources properly.

>>149841560
HOW DID YOU MISS THE LAST THREE SECONDS, YOU BLIND MOTHERFUCKER?!

>>149838826
>>149838870
>>149838907
>>149838951
>>149838997
>>149839040

God-tier animation wasted on such a shitty artstyle.

>>149843427
How retarded do you have to be to not recognize that it's making fun of people who complain about those pictures?

>>149842264
You sound very upset that animation created for kids forgoes anatomical accuracy for expressiveness.

>>149837134
>>149837090
It does look like they're going too slow

>>149837098
>>149838552
>only 2 posts pointing out the OP's mistake
I want /a/ board culture to stay alive

>>149845198
Not OP here, but in my native language it's considered normal to add an "s" at the end of some foreign words, including this one. So I'm not really triggered by this even if it is stupid to do it in english.
I just read as "anime" unconsciouly.

>>149845837
I fucked up my last sentence.
*I just read it as "anime" unconsciously.

One Punch Man has a shitty animation. 5 fps with lots of still frames.

>>149845837
>even if it is stupid to do it in english
It's stupid to do it in japanese, moron. Just because you're dumbfuck language can't handle loan words properly doesn't mean others aren't capable.

MEMEMEME has possibly the worst animation i have seen in a while

>>149842510
I wonder if it'd experience a renaissance if it actually got subbed.

>>149843244
What show

>>149846792
Metadata.

>>149837662
SSY had big variation in quality of animation per episode. I can't remember which episode it was, but there was one that was terrible.

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>>149838750
Can we use this thread to shit on Toei?

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>>149842264
>forced animation
Are you trying to trigger or are you that stupid.
Either way, good job

>>149838673

there's nothing wrong with not staying 100% on model if it can portray motion well

Nichijou has so much forced animation its in a class of its own.
Jesus it looks bad. https://youtu.be/z30Y572EmCk

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>>149837134
Kek you could see the exact moment when the budget got cut

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>>149848474

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>>149836936
Super is fine

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>>149836936
>>149848674
Its great.

>>149848742
>cutting out the death stare

>>149848742
Why does modern DB look like such shit?

>>149848742
Where the hell is Vegita when she's doing that shit?

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>>149848815
Computers happened.
>>149848838
Fighting mutiple Black clones with Goku

>>149848742
That looks fine.
The cuts are the one that look awful, why would you cut to the same scene, that is some ass backwards direction

>>149848870
>Computers happened.

Yeah, but most other anime doesn't look this bad. What was Toriyama thinking?

>>149848893
That's Toei's fault.

>>149843689
It's also copied partly from Sword of the Stranger. I don't have a webm of the fight though.

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>>149848799
For you.

>>149849090
Arigato, senpai.

>>149848893
Stop blaming fucking Toriyama for Toei's bullshit.
The only thing they didn't fuck up was Hit and the Hit fight.
Everything else was them being fucking cheap when they should have broke the bank and shit story ideas.

>>149848870
Fucking OPM didn't have one millionth of the budget or recognition of DB and it managed to not only have superior battles battles but music.
It's a known known that those 12 eps of OPM outdid the last 60+ fucking eps of Super and has completely usurped DB as the THE action shounen of the western anime fan.
If OPM wasn't a fucking joke anime and they had an actual story behind it where things really mattered....

>>149848815
Because nips figured out no matters what kind of crap they pull out their asses, if it has the name "Dragon Ball" attached to it the entire planet Earth will be willing to buy it despite being utter shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUlhkgffLtQ

>>149843924
and not to mention just before that, the blade suddenly gets 2 inches shorter and thanks to that hes able to pull it without cutting his own face in half

>>149849161
Well of course, one's a single cour series, the other is just an ongoing one. Naturally they'll have more time to plan things out and budget everything better.

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>>149839552
Ping pong is so balls to the wall stylized I don't think it's worth using as a credible example for anything

>>149848474
>forced animation
enough with this meme

>>149849376
Lets compare both IPs:
-DB
>The most renowned and well recognized anime for normies along the entire globe.
>Any kind of merch ever made sells like crazy for solely having DB name attached to it.
>Any new animation project gets quickly devoured by normies craving for more DB.
>Sure sales overseas, either japanese BRs or broadcasting rights.
>Still Toei decides to go cheap on every single front.

-OPM
>New IP, based on some relative obscure webcomic
>Barely had any merch at the time the anime premiered.
>Barely known among normies until anime, fanbase was composed mostly of japanese and western weebs.
>Being a new IP, getting the distribution rights were a risky move.
>Madhouse barely releases quality anime anymore; yet it gets fucking sakuga in almost every fight despite having piss poor budget.
>Manages to ensare based JAM project for the OP and ED.

>>149849469
Somehow, I feel like despite the fact that it's got a unique style, it still did it badly. Dunno why.

>>149849571
>Sure sales
I meant guaranteed sales.
Fuck dammit I need to sleep.

>>149841560
looks at his chin

>>149836936
>Animes

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>>149849578
Because at the end of the day it doesn't look that good.

I really liked Ping Pong when it aired, enough to rewatch it recently, and the art style has grown on me but it's just so 'unique' that I can see why people are immediately dissatisfied when they look at it.

It's like if someone tried to make an art project into a full blown series

>>149849571
There's the fact that it was based off a manga that seems to be doing well enough to warrant an anime, which is based off a webcomic that managed to become popular enough to warrant a manga.

It's not really all that obscure as you're making it out to be. I heard about it even before the anime came out.

honestly it'd be easier to list modern anime that actually has good animation

>>149849184
DBsales have been going into the toilet as of late. They've already shot their load with this sub shit tier trunks saga 2.0 and now they honestly have nothing else to ruin in an obvious attempt to keep super relevant.


The entire IP is shitting the bed and everyone knows it. The twin fuccbois of black and zamasu and that whole boring retarded story and fucktarded ending and just outright throwing the entire CONCEPT of db under the bus because the writers couldn't be arsed to think for two seconds and they would rather save on animation then keep the IP viable across the fucking globe.

DB is damned to be a footnote in history and we all know it.

>>149837805
Because nobody watched the OP anime. The only reason to ever do so were Doflamingos backstory and his voice actor.

>>149849675
I'd be surprised if anyone on /a/ hadn't heard about OPM before the anime. There were regular threads before it all the time with people begging for an anime adaptation.

It was only slightly more well known than say... Punpun. Not super obscure but if your only exposure to anime is CrunchyRoll and the Manga section of your local B&N you've probably never heard of it

>>149839868
>it is still an incredibly well-animated episode
Which is wasted because it looks laughable even in motion. Ended up being a waste of budget. I'm not that fag who thinks good animation is bad or whatever but when the artstyle is shit, no amount of animation is going to save it.

>>149849707

? DB super has excellent TV ratings, just below One Piece and decades long family shows

>>149849376
DB was for decades TOEIs bread and butter.
That shit printed fucking money no matter what.

Super is inexcusably bad and cheaply made. There is no defense for this shit.

They have all the time and money needed to make a fully handdrawn series and get good writers and the hardcore autist DB fans who can at least make a half decent story in on it.

But they don't.
They create sub standard trash that is outright fucking WORSE then sub budget tier shounen aimed anime created to sell playing cards.

OPM is barely relevant to the normie crowd and they put out something that Toonami all but BEGGED to air. It even got a good dub.

Funi? They don't want to touch this shit. They really don't. But it's easy money and they know they're going to have to outright rewrite and edit 99.9% of supers trash to make it actually halfway watchable.

>>149849707
You're an idiot.

>>149849788
Source.

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>>149846142
>you're

>>149837090
If you look at the botton at around 9 second you can see the edge of the frame

>>149849841

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-11-10/japan-animation-tv-ranking-october-31-november-6/.108696

>>149849963
dafaq is sazae-san

>>149849963
It comes on right before One piece, which is a massive fucking boost to it's viewership, and it's getting it's shit pushed in by fucking detective conan in ratings.

I would be outright fucking EMBARASSED if I was them right now.
Goddamn.
If it was sandwhiched between two terrible shows, it would not get the ratings boost from being the show that is aired before one piece. It would be EVEN FUCKING LOWER THEN IT IS NOW.

>>149849675
>There's the fact that it was based off a manga that seems to be doing well enough to warrant an anime, which is based off a webcomic that managed to become popular enough to warrant a manga.
Skipped that part because it's obvious it got the anime thanks to Murata's art.

>It's not really all that obscure as you're making it out to be.
That's because you weren't in early Murata's version threads, at the time there were only the Boon translation for the redraw manga, webcomic had none until the manga reached Sea King arc. Even more, webcomic translation began from that point onwards, it got chapters 1-30s translation much much later, around manga's Boros Arc.
Also if you compared threads before anime got aired, they were comfy enough for discussion even with the ocassional waifufags wanking over the ESPer sisters. Normie places like plebbit's OPM subforum had less than 1/6 the members it currently has before anime.
While it was loved among anons, was barely known outside weeb circles.

Been in OPM threads since the Brawl n Brain Bros chapter, so I know the fanbase development and grow.

>>149849989
Japanese Simpsons, in terms of longevity and popularity.

>>149844001
>still frame
>Casca is off-model
Why.

>>149850204
Regardless of its western popularity, it still managed to be a major hit. Not being known among "normies" doesn't mean that it can't be. Having an average-sized cour would've naturally been best for a monthly comic that already had a decent amount of content.

Sure, it wasn't that big before the anime, but it was certainly not so obscure that it would flop from a lack of a profitable fanbase.

>>149850383
Again, my point stands.
OPM was a risky new IP, but Madhouse delivered a more than satisfying adaptation in every single item.

DB is a literal money printing IP, yet Toei went cheap in every single thing they could, from animation to writing to OST to everything.
If instead Toei break the piggy and put some actual budget for it, DBS would be universally praised by the entire planet.

>>149836936
>Animes
>image
Kill yourself.

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>>149849872
First day on /a/, fujoshit?