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Why does Ram ride the clown cannon?

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Why does Ram ride the clown cannon?
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>Arc 4 Ch 58
https://mega.nz/#!oR1iCCRL!ocPOSf9kJmcl1NhH6g6sRdAH9PFgJOmEVyl3QW56c4w

>Previous stuff
https://mega.nz/#F!VNdzDYYK!nK9fNU3LeprlZSbRAnlsRg

>For animefags looking to continue the story
http://pastebin.com/sTd7dtAx
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>>149806854
It's a big cannon.
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>>149806854
Stockholm syndrome
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>>149807966
For Barusu
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Is TLanon on vacation now? Brought us up to the half way point in basically no time. So guy deserves a vacation if so.
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He has the BCC
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Who here likes official Rem butt?
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>>149808676
>official Rem butt
Is that actually official art?
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>>149808431
Yeah. He's out of his country until early December. We might get an update during that time but don't expect much. Lemonwater might relieve us in the next 10-15 days since he's translating the tapenshuu stories, or at least the Rem ones.
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>>149808701
Do I look like the kind of guy who would lie to you?

Just pulling these from sample images.
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>>149808676
I love Emilia's butt
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>>149808981
You sure about that?
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>>149808981
Emilia worst girl. Felt had more personality and was less forgettable and she only had like 20 minutes of screen time in the anime
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>>149809127
It's only natural for Reinhard to get a better Princess.
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>>149808785
Wait, it's translated?
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>>149808981
Well, let's see how long your resolve can last.
>>149809215
Hrm? Oh yeah.
https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/re-zero-starting-life-in-another-world-vol-2

I was thinking of maybe buying a copy and removing the DRM, or some such shit.
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Let's say that a kid decides he wants to be an engineer because his uncle makes bank as one.

He studies his ass off and gets into engineering college.

Who gets credit for this achievement? The Uncle or the Kid?

If you say uncle, you're an emiliafag.
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>tfw the show went to shit after episode 15
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>>149809727
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>>149809259
Be the hero piracy needs.
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>>149806854
Sometimes you just want a dick.
You know what I mean?
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>>149809727
If only they put in the real ending.
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>>149809959
How would I even upload it anywhere if I just hypothetically happened to do something like that?
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>>149810042
mega is always a thing
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>>149809745
>It doesn't loop

Everytime
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>>149809727
>tfw you read past season 1
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>>149809468
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>>149810361
Honestly Rem's coma is the worst thing. I think the low point of Arc 3 was Subaru at his worst mentally.
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>>149809171
What is Reinhardt doing to Felt lately?
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I finished the anime is it really worth reading the light novels?
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>>149809745
>>149810361
>Recently finish the anime
>'eh thats kinda shitty they just didnt show Rem for the last 5 episodes but i guess everything worked out'
>Look up Arc 4 online and start reading that and some cut scenes from the anime
>tfw
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>>149810470
Indeed he was, though Subaru being innately broken because of Rem's "death" is pretty bad as well. At least Subaru is based because of her.

>>149810499
Depends if you like tragedy and suffering anon.
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>>149810499
It's worth reading the epilogue/ arc 3 interludes because the ending is much more impactful. Also if you want to see Rem uncuck herself look up the other scenes. Those are worth checking out even if you don't want to or won't continue the story from there. I think Re:Zero works much better as a novel from what's been translated so far but some don't like the slower pacing and wordiness of the WN.
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>some don't like the slower pacing and wordiness of the WN.
I don't see how anyone could like it. Tappei is a shit writer from what I've seen. He uses twice as many words to say half as much. I'm little pissed the LNs don't come out faster considering all they have to do is edit what was already written.
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>>149810827
While most of his descriptions are rather long-winded at least they are detailed. Especially when it comes to character's mental states and developments.
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>>149810827
I have to wonder if that's just a language barrier on top of the WN being more of a rough draft, but we don't have the LNs translated to compare. At least not for free. I never found reading to be a chore and I like the insight we get from the characters, particularly Subaru since the time looper is often their own biggest obstacle , or the small anecdotes in the narration. It's not just editing. Certain plot elements get completely changed in the LN and they cut out entire loops too. Like how Subaru gets into the castle is completely different in the WN. He meets with Rom and Appaman who sneak him into the castle then he gets caught by Priscilla. That takes a few extra chapters.
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>>149806854
it rams her just the right way.
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>>149810273
So, mega you say? Well, let me go see if I can do something with that. I've never used it before.
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>>149809082
Why does she look like a Holocaust survivor?
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>>149811242
Isn't she literally a survivor of a genocide?
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>>149811178
Man it's weird to think Rem used to hate Subaru so much just for existing before.
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>>149810827
But I like the dialogue, the banter and little moments between Subaru and everyone makes me care for them. Except Emilia
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>>149811308
Well, it helps that she didn't exactly hate Subaru for who he was, but rather for what she thought he was.

Now, let's see if this worked.
https://mega.nz/#fm/GZ1lhISQ
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>>149811448
Nope
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>>149811448
Didn't work anon

>>149811308
At least Subaru has a taste of what she is capable of if he ever strays too far
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>>149811592
>Didn't work anon
The link didn't work?
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>>149811308
Depended on the loop. In the first loop she eventually thought he was okay. They even had a friendly chat a couple of hours before he went to bed and died of the curse. She starts out distrusting him at the beginning of every loop and it develops from there.
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>>149811623
Nope, it puts me to a login page. After making a fake account it gives me nothing.
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>>149811592
What do you think this facial expression is trying to convey? What is Subaru trying to tell us?
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>>149811659
Probably having to face the daunting task of eating so many eggs.
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>>149811659
>Rem's definitely pregnant
>I'll never get elf pussy
>I have to eat ALL the eggs?
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Subaru-kun, you must inseminate all the eggs.
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does emilia get more characterization in the wn?
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>>149811658
Hrm.
https://mega.nz/#!rElCULyK!13LK86HWhwf-qrNw8XD5s7YpUSenW1OtcSEqqxDuJyM
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>>149811766
>does emilia get more characterization
LOL no. That would ruin her character of having no character.
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>>149811766
Yes, she has more light tsun banter or cute childish moments that show she's not so above it all but her overall contributions remain too spread out or too low in the early arcs to please a lot of fans.
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>>149811736
Fixed your picture
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>>149811833
Great edit anon! If I could make on criticism though, that pic seems to imply Rem isn't cute. Rem is actually VERY cute. That pic might confuse some people.
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>>149811833
For maximum in-character points you could word it like

>some cute girl, like nee-sama?
>or just change 'some cute girl' to nee-sama
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Every thread until Rem wakes up.
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>>149811907
Or she dies
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>>149811901
How could I forget such important details? Fixed for real this time. ty anon
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>>149811773
Thanks anon, I just installed an ebook reader to try it out. This is awesome.
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>>149811448
look at my tiny feet goddamn
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>>149811773
Oh lord, I almost forgot how early story Subaru was like.
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>>149811766
She's a bit more like how she was in episode 1, but other than that, not much. It hurts her a lot that she keeps being put offscreen for large periods of time.
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>>149812264
Shit, even Roswaal has tiny feet. His dick is probably bigger than his feet.
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>>149812325
I see a pair of pussies and a bunch of faggots.
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>>149811773
Thanks anon

But that first arc Subaru though
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>>149811448
>Ram
>Cheeky
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>>149808676
How are Ram's stockings working here? You can see she has them on, but you can't see the tops of them or the garters they would normally have. Is she going no pan? Is that where Rem got the idea?
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>>149811773
Nice!

I hate to sound greedy but do you have the first volume too?
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>>149812969
...

Maybe. I think I accidentally fucked up and missed a five dollar discount on the first one. Ah well.

https://mega.nz/#!KN8iVCBA!ar1PKwLo-fGc-PuwpKobDg-PE1NtRCXo20KyvKSpYxA
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If I buy the volume used from ebay, I'm 100% surely not giving any money to Jew Press right?
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>>149813149
How would they be getting your money from used volumes?
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I've got to say, the second book did a better job with the pictures.
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>>149813088
Thank you based anon. We probably can't put these up on a pastebin in the OP. Even if mega is pretty good at going under the radar that would be pushing it, but one of the first 3 arcs in English on the web for free is invaluable. I guess we can post these links on occasion if someone is curious about the early arcs.
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>>149811766
you're asking on the wrong place, anything you will get here is Remfags lies.
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>>149813595
This poster is a shill, disregard everything he says.
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>>149811766
She does get development later on in the arc(s) but no much compared to others or warrant a sizeable amount of appreciation.
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>I'm a shill because i'm not bashing Emilia

See ? not even 2 minutes in, that is what I'm talking about >>149811766
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>>149811592
Is this from the manga or a doujin? Image search gives nothing
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>>149813782
Doujin.

>>149813320
>They're popular, so make them cute!
Even before the LN started.
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>>149813669
Nobody is bashing her except for that one guy, even then he is kinda right. While she did grow more independent she hasn't changed much from what she was in the first arc.

Plus while I'm pretty sure he was joking around Remfags are liars thing is a pretty dried out concept since literally every single thing from arc 1-6 have been proven true. With Emiliafags chasing away translators for posting "fake spoilers" with them raving about arc 4 like Emilia will be the greatest thing since sliced bread and Subaru never loving Rem ever. If anyhting we shouldn't be trusting anyone who is an Emiliafag at this point, since you people tarnished your reputation so badly.
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>>149813820
Thanks m8
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>>149813320
this is really cool
any more making of shit?
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>>149813842
>Nobody is bashing her except for that one guy

Except that happens in every threat on Remfags circlejerking here.

>Emiliafags still existing on those threads

Nice concept, maybe next time someone will still believe you.
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>>149813883
I wish. They don't seem to have done as good a job with the first one and this doesn't seem to be anywhere in my copy.

I guess I'm going to have to get it translated and typeset it myself if I want to see it.
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>>149813595
>>149813669
Most of the posts replying to the question weren't bashes.
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>>149813842
That is far past us now. Lets try not to bring the shitfling back to these threads. Let's not go back to the dark ages shall we?
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>>149813924
moonspeak isnt too much of a problem for me since im mostly interested in the concept art but if you do id love to see it too fampai
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>>149813924
Someone did translate that iirc. But I didn't save it
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>>149813944
>Emiliafags chasing away translators for posting "fake spoilers" with them raving about arc 4 like Emilia will be the greatest thing since sliced bread and Subaru never loving Rem ever.

And now you're treating Emilia like she is the worthless thing ever in every thread and Rem is the most important thing in the series, congratulations, you're a hypocrite.
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>>149813964
I can't, I'm still mad and forever will be mad, so much more shit could have been translated if it weren't for them. I'm not even supposed to be this mad but the whole "Remfags are liars" shtick triggers me to no end.

>>149813912
>Emiliafags still existing on those threads

Then why the flying fuck do you care?
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Roswaal was easily the most interesting character in the show its the shame they didn't give us a snippet of what he's up to.
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>>149814104
>can't point out Remfags bullshit circlejerking without putting Emiliafags on the way.

not a hard concept to understand.
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>>149814090
The hell are you talking about most of everyone views of Emilia are pretty objective. Have not looked at people's replies? She isn't worthless but she has always been a damsel in distress which most people don't enjoy considering there should be more to her character than that, especially someone who is a main heroine.
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>>149814144
Read arc 4. Roswaal is easily the most douchiest person you will ever bare to witness.
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>>149814190
>everyone views of Emilia are pretty objective

>When you select carefully the reasons at your own favor and vision.

now this is getting silly.
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>>149814162
It's clear you have your own bias to the erufu when you just had to whine about Remfags while only one fag really said anything memey and insincere to the question. Either way you are just as bad as the people who reply to catfag. Waifu wars are self fulfilling here these days.
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>>149814279
I only care about witch pussy and bodily fluids, that's why I can enjoy putting out the circlejerking for a new person here that doesn't understand what is going on.
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>>149814210
Not the most douchiest person just enough of a douche that a 13 year old girl wants him to be assassinated.
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>>149814321
I completely forgot that most people who used to love Emilia moved to Echidna. At least you people got better taste.
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>>149814348
>moved to Echidna from Emilia

Nice try but no.

The one I was liking the most in the anime was Priscilla and part of that because Yukarin.
Also Emilia and Echidna are like world apart on personality.
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>>149813320
>makes a world without japanese etiquette and honorifics
>makes a jap-style haircut
REEEEE
First two hair designs were better. Now they look like they have onion shells on heads.
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>>149814403
That's obvious but a number of people who enjoyed Emilia because of the silver/white hair fetish they have moved onto Echidna because she had better character, or so I've heard. I'm just simply basing my assumptions off of that.
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>>149814258
Well that do you think of Emilia then? Does she get more characterization in the WN?
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>>149814144
After reading the other adaptions I forget what was included in the anime and what wasn't but he's the only reason Subaru was present at the castle. From ordering Rem to stand down to covering for him when he arrived. His absence in the witch cult attack was also intentional. Too bad this only gets answered in the arc after the anime ends.
>>149814429
The oni in this setting had clearly jap inspired culture and aesthetics though so it'd make sense they carry some of their old culture with them.
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If I buy used from Amazon, Jew Press doesn't get my money right?
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>>149814429
>makes a world without japanese etiquette and honorifics
But they do have all that.
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>>149806854
If you think about it, the story could be told as a NTR where Subara comes and steals the Clown's most precious. From his maids to his princess.
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>>149814442
>"T-they didn't really like the character and realized that she was shit r-right ?"

That's a pretty much shitty Remfag assumption and clearly shows the mindset, but other people bias is the problem right ?
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>>149814496
Ram is still with the clown unless you subscribe to meme magic making the pity sex crack theory true in arc 6.
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>>149814403
>Also Emilia and Echidna are like world apart on personality.
There were some people who said they mostly just liked Emilia for her looks, and Echidna had more or less the same kind of look paired with a personality they liked better. Personally, I switched from Emilia to Rem very early on. Emilia left a good first impression but failed in the follow up, and I realized I was liking her less and less the more I saw and learned of her. Rem was more the opposite.
>>149814429
Oni culture looks pretty Japanese.
>>149814502
Some guys literally said that was exactly what they did.
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>>149811592
Im going to need the sauce there, friend.
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>>149814502
No, I have heard this exact reasoning from a number of people. Early on there was a complaint about how Emilia is sexy, but she's boring as hell. Echidna solves that problem in a number of people's minds.
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>>149814502
To be fair there was an Echidnaposter who pretty much said exactly what he did fairly recently. So it's not the craziest assumption to make.
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>>149814540
Plus Roswaal is still hanging around expecting Subaru to accomplish his goals. If Subaru does something he really doesn't like, he's going to get exploded.
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>>149814489
Only the honorifics and that just comes with the language. I noticed this by reading the ebooks just now. Subaru noted the twins wouldn't know about things like a formal first greeting between coworkers because they aren't japanese.
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I just came from the anime and just who is Echidna?
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>>149814686
Maybe supporting character, maybe antagonist from Arc 4 which is right after the anime. She's the Witch of Greed, or more specifically her ghost.
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>>149814674
They aren't modern Japanese, and so they don't hold the same etiquette Subaru does, but they have their own variations including honorifics and casual/polite/honorific speech.
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>>149814590
>>149814587
>>149814568

That doesn't mean shit, it's obvious that many Emiliafags when the anime was airing was shitposters but that was long ago, there still people who like her as always and check here for the translations but obviously they won't engage because the circlejerking.

but if you weren't so concentrate on shitpost a character just because she shares your waifu husbando then you would realize that.
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>>149814686
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>>149813924
Here
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>>149814686
If we ever get a season 2 she will be the next meme girl of Re:Zero.
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>>149814741
>Make a stupid comment
>Get a bunch of responses proving you wrong
>It doesn't mean anything, fucking Remfags!
Yeah, no, you're a stupid fuck, and this is why everyone give Emiliafags shit. I'm sure there's some just sitting around enjoying like everyone else, so why is it only that idiots like you speak up? I have been in dozens and dozens of threads and not a single speck of actual debate or legitimate praise for Emilia has come from your mouths.
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>>149814741
I don't really talk much about Emilia, and I like to avoid saying anything too bad about her when she comes up.
>>149814822
Ah, thanks! For some reason I think I actually like these designs better, even if they don't feel as appropriate to the characters.
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>>149814741
But you even said yourself

>Emiliafags still existing on those threads

Lurking or otherwise
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>>149814765
I don't think she's ever met Felix.
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>>149814822
I think those designs could work in a time skip. Subaru looks more delinquent here.
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>>149814838
>makes a stupid assumption
>correctly tells you why you are wrong
>b-but you're the one who made the stupid comment!

why i'm not surprised

>I have been in dozens and dozens of threads and not a single speck of actual debate or legitimate praise for Emilia has come from your mouths.

which proves my entire point
>but obviously they won't engage because the circlejerking

>>149814844
see the last part above
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>>149814910
Its not a stupid assumption, as THREE people told you, it was the explicit reason given by multiple people. You are wrong, and a stupid ignorant fuck.

And no, it doesn't 'prove your point' All it proves is that nobody has anything nice to actually say about Emilia besides
>She has silver hair
>She can smile
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You could have prevented this. You really could have. You just had to open your big mouth.
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>>149814982
It's is stupid exacly because the assumption is wrong, because you're going by shitposters which I clearly addressed there and because your stupid bias.

>no! they don't know anything good about the character instead of looks! look at those shitposters who are clearly shallow!

I'm laughing right now, you continue to make the same stupid mistake everytime.
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>>149811766
More characterization than Rem that's for sure
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>>149815070
and just to add, I don't even recognize these fuckers as Echidnafags either because the only thing they want is a cute character who is accept by people here and this alone is stupid, but okay.
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>>149815070
>because you're going by shitposters which I clearly addressed there and because your stupid bias.
So your claim is that everyone who has ever given that as their reason is a shitposter because you said so and we're the ones with bias?

Its not an assumption when it was the literal statements from actual fucking people. I don't need to assume, they flat out said so. But no, they're all 'shitposters' because despite not ever seeing any of their posts before, you know what they much be because you said so. Here's a hint: No one. Not a single god damn person gives enough shits about Emilia to shitpost her. Its too easy, its too boring, there's nothing to actually go on. She just exists. She has a place in the story, and she's getting there slowly, but she is simply there.
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>>149815085
This is sadly not even true. Mystery potato got more done in an arc and a half than Emilia has done in half the series.
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>>149815085
Only remotely true if you consider Rem got benched and Emilia had three arcs to play catch up. You get a lot of insight into Rem's conflicting emotions in the WN including how she feels about Emilia funnily enough. I almost feel like Rem being coma'd is what got her so much characterization in fact. He squeezed out as much as he could before she went dormant while with Emilia he could take his sweet time.
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>>149815066

Hmm?
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>>149815132
>So your claim is that everyone who has ever given that as their reason is a shitposter because you said so and we're the ones with bias?

you present me people with stupid reasons for their choices (and they changed to another character) and claim that is an entire fandom ? you seriously do not see the contradictory problem on your statement ?

>No one. Not a single god damn person gives enough shits about Emilia to shitpost her.

Now you're being dishonest, and I don't even need to go to other threads for that.

>>149809127
>>149809468

you realize how retard you are right now ?
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>>149814856

Ha ha, you're funny
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>>149815285
>you seriously do not see the contradictory problem on your statement ?
I don't see the part where anyone claimed all Echidnafags switched from Emiliafags, so no. But hey, that's just another stupid biased assumption on your part, why am I not fucking surprised.
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>>149815285
I'll have you know my post was not a shitpost and my post reflected my honest, sincere opinion that Felt was a more interesting character than Emilia.
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>>149815348
Your assumption was made by some generalisation on Emiliafags, is part of your own statement.


>>149815375
Sorry, it is a shitpost.
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>>149815444
>Your assumption was made by some generalisation on Emiliafags, is part of your own statement.
Go ahead, prove me wrong. Give me some grand insightful opinion on Emilia that makes her a magically better character. In fact, you don't even have to go that far, say one nice thing about her and one thing that SHE has done. Even someone as stupid as you can manage that much, even though between all your bellyaching now and from the last thread you haven't managed so much as even that.
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>>149815066
Oh well.
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>>149814822

I do like this EMT design, looks ideal to me.
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>>149814586
Just look for Re:zero doujins on ex. Its one of the newer ones.
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>>149815471
>Go ahead, prove me wrong. Give me some grand insightful opinion on Emilia that makes her a magically better character.

Why would I do that ? Since when I have a obligation in this discussion to defend a point I did not make ? what I said is that your stupid bias doesn't realize that there are people with legitimated reasons to like the character and they don't like to post here, just because you don't like it or encountered retards doesn't mean that they don't exist and even after all the posts you're too dumb to realize that.

>even though between all your bellyaching now and from the last thread you haven't managed so much as even that.

what ?
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>>149815596
I can say I'm more a fan of simpler clothes, so the design appeals a bit more to me too. Plus she looks more mature.
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>>149815614
>what I said is that your stupid bias doesn't realize that there are people with legitimated reasons to like the character and they don't like to post here, just because you don't like it or encountered retards doesn't mean that they don't exist and even after all the posts you're too dumb to realize tha
Oh look, you can't do it. Color me fucking surprised. Oh, and I also said, specifically, that most Emiliafags just sit quietly and don't cause shit. You might remember it, since you replied to it here >>149814838
But go ahead and continue to be a retard that can't keep a train of though in their head for more than five seconds and keep going on about bias when the only one biased here is your dumb fucking ass.
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>>149815471
Not him but ez. She's kind and she healed him plenty of times, and forgave him for the dumb shit he's done, even the whole royal selection thing which definitely hurt her image by her servant sperging out in the middle of the ceremony
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>>149806854
Buy Yen Press epubs for width 1800px resolution illustrations
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>>149815664
>Buy
>Yen Press

How about no?
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>>149815658
Congratulations, you can rub a pair of brain cells together.
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>>149815658
Alright finally something to talk about other than the whining. What more do you like about Emilia? What quirks do you enjoy?
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>>149815580

WHAT?
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>>149809259
>I was thinking of maybe buying a copy and removing the DRM, or some such shit.
Some anon already did that and uploaded it to the sekrit klub.

Unfortunately, as with all the official ebooks they rip and upload, they went with the Kindle version

leading to this horrific result.
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>>149815653
You're too stupid to understand that I'm not Emiliafag and that I don't want to waste time defending something that I did not post ?

>But go ahead and continue to be a retard that can't keep a train of though in their head for more than five seconds and keep going on about bias when the only one biased here is your dumb fucking ass.

>I'm (somehow) biased to claim that people from a fandom have legitimated reasons to like the character they like just like any fandom and that your stupid ranting about the character means nothing to other people.

you're reached far levels of stupidness that I can't even comprehend anymore.
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>>149815066
What are you on about?
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>>149815713
What the fuck.
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>>149815729
Amazon is very restrictive on the size and resolution of images in Kindle books, and actually charge the publisher a delivery fee on a per-megabyte basis.
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>>149815723
Nobody claimed that there aren't Emiliafags or that they don't have reasons to like the character. YOU claimed that NOBODY switched from Emilia to Echidna despite being told specifically that they did so and what their reasoning was. Moreover YOU claimed that anybody stating the above was making a biased assumption because they are a butthurt Remfag looking for places to shit on Emilia.

Literally nothing you have said has been true, and the only one making stupid fucking assumptions has been your ignorant ass.
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>>149811773
>Lady Emilia already pointed this out, but you desire very little, Subaru
>That's weird. I thought we'd be making up instead of you getting all shocked like that...
>As I have heard from Sister how you gave her perverted looks when you were alone, I was rather resigned to something less decent.

Was Rem thirsty even in the first loop? Has she been waiting for some D all this time?
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>>149815793
I think she was just teasing him, although she always finds him physically attractive.
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>>149815793
Nah, her heart was still 'frozen' at this point
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>>149810827
Agreed. Some people complain about the summary version but even in its flawed state, it reads much better
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>>149815768
>Nobody claimed that there aren't Emiliafags or that they don't have reasons to like the character.

That was your own generalisation about them like I said before.

YOU claimed that NOBODY switched from Emilia to Echidna despite being told specifically that they did so and what their reasoning was.

I did not claim that, what I claimed is that they have shitty reasons for that and that doesn't make the whole fandom (which is your generalisation on your assumption that I was one)

>Moreover YOU claimed that anybody stating the above was making a biased assumption because they are a butthurt Remfag looking for places to shit on Emilia.

And many are since this happens often in every thread like I claimed and showed, that was one of my first posts, but you don't want to admit that.

>Literally nothing you have said has been true

you didn't proved shit.
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>>149815729
Yes, it is quite the embarrassment.

I almost suspect that YP uploaded them themselves to make sure that pirates only get a shit version.
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Let's post facts about this series:
It would be at like 47% better if Ran and Rem were incestous lesbians.
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>>149816001
>>>/u/
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>>149816001
Who's Ran?
For that matter who is Rem?
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>>149815939
>That was your own generalisation about them like I said before.
Never claimed
>
I did not claim that, what I claimed is that they have shitty reasons for that and that doesn't make the whole fandom (which is your generalisation on your assumption that I was one)
Also never claimed.

Good thing you don't actually read any posts and just like making biased fucking assumptions while accusing others of doing the only thing you ever do.

Go learn the English language you dumb fucking retard.
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>>149816001
Ram would have a better love interest at least. I don't know how I'd feel about a 'I love Subaru' moment though.
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>>149811833
DIOOOOOO!!!!
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Its fucking insane how fast this thread goes downhill when there's no content. I've only been here for 4 days

Stop arguing about stupid fucking shit, I'd rather look at feris pics than this
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>>149806854
Why does she sit like that?
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>>149811242
Head too big compared to the rest of the body, gives off the impression of extreme malnourishment.
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>>149816202
Makes it easy to take the cannon at a moment's notice.
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Direct magic injections,
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>>149816087
>Never claimed

that was part of your own assumption, you assumed based on a generalized concept of the fandom on both parts, you don't need to claim that because that's the foundation of the very concept of assuming something, go learn about inductive reasoning.

>Good thing you don't actually read any posts and just like making biased fucking assumptions while accusing others of doing the only thing you ever do.

>Starts making assumptions on who do I like and the fandoms
>But I'm the one making biased assumptions

looks like you don't have any more arguments and is just repeating what I said with no coherent logic at all, pure circular reasoning, this ends here.

>Go learn the English language you dumb fucking retard.

Go learn how to interpretate what people says instead of sperging out just because someone criticized people you are part from.
I even got decent and nice replies from some people who realized what I said and here is you.
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>>149816172
Well it was good while it lasted
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>>149816378
>that was part of your own assumption, you assumed based on a generalized concept of the fandom on both parts, you don't need to claim that because that's the foundation of the very concept of assuming something, go learn about inductive reasoning.
Yeah, you're a dumb pseudo-intellectual talking out of your ass. This sentence means literally nothing, but I guess if you think it makes you sound smart. You need to go learn what words mean, come back in ten years, or better yet, fucking never. Now fuck off retard.
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>>149816487
I already ended, the discussion is already lost so no replies for my part at least.
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>>149816172
To think this all started with someone calling Remfags liars then someone getting triggered over it.
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What does it mean?
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>>149816962
Those cats are gay
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What if Re:Zero had been manga first?
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>>149818013
I don't think it would work as well. The manga has been decent, and the anime was good enough for a taste, but because of how character driven things are, the less abridged format is the most interesting to me. Although sound and visuals can add quite a lot of impact to certain scenes.
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Crusch-sama and Ferri deserve each other
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>>149818866
Good news bro, they scanned a Priscilla rape doujin just for you.
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>>149819290
>tags:Rape, Femdom, Shotacon, Big breasts, Paizuri, Ahegao
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>>149819290
>>149819336

This???

https://exhentai.org/g/996815/a95a1c8e7e/
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>>149819336
Oh god, you wish.
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Little angels~
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Best cat food on the planet.
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Ram > Rem
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>>149820463
t. Rem
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>>149817787
Hey maybe sanctuary identifies as female
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>>149809468
>engineering
>an achievement
>engineering college
>an achievement
>literal wageslavery
>an achievement
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>>149811405
I feel the same way. Up until the last arc starting with the white whale shit, I loved this show because of the character interactions. It sucks how the end of the show was so lame compared to the beginning. I would watch an entire show about the friendship between everyone in the goddamn mansion
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>>149822681
Arc 1 was good as an introduction. arc 2 was great. arc 3 was chopped up into pieces during the adaptation
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>>149809127
Elsa was best girl and she was only in like the first 2 episodes.
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>>149806854
Fuck clown. Ram is best girl though.
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>>149822681
You should check these out. They're SoL chapters that take place between arcs 2-3.

- extra chapter: Withdrawal Symptoms
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1gXPF3WJU88xGF5jjenP2SJzmQXTAhC9byhGK9plyRwA

- extra chapter: Mayonnaise
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1S4LIw4VVSIJtdJGsl1xIjfo0EOUZw2sOGHQX-b3_VZM

- extra chapter: King
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1J8xalbB_nwveNd3fHNaI21UcaaLQcuJG6inGsUb7Udc
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>>149822681
The twist would've made the ending 10/10 if they included it. They shot themselves in the foot by not taking risks.
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>>149817426
What he mean by this?
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Ram is just a snarky, fun-loving oni

getting bounced on clown cock is the funnest
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FERRI MAJI TENSHI

AN ANGEL!!!!!!!
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>>149823433
Aw snap, thanks anon
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>>149825377
Would you trust that knight to perform magical heart surgery on you?
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>>149825828

101%
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>>149825828
well i mean, a knight knows whats best for the people
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>>149824935
>I'm horny for elf pussy
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FMT
M
T

AU of Subbaru joining Crusch camp when?
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>>149827470
What if he cucks Felix? What if they cuck Crusch?
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>>149827561

Subbaru has 0% chance of cucking Ferri, and Ferri is not gay.

That leaves Wilhelm for Subbaru
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>>149816001

All the promotional materials make them look like incestous lesbians.

I thought they were lesbians at first back when I was going through the first few eps and still thought emilia was best girl.
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>>149815664
>jew press

Nope
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>>149823533

They'd rather people go, cool season two when instead of FUCKING DAMN IT WHITE FOX I NEED MY SEASON TWO!!!!!!!!
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>>149827470
Why do you want someone who can't control his sexual urges ?
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>>149828367

Subbaru can fuck Wilhelm
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>>149815285
They're right though. Complaining Emilia being a bland character is perfectly reasonable. Just like how people complain about Rem being a shitty person. Even then, finding isolated pockets of that then having you assume everybody has been shitting on Emilia constantly in a steady stream is absolutely silly and you're viewing everything through tinted glasses.
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>They wore black apron dresses with white accents and white lace headpieces on their heads. These outfits were specially modified to expose their narrow shoulders, which, combined with the short skirts, flaunted their body lines in scandalous ways.

Clown confirmed perv.
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>>149828571
So the design of the maid dresses looking more like fetish play ones was on purpose.
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>>149828643
I assume so, since their outfits differ from Fredrica's. I wonder who modified them or suggested it, since I initially thought Freddie just had the different outfit because she's self conscious about her muscular build and appearance.
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>>149828534
That's not the problem, the problem is biased EOPs trying to explain to a new person in a very biased way about her, I can't say that those people is being dishonest, but they just stand by their sides and are incapable to bring any decent point if it is not their waifu.

They could give you entire walltexts to you trying to excuse Rem here and there for being a shitty person and how she wants to improve but can't waste 3 lines to explain Emilia's improvement by being more mature, being more independant, to the point that she conquered all the trials despite her shitty past and is becoming more fitting to rule a country and being dependable by others.
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Considering the extra details of their past revealed in arc 4, did Ram say Rem was off limits to the clown as part of their agreement?
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>>149814162
What part on anything we said was bullshit though? Even then last thread people were talking about changes done to Subaru.
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>>149806854
She doesn't. Enough with that shitty meme.
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>>149829494
Its canon until disproved otherwise.
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>>149829494
Someone post the excerpt. You know the one.
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>>149829250
>but can't waste 3 lines to explain Emilia's improvement by being more mature, being more independant, to the point that she conquered all the trials despite her shitty past and is becoming more fitting to rule a country and being dependable by others.
And neither can the spergs who spent a thousand posts claiming that she improves so much. You win an award for being the first person to actually say anything about her development in a concrete way on either side.

Its also worth noting that is an opinion. People will write big long texts about Rem because they have opinions and would like to share them, and have justifications for them. The general opinion I've seen, even among those who can read moon and go ahead is simply that Emilia conquering the trials or helping against Regulus doesn't matter much and isn't groundbreaking or gamechanging. She improves a little, but its bland and uninteresting compared to how every other character grows, not to mention slow. Again, an opinion, and if you have a different one you are free to enlighten the board with actual discussion of the things Emilia does and what others have been overlooking in the situation.
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>>149829280
No Rem, so we don't know. Its entirely possible, and seems like a thing Ram would do, but at this point she doesn't remember even if that was part of the deal.
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>>149829585
Yeah, but doesn't mean that your opinion is reliable for others, considering we're talking about new people trying to understand what is going on and know nothing about those threads.
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>>149829234
Some anons assume he did it for Ram, but then Rem saw it and thought "Wow, Nee-sama looks so cool!" and then requested to wear a similar one, not knowing it was a show off style maid dress on purpose.

Probably for Ram and Roswaal's play time.
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>>149829250
Well the original question was "does she get characterization in the WN?" with most people saying "she does but not enough". Plus someone who is asking for oinions will get varying opinions back. The most reasonable approach you can do is give your opinion about Emilia to the guy asking a question rather than pulling the "Remfags are liars" card. Since this is what started the whole debacle in the first place. You went in to bash people who like Rem, instead of giving your own subjective opinion about what the poster was asking for.
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>>149829689
He asked for an opinion to begin with, 'better' or 'improve' are both subjective terms in terms of character developments. He's lucky he got some variations on 'yes, but its slow' instead of joke responses or blatant trolling. They weren't terribly specific, because with what most people have to work on there isn't much specific to say, we're halfway through arc 4 on summaries and Emilia has had barely any screentime and nothing has really changed about her yet because we aren't into detailed circumstances.

If there are specific scenes you know about that are major for her character growing or that show off the results of that growth, go ahead and share them. If it gets spoilery, you can put them in tags, some people would be interesting in having cool things Emilia does to look forward to.
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>>149829250
EOP thing is wearing thin now that the amount of content you can read as EOP has increased since the anime ended. Most people would still take Spfags word for it on arc 4 if not for summaryanon. And I don't think the complaints about Emilia were wrong

But, but! So don't go quoting the above and flip out. I think these criticisms are more criticisms of the story structure and arc than they are criticisms of Emilia as a character. In a roundabout way people are asking for more of her like arc 1 or arc 2 where she has plenty of chats until the climax (where she started to fall out of favor). I know she does quite a bit in the last loop of this fourth arc but it honestly felt like Tappei was stuck with her here but I feel that's just a consequence of Subaru dicking around with everyone else. Her presence was desperately needed when she was out of the spotlight for the last two climaxes.
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>>149829878
This is sort of my guess, although I suppose Ram herself could've suggested it. It seems sort of in-line with something Ram would do, plus that parts it draws attention to, slender frame, legs, neckline, I think work better on Ram's assets given that she's got little going on in the chest department.
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I summon you, drawbro. Return to these threads.
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>>149830040
>I think these criticisms are more criticisms of the story structure and arc than they are criticisms of Emilia as a character.
This is my biggest thing. Its not that Emilia is bad per se, but the story keeps sidelining her. You can see that she wants to help, but at the same time Subaru keeps going around preventing her from doing anything by solving problems for her. She seems to be easily persuaded into standing aside even though she wants to be useful. I'd really like a scene where she addresses that, but I'm not sure if one ever happens.

Subaru also needs to stop meme flirting with her, since her general reaction to that has mostly been mild confusion. Although I've heard at some point she does the pose, and I guess just accepting or rolling more with the meme flirting would be pretty funny as well.
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>>149830040
This. As it stands Emilia is a far blander despite being the main heroine in the middle of a colorful cast. Even reading the first 20 chapters where Emilia talks was nothing but boring with me wanting more of other characters and their banter. Its as if she has been made as the generic main heroine for the sake of being the generic main heroine and it irritates me and don't get me started on her being a love interest.

But that's the thing really, that's why more people enjoy talking about other characters other than Emilia because they are a league or two more interesting than her, hell, even Betelguese gets talked a lot surprisingly.
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>>149829911
>>149829934
I know, I know, but the thing is, In my mind I don't find hard do that you know ? I don't believe if people here is being serious if they couldn't do better than that, that was I think.

>>149830040
Well, is not that thin because the amount of content Arc 4 has and things happens very slow on this arc, Subaru is still figuring out what the fuck happened on past loops and then something new happens that brings new information and he again trying to figure out.
Also I do think people blow out of proportion the importance of some climax scenes or characterization, but this is another matter.
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>>149830572
I'm sorry what do you not find that hard to talk about?
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>>149830674
I was saying that I don't find hard for people to think more than their opinion to give a better reply, of course I can't assume that everyone will think the same thing, but still this bugs me out.
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>>149830572
>Also I do think people blow out of proportion the importance of some climax scenes or characterization, but this is another matter.
See, the biggest trick is showing the results of the characterization. So right now, most people know Emilia passes the trials herself. But what isn't really known is how she really goes about that and what, if any behavioral changes that results in. We can see in arc 6 that she is willing to accept Rem and that she needs to put in effort to keep Subaru's attention, and is willing to do so. This is an awareness she doesn't currently have, so something must've changed, but we don't know specifically what or when.

You can see big changes in Subaru's behavior after important scenes, but we're lacking either the characterization or the results in most cases on Emilia, so we can't comment on them with any real specificity.

And the details are significantly important, especially in a character driven work like this. The why and the exact context are almost more important than the action itself.
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>>149830793
I agree, you nailed about what I think about the matter.
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>>149830793
Its also worth noting that backstory and context aren't the same thing as characterization. We know Emilia has a vaguely troubled past, so while the details on it are really cool, they aren't that needed to understand that she is the way she is because of that. You can do a more direct explaination of the whys and hows, but even when talking about Rem most people just accept that she has a massive inferiority complex without bothering to bring up the details in her backstory that justify it.
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>>149830572
Well that's the thing, people are being serious, that's why the people, including including myself, were arguing with you about. It really is hard to talk about anything interesting about Emilia considering she is not interesting for a number of people. That's why people kept asking you to give your opinion of Emilia. But instead you just promptly started sperging everyone who gave you a reply, to which that one anon sperged back.
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>>149830572
Well I used arc 2 as an example because she was still fairly active in that loop even without the lap pillow. No climaxes there because if we're just going on climax then Emilia does great in arc 4. In this arc Subaru has more people to juggle and they're also all pretty entertaining and engaging but Emilia just seems kind of there in comparison. Not entirely her fault so the problem is meta. Again, that's really Subaru's fault and I wish Tappei had found a way to give her a better follow up after she was gone for most of the third arc.
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>>149830931
>characterization
Should be character development, my bad. Its a subtle, but sort of important distinction.
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>>149830942
That was an derailed discussion tho, the actual subject was different.
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>>149830931
Well its pretty clear-cut as to why Rem has that inferiority complex in the first place. Most people accept it because the WN/Anime/Manga was so on the nose about it you'd need to be a brick in order to not understand where it stems from. Plus it has been explained thoroughly numerous times and even revised/revisited by a number of anons. With more willing to go into depth about it if such a topic arises.
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>>149831000
>I wish Tappei had found a way to give her a better follow up after she was gone for most of the third arc.
I'm not entirely sure he's not doing this shit on purpose. A lot of other stuff he does is very purposeful, he has to know what he's doing.
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>>149831074
Well the same thing applies to Emilia her. People understand she's a socially awkward brick with a poor understanding of the world. The backstory justifies her being that way, but isn't needed to talk about this as a starting point.
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>>149831069
What was the actual subject about? Because my argument was that most of the opinions aren't bashes. You are also party to blame being called a shill due to the fact that, again, you started pulling out the "Remfgs are liars" card which most people identify as a shitpost and will treat it as such.
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>“Two people handling a place this huge? You’d think people would die from overwork no matter how good they are. That said…it doesn’t feel like you’re going to be hiring any new maids here?”

#Onipower
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>>149831223
>Two
>Rem handles 90% of all work
#Remdomination
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>>149830786
Well just simply make a better reply have have others see your example. Its not that hard.
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Ferri is crying. As a good person, what do you do?
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*5,111 *,*63,446 Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu Vol.10
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>>149811773

Fuck, I thought vol2 would be better since they changed translator, but it's just as shit. Thank god I didn't pay for this trash.
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>>149831572
>since they changed translator
Tell more
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>>149831086
Well having Emilia do work is considered a failed loop narratively so.

We've also seen that Tappei has planned everything from the start in terms of structure.
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>>149831562

Now sold about as much as Vol 9
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>>149831213
long discussion about assumptions on who I like and fandoms

>>149831456
Because that was not only today, people we're bashing on her in almost every thread, there is no reason for me to take it serious after all that.
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>>149831458
Put him down, its the only moral thing to do, he's in such pain.
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>>149831562

As someone who doesn't read LNs, how good are these sales? Enough for a season 2?
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>>149831666

Satan-sama?!
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>>149831710

Good enough to be sure that the LN doesn't need boost so S2 won't happen.
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>>149831379
I haven't started reading it yet. Is it really that bad?
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>>149831646
I've actually been in every thread since arc 4 translations from the red ogre/blue ogre theory to now. I have not seen anyone actively bashing on Emilia, witch the exceptions of small pockets that get no replies like the ones in this thread. Everything has been mostly Ferris bullying. Unless you are still shellsocked from the waifuwars. Even last thread there was no Emilia bashing, just a really heated debate on who has actively put in the most change into Subaru.
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>>149831594

Doesn't seem there was any drama involved. They hired some nerd off of twitter for volume 1 and didn't contract him for 2. I thought looking at the result, it was obvious why, but seeing vol2 now, I don't think they gave a fuck about quality. Maybe somebody's weeb cousin was just cheaper.
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>>149831849
I don't think it was mentioned in arc 2, but yes, Rem does approximately 90% of everything. And thats also with Subaru hanging around. Fredrica can also maintain the mansion by herself.
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>>149831646
I feel like you have never been in these threads since episode 25.
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>>149831918
>>149831849
That was in the anime to. Subaru is dumbfounded that Ram takes pride in being worse than her sister at maid stuff and usually just cuts up vegetables in the kitchen.
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>>149831872

>Everything has been mostly Ferris bullying

So you confirm that bullies are rampant here?
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>>149831979
Ferris deserves bullying
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>>149831979
We bully because we love

And also because we hate
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>>149832040

No he doesn't. Neither do I.
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>>149806854
I have't read the manga, but I always found it weird in a cringey way the clown's relationship with Ram
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>>149832146
The clown needs to die, keep that in mind anon.
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>>149806854
They got orphaned and their home got burned down, He's probably the first rich guy and she's been whoring herself to him to ensure they get a roof over their heads and meals in their stomach. I'm not judging her though, she's a good sister for being willing to be used like that for her and her sister's sake. Those first few times must have sucked though, they were quite little when it happened.
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>>149832146

Clown still treats her better than subaru does rem.

At the very least he hasn't emotionally manipulated her into loving him and then at the peak of her confession said "I love Echidna" then go on a tangent about how much he wants to make her smile and shit. There's no coming back from something like that.
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>>149831918
>>149831973
You know, I actually wonder why Ram let that situation go on like that. I guess it helped Rem feel needed.
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>>149832146
Good, you and I both. Thank god Subaru's daughteru wants to kill him.

>>149832318
Oh anon, you've only seen the tip of the iceberg when it comes to how much of a dick he is it Ram. Kee in mind he conditioned Ram to treat him like some addictive narcotic due to mana.
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>>149832318
>Clown still treats her better than subaru does rem.

You gotta be shitting me right now. Subaru is going through hell and back for Rem and treats her like she is the most precious thing he has in this world. Roswaal on the other hand is a literal wifebeater.
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>As I have heard from Sister how you gave her perverted looks when you were alone, I was rather resigned to something less decent.”

She was ready to bang him on day one.

What a trooper.
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>>149832456
Who says this to who?
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>>149831940
I have been, I've quoted exemples in this very thread not so long ago, maybe you just didn't care but they where there, this is 4chan after all.
Also people complained about me but not the shitposter who replied with bashing.
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>>149831881
What's wrong with the translation?
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>>149832265
but he is doing all that for the greater good.
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>>149832479

Rem to Subaru.
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>>149832486
But those were the most cherrypicked of examples. two posts with one to no replies and you assume its an active emiliabash. Even then most of their complaints stem from you calling them liars and it escalated from there.
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>>149832591
Well this is new
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>>149832416

He hasn't humiliated her by having Ram pour her heart out and then retaliating by cucking her. Regardless of what happened under the tree, the damage is done.
>>149832367

And she would be dead if not for his daily treatments. Are we going to blame the doctor for trauma patients getting addicted to Morphine now?
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>>149832575
I can't argue against that.
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>>149832607
Of course, because I can't quote every thread so far just for that, I just quoted those examples because people where pretending that doesn't exist.
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>>149832674
>He hasn't humiliated her by having Ram pour her heart out and then retaliating by cucking her.

He literally has, its called his waifu Echidna. Then proceeded to nearly kill her, call her a pawn, and makes fun of her village getting destroyed.
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>>149832674
Except he could have prevented her horn for getting cut since he was there when the oni village as destroyed but followed his book to get Ram and use her. Did I also forget to mention Roswaal is using her for eugenics as well? Talk about killing Ram's firstborn your yourself.
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>>149832674
Are you animeonly?
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>>149832786
Okay the eugenics thing is just a theory. A theory with a lot of evidence and canon dialogue supporting it but just a theory.
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>>149832456
It's hard to tell how sincere she's being, but I think Subaru was always kind of her type. She didn't change all of her tastes to match Subaru, but rather Subaru showed her the sides of himself that matched her tastes.

It's not all that strange that she likes pathetic tryhards and thinks they're cute.
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>>149832318
>At the very least he hasn't emotionally manipulated her into loving him

Oh anon, Roswaal has been conditioning Ram for that for literally seven years now.
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>>149832330
Not in a position to stop her really. She mentions it with Subaru kind of that her sister's complex is really hard to crack. Being the center of the complex all Ram can really do is try and not let her position as the elder sister slip.

>>149832653
I think she did it in the anime as well, but I recall it being in a later loop. Maybe they moved it?
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>>149832728
>Nearly kills her
>Ram goes back to loving him because of mana addiction

I will never not be mad
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>>149832883
He hasn't. He assumes she hates him and wants revenge.
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>>149832883
Nah. Roswaal is actually surprised to hear she loves him, because he pays more attention to his book than the world around him.
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>>149832981
Dear god does that image make me angry. Gaaf should have taken her when he had the chance. Literally anyone is better than that douchenozzel of a clown.
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>>149832728
>has amazing taste in waifu
>is such a shit person and does everything wrong for her
>she probably doesn't even give a shit and is more interested in Toyota

Why is Roswaal such a shit?
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>>149833023
>Offers Gaaf to wife her
>"I love sanctuary"

This is why he'll die a virgin
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>>149833039
Because he thinks dressing like a clown will make him interesting enough for his teacher to love him.
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>All this clown hate
Which method would be a good way to kill the clown?
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>>149833085
>[Petra: Why can’t someone other than Subaru-sama do it? Someone—another person…..you should just leave it up to someone stronger or something like that, like Master, since he has the time.]
>[Subaru: I…I understand. I understand just how much frustration you’ve had piled up because of how Roswaal wastes his time so often. Stop trying to add things on in attempts to drive Roswaal off to his death. It creates an intense amount of tension in the camp.]
>It wouldn’t be a problem if it was just things like Roswaal not noticing how Petra put squeezed juice from cloth into his tea. However, it would obviously be bad if she started to clearly show her hostility and malice. Subaru let out a commanding voice before it would turn out like this, but Petra’ eyed Subaru with a serious look. It seemed like half-assed deception and insincere words wouldn’t be able to convince her. Also, above all, Petra was seriously worried about Subaru’s safety. Saying anything unnecessary and careless in this situation would be disrespectful to Petra’s feelings of anxiety.

Death by daughteru
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>>149833085
Cholera
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>>149833085
Otto makes it look like an accident involving auto-erotic asphyxiation. I don't think anyone would be asking any questions.
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>>149833039
Because he dresses like a massive faggot
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>>149833216
Otto killing Roswaal for domination of the gospel when? We all know he's a spy so he must have some forms of assassination.
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>>149833164
What even is the context here? I see this posted, but what thing does she want to send Roswaal off to do?
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>>149832318
Subaru didn't manipulate her into loving him. He never asked for Rem to be that way, especially when it complicated things with his whole half elf pursuit. If anything it was the other way around.
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>>149833262
So Subaru can read the gospel because he has Pete's factors and Echidna activated them, could Otto read the gospel if he absorbs clown factors and activates them somehow?
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>>149833039
>>149833079
>>149833231
>Echidna reappears in her old body
>sees Subaru and the clown working together
>has decided she wants Subaru all for herself as part of her "Greed"
>sees the clown
>ignores him because she doesn't recognize him nor gives a shit

I want this to happen so fucking badly.

>>149833085
Suicide after getting cucked.
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>>149833277
>[Petra: It was rough with the demon beasts; it was rough with the witch cult; it was rough with the dirt spiders; it was rough with the goddess image; it was rough at the Elior forest; and it was rough cleaning the graves too. Despite all that, you still fought with the witch cult at Pristella, and then Otto and the others di……still fought.]
>[Subaru: Otto nearly killed us back then.]
>“Otto died too much”. Amazingly enough, Subaru was in complete agreement with this, but he wished that he wouldn’t simply die. If Otto were to die, Subaru could no longer let himself die—not to exaggerate it as a friendship that would continue through death or anything like that, though.

His death obviously. This is an excerpt of arc 6. After he came back from a rather dangerous missions/expeditions and a war. Needless to say, Subaru after arc 3 is pretty based.
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>>149833164
I want to see him get mauled by Meili's demon beasts
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>All of this Roswaal hate

Now this is bashing
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>>149833399
What the fuck have they been getting up to? Holy shit.
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>>149833527
You can fuck right off then. Roswaal deserves anything and everything bad that's coming to him.
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>>149833527
He is kind of a low key arc villain. But fun to hate.
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>>149833321
I actually agree on this, but I think he did kind of enable and encourage her behavior because he liked the attention. I get the impression that was one of his motives
>>149833262
>>149833332
How does Roswaal's Gospel even work? Does he have a Witch Factor? Can just anyone read a Gospel so long as they have one? Or is Subaru's ability to read Pete's book more related to Sloth starting to settle down in his system, and Echidna's Witch Factor only helped that along like she said it would?

Would someone need to absorb a portion of Roswaal's soul to read the thing? The idea of Otto finding a way to become the new clown is just a little unsettling.
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>>149833531
Being labeled Rem's Hero does things to a man.
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Why are these things so expensive?
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The clown gave Ram an education, a roof over her head, and mana treatments every day.

She owes him for that.
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>>149833399
>it was rough with the goddess image
What? I don't really get what this is. Is this translated right?
>>149833599
He really is an hero.
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>>149833694
He treats her like his dog.
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>>149833597
>How does Roswaal's Gospel even work?
Not sure on how detailed it is. Pete's was pretty bare bones, but Roswaal's is supposedly better.

>Does he have a Witch Factor?
I doubt it because he doesn't seem to smell

>Can just anyone read a Gospel so long as they have one?
They're given out by someone and the intended recipient can read them. I don't even know for sure where the WC's come from, probably Pandora using incomplete methods.
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>>149833527
No fuck you Roswaal is an absolute asshat that deserves to be bashed. He even wanted to use Rem's death to break Subaru and use him. Fuck that guy and everything he stands for.
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>>149833694
Do you know what the clown also could have given her? Her fucking village and life back.
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>>149833735

Oh look another parallel to Subaru.

You can't like one but hate the other.
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>>149833735
He actually doesn't. Not that she would mind being treated like his dog. In day to day activities they seem to openly like each other, and they riff off each other constantly while exchanging knowing glances about situations. Now, the subtext here is that Roswaal thinks he's in a game with a crafty vengeful Oni and Ram just wants to ride the clown cannon.
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>>149833765
>He even wanted to use Rem's death to break Subaru and use him.
He didn't, unless you're talking about a future event where he targets Rem. His Gospel is likely not detailed enough to include things about Rem and if she was in there before she won't be in there now. There's no way to verify what he did or didn't know concerning Rem until she gets restored and Otto fixes and reads his Gospel.

In loop 4 of Arc 2 he was legitimately surprised she was killed, if only because he needs her to run his shit and it affects his pet oni.
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>>149833399
>[Subaru: If I were to disregard my feelings and think of it from a rational viewpoint…..anyone could be the one to wake her up. If something like a ridiculous disease of never being able to wake up were to spread, and if we were to only talk about saving them, I wouldn’t care about who’d be the one to develop a vaccine or a specific medicine for it. I wouldn’t care about the process, if it meant saving them.]
>[Petra: …..Yeah.]
>[Subaru: But if my feelings drive in, I want to do things my way. I want to be the one to save them. I want to be the the one to wake them up. I want to give it my all and save everything.]
>——-Thus, Natsuki Subaru would be the one to go.
>There were countless others who were stronger.
>There were countless others who were more reliable.
>There were countless others who were wiser.
>There were countless others of class who were more wonderful.
>But Natsuki Subaru would ignore all of that, and he would be the one to go. He did this only because he wanted to be praised by this girl after he saved her.
>[Subaru: Sorry for disappointing you with my selfishness.]

Based indeed
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>>149833597
They enabled each other so both get an even split of the blame. It's not really an exaggeration to say they're both a lot alike. In the mayo scramble chapter he even humorously and hypocritically whined that he wanted to be the one to complete the mayo on his own because he had low self esteem and sought praise not long after complaining Rem was getting out of hand. Like outright uses those words.
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>there are people actually defending the clown in this thread

What the fuck is wrong with you people.
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>>149833746
>probably Pandora using incomplete methods.
I get the feel the WC Gospels are intentionally incomplete. I suspect the Bishops receive information on a "need to know" basis, because the Gospels need to have access to more information than they let on for them to work. Whatever is behind them probably knows how the Bishops will act depending on the circumstances they're placed in, and the instructions are kept vague so not even the Bishops know what the fuck they're trying to do.
>>149833821
His cat, then. Every villain needs a cat.
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>>149833700
「わたし、心配です。スバル様っていっつもそう。初めてお屋敷にきて、村で会ったときからずっと。あんなにたくさん大変そうなのに、また休みもしないであちこち駆け回って……何もしない旦那様を見習ったらいいのに」
「いや、たぶん、ロズワールも俺らの見てないところで判子押すのに額に汗してたりすんだよ? 命の危険的な意味でなら、まぁ、役立たずは同感」
「魔獣のときも、魔女教のときも、土蜘蛛とか女神像とか、エリオール大森林のときもお墓掃除のときも大変で、それなのにプリステラでも魔女教とぶつかって、オットーさんたちまで死んじゃ……いかけたのに」
「危うく、またオットーが殺されてしまうところだった」
 オットー死に過ぎ。
 印象的には全くの同感ではあるのだが、あまり簡単に死なないでほしい。オットーに死なれると、ナツキ・スバルも死なないわけにはいかなくなる。
 死でも分かつことのできない友情、などと嘯くつもりはないが。
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>>149833945
Nah, his plan in the mayo chapter was to try and boost Rem's self esteem. Although he did whine a bit when he couldn't get anywhere with the mayo.
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>>149833959
People will find just about anything to defend these days
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>>149833969
>His cat, then. Every villain needs a cat.
Her spirit animal is a cat, and she sits on his lap while he pets her. It checks out.
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>>149833959
I don't want to say mentally inclined but I really wanna say mentally inclined
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>>149834060
That was his plan but he also had that as a goal so he could stop being seen as useless. I guess he didn't consider them conflicting.
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>>149833023
>Subaru went into agreement in response to Ram’s dismissive words.
>They ate up too much time outside the mansion. It wouldn’t be surprising for Frederica and even Roswaal to show up eventually if they ended up wasting any more time.
Candidates of the king’s election and the chief of the territory were gathered, but the question was what were they doing.
>[Subaru: Is Roswaal making his way towards the mansion?]
>Ram―who began walking to guide the others―tapped Petra’s shoulder to relieve her stiffness. When Emilia tried to call out to Ram from behind, she replied with a “Yes” without taking a look back.

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>[Ram: I’m all too familiar with the depths of men who lack composure. Barusu’s especially is one that has an open hole where your contents are being poured out, so you should be careful. To have people become aware of your depths and then finding out you’re empty inside is the worst.]

Why do I get the feeling that Ram wants out in her relationship with Roswaal?
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>>149833959
There are a lot of complicated characters in the story, and not understanding the clown for what he actually is makes it detrimental to understanding what is actually going on.

I'm all for memebashing the clown every now and again, but weird claims like that he abuses Ram on the regular reflect awfully on Ram and even Rem to a lesser extent for seemingly allowing it to continue. If he was actually beating her up there's no way Rem wouldn't notice and no way she would ignore it. Ram herself probably wouldn't have affection for him at all if he constantly berated her about being nothing more than a cocksleeve.

The clown is complicated and lies at the center of a lot of bullshit, so its important to know what is occurring without giving in to wild claims. He's quite bad enough as it without people making up more horrible things for him to do, and if you're gonna go that far you might as well just meme post and spam the vocaroo.
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>>149834205
>inb4 this is an actual plotpoint as to the reason why Ram is acting weird around Subaru in arc 6

Wait for it
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>>149806854
for laughs
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Echidna is a babe.

Probably not the last edit yet.
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>>149834314
Holy shit the edits are getting better
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>>149834205
>Why do I get the feeling that Ram wants out in her relationship with Roswaal?
I'd really need to see how Arc 4 goes down because I'm curious about what she already knows and what she finds out. She needs to just move on to Otto, clearly.
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>>149834240
>I'm all for memebashing the clown every now and again, but weird claims like that he abuses Ram on the regular reflect awfully on Ram and even Rem to a lesser extent for seemingly allowing it to continue. If he was actually beating her up there's no way Rem wouldn't notice and no way she would ignore it. Ram herself probably wouldn't have affection for him at all if he constantly berated her about being nothing more than a cocksleeve.

Okay well that actually makes sense. Yeah, it's dumb for the "clown is terrible" memers to blatantly make shit up like that. Since last I checked the only time he actively harmed Ram is when she burned his book.

But really though, the clown does deserve everything that is going to come for him. Even if I'm somewhat interested in his motivations myself.

>>149834314
Keep going anon, you're doing great work!
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>>149834330
I'm working in small steps, duh.
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>>149834240
>Ram herself probably wouldn't have affection for him at all if he constantly berated her about being nothing more than a cocksleeve.

Wasn't it stated that he does exactly just that? With Ram admitting to it while fighting with Roswaal?
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>>149834205
>Wanting out of that shitty relationship

Good, about fucking time she left that clowncuck
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>>149834366

This was kinda disappointing
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>>149834371
I don't know, translations aren't that far and I can't moon well enough. I'd be inclined to believe something like that is possible, but I'd rather not spam something that we can't readily verify. That way lies fake spoilers about Rem getting flayed alive, or raped, or cut to pieces by Pete.
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>>149834205
You underestimate her stockholm syndrome. She threatened to spank Barusu* for speaking lightly of Roswaal and said she wasn't kidding in arc 2.

*doujins when
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>>149833910
I guess that's true but Subaru really should have snapped his neck while strangling him when he had the chance.
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>>149834511
He was trying to be hardcore, but Garf wouldn't let him.
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>>149834511
He actually would have if it weren't for Gaaf. But the odd thing is Ram barely gave a shit that that actually happened to Roswaal even going against his orders and helping him during that loop as Big Boss. You can really see the hints of Ram's wavering faith to Roswaal in this regard.
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>>149834582
It was a few days later and they had other concerns. She said it would've been a problem if they had met earlier. Despite her prickliness Ram is a good person at heart.
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>>149834281
No. The pity fuck will not happen.
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>>149834655
Also she wasn't going against his orders, because at that point she was the one giving them. We don't know exactly what went down between them, but she didn't seem inclined to order the injured clown to help cover them from Garfiel, though it was within her power to do so.
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>>149834088
Yep. It's not too hard to read the intent. The only one Subaru got wrong was that Rem's probably more of a wolf, not a dog.
>>149834281
Eh. We'll have to see the actually shit translated when Lemonwater gets to it. However, I think one reason why Ram managed to get attached to coma Rem is that focusing solely on the clown is probably exhausting.
>>149834205
>Why do I get the feeling that Ram wants out in her relationship with Roswaal?
She left to go to a tower on a journey that would separate her from Roswaal for months. She probably wanted to take a break and find someone else to be close with.

I also remembered that characters have a habit of projecting in Re:Zero. What does Ram bitch at Subaru about? That he's not paying enough attention, or dedicating enough of himself, to Rem. She questions if he's truly earnest in his devotion or just a pervert with baser motives.
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>>149834314
you're doing a very nice work anon, everything for SCIENCE
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This show pisses me off.
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>>149834826

Why?
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>>149834833
Remfag.
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>>149834703
>She left to go to a tower on a journey that would separate her from Roswaal for months
Actually, how is she holding up? Was she overstating her need for regular hot mana injections before?
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>>149834880
She's probably been snorting mana stones, just like Subaru does to supplement his pisspoor mana pool
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>>149834869
>Not being a Remfag
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>>149835068

>Being a Remfag
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>>149835109
Bully, your mean words are going to make Rem cry.
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>>149834869
If you're answering for him you know early Subaru is enough to be too much for some people without even bringing waifu wars into the equation.
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>>149835145

S-sorry, I'm the last person to bully others, I'm sorry Rembro.
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>>149835145
Rem would just shitpost back, whiteknight Subaru about From Zero, and go find the nearest seasonal fujo show thread to lurk in.
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>>149835229
>and go find the nearest seasonal fujo show thread to lurk in.
She secretly redraws scenes so that they're all Subaru, and keeps a hidden stash of art that's just constant Subarus fucking other Subarus. Some of it is surprisingly detailed and accurate gore. Fortunately, it all vanished when Ley ate her name, so Petra will be the one to discover it while cleaning Rem's room before she gets back.
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>>149835407
>spoiler

Rem's sexuality is a spooky thing.
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>>149835047
Or they brought along a shit ton of that fruit.
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>>149830549
>even Betelguese gets talked a lot surprisingly.
That's because he was really fun.
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>>149836002
Yep. Just wait until it gets shared around the mansion, through to the village, and out into the greater world.
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Is Subaru the real final boss?
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>>149836106
Whoops. Replied to the wrong post. That was for: >>149835716
>>149836002
As for you. I actually like the art with Betelgeuse and Emilia. Somehow that just works for me.
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>>149836130
I will be sincerely surprised if Subaru doesn't wind up being the final boss
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>>149836130
To whom? Himself?
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>>149836278
To everyone else, obviously.

Post your final boss theme music for Subaru
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>>149836363
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4yERIoSplQ
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>>149834880
I bet you since Subaru can manipulate mana through spirit magic he's been supplementing her with mana himself.
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>>149836363

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQngg8iQipk
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>>149836449
So she's just moving on to the next guy that can give her mana? What a whore. Subaru better be careful or he might catch mana clown aids to go with his dragon aids.
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>>149836106
Oh man. That looks too rich, I wish a TLanon were around.
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>>149836363
FOR MY LOVE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ2dhK_oVi0
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>>149836449
Close, it's Emilia and Beatrice supplementing her with spirit magic.
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>>149836363
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJmdSpbqSyk

This song is too good for (hypothetical) Final Boss fights. I think it's an okay fit for a Dark Lord Subaru confrontation.

Shame it isn't the actual final boss music for that game
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>Meeting his mom face-to-face in the living room, Subaru sucks up some of the contents from the
mayo bottle and casually sets it on the table. Naoko tilts her head.
>Naoko: “We'll keep it a secret from Dad. Drinking Dad's mayonnaise... Look, don't you think it's
economical to taste the great flavour of mayonnaise and the flavour of Dad at the same time?”
>Looking as if she's feigning ignorance about not recognizing Subaru's hesitation, Naoko casually
glances back and forth between Subaru and the mayonnaise. Probably she wants some mayo just as
must as she wants to hear her son go on with this.
>Naoko: “Why are you being so touchy? Want some mayonnaise to calm down?”
>Naoko holds out a bottle of mayonnaise with an 'S' written on the cap, demarcating it as Subaru's
personal stash.
>Naoko sets the Subarunaise on the table and idly spins it around as she speaks. Subaru's throat
clamps shut in surprise.
>Naoko: “Okay Subaru, which would you choose, the world or mayonnaise?”
>That said, Subaru's status as a Mayolover is not in question. Whenever you ask what seasoning he's
going to go for it's mayonnaise. Mayonnaise for all fried foods. Snacks are mayonnaise flavoured
with extra mayonnaise spread on them.
>Subaru gives a sigh and reaches for the mayo on the table.
>He swallows down the once-full bottle of mayonnaise in one go, savouring the sour taste burning
down his throat. This, was the mayonnaise that mayonnaise junkies couldn't ever stop loving.
>By the way Subaru keeps a personal collection of all the caps of all the mayo bottles he's eaten in
his room. There's 776. And with this new guy, it's 777.

Fucking mayo boy Subaru. This is seriously disgusting.
I can get someone wanting to use it as a condiment, but you'd have to be a real animal to eat the shit straight from the bottle.
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>>149836547
That's good at least she has time to separate from the clown
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>>149836690
That's why a specific someone got rid of his mayo addiction. Thank god that aspect of Subaru didn't transfer onto this world.
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>>149836690
>This is the man whose cock Rem wants inside her
Really makes me you think
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>>149836507
Not Ram's fault she has been fucked by Stockholm Syndrome
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>>149834703
Are you saying Ram is venting her frustrations to Subaru because she sees her happiness lying with Rem and Subaru?
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>>149836758
He was sort of faking his mayo addiction. He isn't a true believer like his parents.
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>>149833996
Well shit
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>>149836847
The 777 caps don't lie.
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>>149836690
>>149836758
>Naoko: “After all, you don't really like mayonnaise.”
>Subaru goes silent.
>Naoko: “You just drank it with us because me and dad love mayonnaise.

Conveniently left out this part of that scene anon. I'm sure he thought it was nasty at first too, but just went along with it.

Though I find it hilarious how Beatrice in the AU got made fun of for it.
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>>149836781
>Implying you wouldn't

Wait for the battle-scars to don this body.
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>>149836363
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18SQxu-KtSo
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>>149836758
Only because her failed plan made her salty. Imagine the mayo bath succeeded though.
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>>149836870
That's how much he loves his parents. A true believer would have 7777
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>>149836363
>Subaru goes final boss
>Insert song plays
>Its not a big bad orchestral

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ6TUvY7XYs

If this plays while Subaru loses himself it will be absolutely heartbreaking.
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>mfw Whitefox is pretty based and will probably do a season 2
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>>149836363
Whatever the sappiest emo love song you can think of is
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>>149836363
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DO-VRaqxKI
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>>149837220
>mfw they fucked up and decided not to backpedal with happened in season 1 and replace everything with INTENSE FREINDSHIP
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>>149836921
>Implying 17 year old NEETs are this in-shape
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>>149837628
He should be after training with Clind for almost a year in combat and such. Plus he himself did say that he uses a lot of his free time to get /fit/
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>>149832318
>At the very least he hasn't emotionally manipulated her into loving him

he doesnt know
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>>149837628
He actively stayed in shape in Japan. His time in Luganica would have only made him /fit/er and scar-ier
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>>149837850
>scar-ier

We are finally getting fan-art of it
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