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Did something go wrong?
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SHAFT.
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This show makes me feel loved.
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>>149762841
The animals

And the adoptive father
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I wish the show had more shogi and less very very very cheap scenes of MC being very still inside his apartment, its almost like shaft concentrates very hard on making this show cost like 40 cents an episode to make
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Nothing, it's the best show of the season despite what Hibikefags or the Flip Flappers fanbase will tell you.
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>>149762940
Flip Flappers is definitely a better show, in spite of how much I like 3-gatsu
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>>149762841
Because the drama is fucking stupid. Also it feels like a fat old man were about to NTR the MC anytime.
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>Low ratings
>Low pre-orders
>Little discussion except for the occasional shitposting bait.
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nothing
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>>149762864
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>>149762988
All the best shows this season have threads that die early so that's a good thing.

The fan base isn't autistic enough to keep up a 24/7 general like the rest of the terrible shows that are airing.
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>>149762988
I don't want to talk about it with /a/. Or anybody really. It's not the kind of story that has a lot of room for analysis, it's just very good at releasing emotions. It's too personal to be discussed.
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It isn't Monogatari/Madokashit, i.e. SHAFT's only relevant shows.
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>>149762933
As someone who doesn't play shogi I'm glad that the focus isn't more on shogi.
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>>149762988
>sales = quality
this meme needs to die desu
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>>149763075
This is how I feel about an awful lot of gambling manga. Some day I'll bother to learn how to play mahjong, but until then I'm glad most asspulls have nothing to do with the game.
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>>149763038
There are no good shows this season.
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>>149763109
Flip Flappers.
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>>149762933
>implying a gaijin like you would understand shogi
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>>149763109
>being this wrong
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The loli is pretty shit
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>>149762997
3gatsu is the perfect example of how you can't judge the quality of the direction from a few pretty shots without context, despite what the retards in the "visual direction" threads seem to believe.
The show is a fucking mess of too many jump cuts, too many close ups and way too many abstract/artsy backgrounds.
A complete disaster and disgrace to one of the best manga around.
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>>149763075
the part where he solves the little puzzle being the only point in the series where the MC shows even a hint of actually completing a series of moves in shogi is probably gonna make me drop the series, every win and loss is just off camera bullshit and then more philosophizing. I can't even understand why he would be frustrated at a loss if we don't even get to see his playstyle get obliterated.
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>>149763143
Flip Flappers is incredibly mediocre outside of its visuals.
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The chapter by chapter adaptation is completely unnecessary. Two chapters for each episode simply divides the time for each chapter to about 10 minutes, and creates a jarring mood shift between the two halves. A good example so far was the latest episode slicing the ED in front of an entirely pointless "part 3".
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>>149763143
flip flop cunt lickers is flopping hard
Im glad the nips arent buying it
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>>149763185
I don't even know how shogi is played, I doubt most of us watching it do. So more focus would only harm the series
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>>149763237
It's just chess with a few extra rules. It's really not hard to understand.
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>>149763224
I guess Hibikekshit is AOTS then, since it's selling well.
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>>149763178
Based ushikawa
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>>149763257
>I guess Hibikekshit is AOTS then
There's actually a good amount of retards that believe this.
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>>149763237
Why is he even a pro shogi player then? He might as well be a fuckin male prostitute or a janitor. I resent getting baited into watching this show on a false pretense.
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>>149763289
I honestly did think the first season was AOTS of its time, but this season is so fucking weak comparitively.
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This show reminds me of honey and clover.
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>Visual direction of the season
Flip Floppers

>Character drama of the season
Hibikek2

>Plot of the season
Occultic;9
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>>149763307
Male prostitutes would have resented if he'd been one of their ilk. He had to be something for the story to have a premise.
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/a/ can't appreciate SHAFT.
Probably too insecure to enjoy something that's not your normal low budget anime.
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>>149763183
>The show is a fucking mess of too many jump cuts, too many close ups and way too many abstract/artsy backgrounds.
Now that's just wrong. There's only a few "artsy" shots each episode and they are conservative with the jump cuts. You fucking know deep down that you're only criticizing the editing because you know it's a shaft show. Anyone who says shit like "ohhh look at all this pretentious artsy shit" loses my respect immediately. If you aren't okay with a little creative art once in a while then go watch Micheal Bay you fucking ball licker. Why even watch a medium like anime?
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>>149763307
There's no such thing as a prodigy janitor that ruins his foster family's relationships
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>>149763348
Come on, we can at least agree that 3-gatsu's character drama is better than the trainwreck of Hibike's season 2
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>>149763360
But 3gatsu is your average low budget anime.
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>>149763375
It had more potential to be better and more complex but SHAFT can't into character drama without it looking cartoony and tryhard.
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>>149763362
This

The only episode that was really SHINBO'd was the last episode. But otherwise it's been pretty conservative.
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>>149763386
clearly it is not, see >>149763183
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>>149763420
It sounds more like you're letting your preconceived bias influence how you feel about the show
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>>149763366
Adopted kids have guilt about "ruining" their families all the time no matter what they do, I booted up this show expecting like 80% coming-of-age story 20% shogi. What I got was like 60% fat little girl faces, 38% coming-of-age story and 2% shogi.
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>>149763447
What is there to see? 3gatsu is your average low budget anime with the old SHAFT style directing.
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**1,135位/**1,567位 (***,690 pt) [*,**2予約] 2017/01/25 3月のライオン 1(完全生産限定版) [Blu-ray]

Poor SHAFT, first Kizuflop now 3gaflop.
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>>149763456
>and 2% shogi.
That's not even true. There's been shogi scenes every episode anyway. Compare it to something like Hibike's season where they've only played music in 1 out of 6 episodes. The ratio is much higher.
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>>149762841

It takes itself too seriously. It's like a memoir. A child with no personality detailing his past events in his life. Of course its' a shaft title so dick riders and anons with poor taste will say it is good.
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>>149763497
my original comment says "normal"
the complains about the direction means that the show is far apart from the other "normal" anime
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>>149763497

Low budget? of course it is. They spent a majority of their income on those monogatari films.
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>>149763555
If you've watched more than 5 SHAFT shows you'd see it as normal. That's editing style is all they do.
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>>149763545
>It takes itself too seriously

meanwhile, equally stupid shitposters call it "too silly" for the tonal shifts (which are well done)

yall fucking niggas crack me up
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>>149763539
People sitting at the shogi tables while narration is running is barely enough to qualify for 2% imo, they don't even bother animating the board state while the MC moans about shit every adopted kid goes through because obviously not many people watching care, but I did, and that's why I think the show is lame.
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The whole shaft constant cuts and closeups really loses its charm when they do it for every single show ever.
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>>149763362
Nice strawman.
Just because anime allows nearly infinite visual creativity, it doesn't mean you can throw any amount of inappropriate abstract/espressionistic visuals into a character drama grounded in reality and have a well directed product.
Shaft could have directed with moderation for once, but they didn't. Their obnoxious gimmicks are all over the place. And since the manga is beloved and celebrated, unlike the shit they usually adapt, fans are unhappy.
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>>149763534
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>>149763626
I think that's my issue with it. Drama moments are portrayed as way too dark it becomes tryhard, and the healing sections with the sisters come of as silly. Too much contrast, that's not inherently bad but I'm not really liking it.
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>>149763545
>It takes itself too seriously

But what's wrong with that? Sometimes it's nice to see drama played entirely straight. It's not being melodramatic, or forcing emotions on insignificant events. It's just very seriously dealing with common tragedies. I look forward to that somber feeling every week.
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>>149763626

You're funny.

>>149763684

Did I say there was anything wrong with that? Seriously, it's like you idiots love cherry picking when you don't see something you like. I don't recall saying anything bad about it. You idiots make me laugh.
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>>149763683
>Drama moments are portrayed as way too dark it becomes tryhard
like clockwork
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>>149763684

Looking forward to that somber feeling every week. Now you should just watch snuff films or get on some anti-depressants.
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>>149763348
Holy shit, someone here likes O;9
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>>149762841
the MC is an unsympathetic, unlikable fuck. it's also too depressing.
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>>149763782
I also like it, but I'm thinking about dropping it til its finished. It seems better to watch all in one go than the dripfeed.
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>>149763183
THIS
THIS
THIS
STUPID FUCKIN SHAFT
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>>149763880
I like it.
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>>149763183
The sad thing is that most of those shots look horrible in motion.
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>>149762841

Don't know, haven't watched it, don't care enough. Have fun /a/
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>>149763178

One of the few recent anime with a pulse. Just about everything else recently has been bland boring samey shit.
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>>149763968
Aside from those quick sakuga segments everything in Haikyuu looks as bland as your average seasonal show.
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>>149763905
The only reason the show looks occasionaly good is because the backgrounds themselves are really good, until Shaft ruins them with all the rest.
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>>149763183

Painfully underwhelming regardless of the visual direction.

Melancholy and depression, great theme for a country with one of the highest suicide rate.

MC has the personality of a brick and the dialogue filled narrative with monotone speech is like listening to boring lecture.

Face it children, this is the worst shit Shaft has put out in a since He is My Master.

Not to mention it's not like any of you are going to support the series; let alone remember it after the season.
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>>149764066
Koufuku Graffiti was worse
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>>149764120
Megaflop City Actors was worse
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Those who have seen a lot of SHAFT things say that it is good.

Those who read the manga say it is not.

I have never read the manga and I have not seen anything from SHAFT. My opinion is: it's hard for you to get involved with the character's pain when the fucking editing doesn't stop for a second. Cut this, cut that. Fuck.
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>>149764136
Yes
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>>149764066

Wishing someone would.

>>149764120


You get the idea though.
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Dropped it at epsiode 6.
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>>149764066
>Melancholy and depression, great theme for a country with one of the highest suicide rate.
It's a story about family and about overcoming the adversities life reserves.
>Not to mention it's not like any of you are going to support the series; let alone remember it after the season.
The manga has a huge following and won a number of prestigious prizes, of course it will be remembered, despite the poor job Shaft has done.
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>>149764001
>everything in Haikyuu looks
>looks

So you haven't watched it? Why don't you then? It's contender for AOTY has had amazing production values for almost 60 episodes
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>>149764213
The manga will be remembered, the anime will be forgotten. It's not the first time SHAFT has been given a popular franchise to ruin.
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>>149764213

No! No! stop trying to defend it boy. The manga part in your response is the only thing that's somewhat true.
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>>149764257

It's not going to be the last either.
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As usual the salt against Shaft is funny to watch
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>>149764251
Sure thing.

>Barely 70 entries on sakugabooru after 60+ episodes
>Nichijou has 120
>Mob has 130
>Flip Flappers has currently 50
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This show going to Aniplex who then handed it out to SHAFT to animate just because of political reasons and favoritism towards the studio simply wasn't a good idea in the first place. You're basically mixing a studio that has exclusively done Aniplex's otaku bait late night anime type projects for years now and a fanbase that has come to expect those sorts of things with a more mainstream family friendly albeit feels bait manga that should probably belong in the hands of a TMS or Artland or something along those lines and expecting it to be a good match.

If anything I'm more surprised it isn't completely and utterly a shit show rather than just thoroughly mediocre. Everything about this anime adaptation was hopeless from the beginning but when you have an industry where Aniplex is seen as the only possibly producer choice for something like Sangatsu because it's a best seller and apparently only Aniplex can be allowed to handle that sort of thing in anime form despite being all but completely out of touch with mainstream Japan it just shows how fucked up the perspective is. They should have done this adaptation years ago when other better options might have presented themselves and the industry wasn't so hopelessly corporatized and limited in it's thinking and approach.
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>Believing in SHAFT.
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>>149764362
They should have just put together the H&C anime staff and hand it to them.
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>>149764465
SHAFT can't recover after this. Shitbo's "career" is over.
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Here's the ultimate question: How's the manga sales doing?

We all know this is just a glorified ad. Is it succeeding?
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>>149764339
Anyone who has seen Haikyuu will tell you that's extremely consistent and polished, along with having a ton of volleyball sakuga each episode. Go watch the fucking show instead of looking at a website. Consistency is something that won't get an entry there
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>>149764584
>Extremely consistent
>keeps posting the same 6-7 webms every time

Okay
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>>149764644
I could funnel haikyuu sakuga at you all day if I wanted
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>>149764584
>>149764644
Haikyuu!! has one of the best adaptations of the WSJ in years. Pacing, visuals, soundtrack. I wish Boku's anime had such a quality (damn you, Bones!).
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>>149764706
Do it
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>>149764584
>>149764706
Really a shame they waste all the good sakuga on gay shit.
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>>149764746
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>>149764759
How about you watch the fucking show? It has a ton of cute girl managers

>>149764746
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>>149764830
wrong webm, opening is cheating
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>>149764830
I watched the first season and while it was slightly above average in sakuga, it wasn't all that impressive or consistent either like you claim.
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>>149762841
In my humble opinion, it's the best show this season
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>>149764777
This doesn't even count. It's barely anything.
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>>149764879
contrarion
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>>149764905
it's a cool, smooth bit of animation with great direction, stop complaining
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>>149765085
It's not good. Literally the second half of the clip is a camera pan with a ball moving with static people. The other clips you're posting are at least pretty good, so I'm not even complaining.
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Just because it doesn't live up to your expectations of being about shogi doesn't mean it's bad.

It's a show about isolation and how the MC is learning to reconnect with the people around him after a bunch of horrible experiences and disconnecting from everyone in his life.

You could call it a boring generic premise, it comes down to opinion really, but its execution is pretty well done.
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>>149764504

Except it's 2016 where Japan thinks the solution to anything to do with a best selling popular manga/game/LN is to hand it to Aniplex to hand to A-1 or Shaft to crank out an uneven anime adaptation adaptation of with one of a handful of appeals and focuses none of which tend to involve making a show enjoyable to watch for the non-late night anime otaku crowd. They're literally only good at otaku bait marketing and hiring freelance animators quickly these days.
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>>149765172
And you can get all of that from the manga. We're criticizing the way Shaft adapted the manga for the anime, not the premise of the franchise. Try reading the thread next time. Just because the source material is an award-winning work doesn't mean the adaptations will be anywhere near as good.
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>>149765121
>The other clips you're posting are at least pretty good,
oh fuck off you haughty bastard. The anime shows in recent times I think of with this amount of sakuga is MP100, kyoani stuff, and a few others. (I haven;t seen Kuroko but it's also by I.G and I;ve seen some impressive webms) You also have to consider that this shit almost 60 episodes long with no real quality drops and might get a 4th season
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>>149765228
> We're criticizing the way Shaft adapted the manga for the anime, not the premise of the franchise

This is an outright lie. There's criticism of both in here, and if we bothered to count, it might be more of the latter.
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>>149762841
What's with the talking animals? I was on board all the way until the fucking cats started talking. Then in a later episode a dog starts talking too. What the hell is going on with this show? I'm not sure if I'm supposed to take it seriously or not.
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>>149765370
>moments of levity in a drama
>what?
>what??????????????
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>>149765370

Are you literally autistic?
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>>149763178
Damn right
>mfw throughout the whole 4th episode of currently airing season
>that fucking ending with Tsuki
Easily of one of the best episodes of this year.
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>>149765228
Overly vague shitposts with no substance that can be applied to any shaft show isn't a real criticism.
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>>149762841
I can ask you that.

What went wrong? As far as I know nothing
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>>149765393
>>149765428
I understand that the author wanted to have comic relief, but to throw random talking animals for shits and giggles into a realistic setting about shogi is just fucking idiotic. Could have relegated the comic relief to Momo and Hinata since they're pretty much non-characters at the moment.
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>>149762988
>low ratings
Retard, it's been having great ratings in it's timeslot.

>>Low pre-orders
Completely irrelevant for NHK
>>Little discussion except for the occasional shitposting bait.
/a/ is irrelevant
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>>149764139
I agree with you, but
>I have never read the manga and I have not seen anything from SHAFT.
How fucking new.
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>>149765622
You're actually autistic, aren't you?
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>>149763534
Blu Rays are irrelevant for NHK
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>>149765632
>it's been having great ratings in it's timeslot.
Proofs?
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This is a government funded show so ratings and sales don't matter too much.
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>>149764139
>Those who read the manga say it is not.

No, they generally don't. It's a good adaptation, I just noticed one or two people forcing the comparison to the Honey and Clover anime.
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>>149765778
>a natural comparison to the adaption of the previous work of the author, that is generally considered an improvement of the source material is somehow "forced"
ok
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>>149762841
It's honestly kino, so /a/utists can't appreciate it as they cant into empathy and human emotions.
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>>149765632
It's dropped off the top 10 in anime ratings after episode 1. We don't really know how bad its doing since weekly ratings don't track anything below top 10
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>>149765622

Dude you are indeed autistic. Go watch your super serious realistic cartoons queer.
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We haven't had a visual direction thread in a couple of days.
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>>149766214
Good, let's keep it this way.
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I was considering picking this up, hoping it would be similar to Chihayafuru or Hikaru no Go in terms of game-playing.

I take it this is incorrect?
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>>149762864
I watched the first episode and was completely put off by SHAFT's pretentious styling. This show didn't need that. This isn't a damn monogatari series. Just show me a good drama without the fluff fillers.
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>>149766323
Shogi to 3gatsu is what light music is to K-On.
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>>149766323
Those are sport manga, this is a character drama.
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>>149762841
Is he gay or is it just me? I got the feeling he is into older men but is too deep in the closet to realize, I mean the last thing he needs is to realize he is a faggot.
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>>149765635
Okay, to tell you the truth, I've seen bits of some titles, but I've never watched a whole show of them.
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>>149763634
>shit every adopted kid goes through
Being adopted because you're extremely skilled at something by a father who is obsessed with that thing and seriously would deprive his own children of his attention because they're not good enough at that thing?
That's the only way an adoption can play out? And even if it were a completely common problem I could't be interested in that for which reason exactly?
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>>149766408
He is a masochist and wants to fuck her onee san, and btw she is into older men
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>>149766898
>and btw she is into older men
And fatties.
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>>149766906
You are wrong, he is talking about kyoko, not akari
Akari isnt even the love interest
For now its himari but its pretty fucking obvious kyoko is the endgame
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>>149766906
She is a fatty herself.
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>>149766906
>>149766981
He is talking about kyoko, not fatkari
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>>149762841
The source material just isn't that good, despite what fans of this mangaka will tell you. She has some good ideas, but the way she does dialog and drama is still immature even if melodramatic idiots think that "It has sad things like when I grew up! It's so realistic and mature!"
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>>149766906
>>149766981
>they think I was talking about akari
Fucking secondaries, I was talking about kyoko
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>>149762864

Your image is a perfect example of why I can't stand Shaft. Trying too hard to imitate fish eye lens, too 'perfect' in scene composition (goes out of their way to ignore the rule of thirds) and washed out colors. Then at random times, they'll completely flip all of that and go into the anime equivalent of expressionism.
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Shaft is a special type of garbage
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>>149762841
Emo fagboy scenes drawn out too long.
Not enough of the girls, especially Hina, and no fanservice of her.
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