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Yu-Gi-Oh! Arc-V

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This Yuzu vs Yuya arc really saved the ratings! Thank god we got the budget back!
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>>149726210
>People thought we were getting Yuya vs brainwashed Yuzu
>Yuzu died in a tube while Yuya was stuck to a pillar whining
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>>149726330
>Ono's face when
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What card is it, /a/rc-v?
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>>149726445
At least Yuya getting pinned to a pillar did answer why nobody has used a carded person in a duel.
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>>149726445
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Zappa Gou did nothing wrong.
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>Yuzu dies without fanfare or last words because she's been knocked out
>Yuya barely sane and stuck to a pillar didn't get to see this action
>Ruri will vanish just as quickly as Yuzu will without Yuto seeing this action
>Edo and Kaito's actions in the duel did nothing but make Yugo lose his backrow so Yuri could fuck him
>Half the episode wasted on a duel that had sloppy motivations, plays and will be inconclusive
>2 episodes of Yusho stalling the plot some more to die then 2 week break for the first half of December

They couldn't make it more clear they couldn't give less of a fuck about this show unless they randomly had Jack,Gon,Sawatari and Shun be carded by the academia students could they?
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>>149726581
A shame he left too soon. Guy seemed liked the only one that cared about characters.
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>>149726210
I'm legit pissed this is the only duel we got from them. Although if Ray does turn out to be corrupt i.e she likes inflicting pain to zarc, then I guess we technically got the villainous heel.
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>Yuya combines with Yuri and Yugo
>Zarc revives still stuck to the pillar
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Someone post those comics again from last thread. with Yuto and Ruri flirting while the other Yus and Rurs are watching them
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>>149726672
man do you think this show can do anything right

im rooting for yuya to die

no not heroically

die like a bitch

BAD END for Arc-V
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>>149726751
>I know how we can get the fans on our side!
>Lets have the protagonist pinned to a tr-pillar by sacred arr- knives for several episodes!
>That way he can do nothing while the plot falls into place with the help of filler!
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>>149726887
>oh and lets kill off the main heroine!
>anti-climatically!
>without the MC even seeing!
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>>149726914
>Kept the MC possessed
>Heroine unconscious
What were the writers thinking? Do they not know what an emotional send off is?
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On the bright side we just have to sit through 2 more episodes and then we get new YGO news.
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>>149727029
They've gone lazy to the point and couldn't care less if people would get pissed off with the poor execution.
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Can you imagine if the next 2 episodes have Yuya and Yuto blissfully unaware that Yuzu,Ruri, Rin and Serena have already become one and revived Ray? Ugh, I can see it already Yusho loses, Yuya gets down from the pillar finally and the episode ends with Yuya vs Yuri getting ready to start capping off the year.
They still owe us that duel, Yuya's va was suppose to be excited about it. But because Ono and the duel hater don't give no fucks it wouldn't surprise me if Yuya continued being stuck to the pillar and after Yusho loses and is carded Zarc takes over Yuya and Yuri and becomes one as the episode ends.
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>>149727029
From the looks of it no. Next episode Ruri is dying like a bitch with no one to witness it, Rin is following after that.
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>>149727207
>Can you imagine if the next 2 episodes have Yuya and Yuto blissfully unaware that Yuzu,Ruri, Rin and Serena have already become one and revived Ray?
Anon, Reiji's and Reira's duel wouldn't drag around like Yuri and Yugo
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>>149727207
Can you imagine if the next 2 episodes have Yuya and Yuto blissfully unaware that Yuzu,Ruri, Rin and Serena have already become one and revived Ray?
I think that's what they're going for.
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I just realised everybody in standard are probably dead or in Arc-V right now.
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>>149727362
Sorry, I'm all kinds of angry right now and not typing properly
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>>149727782
Gomensai Kotori-dono
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>>149727896
Is this worth reading? I tried to watch the anime but the main character annoys me as much as that punk Tsuna from Hitman Reborn did.
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>>149727951
>not liking Tsuna
The show was trash and the ending was terrible, but Tsuna was fine
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>>149727951
Deku is unironically one of the best MCs that ever happened to shounen manga. Give it a chance, he becomes less of a crybaby as time passes
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No series will ever surpass Arc-V in terms of being a disappointment and making its fanbase asshurt beyond belief.
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How many episodes until this shitfest ends?
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>>149728279
Many will and many already did. The difference is Japan is way too butthurt and whinning about it.

I mean, like those idiots have any semblance of a taste. Arc-V sure is a disappointment, but we have hundreds of harems, shounen and isekai that deserve to be at a lower place than it
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>>149728350
At most, 20. More likely 10-15.
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>>149728400
>Can't even defend Arc-V
>Just bitches about other shows instead
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>>149728530
When you compare shit to shit, how are you able to defend shit?

You can't

It's a matter of the shittier
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>>149728400
>harems, shounen and isekai

You're missing the point. No one is comparing Arc-V to that kind of anime. They're comparing Arc-V to how other YGO series were produced, as it should be. Just because Keijo has better ratings than Arc-V doesn't necessarily mean it's a better show. But it does mean that Keijo did a better job of satisfying its audience. That's what the ratings really mean at the ends of the day: how satisfied the audience of that particular show is.
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No matter what gets made next it can't possibly be worse than Arc-V.
It's literally impossible.
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I can't take this seriously anymore
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>>149713101
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>>149728586
Those shows make their fans happy. Arc-V doesn't make its fans happy.
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>>149728920
That's what people said about Zexal. NAS can and WILL find a way.
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>>149728920
They will put fanfic writers to be the writers
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>>149727029
They just don't care anymore.
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Is that blood?
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Why is it sometimes it seems like losing life points really hurts, but other times not at all?
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>>149728938
If you try taking GX seriously before like eps 111-180, you will absolutely despise the garbage you see. And even then it doesn't really hit its stride until the latter half of Yubel arc.
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>>149729079
Arc-V is already fanfiction.
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>>149728400
It's not about taste though. It's simply how happy an anime's dedicated watchers are.

The nips who go way out of their way for idol shows and stuff like that probably have very little overlap with the audience who go out of their way for Yugioh. Are you delusional enough to think then nip Yugioh audience even holds the anime to that high of a standard? It says a lot if Arc-V manages to make even them mad with how bad it is.
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IT WAS ME, DD!

>>149729312
I took it seriously for about two episodes, but the rest is crap. I look forward to season three since you all have hyped it and the show has been getting better.
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>>149729239
Depends on how serious the duel is.
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>>149729239
Im assuming its based on different factors, like whether or not its in an action field, what level of 'hardness' the monsters are, how much damage the player takes, what form the damage is in, and whether or not it was a direct attack or effect damage or damage from battle.
For example, the LDS trio was sent flying and rendered unconscious from Shun because he hit them for thousands upon thousands of overkill damage.
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>>149729321
It's not fanfiction. That's why it's sad.
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>>149729481
Don't set your expectations too high. I wouldn't call most of it great. But, it's better.
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>>149729481
Wait, how did they deal with DD killing Edo's father in the dub? I'm assuming dad wasn't dead?
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>>149729626
He was kidnapped.
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>>149729688
What the fuck? How? His body is laying on the floor?
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>>149729727
Its called editing anon
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>>149729727
They shopped out his body.
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>>149729727
That was MS painted out, IIRC.
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>>149729850
>>149729859
>>149729842
So does he return ever or is he just gone forever?
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>>149729905
He's just gone. Judai/Jaden never comes back, either.
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>>149729197
No, it's tomato juice.
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Alright, things the next series can use then:

Duel Monsters - It estabilished the whole games are important, and has the whole alter-ego incarnation spirit inside, so I guess even it's re-used, can be used again. I would rather not though.

GX - We have alternate dimensions where duel monsters come from, duel monsters spirits and duel monsters playing duel monsters. If this goes a bit more into fantasy, we can have some sort exploration more of that, or stuff like a tournament with duel monsters spirits participating too.

5D's - well, we have time-travelling in it. Mystical entities related to duel monsters that needed to be stopped and stuff like that. Guess if we were to get villains, Dark Signers arc would be a start.

Zexal - Vector. Also, the whole Heaven and Hell thing, with the backstories of the villains being reincarnation and stuff.

Arc-V the ride went uphill and downhill. But let's remember the uphill: the whole four dimensions related to summonings is a nice concept and so is the alternate counterpart thing. While legacy character using failed a lot after synchro (as much as synchro was a mess, Crow and Jack were handled well), I would say using previous characters would be great if it was in a more subtle way, like mentioning a duelist that stood alone against darkness itself, or stuff like that clown mayor appearing quickly to watch the duel.

The thing the next series can't, absolutely, no way ever do is try to combine all those fucking concepts at the same time. It would be begging for a mess and shit to hit the fan. It would be worse than Arc-V cause we were already fooled once with great stuff being great then going to shit
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>>149729928
Is 4kids the worst thing to ever happen to Japan?
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>>149730005
A lot of that was introduced in DM
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>>149730005
Arc-V was too ambitious with it's scope. That was it's downfall.
Naturally, the next series will scale down things a notch.
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15 new cards! Set contains cards from

Standard

Yuya
Yuzu
Gongenzaka
Sawatari
Reji
Tsukikage
Hikage

Xyz

Yuto
Shun
Ruri
Kaito

Synchro

Enjoy
Yugo
Rin
Jack
Crow

Fusion

Yuri
Serena
Dennis
Sora
Edo
Asuka

Out of all of these Yuya,Yuzu,Sora, Reji,Yugo,Shun,Rin and Sawatari have been given new cards.

Who do hope will get the last 7?

I personally believe it will be


Yuto
Yuri
Ruri
Serena
Gongenzaka
Dennis
Enjoy
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>>149730105
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>>149730170
>Hikage
Who?
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>>149729928
Until the movie happened which most Dub watchers even today so don't know why.
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So how did they do this if he was kidnapped?
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>>149730032
Some might say yes, others would say Ono is.
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>>149730212
Tsukikage's brother. don't worry, most of the people on that list have reprints like a good majority of that list, through while they listed Crow and Asuka there aren't any cards for them yet.
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>>149727896
Ochako is right now at the verge of becoming Synchro Yuzu

She had her cool moment in the first tournament and has done nothing of note since

Is this like some weird sign of Feminist themes "kinda" penetrating the shounen genre but not really? Remember we had Jean give this who speech about gender not mattering in duels... right before rigging the duel for Selena just to see her lose anyways

Cause I'll be honest let's shit or get off the pot. Go full Kotori or have them be cool, don't fuck with out expectations only to disappoint us
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>>149730212
Ninjabro #2
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>>149730374
Yuzu becoming lame was Zappa Gou leaving.
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>>149730212
Tsukikage's brother who looks exactly the same as him, except he's wearing red instead of blue.
He used very few cards, but most of them seem to be the same as Tsukikage.

He was carded by Sora in the end of the first year of the show.
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>>149730170
>mfw Tsukkikage, Hikage, Kaito, Jack, Crow, Edo, and Asuka get the last 7 new cards
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>>149730767
It's not nice to laugh at jobbers getting cards
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>>149730808
>Jack
>jobber
The guy lost one duel in the entire show.
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>>149730170
Why even bother mentioning Hikage at all when when he has the exact same deck as his brother who actually got screen time.
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>>149730860
In THIS entire show
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>>149730168
Arc-V wasn't too ambitious at all. It was needlessly extended (without seemingly any budget increase to compensate) to the point that the plot had to be stalled with bullshit for a full year, resulting in Ono going full Ono-mode and getting lazy about doing his job like he always does with long running shows, moments that would allow for character interaction being tossed at us piecemeal, and all the assorted misc bullshit we've had until now.

Arc-V was fucked by its production crew's laziness and shortsightedness, lack of budget, and the execs commanding it. Not its scope.
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Couldn't wait for Mono anymore and just caught up
I don't even. I'm still trying to process this shit

Leo's goal is fucking retarded.
Leo is a complete retard
Why did no one put laws in place for the duels in the previous world
Zarcs goal/motivation is completely retarded
Every person from the previous single world is a retard. No wonder Zarc murdered them all.
Leo being the only person who recovered his memories is stupid. How did fucking no one else notice their memories were missing.
Doctor carded with no duel
Yuzu being brainwashed accomplished nothing. She might as well have been knocked out his whole time.
yuzus trapped AGAIN
Reiji was useless.
Yuuya essentially devolved into "don't worry guys i can suppress zarc" "I WILL KILL YOU ALL"
Leo has the Fusion Pendulum
Yuuya's pinned to a wall by his dad
Yusho just saved Leo
Yusho is a terrible dad.
Sora saved for no reason
Yugo vs Yuri interrupted AGAIN
Edo and Kaito were useless.
Yuzu turns into dust
Reira can read minds.
Reira can talk to ghosts
Ray is a ghost now
Reiji is useless
All the duels were garbage.
Yugo vs Yuri was a god damn disappointment.

No wonder this show has the worst ratings on Nico. Has it taken up all ten slots yet?
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>>149730374
Jean rigged her duel because he wanted to use her as a bargaining chip, if I recall correctly. It had nothing to do with gender.
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>>149731133
Well, my dubdub getting friend, we're hoping that Arc-V gets there. We currently hold 9 I think.
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>>149730964
>First arc has the show giving the cast a more evenly divided spotlight than any other YGO show before, instead of devolving into a Power Trio circlejerk as usual
>Yuzu is very much a female deuteragonist
>then you add legacy characters and a plot that literally expands multiple dimensions with multiple nods to previous series
>Arc-V wasn't too ambitious

We will have to agree to disagree.
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>>149728015
>but Tsuna was fine
HE
NEVER
DEVELOPED

Even in the last fucking chapter of the manga he kept saying HURR DURR I CAN'T BE A BOSS OF THE MAFIA.
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>>149730374
>this shit again

Do you ever stop?
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>>149731401
That's why I said the ending was trash. He had development and character, but the show fucked it up.
Kind of reminds me how terrible Panty and Stocking's ending was.
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Suckers! I will be watching the episode subbed rightaway while you have to wait since it isnt in english yet!

Which basically means your being cucked from getting cucked like me!
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>>149731544
>[PoS] Yu-Gi-Oh Arc-V 131 [720p]

Do you know how much of a faggot you like look right now.
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>>149731544
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God damn it, Reiji.
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>>149732037
He is going to get an action card and be safe, reira used one so is fair game.
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>>149730303
The scene with his father soul inside Bloo - D was the same.
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Is it actually blood or is it just weird coloring?
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>>149730374
>She had her cool moment in the first tournament and has done nothing of note since
Sup speedreader-kun. Its time for you fags to just admit that Yuzu was going to be nothing more than a love interest and wasn't set up for anything other than being a normalfag duelist. This outcome was predictable because YGO has never done female characters well, they either get lamer and get shafted so they're best as supporting roles.
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>>149732225
I actually built a melodious deck irl. I still hurts and now she is also dead.

but I will have my fun once DDD structure comes out and this time Konami won't stop me
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>>149732319
I just want to know how they'll handle a female lead for the 6th series. Will they learn from Arc-V and just relegate her to supporting role to avoid all this mess again.
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>>149732176
Weird coloring because of it is on the bottom left.
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>>149732098
>I kidnapped your father and his body is stuck inside of this monster
O-okay
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>>149732388
Depends on who's in charge. To me, it never hurts to try and see if they can truly go to new heights instead of starting great to shaft out of sheer laziness because a director stop caring.
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Is it me or is the series prepping up for one final Arc, an Arc-V if you will.
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>>149732863
Leo pls
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I want to fuck Ray
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>>149733099
Is that Reira's motivation?
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>>149733163
If so, he instantly becomes the most relatable and well developed character in the show.
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>>149733163
Reira is pure and devoid of sexual thoughts.
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>>149733099
Are you an otouto?
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What are your hopes for 6th series staff?

Mine is:

Director - Hiroshi Hamasaki (Texhnolyze, Steins;Gate)

Series Composition/Script - Chiaki Konaka (Digimon Tamers, Lain)

Duel Writer - Nakamura Satoshi (Vanguard s1)

Chief Animation Director - Hidekazu Ebina (Zexal, Arc-V, DSOD)

Chararcter Design - Shuji Maruyama (5Ds)

Sound Director - Yuki Matsuoka (Zexal, Arc-V, DSOD)

Music - Yukata Minobe (5Ds)

Original Character Design/Series Supervision/Planning - Kazuki Takahashi
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>>149733245
Actually, yes I am.
And weirdly enough my older brother runs a ddd deck
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>>149730964
DM remasterized and the movie was a mistake
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>>149733303
Anyone but Ono and Yoshida
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>>149730170
come come superheavy broken support and pendulum ninjas *-*
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>>149733224
There's nothing impure about /ss/.
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>>149733245
no even best pocky
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>>149733303
Director - Katsumi Ono

Series Composition/Script - Yoshida Shin, Kamishiro Tsutomu

Duel Writer - Yoshida Shin, Kamishiro Tsutomu

Chief Animation Director/Sound Director/Music - Whoever is free

Character Design - Hiroki Harada

Original Character Design/Series Supervision/Planning - not Kazuki Takahashi
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>>149733303
>>149734445
>implying Kaz could actually supervise an anime
He's a mangaka. He hasn't actually worked on GX or DSoD. He's just listed as a contributor 'cause crediting the original mangaka sells.
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>>149734445
Confirmed worst YGO.
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>>149734589
You mean best, right? They're sure to get right this time, after failing three times, or twice in Ono's case.
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>>149734576
>Hasn't worked on DSoD

Except he did. He's credited as Original Concept, Script, Storyboard, Character Design, Chief Production Supervisor, Key Animator, and Executive Producer. He's got experience now so he can actually supervise the next series.
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>>149734668
I don't think so. He'd have to put in a lot more work, as the staff will obviously be less qualified than for DSoD.
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>>149734640
Nah. Ono has proven he has no talent and he's a lazy piece of shit who doesn't care. Yoshida has always been a hack rehashing the same shit over and over again. Kamishiro can't write a YGO series to save his life since he hates duels and can't handle characters properly.

We need new blood plain and simple.
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>>149734640
People don't change on a dime, anon
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>>149734785
>the staff will obviously be less qualified

The Zexal staff did DSOD. They're almost certainly going to work on the next series so they're qualified.
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>>149734787
>Nah. Ono has proven he has no talent
Funny, if 5D's ended at episode 64 we'd be hailing him as the greatest genius in the history of YGO.
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>>149734787
Atsuhiro Tomioka isn't on Pokemon Sun & Moon, right? Maybe he's free.

NAS has to find a writer who's
>willing to work on Yugioh and work with its deadlines
>willing to expect some possible executive fuckery and interference
>willing to not get too buttblasted about compromising creative integrity
>is a good writer who gives a shit
Well.
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>>149734832
But it didn't and he just used Kaz's ideas. We've seen even working on shorter anime like Symphogear is a problem for him. Those shows are 12-13 episodes and he handles them like shit.
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>>149734832
Except Dark Signers ending was garbage so it would confirm more than anything he's a hack. I might be more inclined to believe you if you said episode 26.
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>>149734830
The only Zexal staff who mattered was Kuwabara, the director. He could come back for the 6th series and the producers would probably be fine with that, but he could also 'graduate' to better opportunities
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>>149734915
>he just used Kaz's ideas
He did use Kaz's ideas to an extent(as in, concepts), but I assume that he still came up with most of what made Dark Signers great in the first place. Kaz can't have come up with Godwin, Kiryu and all the meaningful character interactions. And anyway, the best part of 5D's was the Fortune Cup and Kaz had nothing to do with it. It was 100% Ono.
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will the next yugioh series have thinly veiled holocaust references?
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>>149735009
>It was 100% Ono.

Nope. That was all Tomioka. The direction for Fortune Cup was nothing special, the tightly paced writing and great character interaction is what made it great.
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>>149733303
>Chief Animation Director - Hidekazu Ebina
You want Ebina to almost never direct episodes ever again?
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>>149735058
He needs to step up and start leading so we can get other amateur animators to flex their muscles and gain experience.
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>>149735052
>The direction for Fortune Cup was nothing special
I beg to differ. Ono clearly knew what he was doing back then.
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>>149734959
>The only Zexal staff who mattered was Kuwabara,

>forgetting the great animation talent
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>>149733303
Rate my show
Director - Ono (post-5Ds ep 64)
Series Composition/Script - /a/rc-v
Duel Writer - /dng/
Chief Animation Director - gooks
Chararcter Design - Yu-Shawn guy
Sound Director/Music- SUPER DRAGON
Original Character Design/Series Supervision/Planning - no one, just make shit up
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>>149735087
Except that Yugioh relies a lot on outsourcing, and there's little to no motivation for those supposed amateurs to actually do a decent job instead of what's barely passable (if even that). Especially if they're working on other shows at the same time and getting paid more for them.

This is absolutely nothing like Kyoani who actually invests to train their staff up to a certain level of competence. What the next Yugioh would need is good networking and connections to grab people who already prove that they're decent.
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>>149735135
>Series Composition/Script - /a/rc-v
Are we doing the Spirit thing?
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>>149735114
And only 1 of those great talents came back for Arc-V. Where are the rest? Probably prepping the next series since Arc-V is a lost cause
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>>149735094
Yeah because it wasn't a particularly hard story arc to direct. It was pretty linear and self-contained story.
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>>149735114
Takahiro Kagami, the most important animation guy, only did 1/2 of an episode of Zexal as a favor before jumping in full-time for DSOD
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Why is she so perfect lads?
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>>149735317
Ponytail
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>>149726210
save rating my ass
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>>149726210
>Yuzu vs Yuya arc really saved the ratings

did they? they're pretty terrible couple. all they did is call each others name while people is calling yuya for help because shit was happening. yuzu keeps getting herself in trouble like a dumbass

>oh look an enemy invasion
>maybe i should stay put and listen to people
>fuck that i'm going to help yuya

>oh look my friends are in trouble
>better look for yuzu
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>>149735317
unwittingly lewd
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>>149735374
>not being able to tell that the OP is being entirely facetious
Dumb ESL
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>>149735365
I can't save it if I don't have an ass to rate.
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>>149735414
i don't visit this threads on a regularly basis. i wouldn't know if it was sarcasm
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>>149735317
Thighs
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>>149735584
lies
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>>149735009
>Fortune Cup and Kaz had nothing to do with it.

Based on this, it seems a good amount of ideas he had for 5Ds were utilized until the end of Dark Signers. Obviously specifics like certain characters, interactions, etc were the staff, but he more or less provided the blueprint up to that point.
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Huh, so Kaz was responsible for Supreme King Judai after all. He also finds Judai more appealing than Atem or Yusei so that's pretty cool too.
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>>149735025
We already have one.
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>>149735814
>He also finds Judai more appealing than Atem or Yusei
Now we know how much of a shit character he is
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>>149733649
no fuck you
Arc was shit since the beginning
go suck Ono's cock as a thank you and be grateful he ruined your shitty series
original Yugioh will forever be the absolute best
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>>149735814
>Even Kaz loves Judai

Great taste
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>>149735913
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>>149736013
He probably loves all the protags except Yuya.
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>>149735622
Ass as well
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>>149732225
>tackles a girl who was planning on stealing her blood for disguises
>girl runs away anyways her plan a complete success

wow ochako great job so awesome

really stopped that villain
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>>149736284
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>>149736426
So... basically confirmed all Yuzus are nopan?

FUCK YES
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>>149736285
>Her "big moment" in the series is her losing to Bakugou
>Complains that she does nothing else in the series
>When she does do something its apparently not enough

You retards bore me with this farce.
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>>149736503
so anon you're saying she's a good heroine because she jobs in a fight and then fails to stop a villain

wow -now- im impressed
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>>149736590
Oh wait you're a shitposter. Nevermind I thought you had a point to make.
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Damn, Yoshida's sexist ways came about as early as DOMA.
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>>149736456
they could just like high cut undies or thongs
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>>149736615
Wait so I'm confused does being a shitposter mean ochako stopped toga from obtaining her blood and escaping???
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>>149736777
No because you failed to even answer the response and instead just went on an irrelevant tirade like a fucking dumbass.
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>>149736880
Huh? But, uh, saying that the main girl was better than Yuzu and then bringing up an example of her failing to actually do anything is kinda...
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>>149736777
>>149736590
Ochako wasn't ordered to capture Toga in the first place just defend herself so whether Toga was let go or not is irrelevant because she wanted to prevent her from hurting her and Tsuyu
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>>149736197
It's actually kinda pitiful how you idolize Kaz as someone who agrees with your views.
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>>149736937
I mean make whatever excuses you like, Toga won that encounter and Ochako most certainly lost.

Toga escaped with her blood and now has Deku too. Ochako failed. She solved nothing. She was saved by the grace of the others showing up in time.
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>>149736921
She was instructed to defend herself against villain attacks not capture Toga so...what exactly was the point of your posts unless you were just shitposting?
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>>149737051
Well its not really an excuse because her goal was not to capture Toga so you're wrong in that regard. And Toga didn't win either considering she didn't want to pursue the fight anymore when reinforcements came.
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>>149737059
Probably a butthurt Yuzufag having a hard time accepting the fact that Yuzu was never cool.
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How did this thread devolved into faggots arguing about characters from an unrelated anime?
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>>149736700
Anon, stop giving me fap ideas. I already fapped to the ruris today
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>>149737208
I guess they just got bored.
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>>149737177
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>>149737208
Ask yourself what kind of thread you're in. Then you'll have your answer.
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>>149732225
Anzu was fine. In the manga and the first series, she's a great character. Even in Duel Monsters, where she got the same treatment as Bakura with all her scenes taken out until MW because it started at Duelist Kingdom, she was okay. Asuka is probably the most developed as a whole despite getting 5-6 episodes; Aki would be equal if not for her being written as a newbie in the second half, but still only a little behind. Kotori was disliked overall because she's the only one of her friends who doesn't play card games, and the "female sidekick" was already an established trope alongside the MC and Rival of the series.
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>nii-san has so many friends
>but Ray only has me

why is Ray such a bitch and manipulating rayra like that??
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>>149737447
>nii-san has so many friends

I mean aside from Nakajima, no one really gives a shit about him.
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>>149737447
Because she's an Akaba
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>>149737447
Anon, that's probably an illusion of Zarc manipulating Reira
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>>149737274
>Rin
>Not dressed as Rin
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>>149737369
>Anzu was fine
In the sense that she was never important or a Duelist so she was inoffensive
>Asuka is probably the most developed as a whole despite getting 5-6 episodes
Like every fucking character in GX not named Judai she was put on the bus and wasn't really needed throughout most of the show
>Aki
Was a disappointment but didn't fall nearly as hard as Yuzu she just became less interesting as she went on.
>Kotori
Just a worse version of Anzu. Though Zexal just played sucked in regards to characterization whereas Arc-V had a great characters that fell hard as the series went on so pick your poison.
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>>149737447
I think the dumbest thing is that he shouted to Reji

>"Won't you save Ray, EVERYTHING THROUGH SHE'S YOUR REAL SISTER?"

The fuck,kid? He never met her, why would he suddenly give a crap about Ray now when others lives are at stake, one of those lives just died because of you, you little shit. I haven't hated Reira this much since his little temper tantrum over Tsukikage. Fuck this brat. Why the hell is he in the show again? Should of replaced him with Meiru, at least she's funny.
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>>149735814
>a simple story where the protagonist aimed to rise through the ranks
So much for that. He is, somehow, the only one left in the Red dorm by the end of the show.
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>>149737564
Kotori was pretty easy to ignore since she was the same from start to finish in terms of personality and relevance
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>>149737719
You can say the same thing for Yuma
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>>149737648
It's rather depressing wasn't it? He isolated himself there both because he didn't want supernatural shit happening to his friends and because he was afraid to confirm that his friends hated him or were at least scared of him now. Which they were. They only stopped being aggressive towards him once Honest made his appearance
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>Yuzu has been sent to ARC-V
>I activate Pure Ray

I dont even
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>>149737648
Isn't it because he doesn't want to move to a better dorm? I kinda remember that he was offered to be in Ra Yellow
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>>149733649
>DM remasterized and the movie was a mistake
>Implying cutting off half the screen and putting it through a sharpening filter took away staff
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Has there ever been a more pathetic protagonist? Yuya was a fucking mistake.
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>>149737974
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>>149737767
Eh, I am talking about female MCs here though.
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>>149737810
I'm just confused as to how no freshmen came into the dorm. Apparently, they were all excellent.
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>>149737564
>Was a disappointment but didn't fall nearly as hard as Yuzu she just became less interesting as she went on.
She fell harder than Yuzu in the sense that all she did after episode 64 was rely on Yusei and praise his skills as a duelist, even though she used to be one of the strongest characters of the show.
Yuzu, on the other hand, didn't even get to acknowledge how strong Yuya became. She simply became irrelevant. The writers decided not to use her anymore, but at least her current characterization doesn't contradict the way she was back in standard.
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>>149738016
My only explanation is that the writers stopped giving a shit at that point
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>>149738007
Yuma's whole thing was learning to become better. He became more competent by the end of the show. Yuya has been largely incompetent for the majority of the show, showing no signs of stable growth.
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>>149737810
That's an excuse. Judai's status as a Slifer Red is his trademark. He can't be his own character without it.
Making Judai an Obelisk Blue is like evolving Ash's Pikachu into Raichu.
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>>149738130
he showed growth after his battle with JACKU gaining confidence in Egao and his own strength

I dont like XYZ or the Acadamia arc either but they still exists anon
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>>149738016
Same reason why Obelisk Blue is the only dorm that is shown to have girls except for that one shot.
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>>149737974
>Has there ever been a more pathetic protagonist?
Yeah Yuma and post season 3 Judai
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>>149738228
you're just jealous you cant defeat DARKNESS and dont have a futa demon living in your head
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>>149737974
I fail to see the problem.
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>>149738279
>Judai fused with his yandere waifu to save everyone
>Yuma rescued Astral from being reprogrammed
>Yuya didn't even realize Yuzu died in a tube
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>>149738200
>he showed growth after his battle with JACKU

Yeah good lot that did him after Synchro ended. He regressed to the same overconfident, "using egao as a tool" mentality. It's like he learned nothing from Jack.
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Yuma's stupidity is kind of over-exaggerated, some people act like he doesn't learn anything at all throughout the story.

Tactics-wise, he gets much better throughout the tournament arc, and there are many duels where he doesn't rely on Astral.
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>>149738442
She just disappeared. If you watched more anime, you'd know that the people used as fuel for the doomsday machine aren't dead until the process is finished.
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>>149738493
I love how early in the series he thought tactics is some kind of food
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>>149737974
Oh man, I remember back when delusional arc-vfags were harping on about how Yuya surpassed every protagonist. And here we are now with Yuya being the most hated protagonist. What a turn of events.
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>>149735317
It's the hair.
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>>149738521
I know, I'm just fucking around. Zexal had a lot of body count near the end and everyone turned out okay after the whole thing was over. I doubt they will try to do a curveball and have the ruris die
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>>149738039
>The writers decided not to use her anymore, but at least her current characterization doesn't contradict the way she was back in standard.

>Standard Yuzu nearly kills herself diving for an action card that wins her the duel and had desires to get stronger not only for herself but so Yuya wouldn't have to worry about her all the time

>Post Standard Yuzu does nothing but pine for Yuya, gets kidnapped more times then princess peach and her sole character is to mutter or scream Yuya's name and serve as his prize and for the villains bait.
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>Reiji doing all the summoning methods in his first turn AGAIN
>fails to anticipate what his opponent will do AGAIN

Reiji is such a hack. Hikokubo is a lazy piece of shit.
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>>149738622
Since this show is wasted potential incarnate, Yuya could have.
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>>149738622
>how Yuya surpassed every protagonist
Oh, but he did. YGO protagonists were never extraordinarily good, and the way Yuya was set up to fail by the show only promoted growth and development. In fact, he still showed promise up until Xyz, which is when the writers totally gave up on the show.
In any case, I'll remember Standard Yuya - and Standard Arc-V in general - in a good light, but I don't expect too much from the show anymore besides flashy duels and maybe a final plot twist.
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Why was Reiji being so disrespectful and arrogant towards Reira? He was shown to always be supportive of him. Now he's just treating him like some puppet that he's been in control of from the start. That's bad character writing right there.
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>>149737564
Wasn't Kotori's VA like, super good at the actual game though?
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>>149713101
I would if the Yuri was in better quality.
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>>149738927
He's probably trying to goad Reira into fighting with his full potential. He acted like a dick during his second duel with Yuya too
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>>149738927
Parasite Scarf-kun took over its host.
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>>149738927
If Reiji cares that much about saving the dimensions, why didn't he just walk away?

He has no actual reason to waste his time dueling Reira.
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>>149734884
Maybe hire a writer who actually likes to write duels.
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Haha remember when Futoshi's parents both worked in their own restaurant as cooks getting paid minimal income but still closed early their only way to generate revenue so they could watch their son participate in a tournament he wanted to be in because they both really love him? Man that was really stupid! I'm glad we have good writers now instead those old hacks!
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>Reiji fails to read his father
>Reiji fails to read his brother
>Gets owned by both
>Can't figure out what the fuck is happening around him

How much respect have you lost for Reiji as of what has happened recently?
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>>149739232
0

I never had any respect for him to begin with.
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>>149738652
>everyone
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>>149739232
>Ever having respect for a second rate
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>>149739232
I was going to buy three (3) copies of the D/D structure deck and have the wig and glasses shipped to the US so that I could cosplay as him at ComicCon once the dub aired in the US and people knew who he was.

Now I'm glad Billy Bob is in charge of voicing him in the dub instead of someone good.
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I just feel sorry for Reiji now, sure he did a lot of morally questionable stuff in standard, and almost nothing in the synchro dimension, but he's getting way too much flank right now.

What makes this worse is that hes saying logical things in the fusion dimension, and he's trying to do good deeds right now, like saving the Yuzu series, but nobody's trying to help him.
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>>149739319
Kaito was present at the ending scene.
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>>149739232
>Can't figure out what the fuck is happening around him
Not sure if Reiji is high, drunk, or becoming too self-aware to the point that he now just realized how much the writers are fucking him over and can do nothing about it.

And to answer your question, zero for Reiji, but a good amount for the writers if they flashbacked to the flashback scenes from 67, but forgot about the ending of that very episode.
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>>149739063
>goad Reira into fighting with his full potential.

That doesn't really make any sense. His intention was never to fight Reira in the first place. He didn't anticipate him doing that, and then on top of that he didn't see Reira actually countering his moves and giving him a hard time. He just wants to end the duel now and get to stopping Leo's plans.

With Yuya, everything was intentional. He intended to duel and act villainous to help Yuya out.
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>>149739392
Oh, that's right. I think I must have thought that bullshit was so insanely stupid that I completely blocked it off of my mind ever since the day I watched that episode. To this very moment I thought Kaito was dead.
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>>149739327
>I was going to buy three (3) copies of the D/D structure deck

Same. Reiji was always the most appealing character to me in Arc-V. Now I realize it's not his fault but the writer's fault, but they're just shitting on him so much and making him look the complete opposite of what he's always been so he doesn't look as cool to me anymore unfortunately.
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>>149739557
Reminder that Yuma used Re-Contract Universe to bring Kaito to life but didn't bring his parents back home.
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>>149739374
It's pretty sad since he was Yugioh's equivalent of Lelouch
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>>149739232
I lost respect when he was being irrelevant and barely doing anything in Synchro besides the Jean duel (who was a chump at dueling anyway). And then when he finally does something in Fusion, turns out his cakekakus aren't so hot after all, with very little time in the series to give him a redemption.

Bravo
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>>149739507
To be fair, I think its impossible for someone to predict Ray's spirit to persuade Reira into reviving her, and as a result turn against him.
Not even the viewers could have saw this coming, except by spoilers.
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>>149739635
Being an equivalent of Lelouch is sad enough
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>>149739232
I was waiting for it to happen. The second he went from aggro tactics to DUDE FLOODGATES LMAO I lowered my hopes. I'll have RDS ready to go tomorrow. Despite all of this, I am a Reiji fag and I will go down with this ship, even if it just caught fire. There's always the Manga!

Warning! Pure autism blogshit follows:
I am honestly feeling a little depressed after these last couple of episodes. I'm going through a rough time in life and Reiji has symbolized how calm, rational keikakuing can get you through it, just the advice I needed to carry on. Seeing him like this makes me feel like my grip on life is slipping too. Help.


Sorry. Need to get it out. See you all tomorrow!
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Reminder that this faggot has dueled almost as much as Reiji in a mere fraction of the series's episodes where as Reiji has been here since the beginning.
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>>149739624
Technically, Astral was the one who used the numeron code to revive Kaito and the others.

Yuma's parents were shown to be on a journey in the last episode, which implies that they returned from the astral world, maybe through Astral's use of the numeron code.
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>>149739841
best boy
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Why was Zexal so fucking good bros? I wish Arc-V was as good.
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>>149739624
He knows they're okay in the Astral world and he's used to them being away since they're adventurer archeologists.There are more important things to do with the Numeron Code than bringing them home
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>>149739953
youre a pedo
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>>149739770
It's okay, anon. You are not alone on this burning ship. Manga Reiji seems great, though I don't care much for his monster designs thus far.

Think of it as calculated losses. Things seem bad for now, but let your keikaku'ing guide you, and before long you'll be pushing up your glasses and saying "Keikaku doori".
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>>149739624
Yuma didn't use the Numeron Code for anything though. Astral was the only one who got to use it
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>>149739953
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>>149739770
>and Reiji has symbolized how calm, rational keikakuing can get you through it,
He hasn't symbolized that though. Up until recently, things dropped into his lap and worked out just because, not because he actually did much himself.
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>>149739232
I bet he regrets ever leaving his NEET cave.
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>>149740061
I never claimed that my autism made sense. It just made me feel better about my situation.
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>D/D Brownie
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>>149740067
>I can't believe I'm losing to a little kid
>my ankles are cold
>everybody keeps outkeikakuing me
>the ghost of my half-sister is trying to mess up my plans
>half my Lancers are dead
>I want to go back to my NEET cave
>I miss Nakajima
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>>149740184
SECOND RATE
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>>149740184
Nakajima was a bro
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Will this be revealed in VJUMP this week? I feel like that anon who said that it's a fusion summon card and changes type is bullshitting
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>>149740235
https://youtube.com/watch?v=fEZ1qL1r_-k
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If we have Reiji replaced by this guy, would anyone notice?
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>>149739319
At least he got revenge against The Moon Guardian
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>>149740309
I just noticed it has Odd-Eye's head orb and chest orbs on its headgear and cloak.
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>>149741192
Yeah, that's why he's called Iris Magician.
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We need that new protag soon

We are going to all kill ourselves if we don't get em
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>>149741281
You mean new series right? Who cares about the protags. They're never good.
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>>149733099
Reira confirmed for a joestar
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>>149740692
I'd actually like Reiji
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>>149741351
This. If a handful of the other major characters and villains are fun, it's called a success
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>>149740309
>>149741192
>>149741251
See, this is why I like Odd-Eyes Magician cards, and Pendulum cards to an extent. They have this mysterious symbolism lore-esque thing going on that makes other card designs look lazy in comparison.
Houkais also have great designs. They have the All-seeing Eye/Eye of Horus as a callback to the original YGO, but they also look otherwordly, a bit like aliens. So cool.
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>>149739232
I have a feeling the best moment to come from Leo will be him destroying Reiji as a second rate Keikaku Man.
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>>149741351
>they're never good

Why the fuck are you watching YGO then? Every series largely revolves around its protagonist so if you don't like them it's hard to stay invested in a series. For the record, Yugi, Judai and Yusei were good protagonists too.
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>>149741729
Are you saying that you didn't watch DM for Kaiba and 5D's for Jack?
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>when you read the script and find out you're getting shafted
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RIP Zuzu, YUM YUM knowing you.
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The problem with Ray claiming she's the only one who can stop Zarc is the last time she did that, she split him, the dragons, the dimension and herself into four in the process.

Meaning if she tries this again, we'll be back where we started with everything split up.
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>>149741859
Also, she's an Akaba, so she'll piss away a hundred episodes before actually getting off her ass.
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>>149741874
as ruri prime she will have the fattest ass
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>>149741859
What if she gained unfathomable power while she drifted in the void of Oblivion?
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>>149741874
>she'll
She already did, and so did half of her fragments.
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>>149741926
Doesn't mean shit to Z_rc.
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Ray is a fucking bitch. I'd prefer her useless counterparts over her anyway.
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>>149741857
>went from this to dying practically offscreen
WASTE
A
S
T
E
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What's her name /a/rc-v?
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>>149742311
Zarc fuel
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>>149742311
Which one?
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>>149731133
The writers wrote themselves into a corner. They don't know what they are doing and are forcing the characters to be dumb just to "Advance the plot".

I've read shittier fanfic stories with better plots than this show.
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>>149742389
both
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>>149742389
>>149742374
Not better than original girl
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>>149742799
That's a boy.
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>>149740692
We'd at least get Disco Enzan. That's an upswing by mere default.
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>>149742818
No that's a dragon pussy
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Where you was when pocky day?
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Fun fact. Yuri v Yugo started in 126 and ended in 131 making it a 6 episode duel. Yet it only had 7 min of actual duel time.
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>>149742884
are you drunk or yet to be deported?
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>>149742879
Still fuckable unlike whatever that abomination you got there is.
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>>149742884
For those who don't understand the image
>That's a smoking pipe
>Serena is nervous because she has no Yuya pussy
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>>149742987
>shitting on a beautiful girl
>not wanting a dragon harem
Shit taste there buddy
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>>149742854
Yuya can dig it.
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>>149737484
Have you ever seen Himika so much a pat Reiji on the head, let alone hug him?
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>>149742884
why did worse Yu steal Serena from Yuya?
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Are you faithful to your yugimons /a/rc-v?
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>>149743028
>Wanting to ruin a perfectly fine dragon harem by adding any of the Cipher dragons
Disgusting.
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>>149743125
Y-Yuma?
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>>149743152
>having shit taste
Deplorable
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>>149742898
I knew they'd fuck it up the minute I saw the summary but I never thought it would be THAT bad.
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>>149743157
Isn't it Zarc that is yugimonsexual? Yuya is just Yuzusexual.
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>>149743189
Cipher Dragon isn't even the best multi-colored dragon out there in Yugioh.

Is Rainbow Dragon's Ultimate D rainbow colored?
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>>149743212
Just look at that dragon's color scheme.
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>>149743343
it's from the ultraman franchise. got them from /m/
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can somebody explain to me why Anna wasn't a main character?
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>>149743601
So people like you would be salty. Protip: Anna would get the Tori treatment if she was the Main Girl.
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>>149743601
>the one where Yuma and Kaito clash with their hair
How come the Arc-V covers aren't this dynamic
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>>149743152
On that topic, which Galaxy-Eyes is uglier between the Cipher Dragons and Dark Matter Dragon?
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>>149743189
I miss Rebellion Dragon. Now it's all Raging Dragon.>>149743193
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>>149743685
Dark Matter is literally designed to look ugly and unnerving. That being said, Cipher Dragon outside of the beautiful wings.
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>>149743708
ded in banished zone
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>>149743685
Neo Cipher is one of the ugliest dragons to come out of Yugioh
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>>149743728
Is there a drawfag who can draw a pic with both Rebellion and Raging Dragons?

Bonus request: a pic with Requiem, Crystal and Greedy Bracelet girls cosplaying as the evolved dragons optional
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>>149743779
The shoulder heads are silly, but I actually prefer Neo to normal Cipher just because the color scheme is slightly less appalling with the darker chrome red instead of fucking pink.
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>>149743676
>salty
I want more fap material dumbass
>>149743685
>>149743722
>>149743779
>>149743846
>Cipher Dragons ugly
Jusei Fudo you guys are faggots
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>>149743915
give it up she'll never polish your Gustav Max
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>>149743915
I don't think it's nearly as bad as people say it is, but the color scheme is still a clusterfuck and the shoulder heads are just plain badly executed.
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Can someone explain to me how Yugo lost?
he didnt wanna negate Starve venom because then it would be destroyed by Greedy's effect?
Also couldn't Yugo have negated Hydra's effect and gotten the attack boost? I guess maybe they were playing with priority but i somehow dont have faith in the writers enough to trust they knew that rule.
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>>149744332
Starve Venom can inflict burn damage when it is destroyed in the anime, so that's why he didn't negate it. Starve Venom also negates Clear Wing's effect when it copies its effect, so he can't use it against Hydra.
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>>149744364
starve a best
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>Playing Fluffals with their new spell
>Open pretty good, go second
>Opponent is playing ABCs, plays the field spell, gets out the ABC dragon, sets 4
>Summon dog to search something, he banishes it, contacts out the dragon, activates Vanity's Emptiness and Skill drain
I hate faggots who complain the game has gotten too fast, but this meta of "lock out your opponent of anything resembling playing the game or bust" is getting pretty fucking retarded.
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>>149744472
New archetype based on suicidal explosive plays when?
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>>149744671
meant to reply to
>>149744625
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>>149744674
poor Gon
poor Yuzu
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>>149744674
>prima
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>>149744674
>level 12 SHS never
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WHO IS BEST DRAGON ?
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>>149744909
I can't choose
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>>149744909
I'm surprised they added in Gon and Yuzu.
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>>149744909
Dark Rebellion
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>>149744674
I swear to Genesis Omega Dragon, if G and H are nostalgia.
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>>149738927
Because the writers went full retard
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>>149739063
He was never shown to be supportive of Yuya though and that duel really was a trial for the lancer selections.
Reiji had nothing to gain from doing that right now where shit has hit the fan.
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How large is your yugioh folder?
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>>149745242
he's so supportive he might as well marry him
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Was ENJOY the last time Arc-V was enjoyable?
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So basically for a fanservice series can we say Arc V looked to be like Gokaiger but instead turned into Kamen Rider Decade?
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>>149738493
The complaints i hear about Yuma fall into two categories, the "kattobingu" and "he's stupid".
The "stupid" is stupid since he gets good and the "kattobingu" is just the never give up shounen protagonist attitude, it may not be to your taste but it's not like it's done bad.
But yeah let's repeat the same meme opinions hurr durr Yuma sucks, Zexal sucks.
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>>149745497
>, Zexal sucks.
just the start
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>>149744909
Dark Rebellion.

Starve Venom is an abomination, Odd-Eyes is a chicken and Clear Wing skipped leg day since day 1.

Dark Rebellion's only negative trait is that screechy roar it has. Compared to the other dragons, it just sounds kinda lame.
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>>149744909
Starve
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What a cuck.
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Cute!
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>>149746732
She looks like a loil Sucy
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>>149745657
Quite a few people I've seen here think all of it sucks. Which was the point of the post you quoted

I'm one of the few people that enjoyed pretty much every second of Zexal. It think it has to do with me being 17 while watching it so I wasn't too far off the demographic. Despite a bit of the start being villain-of-the-week, for me it was carried by the flashy visuals, consistent animation and the entertaining cast (barring the Number Hunters) that made even those dull, episodic episodes more enjoyable. Honestly, the beginning of ZEXAL wasn't even that bad.
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>>149746622
>his little brother got better as a duelist
>that somehow makes him a monster

???

Is he confusing Reira with Zarc?
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>>149744909
Only people there who don't have a new card in Dimension box are Gon,Edo and Jack. Shit, is this confirmed then? Here's to hoping Jack and Edo's cards are synchro and Fusion then, they don't need any spells or traps.
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>>149746732
OH YES~!
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Bottom row, want.
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Is it really worse though than the big bad of 5D's turning out to not be a future Yusei but just some dude who made himself look like him?
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>>149748001
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>>149744674
Oh, right, Dark Requiem, that was a thing, wasn't it?
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>>149744674
The evolved form of Odd-Eyes is Raging? That doesn't make any sense.
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>>149746875
At least Yuma didn't force his Kattobingu into other people unlike Yuya EGAO
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>>149749457
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>>149746875
It's weird that the lack of character development is pointed out as one of Zexal's flaws, even though it spent a lot of time on character development.

Zexal may seem like it has a lot of filler episodes, but those episodes usually go in-depth with characters, like episode 19, which doesn't feature any duels but establishes Yuma's character and background.

Episode 80 was one crazy episode, but showed us that Alito's not really a bad guy, and similar to Yuma.

Episode 81, which seemed like Kotori was going to get the spotlight, actually had Girag as the center of the show, and the first few episodes of Zexal II establishes his tactical, yet clumsy personality.
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>>149741729
Judai was insufferable until season 4.

The only real reason to watch GX would be for Manjoume, Edo, Ryo, and Chronos. The rest were very forgettable until late into the show.
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>>149740183
I think that it is written as Braunie
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>>149740692
What if we replaced Kaito with Copen from Azure Striker Gunvolt? They have basically the same personality.
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>>149744674
Why the hell they make Yuzu have Prima instead of Bloom Diva escapes me.
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>>149749654
If you're retarded, sure, you could write it that way.
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>>149743028
Anon, sorry but while I can put Odd-Eyes, Dark Rebellion and Clear Wing in my deck, the Starving Venom isn't as useful as the other ones. Cool effect and all, but I'm pretty sure 90% of the tiime I'm better off summoning Odd-Eyes Vortex Dragon
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>>149749269
Thing is, Odd-Eyes is pretty much like Neos right now. He has a bunch of evolutions, but not a single one that can exactly be called his main evolved form. While Raging is him mixed with Dark Rebellion, it does seem more of THE Odd-Eyes evolution than the rest.

It's like Odd-Eyes Rebellion Dragon is Paildramon while Odd-Eyes Raging Dragon is Dinobeemon, but Yuya kind of only has Dinobeemon to be the true evolution
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>>149749967
Thinking about it, Odd-Eyes has the worst effect of all of them.
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>>149749203
Writers forgot it faster than Nirvana High
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>>149750110
Pendulum summon is best used if the summoned monsters are used for other purposes than being pure beatsticks. Generating advantage, making a strategy, using other summonings with them etc.

Odd-Eyes Pendulum Dragon kind of is for that purpose. He isn't good like the others with a broken effect. In the pendulum zone he searches other pendulums or blocks damage. After you summon him you can use him for synchro, fusion, xyz depending on the situation or use his effect of double damage if needed to finish off the game. It's more of a Jack of All Trades
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>>149733099
Nipples?
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>>149744909
>adding in Yuzu and Gon now
TOO LATE YOU MOTHERFUCKERS

TOO

FUCKING

LATE
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>>149750244
That's why she has to be reincarnated anon
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Where were you when Arc-V became porn?
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Guys, remember when Yuto lost because Yuya interfered and people were ''hurr durr, Yugo could have negated the attack'' even though Yuto had still 3 cards in hand and had to abruptly end his turn?

Remember when Yugo lost and people are ''hurr durr, Yuri would have won anyway'' but Yugo lost his entire backrow including burn damage cards due to Kaito and Aster interfering?

Damn, was that nostalgic!

>>149750522
All of her counterparts are perverts, anon. The difference is Ray is open about it
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>>149750108
At least Odd-Eyes is viable and most of his forms are functioning.
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>>149748013
Yes. That's a cop-out.
Making future Yusei lose all faith in humanity would've given some depth to his character. Making Z-ONE a cosplayer makes him unrelated to Yusei, and as such, Yusei is still Jesus.
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>>149746880
Do you not watch sports anime? Overly strong characters are often referred to as "monsters".
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>>149750737
Clear Wing and Crystal Wing get stuffed into every deck that can Synchro Summon, though.
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>>149750737
Hehe, yeah! Take that, Neos!
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>>149750843
Odd-Eyes had/has its niche. It was frequently used in Qlis and Majespecters for the EP search, but the meta is much faster now.
To contrast with what you said, Clear Wing actually gets disregarded most of the time in favor of its evolution and there aren't many functional Synchro decks right now. Dark Synchro certainly uses Crystal Wing, the same goes for D/D/D but some variants of Blue-Eyes don't bother running it as BE needs two turns to be able to summon it.
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>>149744674
>wasting sleeves on shitty characters

Hopefully those last two sleeves are of actual GOOD characters
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>>149751621
It'll be Edo and Kaito, you just know it.
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>>149744674
I can tell what to feel after Yuzu and Gon finally have sleeve's but right after both of them were treated so poorly it's damn depressing.
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I am such an idiot. This whole time, I thought the writers were setting up Yuya for a true moral dilemma: Either he gets to save Yuzu but everyone who was turned into a card stays a card, or he gets to bring everyone who was turned into a card back, but he would lose Yuzu.

And of course, we know it wouldn't be permanent if he lost Yuzu, but I wanted to see him have to finally make a real decision, one with real consequences, about whether or not he truly believed in smiles. I wanted Leo to be rational instead of psychotic, explaining his position to everyone. I wanted Reiji to refuse out of being contrarian, whereas Yusho would grudgingly agree that maybe sacrificing the four girls would be worth bringing everyone back to a united world. I wanted Yuya to argue with his father that he hasn't seen in three years, demanding to know why he cares so little about Yuzu, only to get schooled in a duel so hard he can't do anything but just lay there and cry.

I wanted him to apologize to Yuzu for being such a failure. I wanted him banging on the glass, begging Leo to let her go. I wanted Yuzu to be crying too.

But mostly I just wanted her last words, before she vanished forever, to be, "Yuya... Smile."
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>>149751621
>"Waah waah! They made sleeves for characters of the current series! I am so triggered!"
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>>149752046
Yuzu's not dead yet, but you're right. There's no chance for anything like that to happen anymore.
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>>149752084
I don't care what series they're from. They just chose bad characters. They should've chosen good Arc-V characters like Sora, Shun, Reiji, Reira, Enjoy and Sawatari.
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>>149752160
Enjoy sleeves would have been amazing.

KOI KOI KOI
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>>149752046
That would be awesome.

Somehow, it reminded me of the last scenes of Yuma VS Nasch, with Yuma negating his last attack, finally realizing the most important thing he lost: himself. To end the war and all those deaths, Yuma was about to kill a friend.
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>>149752046
I think that's why Arc-V feels so weightless right now. When III and V fought Mizael, just when you thought they had the upper hand in planning for him to use ZA ZEBANZU WAN, they still lost hard, but were happy they got close to beating a cheater. When IV attempted to change Shark's destiny from having to betray his friends with a symbolic card, he apologized to his long-time rival for failing him in the end. When Kaito gave up his life trying to get what he presumed to be the only ace-in-the-hole to defeat Don Thousand, even Mizael felt the weight of realizing how many sacrifices were being made to do what they believed was right. And when it finally came down to Shark vs. Yuma, even though everyone wanted a different path, even though there was an easier way to come to terms, Shark had to accept his responsibility as a leader, even if it meant making hard choices he never wanted to be a part of.

What are the consequences in Arc-V? Thanks to Edo telling us twenty episodes ago that carded people will come back, where's the difficulty in seeing someone lose a duel? We know everyone is going to come back, and we know everyone is going to be smiling about it and everyone will be friends and be forgiven.

Arc-V had actual pressure back in Standard when Micchio and Teppei, two fucking side characters, had the most emotional death scene we've seen in YGO since BRUNO. Where did that kind of writing disappear to?
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>>149752046
>>149739770
Holy shit this show really let EVERYONE down, didn't it?
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>>149751621
Cry me a river fagboi, both of them should have gotten something like this LONG ago.
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>Judai, you have been chosen due to your ability to control great darkness
>we need you to fight against the light
Yeah, how could this possibly go wrong?
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>>149752329
Once the Director stopped caring and the Head Writer who hates duel barely did anything during the Synchro arc until the later half of it.
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>>149752329
I'll disagree with the most emotional death, since I feel some of the zexal deaths were the most emotional. I will have to agree with the rest of what you said
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>>149752364
The sad part is there will still be some deluded people out there think Arc-V is the best series even after all the shit that has happened.
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>>149752364
Name one character that isn't either a total disappointment or a hollow shell of their former selves. How do you expect a show to be well-received if you piss off every single one of the characterfags? Only the ones with the lowest of standards actually enjoy the series right now.
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>>149752476
It had too much potential during it's starting year and raised too many expectations all for it to hit rock bottom.
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>>149752329
"Partner...? Why are you a card? Didn't you say we were the perfect combination...?"
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>>149752476
Look, I was one the people that said that. I agree it isn't the best anymore, but as much as it's being disappointing and all, I had more fun and enjoyed it more than GX and 5D's.

It was really a big waste of potential, the character developement of many was thrown out of the window, characters were treated like trash and all, but even now I am having more fun with what little is left of it than other two series.

To summerize: it's like when in 5D's we can't forget the Dark Signers arc, In Arc-V I can't forget Standard and some of the great parts after it, like the second Yuya VS Jack duel and stuff like that (even though Yuya seems to have regressed from what he learned from that whole arc)
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>>149752476
Well if by best you mean "has the greatest number of enjoyable episodes of any YGO", you could definitely make a case for that. If by best you mean "the greatest narrative", I don't see how anyone could be deluded enough to think that after the show's writing dropped off a cliff tens of eps ago, with 117 (and 123-125 to some extent) being our last hurrah to remember the old times by.
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>>149752476
Well, I still like it a lot more than GX or Zexal. But yeah, it's definitely gone to shit.
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>>149752436
Kaito's death on the moon was the most shocking death in the Yugioh series to me, as most deaths in the Yugioh series after Gx had characters dissapear in the light or be caught in some explosion and etc, which never showed their bodies after death.

Kaito's death was rather realistic in the series, with him essentialy suffocating on the moon along with Orbital 7.

Even though he came back as a spirit/ghost in the battle against Don Thousand, and there was the Dragon-Ball equivalent Numeron code in the corner, I wasn't sure if he was coming back alive until the very last episode,
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>>149752541
The funny thing is that you could say that exact line at 5Ds 131 and it would still fit.
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>>149749575
Judai is the best MC with actual ongoing and convincing character development compared to fools like Yusei and Yuya.

Also I wonder why you'd watch any of the other series when they suffer from the lack of memorable characters in an even harsher fashion.
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>>149752823
Getting development =/= Being a likable character
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>>149749654
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brownie_(folklore)

Wikia points to this?
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>>149752883
How are the other MCs likable?
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Blushing Serena!
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>>149738660
Its funny how Kotori was never kidnapped while Yuzu got it 4 goddamn times.
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>>149727029
He's only barely possessed. He was aware enough to know that Reiji needed to hurry the fuck up so that he could head off Yuri/Yugo.
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>>149753875
Kotori got kidnapped/held hostage a couple of times in Zexal, like the battle against Semimaru and the last battle against Alito, but she helped Yuma more times than getting in his way, so I'm alright with her.
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Would you make Serena cut her hair even if it made her extremely self-conscious?
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>>149753875
Well, Kotori was supposedly kidnapped by cats once, restricted by a possessed Alit in hentai vines another time and Yuma rushed to fight Alit the first time because of a challenge for her heart (but he was too dense to realize the meaning). So, technically Kotori was used as motivation for Yuma to fight or continue fighting 3 times.

Still, it's pretty funny that the cheer leader was kidnapped less times than Yuzu

>>149753983
To be fair, with Semimaru and that Big Eye guy, she was held hostage together most the other friends, so it's less damsel in distress and more of the whole troupe in distress
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Spot the Aussie
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>>149753875
Makes you wonder why Yuya didn't summon Odd-Eyes to nuke the hotel doors in the middle of the night until he found his Yuzu.

Speaking of, how many times did Yuya get kidnapped, arrested, etc?
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>>149754097
Don't talk shit about Jim. His duel disk is literally a boomerang.

>>149754049
The Numbers Club was so useless that it may as well have just been Kotori getting kidnapped.

Tetsuo vs Merag fell flat not because it was offscreen, but because nobody fucking cared about Tetsuo. He got the most focus episodes of the entire Numbers Club (including Kotori, who was in LITERALLY EVERY EPISODE), and we STILL didn't really know shit about him.
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>>149753875
Yuzu was actually wanted by a faction.
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>>149754101
Arested by security
imprisioned by the council,
kid napped by jean
imprisioned by sanders
imprisioned by the doctor
restrained by his dad
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>>149754303
Dark Mist episode, man and the Shark VS Rio.

Tetsuo is a true bro. He even made a point to put bros before hoes.
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>>149754390
Also his interaction with Yuma during the first 10 or so episodes of the show, where he found the missing half of the Emperor's key, and got into a fight with him regarding the use of Numbers against Shark, but was resolved in the end.

There weren't many episodes where he got focus, but he has enough character development, for people to know that he's a really good guy, and a good friend to Yuma.

His manga counterpart helped out Yuma a lot in the manga as well, such as giving Yuma a key card to defeating Eviluder, and cooperating with the other number club members and Luna to save Haruto.
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>>149750774
I think he was asking if what's happening now in Arc V is really worse than the Z-OME reveal.
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>>149753875
Yuzu was basically kidnapped twice onscreen. Kidnapped by Sergey was understandable but the whole but then it was boderline lazy with Serena doing it with zero resistance.
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>>149755050
>but the whole
Sorry, for the poor grammar here.
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>>149754703
>A good guy
>A good friend
We got that in ep 1. We still don't know jack shit about WHO HE IS as a person though. Like, Sawatari even has more focus and development than him and Sawatari's a bit character in a show that basically stopped giving a shit about its characters forever ago.
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>>149749269
Raging shouldn't have bee an Xyz Pendulum, shoulda just been effect Pendulum like OEPD. Raging is meant to be THE OEPD upgrade but the fucking writers/card makers couldn't make a new Pendulum sub mechanic so they went with Xyz Pendulum.
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>>149746732
Imouto of Biggu Sta?
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>>149755658
It's not an Xyz Pendulum because of cards, it's an Xyz Pendulum because both Yuto and Yuya were pissed as all hell and let their anger channel Zarc, which made the card.

What gets me is where the fuck do Zarc and Ray get the power to just make cards from nowhere? How come Reiji can't just do that shit? Or Edo? Or Kaito? Or Asuka? Or really anyone besides Zarc and Ray?
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Yu-gi-oh! ARC-V is the Gundam SEED of the yugioh franchise.

Ono better hope that the nips don't get as angry at him as they did the writers and director of that huge mess.
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>>149755899
It's implied in the anime that the duelists magically create some of their cards as they grow stronger.
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A reason to use these guys On Dev. Pro
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Running out of images to post
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A good find
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>>149756026
>>149756055
1- They are cute
2- Music archetype
3- Got recent support in Dimension Box
4- Combine with Eidolons for more fusing
5- They have decent combos, although common Kaiju sides fuck them over
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>>149755934
That implies it was the most popular spinoff. Pretty sure that distinction goes to GX or Zexal.
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>>1497558149
The problem with Raging is that it renders Rebellion obsolete as the Odd-Eyes/DRXD hybrid. They spent so damn long hyping Rebellion as Yuya's boss (with even Gongenzaka referring to it as Yuya's strongest monster, disregarding Nirvana) and then the show and the opening disregards its existance in favor of Raging.

On that note. PK Possession allows Yuya to summon the Xyz Pendulums without needing Synthesis and Antithesis. But seeing as those two Magicians also let Yuya fuck with his opponent's monsters' levels, he could use Possession in combo with the duo to make an opponent's monster a Level 7 (like Odd-Eyes) even if it was an Xyz monster, allowing Rebellion to still be useful against any monster.
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>>149756207
The only thing Rebellion gets that Raging doesn't is that it gets to attack for every monster popped that turn, meaning a full-field nuke is at least 5 attacks with a 3k beater.

It's got a higher barrier of use, but is really good within its niche, whereas Raging is a good generalist and always gets 2 attacks.
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32d 11hrs until YGO 6 PV
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What's going to be in VJUMP this week? Retrain for best girl?
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>>149756271
Well, from a competitive standpoint (btw im not the guy you replied to), the generalist cards would be better in that regard. Cards with their own niche tend to be overshadowed unless they are easier to use.

This is reason why Dark Rebellion, a vague rank 4 has its uses in the extra, while the powerful Starving Venom is harder to use, since its more powerful, but also harder to summon
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>>149755532
I think it would be better to compare Tesuo with Gongenzaka rather than Sawatari, as he fits the same role as Tetsuo, being the protagonist's best friend.

Anyway, Gongenzaka and Sawatari got a lot more episodes where they get the spotlight (relatively speaking) than Tetsuo, so its to be expected that they have more to it in character.
I find Gongenzak and Sawatari to be good characters, but badly treated by the staff, especially after the Synchro dimension arc.
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Will next MC be the excitable happy type or the serious type?
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>>149756317
Raging is definitely better from a competitive standpoint, and even in casuals you'd be more likely to run a copy of that over Rebellion if you were starved for ED space and could reliably make either.

Still, there are playstyles in casual play that focus hard on fulfilling a specific niche. You could make a decent Rebellion Turbo combo using Ojama Trio.
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>>149756353
Probably a mix of both.
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>>149756543
No. Next MC will be a piece of paper with entirely shallow character traits. Any darker themes will be avoided at all costs, at the very least until the third act.

ZeXal sold well. Arc-V and 5Ds both tanked hard. To a businessman that's unaware of the finer details of the consumers' responses, that says "make more shit like ZeXal and avoid anything similar to Arc-V and 5Ds ever again".

We're doomed until Konami thinks they can afford a risk again. They probably didn't take too bad a hit overall because Arc-V had the nostalgia alongside it, so they were probably carried financially by DSoD and the anniversary pack sales, but that doesn't change the fact that Arc-V isn't doing that well.
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>>149756098
Ostinato is a broke card since it is the Melodious version of Brilliant Fusion that special summons the fusion materials at the end of the turn at the cost of the fusion being put into grave(though you can get around it by summoning Bloom Diva or using Opera as a fusion material or summon Bloom Prima and send it back to the extra when it dies), but without having to put in stuff like Gem Knight Garnet and one slot for Seraphnite.
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Cute.
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>>149735317
I miss her.
If I ever have a harem, she will be included
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Leaks?
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>>149757377
Come back in about 3 days.
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From here on out anyone requesting VJUMP news is considered a duel zombie. Come back on Thursday night, we will be hosting shitposts about where the franchise goes from here, Yubel.fag will post some porn and Yamero/Gurofag will finally be released from prison. It's gonna be a good time.
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>>149757574
>duel zombie
So these guys appear in swarms every leak season?
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5Ds was a mistake. Ono was a mistake.
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>>149752749
5Ds villains weren't nearly as bad. Even Z-One, if for no other reason that "some guy cosplays as MC to try to save the world, fails and becomes bitter villain" has never been done before.
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>>149757642
Needs more Ds.
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>>149757657
Z-ONE's backstory was actually a brilliant idea that was randomly thrown in as a shitty twist since Yoshida's a hack that can't bear to have his beloved butchered part 2 Yusei be anything other than complete card game perfection
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>>149758119
This is truth. I wanted to see the rest of 5D's getting completely devastated by the Meklords just so we could see how much it took for Yusei to go over the edge and become the final, ultimate villain.
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When we get Apprentice Illution Magician, censored or not, which rarity will she be if it is an import? Or will she be a Shonen Jump/Special Edition one?
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>>149757336
You already have a >>149750345 harem, anon. Just close your eyes and relax
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>>149758836
Probably start as an UR SJ promo and then a few months later be a SR SE promo.
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I want Rin to have this personality when she finally gets character developement
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Goddamn i just finished watching the last episode. Why is Joeri so based? He defeated Hugo without breaking a sweat.
And now he will trash Yusho. I think its time to make a new powerlevel chart
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>>149760468
If he trashes Yusho I will be eternally disappointed in this show.

I don't mind if he wins, but it needs to at the very least be one of those "If I do not rip into the answer right now I will lose" moments.
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>>149760468
It's because Starving Venom is so powerful it became the only dragon to get nerfed when it came to real life.

It rapes all the others and Yugo didn't deserve to win anyway. He deserved to get his whole field wrecked by jobbers and lose like that the same way Yuto had to abruptly end his turn while he still had 3 cards in hand due to Yuya interfering.
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>>149760468
>Yuri uses protagonist powers and pulls a destiny draw to beat Yusho
How mad would nico be?
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>>149760566
The summary says Yuri has a hard time against Yusho but ultimately wins
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>>149760413
she already a whore and proud

how do you think she payed for dee-huweel and clean clothes?
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>>149760468
Because he's basically the only counterpart who knows what the hell their doing either berserk or not during a duel and trolls the hell out of people whenever he can.

Nerfing Starve Venom irl was a blessing for the other three because it would have made them look even worse in comparison. A shame it took 123 episode for him to start doing something of value while earlier he was being used as a damn running.
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>>149760656
They would actually like that. People love villains that have the same powers as protagonists. They would get mad at Yusho acting like Yuya at the start of synchro
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>>149760656
People are already pissed at him for using Super-Polymerization(something I really don't understand but whatever).
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>>149760724
>They would actually like that
Judging from the feedback of the last few episodes, it'd cause mass butthurt.
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>>149760789
Anything they do will cause massive butthurt at this point with the japs being triggered worse than tumblr.
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>>149760789
nah, they would like that.

They would still hate everything else. Simple as that.

>>149760866
Anon, tumblr probably still likes arc-v
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>>149760468
Who could have thought Yuri would be so damn strong? I know he was a villain but i still had my doubts. He may very well be the strongest duelist of the show second to Yuya
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Most disappointing duel ever.
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>>149760717
There is that one theory that says that originally Fusion was supposed to be working with the Tops to overthrow the current King, which is why he and Rin had good shit despite being commons orphans.

Then again, that's crazy talk. Arc-V's writing has and will always be shit from Episode 52 on. It's never changed ever.
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>>149760925
>only wins because Kaito and Edo destroyed Yugo's card advantage
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>>149760925
DINO PLANT DNA
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>Yuzu dies
>didn't even realise it after someone brought it up
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>>149760957
Anon, it's actually pretty convincing if anyone tells me synchro arc went retconned.

Even the first opening points to it - it uses a bunch of scenes of summonings of monsters, as if they had to cut content that wouldn't happen anymore. And the music actually flowed better with the animation before it got revamped
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>>149760957
When was the last time we got close to 90% rating?
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So what is the point of Arc-V? All the other series had their themes and they portrayed them well enough to leave you with a sense of fulfillment at the end. But what will Arc-V leave us? I feel it's going to be just a huge waste of time at the end judging by how things have been lately.
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>>149761174
104 and 103 i think they both got about 80%. although if we're talking close to 90, then episode 97 aka nivana paladin debut episode which got 88.6%
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>>149761207
It reminds us that war is bad and a society where we can all be happy and smile is the ideal society.

Also, we got waifus and I want to fuck five of them
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>>149760957
Well, it's a fact that one of the writers quit the show after ep 29 and that the show was extended by a full year. So, it's a guarantee that the writing was forced to change to some dramatic degree as a result of that and the presumed lack of budget increase as noted by the shit animation quality all through synchro.
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>>149761174
Episode 94.
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>>149761207
Arc-V had it's whole "take a step forward with courage" thing which was prevalent all through to the end of synchro where Yuya became king via his own form of dueling.

Dunno what happened during all the meandering after aside the writers not giving a shit anymore.
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>>149761360
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>>149760925
>So damn strong
>Has only beaten Asuka and Sora in legit duels

Yuri's W/L record is greatly padded
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>Rank 3
Why?
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>>149761352
That ep was fucking amazing. The quality difference between then and now is just staggeringly depressing.
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When is sora going to duel again i want more fluffals support
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>>149761371
I honestly find it awkward that Arc-V's "Take a step forward with courage" thing is pretty much the same as Zexal's Kattobingu.
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>>149761657
Arc-V is about much more fragile characters than Zexal. It feels different.
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>>149761048
"Reminder that Yugo was originally meant to work for Roger so tabs could be kept on Rin until Leo made a move, but because Director Ono wanted 5D's characters back Yugo's backstory had to be changed and a large portion of our episodes have been rushed with characters only fully speaking in one episode at a time. It's also why Rin wears jewelry and Yugo's bike and clothes are so pristine despite being Commons.

"Jack and Crow replaced Shinji and an unknown character who were supposed to be friends as Commons along with Damon and Tony. The Friendship Cup was a tag tournament where the Commons would have a chance to participate and "prove their bonds are anything but Common," with the finalists having to duel against duelists of the Council's choosing -- always ending in defeat for the Commons. Yugo and Rin were supposed to be the player killers for Shinji and Jack's character. The Jack replacement used a deck that requires heavy Life Point sacrifice, and instead of losing with Shinji he sacrificed Shinji's LP so he could beat Yugo and Rin and become King, while leaving Shinji to go back to Commons as a failure. Yugo was supposed to have a rivalry with the Jack replacement for being humiliated in such a way, and Shinji was meant to call the Jack replacement a traitor for literally stabbing him in the back instead of "not doing anything for the Commons" as it is now. The Jack character was Kamishiro's self-insert, because of the color-name puns. Note that Jack's character was originally described as having come from The Facility during the promotion drops, but this plot point was dropped. Shinji Webber is now instead Crow's friend and was trying to revolt against the Tops for no legitimate reason (because Shinji is Kamishiro's design and there's no other way to use him).

"Also, the Friendship Cup was supposed to be much shorter because it WAS a tag tournament as a callback to 5D's WRGP but it was used as a singles to extend the time the show needed to run."
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>>149761442
I'll support your fluffal anon
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