Miyazaki coming out of retirement AGAIN

Fuck him. I'm not gonna watch any more of his films.

>>149723200
Good.

somehow I knew he couldn't stay away

hopefully his next film is more like his classics, less like ponyo / the wind rises

>>149723200
He's such a tsundere.

more like nausicaa, less like wind rises

>>149723304
I would fucking kill for another Ponyo.

>>149723250
I'm sure he's very upset by that.

Hooray I can't wait for more overrated family friendly themes and boring writing hidden behind the same style I've seen for a decade.

>>149723501
>a decade

>>149723501
nobody is telling you to watch it faggot

>>149723501
how does it feel having no soul

>>149723501
Spirited Away was GOAT

>>149723501
I can't wait to see your poor bait when it comes out.

>>149723539
Yes, he has been making bland crap for over 10 years now.

>>149723200
Who would have thought it, that's totally surprising.

>>149723501
>no taste the post

>>149723684
>a decade

Never liked his movies so I don't really care.
The masses will probably like it though so anime get more popular wich means they'll produce even more anime movies so this is a good thing I guess.

>>149723750
>even more anime movies
Do you mean like DB Evolution or the new GITS?

>>149723798
I mean anime movies. Animated movies from Japan, not some live action stuff.

Wait how could you possibly not be excited? This means I get more Joe Hisaishi music to listen to. FUCK this is perfect.

>>149723961
this guy gets it

>>149723961
This is like the seventh time he pulled the retirement stunt, nobody believed in it since the announcement.

>>149723737
I was going to call you a retard but I can see I didn't explain entirely well. Yes, he hasn't made anything good in 15 years so he has been a hackor over a decade now. I thought it was clear I was implying his style and plots have become bland and repetitive in recent works. I would love for this new title to be awesome and engaging and unique , I'm just sure it won't because he wouldn't take any risk of tarnishing his japanese Walt Disney legacy.

>>149724113
I'm still excited about the music

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>>149723200
Is he aiming to surpass his protege in sexualizing middle schoolers after seeing Flip Flappers?

everyone knows Miyazaki is going to work until he drops dead

partly because he apparently CANNOT stay still and enjoy retirement, and partly because it seems he was unable to ever arrange a protege to carry on his legacy. I mean, the only candidates he had died or failed without Miyazaki around.

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>>149724400
>You will outlive Miyazaki

>>149724113
But you know that at some point it will be for good. You just don't know when.

>he doesn't give up
>he still believes

Miyazaki is too good for us

What happened to his son? Is he still making anime after that 3D thing?

>>149724158
hes trying to say that hayao have been making those movies for more than a decade you autistic faggot

>>149724538
There are some people who just keep going on and on and on, out of spite.
They know it's their time to die, but they refuse to because they hate the world and that hatred drives them onward.

Probably just mad at the nips trying to crown a "next Miyazaki" the past couple years

>>149724707
Nah he's just endlessly passionate

Isn't there a manga he's working on?

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>>149723200
>Miyazaki rises from the grave to direct a new movie
Awesome.
>It's CGI
Dropped.

What has happened to the guy that was revered at Pixar's because they realized they could never match his skills in traditional animation?

>>149723469
This

Nausicaa is his best work and that was back in 1984

The Wind Rises just wasn't good. I don't think he still has it and he is probably surround by too many yes-men as other successful Japanese creators

>>149724859
The short film he's working on for the Ghibli Museum is CG.

He can't sit back and watch anime die.

punished Miyazaki

>>149724903
>Miyazaki was not satisfied with the CG project as a short, and he presented a project proposal for a feature-length film this past August.


This made me assume the feature movie will be an extended version of the short, using the same techniques. So, CGI.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

>>149724625
What? Don't call me a faggot you ESL scum who can't even follow a conversation. You think he's implying Miyazaki has been a hack since the 80s? Even if he is, that's so wrong it's not worth considering anyway.

>>149724988
studio ghibli has been using cgi for a long time, princess mononoke used it in a few shots. I wouldn't worry too much about it especially if miyazaki is directing the film

>>149724884
OK, disregard my comment. I suck

I just realised Miyazaki is 80 years old and he is still so creative with so much imagination and still is a one man anime making machine

Under these conditions Wind Rises (although not his best work) is a remarkable unbelievable achievement

The man is a legend and awesome

>/a/'s arch-nemesis coming out of retirement to save anime again

I salute you and your chain of Kentucky fried chicken restaurants.

>>149724305
He's close to one of the staff of FliFla?

>>149725353
The director worked at Ghibli.

Miyazaki coming out of retirement to Make Anime Great Again.

MAGA

forget about his anime
he should be doing manga instead

>>149724637
I don't think that Stan Lee hates the world. But he sucks the life force of other great people to keep on living.

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>>149723200
Unbelievable.

Well, he always visited the studio daily anyway..

>>149725484
But that doesn't have the music..

>>149724859
It's CGI?
Well, there goes my interest.

I still need to watch many of his other movies though, they'll last me for a while.

>>149725606
Wasn't Kaguya-hime CGI too?

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>>149723200
>anime is bad guise, mmmmkay?
>oh wait, im not doing enough money, LETS DO SOME ANIME!
and this old fart is relevant because?

I hope it is as good as The Wind Rises
it was absolutely kinography

>>149723200
he should do a loli hentai OVA with him voice acting as the man fucking the loli

>>149723304
>>149723469
Shit taste. Wind Rises was one of his best films.

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>>149723304
>>149723469
>not realizing the wind is rises is his best film and an auto biography

>>149726383
>>149726435
princess kaguya is better though

>>149725625
No it was traditional, and it was done by Takahata not Miyazaki

>>149726461
I agree, but its a Takahata film not a Miyazaki film

>>149723200

Maybe Shinkai inspired him or made him feel challenged again. Honestly anime really needs more directors that aren't just placeholders for corporate shills so I welcome it. The last few years since he retired have been absolute dog shit.

I want to make movies like miyazaki

where do I start

>>149726519
>Maybe Shinkai inspired him
don't make me laugh

>>149723501

Beats yet another year of unbroken moe moe hype shit aimed exclusively at otaku and fujos.

>>149726564
miyazaki was right, otakus are trash

>>149726563

Well he's the first director to actually compete with the heyday Ghibli films in terms of box office and critical acclaim. Also I'm sure he's just seen the story state of anime with ACJ just scrambling to milk otaku with events, LN/Eroge adaptations and idolshit and it just absolutely dying in the mainstream and figures he has it in him to present one more sort of alternative. I mean it's been 3 straight years of the same kind of bland shit dominating the scene now and even though /a/ doesn't want to admit it even it's starting to lose interest and you can see it in how the forums have slowed down. It's not some sort of magic overnight fix for anime but as someone who is seriously looking for more combo breaker stuff and less of the same fucking shit with the same fucking voice actors and theme song artists and general blandness that that brings with it I welcome back Asian Colonel Sanders to the drawing board to see what he can do.

>>149723200
People need to not take him seriously when he says he will retire. This is, what, his 8th time?

>>149723200
Not interested. I prefer Disney to his movies.

>>149726764
I think it's nice to have optimism for something like that, but you're overstating the state of the industry by a lot. First, you're comparing seasonal shit to big budget motion pictures which is just pointless. Of course a major studio production with a large budget is going to have more quality than low budget advertisements for LNs. Don't fall for the Miyazaki troll quotes, if you're feeling bored with anime than that probably has a lot more to do with you than the industry.

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So, if this does actually happen what is everyone hoping for?

I personally thought Wind Rises was a solid note to end on. But I'd love to see him go back the fantasy style in his first few works one last time. It's probably gonna have the same general message as always but I've love to see some of his big round looking plane and tank designs again.

>>149726626
so he is aware that he is trash?

>>149726764
Huge box office numbers only mean it's a family friendly movie. Why is that a good thing?
It's all pandering at the end. You're just upset they don't pander to your snowflake tastes.

>>149723737
>>149724158
>>149724625
>>149725043
he's been retired for like a decade, there's a reason why those movies are shit.

Wind Rises was a huge creative level-up, I'm super happy to hear this. It's a masterpiece in its own right and the perfect film to punctuate his career, but I really did get the impression from it that he still had a lot more to give.

>>149723961
Hisaishi is still making music for people other than Miyazaki you weeb.

>>149727230
I would enjoy if he goes back to his roots, but I would prefer he did something like The Wind Rises again, because I have a hard-on for historical dramas.

>>149726764
Fuck off Aniplex sperge. Miyazaki said he never watches anyone else movie's other than the people at his studio's.

>>149727610
>implying I don't listen to a smorgasbord of his solo work

>>149726564
>>149726626
Criticising Miyazaki doesn't mean that he likes moeshit you idiots

>>149725684
Because he actually makes money.

>>149726435
Not his best film. It lacks polish, he just should have tried to do something like that earlier.

>>149727949
What do you mean it lacks polish?

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>>149723200
He's not going to do it. He has all sorts of plans and most of them end up going nowhere, especially now that he's so old. Remember that new manga he promised us 3 years ago when he retired? He never got anywhere with it to even publish it. Toshio Suzuki has even said before that he refuses to ever make another movie with Miyazaki again.

Let's also not forget that Ghibli has been dismantled and all of its animators have left- all that's left are the 10 people working on that CG short with Miyazaki.

If I were him I would try to think about getting the CGI movie finished before I die before jumping into other delusional projects.

I would love it if he could prove me wrong, but it's very unlikely.

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>>149723200
Shocking.

>>149728039
He hates CGI though.

>>149728339
>He hates CGI though.
and I hate going to work, in this world we all got to do things we hate, like it or not he's going to make that shit sandwich.

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>>149726435
Kek, the wind rises was his worst film.

>>149728004
The scenes feel disjointed and it simply doesn't the kind of memorable setpieces his other movies have. The Wind Rises is a different kind of story from his usual action-packet fantasies, and he seems to struggle to keep the narration together with such a large timespan.

>>149728627
>

Hope if flops, shinkai is our true savior.

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>>149723200

Oh great more pretentious garbage for bohemian hipster faggots to latch onto.

>>149723200
2016 is truly the great turnabout year

>>149724859
Funny as shit to me how he spit on Tezuka's grave because Tezuka claimed 500,000 JPY per episode on 60s Tetsuwan Atom, and now he's not even animating. What the absolute fuck.

>>149728039
I don't see it as that unlikely a prospect if he is actually serious about it. Every company in Japan would jump at funding it and I am sure every animator in the country would jump at the chance to work on what would almost surely be his final final project just out of sheer respect for the guy.

HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!

>>149723469
But Nausicaa was his worst aside from Howl and Wind Rises was his best

>>149730689
Retirement was a mistake. Nothing but garbage.

He saw Your Name and needs to show Shinkai the right way to do it.
>"Shinkai does not know anything about human interaction and real feelings. He works only with idealizations, like a child who imagines what love is without having never loved. I need to teach this boy that good direction is more than grandiloquent visuals. Your Name was a mistake."
MAKE ANIME GREAT AGAIN, OLD MADMAN!

>>149723200
He should make a new Lupin movie.

>>149723200
i wish he would stop coming out of retiremeny, and stopped doing overated movies, its annoying.

>>149731408
this. shinkai is the one who should retire.

Is he tormented by Goro's incompetence or something?

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>>149723200
After Miyazaki dies, we're gonna need to maka a Miyazaki-AI to produce anime,

>>149731446
I would love if that were the case. This might sound kinda morbid, but I'd hope that would end up being his last movie. He entered with Lupin, and would end up leaving with it.

>>149723200
You can smell the jealousy from this old hack. Kimi no na wa > than all of Miyazaki's works.

>>149731579
don't worry. when he dies he will retire from death and return.

Wow Kono Sekai is flopping spectacularly.

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順位 販売数 座席数 回数 館数 先週比 映画（作品名）
*1　108018　576442　2295　231　*86.1%　君の名は。
10　*14237　*67678　*355　*42　******　この世界の片隅に

>>149723200
>inb4 retirement was a mistake
>inb4 he coproduces evanjellynewfag 3.0-3.14

>>149731788
Please kill yourself. It's quite evident KonoSekai is the vastly superior film from an artistic standpoint.

>>149732009
I haven't seen either yet so I will refrain from judging but Kono Sekai does look like it has potential to be something other than half assed anime film making and storytelling.

That said it is flopping spectacularly.

>>149731408
Everything he sees is a mistake. The lamp post outside of his house is a mistake. The sandwich he had this morning is a mistake. The air we breathe is a mistake.

>>149730614
Money speaks louder than legacy. They aren't going to give any money to a man who would most likely die mid-production, and the people who worked with him at his studio have all become freelance and now spend most of their time with Shinkai and Hosoda- both of whom are more likely to make more films in the near future than Miyazaki.

Suzuki already said that the budget for the Wind Rises was essentially Miyazaki's "retirement package fund" and that he was done making movies with him. It's over. Let the new blood thrive.

>>149723200
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSfpoSrCGsQ
I'M THINKING I'M BACK

>>149732466
>Let the new blood thrive.
There is no good new blood.

>>149723200
Watch it here:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x51uft5_%E7%B5%82%E3%82%8F%E3%82%89%E3%81%AA%E3%81%84%E4%BA%BA-%E5%AE%AE%EF%A8%91%E9%A7%BF20161113_news

>that scene where Miyazaki stretches with the little girl

>>149733766

Jesus lord almighty, somebody translate this.

most sources seem to be implying that the proposed movie will be a feature length version of the caterpillar short. idk, doesn't sound too interesting.

though it is miyazaki. i'm willing to give it a shot, as long as it's not more ponyo-type shit.

>>149723200
Guess it is better to work until you die than wait for death while doing nothing.

>>149734381
Ponyo is A++

>>149723469
Wind Rises was perfect, you shit-for-brains.

Did kimi no na wa have anything to do with him coming back? Did he see that films can still make big bucks?

>>149734636
They started filming this well before Shinkai's sellout movie was even in theaters in Japan, so no.

Miyazaki doesn't give a shit about some talentless nobody who traces backgrounds from photos as their primary gimmick.

>>149734636
Miyazaki has never heard of Shinkai

>>149723501
I would love to read your blog, fag.

>>149733766
>>149734350
Timestamp?

>>149724538
when he dies

>>149723200
HIS SON WAS TOO WEAK

>>149733766

Anybody knows what they are talking about in around 42:00 where they show Miyazaki the CGI physics engine (I think it's Maya)?

>>149734422
Ponyo fell apart at the end, it felt anti-climactic.

>>149735539
From up on Poppy Hill was alright.

>>149734422
Ponyo is pretty mediocre.

>>149736144
I wouldn't say it falls apart, though it does trail off and I can understand your sentiment.

>>149736688
No, not by any definition of that word.

>>149723200
He's like Goku at this point, continually trying to hand off the responsibility to someone else then having to come back to sort shit out anyways.

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A-wooo?

>>149736771
Have you ever watched any dragon ball series

That didn't take long. I figured it would be at least five years before he unretired. Time to collect on your office betting pools.

>>149736293
No, it was terrible. The cleaning the clubhouse part was the only interesting bit, and the fake incest was so tiresome.

>>149727906
Kill yourself.

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>>149727230
>what is everyone hoping for?

Porco Rosso 2. He can retire or die or do whatever he wants after that, but I want more Marco first, dammit.

>>149731788
It's opening in 52 screens. Of course it's not going to top the box office you sperg.

>>149733154
Yamada, Hosoda and Keiichi are good. And except Hosoda they don't have enough money to do big productions.

>>149723200
>all this speculation about what he's going to make next
>he already flat-out says he wants to turn his Caterpillar short into a full-length movie
>his producer is totally against it and says he'll die before he even finished the storyboards

Is it so hard for you faggots to read?

>>149737874
I was referring to "at Ghibli" because that's what Ghibli producers would doubtlessly concern themselves with.

>>149738011
Yeah I'm retarded. The new Ghibli blood sucks.

>>149723200
I guess he was very disappointed by his own son.

>>149738011
Ghibli is dead anon. All of its talent has left to pursue their own interests without Miyzaki's shadow looming over them.

>>149738042
Though to be fair, I wouldn't put Yonebayashi too far behind or ahead of the folks you listed as good. Is he new? As a director, sure, but I don't know how long he's been around.

>>149738074
Yes that was the point I was making.

>>149737671
Kill yourself, fucking furfag.

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>>149738042
That's because they all moved to Studio Colorido.

>>149723501
Ebin

>>149738340
Was this animated by ex-Ghiblies?

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>>149738380
yes

>>149738424
Who?

>>149737999
Doesn't Japanese live until 100 years old or something?

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>>149738567
Not even close.

>>149737671

Mah nigga

>>149738567
Maybe they know something we don't about his health. Keep in mind he does smoke like 20 packs a day or something.

>>149738688
Yeah the biggest fear I have about Miyazaki is that he's been smoking easily 5 packs a day for a long ass time, I'd bet most of his life. And he's almost 80. No matter how good your DNA is with resisting the effects of smoking, that's gonna build up.

>>149724859
>Dropped
>it's an /a/ confuses the medium for content post

>>149738751
Don't worry. All than humanitarian and save the Earth bullshit he is spouting will come back to save him.

>>149738766
What?

>>149738688
Inside Miyazaki's body, you'll find that he doesn't have normal organs like us. he has what is essentially the sea of corruption within. All the cig he smoked gets converted to clean and pure resources.

>>149738818
Who gives a shit if it's CGI?

You come for the artist, not the canvas.

>>149738974
No

>>149738766
>you can't drop something because of form
Look, I hate "anime is a visual medium, so only visuals matter!" faggots as much as the next guy but most CGI anime severely affects the enjoyment factor by how bad it looks, and Miyazaki's movies generally get by on visual charm/whimsy at least as much as on content.

>>149739006
What if someone doesn't like CGI?

>>149739081
Then they should reread my post.

>>149738663
Kon died from a disease, if people take care of themselves like Miyazaki they could live to 100.

>>149739125
>people take care of themselves like Miyazaki
See >>149738688

>>149739125
>if people take care of themselves like Miyazaki

Good joke, chainsmoker.

>>149739006
>who gives a shit if it's produced in a way that generally negatively impacts quality
Are you dumb?

>>149738567
Eh, a lot of those elderly people have been dead for years and are just elaborate pension scams.

People can live for a long time, just eat well and hope you don't get cancer, a disease, or in an accident.

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>>149739146
>>149739186
Oh shit, forget it.

>>149739119
Obviously one who dislikes CGI gives a shit if it's made with CGI.

>>149739187
>generatively negatively

You forgot 'often' and 'maybe,' anonymous.

woah I didn't see that one coming

>>149729918
can you expand on this?

>>149726461
just watched it. I get the feeling it may have been the reason Miyazaki wants to make another movie

>>149739283
>generatively
Apparently you can neither read nor copy-paste.

>>149739504
Not him, but what I think he's referring to is an obituary Miyazaki wrote right after Tezuka's death where he shat on him for a bunch of stuff, including the low 500K yen budget of Astro Boy that established the business model/standards for TV anime.

>>149723200
Never watched a movie from him so I don't particularly care

I just want another Spirited Away. Meme award aside, it's really good.

>>149739940
at least watch castle of cagliostro

>>149739760
well fuck miyazaki then, there goes any respect I had for him

Just like us, he can never leave his home.

Hope he has good ideas, budget won't add much that Ghibli wasn't already doing without him

He must have seen how terrible Kimi no Na Wa was.

>>149737671
His least favorite film he's done is Porco Rosso so he's the worst person to do a sequel.

>>149740704
Didn't stop him from writing a sequel

>>149739940
Watch Spirited Away

>>149723200
This gives me hope for anime. I was almost ready to drop the medium for /film/

So my hope is that he would only do this because he has an idea that he's excited about again
Since being 'uninspired' was the big reason for Ghibli putting out so much mediocre stuff up until this retirement.

>>149723501
Literally kill yourself.

I really hope it's an adventure movie. I like his more mellow works but he hasn't made an adventure movie in ages.

>>149741395
He won't, enjoy your CGI caterpillar.

>>149740704
He just said it was silly, not that he didn't like it.
It was out of place for a studio that was doing kid's movies.

>>149725375
I could see that. The landscape and scenery gives that vibe sometimes

>>149741209
>I was almost ready to drop the medium for /film/

That's fine, you can fuck off back to /tv/ then where your kind belongs. You won't have to worry about any of us missing you.

>>149723501
fuck you

To everyone saying ghibli is dead or that they have no good animators left clearly hasn't seen The Red Turtle.

>>149741470
Who said anything about that shithole? The fact of the matter is, film as a whole has far more artistic merits than anime, especially in comparison to what the industry spews out each season.
Really, if you enjoy half the seasonal tripe that airs in any given season, you're equivalent to /tv/ and whatever other consumerist board, filled with people who view any given medium as mere entertainment.

Make
Anime
Great
Again

Based Miyazaki has come to save us

When is he going to retire from retiring?

>>149741721
Please /tv/, you have to go back.

>>149723501
Surprisingly, I kind of agree.
Execution is brilliant, actual content - not so much. Maybe just not my cup of tea.
His take on environmentalism in particular really gets under my skin. Total lack of faith in humanity's capabilities.

>>149738380
No, it wasn't.

>>149741619
The Red Turtle was not animated by Ghibli, you dumb fuck.

>>149723501
>It's a faggot episode

>>149741896
In fact, I actually agree with his lack of faith. If there's a thing we have learned about mankind, it's that it destroys without giving back. Every species is supposed to work within the frame of Nature and contribute to the cycle but mankind doesn't.
I get this is inherently due to how flawed Nature was to begin with (letting a weak species rise to the top and keep dominating by ruse) but it's no reason to spit on the system more than you should.

>>149737746
No it isn't. It is over 100 screens. That number listed there isn't number of screens.

>>149723485
Digibro pls

>>149742089
>The Red Turtle
"The Red Turtle (French: La Tortue rouge) is a 2016 French-Belgian-Japanese animated film directed by Dutch-British animator Michaël Dudok de Wit in his feature film debut. The film is a co-production between Wild Bunch and Studio Ghibli,"

You understand what "co-produced" means, right?

>>149742386
But nature is dumb. It's not some sentient force, it's a bunch of plants and animals trying to survive.
We just need to learn not to shit in our home. Or maybe we need to invent some effective cleaning method, like self-replicating nanoelectromechanical machines. That's it.
It's a complicated technical problem. It's not some kind of esoteric spiritual quest.

>>149742808
Yeah and it's not synonymous with "animated by". The film was an almost entirely European production, Ghibli's involvement was minimal.

>>149743015
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3666024/fullcredits
Literally the only Japanese names in the entire thing are Suzuki and Takahata and they don't even make up 1/5th of the people involved in production.

>>149743144
>>149742808
Using the Ghibli name is literally just marketing they did not real work on the film.

>>149741896
>>149742916
>climate change deniers
Truly their own brand of retard.

>>149743379
What? Where did I say or imply that?

I can't wait for this hippie to die so the industry can finally moves forward

>>149742386
>Every species is supposed to work within the frame of Nature and contribute to the cycle but mankind doesn't.
That's not how it works. There's no real balance in nature - individual species are perfectly capable of ruining their environment and driving themselves to extinction for short-term evolutionary benefits. Nature has no plans and the same thing would have happened to us a long time ago if our particular evolutionary niche wasn't intelligence and ability to shape our surroundings. Unlike all the other species, we have a choice. Whether we'll take it or follow our basic animal instincts that only care about fucking and consuming is up to us.

>>149726435
>Oscar Bait: The Movie
>good

All I want from this man is another manga in the same vein as Nausicaä....is that to much to ask?

>>149743957
He spent 15 years of his life on that. He'd be lucky at this point to have 5.

Is Miyazaki-sensei a paedo?

>>149743986
Wasn't it 12 years? Anyway I would take his unfinished manga rather than anime feature-length film about caterpillar.

>>149743957
I know that feeling too well.
>>149743986
AH

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>>149723304
>less like ponyo
What is wrong with you?

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>>149724526
>

Anime is saved once again.

The ONLY thing that can keep me away from seeing this is if he decides to make it 3D CGI trash animation like what we've been force fed with pixar nonstop for the past decade and a half.

I'm sure it will still be the gorgeous 2D animation like Ghibli has always done, but I am a little concerned due to him doing that CGI short film recently.

thats literally the only thing that can either make the new film shit or not.

Castle of Cagliostro is Miyazaki's best film and and it is a masterpiece. He can do no wrong in my eyes.Even his worst film is still decent.

i'm sure it will be fine...unless they use CG for the character models, then were fucked. It's okay to use CH for background objects, cars, buildings, trees even though i still looks better hand drawn, but i'd still be okay with it. Just keep it away from the actual character models. We don't want it to look like the recent Ghost in the shell movies, berserk series, or anything similar to those abominations..

I want him do a film that takes place in the 70's or 80's. It would just look amazing.

>>149725412
vote Miyazaki for MAGA.

>>149726546
art college and film making. Specified for cartoon and animation

>>149745149
ignore this anon. you'll just be wasting your money. most people who went on being really successful in animation or film never went to school for it. literally a waste of time.

M I S T A K E

until now

S A V I O R

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What's going on here?

aside from the shitposting, this is a pretty historical thread. make sure its archived, i find shit like this interesting a few years down the line.

:where were you when you found out based miyazaki announced he was coming out of retirement"

also was this announced as a written thing or is there footage of him actually declaring it. if so, i'd love to see a subbed version.will warm my heart. although i do hope its not wasted on that dumb caterpillar shit he was working on a year or so ago.

>>149746442
They're using a pre-rendered human body to model how a caterpillar would craw.

>>149746589
>although i do hope its not wasted on that dumb caterpillar shit he was working on a year or so ago.

You have zero reading comprehension then because that's what he wants to make.

>>149746589
>aside from all the shitposting
>shitposts anyway

>>149734695
>m-m-muh charming old man who can do no wrong!
How to spot newshits who only watch compilative circlejerks.
Remove yourself from the discussion, moron.

>>149746669
Kill yourself Shitkai, Miyazaki will never acknowledge you.

>>149723200
Praise the Lord, kek

>>149746612
is that legit?

does that mean the next ghibli movie is gonna be all CG instead of hand drawn?

if so i think i might be sick.

>>149723200
At this point he's just like us, who can't leave this place for good.
Fucking junkie.

>>149738300
>not liking GAR pig ojisan in a platonic way

He doesn't even have fur, you retard.

Fucking yet another proof than Miyazaki loves anime, loves animation.

He hates the industry, what became of audience. But he can't just let it go.

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>>149724400

>Tfw satoshi is dead

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>>149723200

>>149725098

He's 75 anon.

Dont make scared like that.

I hope he can create another god tier anime in next 10 years.

>>149739006
>Who gives a shit if it's CGI?
modern /a/ everyone

>>149723200
What's the chance of this next work be an ecchi?

>>149723200
>implying no one didn't see this coming

>>149747948
CGI isn't inherently bad, it's just almost always bad in anime.

>>149748223
CGI is the death of animation, idiot.
Stop lapping up Disney's garbage and use your brain for a second.

>>149723200
THE
ABSOLUTE
MADMAN

WILL HE EVER REALLY RETIRE?

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>Complains about the industry.
>Wants to come out of retirement to work on a CGI film.

>>149748393
He's running out of cig change and CGI is cheap to make.

Attach his name to one final movie and he'll have smokes to last until his death.

The last of Miyazaki's "amazing, completely heartful, classic, ___________insert adjective for living legend film" movies was Spirited Away. That was the beginning of hi and Ghibli's downturn.

I'm hardly saying anything like "all his/their movies were 'bad' after that", they weren't. And it's hardly like every film he and Ghibli made PRIOR to Spirited Away fit into that category either.

But there were no films of the memorability and quality of Spirited, Laputa (which is my personal favorite), Cagliostro, Nausicaa, Mononoke Hime, etc. after that point. There WERE films post that point which had 'the magic', whatever word you want to use for it, Howl's, which was the next film after Spirited if I'm not mistaken, definitely had all the Miyazaki and Ghibli flair, but while the feel, characters, look, and world felt right, the movie is a disjointed patchwork that doesn't come together as a narrative and just kind of ends.

All of his and Ghibli's films without him, whether his son's or other creators range from 'meh' tier to 'this has that ole' MiyaGhibli magic, but doesn't form a competant whole.

>>149748308
No need to be so hostile when he was basically agreeing with you. CGI can be done with the same care as hand drawn works, it just never really is. Disney was the Mecca of fluid, realistic, painstaking animation so they know better than anyone that it seems to be dying a slow and sad death.

I'm too lazy to google if this was Disney or not, but I remember seeing the film Tangled and being genuinely amazed by the quality of the renders. They spent like 2 years handrawing her hair before implementing it into CGI so that it would look fluid and real. So I think I agree with him in saying CGI isn't inherently bad, it's just never going to be done properly because nobody besides Disney has the budget to do it in a way that doesn't look completely jarring.

>>149723200
Just die already mememan

>>149723501
have another (You)

>>149723200
The Dame Nellie Melba award goes to..

>>149748822
Pretty much exactly what I meant. CGI can be done well it just almost never is. I would like to think Miyazaki would ensure if he was using it he would set a new standard for Japanese animation given how known he is for being pedantic about animation to the point of redrawing cuts in his films he doesn't feel the animator has done quite right.

>>149749033
Miyazaki has never come close to spirited away and probably never will again. Is it so wrong to have low expectations when someone has already hit such a high peak? If it turns out to be a masterpiece I'll happily bow down to gook Disney and repent for doubting him. But after howls moving castle, ponyo and wind rises, I'm not going to pretend everything he does is gold. The ghibli feel and aesthetic can only carry disjointed dialouge and shallow stories so far.

Retirement was a mistake

>>149748818
That's really cool man, except I'd say Ponyo and Wind Rises are his best films since the '80s.

>>149748818
Takahata >> Miyazaki

>>149738688
cigarettes was a mistake

>>149749338
I don't think so.

>>149749356
Why not?

>>149749377
I think this is a pointless discussion since ultimately they're both the best. Miyazaki just has more films I'd consider great.

>>149748818
Kaguya and Wind Rises > Spirited Away
Takahata > Miyazaki

>>149723501
Its better than another dose of Isekai garbage or moe blob by a country fucking mile.

How is it feel to genuinely have a shit opinion?

>>149739504
>>149739760
>>149740019
Yes, this. Thanks for the clarification for the Anon.

To me, Miyazaki is piece of shit compared to the Tezuka.

Tezuka had long term goals for the animation industry and manga industry, one of which was to reform way production committees worked. Man turned down production rights to Stanley Kubrick's Space Odyssey, claiming he "had too many family members to take care of." Man died too early.

How much does Miyazaki pay his least-experienced animator? Does he even get paid? Does he really believe he's above his own criticism?

Miyazaki is dead to me, post-Tezuka. We seriously lost wrong men for all the wrong reasons.

>>149749552
How "is it" feel to not speak English as a first language?

>>149749755
Miyazaki's complaints are valid though, are they not?

>>149748818
Wind Rises and Tale of Princess Kaguya are the best films Ghibli has produced since the early 90s. I will admit, since Mononoke, films were worse.

>>149749911
I think I prefer Yamadas and every Miyazaki withholding Howl's to Kaguya. Still great films though, and I agree with your overall point.

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>>149749248
The best Miyazakis are the ones that suffer least from his environmentalist preachings: Totoro, Porco Rosso, Spirited Away.
Mononoke Hime would be his masterpiece if it wasn't for the sledgehammer style moralism. Howl's ditto, would be as good as Spirited Away if he just could forget about his leftist agenda. Ponyo was amazing till the last 15 minutes, when it became an environmentalist clusterfuck. Haven't seen The Wind Rises.

>>149750182
I don't believe any of his films suffer from that, so I can't agree. Howl's is his weakest film in my opinion, but for other reasons.

>>149750182
I'm glad that someone else finds him a little sanctimonious. Granted, he at least makes his anti-environmentalist villains sympathetic and understandable to a certain extent, which isn't something I can say for other children's films.

>>149750182
>Spirited Away
>suffers the least from his environmentalist preachings
Nevermind how the pollution fo a river almost kills Chihiro.

>>149750235
I guess it's in the eyes of the beholder.
But I sat through Mononoke Hime rooting for the bad guys and wishing for all the goddamn animals to end up on an Irontown barbecue.

>>149750275
That's pretty mild compared to stuff like Nausica.

>>149750182
If it isn't for the enviromentalism it's about how the rural lifestyle is better and more rewarding for children or just having a nostalgic musing about the world in the between-wars era. It's the basis of his work, you simply cannot take that away from him.

>>149749849
It actually isn't.

For Tezuka, as a starter, man has connections to Imperial family, so money never EVER mattered to him. He paid his animators and assistants well, and even if they overworked, this part nobody denies.

Behind the scenes, Tezuka and his manager actually received 750k~1.5M, apparently per episode. Sad part is, this still was not enough, so Tezuka sacrificed a lot of his loyalties earnings to continue productions. Tezuka knew animations itself does not earn money, and it's the goods that spawns from the story, hence his effective uses of Star System.

He also knew that animators took the most risk when animations were released, when you compare the whole effort in production committee as a whole. He knew profit division scheme was eventually not going to work (what's precisely happening right now). He was going to eventually use his power as high-profile mangaka as leverage, but before that happened, Mushi Production went bankrupt.

His workers were paid even after the bankruptcy. Do you think if Ghibli went bankrupt, Miyazaki will still pay his ex-workers?

>>149723501
And another girl MC that needs no man

Best Ghibli film is Whisper of the Heart.

Thanks for giving Kondou an aneurysm, Miyazaki.

>>149750182
>leaving out Castle of Cagliostro

>First feeling: excitement
>I see it will be about a fucking caterpillar
Tell me this isn't true. I have faith in based Miyazaki but...a story about a caterpillar? really? Yes, I know he already did a short on this, but he says he wants to "extend it", so I suppose it will be about that.

>>149749248
Not sure if I should take this as Wind Rises being bad since you clump it together with ponyo which is easily miyazaki's worst

>>149750400
Howls Moving Castle is the worst tough

>>149723200
>retirement was a mistake; It's nothing but trash.

>>149750676
howls bad too, but at least it has some nice eyecandy

>>149724859
>cgi
now im interested to see how he handles it

>>149743797
what would be defined as oscar bait?

>>149752050
>>149724859
The short is CGI, I don't think it's going film's gonna be if he stimates it's going to take five fucking years to make it.

>>149724962
WOAAAHOOOO

>>149723200
>http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-11-13/hayao-miyazaki-working-on-proposed-new-anime-feature-film/.108775

He came out of retirement almost immediately after he said he retired last time. Actually, I hope he keeps producing films until he's 150.

>>149752101
any cgi i mean

>>149754854
He kinda hurts Ghibli by not letting them find potential successors.

>>149755317
The only good "successor" they had died of cancer. Everyone else they tried ranged from mediocre to disgrace.

>>149750297
>But I sat through Mononoke Hime rooting for the bad guys and wishing for all the goddamn animals to end up on an Irontown barbecue.
I didn't see the Irontown people as bad guys, really, nor did I think that you were supposed to take sides in the conflict. A lot of the Irontown people were outcasts, and they were also rebelling against the authority of the government on top of fending off the forest spirits; they were doing everything for their own survival and not just out of the typical arrogance of mankind.

>>149726626
You needed Miyazaki to come to this conclusion?

>>149743797
>Japan cares about the Oscars

The only miyazaki film Ive watched was spirited away. Guess I can try and get into more of his stuff.

>>149723200
Miyazaki vs Shintai the battle of who's the most hackiest of'em all

Let the onslaught began

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>>149723587
>>149723674
>>149723720
>>149734807
>>149741492
>>149742197
>>149749552
This fossilized relic of a man will never acknowledge your existence, why do you feel the need to be so mad on his behalf?
You really need to reconsider where your priorities lie.

>>149750182
Well, while I'm a conservative, I actually do agree with how a beautiful environment benefits our people, since I love nature, as well.
Now, I'm not a screaming vegan, but I do think we should regulate things that hurt the beauty of the world, which our children may not be able to see.

>>149758095
People usually get upset when someone insults something they like, autism-kun.

miyazaki was a mistake

>>149723501
>Hooray I can't wait for more overrated family friendly themes and boring writing hidden behind the same style I've seen for a decade.
Fucking this
This senile fuck couldn't be more disconnected from modern audiences if he tried.

For a clown who spews his bullshit how modern anime is itself disconnected from social values he sure cant help but create idealized puppets with no sexuality nor any relatable human qualities.

Watching his movies is like watching those old nuclear family ads from US of some imaginary period in history that didnt exists outside of crappy literature and pleb media. This literally goes for every low effort movie Ghibli shits out.

>>149755379
>The only good "successor" they had died of cancer.

Actually he died in a brain aneurysm because Miyazaki overworked him on Princess Mononoke.

>>149746442
Kawakami (the Chairman of Dwango, Nico Nico Douga)

Kawakami:
We've invented a CGI automation technology that learns motion automatically.
I think this creepy motion is usable for something like zombie games.

Miyazaki:
...
I have a friend who is physically crippled.
This reminds me of him.
I don't find this interesting at all, extremely disgusting.
I don't want this to connect with our works.
I feel our lives are extremely insulted now.


in short, Kawakami BTFO.

>>149760605
>I have a friend who is physically crippled.
>This reminds me of him.
>I don't find this interesting at all, extremely disgusting.
>I don't want this to connect with our works.
>I feel our lives are extremely insulted now.

What a hypocrite. He's offended by that and not the weird-ass shit he put all over Spirited Away and Howl's?

>>149723200
Beloved animator to next generation: "Suck it, I'm never giving up control."

>>149723200

He never actually said "anime was a mistake".

I came up with it and trolled you all with it.

ITT: Autism

>>149761626
What's wrong with that? If you're not an autist, leave.

Why is this thread filled with so many contrarians?

People try to hard to fit in around here

>>149762055
It's all the shy girls trying to fit in.

>>149762055
Its because /a/ has a rep for being really and strictly snobby, elitist or autistic about stuff. So newfags arrive and take it too far in an attempt to fit in thinking that the way they shit on everything with a condescending attitude allows them to blend in.

>the story is about a caterpillar
Sounds kinda boring

>>149750182
>caring for the enviroment
>leftist agenda
how i hate the stupidity that comes out of pol. jesus.

glad he is back.

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>>149762343
>yfw the entire film ends up being a slow crawl
W-what did he mean by this? The stagnation of animation?

>>149723304
Those are his best films tho

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>>149723200

SASUGA

>>149723501
Guaranteed replies