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Yu-Gi-Oh! Arc-V

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Peace to the fallen.
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Yuya used Attract!
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>>149657546
Yuya "egao-ing every day is the only way to play" Sakaki
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>>149654951
>clusterfuck
"Not making sense" is not the reason the show is bad. There isn't anything that needs to be explained away that feasibly could be.
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>>149657546
Yuzu fell for attract.
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>>149658138
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>>149658138
The opposing Yuya fell in love from the Destiny Knot!
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Post your face when Yuri uses pic related after he absorbs Yugo
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Post your face when you realize Ebina drew this before we knew Jack and Crow were coming back and it's never going to happen.
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>>149658431
>>149658342
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>>149658342
Lewd
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>>149658342
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>Kaiba and Yugi get a tag duel
>they both have their contradictions but eventually work together to win
>Judai and Edo have a tag duel
>they both have their contradictions but they eventually work together to win
>Yusei and Jack team up against Rex
>they both have their contradictions but they work together for the win
>Yuma and Kaito/Shark have a tag duel
>they both have their contradictions but they work together for the win
>Yuya and Reiji get a tag duel
>Reiji plays like a chump, Yuya goes berserk and the duel gets cancelled.
Is there anything this show can do right? They even messed up the protagonist and rival tag duel.
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>>149658431
>That's right Ayu-chan!
>..Then you use those materials with Aquaactress Arowana and XYZ summon this card: Chaos Number 73 - Abyss Splash Supra
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>>149659593
>tfw she confides in Fubuki everything she wants in a guy and what her kinks are in the sack and he's such a bro he'll give you a detailed checklist and flowchart so you're her King Salami
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>>149657546
Ono used Light of Ruin!
>It's super effective!
>The opponent's Arc-V fainted!
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>>149660674
The Four Dimension Dragons should have been her otherkin dildo collection.
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>>149659448
I don't know why any kind of battle royale or tag duel in this show is so shit. And this is the series that stresses large scale conflicts. I struggle to think of even one full battle royale/tag duel that can be called good. Either as part of the story or as a duel by itself.
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Remember when the lancers were supposed to be awesome and we all thought they'd actually matter?
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>>149661115
>>149661080
It hurts
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>>149661271
>episode title leads everyone to believe Sawatari was going to defeat Yugo
>Yugo uses a bullshit Spell that forces monsters to activate an effect to raise their level so Clear Wing can activate and negate them
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>>149661427
Man that whole duel was an asspull fest on Yugo's part.
>Sawatari is going to attack for game
>Yugo spams action cards to save his life points
>Sawatari baits out Yugo's first diorchic mirror
>Yugo activates the same effect twice in the same chain
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>>149661080
>feelsbadman
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>>149661584
Them Serena legs get me every time.
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>>149661636
She deserved so much better with a body like that
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>>149660888
What was the largest (in terms of # of players) single duel in YGO?
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>>149661841
3 Obelisk Force vs. Tsukikage, Serena, Shun, Gon, Sawatari, Teppei, and Micchio
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>>149662008
>Arc v is getting terrible. . .
>getting
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>>149661636
>Them Serena legs get me every time.
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>>149662152
W-whew
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>>149657546
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>>149658342
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>>149658342
I wish.
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>>149658342
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>>149664185
UTSUKUSHII
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>>149658227
''Egao''!

Yeah, you can feel this is their daughter
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1位:遊戯王ARC-V122話(6.1%)
2位.遊戯王ARC-V130話(7.3%)←New!
(参)BTOOOM!6話(7.6%) ※放送事故につき暗転した画面が流れ続けただけ
3位.遊戯王ARC-V121話(8.8%)
4位.遊戯王ARC-V129話(9.6%)
5位.遊戯王ARC-V118話(10.3%)
6位.遊戯王ARC-V127話(11.8%)
7位.遊戯王ARC-V19話(13.6%)
8位.遊戯王ARC-V120話(13.8%)
9位.遊戯王ARC-V123話(14.6%)
10位.ブラッディヴォーレス1話(15.6%)
hahahahaha only one left
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>>149664878
Yeah it's not even funny but damn near depressing.
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>>149659593
>>149659993
It isnt rape if she likes it
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>>149661491
And for some fucking reason, Yugo was using lockdown strategies with traps to stop opponent from summoning anything
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>>149664878
>>149664911
Thankfully for them, Konami couldn't give a shit since cards are being sold otherwise this would be a terrible way to end the franchise.
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>>149664878
Go on, Arc-V! I believe in you! You can do it!
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>>149664878
Shouldnt Btoom be knocked down a spot instead of replaced?
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>>149661720
She deserved all the cummies she could take
>>149661841
In GX there is a giant battle royal in season 3 that they have to go through to get to Marcel(Yubel). Hassleberry finishes it by using a card that everyone loses, so it's called a draw.

In ZeXaL, Girag sends a bunch of brainwashed students to get and finish off Yuma, Shark and Rio, but Alit arrives and uses a bunch of counter traps to finish them all off.

... dammit, I really wanted Alit to duel more. Both because he was awesome and because Battlin Boxers were my main deck too in that time.
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>>149664911
>>149664878
JUST
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>>149664878
Seriously, though. 130 wasn't that bad and certainly not deserving those ratings. I can understand 129, with Yusho finishing the duel like that, but even with them making Yugo lose his cards in 130 wasn't that bad.
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>>149665033
Source? If not, translation?
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>>149665038
Most Nips are probably pissed with how poorly characters like Edo been treated even now, more butthurt over Yuri using super polymerization(something I really don't understand), and the duel in general being a sloppy mess.
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>>149664878
>the most anticipated duel is BB tier levels of shit

Haha
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>>149665133
Guess you are right.
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>>149664916
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How would Yuya/Yuzu and their respective counterparts be as okosan and tousan?
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>>149664878
Will Arc-V be able to knock the black screen off the list?
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>>149665266
>entame couple
>bikers
>normal
>friends with benifits
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>>149665344
I doubt it.
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>>149665378
>d) It was terrible! They barely did anything so far and it couldn't have been any worse than that.
Being too kind at this point. Asuka basically duelblocked Yuzu in her debut(103) and literally 20 episodes later(123) she ends up carded. Even depressing when she wanted to duel Dennis, she's rejected for a dumb/hypocritical reason over Kaito because "MUH CIPHERS".

Edo ended up being nothing but exposition and a whiny Draco Malfoy compared to his GX version.
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>>149665486
>duelblocked Yuzu in 103
I don't see the problem here. No one wants to see her duel against security, since that would've been boredom: the episode. Besides that episode recieved positive reception. It's not after they treated her like shit.
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>>149665378
>d) It was terrible! They barely did anything so far
Better than Kaito stealing screen time left and right.
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>>149665634
Apologize, it's more like starting of Yuzu getting duelblocked. Having her simply watch Asuka instead of having her team pretty much hinted of what was going to happen especially after rushing things in.

In my opinion, any duel with Yuzu is always a treat regardless if she wins or lose, her getting shafted due to laziness and because the plot said so was one of the things that will forever piss me off.
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>>149664911
Finally, a Kaito duel with the ratings it deserves. Kaito's still alive, 5.

But in all seriousness, it's been depressing since 123. Also, 77.7% is a new record for 5 rating.
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>>149661080
It's fucking baffling. Like what is the point of them anymore, it looks like they aren't even bothering to include Gong and Sawatari into this final stretch of plot which is bullshit. This show had some lows but it hit rock bottom when the legacy characters began eating up important roles and duels as if other members of the Lancers don't exist. I hope they somehow manage to include them into the plot in the next few episodes.
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>>149661080
That was before we find out they make a shitty team and an even terrible leader. They literally don't do anything as a demand unless the plot demands them to. Hell even Yuzu's line for Serena saying that she helped the Lancers in the City was so forced and out of placed because we know the latter did absolutely nothing but more harm than good. Overall, it all ends up as a three-way tie between Reiji, Shun and Serena who in the end are the main reason they are so damn terrible. There was multiple opportunities for the Lancers before Nostalgia fucked p everything.
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>>149665651
Anything in ARC-V is better than Kaito stealing screentime and character arcs, even Eita and BB. Every single duel that Kaito's in has been a god damn bore and goes against entame. Why the fuck was he Yusho's student again?

>>149665929
>when the legacy characters began eating up important roles and duels as if other members of the Lancers don't exist
Most of, if not, all of Shun's entire point for being in this mess was to rescue Ruri from Academia. Waiting over 100 episodes since his debut for that moment, only to have Kaito take it away from him because "a rock slide knocked him out for several episodes" is something I'll never forgive. Not even Shun coming back the very next episode and dueling Ruri 2 episodes after that was enough since at that point it's just damage control like 130's been with trying to get Kaito and Edo out of the picture, that is if they finally and rightfully get carded/killed in the next episode or 2. I find it baffling that there hasn't been more outrage over it since Shun is ARC-V's most popular character, "Kaito being more popular than him overall" or not.

Would've been more fulfilling had Kaito rescued Sayaka from the rock slide and was out of commission until the Lancers arrived in Academia, but even more so had these legacy faggots not even exist.
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>>149664911
tvtokyo is from future
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This whole thing is fucking retarded
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>>149664878
>>149664911

One left? But what about
位.ブラッディヴォーレス1話(15.6%)
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>>149667263
Nips are being nice and not counting BTOOOM even though they technically should.
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Episode 132: 稀代のエンターテイナー – Kidai no Entāteinā
(The Peerless Entertainer)
Having obtained overwhelming strength and sporting a wicked smile on his face, Yuri sets his eyes on his next target: Yuya…!! In order to stop Yuri, Yusho resolves to fight him. A fierce battle between Yusho and Yuri then unfolds!

Summary:
Having obtained overwhelming strength and sporting a wicked smile on his face, Yuri sets his eyes on his next target: Yuya…!! In order to stop Yuri, Yusho resolves to fight him. A fierce battle between Yusho and Yuri then unfolds. Can Yusho’s Entertainment Dueling stop Yuri’s rampage!?

Cast:
Sakaki Yuya/Yuri
Yugo
Shiun’in Sora
Kaito
Edo Phoenix
Sakaki Yusho
Narrator
Akaba Reiji
Reira
Akaba Leo
Extras

Script: 上代 務 || Kamishiro Tsutomu
Direction: 李カンミン || Lee Kan Min
Storyboard: ノーチェー・ヤギ || Noche Yagi
Animation Director(s): Lee Sung-jin, Kim Hye-jeong
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>>149667957
>Yugo survives

>Kaito and Edo still getting speaking roles

It's shit
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>>149668002
>Kaito and Edo become the only characters to survive in the end
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>>149668002
I think it's too early to say that. Could just be a recap. Hell I thought Yuzu was going to survive back at 130 since she was voiced, turns out it was a flashback.
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>>149667957
>Yugo,Kaito,Edo,Sora still alive
>Reira,Reji,Leo still talking

What the fuck are we even doing anymore? It feels like it's a bunch of shallow pointless nonsense to run out the clock. This is as frustrating as the battle beast arc and the crappy Ruri vs Shun duel thrown in the middle of it.

I don't if Yusho beats Yuri or not, just advance the damn plot already! We're running out of episodes! Where are Gongenzaka,Sawatari,Shun and Jack?!
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>>149668090
>advance the damn plot already
>Want non plot relevant characters to come back
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>>149668041
Or, you know, Kaito and Edo will finally get carded in that episode, we all hope.
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>>149668125
Hey,Screw you.
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>>149668002
Could be Yugo speaking as a spirit inside Yuri
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>>149668198
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Is Arc-V post Synchro the biggest shifest in the history of this franchise?
Late 5DS wasn't that bad by comparison.
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>>149668533
>Post Standard
Fixed
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>>149668603
>Post Zexal
Fixed
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>>149668603
Don't get me wrong, Synchro had problems but it wasn't a legendary shitfest like what followed it.
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>>149668637
>Post Dark Signers 5D's
Fixed
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>>149668713
>Post GX season 3
Fixed
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>>149657492
Wait so its confirmed he will die? Wheres the source
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>>149668735
>Post DM
Fixed
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>>149668906
>Post not-card games
fixed
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Bloodivores has been pardoned for its sins! Not only does Arc-V claim 9/10 spots on the top 10 worst rated episodes ever BUT Ono managed to beat the black box. Twice! Is there any limit to this man's ability? 10/10 is not a pipedream anymore! Let's see if Arc-V can fill up the top 20 too!


Updated Top 10:

1. ARC-V 122 - 6.1%
2. ARC-V 130 - 7.3% <---- NEW
3. BTOOOM 7 - 7.6%
4. ARC-V 121 - 8.8%
5. ARC-V 129 - 9.6%
6. ARC-V 118 - 10.3%
7. ARC-V 127 - 11.8%
8. ARC-V 19 - 13.6%
9. ARC-V 120 - 13.8%
10. ARC-V 123 - 14.6%


[11-20]

11. Bloodivores 1 - 15.6%
12. Kumamiko (final ep) - 16.1%
13. ARC-V 126 - 16.8%
14. Idol Memories 1 - 17.6%
15. Valvrave (final ep) - 18%
16. Endride 5 - 18%
17. Terraformars: Revenge 1 - 18.3%
18. ARC-V 119 - 19.2%
19. ARC-V 124 - 19.5%
20. ARC-V 125 - 20.9%
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>>149667957
>having obtained overwhelming
Yugo confirmed absorbed.
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>>149669078

Only Yuzu and Yuya have counterparts.
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>>149669078
There are no counterparts besides the fragments of Zarc and Ray. They're the only ones who were affected by the dimensional split.
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>>149669109
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>>149669109
And all of this started because of the BB arc. At least the writers back than were smart enough to make sure Eita never existed but based on the new OP they have no choice but to bring him back.
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>>149669109
How the fuck hasn't Ono been forced to commit seppuku on live television yet?
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>>149669216
At least Eita was only 2 episodes and didn't have a 35 episode filler arc occur before it, making it drag upon drag.

>>149669295
They'll find a way.
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>>149669259
Because Nico isn't live TV, and the people who actually watch TV are largely indifferent to this show.
In other words, nobody cares.
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>>149669365
>In other words, nobody cares.
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>>149669358
We'd still have sloppy writing. So not much of a difference.
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how can this show be so fucking bad? not even zexal was this bad
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>>149669480
I don't know but I'm really sad about it.
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See this is why people keep asking why you're still making Arc-V topics. You're all WAAAAY too obsessed with butthurt niptube ratings.
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boy I sure can't wait for the DSOD movie to come out and forget this shit show forever
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I don't think the episodes have been that bad, to be honest.
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>>149669109
We need a Potara Fusion of Ono and Tewart
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>>149669587
>55555555555wwww
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This is what happens when you take Aoi Yuuki out of your show.
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>>149669480
Strong amounts of laziness and poor writing.
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>>149669700
You blind
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>>149669700
Dumbass >>149667957
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>>149669587
It's obvious that the Japanese Nicofags are perpetually butthurt now and they will constantly give low ratings to future episodes no matter if they're good or not.
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>>149669480
It was. The difference is that it was this bad at the start rather than at the end (Well, excluding the awful don thousand and number 96 garbage that occasionally popped in).
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>>149669634
No, it's what happens when you add alternate universe versions of characters from past series into your show right in the middle of the series.

>>149669480
Overshilling on nostalgia when it's not needed.
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>>149669587
They haven't. There was a ratings dip at 92, but people didn't really start hating the show until Edo got shafted, and then the double feature of 4 eps of BB followed by Japan's GX waifu (who previously caused Arc-V to start trending on twitter at 103 in japan) getting fucked by super poly just made them rally against it more than it honestly deserves.
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>>149669786
That's what I think. The worst episode since the end of the BB arc was 128, since it was just a bad duel, with bad choreography, with even worse dialogue and animation.

I think the Nips are just mad that Asuka got carded.
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>>149669109
Damn and we have like 15 episodes left. There's a real chance that almost all 20 spots will be full.
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>>149669871
Which is ridiculous since Asuka has never been a good character. Not in GX and not in here.
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>>149669587
>>149669786
>>149669860
These, there's far worse stuff out there than this.
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>>149669871
Wouldn't have happened if the show rushed nor waste things aside because nostalgia.
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>>149669109
wtf I love Ono now
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>>149669977
That's not really Ono's fault, more Konami.

Having to waste an entire year on one arc and an extremely slow-paced tournament because the nips want their annual dosage of nostalgia was the worst cancer Arc-V could have suffered.

Fucking Konami.
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>>149669587
>>149669786
>>149669860
>>149669970
You guys need to stop fucking caring.
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>>149669908
Yuri is better fap material anyways.
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>>149670054
Let's not make excuses for Ono and Kamishiro. It's clear there was executive meddling, but there is no excuse for how poorly the entire cast has been utilized even prior to Xyz.
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>>149670054
It is Ono's fault. He doesn't have enough skill to make executive demands work. I and many others can think of a billion ways to make Synchro more relevant than the crap they gave us.
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Post Ruri pls.
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>>149670180
Fluffy Ruri!
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Someone watched dsod in theaters and camripped a small clip. It has subs for some reason too.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BMstqezgDeO/
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>>149670180
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>People blaming nostalgia for the low ratings and not the horrible quality of the show

Stop. Most of the nostalgia characters barely did anything aside from Kaito. The show is just really bad and can't handle any characters. There hasn't been a good duel in over 20 episodes.
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>>149670359
I thought Yuya VS Serena and Ruri was pretty good
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>>149670258
>dat quality you can already appreciate in a shitass camrip
holy fuck this will be glorious!
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>>149670258
So they aren't dubbing it?
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>>149670359
Well, the nostalgia IS the cause of the sustained bottom of the barrel ratings. Things took a notable turn towards perpetual shit when Edo and Asuka started getting fucked.

It's been bad, but it hasn't been worthy of top 10 worst on nico ever. That's just blowing things ridiculously out of proportion.
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>>149670359
The problem when it comes to nostalgia is that it's not just the Legacy characters but how much things are being crammed in too much over the original casts.

The Synchro arc alone was basically 5D'S 2.0.
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>>149670412
It was. Yuri vs Asuka was also fun.
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>>149670412
It was basically a pointless duel with no really weight nor anything new expect a lazy way to debut the next cover card.
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>>149670359
>Most of the nostalgia characters barely did anything aside from Kaito
Crow did something. Crow did a lot. Jack did a lot when he got his time for spotlight, but he also suffered from the pacing of the Synchro arc.

The only nostalgia character who really did nothing was Asuka. She saved Yuzu who ended up getting captured anyway.
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So, head director is a guy who ruined 2 other shows and the head writer is a guy who doesn't like duels and the manga writer is a guy who doesn't like girls or plots that don't have tons of homoerotic subtext and something about humanity's darkness.
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>>149670453
They are dubbing it. It's just being shown in asian countries for now. US gets it Jan 20, UK gets is Feb 1.
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>>149670501
>no really weight nor anything new expect
Part of this is true, but part of it isn't. Yuto and Yuya exchanged bodies this time rather than Yuto just taking control of Yuya's body, which we didn't know could happen. We also got our first true glimpse of Zarc and Leo sperging out because of it. The duel was pretty much foreshadowing for things to come.
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>>149670525
>She saved Yuzu who ended up getting captured anyway.
Correction, she derived Yuzu of doing something to make her look good. In the end damaging more of Yuzu's character and further showing they stopped caring just like the rest of the original cast.
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>>149670531
Well, the ruination of 5Ds wasn't totally Ono's fault. He was away working on the movie during a large portion of the filler shit; also, the Sex Cult scandal shit forced a lot of plot detail shit to be dropped as well.

But the rest is accurate, yeah.

Also, Ono is notorious for losing interest in long running shows mid-way through. So, you can imagine how well that works with YGO.
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>>149670645
So, not only did she do nothing, but she also ruined a main character even more by doing nothing?

Giving me extreme GX vibes. Why were the nips mad again?
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>>149670628
>Yuto and Yuya exchanged bodies this time rather than Yuto just taking control of Yuya's body, which we didn't know could happen.
They had this opportunity of working with it back in XYZ yet do only when Ruri is brainwashing further proved how lazy it was and basically confirm Ruri nothing more but Shun's sister and Yuto's eye candy.

The girls had zero resistance yet Ruri was the only one who was given the certain treatment for the sake of giving Shun a mercy win. They ended up being a poor excuse of adding more villains.
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>>149670689
Because they're nostalgiafags who love GX for some reason.
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C/C/C vs D/D/D is tonight right?
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Just like with the Yugo duel at the very beginning of Synchro that shit should of been a fucking tag match. The Yuzu from Standard wouldn't let somebody fight alone especially if they were being ganged up on like with Asuka.

Yuzu's been ruined ever since she was teleported to Synchro and starts crying about how Yuya isn't there just like for all of Serena's bluster she never won a single duel against anybody besides scrubs off screen. I blame people thinking females could be important in a boy's sport show for the overratedness they put on the girls of Arc-V
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>>149670412
It was garbage. Terrible parasite monsters, Yuto being the only person smart enough to go for Action Cards, tons of standing around, Zarc making an appearance that didn't matter, Ruri and Serena getting up and running away after getting hit with a blow that blew out a wall just so they could be captured. It was terrible writing all around and if you thought it was pretty good then no wonder you find the low ratings abnormal. You have very low standards.
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>>149670458
No, things took a turn towards shit during Synchro. Edo and Asuka being treated like garbage was just another thing to get angry at. BB and Zarc being shit were the straws that broke the camel's back.
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>>149670938
Ratings were pretty high until 92, where they notably dipped for obvious reasons. Edo/Asuka/BB is where ratings actually stuck in shitville though.
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>Symphogear GX
>then this
Is Ono a hack?
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>>149671023
What if Symphogear GX had 150 episodes
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>>149671023
Not exactly. No one who is capable of keeping quality generally up for 50 eps twice (or making something as stunning as ARC-V 33-34) is truly a "hack."

He's just a lazy fuck who refuses to do his job properly.
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>>149671002
No it was Xyz as a whole. The Edo debut got good ratings. The episodes after that dipped. Episodes that didn't even involve nostalgia characters. Just shitty duels and little plot progression.
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Duel Monsters OST is way better than I remembered lads

way better

it's insane
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>>149671023
I think he's a lazy genius. His direction of 5D's during the Fortune Cup, Dark Signers and Ark Cradle arcs was simply marvelous. He should stop directing anime and switch to movies.
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>>149671023
Yes. He said himself he has no talent when it comes to doing long running shows which is why he always runs out of steam so quickly.
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The problem with Yuri VS Asuka is that Yuri used Judai's special card (Super Polymerization) to fusion summon Chronos's trump card (Ancient Gear Ultimate Golem), and uses it to finish off the heroine of GX, Asuka.
This is basically a huge insult to GX fans, or at least Asuka fans.

It doesn't help that Yuri suddenly switched his deck from Predator Plants to Ancient Gears, even though people wanted to see Yuri use new supports for Predator Plants.
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>>149671252
DMs OST has always been really good. They just never utilized it properly in the anime which gave off the feeling it was really underwhelming by using wrong tracks in the wrong moments and overusing certain tracks. But because that was the first series they get a pass since they didn't really know what they were doing.
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>>149671706
Who the fuck cares if he used Super Polymerization?
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>>149671706
It had a lot of problems. Including the now trend that GX characters debut new monsters in Arc-V that are already outdated and they still get blown out. Asuka is the only legacy character without 2 boss monsters. She played a shitty defensive style against Yuri for whatever reason and then tried to reason with him. She didn't reason with the 3 guys after Yuzu so it didn't even match up with her earlier character. Edo debuted a shitty new monster that accomplished nothing and has such terrible effects that I can't even believe they made it in 2016. Jack, Crow and Kaito all debuted amazing boss monsters. Jack's is a staple in most synchro decks, Kaito's is really good and leads to OTK, Crow debuted a shitload of Blackwing staples. Asuka debuted a boss monster that isn't worth the cost and another new Ritual monster that has a shitty level.

Edo debuted pure garbage and relies on shitty cards that raise or lower attack by like 100 to get his crappy boss effect off. They couldn't even give Edo decent spell for his shitty boss.
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>>149671930
I somewhat agree, I mean when watching it a lot of tracks went over my head but there were still a lot of great moments with the OST in the anime
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>>149671937
Obviously the Japanese fanbase because they complain about it.
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>>149671998
D-Fusion and D-Pressure are both good cards, but they're good cards that support garbage cards and can't carry themselves in other decks.
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>>149671706
That's not a problem. You'd have be an obsessive fuck to think it is.
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>Both are horribly written protagonists.
>Both of their series serve to wank them off at the expense of other characters.
>Both constantly emphasize their personal philosophies like a broken record.
>Both are shown to be always right.

So why does everyone love left but hate right?
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>>149671706
>>149671998
When you think about it, you could say that Yuri has done better in representing GX than the characters that came from GX. Same could be said for ZEXAL. Yuto and Shun made me want to watch it whereas Kaito made want to avoid it.
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>>149672142
Because left isn't a little bitch
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>>149672142
Because he looks and acts like the perfect self-insert? Either way, Yuya does have his fair share of fans on /a/rc-v and other YGO communities, even if he's a lot less popular than Yusei.
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>>149672142
Who loves Yusei? Everyone always says hes a boring fuck. Yusei is only "liked" because he's the least offensive of the 5 main characters. Judai's annoying demeanor despite shit being real, Yuma's annoying ass catchphrase and mindset, Yuya's arrogance and whines.

Every other protag has something that makes them hated except for Yugi but Yusei is fucking boring to watch and listen to after the Dark Signer arc and for some, even during that arc.
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>>149672142
because normies in the west stopped watching YGO after 5D's, so only the purists are left
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>>149672142
Because the part everyone loves about 5Ds is a self-contained story arc (Dark Signers), where the characters were done well, Yusei wasn't Jesus, and the duels were pretty good, too.

The reason people hate the same shit happening in Arc-V is because by the time the MC turns to trash, they're invested in the plot and characters already, and the options are "drop the show and never know the outcome" and "keep watching a show they know is shit so they can get closure".

>muh Sunken Cost Fallacy
Most people can't think on that level of logic over emotional response. Even if they know in their head that Arc-V is shit and they should drop the show, it's still incredibly frustrating to know that such wasted potential exists, and the fact that the show periodically throws a bone at the audience makes it even more painful.
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>>149672142
What's there not to love about a mechanical genius who fought his way out of rags to riches even after he got everything good he once had taken from him?
Yuya whines over everything and turns evil because he's the reincarnation of discount Zorc.
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>>149672114
Both are terrible
D-Pressure is shit in a world where Goblindberg and Tin Goldfish exist. Drill Guy does the same thing and doesn't cost you an extra card.

D-Fusion is arguably the worst fusion card ever. It requires monsters on the field, it's a slow trap and can only summon shit. This is a world post Super Poly, Shaddoll Fusion, Metalfoes Fusion and even cards like Mask Change, Miracle Contact and Miracle Fusion. The card is trash and not even casual D-Hero decks should run it.
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>>149672142
Yusei is an adult. People love adults no matter how crap they're written.
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>>149672201
Anyone got that image involving a drill up Yusei's ass? It's a travesty that I don't have it saved for this situation.
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>>149672280
>Requires exclusively monsters on the field
Nevermind. You're right, it's trash.
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>>149672249
>Judai's annoying demeanor

this shit triggers me whenever someone mentions it

i literally cannot fathom how judai could be annoying, he has a great VA and he's actually somewhat funny (not laugh out loud hilarious but still) pretty consistently, he also seems like he would be the most chill to hang out with out of the other protagonists
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>>149672249
>Every other protag has something that makes them hated except for Yugi
Which one? The guy who gets cucked for most of his own series or the guy who cheats in everything and is always right no matter what because he's the MC?
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>>149672320
Don't ask about the drill.
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It's funny how Leo could've prevented Zarc.
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>>149672407
I like Judai and I agree that he can be kinda grating until S3, where he turns into an edgy faggot, and then S4, where he is depressed the entire time and eventually mellows the fuck out.

I can understand how people would hate him, but still.
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>>149672264
>normies in the west stopped watching YGO after 5D's

try DM, or GX for a small percentage of people

I've talked to a fair share of normies about YGO both IRL and online, and none of them know anything about 5D's. If they have heard of it, they think it's ridiculous or shit. Literally the only people I've come into contact with who like 5D's at all are people who have watched every series. Even with GX the best you get is some normies who fondly remember the theme song and that's it, most people outside of these threads think YGO died after DM. You're just trying to justify liking your shitty series with retarded bullshit
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>>149672626
Blame "card games on motorcycles xD"
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>>149672496
WHERE'S THE DRILL?
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>>149672685
I'm sorry. It was funny at the time.

To be fair, we both did end up liking 5Ds, but by that point the damage was done.
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>>149672685
LK is cancer. Speaking of which is arc-v still his favorite?
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>>149672685
I sometimes wonder what would happen if YGOTAS never existed.
Either YGO threads would be more dead or we'd have more being crying about post 64 5ds since a lot more people actually watched it instead of refraining from it because of memes.
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>>149672407
>I cannot fathom that there are people who hate a type of character that I like! It triggers me!
Fuck off back to Tumblr.
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>>149672800
Not sure. He barely says anything about the other series this time round.
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>>149672716
I thought it was a screwdriver?
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>>149672829
GX was killing the franchise in the dub anyway. I can't imagine it'd be anything but dead if TAS hadn't happened.

Even KoA acknowledges that YGOTAS gave the franchise new life in the West.
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>>149672915
WHERE'S THE SCREWDRIVER?
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>>149672918
It's funny because I've heard people argue that the dub was good because it was like TAS.
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>>149672610
>kinda grating

see even this to me is hard to understand, all of his screen time up until S3 was fun to watch and he came off as extremely likable. He's probably my favorite protagonist and i'd imagine i come off like i'm making excuses because i'm gay for his design or something, but i legitimately think he has the best personality and mannerisms of any YGO protagonist

>>149672862
i don't even usually like that type of character that much, it's just judai

i was trying to be more fair in my wording to encourage some discussion so i could maybe understand why people don't like him, but i'll rephrase just for you: Judai is objectively the best protagonist and if you disagree, kill yourself

kill yourself
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>>149672249
I liked Yusei when I was a kid
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Why is she so perfect lads?
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>>149673101
That isn't Serena.
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>>149673140
My mistake, why is she so perfect lads?
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>>149672626
>You're just trying to justify liking your shitty series with retarded bullshit
that's a huge assumption and your post is a whole lot of nothing
I honestly couldn't care less about your real life experiences talking to people about YGO. They're irrelevant and they most certainly don't prove my point wrong. The reason why I'm saying 5D's is/was popular with normies in the west is because it gained the same number of votes as GX on that KoA online poll, while Zexal and Arc-V were dead last. See, that's a fact that you can't counter by saying that you've talked to a few people who didn't know about 5D's.
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>>149673101
What kind of vagina is that?
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>>149673241
The kind that has never been penetrated.
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>>149673050
>Judai is objectively the best protagonist
No. Atem, and to a lesser extent, Yugi both have a lot more depth and most of all they're not oppressively annoying.
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>>149673290
>Atem
>Yugi
>"""""""""depth""""""""""""
They literally have no depth or character.
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>>149673101
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>>149672249
I love Yusei's monster designs. He's pretty bland after Dark Signers though
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He should have returned so that we could make Infernites great again!
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>>149673205
>normies in the west stopped watching YGO after 5D's
>cites a fucking official YGO poll as evidence of this
>implying people stopped watching just because they didn't vote for Arc-V or Zexal as their favorite

how can you be this delusional

the people who voted in that poll aren't normies you moron, I love YGO but it's fucking retarded. The only normies who have a positive opinion of it only have one because they remember DM from their childhood. Just because some faggots have a different flavor of autism that you don't approve of and don't browse these threads doesn't mean they're normies. They're still YGO fans and are just as autistic as you and I
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>>149659448

>Shun and Sora won't have a tag duel

The most obvious thing and they never did it.
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>>149667957
So Yugo its confirmed to get nommed. Sadly Kaito and Edo won't die or at least thats what it looks like. I wonder why. If Yuri is already there why doesn't he card them?
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>>149673290
their characters developed better than judai did, but they don't have much more depth at all

also
>friendship bullshit and crying is less annoying than someone who doesn't take anything seriously and enjoys dueling

how boring of a person are you
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>>149673335
The only protagonist with no depth or character is Yusei. All the other protagonists have elements that make them flawed and compelling characters that change over the course of their series.
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>>149673506
Why thrishula?
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>>149673734
???????????
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>>149673734
Before it was an rank 4 deck Infernties spent their time vomiting synchro monsters on too the board.
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>>149673734
level 9 synchros boi

you were expecting mist wurm?
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>>149673506
>Kiryu, Ryo and Manjoume return instead of Crow, Edo and Asuka
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>Toadally Awesome
>Zoodiacs
Why is 4kids in charge of the tcg names?
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>>149673710
It's almost like you don't understand character development. Judai had friendship bullshit and crying too.
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>>149673977
not nearly as much as yugi though, and the majority of the sentiments he shared were not nearly as dragged out

that is also in part due to the fast paced filler nature of GX though
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>>149673734
He never used it in the anime or the manga, but Infernity decks were able to Synchro summon multiple copies of Trishula's in one turn with relative ease, when it was introduced to the card game.
As a result, fans associate Infernity decks (and to an extent Kiryuu/Kalen), with Trishula.
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>>149674023
Nobody cares about why Judai was acting the way he was. That's the character we were presented with and we came to hate.
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>>149674023
His character development was handled far better than Yugi's and any other Yugioh character. Judai actually had flaws so bad that he fucked over all his friends. He grew from what he was in the first episode. His bouts of depression didn't start in S3. They started as early as his duel with Kaibaman when he imagined Shou and Hayato dying. Then his depression in S3 after being freed by O'Brien was handled incredibly well. His actions as Haou weren't forgotten by him or the monsters of the spirit world. He was mentally wrecked and they hated him. He couldn't even use his fusion cards due to remorse for what he did with them.
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>>149673711
Yusei had some vague depth to his character in the first arc relating to him being a hotblooded guy who covered it up by trying to act calmly and the contrast he had with the exaggerated persona portrayed by the ultimately more cool-headed Jack.

But, thanks to whatever the fuck happened, those facades became their actual characters as of Part 2's first ep for some reason and Yusei abruptly stopped being a human being in all manners aside physical in order to better fit as card game jesus.
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>>149673924
What would Manjoume even use? He had like 3 Decks.
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>>149674194
>What would Manjoume use
>In a show by a guy that wrote 2 Yugioh series about dragons
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>>149674194
Manjoume would use ABC, and Ryo would use Cyber Dragon Infinity spam because he'd have betrayed Academia.
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>>149674136
i actually agree with what you're saying though, i like judai in all seasons more than yugi but what i meant was that yugi's development was more grounded or "realistic"

i'm doing a terrible job of expressing what i mean but even as a judai fan i felt that the things you're describing were retarded sometimes. It didn't feel necessarily unrealistic within the context of the show i guess. It was handled well on paper, when you type it out like that it sounds better, but it just felt like they shoved a ton of ridiculous bullshit into the plot to allow him to develop. Even though there's evidence of it earlier in the show like you say, it was still mostly left out until s3 and it felt like everything got put on fast forward. I'm not really complaining, I actually liked Judai in s4 possibly more than before s3 and some development is better than none . Maybe it's because of the longer length of the show, but i just felt that DM didn't feel as unnatural in that regard and that the ending was more powerful from a character development standpoint I guess? Maybe it's because there was a lot less evidence of development in DM compared to the length of the show
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>>149674631
>>149674136
Why did Sho become such a faggot in S3? Like he kept alternating between dick sucking judai and getting pissy at him. Does anyone else think that judai wasn't in the wrong he told Sho to figure something out his own in that one episode with Johan?
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>>149674631
The big difference is that DM had a manga guiding it while GX was freehand. Another thing is that Yugi himself didn't develop much in anime canon. Atem was the one who did everything. Yugi didn't show signs of true development until the very end. The manga handles this a lot better but anime watchers aren't going to say that Yugi was a developed character for most of the show.
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>>149674296
Actually, Manjoume would probably use his original Ojamas but his ace would be a fusion version of his Armed Dragon since that's what he's been assocated with the most second to the Ojamas, the V to Z series just felt like they were trying to tie him to Kaiba and I don't think I ever saw that monster again in season 4.
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>>149672029
Did they pitch a fit when Shun started shitting out Rank-Up magics?
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>>149674937
>Yugi didn't show signs of true development until the very end

agreed, that's kind of what i think helps to make it feel more legitimate, as dumb as that sounds. You're watching the show and everything is going swimmingly from a development standpoint, character motivations are all straight forward and they don't act inconsistently. Nothing really happens to challenge your views of them (apart from Atem's attitude after Yugi's soul was taken) like it does with Judai iirc. It's just the adventures of Atem until the end where it hits you that Yugi did learn a lot from him and that he's going to have to learn to live without his aibou. It could have been done better with more signs of Yugi's development throughout the show but it was simpler than Judai's shit so it felt more natural and believable. It didn't really NEED to have clear cut scenes that showcased development for Yugi because most of the show feels like evidence for that development once you're presented with the simple but effective stuff at the end

also everyone who died in s3 came back, i know judai's depression wasn't just limited to the fact that he had lost friends but it still made the whole thing feel more juvenile and took away from the viewer's ability to sympathize with judai
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>>149675719
Actually,.yes. People did complain about Shun using an important plot point from Zexal like it was nothing. But Shun is popular so he has defenders. The biggest difference is that Rank Up cards are an easy way for Xyz monsters to get better in the anime without BS. Super Poly isn't needed for Fusion.
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I remember people bitching about Crow and Shinji pretty much pulling off accel synchro without calling it that.
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Dic.Nicovideo.Jp/id/5454686

Nips made a primer on why Arc-V is so hated now and how it got to where it is currently. Someone should translate.
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>>149676475
Why? It's likely the same shit that's constantly said here

missuse of cameo characters and the main characters. Yuya and Yuzu used to be so loved now Yuya's a mary sue and Yuzu's fucking annoying
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>>149676543
Yeah but it's all neatly organized with distinct points rather than just a bunch of rambling with emotions thrown in.
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>>149676625
But the rambling emotions are what makes it fun, look at America and their reaction their new prez. Complete chaos.
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Fuck the nips. I don't care about the opinion of nerdy japanese people. I just want to enjoy the show without hearing about how they are downvoting arc-v just for the meme.
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>>149676475
So according to this the most offending episodes to the nips were 80, 92, 95, 98, 105, 110, 115 and 122.
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>>149676475
Is it a video or forum post?
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>>149676960
It's like a wikipedia article
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>>149676888
Let's see
>80: Yuya flee from the stadium and reunites with Sora
Huh didn't expect that.
>92: Zarc cockblock
Not doubt.
>95: Lancers hold off security, Yuzu tells Yuya to duel Jack
Likewise with episode 80, didn't expect that.
>98: Jack vs Yuya conclusion
I think the offender of that episode was when the whole city became happy all of a sudden.
>105: Kaito vs Shun
Not sure why. Probably because of Shun using action cards to prove a point. Or they wanted Shun to win to prove his point.
>110
Probably because of Edo's character being treated as a joke. Aka stomping his feet.
>115
Pirates, enough said. Oh and a lazy way of capturing Yuzu.
>122: BB last episode
All of the episodes were pretty shit and poor.
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don't know if we have this already
Episode 132: 稀代のエンターテイナー – Kidai no Entāteinā
(The Peerless Entertainer)
Having obtained overwhelming strength and sporting a wicked smile on his face, Yuri sets his eyes on his next target: Yuya…!! In order to stop Yuri, Yusho resolves to fight him. A fierce battle between Yusho and Yuri then unfolds!

Summary:
Having obtained overwhelming strength and sporting a wicked smile on his face, Yuri sets his eyes on his next target: Yuya…!! In order to stop Yuri, Yusho resolves to fight him. A fierce battle between Yusho and Yuri then unfolds. Can Yusho’s Entertainment Dueling stop Yuri’s rampage!?

Cast:
Sakaki Yuya/Yuri
Yugo
Shiun’in Sora
Kaito
Edo Phoenix
Sakaki Yusho
Narrator
Akaba Reiji
Reira
Akaba Leo
Extras

Script: 上代 務 || Kamishiro Tsutomu
Direction: 李カンミン || Lee Kan Min
Storyboard: ノーチェー・ヤギ || Noche Yagi
Animation Director(s): Lee Sung-jin, Kim Hye-jeong
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DUSTY ROBES
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>>149668029
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>>149677141
A-anons they wont egao Yuri r-right guys...?
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>>149676543
That article lists 5 problems with Arc-V, but I can only make out four of these:
- The redundance of the script and the direction
- The "lack of depiction"
- The sloppy handling of the characters
- The production
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>>149677141
F
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Where is he?
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>>149677696

Waiting for you on your bed.
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>>149677362
- The neglect of the duels:
1- Tag Duels
2- Penalty
3- Action Cards
4- "Shining Draw"
5- Unrelated card effects vs OCG/TCG
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>>149677696
dropped plot point
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>>149677229
It's over for Joeri. He killed too many characters already
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>>149677362
(Bare in mind that my translation is a bit iffy)

The 4th problem that the article points out is that card games (and as a result dueling) isn't that important in the show.

One example of this is people interrupting left and right in duels, like Sergei interrupting the duel between Yuya and Barett in episode 92. Barett loses, but he still succeeds in taking Serena back to the fusion dimension.

Another example is the Yuya Vs Ruri and Serena duel, where Yuya won the duel, but Ruri and Serena remained brainwashed and Yuya ended up being captured anyway.

The problem expressed in this is that in the Arc-V anime, the results of some duels don't affect the events that come after it.
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>>149677927
Isn't that basically how any fight could work out in a shounen though? You win the fight but they still succeed in their plans and shit?

It doesn't seem that bad. The real issue with cases like the duel in 124 is that there's no followup with Yuya vs the Doctor to finish the arc with a duel that DOES work like how Judai and Johan vs Yubel stopped the duel zombie shit.
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>>149670180
Can't. Ruri is busy taking all those Yuto cummies she couldn't during this whole time
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>>149673194
I DONT KNOW!!! How can a waifu be so perfect?!
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>>149673101
Cause she doesn't like wearing pantsu
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>>149677927
When the writer hates dueling what did you expect? Of course he's not going to make dueling matter in the story, it's only an obligation because this is a shill show. Why else would he let the carding beam work without needing to duel? Hell, why even say that Zarc can't be beaten unless it's by duel unless it's a suddenly sloppy attempt to explain why nobody tried to card Yuya when he set foot in Academia or even in xyz when Leo gave specific orders to KILL Yuya at that point?
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>>149677229
Only in the last episode. Remember Vector? Even when the psycho actually got a heart, he didn't become a good guy and supported Nasch as a spirit in the his last duel against Yuma.

Only after everyone is happy and everyone got revived that Vector truly went good.

So, they can't do that shit to Yuri before the end. Even if it's Arc-V, this can't happen
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If only this happened in episode 1. Perfect way to pay homage to DM episode 1.
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>>149678025
I guess the article claims that theres too many of those kinds of duels in comparison to the past series, where victors of duels usually get something.

I haven't translated the whole section of the article, so I may be missing some points.
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>>149678269
Ugh, You can be the evilest craziest motherfucker ever but it's okay because the protagonist is a super jesus figure who loves everybody. What a stupid unrealistic lesson to teach kids. Who do they think watch these shows? 5 year olds?!
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>>149678378
The anon isnt wrong tho. Most of the things that have happened in the past 4 series have been bad guys getting to use their evil plan even with the heroes winning only to be beaten after that.

Bakura, Yubel, Dark Signers, Vector/Don Thousand
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>>149677179
SILENTO BOOTS
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>>149678509
OVALAY
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>>149678200
Would it make more sense if Zarc's darkness give the Yus immunity to being carded? What about the Ruris' bracelets or whatever Ray's spirit has?
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>>149678200
I don't think "kill" was the best translation.
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>>149678656
Kill is actually a good translation for "shitomeru".
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Reminder the lancers were actually important for a small period of time before Jack VS Yuya in the Synchro Arc, with Jean-Michel Roger recognizing their skill and threat.

Which is, at the same time, some sort of justice was done to them and they getting the respect they deserve, in less than a single minute.

FUCK!!! I wanted more Sawatari winning, not him beating nameless opponents
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>>149678835
>Reira,Tsukikage, Sora,Yuzu and Serena
Ugh, I wanted those last 3 to be together with everyone soo badly. Fuck Dennis.
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>>149678835
I fucking miss the synchro climax. The entire arc was clumsily handled after the misadventures of the retard team ended, but the end to it was so fucking good aside the everyone instantly becomes friends asspull that Yuya/Jack resulted in.
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>>149679003
I remember a time when people called Serena,Sawatari and Yugo the Baka three.

Looking back on it, I'm baffled at how dumb they were.
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>>149678774
So when Yuya was trapped in a net and unable to defend himself with a duel disk, why didn't they just shoot him?
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>>149679108
Same reason why the other logical reasonings were ignored.
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>>149679108
If Yuya died, Zarc would then separate into his own entity at and kill Security, despite only being at half-power, but it'll get the job done.
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>>149679003
>tfw I'm still feeling the orgasm when nirvana paladin was first summoned with pendulum of souls playing.
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>>149679259
Not confirmed, moreover, they could just drug him into a coma.
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>>149679003
Gotta admit, Synchro has a lot of fillers and cockblocking, but the climax is great.
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>>149678835
ENJOY should have come to XYZ & Fusion.
I would have loved to see him interact with Sayaka-chan & Trains-kun.
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>>149679328
This is Yugioh nigga. Stop using real life. They're pissed dueling doesn't mean shit.
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>>149677927
>>149678025
No I see what they mean

Duels are like fighting in these shows, Yuya shouldn't win a fight but still lose because of a taser
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At this point the only reason why i'am still watching this shitshow is for pic related. How sad.
Ono better get fired after he is done with ARC-V
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>>149679896
>the only reason why i'am still watching this shitshow is for pic related
Stopped reading there. Yuri is the worst character in the entire show and you have extreme shit taste.
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>>149679896
Nah, because NAS and Konami don't care about Nico Nico they'll probably have him direct the next series,too. since it saves them time from having to search for another director and Ono needs something to do while he waits for the next Symphonogear project to grow legs.

After all, Arc-V may be shit but unless it being shit starts to affect card game sells it's a success for them. It's still a success now as we know they didn't put much money into the product past the first season.
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>>149680068
>Nah, because NAS and Konami don't care about Nico Nico they'll probably have him direct the next series,too.

Not happening.
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>>149680068
NAS would never use the same director twice in a row. It never happened and Ono wouldn't be up for it anyway.
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>>149680022
>Yuri is the worst character in the entire show and you have extreme shit taste.
A character that kills every Gary Stu, Legacy Duelists, overrated characters, make their fandoms cry and is Smug while doing it isn't SHIT in my book.
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>>149679896
Remember when he appeared about 80eps ago at the frontlines and only now starts actually doing things?
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>>149680210
He just a sadist who likes laughing onimously. That's all there is to his character.
You clearly don't need much to be satisfied.
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>>149680068
>Ono needs something to do

He's already working on 2 symphogear seasons. That's probably why he doesn't care about arc-v anymore.
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>>149680368
How do the Symphogear fans feel about this? Ono at least does them right,right?
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>>149680471
They hate him and I don't think it's confirmed he's working on 4 and 5.
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>>149680234
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ef1EChZhF8A
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>>149680366
>You clearly don't need much to be satisfied.
With ARC-V yeah i don't.
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>>149680471
Nope. It gets worse as it goes. Every single character goes through roughly the same character arc every season resulting in them becoming more and more a shell of their former selves.
S2 also introduces another trio as a foil to the main one and they arent as interesting as the main one and after their pretty uninteresting character arc happens they just hang there and the show does nothing interesting with them.
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>>149676475
>According to this Ono explicitly said that he would make sure the legacy characters acted just like their original counterparts from their respective series.

Well he fucked up big time
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>>149680538
>>149680688
I suddenly remember Team Ragnarok and how unimpressive their three polar stars were compared to the Signer dragons.
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>>149680718
He was obviously talking about his legacy characters.
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>>149680718
>Edo in GX, strong willed, bit of an anti-hero, follows his own sense of justice
Edo in Arc-V, weak willed, bit of whiner, follows the will of whoever beats him in a duel

>Asuka in GX, very temperamental towards those she sees as enemies, tends to go all out in battle from the start, tons of admirers

Asuka in Arc-V,some what easy going seems to retain her aggressive dueling style and makes alot of blunders.

>Kaito in Zexal, very predictable dueling style, very stoic demeanor and tended to lose more then win after his arc.

The GX characters were robbed but Crow,Jack and Kaito act just like they do in their home series.

Maybe Ono just hates GX. I feel bad for Asuka's VA she seemed excited to play the character again only to her her do absolutely nothing but die to a shill deck.
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>>149681248
Then you better do her and Twinkle Star proud by running their deck.

Man, We needed more monster and duelist interaction. I honestly would not be surprised if the Abyss Actors were as full of themselves as Sawatari is.
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>>149681341
Damn, that would be awesome and make sense
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>>149680471
S3 of Symphogear was shit but to be honest we are not sure if that was Ono's fault at all.
S1 directing was more artsy and creative while Ono is more hype shit and action.
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>>149681213
Kaito only lost against Tron in the Zexal series (he did die on the moon, but he still won the duel against Mizael)
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>>149657546
best juicy tomatoO
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>>149657546
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Whose the biggest predator in these threads now? Rin,Ruri or Tuning Magician? Their crimes have been given layaway for 4 threads now and they need to be stopped.
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>>149659448
conclusion tag duels are cliche
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I was told last thread that there were a lot of GX memes, let's see them
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>>149682555
>trips
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>>149682793
No.
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>>149682866
Please? I've checked your dubs
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>>149682807
Is it just me or is this guy a badass?
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>>149683044
so badass he has to be rendered incapable of dueling to pad out the ep. count
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>>149683044
It's not. Your dubs confirm it.
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>>149683044
After the Sychro dimension arc, not so much.
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>>149683403
lies
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>>149683138
>>149683403
Even Yuya is sick of that bullshit, as meme-y as it can be.
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>>149681248
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>>149683667
slut
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>>149683730
Only for her Master
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>>149672142
Left may be Jesus but at least he's handsome and doesn't preach about muh egao
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>>149684066
MUH KIZUNA
MUH BONDS
MUH FORGING MY OWN PATH
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>>149683506
>Shun: Hey Yuya, I'm going find the person responsible for the brainwashing even though Kaito said he would do that.
>Yuya: Wouldn't it be better to try to help me with this duel since this is your sister?
>Shun: Don't be ridiculous, Ruri already gave me a pointless mercy win so I have no reason to anything but be useless. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to turn around and get tased even though I was able to detect when my brainwashed sister was going to pounce on me.
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>>149684244
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>>149683506
Funny how she could have easily carded Shun then after tasing him but that would probably have him going out poorly and too easy.
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>>149684315
Funny how the two never once interacted with each other.
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>>149684244
>Yuya: Fucking writers...
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>>149684397
BTFO

STUPID ASS BITCH BTFO
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>>149684397
All that matters is that she is a Ruri.
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>>149672288
Not always true. It's not like Psycho Pass season 2 was given a lot of leeway on how terrible it was.

But what you're talking about does seem slightly more common when it comes to children's targeted shows. The older teens and adults watching them feel more validated and less insecure about being manchildren watching children's programming, when it doesn't fucking matter on anonymous or near-anonymous boards.
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>>149684443
I meant after Standard.
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>>149684128
And yet he manages to be less annoying than Yuya
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>>149684339
The same could be said for Rin not carding Yugo.
I hope this will be addressed in the remaining episodes, but I really have doubts with the anime staff.
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>>149684468
You mean his Ruri that he constantly belittled.
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>>149684514
>loving a literal whore
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>>149684468
I now imagine Ruri going ''Nii-sama! I finally found Yuto!! And there are 3 of them!
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>>149684568
slut
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>>149677842
Jean was resolved though, if he never comes back. His schemes got thwarted and the heroes saved the day, and his comeuppance was a wormhole. Whether or not he was handled well is another thing
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>>149684554
Slutty boys are the best
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>>149684739
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>>149669365
>and the people who actually watch TV are largely indifferent to this show.
From what was last seen of the ratings, by now it could be almost no one is bothering to watch at all on tv
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>>149684720
Yuto is inside of him, so Yuya is by extension her sexual slave and she has all the rights over their cummies
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>>149684739
>>149684804
so this is where Banana got it from
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>>149684554
>>149684739
YUSEI IS PURE DELET THIS
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>>149684871
Aki get off the internet
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>>149684871
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>>149684871
>Yusei
>Pure
>Told Tetsu he wasn't getting any sleep that night
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I'm actually really looking forward to Yusho v Yuri. If only in the hopes that Yusho's deck pays complete homage to Yugi's deck and we see a lot of cards that give a nostalgic feel.
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>>149684841
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>>149685023
Why would Yusho's deck play homage to Yugi's?
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>>149685085
what is that nanner up to?
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>>149685133
>Spellcaster Ace
>Magical Hats like card
>Swords of revealing light type card
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>>149685133
>Magician is ace
>magical hats
>swords of
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>>149685194
>>149685203
Those all have to do with him being based on a performer. Hat tricks and swords are based on circuses. Just like his white doves which are incredibly prominent and the rings his ace has.
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>>149685563
Just wait until his magician has a female assistant that's literally just a female version of it. Then it really wouldn't be homage, right?
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>>149685563
You mean kind of the way Arkana used his Dark Magician and cards? Or like how Dark Magician cards in DM were themed in stage tricks and things like that?
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>>149664878
Does anyone have the full nico nico ratings from all of the episodes for this show?
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>>149685818
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17BtM4qTNGsdmelipQ0cpQ04o5geagwc4ZMjfkplKAsM/edit#gid=1510163058
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>>149685755
That doesn't make it a Yugi homage. That makes them both homages to stage magicians.
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I want to go back to Standard when episodes were received really well.
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>>149685563
I'd agree with you, but his magical hats do the same thing as Yugi's, but better, so do the swords. And Yugi did a magical pigeon kind of card.
Yugi was the first entamate duelist. Remember MONSTA CADO. Fun times.
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>>149685925
Arc-V has been pretty selective with the cards Yusho has used so far and they're all newer renditions of cards Yugi used. Combine that with Arc-V being an anniversary series paying tribute to all the past series and it makes more sense that Yusho's cards are based off of Yugi's.
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>>149685901
I don't understand the nips. How the hell do they rate Kachidoki, towers, and the horrid shitshow that was 112 way ahead of episodes like 126 and 130? Hell, I know everyone hates the BB arc (and so do I) but at least 120 was the only episode this season that produced a legit vibe of zetsubo, had godly animation, and was full of suspense. How does Level 0 REEEE and the Dennis-Leo "duel" even compare? How do the terrible forced duels that caused the plot to grind to a halt (Dennis vs. Gong, Enjoy vs. Yuzu, Ninja vs. Shinji, etc.) even compare?
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Alright /a/rc-v, I need some pictures of Yuto.
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>>149687662
Are you going to ring your bell while thinking about sticking eggplant in there? You nasty.
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>>149687662
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>>149687662
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>>149687970
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>>149687662
Can't take a pic! Ruri is forcing him into her pussy
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>>149688021
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>>149688076
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>>149688132
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>>149685901
>Yuya vs Sora rematch was rated 96.1
Jesus I knew these two should've dueled again.
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>>149687662
I dunno why his hair is looking like bananas, but here is Yuto!
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>tfw card games really did destroy the world
>tfw Paradox was right
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>>149688189
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>>149688251
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>>149688301
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>>149688354
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>>149688413
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>>149688413
I meant reaction images
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>>149687076
It's always amusing when the larger context just wooshes over anons' heads, and they act like there's any kind of non biased objectivity or fairness applied to each episode individually when the nips passed that point (even sprinted past it) long ago.
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>>149688489
Oh come on, I was just about to get to the lewds.
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>>149685901
holy shit i didn't realise that we were doing so good until we hit xyz and fusion
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>>149688544
Fuck it, posting 'em anyway.
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>>149688544
Posting a pic of anyone who overlays is lewd by nature
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>>149688616
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>>149688189
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>>149688616
Horrifying
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Give me your hopes episode wise and card wise /a/rc-V.

For the episode I wanted Reira to play his unnamed CCC monster and for Reji to use a new synchro monster, he's got more than enough xyz and fusions.

Card wise I want a Sora fusion monster from dimensional box, either him or Gongenzaka synchro. there are only 8 new cards left to reveal and I want to see if Yuto will get an ocg original phantom knight or if he gets one of his spells printed.
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>>149688669
Pretty sure Yuri's teasing Yuto's ribcage.
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>>149688489
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>>149688891
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>>149688845
You pretty much nailed what I wanted from the episode. For cards, I want some more stuff for Phantom Knights, maybe Burial or a reveal of something that makes the trap monsters worth running.
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>>149688943
Nice try.
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>>149688986
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>>149688986
>>149689051
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>Yfw Yugo has an Accel Synchro that's a level 12
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>>149689172
>yfw Clear Wing Quasar Dragon
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Will Reiji reveal Reira's past to him?
Or did his memories already come back a long time ago and he didn't care?
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>>149688845
>episode
Another one or two D/D main deck monsters and a new Synchro, but I'd also accept a new Xyz or Fusion. Just not another Covenant. Maybe also for Reiji to turn the suck off, that'd be nice too.

>cards
Just something interesting and relevant to its intended deck. It's disgusting to see archetypes get fucked card-wise.
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Make Arc-V great again
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>>149688580
Given the horrible foundation this show had, it would topple over in the worst way sooner or later.
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>>149688846
he's just being a good brother
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>>149689232
>still jobs with it like the shitter he is

Can't wait.
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>>149689573
Well, even if that isn't possible. I can safely say that as of today, Arc-V is back to being better than Dragon Ball Super. Holy fuck.
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>>149690480
I'm guessing Vegitoo failed to deliver in order for Trunks to shine? What did you expect? It's his arc. Don't worry, I'm sure the bad guy is not completely down and out yet, Goku will finish it because this show is still the Goku show and people love him too much to let him sit back and let someone else take care of the issue.
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>>149690679
I wish it was as simple as that, anon.
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Is 5D's more linear than GX has been so far?
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>>149690876
I guess some sort of lore was violated then? I thought it was clear that the author doesn't give a fuck about that just like with Toei animation as long as it looks cool who cares?
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>>149690968
For the first 64 episodes it's probably the most tightly paced Yugioh anime's ever been.

Makes me think of what's possible if the producers allow Yugioh anime to be somewhere around 50-80 episodes instead of a bloated 150.
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So, how angry are you going to be tomorrow morning?
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>>149692015
FULL REEE
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>>149692015
What's tomorrow?
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>>149689092
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>>149692503
DELETE THIS. NO FAGGOT KAITO TOUCHES THE ONIICHAN.
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>>149692580
EVAESHUN
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So me your trump cards /a/!
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>>149690968
Up to that point not really.
Afterwards, there exists no YGO series more non-linear.
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>>149693226
that picture makes no sense, its like somebody was just looking for an excuse to draw Saito naked
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>>149693226
High on sleeping pills, are you saying the other shows are more episodic or that they're more like DM and have long arcs?
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>>149693348
GX is the most episodic series. 5Ds starts off incredibly well structured. Then after like 64 it turns into an episodic series for a long time. Then the tournament arc they'd been building up to for like 50 episodes is shit.

Zexal has lots of episodic content.

Arc-V is a mess all around after the first arc. It's the first attempt at a series carrying 1 plot for the whole run and it just crashes and burns at it.
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>>149693348
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>>149669480
>not even zexal was this bad
Don't be a history revisionist. It was
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>>149693441
Zexal was all one plot.
Dr. Faker & Tron's plot-lines were directly being manipulated by the Barians, specifically Vector possessed Faker by the end. Also No. 96 started out in early Zexal I and evolved into an arc-villain by II, just to be revealed to be a fragment of Don 1K's power all along.
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I have to admit I like Yuya's and Yuzu's daughter. She isn't a typical tsun and dere, but more of self-centered and nice
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>>149670359
>and not the horrible quality of the show
Zexal got better ratings than 5Ds and Arc V and it was worse than both
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>>149694146
She is way too much like how I imagined a child by Yuya and Yuzu to be her cowlick even looks like a girl version of Yuya's green strain.
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>>149694180
Zexal is better than those shows.
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>>149693546
>>149694180

Nice email you got there.
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>>149694146
what
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>>149694574
She's Yuya and Yuzu's daughter,anon.
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>>149694416
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>>149694180
What a faggot, am I right?
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>>149694613
isn't the boy their son too?
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>>149672407
>i literally cannot fathom how judai could be annoying,
You must be retarded
>he has a great VA
KENN is a fucking shit VA and it baffles me how he hasn't improved since Judai was his debut role yet everything he's done is still shit
>he's actually somewhat funny
Maybe in a dub then again everything in that dub is unintentionally hilarious
>he also seems like he would be the most chill to hang out with out of the other protagonists
I would not want to hang out with Judai. Ever.

Judai, much like GX as a whole, is only liked due to nostalgia and not much else and also there's a slew of retards who seem to believe his edgy phase in S3 gives him more "depth" when it was really just him being a debbie downer sucking up the atmosphere whenever he's around.
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>>149694839
The boy is from Yuya and Rin. Full green hair, wants to be a main character, is a semen demon...
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>>149684499
>It's not like Psycho Pass season 2 was given a lot of leeway on how terrible it was.
More like Psycho Pass as a whole and that's mainly because people blindly suck Urobuchi's cock like no business
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>>149672142
>People hating on Yusei

Please for the love of god somebody start defending Yuma then we'll know for sure that these threads have become complete fucking shit.
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>>149695122
Do not lewd the tomapple kid.
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>>149695237
>start defending Yuma
Shrimp are tasty? I dunno, I got nothing.
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>>149695237
He's a better developed character than Yusei and Yuya.
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>>149674136
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>>149695237
Yusei is just typical self-insert LN protagonist like Onii-sama or Kirito. Most people don't like those kind of protagonist and outgrow it after a while.
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>>149695334
Yes! Yes! Now we've reached the low point
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>>149695334
Better than Judai,too, at least never selfishly tried to do everything alone, then because of it, ended up committing duel monster genocide. then after that , cowardly run away from his friends under the guise of protecting them from when in reality he was just too scared to face them again after what he did. Yuma also did the whole "learning to enjoy dueling" thing better to, all he needed was people to be with him.
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>>149695255
Tomapple is already pretty lewd
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>>149695388
>Yusei is just typical self-insert LN protagonist like Onii-sama or Kirito
That's not Atem
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>>149695388
Tats and Kirito are generally seen as jokes due to the absurd amount of plot hax both possess and how their show fellate their them . People actually like Yusei and his status as MC isn't nearly as absurd as those two since YGO is already a show that's riddled with absurdities so what Yusei does isn't considered special fuck he doesn't even have a harem like his rival Jack does at worse you can just say he's boring.
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>>149695453
>>149695334
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>>149695459
Atem has a personality and real character flaws. Yusei has the personality of a stone wall and is as perfect as you can get. He is much cooler than Atem and 5Ds goes out of its way to show you just how amazing he is.
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>>149695618
>Atem has a personality and real character flaws
Yeah, season 4 proves that. He is a power hungry greedy person and completely evil.
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>>149695618
>Atem has a personality and real character flaws
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>>149695334
Whether or not people like Yuma or not, theres no doubt that he developed a lot in character throughout the anime.

After his battle with III, Yuma doesn't really need tactical advices from Astral, and can fend off alone in duels. His duels against Gauche and Alito are good examples of this.
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>>149695577
>absurd amount of plot hax both possess and how their show fellate their them.

Yusei is just as bad. The show bends over for him more than any other protagonist. Hikokubo has never created more situational cards for any protagonist other than Yusei. His deck seems to spit out the right card he needs at the right moment. He's the only MC to never lose on-screen too. He is practically a god among YGO characters so yes he IS special.
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>>149695618
>>149695650
>anime
That was the ONLY time in the franchise in which Atem gets any sort of character perspective and from a filler season no less, he is just an instant win button in the manga and the only time he lost was because of Yugi being too much of a pussy and it wasn't even about Atem going too far it was about Yugi not going far enough. He is seen as this cool character who everyone likes and Kaiba is obsessed with him to the point where the latest movie was all about saying how great he is.
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>>149695752
>Yusei is just as bad.
No, he's just as "special" as an average YGO protagonist. Nothing Yusei does comes to Atem cheating, Yuma outright breaking the rules and changing cards, or Judai being the reincarnation of an evil god king who main power is that he must always win at all cost.
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>>149681213
>Maybe Ono just hates GX
He's our guy!
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>>149695453
You don't seem to know what character development is.
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>>149695694
I, for one, actually liked Yuma starting off as a noob idiot. Him getting better as time passes, maturing up, learning with his trials and tribulations AND NOT FUCKING FORCING HIS IDEALS UPON EVERYONE ELSE was quite nice.

He had his downsides and upsides and we could really feel that he connected and tried to understand everyone else.
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>>149695972
Shut up before I suck your dick!
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>>149695932
>Nothing Yusei does comes

Yeah because Clear Mind and calling on the help of the Crimson Dragon is nothing. Yusei can create his own cards out of thin air for god's sake. Atem has never done that. People keep complaining about him cheating but every other protagonist has done much worse than him.
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>>149680471
>How do the Symphogear fans feel about this?
Do you really think Symphogear fans care about quality when the series is just a vehicle to sell music with the story and characters being entirely secondary? The reason why this piece of shit even became a thing because everything about the first season was an absolute mess from the story, the animation and the fucking tone Jesus Christ was it all over the fucking place and they've gone out of the way to retcon most of the shit in S1 hence why everything that came after is much more lighter in tone.
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>>149696116
That and Aoi Yuuki really got into her role as Hibiki
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>>149695835
>That was the ONLY time in the franchise in which Atem gets any sort of character perspective

Far from it. One of the easiest examples is how he's changed as a person from pre-DK as a sadistic loner psychopath to DK as a prideful person who must win to BC where unity and friendship are more important than winning. There even more nuances to his character like how he's conflicted about not knowing who he is, or dealing with the fact that he's already dead and how he has to relive that experience again in the Memory World. If you read the manga it makes Atem much more likeable and relatable.

The anime just strips away all that and makes him a very dry "I'm always right" kind of protagonist which is not who he is at all. The filler exacerbates this even more ruining his character.
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>>149696028
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>>149696321
>Happened once
>Yusei had God give him a card and created Formula Synchron as well as Quasar
>Was given the Saver monsters
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>>149696470
God from the future.
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>>149696028
I haven't watched DM in awhile, but didn't they say Yugi and Atem had the power to draw whatever cards they needed?
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>>149696257
>One of the easiest examples is how he's changed as a person from pre-DK as a sadistic loner psychopath to DK as a prideful person who must win to BC where unity and friendship are more important than winning.
Because Kazuki retconned that pre-DM shit, in fact that transition comes out of nowhere since his largely an enigma through DK then comes BC and he's all about friendship.
>There even more nuances to his character like how he's conflicted about not knowing who he is, or dealing with the fact that he's already dead and how he has to relive that experience again in the Memory World.
All that shit is is MW, before that at most he just struggles with his memory and it rarely gets focused on. Atem at no point becomes a relatable character probably because he was a psychopath in the beginning.

>The anime just strips away
The fourth season is literally the only time Atem confronts his own greedy and selfish nature and how much Yugi was an important aspect of him preventing him from going off the edge. That adds a lot more character to him than anything in the manga where it never get brought to attention how much of an asshole he is.
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>>149696470
>B-b-b-b-b-b-b-but it doesn't count.
Yeah because protagonist receiving powerful cards is something unique to Yusei.
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>>149695237
Yusei deserves it though. After part 1 ended, the best things he had going for him was his occasional wombo combo and homolust for Bruno. There are a lot of cons that can be mapped out for each Yugioh MC, some more than others.
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>>149696588
No one said it doesn't count. People really like to overplay it and make it seem like Yuma does it all the time. Especially when Yusei who gets fellated by the western fanbase turned a blank card into Shooting Star and was stated to create cards.
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Regarding Atem, it would be better to consider the manga version and the anime version to be two different presentations of the character.
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>>149695453
Being a good character has little to do with how good they are as a person or their moral compasses. Now, I'm not necessarily saying Judai is a great or good character, but you target all the wrong things.

It's ok though, total newfags and the underaged tend to not be able to make this distinction with fictional characters, so you're not alone.
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>>149696980
Ghost nee-san soon.
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>>149697065
T-Translation?
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>>149696980
Golden Zarc when?
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>>149697354
We have that purple dragon thing. That's pretty much Zarc.
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>>149696539
>I haven't watched DM in awhile, but didn't they say Yugi and Atem had the power to draw whatever cards they needed?
Yes, in later stages of the franchise this power would come to be known as the Destiny Draw, of which the Shining Draw & Barian's Chaos Draw in ZEXAL are sub-types.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO_YL7doBJg

Dennis accidentally Destiny Drew Poly back in EP45 and again in 74.

But the key is that Destiny Draws are always top-decking existing cards from the deck.

The next level is to have a new card be temporarily forged/willed into existence like Sabatier The Philosopher's Stone/Neos Wiseman in GX or Saver/Quasar/Scar-Red Nova in 5D's.

Re-Contract Universe in ZEXAL is on a different level in that Yuma/Astral rewrote the name of an already-drawn-&-declared card in the hand mid-duel into a previously non-existant card.
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Reiji won't lose tonight right? And even if he does, he'll at least give us new cards right? Right? Right?
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>>149696559
>in fact that transition comes out of nowhere

Not really. Once Atem becomes aware that Yugi and his friends know who he is he begins to slowly mellow out. There are plenty of instances pre-DK of him reaching out to help them like in Death-T or Shadi's game or Bakura's table game. He still retains that pride and sadisticness to him but he has more to fight for. Then DK introduces an actual obstacle for him to overcome and his pride and trust in others is tested to the extreme. His fight with Kaiba illustrates that greedy and selfish nature and by ignoring what Yugi tells him Atem realizes later how important he is to keeping him in check. That loss of trust from Yugi and the fear of losing greatly change him. This is complemented very well in the final battle against Pegasus where Yugi and Atem are on equal footing utilizing each other's strengths and weaknesses to overcome Pegasus, showing their restored bond. Atem takes away from this experience Yugi's kindness which he repeatedly mentions as something he has learned from him. BC is the eventual result of all of Atem's prior experiences where he understands that true strength comes from friendship and unity.

>All that shit is is MW, before that at most he just struggles with his memory and it rarely gets focused on.

BC puts a decent amount of focus on his memory. It's the whole reason he joins the damn tournament all the way from meeting Ishizu in the museum to the visions he gets during his final battle with Kaiba. It was also foreshadowed well in advance when Shadi first appeared too.

>Atem at no point becomes a relatable character

It's true that he was a psychopath in the beginning but his simple desire to help his friends or understand who he is, are things that normal humans can relate to.

>The fourth season is literally the only time

I already cited his battle with Kaiba in DK and that was a much better done example than the garbage Yoshida wrote.
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>>149697750
I'm guessing that Yuya creating and rewriting monsters cards into pendulum cards would fall into the last category.
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>>149698188
I'd actually place it into the second level a la summoning Life Stream Dragon. Rua Destiny Drew a blank card that printed into creation as he was holding it instead of overwriting one already drawn to the hand that turn.
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>>149698154
Screw the D, give me the CCCs
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>>149672800
If LK is still fucked in the head then I'm sure it still is.
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>>149698663
Me too, but I just don't know how on earth they would print them IRL.
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>>149697475
well, perhaps there will be two Zarc's; one representing the original version from peoples desire of destruction while a new persona of Zarc from bringing entertainment to people with smiles and dueling each other?
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>>149699966
>Zarc tries to fuse the DRAGONS again with Astrograph Magician, but right then Yusho chucks Smile World into the void along with them.
I would laugh so hard if that happened.
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>>149696980
My fetish in one cap.
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>>149691686
The characters (especially Aki and Yusei, separately, not as a couple) still needed some development before it could really pull it off, but yeah, it definitely would be.
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>>149693441
>Zexal has lots of episodic content.
It does, but it does it a lot better than others. Most of the early "___ of the week" episodes were introducing No. and developing characters, which is more than can be said of the equivalent episodes in GX and 5D's, and after 10 or so episodes of each half, a main plot was starting to form instead of having a distinct "beginning". After that, they're well-structured and don't waste time on things unrelated to the plot, despite still more episodic (focusing on different characters for a couple of episodes, etc.).
I still don't understand why people think it's the worst show. It has by far the least bullshit and character assassination, and it wastes less time (though it still does) than other shows, in part because it's the shortest.
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>>149670359
I genuinely wouldn't mind if each dimension got a similarly lengthy arc dedicated to it; the only problem I had with the legacy characters was introducing 5D's 50 episodes before all the others. That's twice as much time in the series.
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>>149699313

I've been thinking about that, since Konami doesn't like the idea of spell monsters, I guess they could turn the spells Rayra uses to copy monsters into some kind of fusion trap monsters maybe? Traps are kind of slow though, so maybe theres a better way to do his cards.
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>>149671706
>heroine
Literally the only character who could ever, at any time, be considered this is Yuzu. Every other was just another secondary character. Asuka and Aki are just as important/unimportant as Sho, Kenzan, Luca, Todoroki, Tetsuya, and others. More important than Hayato, Misawa, and Lua, but still not important or anywhere close to a "heroine".
Kotori and Anzu were both more important characters because, even if they didn't actively do anything in the plot, they had actual on-screen relationships with the other characters. DM even downplayed Anzu because they started in Duelist Kingdom and took out everything she did because they didn't have the "base" from what came before. DM and ZEXAL did a much better job of making the characters seem like actual friends.
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>>149700617
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>>149700715
>at any time
I'd say only for the first 29 episodes.
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>>149672142
Most fans (on other sites and otherwise) like both. In fact, they're often considered the two best on high-traffic sites because they're the two most "serious", "realistic" characters with "real" problems.
Of course, this is only "active" fans (which is a stupid term, but in this case I'm referring to those who still dedicate time to thinking about the franchise). "Inactive" fans know only about Yugi and treat him as a joke, with slightly fewer going for "Jaden" and even fewer for Yusei.
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So since Yeager is alive in Synchro, and they still call it Heartland does that mean he's actually around in XYZ somewhere?
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Yusei in Arc-V, when? Someone need to save this show and defeat Supreme King Zarc/Yuri.
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>be in the last stretch of the arc
>spend almost an episode on filler duel instead of plot
might as well make Reiji lose for maximum butthurt
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>>149700845
>"serious", "realistic" characters with "real" problems.

What a load of bullshit. Neither of them are "realistic" or have problems I would consider to be "real." Yuya kind of did back in Standard but the show has clearly made its point that doesn't matter anymore. It's also kind of ironic because if you consider yourself an "active" fan and actually think about YGO from an analytical point of view you'll realize just how bad they are.
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>>149695835
>the only time he lost was because of Yugi being too much of a pussy
He was the real winner!
Seriously, though, you totally missed the point of that entire scene.
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>>149696559
>then comes BC and he's all about friendship.
So you didn't read it. The Trial of the Mind was ENTIRELY this.
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>>149696559
>fourth season
What? There aren't seasons. But you're talking about Doma I think, and I disagree. What he does there outright contradicts earlier characterization in the same show. He was supposed to have overcome this very flaw during Duelist Kingdom, and they undo it completely.
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>>149658431
>tfw you'll never get see shark in arc v
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>>149695932
>Atem cheating
If you're talking about Duelist Kingdom, then you're reading WAY too much into it or are a secondary.
>Yuma outright breaking the rules and changing cards
He changed a RUM to another RUM with a nearly identical effect, the bastard!
>Judai being the reincarnation of an evil god king who main power is that he must always win at all cost
That's just factually incorrect. That isn't what Supreme King was, and he never had any supernatural powers.
Getting cards from the future, having supernatural card creation, and driving a motorcycle on fucking air (in both the anime and manga) could be considered that, though.
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>>149659448
who the fuck though intrusion penalty was a good idea
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>>149695992
I didn't have a problem with Kattobingu. It's a silly word, but I could understand it being a family motto of sorts, and that it represented something more than having a direct meaning. Yuma was also the only character who believably pulled off the "You're just the kind of guy who attracts everyone to him" thing, since Judai is just good at card games and Yusei is a fucking brick wall that made me laugh when Aki said the exact line. Yugi and Yuya didn't do that, though.
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>>149672279
>who fought his way out of rags to riches
He escaped from prison and was drafted for a tournament. He didn't actually fight for anything, which is why it's so insulting that Satellite would be so easily integrated with the City.
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>>149672829
LK seems to actually know his Yu-Gi-Oh! (explicitly pointing out that the manga was better, "season 0" isn't a proper name, filler arcs sucked, actually acknowledging R), but certainly fans of his show aren't.
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>>149685755
>Magician of Black Chaos
>Black Paladin
>Book of Secret Arts
>Magic Cylinder

>stage tricks
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>>149697750
Your explanation is bullshit. Shining Draw and Barian's Chaos Draw explicitly created cards that did not exist in their respective decks.
>Dennis accidentally Destiny Drew Poly
hahahaha what the fuck
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>>149698625
>Rua Destiny Drew a blank card
It's an extra deck monster.
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>>149700774
I agree. That is one point in time for her character.
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