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The smuggest.
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>>149449635
Alright I'll post sluts then
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>>149449760
18 is the only slut.
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>>149449617
Literally cumming right now.
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>>149449617
Glad to see him back.
Hope they don't use bullshit copouts to get rid of him again
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>>149449617
Is there a more alpha character in all of fiction?
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>>149449792
untrue
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>>149449617
inb4 400 new threads with that exact same pic
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BRAH SUPER THREAD?
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>>149449911
What a faggot. That was a clear signal that she wanted to fuck.
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>>149449617
Is it necessary for him to automatically transform to blue? I mean he was crazy powerful when he was at ssj alone
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I can't decide if I like the manga or the anime version more. She cries in the anime version, but in the manga version she gets her teeth knocked out.

I need a version with both.
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>>149449897
Yamcha
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>>149449959
Trunks has no need for u
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>>149449984
I think he learned his lesson about pointlessly fucking around.
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>>149449984
Yes? He wouldn't be God-level without SSB.
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>>149449897

Toranksu
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>front gohan is only the third or fourth strongest in the picture

howling
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>>149449999
I'd say manga is better.
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>>149449999
i like the anime one because of the noises
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>>149450068
>Toei literally thought Gohan was the new MC for months
Lel
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The Vegeta and Trunks combined Garlic Gun was the best part of the show
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>>149450068

> Tori was forced to write out Gohan as the MC due to some Gokufags complaining.

feels bad man.
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>>149450023
In his dreams.
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who /missedstream/ here?
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>>149449617

So I have to say... I'm a little surprised that Vegetto arrived already. I just sorta thought they were saving him for another future villain.

On one hand, I can't help but like it, but I objectively think that Toei has blown their load too soon.
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>>149450046
Vegito as a character is God like. At ssj he was toying with buu at his strongest form. Can you imagine him at ssj3? I get he is a little serious this time but it feels like an overkill for a character like him at ssb
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>>149450195

the stakes are too high,
if it's not Vegito it's the Zeno button,
SSB isn't doing shit anymore.
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How many times has Trunk's sword been broken, now? 6? 7?
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>>149450296

that's why he stopped using it back in Z,
it was kinda dumb they brought it back
(at least this time it has been used more cleverly)
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>>149450167
he is goku son fucking gokufags ruining evertything we all love goku but our boy needs to step up you niggers
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Zamasu and Vegetto are definitely stronger than Beerus
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>>149450416
You'd think so, but Beerus' power has been retconned a million times already.
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>>149450185
horriblesubs is already out
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Have we gotten word from GOWASU anon yet? Or did he kill himself while fondling a picture of gogeta already?
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>>149450466
>480p
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>>149450466
Oh fucking great, I just finished watching the SD version 60 seconds ago
>>149450487
I usually use 480p anyway because I have a shitty laptop so I have no problem with this.
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>>149450416
Gowasu and co. were basically saying they've never seen such power even for a god, so it's definitely possible that they are stronger.
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>>149450549
But have they ever seen Beerys's full power?
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>>149449617

That's one anti-climactic preview.
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>>149450549
Gowasu thought that SSJ2 Goku was Beerus level though, bakc when he sparred with Zamasu, so he definitely hasn't seen Beerus' full power.
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>>149450487
720p is out
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leave the next thread to me
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>>149450466
I feel so bad for Batman and Dragon Team. They put all that effort into providing fans with English subs and they're all going to jump ship.
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720p is out
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>>149450806
They did a good job for more than a year. That's nice enough.
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>>149449617
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoJhBCysp_I this fit the next episode so much for me .
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>>149450931
eh I used nnedi3 upscaling anyway
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>>149450748
Why? we have like 4 already.
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Why didn't they end the episode with Vegito fusing so we all marked the fuck out?

Now that they spoiled it, it'll be underwhelming
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>>149451124
the preview guy messed up

it was suppose to be a secret reveal for next week
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>>149451124
Dragon ball has been like that since foreer. They always spoil everything.
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What's the song that plays when Zamasu starts wrecking the world and we see the Android 8 and Turtle appearances?
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>>149450029
What are you talking about, anon?

Vegetto was purposely fucking around with Buu so he could get absorbed.
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>>149449984
He automatically turned Super Saiyan against Buu in the manga.
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>>149450806
You don't have to feel bad, they stopped subbing Super because they wanted to.
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>>149450806
Yeah I feel so bad for them now they dont have to do work for free.
Those poor bastards.
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>>149450195
>Enemy pair fuses using potara
>tons of allusions to fusion throughout the arc
>This arc would have been satisfying with anything but the heroes doing a fusion of their own after all the fusion teasing

No, you're just a contrarian jackass.
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>Z
>green big bad is attacked by father son kamehameha

>Super
>green big bad is attacked by father son galick gun

POTTERY
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Do you guys think Trunks' sword will have a role in the next episode? There's a scene just to show the girl finding it, so I guess it will be somehow important next episode.

My guess is that Trunks uses it to destroy Zamasu's halo. Either that or, as a really big callback, it's Yajirobe that does it.
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>>149451254
One thing I noticed is there are people in the same shot as Android 8, in the back.
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>>149449617
>Gohanfag is on suicide watch.
BTFO

Where is that lewd Pan cosplay he promised us. I've come to collect on that free buttsex too.
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>>149452275
Anon, this is anime, it's not hard to figure out. The little girl is gonna take the sword and charge at Zamasu. Trunks will go full blue in order to protect her.
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>>149449999
I can't fap to it without the screams.
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>>149452618
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>>149450806
Dragon Team quit. They're one of those "If it has official subs, we're done" groups.
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>>149449999

the part where she is beat down is smoothly animated
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>>149452707
I wish they would translate the manga, so we don't have to read the Niggastream shitty translation.
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>>149452635
Its not edgy, its hot as fuck.

You are 7/10 on the fag scale right now.
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>>149452764
He's a homosexual, just ignore him. We shouldn't allow fags to post openly. Back in the old days we used to bully them on 4chan.
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>>149450748
Brah Super thread then.
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>>149450748
I don't buy that Vegeta would let his daughter be such a slut. He'd have her locked in her bedroom at all times and murder anyone that tries to get near her
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>>149453063
grumpy tough dads always have a weak spot for their daughters, anon. It's universally known. So yes, I buy it.
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>>149452764
>>149452843
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>>149450051
>wizard
>alpha
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>>149450166
Bulma is the 3rd pervert in Dragon Ball behind Master Roshi and Oolong.
>When we first saw Bulma she tried to offer sexual favors to Goku in exchange for his Dragon Ball. Goku was like 8 years old at the time.
>Then Master Roshi ask to see her panties and she agrees, little did she know, her panties were off, so she ended up showing her teenage vagina to everyone.
>While Pilaf blows a kiss at her, she gets surprised that he didn't do more lewd things to her, so she starts mentioning all of the sexual things she thought Pilaf could do to her, causing Mai and Pilaf to blush.
>She starts dating Yamcha. Vegeta's actions results in Yamcha's death and how does she pay Vegeta back for killing her boyfriend? She breaks up with Yamcha and ends up sleeping with Vegeta a few months later.

And now we see her trying to seduce Zamasu. She is a slut. Mai is probably the 4th biggest perv for trying to fuck Trunks who was like 2 years old when she was 40.
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>>149450120
They did make a pretty good opening about it though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSOjj8Q_9b4
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>>149453394
It was actually pretty smart of him to wait until he reached wizard status. That's the reason he is so strong right now.
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>>149449617
Who's more smug?
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>>149453500
I was just about to say how shitty that design was. He looks like something you'd see from Yugioh. Super is Toei fan fiction. Lie to me and tell me Toriyama came up with this shit. I fucking dare you. I will dox you, come to your house, and fuck you AND your sister. This show is one giant filler season. Toei is making a cheap buck from this shitload of fuck. They only had Toriyama sign off on it so you fucktards could call it canon. You aren't a real fan of DBZ if you like Super. You guys didn't watch DBZ when it aired on Toonami back in the mid 90s. You fucks weren't even born back then. You have to be 18+ years old to browse this website. We need to report the post of all people who like this show because chances are they are under-aged and they discovered DBZ from Kai.
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>>149453729
We'll see next week in the smug-off
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Reminder that mai shot to the potara is what's making zamasu going purple
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>>149453761
All the DBS main chars were drawn by Toriyama.
But keep crying anyway.
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>>149451882
That gave me all sorts of boners. That, and the part where she was being sucked up.
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>>149453786
But she shot the left potara, not the right one.
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>>149449617
I'm guessing he would win in straight up fight but immortality is fucking things up.
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>>149453535
Super Saiyan Quinacridone Magenta?
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>>149453802
See
>>149453500
He doesn't look like a single character that Toriyama has created. His design screams of fan fiction.

Dear Kai secondary fans, please fuck off.
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>>149453202
God damn they managed to spoil a hell of a lot in less than 30 seconds.

I guess it's not as bad as revealing Zamack in the preview and then having him only show up in the very last minute of the episode.
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>>149453802
So were the GT ones
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>>149449999
spopovich pls go
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>>149453881
I've seen it. But just because you don't like it doesn't mean Toriyama didn't draw it.
As far as we know Toriyama draws every major character in DBS, and there is no reason to believe it's different in this case other then you not liking it.
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I was hoping Bulma would capsule a powered armour fighting machine to battle Zamsu
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>>149453202
That animation is really good & the fight seems pretty brutal

Shame the rest of Super wasn't like this
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>>149453881
they are trying to emphasize an emotion. Zamasu does not look out of place therefore this Zamasu either
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>>149453202

What teh fuck is Zamasu turning into?
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>>149454121
Two-face
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>>149453786
No, it's literally because he's only HALF immortal. Immortality apparently doesn't transfer well to fused beings and while he can try to regenerate his right (black) half, it just becomes his mess of melting flesh.
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>>149454011
She'd be Iron Man if it even lasted a second.
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>>149453202
They thought it was a good idea to have Zamasu turn into a purple sludge monster?
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So how does SSJG Vegito compare to SSJ4 Gogeta. Yeah I know, GT isn't canon, but let's pretend like it's a canon alternate universe for a second.
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>>149449617
I just realized the writers are walking a fine line with these power levels
>zamasu must be stronger than goku and vegeta
>but cannot appear stronger than beerus
>let's have goku and vegeta actually do damage to him while still looking inferior to zamasu power
>next episode will have vegito on equal footing with zamasu
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Father-Son Galick Gun
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>>149453202

so im guessing vegito vaporizes half of zamasu and he looks like that sludge thing because he's only 'half' immortal
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>>149454186
If she kept up a constant attack Zamasu would let it continue to play with his immortality

Bulma could easily make something stronger than an Android so she'd have planet destroying power easy
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>>149454273

I figured they would do something like that, making his immortality nullified by the fusion.
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>>149454259
Cute.
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>>149454259
>Trunks does a whole Gurren Langan heroic moment
>Uses Vegeta's old technique back when he was still an asshole trying to destroy shit

This ironically and hilariously underwhelms the scene.
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>>149454241
Also since Dragonball has just gotten a department specifically for it, that means the show isn't going away anytime soon.

The next few arcs they will need villains that can top Black and Zamasu whilst still taking into account Beerus and Zeno.
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>>149454370
Father-son final flash?
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>>149453948
>YFW we ill never have a QT tomboy fighter like videl ever again
oh well time to fap
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>>149454403
Better yet, Father-Son Big Bang Final Flash
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>>149454395

Meh, at the end of the day Beerus apparently has a cosmic delete button at his disposal. Kind of a leg up on most everyone short of Zeno, the manlet administrator who'll just throw a hissy and reformat if anyone annoys him.
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>>149454403
pls no
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>>149454514

Cosmic delete button? In other words, being able to destroy the universe in a single blow?
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>>149454514

Clarification: Beerus said he can "Neutralize any energy." I'm guessing that includes life energy. AKA Cosmic delete button. Kinetic force? Neutralize. Chi? Yeah, nope neutralized. Probably how he destroyed PRECISELY half a planet.

He just likes to fight for shits and giggles near as I can tell, but whenever he gets pushed he'll just flat out delete whatever is annoying him. Like he did in battle of the gods when Goku actually almost hit him with a forserious blast and Beerus explained his neutralization ability in the first place.

Basically, Beerus can cheat.
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>>149453420
An unashamed slut that shows off her pussy to everyone even as a teenager. We need more girls like her.
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>>149454470
>SSblue Gohan never
it hurts

im sure gotenks will reach SSblue before him
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>mfw I just noticed that gohan doesn't go super in the intro, but goten does
this character assassination is killing my sides
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Lol it takes vegeta and trunks to knock back zamasu attack.
Goku manages to do it alone hahahahaha
Goku> vegeta+trunks
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>>149454223

Kid Goku in base form was said to be more powerful than SSJ3 Goku during Buu saga. Super's power levels don't even begin to touch GT's.
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>>149454698
>Wanting Gohan to be relevant in the show
>Wanting him to have shitty god form
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>>149454223
if it's SSB vs. SS4, Vegito would wipe the fucking floor with Gogeta without a doubt. SS4 really isn't shit compared to God tier powers.
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>>149454709

They always do this with Goku. Some asspull makes him stronger than Vegeta, even though Vegeta trained like a fucking madman. It's bullshit but what are you gonna do?
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>>149454778

So SSJ4 Gogeta wins?
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>>149454703
>not knowing what Mystic Gohan is.
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>>149454703
The Gohan they show in the intro at that part is pre RoF arc that can still go Mystic probably
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You thought we would be getting the non canon inferior version gogeta?
vegeta doesnt even know the fusion dance.
Gogetafags btfo
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Anyone have the pic with Zamasu and Black are talking to each other about Goku,and Vegeta not even listening to what Zamasu is saying.
>Truly God like.
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>>149449999
So how did this bitch grow back her teeth again?

Must be some futuristic capsule corp tech
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>>149454850

Gogeta annihilates, nothing even begins to touch him save for Zeno.
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>>149454858
>>149454866
no way in hell that's mystic form. don't bullshit me.
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>>149454876
Senzu beans.
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>>149454709
>hehe I'm stronger than you and Trunks together, Vegeta, looks like you gotta train more
>yeah that's cool Kakarot, why don't you get Gohan and we'll try a 2v2
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>>149454787
Chichi pls go
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>>149454876
she's been given a senzu bean
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>>149449999
What was the point of that?
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>>149454703
He's presumably going ultimate, which is stronger than super saiyan.
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>>149454918
>>149454898
Howd she swallow it without any teeth?
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>>149454930
she still had her molars
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>>149454867
Let me bet beerus is still stronger then this motherfucker also how will they stop zamasu? The way the girl safed trunks sword is giving me those AF vibes.
Also the father-son attack was also done in AF... toyotaro cheeky motherfucker.
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>>149454930
She just did.
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>>149454930
The same way you swallow dicks without teeth
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>>149454873
here you go
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>>149454778
>Kid Goku in base form was said to be more powerful than SSJ3 Goku during Buu saga

Meanwhile, base Goku in Super absorbed SSG's strength which makes SS3 look like a joke in comparison.

Base Goku in Super >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Base Goku in GT, and that's not even counting the fact that the God multipliers literally shit all over 4's.
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why don't they just cut zamasu's hand so he loses the time ring
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>>149454867
2chan was right. we did got vegito so after that episode was ... zeno defeating zamasu.
They gonna job arent they.
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>>149450200
And each Zamasu was equal to Goku and Vegeta at their strongest.

Plus Zamasu is transformed.

It'd be like Trunks and Goten potaraing in ss state. And then Gohan and Piccolo fusing and Goccolo not transforming and thinking he's equal.
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>>149455080
Everyone knew vegitto was going to come. Especially after the shit with the recording booth
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>>149455080
I'm not sure. People were definitely expecting it with two Kais, Zamasu fusing only solidified it.
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>>149450806
They were slow as fuck for absolutely no reason. Why can't they translate a 20 minute episode within even a day if they speak the fucking language well?
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>>149454850
I'd like to bring multiple things against this to the table, but I won't because:

A). Toriyama and Toei probably want to avoid fucking up the continuity entirely so they'll avoid making SSJ4 obsolete at every way possible.

B). Super Saiyan God is cancer.

C). In the end it's just gonig to devolve into immature and crass "Nu uh my character is THE STRONGEST and he will DESTROOYY your character nananananana!!" banter which really makes me question my life choices and reasons for being on this site at my age.
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>>149454988

Well, GT Kid Goku is more powerful than Buu saga SSJ3. Super Saiyan is 50 times more powerful than base, SSJ2 is twice as powerful as SSJ1, SSJ3 is four times as powerful as SSJ2, and SSJ4 is 4 times as powerful as SSJ4. That would make SSJ4 Goku 4000 times as powerful as SSJ3 Goku from Buu saga.

What's the multiplier of super saiyan god? How much more powerful is it than SSJ3?
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>>149454959
This shit screams fanfic beyond believe.
I bet toyitaro did more of the plot for this arc then toryiama himself.
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>>149455173

Sorry, should have said SSJ4 is 10 times as powerful as SSJ3.
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>>149455080
It wouldn't be appropiate if Zamasu didn't get defeated by a ningen
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>>149455150
this. I've translated episodes of south park from english to chinese for overseas friends in less than 6 hours, which is a hell of a lot more difficult than japanese to english.
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>>149454703
Gohan doesn't need Super Saiyan, he gets a massive power boost and ki control from Mystic form unleashed. Remember what Toei doesn't -- Gohan was the strongest character in DBZ at the end.

Of course Toei didn't give a fuck and made him lose all his muscle mass and revert to Super Pussiyan because FUCK YOU, so eh.
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>>149454985
Thank you,anon!
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>>149455150

Maybe they don't speak it as well as we thought?
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>>149450023
Toriyama said the poor guy is still afraid of women to this day. After getting cucked by his murderer, I can't imagine how beta he feels. lol
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>>149454867
I didn't expect Veggeto to come back, neither Gogeta. Fusions are still way to OP in DB even without God tier transformations.

I'm still a Gogetafag tho
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>>149455213
But that would be anti climatic as fuck and probably the worst way to end this arc. Killing off the strongest villain with the plot button is a bad mistake.
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>>149455227
>Remember what Toei doesn't -- Gohan was the strongest character in DBZ at the end

You mean despite Gohan being reduced to a pansy bitch nerd in EoZ?

Don't blame Toei, blame Toriyama, faggot.
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>>149455243
jesus christ thank you
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>>149455227
> toei
It was toryiama who made gohan into a pussy ass bitch
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>Nobody in the preview except Vegetto and Zamasu
>Vegetto looking serious

I wonder if something really bad is gonna happen early in the episode, for an extra push to make them fuse.
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>>149455173

Actually, I should have started out by saying that adult GT Goku is 400 times as powerful as SSJ3 Goku from Buu saga. Fuck I'm tired tonight.
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>>149455272
Zamasu is immortal. How else do you defeat him without some outside means? I guess they could use the Dragon Balls or the Mafuba again. Winning a straight up fight just isn't going to happen though.
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>>149455227
>"strongest character"
>is still a bitch
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>>149455325

Well they're melting him down as Vegito, somehow.
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>>149455180
Toriyama doesn't do anything, he doesn't give a fuck about Dragon Ball and he hates it and us.

He's only doing this probably because Kai and BoG were very successful and he's getting mad dosh from it. He doesn't care and he's a senile old hack.

Toyotaro steals ideas from popular fanfiction and yeah, this is just a high-production fanfiction like GT.

If you ever told me the plot lines and transformations in Super without Super actually existing, i'd tell you to take that terrible fanfiction to deviant-art and comission some brony to draw your rainbow Saiyans.
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>my boy Vegito is back
>he's going blue right off the bat no bullshit mode
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>>149455325
I rather have them use the mafuba then push the button because if they gonna rely on the stupid button they could have done it the emtire time and avoid most of this mess.
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>>149455173
>What's the multiplier of super saiyan god? How much more powerful is it than SSJ3?

Goku literally said it was an entirely new realm of power that he never imagined he would be capable of ever reaching in his lifetime, so it's easily magnitudes upon magnitudes stronger than SS3.

So GT Goku being stronger in base than Buu saga SS3 is actually nothing impressive at all.
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>>149455325
Only other way I can see Zamasu dying is destroying the ring.
Zeno button is a safe bet.
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>all this faggots saying that fused zamasu is half inmortal

Vegito was half dead then? Vegeta was dead when they fused.
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So what the fuck isn't Supreme Kai stepping in? He could take out Cell with ease for fucks sake. Sure he's not on the level of Zamasu or Black, but he could fill in the role Trunks was taking seeing how SSJ2 could take on Zamasu for a good bit.
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>>149455422
Gogeta had a halo
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>>149455173
And base form Vegeta is way stronger than ss3 Gotenks with two years of training after Buu.

And Blue is a bigger multiplier than SS3 in addition to Goku being able to add God power to those forms.
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>>149455358
The plot is too similar to af which toyotaro got famous for.
If vegito seals zamasu in trunks sword that will be the ultimate proof of this src being nothing but fanfic.
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>>149455437
>He could take out Frieza with ease
ftfy
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>>149455443
Weren't they both dead in Fusion?
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>>149455161

Yeah, in the end I guess you're right. There's no point in power level debates, especially with a series so vague about it as DBZ.

Honestly, I miss when power levels were numbered, it cut through all this extra bullshit.
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Reminder that Vegito will get destroyed and GOHAN will defeat Zamaku
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WHERE WERE YOU WHEN VEGITO MADE SUPER GREAT AGAIN???

WHERE WERE YOU WHEN GOGETANIGGERS WERE BLOWN THE FUCK OUT???
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>>149453761
im 30 and did in fact watch it in the 90's and I love super and I love the Goku black arc

But...not feeling the purple goo design

Shame because I loved rose and I loved zamasu
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>>149455462

Yes, they were. They were fighting in hell
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>>149455437
Trunks was significantly stronger than Supreme Kai and in the manga adaption he even trained Trunks.

I wished they followed the manga format, so he could've got SSJ3 instead of this SSJ2-god ki BS.
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>>149454179
So Vegito literally made Blackasu half-dead on his first shot?
pfft
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>>149455437
Trunks is probably hundreds of times more powerful than Cell at this stage
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>>149455459
>If vegito seals zamasu in trunks sword

Oh shit.

OH SHIT.

THE KID. THE FUCKING KID.

Either that or the Zeno button, there's no way this arc ends well is there?
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>>149455373
You should know by now Goku and Vegeta would rather beat the bad guy with their own strength than rely on a fusion or god button.
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>>149450068
>what could've been
would gohan as the MC have killed the franchise?
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>>149455474
Why the fuck does he have bruises?
Why the fuck is he resorting to his strongest attack? Why isnt he smug?
Is zamasu actually a good villain who doesnt get trashed.
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>>149455461
It's literally stated within the episode when they first meet Supreme Kai is that he could defeat Cell.
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>>149449617
My body has never been readier.
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Heh, and some of you ningens kept barking about retarded fusions like Vegeta-Trunks.

It's official - Vegito just made the Black arc a 10.
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>>149455499
>so he could've got SSJ3 instead of this SSJ2-god ki BS.

I doubt we're seeing SSJ3 even in the manga.
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>>149455505
Who gives a fuck what they want? They are retards, I want Goku and his attitude to hit a brick wall for once that he can't solve by beating the shit out of everything until it pops out of existence.

How's that for character development, Hackiyama-sensei.
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Melting Zamasu reminds me of Orgodemir from Dragon Quest VII.
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>>149455518
Zamasu is only a step behind Vegito in power. Or did you expect 2 people on par with Goku and Vegeta to create a really weak fusion?
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>>149455505
We are getting fusion now.
And by the looks of it even vegito is not having the easiest of time which is ridiculous since zamasu primary source of power is black.
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>>149455540
depends if vegito jobs or not.
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>>149455499
>>149455502

Fair enough.

You really can't tell the power gap between SSJ2 and SSJ3 since the only Saiyan-based form between it is the increased SSJ2 when Babidi majinized Vegeta.
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>>149449760
>>149449792
>>149449911
False
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>>149454778
And yet in super ssj3 was shown to be so weak compared to beerus that he could just slap him around

And then Sayian God form made it a good fight

So it's safe to say there's also a huge huge difference in power levels there too
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>>149455459
>If vegito seals zamasu in trunks sword

That's actually rather genius really. It harkens back to how Old Kai was sealed away. Hell, what if it's a variant of the Mafuba? Don't underestimate the power of Memes, someone post the picture of Beerus sealing Old Kai.

So you have Vegito beat the shit out of Zamasu, but Trunks gets the final blow with the Mafuba into his sword.
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>>149455562
Super buu alone was stronger then vegeta and goku combined. Gohan is stronger then super buu.
Buuhan was nothing but playfodder for vegito. also immortal zamasu isnt strong just immortal.
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>>149455587
The guidebooks state that the difference is that a SSJ2 is 1/4 of a SSJ3
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>>149455437

Nah, he's weaker than Zamasu, who is a fighting prodigy, plus immortal.
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>>149455621
People will shitpost but thats a perfectly fine end to the arc thematically. Its his arc he should be the one to finish zamasu off
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>>149453436
this was the peak of dragonball
>ywn see vegeta mentor gohan in the ways of the saiyan
>ywn see gohan mentor trunks and goten in order to save the world from impending doom
>ywn see master roshi teach gohan all the obscure shit he learned and never taught anyone because reasons
>ywn see gohan and dende bonding over keeping the world safe
>ywn see gohan piccolo and vegeta saving the world together while goku looks on from the afterlife satisfied

Feels bad man
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>>149455621
Yeah but the problem I have with this its fucking AF tier. That shit was literally done in af. NO thanks for fanfic bs rather have zeno come and save the day.
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>>149455464
SO do I, the fact they avoid it so much is only a possible result of two scenarios:

1). The author wants the readers/watchers to interpret certain elements on their own and fit it into something they agree on, usually with open-ended endings. This is usually not the case in DBZ where one side always wins.

2). It allows bad writers to avoid pushing themselves into a corner they aren't creative enough to snuggle out from as they can easily retcon stuff.
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>>149455437
He is busy.
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As much as I am hyped for this. I don't think Zamasu can top this Vegetto battle.
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Vegeta really should have developed this move a bit more.

Can you imagine how fucking useful it would be if he could tighten the neck one a ton on people?

Or if he worked together with Krillin so it worked like Destructo Disc?
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>>149455533
no, it's stated he's stronger than Frieza
he shit himself over Dabura who is about the same power of Cell
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>>149455676
>Or if he worked together with Krillin so it worked like Destructo Disc?
too OP pls nerf
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>>149453202
What does Vegito say before he makes the Final Kamehameha?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PpsPaBQS4g
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>>149453761
I know this is a dragon ball thread but damn anon, calm your autism.
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>Watch Dragon Ball Super
>see this thread
>feel the urge to watch the Gogeta movie again
>opens up tab
>see this

I-Is this... the power of the gods /a/?
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>>149455437

Isn't Supreme Kai around first form Cell's power? I think Zamasu is around Buu saga SSJ3 too. If that's the case, there's no way in hell he'd stand a chance against Zamasu.
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>>149455676
Vegeta's super saiyan techniques were shown in great detail in the Cell saga, but they never really bothered to create any SSJ2 signature moves.
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>>149455587
The power gap is 4 times.

Ie SS3 is 8 times as powerful as SS1. SS2 is 2.

Also trunks is accessing Godly ki and mixing his SS2 form with his bulky form. His bulky form was somewhere like 1.5 times SS1 or something.

So basically Trunks is mixing 3 transformations together. And SS3 while it would make it more powerful, would be useless since Trunks is using everything in every attack and already using his stamina at a huge rate. He'd get like one punch off if he was fighting the same way and just go in a coma from energy drainage
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>>149455650
The Dragon Ball Z that could be, my man. Gohan taking on new adventures with Goten and Trunks and fighting new foes while growing up himself and learning about himself, coming to understand his father better.

Vegeta and Piccolo as mentors along with many of the old cast as supporting characters who get resolutions.

A young-fresh cast like mature dende, Videl, her friends and other powerful new allies.

What a waste.
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>>149455716
>Kissanime

Degenerate.
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Super Zamasu may have infinite power, but each time Vegito fucks him up, half his body becomes more and more useless.

So who is stronger

An exhausted Vegito or a Super Zamasu with a half dead body?
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>>149455754
Zamasu because he's still immortal.
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>>149455754
Super Zamasu, because even if Zamasu turns completely into goop he can never become exhausted or die.
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>>149455750
Not the same anon, but what's so bad about it?
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>>149455694
He could apparently kill Freiza with one punch.
Only a few people knew about Frieza's transformations, though. Kaioshin was most definitely talking about base Frieza, and that wasn't a big deal by that time.
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why does vegito have the same outfit as before
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>>149455626
Except the potara is a much better fusion than simply adding power together.

You can't compare Super Buu's fusions to 2 seperate fusions of the potara. Super Buu was simply absorbing power. The potara seems to multiply power.
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>>149455662

I also liked them because they made gaps between characters seem that much more significant. Frieza at 120,000,000 VS Ginyu at like 100,000 just sounds so much better than "Frieza is much more powerful than Ginyu".
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>>149455783
Nothing, anon just wants to feel edgy and contrarian.

Just watch, he's gonna recommend some obscure german site or torrents.
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Should I start with DB Kai if I want to watch Super?
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>>149455754

Well from the looks of the previews, it seems like Vegito is the more powerful of the two. But then, they can be a little misleading at times.
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>>149455742
Instead we got a fanfic made by Toriyama
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I may have missed something and if I did sorry, but why did Zamasu need the REALLY GOOD DRAGON BALLS to wish for invincibility?

Couldn't he have just used Namek's or Earth's?

Garlic Jr. was immortal.

Is it a god thing?
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>>149455794
Because Toei.
Vegeta shouldn't be wearing armour at this point anyway. At his level, any attack that can hurt him will destroy the armour.
Besides, slowly changing his clothes would show how he's getting more comfortable living on Earth.
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>>149455676
Anyone who practices Brazilian Jujitsu realizes that that move is weak. A 12 year old girl can apply enough force to choke an adult male unconscious if given enough freedom. With that said, it doesn't take much pressure to chock someone out. If that thing is wrapped around Goku's neck and he's not losing consciousness then it must be light as fuck. It probably feels like one of those neck pillows. Picture related. Vegeta was probably jobbing once again so he didn't apply a lot of force to it.
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>>149455853

Because the wish can't be undone by lower dragon balls. He wanted to make sure no one would reverse his immortality.
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>>149455754
who?
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>>149455754
I think this is what the half body thing is that is happening to zamasu. Half of his body isn't immortal and is thus getting fucked up by vegito but the time ring is doing something as well.
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As much as I'd hate the Zen-chan end, it's the only logical path.
Zamasu can change into a form that'll make Mafuba useless.
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>>149455880
>Put the ring on Black Goku
>Starts choking him
>He starts freaking out trying to get it off
>Blast him into oblivion

Strength isn't the only thing you should be looking for in a move. Utility matters.
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>>149449617
Shouldn't his outfit look different because Vegeta's costume is no longer a blue bodysuit?
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>>149455940
They don't even have the seal.
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>>149455801
Yup. It gives a sense of scale.

SSG feels like it could be anything from being 10x stronger than SSJ3, to so insanely stronger you can never hope to achieve this level without some magic ritual.

Then they asspull it by Vegeta training to get it.

Then they asspull it again by making it seem like three clashes of fists can erase the universe but supposedly a father-son Galick Gun with Super Saiyan God Ki against a Doom Ball of death from an immortal god creates a mediocre explosion.

When the space hitler from Z was able to destroy a planet's core with a similar death ball.

In general it seems since SSB everything god depowered severely. Sure you can say they are limiting their output due to the perfect Ki control but if it doesn't hurt the earth it shouldn't hurt the enemy, plus Zamasu wants to eradicate mortals so why does he care anyways.

I remember when a Final Flash tore through the atmosphere, not just made a small flashy explosion on a big robot.
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Is there a character that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Zamasu? Let alone defeat him.
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>>149456006
Bulma touched him.
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>>149455966
They can just pick it up from the Kame House actually.
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>>149455963
his armor was destroyed after Super Zamasu hit him to protect Trunks, he probably removed it after getting senzu then taking Kaioshin's potara to fuse
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>>149456006
Grand Priest.
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>>149455887
Do you not remember how the dragonballs work? The other ones couldn't have done jack shit to him without his permission no matter what dragonballs he used.
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>>149453202
So this is going to be one-sided as fuck other than Black Zamasu being immortal, right?

Both Goku and Vegeta are individually far more powerful than Zamasu, and Black is about the same as either one of them. Vegetto should be miles ahead.
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>>149455963
But it is a blue Bodysuit, even if it's torn.

No one even explains clothe magic anyways. I stopped caring when Piccolo did it.
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>>149456006
I believe it's time for a Zamasu one.
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>>149456056
> one sided as fuck
nah vegitto is going ssblue of the bat and even has bruises in the trailer.
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>>149456006
Everyone has been kicking Zamasu's jobbing ass. Zamasu even has saiyan zenkai plot armor is still get whooped. Fuck, I'm disappointing how this is all turning out for Zamasu.
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>>149455783
The site is fucking garbage.

It doesn't have any mirrors, so if the site slows/goes down then all your videos are fucked.

They force you to use an adblocker in order for you to log in and learn to use their shitty token system instead of letting you just simply pay to remove the ads. Note literally no other anime streaming site forces you to turn off adblocker.

The admin team surrounding community is probably the worst part about it. They ban people left and right for no reason. They even went as far to ban Mitrospeed(a community favorite) on Grimgar and Re:Zero disqus commentary because they thought he was "spoiling" by tying in the novel adaption with the episode in order to better explain what was going on.

>>149455814
If I was being edgy, I would've denounced you for using a streaming site in general instead of torrenting it like most /a/ elitists do.
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>>149456064
I always chalked the Piccolo thing up to him having magic.

>>149456077
The trailer also seems to have him on the upper hand nearly the entire time, though.
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>>149456050

Okay, what if Zeno used them?
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>>149455976
Zamasu and Black have been working entirely too long to destroy humanity. It seems like in Z, they needed to continually use the dragon balls because someone ionized a city. But these two gods are having a really rough time with just that one city
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>>149455716

Dat ending theme

also love Gogeta's attack
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>>149456101
Why would Zeno need the dragonballs for anything?
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>>149455976

I was thinking about that earlier, actually. I was wondering why the attacks between Golden Frieza and SSB for example, didn't effect the universe. Hell, even fucking Buuhan was shattering dimensions with his anger. Shit just doesn't add up.
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>>149456080
*Its disappointing
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>>149455815

Sure, if you haven't watched Z.

The movies are also tons of FUN
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>>149456116
Because we couldn't actually have fights if everybody else fucking died in the middle of them
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I hope Vegito does no defuse right after going back.
I really, really want a mini-arc with him as the protagonist. Doesn't even need to have a villain. Show him having a fight with Beerus, driving cars, working on the farm etc.
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>>149456095
>The trailer also seems to have him on the upper hand nearly the entire time, though.

Trailers can be misleading.
The episode could end with Vegito getting beat and powering down.
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I'm glad to see Vegito acting decisively and swiftly in the PV.
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>>149455815
The one you're looking for is subbed DB+ DBZ.
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>>149456006
>>149456080
>Is there a character that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Zamasu?

Yes, he's appearing when next episode.

Except Zamasu seems to have some Demon form too.

And Trunks doing the Mafuba doesn't work it seems, can't wait to see what's gonna happen.

Gotta get that Xenoverse 2 copy too.
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>>149456112

Maybe he would want to wish for him not to be immortal, so he could destroy him. Or maybe he was afraid that someone else with higher authority than him would use them, like that dude who was more powerful than Whis.

Maybe you have an answer for it.
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>>149456155
He can't afford to fuck around this time. The gap in power probably isn't as wide like with Buu.
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>>149456081
> It doesn't have any mirrors, so if the site slows/goes down then all your videos are fucked.

True. It's also one of the only streaming sites that host more obscure animes at 720p/1080p when literally no one else does.

> They force you to use an adblocker
Lrn2Ublock. They can't circumvent it. It's not like the ads are intrusive anyways, just gay ads about russians in your local area, it's not inside the player.

> The admin team surrounding community is probably the worst part about it.

Absolutely. But why do you care? Why would you even want to comment there? Did you see the cancer that is the comment section? A bunch of edgy kids on the internet for their first time, it's like i'm in 2006 again. I want to kill them all , why would you ever want to mingle?
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Since now we know its not going to end with goku time or surprise vegeta.
How do you feel about goku and vegeta jobbing for the 3rd time in a row?
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>>149456159
>DB+

BRAZILIAN DUB NEWFAG
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>>149456095
> I always chalked the Piccolo thing up to him having magic.

And fusion isn't magic?

It's never even really explained what's the difference. Let it go.
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>>149456155
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>>149456080

Well, there's gotta be some way to defeat him. Can't just have Zamasu destroy the world now can we? Wouldn't be Dragon ball if the bad guy won.
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>>149456199
Better than them winning via random power-up.
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Why the fuck is Zamasu so strong? I understand Goku Black because he has that ever-increasing-ki Broly bullshit, but Zamasu?

This is the same guy who could only keep up with SSJ2 Goku. Yeah, he curb-stomps Goku and Vegeta whenever neither of them aren't angry/enraged.
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>>149456150
True, but Zamasu also seems to be FREAKING THE FUCK OUT and having some kind of degrading thing happen to him. That's generally a sign that the villain is in a bad way.

>>149456212
>Let it go
You make it sound like I've been harping, man.
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>>149456199
Make it 4.
Vegito gonna job so hard he wished he had pushed the muffin button sooner.
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>>149456199

I just want them to win as Vegito and kill this faggot once and for all.
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>>149455976
>>149456116

Bardock says it best. "If you put all your trust in numbers, you really are dumber than I thought!"
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>>149456227
That Zamasu is Zamasu from like 20 years in the future, in F.Trunks time-line. Also because training.
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>>149456229
In the next episode goku broke his light wall and thats what causes him to go gaara.
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>>149456006

Beerus and or Whis?
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>>149456227
immortality is plot armor like no other. Doesn't matter how powerful someone is, if you're immortal they'll just get weaker while you remain the same
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>>149456080
*getting whooped

fuck this tiny ningen brain. just kill me daddy.
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>>149456227
He's pretty much utilizing all of Goku's body and his own potential at the same time.
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>>149450167
unsubstantiated yet persistent fan rumour
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>>149454930
>what are molars
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>>149455080
the zeno stuff wasn't from the same leak with goku/vegeta VA's recording together m8
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>>149456227
Goku backhanded him into a building. He isn't that strong, he's probably not that much stronger than Trunks, he's just immortal and willing to abuse it to win.
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>>149456199
Its fucking pathetic lol but I actually like it. Hope the manga doesnt rush things and make them fuse right away after their first jobbing... since you know the manga is supposedly to catch up the anime by the start of the new arc....pls dont be rushed shit toyotaro you had time to put fuxking mario kart so dont end up rushing it you motherfucker.
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>>149456227

It is pretty fucking weird how a guy who would normally get slaughtered by Buu is keeping up with SSBs.

Maybe it's immortality, or as that other guy said, 20 years of training.
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>>149456188
>Absolutely. But why do you care? Why would you even want to comment there? Did you see the cancer that is the comment section? A bunch of edgy kids on the internet for their first time, it's like i'm in 2006 again. I want to kill them all , why would you ever want to mingle?

When I say community, I don't mean actual interaction. A community on a video site is basically a one-way window. You just peak in, see some useful information or hilarious jokes/memes.

The admins ban both, leaving the kids who actually spend time in the day using the comment system as a chat program.
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>>149450167
He gave up because he knew Gohan would be a shitty MC, no one forced him to do that.
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>>149456116
>>149456106

Literally this

>>149456144

Toriyama and Toyotaro wrote asinine shit only underages and spics might call good writing and Toei is stuck having to figure out how to animate characters that on a fundamental level are too strong, too fast, and too omnipotent to animate convincingly without playing with some meta animation 2deep4u crap or simply depowering them.

Seeing as this is still a shounen at core, obviously the latter is chosen.

Just watch, they are gonna get a new power level before the day is done and they'll still make a big deal out of a punch that throws down a building.

Hey, remember when Piccolo in SAIYAN SAGA, blew up the moon?

Remember when Roshi, THE FUCKING NINGEN AT 1000 POWERLEVEL, Threw a Kamehameha that tore through the seabed and destroyed a Navy?

Well you're never getting that again unless plot demands it.
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>>149456323
It's going to be rushed unless it goes weekly or Toei is about to enter filler hell.
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>>149456227
>Yet, he curb-stomps Super Saiyan Bljue Goku and Vegeta whenever neither of them aren't angry/enraged.

Even though you guys pretty much got it, im fixing my own sentence anyways.
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So...Zamasu switched bodies with Goku and then killed him.

What would Goku look like in the afterlife?

What is he and everyone else even doing?

Can someone remind me what happens if you die when you're already dead? I think I remember them saying that you cease to exist in the anime but wasn't that entire thing filler?

If you simply can't be killed again, couldn't King Kai just ask the Namekians to do some wishes for them?

Assuming they can't bring Goku back as Goku because of the body switching, why not Vegeta?

Why not wish for them to have their powers restored like at the end of the Buu Saga?

Why does King Kai always drop THE FUCKING BALL
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>>149456325
Lucky we don't actually have to open the comment section then.

Seriously, there are better places to discuss the latest episodes.

Even /a/.
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>>149456253

I'd say the numbers add up. 10,000 VS 500,000 should rightfully end this way.
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>>149456350
If its comfy family filler I have no problem. I can dig vegeta driving lesson.
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>>149456364
Better question is, what are they going to do once they defeat Zamasu Black? Is Goku going to be forever in Zamasu's body?
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>>149456144
don't look fair for her
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>>149456345
Roshi can blow up the moon son.
Do you even dragonball?
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How strange would it be if Ginyu body swapped with Black?

Actually you know what that's a scenario I'm predicting for Xenoverse 3.
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>>149456323

Mario Kart?
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>>149456218
Yes, I understand that. But I would like his defeat to be more believable with a little less jobbing. Shit like the Father-Son Galick Gun or Goku cracking his Halo shouldn't be possible. Zamasu should be shit stomping everyone until Zeno steps in.

My favorite character isn't getting the respect he deserves. He's an immortal, nearly all powerful God.
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>>149456345
This is why the Buu saga kicked ass. The only place to go after Cell was 100% crazy.
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>>149456436
chulma
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>>149456409

Power Levels are odd.

You can literally gain points by taking off your clothes and some kid using a rush attack has a higher power level than his father.
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>>149456436
>Vegito fucks Bulchit
>Makes a babby
>It comes out all fucked up looking
>With a blue and purple head
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>>149456461
Chapter 17 had like 6 pages of the z fighters playing mario kart on the wii u.
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>>149456469
Bloochi
Chimer
Chiruma
Buruchi
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>>149456414
Which universe is Zamasu even from?

Like, we havve regular Z-verse which is the second world, where Goku and Beerus wiped Zamasu from existence.

We have the first world, F.Trunks', where Immortal Zamasu exists.

Where does Black Goku-Zamasu come from?
A third timeline?
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>>149455794
vegeta's armor broke during this episode, so that's why
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>>149456486
>comes out with 4 heads and melting into purple goo
>becomes a villain 20 years later absorbing all strong people in the universe and becoming more of a deformed monstrosity
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>>149456155
>>149456181
this meme again, he wasn't trying to kill buu. He was trying to get absorbed so he can free the absorbed people. So he did that best by showing his superiority over buu and making fun of him
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>>149456463

I liked Buu saga as well. Ultimate Gohan/Vegito half was probably my favorite.
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>>149455346
waiting for the fusion to defuse is a good strategy
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>>149456436
That Churuma is for cuddles, pic related is for semen farming.
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goddamn i wanna watch this shit now, but i do not have the desire to watch something when im over 50eps behind. im just not neet life to binge that way anymore
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>>149456505
They never explain this.

THEY NEVER EXPLAIN ANYTHING.
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>>149456546
I know that, but it's still nice to see a fusion character trying for once.
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>>149456144
I've said this for a while now.

Vegito just going on some cocky mini-adventure, possibly the tourney too.
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>>149456364
>What would Goku look like in the afterlife?
he would have his own body again

Remember when majin vegeta blew his body to dust against majin buu? Then remember when king yemma gave him his old body in the afterlife? good times
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>>149456469
bulchi
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>>149456546
my question is why didn't buu go all out from the second he learned how much stronger vegito was. If he used the power he tried to use to destroy reality during the fight he'd be more of a threat.
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>>149456574

FUCKING HELL, TOYOTARO.
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>>149456598
Because buuhan aint that strong.
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>>149456505
>>149456574
what? Toei already made a post a couple of weeks ago

Black is from the same timeline as the one we are witnessing, just that it split up after trunks changed history
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>Vegito without Faulconer music

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttgLOk8BajE
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>>149456621
Blame toei not toyotaro.
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>>149456462

Well, think about it this way. Your favorite character went from around SSJ2 to one of the most powerful characters in the series in a very short time. He went from being a fairly average powered Kai to an megalithic being that's manhandling saiyans left and right.

He may be suffering a few hits here and there, but so far he's shitting all over everyone.
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>>149453202
Dat animation tho.

At least now i have a reason to watch the horseshit of a show.

Loos like fusing with Black who wasnt immortal has effected Zamasus perfect immortality, so now i assume hes only half immortal.
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>>149455422
trunks has two senzu beans
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>>149456668
What the fuck is a half immortal?
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Vegetto is getting tired since he always "kills" zamasu, but he regens again.
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>>149456598
Buu knew it was useless to try to do anything that would be planet buster level since Vegito would just stop it or deal the killing blow.
It's weird how absorbing him didn't become an option in his mind until Vegito purposely left him self open.
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>>149456460
Boy just try to imagine trying to fit the Black arc when that game comes.
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how many sleeping pills will it require for me to sleep till next saturday?
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>>149453202
is he gonna be in xenoverse 2?
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>>149456462
>My favorite character

is shit with absolutely no sense to his character.
>is assigned from birth a role to protect and create new life
>is trained by multiple peace loving gods who pamper him and expect him to do great things
>suddenly thinks out of nowhere that life is worthless if people are violent and to protect life he has to destroy it despite there being someone specifically made for that role
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>>149456683
half of your body is immortal and the other half is not. *see purple goo monster in the preview
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>>149456324
>It is pretty fucking weird how a guy who would normally get slaughtered by Buu is keeping up with SSBs.

Is everyone forgetting that Goku's BASE form kept most of his God strength?
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>>149456721
yea, it will be the second DLC pack probably

with zamasu fusion, SSB vegito, etc.
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>>149455976
>In general it seems since SSB everything god depowered severely

Which would have been fine if SSB wasn't stated to be stronger than SSG.

They fucked it all up right then and there.
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>>149456650
.... SO it's not the same timeline, it's a new one. Does that mean the fucker just created 3 more Zamasus?
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>>149456460
GINYU IS BLACK

AND BLACK IS GINYU

AND GINYU WAS GOKU

AND GOKU WAS GINYU

AND BLACK IS GOKU

AND GINYU IS GOKU

AND FATHER IS GINYU SO GOKU IS MY FATHER

HEY
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I hope pixiv are working on SSB Vegito and Blackmasu
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>>149456729
that got retconned in DBS, notice how in revival F he didn't use SSJ since he said his base was stronk

and then notice how he always used SSJ, SSJ2, in DBS (zamasu fight, trunks fight, etc.)
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>>149455902
can vegito in god mode defeats saitama?
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>>149456766
INFINITE ZAMASUS
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>>149456663
BE MY GM
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>>149456781
no, only joke characters can
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>>149456227
where is the madara pasta zamasu version?
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TRAVELLING THROUGH TIME AND SPACE GOOEY GUS HAS RETURNED IN DRAGON BALL SUPER
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>>149449617

They were planning to bring Vegito back ever since they conveniently split up Kibitoshin weren't they?
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>>149456621
>>149456657
>Blaming the guy who gave us the only good Dragon Ball fanon manga and an actual good version of Dragon Ball Super

>Let's not blame the chick who's responsible for the creation of Tarble, Bardock being the first Super Saiyan being canon, and Bulma having more relevant roles
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>>149456767
How passed would Zamasu be if he ever found out a mortal could already do something he has to waste a wish from the Dragonballs to do?
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>>149456820
bet she's half jewish
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>>149456811
Yeah, we just all forgot because fuck that guy/those guys.
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>>149456810
That's literally Zamasu's new form in the newest episode

>>149456820
Dragon Ball SJW
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>>149456820
what happened to her? She was set to takeover but then we got TOYOTARO
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have they given a name to that super saiyan form that future trunks does?
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>>149456729

Wouldn't Zamus be putting up more of a fight against Beerus if he was fighting a Battle of Gods level SSJ? He just got instantly deleted.
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>>149456833
>"M-my way is more refined and godly!"
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>>149456820
Who cares? She's a QT.
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>>149456876
blueper sandy
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>>149456862

I guess they've stopped trying at this point
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>>149456876
yeah. it's called super saiyajin asspull
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>>149456882
beerus was never fighting anyone seriously in the series so far. He's the god of destruction, he technically doesn't even need to fight. He could have just waved his hand and goku along with the earth just disappear.
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>>149455707
Looking back, Final Bout looked pretty damn good for a 96 3D fighter. Shame the game itself was garbage though.

>>149456746
They'll most likely split the tourney saga into the first two DLC packs, then do Zamasu's.
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>>149456780
No, in the Beerus fight they still said that the god power "burned bright within Goku."

In the movie Beerus kept fighting, but in the anime Beerus thought the fight was over when it wore off and it turned out it didnt matter much.
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Wait, wait, wait. Was Vegeta actually being a decent person?
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>>149456989
he has been for a while
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>>149456989
Did you stop reading dragon ball after saiyan arc?
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Thanks Doc
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>>149456820
> Bardock being the first Super Saiyan being canon
Since when? Super Saiyan legend was established long before Bardock, it's a once-in-a-millenium occurence, atleast according to Namek saga, meaning there had to be a millenium to make that claim.
> Bulma having more relevant roles
I don't mind, Bulma is best girl and a hottie who i'd love to lick the feet of, plus I see it more as a callback to Dragon Ball days.
> Tarble
That was a mistake and saying a woman wrote it suddenly makes alot of sense.

Base women should have no business writing shounen.
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I just thought of something really dumb. The potato earrings make an entirely new being by combining two, and then the earrings can be taken off with no adverse effects right? What if you just kept fusing more and more people into the same body?
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>>149456724
Well, all the Dragon Ball characters are pretty shit if you're looking for something deep or meaningful. It's a battle anime/manga not to be taken too seriously.

I like Zamasu for entirely different reasons. I find his megalomania and pompous way of talking to be charming. His motivations also sets him apart from most villains in this series. It made him a little more compelling.

And I just thought Black was just badass. I'm definitely not trying to be highbrow.
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>>149456929

Okay then why did he need Goku's body? If he's so powerful, what's the need? He's apparently this fighting prodigy that's as powerful as a super saiyan god. He can just carry out his plans with a little bit of training.
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>>149457064
that was already established not being possible

but you can fusion dance 2 potaras
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I hope Vegito sticks around a little while after and spar with Beerus when they come back
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>>149457093
You do realize I said Beerus, right? Zamasu needed goku because he's a weak piece of garbage that can't spontaneously improve in combat like saiyans.
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>>149457107
he has too, they have no dragon balls in trunks world

unless they meme new namek, BUT THEN VEGITO WOULD NEED TO MEET KING KAI

then explain himself on why he didn't help trunks, he could meet future gohan in the afterlife as well
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>>149456926
See anons? This guy will enjoy Super and arguably DBZ alot more than us had we watched it in 2016.


He knows shit's dumb and you just enjoy the cool designs and battles.

I can't do that anymore because alot of animes nowdays did DBZ battles much better animated, and the character design in DBS is mostly cancer, but damn am I jelly of you anon.
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>>149457096
>fusion dance vegito with trunks
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>>149456570
This is exactly what I wanted for long time.
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>>149457010
He was still a shit up until Cell killed Trunks.
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For some reason the idea that Beerus's life is connected to Supreme Kai's feels quite tacked on and contrived.
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>>149456989
Yeah, but just so Toei could do Vegetto without the armor.

Only they forgot it's not the same blue spandex he was using in Buu saga anyway.
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>>149457149
The button is probably going to be pressed and that faggot Zeno will unfuse them, I can already tell. Hopefully it's after Vegito gets some Beerus.

Or better yet, Zeno finds him even more interesting and allows him to stay until the end of the tournament.
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>>149449617
>that quality
here's a better one faggot
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>>149457209
wouldn't vegito completely destroy most fighters since he's rapidly approaching beerus' level?
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>preview for next ep comes on
>vegito out of nowhere
>zamasu is purple
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>>149457209
Or they could just use the Time Ring like Zamasu did.
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>>149457229
im 13 minutes into ep65.. bout fucking time.
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>>149457156
That would be sub-optimal. Fusion dance requires both users at perfect ki balance.

Goku had to lower his power to create Gogeta, otherwise they would keep fucking up and create Fattita.

To lower Vegito to Trunks' power means to lose any and all benefit Vegito gave them.

Much better to have Vegeta and Goku which are nearly equal, fuse, then use potara.

The question is, what happens to Vegitenks once fusion time expires?

The answer?

Don't go there. It's just a dumb shounen.
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daily reminder that kai is objectively the best version of dbz and one of the greatest things to happen to the series

want a watchable show without the fucking horrid padding and filler without a shit 90's era dub that only becomes half decent in the last arc of the show? kai is for you
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>>149457246
they turn into blue and orange goo
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>>149457246
>perfect ki balance
Perfect time for Trunks to go SSB
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>>149457246
>Vegitenks

Gogetenks, I mean.
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>>149457044
>Super Saiyan legend was established long before Bardock, it's a once-in-a-millenium occurence, atleast according to Namek saga, meaning there had to be a millenium to make that claim.

That was filler Anon. The Original Super Saiyan was never mentioned in the manga.

The anime version of Super is Canon and mentions Planet Vegeta originally being alled Planet Plant in the Beerus Saga.
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>>149457280
He'd still have to somehow catch up to the power of an already-fused character.
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>>149453500
I WILL BEAT YOU YUGI
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>>149457265
1. filler is only shit when you have to watch it week by week, not in a full release
2. kai OST is dogshit compared to the original
3. kai redrawn scenes look worse
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>>149454395
They left Beerus's maximum power ambiguous enough that he probably won't get matched or surpassed any time soon until a final rematch with Goku, on top of that it seems the "god" aspect of his powers probably leaves extra room since he can apparently destroy things in a way that seems different than simply being stronger than the thing he's destroying.
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>>149453500
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>>149457280
I won't put it past them considering all the asspulls we are witnessing, but I don't think even TOEI would try to imply Trunks' edgy anger will put him on Vegito's level.
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>>149457265
>without the filler
No, I don't. Filler is part of the experience. It has no Kikuchi music either.
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>>149457356
Super Saiyan God Super Super Saiyan 2
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>>149457010

Vegeta was still an asshole until he sacrificed himself.
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>>149457319
It feels like they just kept handwaving his strength higher and higher. Remember the whole "Goku is a 7, Beerus is a 10, Whis is a 15" thing? That was in BoG. He would have closed a big chunk of that gap between BoG and Resurrection F, even just from Blue alone. Beerus doesn't exactly seem like the kind of guy who does much training to keep the gap consistent.
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>>149456654
>he still hasn't outgrown needing Faulconer to enjoy DB
I still love listening to the team's music, but come on
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>>149457246
On top of this. Vegetto can't lower his power. Potara fusion consider their base power as their minimum power.

Trunks could never power up to Vegetto's base power, unless he had End of Z Gohan's/matured Uub's base power level.
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>>149457204

It's not even spandex. You can see that they're clearly pants over a tucked in shirt.
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>>149457371
he wasn't, he promised trunks to go the park well before sacrifice

the sacrifice didn't come out of nowhere
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>>149457044
>Base women should have no business writing shounen
what about Super Saiyan women?
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>>149457380
>"Goku is a 7, Beerus is a 10, Whis is a 15"
I think they retconned that
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>>149457316
1. try sitting through an unedited full episode of the original dbz and see just how much absolutely fucking nothing happens 90% of the time or how they cut away from the action every 5 seconds to some random bullshit. it's astonishing

2. it's the original jap music which is still good but I'll admit it's placed poorly. although that's due to the composer being a fucking faggot plagiarist and toei having to hastily replace everything to cover for his fuckups so what can you do

3. they don't come up super often and are a minor complaint, plus they get better and less lazily drawn as it goes on
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>>149457356
Gohan will get his own SSB form as previously teased earlier in the series, then he'll fuse with Trunks to make SSB Gohanks. Then they'll fuse with Vegetto to make Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Vegigohanks
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>>149451927

This is just the beginning, now we can get other fusions and new transformations, and fusions with those transformations.
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>>149456571
In short, Goku fights a god that he can't win. Goku and Vegeta train. Freeza is back, power ups but loses again because Goku and Vegeta have god powers with Blue hair and someone has the power to rewind time. they train more for the tournament with similar universes where Goku and Vegeta are much stronger than the other universe characters except for the Assassin that is better than them.
Black Goku is Goku that is a Kai that doesn't like human beings which got insane because he spared with the filthy human(Goku) that touched his beautiful green skin. He timetravels through a bullshit timering and is immortal. Goku is acting like a retarded more than usual, Vegeta can't make up plans other than training. They timetravel to run away from Black because Black powerups just because.Trunks gets powerups to god level without training just by screaming louder.The immortal Zamasu(yes, 2 Zamasu from different times) gets Mafuba'd(yes they remembered) but Goku forgot the seal so they wasted 2 episodes on that shit for nothing. Zamasu gets scared, fuses with himself, for somereason that's allowed, works and get much stronger. Goku and Vegeta can't remember fusion for some reason when an Old Kai is there with the potara rings, until the next episode that is.

Gohan and Videl are dead inside and their baby is stronger than them and Piccolo is the babbysitter of everyone now. Buu is sleeping. the only character that is the same as always is Bulma
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>>149457384
>Growing out of music

The irony, since all the Kai/Super BGM is Toei trying to ecreate the 80s/early-90s themes they had back then.
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>>149457358
did you miss the huge scandal where kai's ost got entirely replaced with kikuchi? do you live under a rock?
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>>149457400

I think killing a stadium full of people because he's having a mid-life crisis is pretty assholeish.
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>>149457445
Whoa there, I'm not defending Sumitomo's trash either.
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>>149457461
Entirely? I heard it was just a few sagas.
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I was expecting this episode to be filler.
Turned out to be the best one so far.

Also, did anyone else notice that it had a different art-style? Vegeta was looking buff.
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>>149457265
Kai has the worst OST thou, and it's half the magic.

Biggest indicator for me? Gohan's Awakening:

> DBZ version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZVJq_6_aP4

> DBKai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nv9eDNZJEZU

Like, what the fuck is up with that orchestra?
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>>149454273
I'm more hoping that Vegito will unleash a beat down on Zamasu that is too much for his regen to keep up.
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>>149457464
he knew they had dragon balls, so not really
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>>149455783
in my experience as a pleb streamer it either is terrific or absolutely terrible.
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>>149457433
>2. it's the original jap music

Not quite, I mean yeah it is but it's only the tracks after the first Cooler movie, because that's when the movie songs (which would then be used on the series) started being stereo. All the god-tier tracks that came before are mono and so not used in Kai.
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>>149457445
What's your point? They're doing the same thing for both Berserk and Jojo Bizarre Adventure animes that came out this year despite both being 20 years old.

They have the music like that out of respect to the author who wrote the manga(s) around that time era.

Also HxH had that cheesy late-90s theme through the entire 2011 anime to further prove that fact.
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>>149457435
> Vegigohanks

Stop. STOP THIS MADNESS.

Shit I am actually starting to miss SSJ5 fanart. Goddamnit.
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>>149457508

Anon, I'm going to walk away now.
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>>149457229
here's a better one faggot
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>>149456805
bugs bunny vs. saitama when
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>>149451152
Doubt it. The fuckers have been showing the "big reveals" in the preview since the show started. Terrible
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>>149457508
...did they even wish those people back?
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Since Frieza can't count, how many minutes did he actually mean?
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>>149457486
well that's early 90's jpop, it makes sense they wouldn't have something that dated again.
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>>149456876
Pseudo Cyan
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>>149457570
yes, bulma did
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>>149457575
5 space minutes
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>>149457241
bad news kid

you'll be waiting another week
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>>149457575
Everything happened in <5 minutes, anon.
We saw the events in slow motion.
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>>149457575
>Thinking all time is measured in earth style
Check your ningen privilege
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>>149457575
Frieza uses space base 8 because he counts the spaces between his fingers.

...so he really doesn't understand time.
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>>149457575
5 1.8x episodes.
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>>149457591
Not when they replace it with that generic whole lot of nothingness.

They could make a new version of it just like they had the Chala-head-chala remade.

Dragon Soul is a nice OP but it gets pretty annoying after a while plus Chala and We Gotta Power both wipe the floor with it.

What's even wrong with 90's JPOP? Dragon Ball is a 90's anime. You don't like it's sound design choices , you probably not gonna be a fan of the show itself.
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>>149457483
refer to the picture

all current home releases of kai in the US are entirely kikuchi now (the 4 seasons) the only way to get the first half of it with yamamoto is to buy the out of print parts 1-4, which can be pretty pricey if you want the Blu-rays

the kai buu saga was done by sumimoto, super's and the new movies' composer
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DO YOU THINK YOU CAN WIN NINGEEEEEENAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!?
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>they can't beat someone immortal
>wasting a Vegito/Vegetto fight like that
>Vegi will only appear like in the last 5 minutes of the next episode, while the rest is about 20 humans running away, Gowasu just there until he says "use the potara" and Goku goes "oh.. right! what are those...? food?", Kai goes "no, fusion", trunks goes "wut?", S.Kai adds "don't worry about permanent fusion, just ask dragon to unfuse heh", vegeta goes "fuck yes" and Trunks is still at "wut"
>Zamasu going bio-broly

Such wasted potential. Can at least Vegi use that sword-ki attack, cut the hand with the timering and get Zamasu auto-delete? Or will a bunch of Zamasu from other timelines appear and fusion more because Trunks, Goku, Vegeta and Bulma think it's okay to timetravel without consequences?
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>>149457575
toriyama said that freza doesnt know his real power so that's why he though i will be 5 minutes
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>>149457485
different studios
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>>149457575
Consider the following:
-Goku and Frieza were trading blows and blasts
-The novel-length dialogue they spent insulting each other
-Both bickering with Vegeta about the Dragon
-Gohan flew to AND from the ship
-Goku spending at least a minute on a speech of why he was giving Frieza a second chance at life
-Goku going to two ships and yelling when both didnt work

5 hours and 55 minutes
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>>149457508
Anon. The fact you can bring people to life does not give you the right to disintegrate their bodies painfully, destroy their families and the tournament, just because you had a mid-life crisis and you have a recovery plan.

Just like the fact that if I beat the everliving shit out of you and put you in a hospital is okay just because you'll eventually recover and live life as normal.

It's common sense anon. Vegeta was a narcissistic asshole.
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Gohan peaked bros.
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>>149457485
Yeah, it actually resembled DBZ for a change. Good stuff.

>>149457692
I see. Did Buu saga get color corrected yet by the way?
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>>149457671
chala was the opening for dbz

unmei no hi was literally only played once for that gohan scene. one is more iconic than the other, incomparable.

I didn't watch Kai so idk if they replaced all of the orchestral music so I can't comment on that, but it literally makes sense to replace forgotten inserted songs.
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>>149457526
>>149457526

Oh wait, I need to make a correction! A fusion dance probably can't do another fusion dance. So instead, have them fuse using the EX Armbands, to make EX Gohanks. Then we'll have Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan EX Vegigohanks!
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>>149457486
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRB2z0W7N9E

no music?
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>>149457752
Consider the following:
-ignore the filler
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>>149456364
>>What would Goku look like in the afterlife?

He wouldn't have received a body. Remember that the bit with everyone going to 'heaven' is filler, that isn't what happens in Toriyama's version.

You die, you either were a great hero and get to keep your body and go to live with the kais and represent them. Or you weren't a hero and you don't get your body.

Remember, this isn't a reconstruction of your body, or a replica, it is your actual body.

Anyway, those that don't have bodies are sent to be reincarnated.

If you were evil though, you go to hell so that you won't reincarnate.
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>>149457671
>Dragon Ball is a 90's anime.
And Kai is not
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>>149457738
Source?
Toei should make this studio fix all the previous episodes. Twinks should not be in DB.
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>>149457762
? They died in an instant

in fact it was better since they didn't get turned into candy by majin buu
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>>149457711
Shit I actually would've really liked so see Black and Vegito cross ki swords and have like a kiSaber swordfight.

Fucking hell TOEI.
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>>149457809
this is wrong

Vegeta was given a body by king yemma just fine, he can give you any body (since vegetas real body was blown to dust)
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>>149457798
That's how the American version as well.

It's kinda foreboding and intense in it's own way, but in the end Unmei No Hi makes this scene ultra powerful.
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>>149457232
No matter how powerful Vegito is, Beerus and Whis will be 20x more powerful regardless as the point is they will never reach them
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>>149457799
What parts are filler?
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>>149457265
DBZ Kai does keep some of the filler and padding and even cuts scenes from the manga in the Saiyan arc. The only reason to watch Kai is for the splendid western dubs and yamamoto music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUEHnyAtp9I
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>>149457821
> And Kai is not

If you're gonna be childish about this I have no reason to keep going, you're just gonna defend Kai just because. Let's cut this dumb discussion short.
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>>149457237

>zamasu is purple

I'm guessing Vegito is beating the unholy fuck out of him so bad that even though he is immortal, he's having a hard time literally keeping himself from being pulverized, and he's just sort of falling apart but not actually dying.
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how does trunks keep gaining so much fucking power?

isnt he still technically in ssj2?

this is fucking insane
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>>149457901
read the damn manga
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>>149457901
Read the manga or wath Kai. No one isn't going to spoonfeed you.
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>>149457833
> in fact it was better since they didn't get turned into candy by majin buu

As if he knew or cared.

Let it go man, Vegeta was an asshole until Kid Buu, when he finally came grips and appreciated Goku's ideals for what they are and acknowledges him.
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>>149457791
you mean fixing the green tint? no I think that's going to stay sadly (along with being widescreen REEEEEE)

I just really want to hear the dub for the buu saga. I heard they finished it a long time ago but it just hasn't released yet for some reason

My guess is they're gonna air it first on toonami while they dub super then just go into that
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WHERE IS SHINJI?!
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>>149455227
>Gohan was the strongest character in DBZ at the end.
Gohanfgas are truly delusional, Veggito is the strongest character in Z.
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>>149457461
The kikuchi music wasn't placed correctly
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>>149457986
>at the end
Vegetto didn't exist
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>>149455742
I actually never thought of it like that before. That would of been better.
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>>149457944
God ki is contagious.

>>149457974
>you mean fixing the green tint? no I think that's going to stay sadly
Dang.
>along with being widescreen
Double dang.
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>>149457986
ARe you being intentionally dense or just retarded?

Because everyone else was smart enough to understand non-fused characters are the point of discussion here since fused ones can be scaled ridiculously.

A fused Ultimate Gohan and Goku would be stronger than Vegito, this is fact.
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>>149457901
dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Filler
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>>149458005
Ss2 was Gohan's thing, leave it at that, Gohanfags.
but everything after that counted except GT.
Also Mai is the biggest slut.
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>>149457944
SSJ levels stopped mattering when SSJ2 Vegeta surpassed SSJ3 Goku.
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>Next episode looks promising with quality
>it will only be during the fight which won't last half the episode
>rest of that episode will look shit
>the episode after this will look even horrible
is this what they call monkey paw?
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>>149453500
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>>149458014
Vegito is still going to be weaker than Beerus somehow isn't he?
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>>149458012
It would've meant progression for this goddamn series for once. Characters grow but nothing fucking changes, every arc the results of the previous one resets.

I just want some continuity for this garbage. Having Vegito stay AFTER the Black arc would be a start.
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>>149458050
not even a Gohanfag, but he had Ultimate, which put him above Goku, Vegeta, Mr. Buu, and Gotenks.
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>>149456654

Pleb shit, this is the best vegito theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvQZO3EpgRA
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>>149456505
You're getting too deep into the weeds there. You know Toei didn't think that far.
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>>149457937
No according to the synopsis something is fucking with Zamasu and causing him to lose power.
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>>149458079
Yeah.

Just give it up anon, Beerus is eternally stronger until plot demands something happens.

Just imagine this scene happened and forget about it
.
> skip to 1:24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnLIrqA2fxA
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is vegito only allowed to show up when kaioshin is around?
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>>149458079
Most likely.
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>>149457922
I will never not be mad that they took out cell's insert song along with the rest of the yamamoto music. I can deal with kikuchi because it's still good and it comes in during cell so it mostly fits but taking out inserts is a sacrilege

the thing with kai is that it's obviously not perfect and has a bunch of flaws, but most of them are minor and can be mostly ignored compared to the original which is just all fucked to shit with the pacing and dubbing the entire way through

when you wanna sit down and actually watch the show (in english) kai is a MUCH more enjoyable and reasonably paced experience, unless you just wanna nostalgiafag for the sake of it
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>>149455227
Technically uub was stronger he just wasn't use to his full kid buu powers yet.
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>>149458114
But it stands out so fucking much. At least make an attempt goddamit.

They don't even care about the concept of suspension of disbelief.
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>yfw Father-Son Galick Gun
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>>149458183

By that logic Gohan had Super Saiyan 3 he just wasn't aware of it yet.
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>>149457799
And ignoring the filler we still have Goku and Frieza going at it for a bit.
The Porunga bit.
More fighting.
Goku's first attempt to let Frieza off.
More fighting.
Frieza's self Kienzan
A bit of begging and then taunting from Frieza.
Goku delivering the last shot to Frieza.
Flying to the spaceship.
Planet goes kaboom.

Even with the filler fat trimmed out that's still gonna be longer than 5 minutes.
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>Vegito struggling

N-no.
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>>149457970
did you even know read dragon ball?
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>>149458272

Is that page supposed to prove i'm wrong? Because you just proved me right.

Vegeta was deluding himself, he was narcissitic and only cared about his own pride. He got used to life on Earth and when he saw Goku come back his inferiority complex floated right back and he hated what he has become, he wanted to be the asshole that invaded Earth once again.
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>>149458242
Everything other than spoken dialog can happen at literally whatever speed the writing needs it to. These characters can move so fucking fast by this point in the story.

I'd like to see someone transcribe every bit of dialog in the manga between the two, splice together the corresponding bits from the anime, and see how long the runtime of that comes out to be.

It's not likely exactly "5 minutes" though. To think that Freeza can know how long, to the fucking second, it will take the planet to die would be pretty weird.
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How would boros do it vs first Frieza
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>>149458332
yes since he has never been an asshole since freeza arc
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>>149456597
Gal-O Sengen?
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>>149458091
Goku ended up defeating the strongest Buu.
Goku could whoop Mystic Gohan easily.
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>>149458354
Just because he didn't run around murdering innocent people doesn't mean he wasn't an asshole
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>>149456144
>I hope Vegito does no defuse right after going back.
>I really, really want a mini-arc with him as the protagonist
I agree actually.

Honestly it's a great set up for some filler between arcs, at the very least. Some light hearted stuff while Vegito tries to address the lives of Goku & Vegeta would make for some good filler.

Much more than that fucking Copy Vegeta shit. Christ that was bad.
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>>149458346
Boros can't even beat saiyan saga Vegeta
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>>149458394
>Goku ended up defeating...
with an attack that isn't dependent on the user's power

>the strongest Buu
Oh, you're one of them. I thought you retards went extinct a long time ago.
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>>149458476
you are right, having a family and being around your wife unlike goku means you are an asshole
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>>149458394
>Kid Buu
>strongest
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>>149458537
not him but Buu is a magic creature from outside the universes with no limits

he is pure rage, he could be as strong as Goku is right now
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>>149455437
Because if he gets bopped main line Beerus dies
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>>149458534
IT means you are deluding yourself if you break down eventually.

Just because he THOUGHT he could be better doesn't mean he is. And throughout Cell Saga he WAS AN ASSHOLE.

Or did you forget that his pride and arrogance are the whole reason Cell got to Perfect form, in the process risking everyone, including his family, all because he wanted to stroke his saiyan peen in front of everyone.

Before claiming I didn't read, how about you pick up the very basic shit that happened?

Goku's not an asshole, he's an idiot. He clearly loves his son more than Vegeta did at Cell Saga.
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>>149455650
>>149455742
Just in case :
college super Sayaman
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>>149458604
>from outside the universes with no limits
>he is pure rage
Where the fuck are you getting this nonsense?
>>
>>149458677
All that and more was basically teased in the OP, for an arc that never happened.

This is getting depressing.
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>>149452375
He better fucking not, Trunks didn't do the ritual or get special training from Whis
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>>149458695
if I remember correctly Elder Kaioshin said it
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>>149458394
This is objectively wrong since Toriyama himself said Gohan was the strongest "unfused character" at the end of the Buu Saga.
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>>149455650
Tien to Freeza was peak Dragon Ball
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>>149458728
when was the last time you watched Z with official subs or read the official manga?

I don't remember him saying any of that when I rewatched with Dragon Box subs earlier this year.

>>149458742
Post your source, faggot.
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>>149458394
Buuhan is stronger than Kid Buu, he reverted to a baser form. This is long established and known, stop spreading misinformation

Also Goku couldn't win against Kid Buu, he needed the Dragon Balls to aid him.
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>>149458534
>unlike Goku
He sacrificed himself you nigger
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>>149458801
>he needed the Dragon Balls to aid him
And a Spirit Bomb.

Which required the aid of Vegeta and Mr. Buu. And the consent of most of the earthlings.

Which required the aid of Mr. Satan.
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>>149458781
now i don't remember the page...I will post it
anyway my memory isn't that great
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>>149458843
Kid Buu killed Gohan.
Not Goku though.
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>>149458394
>strongest buu
LOL, you mean, the one that is only stronger than gimped fat buu? Gohan was stronger than Super Buu and him plus piccolo, and weaker than with gotenks, while goku was having trouble with ssj3 against fat buu( essentially super buu level)..So, since gohan was stronger than Super Buu with no absorptions, through basic logic we can assume that he was stronger than fat buu pre-absorption and way stronger than kid buu( who is, again, only shown as strong since he was the final enemy, although he was the second weakest).
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>>149458922
because Goku left
and Gohan was unconscious
and Gohan can't breathe in space
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>>149456006
Madara Uchiha
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>>149458957
Super Buu had gimped buu in him, making him gimped.
The Kai that Kid buu absorbed dulled his power.
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>>149458985
wasnt there a movie where he was in space without a space suit?
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>>149459019
movies aren't canon and I don't think so
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>>149459019
no
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>>149459019
Dr. Wheelo and Battle of Gods
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Do we know how long it will before Vegito reverts yet? I would kill for at least one or two SoL Vegito episodes while they wait for the Dragon Balls.
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>>149454276

Do the androids even have the power to destroy a planet? Don't think they ever used anything but weak ki attacks.
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Will he ever stop being so best?
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>>149459390
I hate DBS for the shit story but I stay for the quality
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>>149455650
I liked slick Goku
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Are they ever gonna explain how the fuck Black kept getting stronger?

Ginyu stole Goku's body and that didn't mean shit.

I feel like the writers of this series fail at the basics of building dramatic tension.
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>>149458237
Ultimate Gohan is stronger than ss3 already retard. Way to miss the point. Uub didn't have his full potential unlocked.
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>>149459603
>Are they ever gonna explain how the fuck Black kept getting stronger?
Zenkai boost I ain't gotta explain shit.
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>>149453202
I love how Vegito is immediately more brutal. As it should be.
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>>149457315
>>149457354
>>149458066
Holy shit, this.
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>Father-Son Gallick Gun
>SSB Vegito
How does Super keep delivering? Do they have a new director?
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>>149459779

But he never healed
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>>149455227
Mystic powers are garbage.
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>>149453420
the funny part is that she supposedly left him because he wasn't faithful. he should have stayed in the desert and continued to fuck the cat.
how man children do you think she secretly has? how many abortions?
trunks has some odd colored hair for vegeta's kid.
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So to unfuse, Vegito will have to use the Dragon Balls. But the Black timeline doesn't have them so he needs to return to his own timeline. Then he still needs to find Dragon Balls to use.

Does that mean he'll remain fused for at least a little while or will they completely time skip over it and Vegeta and Goku are returned to normal the next time you see them?
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>>149453420
Yamcha was killed by a Saibaman
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>>149452275
he'll give it to vegito.
scythe to sword combat with weird ki-sword techniques
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>>149458650
I don't know about all that, but Vegeta is undefeated against Goku.
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Vegito wrecking Blamasu with his ki sword please to show him how to really use it.
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>>149460381
Which was there because of Vegeta.
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What was the point of Super Saiyan 3 and 4
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>>149458498
yes he could
he's at least on frieza final form level
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>>149461077
source: ass
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>>149453202
Sakuga
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>>149455976
everything downscaled after frieza.
no way were androids stronger than a guy who could bust planets with one finger. remember what fighting did to namek?
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>>149456505
Go back and watch the first Terminator movie. It's the same paradox, don't worry about it.
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>>149460002
Yes, it's Toriyama
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