ViVid Strike!

>>149419931
>Ix-chan
Hyped. I want a tea party with Einhart, Vivio, and Ix for Ancient Belka rulers.

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>>149420182
And Subby chaperoning.

>1h 14 mins

I hope VividTrans will get theirs out faster this time.

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>>149420554
>>149420593
Best Sound Stage. I came buckets the first time I listened to it.

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Good taste confirmed.

>>149420751
>Ix knows and had met Claus before
>She wants his ____

>>149420805
She probably had a fateful encounter with him when he was a shota. Pulled a Negi and unintentionally charmed Ix.

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Fujima is a God.

>>149420182
I'd love to see Ix fight. She's not a fighter, but a year of training should stilll show something awesome with her specific skills.

Will Ix be Chantez's yuri partner? Chantez is my favorite vivid but she never really had someone to ship with.

>>149422179
I doubt it. She dotes on Ix, but she's still a follower of the Saint.

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What is her MMA theme song?

Is the show fun? Is it worth picking it up?

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>>149422806
Probably not, unless you watched the rest of Nanoha, or at least Vivid.

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>>149422806

Not really. Play it on the 2nd monitor while you're doing something else.

Starting in a few mins.

>>149422806
It is fun, but if you have to ask this late (5th installment) into the game then you probably won't spend the time catching up.

>>149422806
You could probably watch the show and know enough just for this show alone if you didn't watch the other Nanoha series.

For instance, you probably won't get what Einhart actually meant by her mentor being in her heart.

>>149423220
Oh shit that is a cute tomboy.

>Dat line up
OH FUCK.

>>149423334
RIP Miura.

>>149423334
>>149423358
Damn it. Miura is fated to lose, but she sure as hell is going to make Rinne work seriously hard to get a win.

>>149423368
And Vivio. But that was obvious given that >I beat her before but she got much stronger foreshadowing and the sky-high likelihood of jobbing.

I wonder if they take the opportunity and make Enihart freak at least a little when Vivio ends up in hospital.

>>149422806
No. No.

>>149422806
It doesn't make sense if you didn't watch the previous Nanoha stuff.
And if you did, you probably want to watch this too, naturally.

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Miura STRONK.

>>149423334
>>149423358
This is confusing as fuck

I should just leave the thread and wait for ron to sub.

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Rinne too strong.

>>149421760
I don't want to see all the vivids die

The outcome is obvious, but man Rinne is a beast.

>>149423456
Fuck Vivid Strike then. Ruining the characters of Vivid.

>winning against Miura

And people thought some shitty bootleg Hegemon hobo was going to defeat The Punisher?

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>>149423792
>The outcome is obvious
I know, of course Miura is going to win

>>149423817
We've been saying since the first week that Einhart is going to beat Rinne. Fuuka is going to lose to Rinne.

>using Miura to job

This is Signum all over again
Why couldn't it have been Vivio?

>>149423808
What are you talking about? Vivio not wining is par on course with Vivid.

>>149423858
Nah Fuuka is the special girl who can beat all the talented girls because apparently Nanoha is now about training>talent.

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RiP Miura

>>149423901
It makes no sense. She is going to loose to Rinne and Rinne is loosing to Fuuka. How the hell is Fuuka so much better then Vivio with just a bit of training?

>>149423924
The damage isn't real... R-right?

>>149423967
>The damage isn't real... R-right?

Of course nothing long term but seems weird why it is suddenly so brutal.

>>149423889
I wouldn't call it jobbing per se when Rinne is just stronger and is basically around Einhart's level.

>>149423909
>>149423959
>thinks Fuuka is going to win
Just like Vivio won in her manga, right? Rinne is Einhart for Strike!. Rinne is going to make it to fight Einhart.

Well, its obvious Vivio is gonna lose to Rinne.
Now, whether Rinne wins or loses against Fuuka, either way its gonna be a rather meaningful fight against Einhart.

>Rinne vs Einhart
>2 characters who, at one point, sought to be strong to protect the things that are precious to them
>Fuuka vs Einhart
>Classic disciple vs master fight

>>149424060
Fuuka is going to beat friendship into Rinne. How else do you think the anime is going to end?

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>>149423924

Well, I'm fucking triggered now.

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>Miura loses to shill Einhart more

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I just watched this and I spent the entire episode repeating the words "This is reddit, this is memes, this is reddit, this is memes..." under my breath.

I fucking hated it. I was writhing around on the floor in front of my computer for the last 30 seconds it was so painful.

>Ayy quirky reddit pop mahou shoujo meme im going to le magikaru the heck outta this xD lmao
If you liked it you're in the wrong place

>>149424116
Fuuka will, but it won't be through an official match. Rinne will lose to Einhart and then Fuuk and Rinne will have a re-match some time later outside.

>>149423924
>>149424122
This is fake

>>149424006
They did mention that the fights are gonna get brutal.

>>149424251
So it become a ryona anime?

>>149424251
But it still does not make sense. We saw the fights in Vivid and the girls only got ruffed up a bit. Suddenly it is super brutal with them getting life threatening injuries?

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>>149424272
That's already been the case since the bullies episode

>>149424102
Based on the brackets, Miura fights twice: first against Rinne and then against Vivio.

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>>149424272
It already was one

>>149423594
Einhart is safely out of the plot, she is put aside.
Rinne will first show strenght by knocking out Miura, then there will the the "important duel" where she beats Vivio. Which will make the scene for her final fight with Fuuka.

>>149424241
Can somebody confirm?

>>149423959
I doubt Fuuka will win against Rinne.
At best she'll just put up a good fight and manage to beat some sense into Rinne, who reflects on what she has done for the past few years after the fight.
Then Rinne proceeds to fight Einhart, which would be rather thematic, with both of them having sought out strength to protect what they love at one point. Einhart pulling a Sieg and asking Rinne the same exact question Sieg asked Einhart in her fight would be very appropriate considering that Rinne never smiles in her fights.

>>149424285
Don't be so dramatic. They have magic that can heal things like that without any problem.

>>149424411
You give the writers to much credit.

>>149424338
Not enough blood for the summoning of white devil.

>>149424285
The fights in Vivid involve simulated injuries. They don't get the injuries for real, but they still feel the pain as if they really did get injured. Then Sieg was stated to be able to casually plow through the system and give real injuries.

The fights here aren't the same as the intermiddle, they probably roll with a different set of rules.

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>>149424122
>an accurate representation of what it feels like to wait for Ron's subs for this episode

>>149424480
Seems still dangerous as fuck and very irritating for a Nanoha anime

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>>149424472
I can fix that

>>149424411
Yeah, it would be weird for Fuuka to win already since we're only half way into the season.

>>149423334
Fuck this shit, they can't make Rinne able to beat Miura of all people.
Besides, even plot-wise, beating Miura and then going against Vivio, who is weaker than Miura, is retarded.

I hope she at least cheats or something.

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thiccc

>>149424512
Nanoha Strikers was full of blood.
remember what happened to Vita

>>149424512
Anon, Nanoha did get run through with a drone's blade once before.
This much violence isn't really that new.

>>149424524
Surely that's edited, right? Fuck it, PICKED UP. Don't disappoint me anon.

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>>149424557
In fucking dangerous situations. Those fights are just "games". So give me serious situations or keep it light hearted.

>>149424512
Subaru busted her arms and legs and kept going like a unstoppable berserk running on rage fuel, and that was animated ind detail with blood and graphic nature. This is nothing compared to that.

>>149424571
It's real, you the same reaction of any of us

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[insert meme song lyrics here]

>>149424528
I did the post before reading the thread.
I have like Vivid Strikers so far, but this is honestly just stupid.

>>149424621
How the fuck is she supposed to fight Vivio now?

>>149424585
I thought shit getting real was the appeal of sports anime besides all the homoeroticism of course
There is nothing wrong with the fights being more brutal

>>149424585
>All out martial arts tournaments
>"safe" games
Yeah, they are supposed to be safe like how nobody ever gets injured in other sports, much less stuff like martial arts, right?

>>149424382
I'm sorry anon, it actually happened.

This show became like the wrestling anime of some season ago.
Good only for ryona.

>>149424685
Maybe I just don't like seeing the entire Vivid cast jobbing to some random new characters.

>>149424691
Have you never read the Vivid manga?

>>149424674
It's a flashback

>>149424752
I did.
They have a system to prevent real injuries there.
But this isn't the Intermiddle. This being another tournament that runs without that system is completely reasonable.

And even in the Intermiddle, Sieg was stated to be able to give real injuries even with the system running.

>>149424621
>watching this just for that webm
>same reaction of any of us
That's not really true, most people here were already watching it.

>>149424829
Anybody expected this scene, all the people was surprised.

>>149424818
>This being another tournament that runs without that system is completely reasonable.

Why? Seeing how brutal it is Rinne could have easily killed somebody. Those are still children. A protectionsystem makes perfect sense.

>>149424585
>He can't enjoy both when Nanoha has been doing serious and lighthearted since the beginning
Are you serious?

>>149424892
Yes. VividStriker is a Vivid spinoff so I expect a different mood setting.

>>149424890
They have barrier jackets and devices. Those are safety standards.

>>149424976
Not enough obviously.

>>149424939
Vivid is the odd one in the family, you know. Strike may be a spinoff of Vivid, but it backtracks to be closer to Nanoha in terms of serious and lighthearted contrast.

>>149425129
And yet it shits onto the entire Nanoha cast. Kicking most of them out and letting the rest job to promote some new characters. How the hell is that supposed to attract the fanbase?

>watching this
>Miura literally scores two downs on Rinne in the first round

What the fuck? What kind of asspull are they doing to make Rinne win this?

>>149424890
A device that gives a barrier jacket and all the protection that entails is probably the basic protection in this kind of tournaments. Also, getting injured is expected for athletes.
Extra shit like the system in the Intermiddle are probably for the tournaments that needs em, the Intermiddle is a general combat tournament where one can roll with shooting as well as melee, it getting extra safeties especially for the audience in case of shooting spells makes sense.

>>149424818
>This being another tournament that runs without that system is completely reasonable.
Nothing that points out it does though.

>>149425190
How is getting your bones shattered enough protection?

>>149425171
They're forcing the fanbase to abandon the old and busted characters along with their VA.

>>149425234
Vivid also had things like broken limbs before, it is all simulated pain.

>>149425269
They're doing a shit job at it, tbqh.

>>149425234
Corona fought in the inter-middle with puppeted broken arms.

>>149425269
Killing it in the progress.

>>149425269
I hope the idea goes badly for them.

>Miura is a god tier cook

Just when I thought best girl couldn't get any bester

>>149425234
Its enough protection in the same way a teenage Nanoha got plowed through a sharp blade and Vita getting all bloody and also getting plowed through a sharp blade at the end of StrikerS on her way to the engine room.

Again, athletes, especially martial arts fighters, are prepared to be injured

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>>149425272
This time is real.
She also coughed blood

>>149425171
What's chewing you? Focusing on the main Vivid cast and not introducing the older cast isn't shitting on them, dude. Rinne is literally Sieg lite 2.0, along with natural superhuman power. Losing to her is far from jobbing.

>>149425303
>>149425323
>>149425398
Sacrificing couple season to kill the entire franchise?
Sounds like a good plan.

>>149425404
I am just mad as fuck seeing Miura lose.

>>149425398
She would be better if the writers didn't force her to job.

>>149425420
She actually literally jobbed this episode, the very definition of job.

>>149422496
Brock Lesnar's

>>149425415
What was she thinking in that moment?

>>149425420
Rinne is going to loose to Fuuka. So Fuuka is being more powerful then any of the Vivid cast after just a few months training. They are simply cannonfodder

>>149425415
They did it all the time in Vivid as well.

>>149425516
Can you read the future?

>>149422496
Goldberg's WCW/WWE theme

>>149425508
I could bet a hundred bucks that it was "ba-bakana!"

>>149425479
Are you telling me jobbing means any character who loses a fight because they are weaker?

>>149425516
Highly unlikely. Even if she won by a miracle, there's no way she's going to beat Einhart.

>>149425549
>>149425516
It is very likely seeing how they build Rinne up. Fuuka has to beat her.

>>149425657
Meant to quote >>149425632

>>149425420
>>149425632

>Sub-champion losing against a character that appeared out of air.
>Not shitting on them

What is the other purpose of Vivid-Strike? (Aside introducing muh new Va's) To satisfy the ryona fetichists by showing their favorite girls being beaten? Because fuck it's working
But fuck i really hope this anime tanks.

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>>149425234
It's not hard to do when you're OP as fuck, especially when you can bypass defense and the system.

>>149425632
Jobbing is to use a previously established strong character for the new enemy to defeat and make them look more menacing , which is exactly what they used Miura for. What she did today is job to Rinne.

>>149425702
>But fuck i really hope this anime tanks.

It will. I doubt it is going to sell many BDs. What else is left? A few CDs maybe, no manga, nobody will give a shit about Rinne or Fuuka figurines.

>>149425702
>a character that appeared out of air.
Are you for reals? How in the world is Rinne a random character that just appeared out of nowhere for this episode? She's been hyped more than any other character in the show to monster level.

>>149425727
So basically, a weaker character losing to a stronger character is still jobbing. That's stupid.

>you will never watch Sieg physically dismantle Rinne

>>149425800
Except Rinne lost to fucking Vivio who, even as the MC, couldn't beat Miura.

>>149425800
Introduced in this anime, get a fucking idea.

>>149425800
>words definitions are stupid
Yeah, keep that mentality whenever you don't like something.

>>149425890
Has the TSAB tournament arc concluded in Vivid yet? Last I checked Vivio pulled out battle continuation and is still going.

>>149425632
>Highly unlikely. Even if she won by a miracle, there's no way she's going to beat Einhart.

Maybe not Einhard but Fuuka is going to be stronger then Vivio and Miura. And all of that with a few months of training.

>>149425800
Weak characters don't job because they are weak and can't make the enemy look dangerous, only strong characters like Miura can take the task.
We are talking about the girl that can kick small starlight breakers here, making her loss to the new girl is actually stupid.

>Rank #1 fighter beats rank #5 fighter

What exactly is wrong with this?

>>149426027
Despite being a Miurafag I do not mind her loosing. The Vivid cast is big after all so some of the girls have to loose. It is just that its done in such a cheap way. The entire cast only exists to show how strong Rinne is and how great Fuuka is for getting even stronger then Rinne. It has nothing to do with Nanoha or even Vivid. You could have used entirely new characters for it.

>>149425890
Vivio recounts that it was a close match, and sounds more like she won by technicality rather than actually beating Rinne in a fight. Rinns has trainer to become stronger though and she is as Vivio saw in episode 3.

>>149425897
Introduced since the beginning != out of thin air.

>>149425936
Maybe you should learn what context means and apply it.

>>149426027
A strong character who is still weaker than the opponent. This is typical power scaling by using relatively strong characters to established powerlevel for stronger characters. it has nothing to do with trying to make a strong character look weak and lose on purpose or due to sudden CIS or PIS.

>>149426183
trained*

>>149426083

>>149426083
That's what I am wondering. Rinne was already established as #1 with Vivio winning more so on technicality. What's wrong that Miura lost?

If Miura won there wouldn't be much of a plot.

>>149426258
>What's wrong that Miura lost?

Fans of Vivid being mad their characters lose?

>>149426013
Didn't Nanoha matched Fate in a few weeks time? Talent is an unfair bitch.

>>149426258
Because Miura is far better than Vivio.

>If Miura won there wouldn't be much of a plot.
The plot changes depending on how the writer wants, "wouldn't be plot" is an excuse for a bad writing.

>>149426353
>Because Miura is far better than Vivio.
And? Miura still ranks below Rinne. If anything judging on rank Miura losing is predictable.

>>149426313
>lost within logical reasons
Nothing to get upset about.

Since Miura should be fighting twice, her second fight is with Vivio. It's pretty much Vivio is going to win due to the direction of the story. But it's not like Vivio and Miura aren't closely matched since Vivid. Vivio has only gotten stronger in later Vivid chapters.

>>149426183
The spinoff is inconsistent with the established plot, just to pander the new characters.
It's writting 101

>>149426468
>inconsistent
Based on?

Reminder that Subaru could beat every Vivid character barehanded, with no magic

>>149426468
>Crying inconsistent just because your favorite girl lost
Stop. You're being obnoxious.

>>149426465
>Since Miura should be fighting twice

Not with those injuries and we probably wont even see it.

Am I the only Miurafag who enjoyed the match? It was a good fight

>>149426549
It is perfectly understandable that fans do not like seeing the established characters loose.

>>149426183
>Maybe you should learn what context means and apply it.
The context is what makes it jobbing.

>>149426576
I'm not a Miurafag, enjoyed the match and think the end result was not the best.

>>149426544
Sieg-chan could beat Subaru.

Anyone who thought that this loli hating shit where Rinne Mature Womyn Humiliates Smaller Girls will let Miura defeat this Rinne must be pretty stupid.

>>149426672
Doubtful.

>>149425865
Sieg casually taking down Rinne would destroy Rinne's self-esteem

>>149426526
The other installments.
>>149426549
Been saying it since the beggining. Nothing obnoxious about it since i kinda enjoy seeing my favorite girls getting beat up. But the inconsistencies are an insult
>>149426621
Inconsistencies, my friend.

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Someone needs to do a compilation of faces

>>149426652
Not in this context it doesn't. You can't generalize any fight involving established strong/skilled character losing to an equally established strong character who gets hyped to be even stronger by the narrative. Moreover, jobbing has the connotation of losing due to PIS or CIS, where the strong character who lost could or should had been able to win if they didn't suddenly suffer from PIS or CIS.

>>149426864
>other installments
Looking for examples.

>>149427042
There's the Vivid manga. Have fun!

>>149426783
Sieg is already beating people around Nanoha and Fate's level. Beating Subaru shouldn't be too difficult for her.

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>>149426576
I think it was pretty stupid, first Miura BTFO's Rinne and then AFTER activating her SLB-mode she gets near effortlessly BTFO herself.

No subs so maybe there was some explanation aside from DUDE TALENT LMAO but it seemed pretty nonsensical.

>>149427105
>Sieg is already beating people around Nanoha and Fate's level.

AAA military fighters?

>>149427143
>aside from DUDE TALENT LMAO

But we already learned training>talent!

>>149426544
>Nove, who is near Subaru's level, gets BTFO by an untrained Einhart
>v-vivids are weak guise i swear!

>>149426313
At least we actually got to see her fight this time.

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>>149427143
If I understood correctly she was using Vivio's bullshit defence

>>149427084
Cop-out argument. People can't take your words seriously now, you know.

Well, Sieg's position in the powerlevels list is rather hard to choose since she never really fought anyone on Nanoha and co's level. She has mostly fought the Vivids.
She could most probably give the experienced fighters a good fight, but winning isn't that clear considering that they could fly.

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Dat skindentation

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>>149426576
Seeing Rinne eat her words at the beginning of the match to give Miura that ribs shattering attack is a pretty good feeling. I love that little shit but talking shit like 'I won't use grappling with you cause you don't do it' is condescending as fuck. Especially since Miura have a record of beating Vivio, the only girl Rinne has ever lost to. Can't wait to see her getting beaten to paste.

That being said this episode had really nice animation. Especially after this pic.

>>149427301
If i'm guessing right the fallacy you're trying to label my argument, i could counter it by saying you're appealing to silence.

>>149427203
Subaru knocked Nove out in a single kick

>>149426465
>>149426565
Miura won't be fighting twice. The image in >>149423358 Is just showing that either Miura or Rinne will face Vivio in the A block finals. Since Miura lost, it will be Rinne.

That's some seriously BS seeding, though.

>>149427442
No she didn't.

>>149427146
Let's go with that. But seriously, in the mock battle between the old cast and new cast, the new cast put up a decent fight following mock battle scenario. Sieg could solo the new cast without any real difficult and still hold back a lot.

>>149427470
Limiters.

>>149427424
Are you talking about yourself or something? I didn't form a conclusion. You still haven't coughed up examples when you were the one who made the claim, and instead took the cop-out road.

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>>149427410
Webms never

>>149427633
>>149427410
>Mature strong woman > small ugly shits
Nanoha post A's in a nutshell

>LRD is here
Reminder to ignore and let him rot.

>>149427633
We don't even have subs yet.

>>149427609
Only their maximum output was limited. It wouldn't be different from fighting a non-serious Sieg who doesn't use her full power.

>>149427828
I am still waiting for a non shitty webm of Fuuka's transformation and that was last week

>>149427852
Pure speculation. But feel free to belief she can hold her own against Nanoha or Fate.

>>149427451
The seeding is weird. Can't tell if Einhart is required to fight in order to climb or she just automatically climbed without needing to fight.

>>149427793
There is nothing that looks as LRD her though.

>>149427912
To be fair, Sieg has a lot of advantage in melee, once she closes in its probably quite hard for them to get out of that range unless its the melee fighters like Signum.

As long as Nanoha and co plays keep away with their ability to fly, Sieg shouldn't be able to do a lot of damage to them unless she can do shooting spells.

>>149427979
Might be weighted seeding. Einhardt is currently the reigning champion of the U-15 bracket, so she probably gets seeded higher up, requiring fewer (if any) actual fights.

>>149427979
>>149428091
I think its just their guesses and explaining how they might be fighting each other.
To fight Einhart, they have to climb up to the finals.

>>149427616
Previous installments set certain things, somewhat in stone.
Vivid strike looks more like a fanfic, whereas the new characters are pandering under the excuse that both had a lot potential/talent.
Me giving you examples wouldn't be compared when you check the other sources.

>>149428211
You're saying a lot of things now, but don't give evidence to support your claims. I could say the same thing in reverse and just redirect you to the manga and previous series too.

It's not hard, just give a few examples of these "inconsistencies" that you're complaining about.

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>>149427633

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>>149428393
He has none, thats why

>>149428455
>Rinne finally snapped in a match
What the fuck did Miura even DO.

>>149428534
Knocked her down twice in the first round

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>>149428455
This probably is one of the best animated sequences in the franchise
Thanks!

>>149428553
>All it takes to make Rinne go BEARZERK is to just make her actually fight.
What a pathetic antagonist with a fragile little ego.

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>>149428553
Blood on the face.

>>149428576
Who is that and what is she doing in a Fuuka thread?

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>>149428697
Is this a Fuuka thread now?

>>149428740
Fuuka franchise.

>>149428607
A big disgrace

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>>149428792
I am ok with this

So how long does Miura has to do rehab?

>>149428393
That's an appeal to silence, but either way, my example i'm trying to point out is that Miura defeated Vivio (In the vivid manga). That establishes certain level on skill and strenght.
Then for purposes of plot on this "Spinoff" , That is diminished for the sake of making Rinne a "frighteting" opponent. Some people here pointed out that Miura jobbed in this fight.

>>149427908
Due to the size limit, it was understandable to lower bandwidth of the webm. But here you go. https://u.pomf.is/abodms.webm

>>149424188

Man /a/ just has too many problems and is far too asshurt about fucking reddit Jesus. This episode had a lot of problems nothing of which had to do with this boards obsession.

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>>149428534
She didn't snap, she just became serious. It's the first time we see her get serious on-screen in a match. Miura isn't a push-over, so it's only natural that Rinne gave it her all. Rinne snapping is probably going to be saved for Fuuka, or Einhart, or in a post-U-15 match sorta like what Vivio and Einhart did in Vivid.

>>149428943
I shall change it to tumblr next time I use this copy-pasta.

>>149428883
Not really. Miura won at the last time because she was a more skilled fighter, not because she was stronger. Vivio is fucking space Jesus, no one is at her level in vivid.
Besides we may don't know how their last fight is going to end in vivid but we do know Miura is ranked below Vivio in strike.

>>149429100
>but we do know Miura is ranked below Vivio in strike.

No she isn't you lying sack of shit. Miura is rank 5, Vivio rank 7.

>>149428883
Not him, but it should be noted that powerlevels aren't that set in stone in Nanoha-verse.

>>149429100
>A skilled fighter is no better than a strong person
Well, that's just stupid, anon.

>>149429000
>EXTREMELY angry Rinne pummeling at INCREDIBLY hihg speeds
>Somehow doesn't qualify for "snapped"
Maybe you know something I don't since I haven't seen the episode, but that sounds like she snapped to me.

>>149422806
Getting into Nanoha is not fun, and Vivid Strike is definitely not fun nor is it worth anything, least of all your time.

>>149429166
Granted, is not "That" established, but this whole thing feels cheap, to be honest.

>>149429204
She didn't snap dude she was just trying hard to win. They've shown her to have an extremely aggressive fighting style since the introduction.

Also I believe she started using grappling at the end, after saying she wouldn't use it at the start. Basically showing that Miura was dangerous.

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>>149428979
That whole sequence was cute as fuck
There were some interesting shots in this episode

I can't watch right now, how do Vivio and co react? Does Hayate appear to blast Rinne away for crippling Miura?

>>149429245
I'd say its somewhat expected.

Rinne is supposed to be strong.

Was Rinne pulling the same thing Vivio did in the final Vivio vs Einhart fight?

>>149429204
Watch the raw. She wasn't extremely angry at all. She literally didn't snap. She was getting pummeled by Miura for a while, but the table was turned in her favor after she got serious. Maybe there's a trace of anger in that she was afraid to lose, but it's definitely a far cry from the kind of you're imagining.

>>149429431
Yeah everyone is invulnerable now

Want to make a character strong, just slap some impenetrable armor on them and claim it's "risky" even though it literally never backfires

SLB kicks, who cares, I got dude armor lmao

>>149429498
Not a surprise really. You saw how StrikerS was handled. Instead of making some skilled enemies the heroines got de-powered by limiters and AMF.

>>149428883
More like ignorance, either way you keep failing to provide evidence. You can't and shouldn't expect people to take you seriously, especially here when trolls trolling is a regular occurrence.

And what about Miura defeating Vivio in Vivid? Even in Strike! Miura held a higher rank in the last U-15. There is no inconsistency there. Rinne beating Miura when she has a higher rank isn't inconsistent too. And Miura jobbing is debatable and still that doesn't indicate inconsistencies at all.

>Rinne beats Miura
This show is so fucking retarded, it's so fucking dumb. Like, it's baffling.
She's probably going to beat Vivio as well because Rinne is stronger than Belkan kings for reasons.

People still shit on Force after watching this? This is the worst form of Tsuzuki ejaculation we've ever got and we're only about halfway through. Just fucking kill the franchise already.

>>149429127
My bad

>>149429191
A skilled fighter is better than a strong person, thats how Miura won her first fight against Vivio.
Lets not forget Rinne not only is talented but also has done nothing but train every time she is on screen.

>>149429629
Miura defeating Vivio was the fucking evidence, you nicompoopous idiot.

How is Miura even going to recover? Her bones have been pulverized, not just broken.

>>149429630
She's probably going to beat Vivio as well because Vivio is shit

>>149429692
>Miura defeating Vivio
Did you even read the whole post? There's literally no inconsistencies.

>>149429630
If Rinne beats Vivio, it will completely subvert the message that her character is allegedly based on, that Talent is stronger than Training. Vivio's not exactly skimping on either, even though she's not geared for strike arts, but she should definitely have more raw power than Rinne.

If Rinne wins against Vivio it'll have to be because of some completely bullshit reason.

>>149429751
She isn't. She will give up on her career and dedicate the rest of her life to cocking for Fuuka

>>149429751
Tecnomagic healing

>>149429368
Nove was trying to surrender the fight before Miura lost her ribs, Vivio and co were shocked.

>>149429918
Nanoha had to go through months of rehab. No way Miura can simply recover.

>>149429751
>Pulverized, not just broken.
How has Rinne managed to not get DQ'd? If you busted up somebody's bones so bad that they'd have to go through long-term recovery, you'd be lucky if you ever saw the hexagon again.

I mean, you can say "healing magic" as much as you like, but nobody's gonna want to fight somebody that will put them in intensive care 11 times of 5.

>>149429763
Troll confirmed.

>>149429966
>>149429977
And yet NOTHING will come from it. In the end Rinne will be befriended and everything forgiven.
Remember how Fate had to go through a trial? How Hayate took responsibility for the Wolkenritter?

>>149429977
She got away with crushing her opponents heart into dust before, physical injury is easier to heal compared to that.

>>149429990
>Rinne is #1
>Miura is #5
>Vivio is #7
You're the one trolling, troll.

>>149429971
Because her linker cored was destroyed... she wasn't simply wounded

>>149430142
>taking your shitty fanfic ranking seriously.
end your life.

This is "waaah why are the StrikerS characters able to fight even with muh NanoFate" all over again.

The Vivids were never invincible. They were strong but plenty of characters introduced were stronger than them (Victoria, Harry, etc. not even counting Sieg).

Now people get upset that Rinne, who has been shown to be strong as fuck is also capable of beating them, just like plenty other characters, when she's fucking RANKED HIGHER than them. It's not based on any rational reason but solely on "REEEE THIS FOREIGN CHARACTER IS BEATING MY WAIFUS", except she's not foreign just because she's new.

When Miura (typical "low talent hard work" character) beat Vivio everyone was going "fuck yeah muh underdog waifu, get fucked vivio".

When Rinne threatens to do the same it's "HOW CAN SHE BEAT MUH HOLY EMPEROR SHE'S SUPPOSED TO BE INVINCIBLE" even though Vivio was never that good.

I can understand that people get mad seeing their favorite characters like Miura job because they're awesome but stop pretending like the powerlevels are suddenly "inconsistent" or something when really you just can't handle that a character you arbitrarily defined as "foreign" is actually strong.

>>149430078
>>149430073
This entire franchise is stupid as fuck when it tries to be anything resembling realistic.

>MMA fights fueled by magical girls that allegedly have protections easily ignore those protections on a routine basis and girls STILL manage to end up in stretchers all the time.
>Mahou Shojou Columbine is given a slap on the wrist and a "just change schools".
>CHOKING YOUR ALLEGED FRIEND in front of LITERALLY EVERYONE that could stop you is not only not punished, but nobody even RESPONDS.
>Rinne will STILL be "befriended" instead of being institutionalized.

If the rest of Nanoha is anything NEAR like this then the entire franchise is garbage. I've been reading ViVid and it's nowhere near this retarded on a regular basis.

The shitposters were right. Strike is stupid.

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>>149430073
Whatever this little shit is doing, she's doing it legally. Fuck Rinne you're a fucking monster. And fuck you too Jill, to hell with your 'Rinne a prodigy that only appear once every hundred years'. You're raising fucking hell spawn.

>>149429977
Didn't all of her opponents ended in the hospital?

>>149430073
And yet NOTHING will come from it. Mid's justice system is rigged as fuck

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>>149430197
>shitty fanfic
>end your life
I see you dropped trying to sound serious, intelligent, and logical. Classy troll.

>>149430078
>She got away with crushing her opponents heart into dust before
W-what? when did this happened?

>>149430264
Because Miura was a friendly, fun character while Rinne is a huge bitch who chokes her best friends and tries to murder people. Do you see the difference?

I'm not bothered about Miura losing as much as I am that Hayate is not immediately on the field by her side like she would normally be if this happened literally in any ViviD story.

I think Fuuka will lose pathetically to Rinne but she'll pull a "never give up" thing that's going to seriously emotionally shake Rinne. I could see her just surrendering there, or otherwise she'll get BTFO by the Hegemon.

>>149430342
I meant her shit talk, not that she actually crushed her opponent's beating heart.

>>149430264
I'm pissed because there is ZERO reason for any system with actual thought put into it would let Rinne anywhere near any situation where she could throw a punch.

The girl should be under constant sedatives and anyone that would give her violent thoughts put as far away from her as possible.

You don't give aggressive talent with a poor mental state a way to "vent" that talent, you give them a better mental state.

Everyone in this series is retarded.

>>149430402
Sasuga Fuuka. Truly the punching bag of the series.

>>149429971
Nanoha's linker core was permanent damaged. How the fuck can you forget that significant detail. Physical injuries and broken bones are easy to heal, although the more extensive damage will take longer time to heal.

>>149430142
Vivio defeated Rinne though.

>>149430464
I am now imagining hobo Fuuka holding up a sign that reads "Beat me up for 20$"

>>149430458
You know nothing about boxing and martial arts, do you?

>>149430332
The moment you started dissing out arguments and evidence you lost your image of sounding seriouns, intelligent and even less logical.
This anime is shit, i can see no way you could be defending it if not by a troll or an individual with a very shit taste.

>>149430264
By that logic, Signum jobbing in Force is completely fine yet no one arise complain when it treated as a negative point.
This almost exactly the same.

>>149430472
Even Hayate had to spend some time in bed from a simple stabbing wound. And she has fucking super healing powers.

>>149430484
And? Vivio made it sound like she won by technicality. Rinne still made it to the 1st rank and Vivio only reached the 7th rank.

>>149430585
Hayate got stabbed by a OP loli enemy leader. The damage is on a whole other level. But bed rest is nothing and is done to recover her strength more than it is to heal and close up the wound.

>>149430533
You know nothing about teenage psychology, do you?

And yes, I do know about martial arts practices. Anywhere that isn't some strip mall Burger dojo will instill philosophy along with their martial arts, which includes WHEN and HOW it is acceptable to use them, ESPECIALLY if that dojo/dojang caters to kids and teens.

There is a reason we don't put 12-year-olds in highly-dangerous MMA combat IRL, and it's not because we don't have healing magic.

>>149430597
>Defeated opponent gets no.1 while the winner no.7

Even vivid strike own logic is stupid.

>>149430519
Fuuka a ドM. Now that explains everything. Fuuka is the blue oni to Rinne's red oni, literally, she's the only one that can quench Rinne's thirst for violence.

>>149430562
No, because Signum/Nanoha/Fate were always shown to be the strongest of the strong, so much that in StrikerS the villains avoided direct confrontation because they were very obviously outmatched. So a character suddenly showing up that can beat them actually IS bullshit, unlike in Vivid, where the characters ARE NOT the strongest, so someone capable of beating them is 100% plausible.

>>149430561
>criticizing bad arguments and lack of evidence is bad
Do you know how stupid you sound? I doubt it. A troll wouldn't care after all.
>I don't like it so it's shit and you trying to prove my dumb arguments and BS claims wrong hurts my feelings
Well, at least you're done.

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Remember lads, Nanoha powerlevel is bullshit.

>>149430680
That's not stupid. You see it in card games all the time.

Hell, at the last YGO worlds tournament, the world champion went 1-2-0 to a weird rogue deck in the first round, but ended up winning the entire tournament because he went 2-0 or 2-1 in every other match.

Points are more important than actual match outcomes. If Vivio only won by a single point, then it's probably likely that a lot of her other victories followed a similar line.

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>>149430402
They better do it that way or have Fuka win using pure heart. Rinne has talent and years of hard work if Fuka wins because she was better with only a couple months of training it would prove Rinne's coach right about talent always being better than hard work. If the fight isn't Fuka taking everything Rinne can give her and still standing proud at the end VS will offically be shit.

>>149430783
Literally i gave you evidence and there's no way my arguments were bad, you were arbitrarily discarding them or judging it.

>>149430901
>Miura defeating Vivio
This is your main argument and it provided no insight and reasoning why you cry inconsistency. if you want to be taken seriously then stop sicking around and explain yourself.

>>149430675
Most professional fighters have a background of street fights and violent behaviour because thats literally the only kind of people dumb enough to get contusions for a living.

>>149430973
How it does not provide insight?

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>>149430869
Fuuka is going for the tank route. Reminder that last episode she was wondering about how heavy a serious hit by Rinne is and how she is gonna become someone who can take all of that. Also, since Huracan is specialized in defensive and recovery magic like Teo, we are going to get a scenario where Rinne beats Fuuka to a bloody pulp and the later would just recover and stand up again and again.

>>149431066
>Miura beat Vivio in Vivid
>Miura has a higher rank than Vivio in Strike!
And where's the consistences? Stop dicking around and give a straight answer instead of answering with a question.

>>149431179
It was an actual question.

>>149431160
I could bet money on Fuuka saying something to the effect of "I'm going to let you keep beating me up until your mean face is gone"

>>149431179
>Vivio defeats Rinne
>Rinne is no.1 and vivio is no.7
>Consistent

HA!

>>149431160
Hope they don't show that plush toy suffering as it tanks Fuuka's damage. That will be too over the line.

>>149431011
Your point is valid, but unrelated to the point I made.

The premise is retarded if taken to any realistic measure. It only works if the world it's operating in isn't realistic in the slightest.

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>>149430680
More like you're being dumb and inflexible to how tournament scores and seeding words. Rinne debuted a year and a half ago and won every match she was in except one, which was against Vivio. So that's 58 wins and 1 loss by the time of episode 1.

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What's actually cheap is that Miura had already two downs and the upper hand during the whole battle without activating her power-up, then suddenly Rinne became able to defeat her through bullshit, this despite Miura activating her power-up.

>>149431318
All while everybody in the audience laughs at her

>>149431285
>Still doing that
I gave you a last chance and you didn't take it. Oh wells for you.

>>149431327
See >>149431392

>>149430854
Using YGO as an example is not a great idea, people are always mad that Joey didn't defeat Marik due to shitty excuse.

>>149431453

>>149431327
See >>149431363*

>>149431453
>Avoids question.
okay.

>>149431459
IRL isn't the anime.

>>149431336
It really isn't. Jill's gym trains professional athletes under the idea that talent is everything and Rinne's background is not unrealistic in this context.

>>149431392
They repeatedly say that Rinne's strikes are very powerful. One hit is all she need to shake Miura up and start gaining advantage. Of course if she used grappling since the very beginning the fight would be very different.

>>149431528
Too bad that isn't what happened. I put your argument in context to show zero inconsistencies and still you act retarded. I'm the one who has been repeatedly questioning you and demanded you to make arguments to explain your incomplete reasoning. All you do is avoid them by playing dumb and retort back with a question.

>>149431630
It's not about her attacks, it's about the fact that she able to shrug off Bakken like it's nothing, which makes no sense.

>>149431653
In the context what we are talking about, it really doesn't.

>>149424122
Probably Miura's left lung exploded.

>>149431693
According to Jill Rinne just used her powerful built and train like mad for defense so she can take hits. That one is pretty bullshit because it only appear in this episode but still makes sense I guess.

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>>149431693
Not shrugged, she blocked it with her superhuman strength on top of being reinforcing her body with magic.

>>149431630
And Miura kicks aren't?
Are you seriously saying Miura Bakken, which is a fucking Breaker spell, is not stronger than simple punches?
What's worst, Miura had shaken Rinne before with much less but somehow this did nothing.

>>149431392
What's the power-up even do? Speed boosts and power ups in games tend to throw people off (especially in racing and fighting games), because it throws off your typical placement and timing ability.

You can actually end up being WORSE with the power up than you were without it if you're a skilled player.

>>149428843
WE NANOHA NOW

>>149424122
She...she will be fine, right?

>>149431765
PLEASE NO!

>>149432079
It's probably just simulation data.

>>149431957
Breaker is useful for breaking magic, if Rinne is still strong without magic then Breaker is useless against her. And yeah that part is pretty bullshit but considering Rinne was unfazed through the first two DOWN maybe those attacks were far less effective than it seems.

>>149432170
It's real anon, she is fucked

>>149431742
Sure, Miura being consistency established as being ahead of Vivio in both series somehow creates an inconsistency somehow just because you say so. Totally.

>>149431922
I don't care if they say she trained to be a tank, Bakken is the strongest offensive shit we've seen outside of Sieg's attacks. Literally doing 23k damage in a simulation where people have 15k life iirc.

It makes pretty much no sense that you can flat out block it.

>>149432079
It's nothing magic can't fixed.

>>149432235
No because i say so, but because it is in the series.

>>149432335
Nah but you see Rinne's secretly a genius and capable of making Shinkirou-style barriers that perfectly block anything.

Either that or Rinne is the PC version of a Lv 9 CPU in Sm4sh.

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>>149432346
>it is in the series
Sure it is.

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>>149432456

>>149432214
I think it's more likely there wasn't enough ambient magic to absorb and her own output didn't deal enough damage.

The only time she one-shot somebody was against Micaiah and she had dropped all her defenses prior to that.

>>149432335
>Bakken is the strongest offensive shit we've seen outside of Sieg's attacks. Literally doing 23k damage in a simulation where people have 15k life iirc.
Bakke is the strongest when used at the end of a fight where a high number of magic spells are used because like Starlight Breaker, it gathers all the scattering around magical energy to the user. In a martial arts fight where magic is only used for enhancing attacks and defense, I doubt there is that much magical energy on the field at all so it makes sense that Bakken in this fight is not as strong as the Bakken used in the Intermiddle.

>>149432218
Don't fuck with me!

>>149432340
I hope so.

>>149432335
Thing is, we don't know how strong it would be against opponents who guards against it. Miura landed her bakken ultimate twice so far against Vivio and Micaiah. In both cases, neither was able to put up a defensive guard to block it, they took the full attack with their bodies.

>>149432632
That could be it, yeah.

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>antagonist beats the whole party to prove she's strong
Jesus christ this is Dragon Ball tier writing. What the fuck is this show even.

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>I'm 14 years old, the same age as Einhart-san
And I thought you guys were 13. Still,
>raising all those death flags before AND during the fight
You only have yourself to blame, Miura.

>>149432839
I don't know why I have to remind people that a Breaker is a very specific type of spell every time a discussion about it comes up. It's one of the few things that actually has a description of the mechanics in the anime.

>>149432873
I know you're baiting but still
>1 people is the whole party

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>>149432079

>>149432894
>train under Vita
>only lose to current champion
>train under Nove
>lose to literally who
I blame someone else.

>>149432978
Let us be sincere, everyone who crosses Rinne's path is going to be BTFO, unless the plot demands otherwise

>>149430869
>Strike
>not already officially shit

If you didn't realize that this show would be like this by Episode 4, then you're slow.

>>149431981
It is not just a speed and power up, the attack itself is destructive as fuck, not something you can defend against with one arm as Rinne did.

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>>149432894
She did it to rise some Fuuka flags
I say it was worth it