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What do you think about another laid back episode of Flip Flappers?
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What did they mean by this?
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butt
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>>149347746
Do you think it's Papika there in the OP?
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delet
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>>149347781
straight and smooth
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>>149347781
>hey cocona, can I put this in your butt?
>no
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This is gonna be one of those shows where all the really interesting mysteries don't pay off.
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use >>149347690
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Did she speculah about her own job?
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>>149348060
>leg down
>arm up

Is that log of Papika's activities?
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>>149348014
No
>>149348060
>literally ripped off wikipedia
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To the rescue
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>>149347698
this anime is tryhard
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>>149348396
Wasn't there one or two that ripped off from some unix/linux text in other anime?
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>>149347698

flip flappers is good for my soul
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>>149347698
I don't need it. Episode 4 was enough of that. Glad that it's back in force in episode 5.
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>>149353447
I want Sayuri to be my gf.
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Yayaka ass is beautiful.
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>>149347698
Glad that there's a show that can make /a/ think again. The theories are pretty fun and there are a lot of hidden stuff speedwatchers will easily miss.
Only problem is how the yuri vs het war keeps threatening to derail the threads almost as soon as they start out.
Kokona is an interesting MC, the way the show handles her is fresh and that they don't spell things out for us keeps it engaging. Papika's character is a bit more of a wildcard. It feels like she may not have a moral compass or something like that. We'll see how she reacts if Kokona ever goes "bust".
I get the feeling that Salt is going to end turn out to be like Gendou with his motives. The shot with him in the OP points to some personal motive and might also indicate why he doesn't talk too much.
"Girl meets girl" is an interesting tag for the show but it may be oversimplifying the plot so it's right in our face or maybe it's Engrish for a girl facing herself? They're collecting shards and once the shards are all together, we might find out that Mimi is the girl who is imagining all the world that we see in her head and the entire show is her rehabilitation.
Each episode has to be viewed more than once, if we are to actually understand everything that goes on in it. A lot of things will easily be missed and later we would regret not catching it before we are spoonfed a foreshadowing or a reference.
Newfags will see nothing but another style over substance mahou shoujo anime and dismiss it as nothing big but this will probably renew interest in psychedelic mysteries.
Yayaka's character is probably a red herring to throw the detectives off Papika's true nature. Hopefully the show doesn't go full grimderp on us and can keep up the quality of storytelling it has maintained so far.
Overall, I believe that it might be the saviour were actually waiting for.
Usually, I would go on but read the first letter of all the lines. So I should stop.
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Is there one for this episode already?
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>>149353966
Motherfucker

I'm out
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>>149353966
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I'm finally home, now I can post cute Flip Flaps
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>>149354124
I can hear it without anything being said now.
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>>149353966
I have "force long post to wrap" checked so it's a little off but I see what you did. Good post otherwise
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Papika s smart! SMART!
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>>149354227
YAMEROOOO
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>>149354264
She's resourceful, not smart. Smart is Kokona, but she isn't resourceful.
>PPK is resourceful
>KKN is smart
>YYK is bold
Dr. Salt is collecting girls with different strengths to make the perfect little girl. Flip Flappers is a long prologue to Powerpuff Girls.
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Senpai will be FF's secret weapon against blue hair loli.
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Just posting in here to annoy IP counting shiptoasters.
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>>149354349
here's a theory >>149354407
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This episode, Cocona was framed by a soft aperture rather than a spiky one. It's notable because she's never actually framed by a spiky aperture this episode, for the first time. This is as close as they get (as far as I can tell, please post a screencap if I'm wrong).

I think this is carrying over the imagery from the butt-tube in episode 4. If you recall, that scene had Cocona looking into the pipe, framed by the jaggy edges of the grassy stuck to the pipe, then reversed to her perspective into the pipe, in which Papika was framed by a soft aperture of goatse pillows.

Cocona crossing over onto Papika's side seems to have been a symbolic crossing from the state of mind that was represented by the inwardly-pointing spikes, to a different one, now represented by smooth edges.

I think this is supposed to be suggesting a change in attitude. Where Cocona was previously introverted and guarded, as though she was withdrawing herself from contact with the world (withdrawing from the sharp edges all around her, afraid to be hurt), she's begun to open up and embrace the world -as represented by her willingness to go to PI for the sake of enjoyment- and embrace interpersonal relationships, particularly with Papika.

In other words, this is a representation of her gradual growth as a character
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>>149354387
There's no K in Cocona.
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>>149354050
Posted last thread
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>>149354448
>senpai is a massive perv
This is getting too spoopy
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>>149353550
Fuck off, she's mine.
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Why did she stop him when he was about to say plugi-
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>>149354542
Take note of her scarf/bow color too
oh man
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>>149354556
Plugsuit
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>>149354571
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>>149354556
She's putting it in simple terms that even a Papikana would understand.
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Lewd
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Scared Cocona is cutest Cocona
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>>149354500
there were better shots in that episode imo

Especially the bottom right and bottom middle should be replaced
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I think it's neat Bu-chan does dowsing instead of popping a radar dish out or something
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>>149354644
Didn't make it, do try to improve it with any shots you think is better
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>>149354644
Bottom middle should be one of the straight shots up the clocktower, I think. I like bottom right, though
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>>149354630
>nice to animals
Yakisoba is a good girl.
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>>149354676
Yakisaba dessho?
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>>149354449
This is so good I will now take it as canon.
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>>149354630
Retarded childish characters are probably the worst trope for me.
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>>149353966
ごきげんよう
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>>149353966
Mobile view is pretty shit, what does it say?
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>Yayaka gives them a smug Gokigenyou as soon as they enter the PI
>Cocona calls her out on the goofy uniform
>she immediately runs off in embarrassment.
Yayaka is pretty cute sometimes.
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>>149354778
gokigenyou
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>>149353966
Why spell it out? baka

Also I don't think this show will have a "pull the curtain" kind of moment with a groundbreaking revelation that affects everything in the show, like "it's all in Mimi's head", "Cocona was imagining everything" or something Madoka-like. It might have a couple of twists, but I feel like if it does it'll all be contained within the fairly simple story framework we've been set up with by now
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>>149350928
>pretending to read

the spine says "zukan" - picture book.
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>>149354812
gokigenyou, onee-sama
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>>149347781
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Wonder how many loops it would've taken until sex.
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>>149354394
If they were in the loop for about 8 more times, they'd be flip flapping their flip flaps together.
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>>149354784
I'd say there's something behind this. I think Yayaka was actually being carried away by the place but woke up when she got told by the girls about the uniform. I'm prreetty sure she never said "Gokigenyou" so far.
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>>149354833
Man, I love the attention to detail in this show.

I really do wonder if Papika just has a low literacy level, or if she's actually illiterate.
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>>149354833
The spooky lesbos are so nice, having picture books available for the special ed students.
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>>149354644
As what >>149354673 said, I really like this shot of the clocktower from the last thread >>149354346 and it deserves a grid
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>>149354833
ha. I didn't even notice.
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>>149354868
Not many, that's sure. She was letting her lick her finger by the end of the loops we saw.
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>>149354833
She is the cutest thing
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>>149354893
I thought they mentioned offhand that Pipiko was joining in school tests and such. She has to be able to read.
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>>149354868
Papika was jumping at the chance to put Cocona's fingers in her wet hole and Cocona was clearly into the whole ordeal, much more than she would admit. Things would have traveled south of that in only another loop or two
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>>149354893
Would you stop replying to yourself, !Yayaka?
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>>149354943
Joining doesn't equal actually passing the tests
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the inside of the clock tower reminded me of utena for some reason.
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>>149354833
For some reason I thought zukan meant encyclopedia, so I thought she was just pretending to be smart.
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Why do little worms disgust her so much? Is this a metaphor for something, perhaps?
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>>149354932
ASCLEPIUS
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>>149355019
She was thinking about Papika in that moment
The forbidden fruit is being eaten out
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>>149354886
She could just have been making a smug joke about the world. But it could be. It's hard to understand why the KKK faction took so many loops to say fuck it and go find the fragment, anyway.
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The other thread got fucking awful, shit.
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>>149354833
Adorable.
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What is Bu's eye saying here?
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>>149354868
They were already sleeping together before Yakisoba intervened.
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>>149354893
it doesn't mean just "picture book for children", it's more like "illustrated encyclopedia" or any illustrated book really.
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>>149355079
shh
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>>149354886
The fact that she was in the uniform means that she's already been taken by the Gokigynoids. She's probably heard that phrase enough times to be sick of it by now, hence she was likely just making a bit of a joke in using it to greet them.

The fact that Yayaka knew about the 12th hour time limit means that she very likely had been searching for a way out of the loop before Cocona and Papika arrived.
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>>149355023
What would it be foreshadowing? Their existence? We already know they exist.
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>>149355111
It's the kanji for reading
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>>149354833
>If I take the biggest book, it means I'm the smartest!
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>>149355111
Yomu - to read
https://nihongoichiban.com/2011/04/10/jlpt-kanji-%E8%AA%AD/
>mfw I could read that
Powerlevel increasing with no explanations.
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>>149354886
Nice catch. Her expression shifts from surprise to irritation to her usual stony arrogance in an instant.
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I'm sorry for being late, life gets in the way sometimes.
Anyway

This episode was pretty easy on the Coconut/Parpika count

>C: 12
>P: 17
Yayaka actually barely eeked out ahead of Cocona with 13

Total:
>C: 112+3
>P: 73
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The way Cocona says Papika's name here was priceless
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>>149355196
Really nice.
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>>149355075
I under the impression they were attempting to get the the fragment in every loop which explains the absence of the twins and Yayaka for most of the loops until the last one where Papika found the shortcut.
But until Cocona rang the bell, they likely failed because reasons
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>>149355203
Holy shit the quality on that photo is bad.
I either need a better phone or to straight up scan the page next time
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>>149355075
What's interesting is that Yayaka didn't cross the "border" at first and then showed up inside the room afterwards.
She's most likely just a softie who held the operation on standby until the girls are out. Or perhaps they wouldn't have been able to carry out the operation as long as the girls are trapped.
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This episode was pretty shitty, considering the previous ones.
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>>149354451
There's no C in Nipspeak.
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>>149355203
I wonder if we will get a death scene in which someone's name will kept being repeated.
The score would go out of the charts.
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>>149355203
What are you counting?
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>>149355196
I think she was just embarrassed about the uniform. For all her tough kid attitude, she's still Cocona's friend, and still a middleschool girl.

If she had been enthralled by the school then she wouldn't have been able to discover things like the 11 bong time limit
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>>149354669
replaced those two, I think those are a bit more fitting to the overall theme of the show
>>149354916
would be nice, but doesn't really work outside of the stitch
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>>149355203
>Y
My sides. She deserves it.
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>>149347698
This episode is pretty scary and i hate that ungodly noise the black girls make.
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>>149355196
Tsun!
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>>149355371
Not a fan of the bottom middle one. I feel like that shot only really works in sequence with the shots leading up to it. By itself it loses that context and isn't as spectacular.
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>>149355371
Great work. Not sure if I'm the only who feels it but the Sayuri grid feels oddly out of place, do you think it complements the other grids?
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Is there a webm of the Gokigynoids clapping?
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>>149355393
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>>149355468
see >>149347820
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Why was it raining blood (?)
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>>149355468
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>>149347698
it's gonna end bad, isn't it?
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>>149355371
I feel like this should be in there
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>>149355545
They tried to cheat.
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>>149355493
ゴki嫌よう
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>>149355545
It's menstrual blood, clearly someone had their first period
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>>149355452
yeah I had one where they stood further back before but I wasn't quite sure

Another nice one imo was where they collapsed on the roof
>>149355454
I like the transition from the happy into the dark theme
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Is waiting for GJM worth it?
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>>149355605
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>>149355545
Bcecause it's metal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8ZqFlw6hYg
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>>149355621
Not really, it's only a slightly edited version of the CR one anyway. Maybe worth it for the archival.
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>>149355621
no just rewatch when they release. You'll miss the threads otherwise or at least not understand much
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>>149355313
How about you actually watch the show, eh?
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>>149355633
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>>149355545
The blood itself symbolized menstruation, but its oppressive, omnipresent nature was meant to symbolize how ominous, alien and confining adolescent school life can be. They were essentially trapped in the school by puberty and that constant deluge was an inescapable presence that defined the entire atmosphere of their internment.
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pottery
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>>149355557
flap flap flap for you
flapping quickly is preferred here
fastflap.gif

etc
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>>149355371
This >>149355589
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>she sees your dick
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Hand on top off the creambox.
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>>149355690
So what would you call the finger sucking?
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>>149355493
The E3 part really spooked me.
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>>149355693
American ghosts was the filename I had beforehand
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>>149355371
What about this?
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>>149355757
>ameriflaps
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>>149355690
Both of my daughters can have fun even in spooky schools! I love my two sweet daughters.
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>>149355677
Go back to your Alien 9 threads.
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>>149355693
>download file
>name it whatever you want
Its not like the filename is permanent.
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This episode was too fucking creepy.
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>>149355646
Sounds like the kind of guitar solo Papika would play.
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>>149355589
>>149355704
certainly worth considering, the only thing bothering me is the low details in Cocona and Papika though
>>149355773
also decent. Feels like this show just has too many good shots
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>>149347781
>What did they mean by this?

It's dangerous to go alone
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>>149355843
I really like the concept in both.

>Feels like this show just has too many good shots
pretty much
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Not like it's super suprising, but the cannon was able to disrupt Pupiko's bubble. Loli wasn't shooting at the hands, she was shooting right at her, although perhaps she was shooting to break the bubble so the part the hands were stuck to would fall off.
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>>149355845
>this is nice reminder of what happens when you keep making threads when there is nothing to talk about
Yeah, nothing such as a new episode that got released today.
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>>149355773
>If you're not going to join then you can leave
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>>149355856
Couldn't help but hear "hitori ja dame" in Cocona's voice, fuck you.
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>>149355914
Who is this spunk trunk?
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>>149355914
you shouldn't reply to posts in dead threads
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Containment thread just died, get ready.
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>>149353298
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>>149355914
And yet there is a striking lack of substantial discussion. Now, is the a fault of the show, the fanbase, or both?
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>>149355965
Last post snipers are annoying and my autism couldn't let a post that dumb go by unnoticed.
Now back to killing myself.
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>>149347781
>no doujins of Papika stroking a shota's (preferably a genderbent Cocona) smooth and tiny penis while being unaware of her lewd actions
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So the whole deal with the PI influencing them to be more "dokidoki" was also supposed to be a puberty metaphor, right?

Or was it suggesting that some aspects of teenage life are forced upon us by our environment and not necessarily a part of the change in our bodies as they are a part of the change in the context around us? Where the girls becoming more ladylike, more demure and well-mannered, more complacent in their daily routine and more sensitive to token displays of intimacy because this is how the physiological influence of growing up affects them, or because a social environment was foisting it upon them without them even being completely aware of it, lulled into a new identity almost without noticing.
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I want to fuck her
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>>149356019
From what I see, its just a couple of people shitting up the threads
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>>149355965
Why not? Discussion doesn't just start and end in the current containment thread, you retarded generalfag.
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>>149356076
But Yuyu would get jealous
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>>149356076
She has a nice A.S.S.
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>>149356058
>shota
Die please.
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>>149356056
If you die you can't enjoy anime
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She just wants to put her finger in Papika's mouth again, doesn't she?
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>>149356019
There are just too many people pointing out obvious shit, asking questions with answers that are either directly in the show or 2 thoughts away, or just speculating wildly based on nothing but their imagination.
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>>149356081
>Smaller
>229 KB
Why? The benefit of webm is you don't have to go smaller or reduce bitrate compared to shitty gifs.
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>>149356099
treating all threads that have the same topic as chatrooms that happen to be cut into 600-post segments is silly
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This episode was literally too spooky.

What stupid fucking retard thought horror and yuri went well together?
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So how likely is it that we're going to see a full blown kissu by the last episode?
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>>149356145
How do Cocona's fingertips taste?
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>>149355371
for the end?
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>>149356184
Cocona is already begging for it.
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>>149356182
>What stupid fucking retard thought horror and yuri went well together?
You can't have lesbians without horror tho.
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>>149356167
Webms that are too big break the layout a little and make posts hard to read.
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>>149356184
honestly i wouldn't be surprised. but it would also be unsurprising if it ends up as merely subtext.
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>>149356182
Ever heard of the suspension bridge effect?
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>>149356184
I'll drop it if that happens.
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>>149356019
Fuck off. The threads are perfect when some idiots don't start metaposting. I only started speaking about Nanoka in the other thread because it's was about to die.

>>149356070
It's not about metaphor, it's about girls being forcefully brought to their "yuri" life by having close and prolonged contact with girls, like you said. Except that it was visibly starting to have an impact on Cocona.
Shit happens as well in all-girls/all-boys schools where adolescence starts to show up. People just don't say it.
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I just don't understand
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>>149356184
Twin drive Papikana transformation will feature on-screen docking tribadism.
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>>149356226
>phoneposters
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>>149356231
Not him, but what's that?
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After rewatching the episode, it seems apparent that Yayaka was in fact caught hook, line and sinker by the PI until Cocona and Papika show up.

I thought originally that she must have been searching the PI beforehand in order to have known its rules, but the several loops that CCN and PPK go through prior to YYK making contact with them gives her plenty of time to have done some sleuthing herself.
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I just wanna flip all the flaps.
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>>149356226
>embedding webms
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>>149356261
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How do we fix Flip Flappers?
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>>149356203
Should use some brightness but otherwise I agree with this
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>>149356241
I wish I could drop you right now.
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>>149356249
I think stopping at yuri and at yuri manga references is a bit too hasty considering there was clearly more going on with the school and the time loop with regards to how it reflects on the characters
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>>149356203
wanted to include this one but unfortunately it's the anti-seizure TV version so it's quite dark
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>>149356261
Just what agenda is this show trying to push, exactly?
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>>149356340
Make her the main girl.
There fixed.
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>>149356330
*record scratch*
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>>149356340
This shot makes me realize how much this show misses titty monsters.
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>>149356340
You don't fix something that isn't broken, baka.
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>>149356382
breasts were a mistake, they're nothing but garbage
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>>149356340
More butts.
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>>149356382
Why do you want to make the show worse?
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>>149356340
Make more episodes like 3 and 5.
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>>149356382
You have Occultits;Nine for that.
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>>149356340
why does every girl in this show have zero breasts?
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>>149356350
he took the screenshot too early. it slowly gets brighter
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>>149356382
They should take note from AOTS.
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He has yuri on the brain
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>>149356423
The last episode will feature a grown Cocona and Papika, and both of them will have big knockers.
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>>149356469
Because it's everything anime should be
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>>149356505
Occultic;Hacks is only amusing thanks to that titty monster.
Everything else has been boring so far.
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>>149356530
>my opinion is fact
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>>149356570
>who are you quoting
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I just realized that the operative number this episode is 12
12 o clock, midnight, was when the world reset
The door to the 12th room was missing
The 12th hour on Cocona's watch was gone
The bell needed its 12th ring

Kids are 12 years old when they begin their 2nd year of middleschool
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>>149356570
I'm glad you're catching on.
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>>149356637
No they aren't.
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>>149356637
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>Buu had a seifuku
That's adorable
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>>149356637
Its like a fairytale thing. 3, 7, 12 are all numers used a lot in old tellings.
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How do we fix this triangle?
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>>149356760
I'll take Yayaka for myself. Then it won't be a triangle any more.
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All things considered, 'real' might not have been the best choice of words here
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>>149356760
the composition in that shot has no unresolved triangles, so I don't see what the problem is
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>>149356805
YYK is pure you shit kicker.
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>>149356899
Yeah, pure sex.
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>>149356637
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>>149356899
>shit kicker
I want to fuck YYK, not kick her.
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>>149356712
It literally is. 2nd year middleschool for the japanese is 12-13
12-13 is also the average time for a girl to begin puberty, it's roughly the range when you can expect the first period.

Midnight on the clock was another puberty symbol.
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ZA WARUDO
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>>149356805
>>149356847
>>149356998
Not love triangle. PPK's triangle mouf.

First (you)!
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>>149356998
She's just tsun tsun now that Papika saved her.
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>>149355340
CP
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Would you protect this tummy?
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Sekko Boys reference? 3Hz confirmed for bros
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>>149357085
Oh. Well, I guess I could throw Yayaka at her.
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>>149356899
Pure Delusion, mate.
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>>149357053
It's 13-14
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>>149357085
>>149357090
Are you seriously replying to him? Does /a/ never learn?
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>>149355371
You missed a spot between right middle and right bottom
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>>149357116
A E S T H E T I C S
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>>149357154
That's 3rd year.
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>>149357107
From what? Is someone threatening her tummy?
>>
Damn, the Flowers references were off the chart this episode.
I hope they pull an Aki-hen last episode
>>
This moment right here was priceless. Perfect comedic timing .
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>>149357179
Did I fall for bait or do you have a reason for not trying to check?
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http://youtu.be/PDEI_lUYyQw !
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>>149357085
Please, no.
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>>149357202
>that flat "Eh."

And I thought Papika was throwing her onto the stairs. Priceless.
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>>149356211
>cocona bracing for it
Cute!
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>>149357202
And they did the cheesy Looney Tunes falling sound effect too.
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>>149357202
Why do try to list elements of the episode that were great when it was great from start to finish?
Seriously, EOTY.
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>>149354131
>le sudden anal face
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>Bu-chan wishes to be the little girl

I love him, I can't remember the last time a non-human sidekick was as cute as Bu-chan
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>>149354833
Isn't that what the cover says too?
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>>149356308
Mostly a problem of not having a fullHD screen.
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>>149357548
It is.
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>>149357472
Cokowai
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>>149357502
He even had a skirt in the end, right?
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>>149357502
Is he literally our guy?
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>>149357548
Yes, it's Zukan, aka. picture book.
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>>149357608
He was wearing a full uniform during the scene where they were running down the hall towards the clocktower, but didn't have it in the very next shot. I think it was just a cute continuity error
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>>149357607
PI Version
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>>149357502
This year's Precure's mascot and sidekick are both fucking cute. First time I actively like these obligatory critters, as opposed to just tolerating.
>>
SHINE GET
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>>149357180
I am.
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>>149357502
>two female symbols crossing
It's not just about "wanting to be a girl" at this point.
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>>149357502
So Bu-chan is pretty much supposed to be /a/, right?
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>>149357643
given how well thought out everything in this show is, i assume it was just them trying to make him wear a skirt somehow and that was the only shot they could make that look good, so they said "fuck it".
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>>149357502
I love the noises he makes.
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>>149357502
I think hes pretty creepy.
>>
OK, I know I'm late to the party, but am I missing something?
What happened after they got off the island?
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>>149356637
>I just realized
Are you fucking stupid?
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>>149356211
The yuri brainwashing timeloop really got to her
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>>149357738
They battled Yayaka's team for more shinies and got beating in two more PIs.
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>>149357738
They got sucked into a PI. You see stills how Yayaka beat them to it.
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>>149357275
Flip Flappers feat. some shows here and there.
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>>149357081
What actually happened in this bit? It didn't make any sense to me even with later context.
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>>149357738
did you even watch episode 4
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>>149357699
yes
>>
>dark, dark and shady previews
>afraid that the episode is going to be a boring horror thing
>it's actually absolutely fucking insane
I love this show.
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>>149357781
They entered the loop?
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>>149357726
see >>149357699

Also, they literally stuck lillies into his brain D:
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>when papika threw cocona
>downwards
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>>149357686
Yeah, that felt very video-gamey, I thought Legend of Zelda when I saw that.
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>>149356637
They're 13 when they begin second year.

Depending on birthday most are 12 at the end of 6th year of grade school and 13 by the end of first year middle school.
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>>149357726
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>>149357738
They went to an illusion, which we got one frame of at the beginning of this one. I'd rather if they'd left it out to be honest. Just gone straight from episode 3 to episode 5 with no explanation.
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>>149357824
Oh god I didn't get a good look at that when I watched the episode
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>>149357781
They went into the other building.
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>>149357815
Is that really all?
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>>149357824
>D:
What is this, Gaia in 2004?
>>
She can't keep getting away with this. Cocona needs to slap a bitch for bullying her friend.
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>>149357769
>>149357770
Mini time skip huh? Kind of a let down.
>>149357793
Yes, they got pulled into PI while on the raft and that was the last we saw.
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>>149357898
Yayaka clearly has her reasons. She disliked Papika right from the start and I doubt it is not just because she got beaten to the Cocona bowl.
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>>149356340

more flapping, less flipping
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So much lily/yuri imagery in this episode.
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>>149357852
So they are 12 when they start.
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>>149357923
I don't think it's a letdown, I think it's very clever.

Too many shows insist of showing ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING EVER. Leaving out things and just showing the important stuff makes the whole story and universe much bigger.
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>>149357865
That one is kinda funny to me. It's scary when the ghost girls are saying it, but Bu-chan just get tied up instead.
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>>149357781
That was the moment they became ensnared by the loop.
You see in the moments before, but they're approaching a part of the building that doesn't exist in the real-world version. It's the school dormitory that only exists in PI. Once they take the step into that building (the transition between tile floor to old-fashioned wood), they entered the loop.
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C0ngr4tul4710n5!
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>>149357898
She can't keep up.
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>>149357957
There's also a lily behind Cocona and Papika in the class.
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>>149356340
Why would you want to fix something that works perfectly?
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>>149357957
Yeah it feels like the writer is trying to tell us something, but I can't quite put my finger in it.
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>>149357898
Yayayayaka is trying to make sure that Papika doesn't have babies in the future.
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>>149357976
12 when they start 1st year, not second.
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>>149358011
HAYAI

Papika is no match for the Chinese Electric Forehead
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>>149357990
I kinda want to stick my dick into one of these spooky cunts.
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>>149357673
Punya!
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Pl3b5
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>>149358043
In all seriousness, she just made the mistake of trying to catch her and panicked when she should have probably used her bubbles.
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>>149358018
There were lilies in the vases, outside the school, in the embroidery, everywhere.
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>>149358043
NOW I'VE FLIPPED IT
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>>149357957
It was half a parody of Marimite/Mariclones, it was to be expected.
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>>149358057
They could probably give one hell of a BJ with those scribbly mouths. Imagine the deep vibrations as that spooky voice box GOKIGENYOUs on your dick
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>>149358094
I KNOW I CAN FLAP
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So Whirlpool is the next stage
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>>149357990
>click gif
>computers locks for a few seconds
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I can't believe I didn't save the halloween Flip Flappers strip.
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>>149358110
don't stick your dick in crazy
even 2d crazy
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What's her endgame?
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>>149355671
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So is Flip Flappers about lesbians?
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What a great episode, love how they keep making each PI is completely different and how much love they put in the little details.
Anyone else getting kinda Myst vibes from this show?
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>>149358147
This one?
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>>149358168
To stop the loop and it was stopped when they took the fragment. She closed her eyes as the world collapsed because she was finally free
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>>149358173
>watched this movie for the first time in a theather in 4k
scary desu
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>>149358187
Nah that would be too obvious
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>>149357852
>6th year
>Grade school
Where I'm from grade school lasts 4 years
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>>149358227
I was thinking about the one Yayaka is a bitch.
I had the idea to post it twice today already but then I remember I just didn't save it.
>>
This episode was Japanese as fuck.

I don't care much about the theorizing that goes on but from just watching the show it's pretty fun.
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>>149357643
>I think it was just a cute continuity error
I don't know, same thing happened here. In the next shot he's back to normal.
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>>149358130
Going by this, then, we should have the metaphorical "witch" introduced next.
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>>149358173
yurifag_discovers_futa.jpg
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So are the Gokigenyous natives of the Pure Illusion or are they other girls who came there but got stuck in the loop?
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>>149358264
12 was missing from the world so they had to give it 12 to get the starite I mean amorphous
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>>149358318
Probably natives like the sand people and bandits. Mostly.
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>the leak was a false leak
>it was actually a trick from the guys to lure us into thinking this episode would be grimdark
>the episode was miles better than I had expected
I'm impressed.
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>>149358290
In that episode Papika started out as a psychedelic blob too, but then gradually went back to normal. Well, normal with rabbit ears.

They just skipped showing that for Bu.
>>
Is that the Legendary Sword?
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>>149358364
What leak?
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>>149358110
I winced and I don't even have a dick
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>>149358387
It's symbolic
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>>149358235
>>149358297
kek
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>>149358387
>It's dangerous to go alone! Take this.
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>>149358387
No, it's Jack's sword.
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>>149357990
FASTER
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>>149358387
We gonna have some motherfucking Harry Potter magic in this shit.
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>>149358399
There was a shot found on the internet of Papika covered in blood (rain scene) and it was taken down very quickly, letting people think Papika was going to die and the show was going to turn grim. I'm fairly sure it was a trick from the show makers.
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>>149358416
>papika has a ring
>cocona has a rod

what does it mean
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>>149358415
What happened to your dick?
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>>149358494
The shot was in the episode.
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>>149357673
Mofurun a shit. A SHIT!
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>>149358506
Anal sex with Cockona.
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>>149358522
Yeah, everyone was speculating the shots were from an episode further down the road.

They were all in episode 5 after all.
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>>149358466
You can go faster than that.
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Is there a DL link for the full OP? Nyaa has nothing.
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>>149358562
I think everyone was speculating that the chase across beanstalks and others that didn't fit a gloomy mood would be from a future episode.
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>>149358205
>fucking fire marble puzzles

You go to hell for reminding me.
>>
Stop having lewd thoughts about the flippy flaps. We shouldn't cherish them THAT way.
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>>149358506
Were you even in the previous thread? It's but officially confirmed that Cocona is the man in the relationship, there are too many hints to this.
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>>149358515
Dunno, think I must have dropped it somewhere in the womb
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>>149358554
>everyone on /a/'s face when making these jokes
>>
So they were shitting on the prestigious onee-sama school trope in yuri, right?
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>>149358627
How can we not, when they are so lewd on their own?
>>
>2-on-1 against Punchloli

Exciting
>>
>>149358673
Invoking it, certainly. I'd call the depiction more neutral than you're suggesting though.
>>
>>149358673
Yes, like they were shitting on Mad Max
>>
I really wish they would tell us how the Pure Illusions work. Like how Yayaka and co keep being in the same ones as them. They don't occur at set times because we have seen then go into them at will, they can occur randomly like at the end of episode 4, they can occur from multiple locations. There just doesn't seem to be a clear pattern to establish any rules.
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>>149358627
They are giving me a hard time not having lewd thoughts.
>>
I hope the people enjoying this show have at least given Precure a chance because it's pretty similar.
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>>149358757
>I hope the people enjoying this show have at least given Precure a chance because it's pretty similar.
Tried Smile Precure a few years ago and didn't really enjoy it apart from the transformations.
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>>149358654
>science man makes lewd jokes
>bu wants to be the little girl
>sayuri proposes cute poses

they really are standins for male/4channer/female fans, aren't they
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>>149358729
I just don't like the trope but I do like yuri.
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>>149358673
They were shitting on you.
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>>149358757
>>149358791
Heartcatch. HEARTCATCH.
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>>149358792
>Salt doesn't give a shit

hey, even MANIME fans are represented!
>>
>>149358757
Forgive me if I'm uninformed, but how is a monster of the week show similar to a bizarre, artsy adventure show like this?
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Warning! The painting is going to be revealed next week.
The consequences will never be the same.
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Yayaka reminds me of this
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>>149358752
>I NEED RULES TO BE SET AND I WANT EVERYTHING TO ACT ACCORDINGLY TO THOSE RULES. FAILING TO DO THIS WILL END UP IN ME ASKING IDIOT QUESTIONS ABOUT UNIMPORTANT THINGS. MY AUTISM FORCES ME TO.
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>>149358896
Looks like the PI they go to IS the painting.
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>>149358896
painting of
>>149358728
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In Marmite wasn't Rosa sega genesis in love with her gay cousin? I recall something like this in the novels but it's been a whale.
>>
>>149358939
deepest lore
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>>149358948
No, they were just engaged against both of their wills. They were categorically NOT in love, though eventually they developed quite a bit of mutual respect and trust.
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>>149358387
Can anything beat the stick?
If you break it, it just becomes 2 sticks.
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They are cute together.
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>>149358948
You summoned it.
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If you haven't seen it yet, they posted some EP4 concept art on Twitter.
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>>149359096
I want to snuggle with them.
>>
these girls have nice butts
>>
>>149358929
Being curious about how the world of a show works isn't the same as being one of those "incomprehensible garbage" faggots. It is posters like you that make people think this shows and its fanbase are pretentious.
>>
>they were scared by the spoopy ghosts!!!1!
Manchildren, I swear.
>>
>>149358752
The KKK have the means to choose what PI they get into, that was said this episode. PI exists independently of reality, it's not that the worlds are suddenly "created" when the girls get in, they just enter already existing spaces. And it seems that any one real world place can be a PI, rather than some places being "special" because they're connected.
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>>149359154
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>>149359195
THE BREAD
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>>149359195
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>>149359192
So why does a portal suddenly open for them to fall into at the end of episode 4? The majority of what you are claiming there is just speculation by the way even if you are stating it like it is somehow fact.
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>>149359227
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>>149359165
No.
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>>149355557
how about the giggling at 13:56?
>>
>>149359256
Swiggity swooty
>>
>>149359256
is that a condom
>>
>>149359227
Does it say what that big rock/bone structure is? Reminds me of One Piece tbf
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>>149359189
You're correct in that consistency is important for writing and storytelling, but expecting that from even character-driven anime is going to lead to disappointment more often than not. Regardless, ignore the retarded shitposters.
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>>149359189
Why the fuck should we care about this? It's NOT a plot point. It's people like YOU who forces show to have info-dumping shit and shoves an ungodly amount of unnecessary shit that weighs on the narration.
Here, it's just yuri, diverse settings, Mahou Shoujo shit and fun. Nothing more.
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>>149359256
What's with the condom? Who has the dick?
>>
I wonder how "dark" this may get. After this ep it feels like whatever happens the series will mantain a comfy or safe atmosphere and by the end even Salto will get a boyfriend and learn a valuable lesson. Not complaining, I welcome the coconuts with my legs opened. Best episode so far imo.
>>
Why do they have to fight?
>>
>>149359256
>condom
wewlad
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>>149359318
Must resist...temptation...help me Jesus!
>>
>>149359318
The one with the stick.
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>>149359360
Remind yourself she's gay.
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>>149359360
Take out sexual frustration on Yayaka, she's used goods anyways. Keep the papika pure
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>>149359256
>condom
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>>149359318
Yayaka
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>>149359125
every time

still one of the funniest images /a/ has ever produced
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>>149358274
Here you go.
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>>149359256
>a condom
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>>149359254
You mean the Sun? When both girls' thoughts/feelings are connected, PI opens. This is literally the synopsis of the show and had already happened in episodes 1 and 2.

This episode pretty clearly shows that PI worlds exists regardless of the girls being there, because this world was borne out of and maintained by the fragment. And the KKK faction was there before the girls. The idea that any place in the "real" world can have a PI equivalent is something I thought, yes, not a fact, but it seems pretty consistent with what we've seen.
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>>149359300
It's an illustration of the shower curtain from overhead
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>>149359305
I don't even care about it with regards to writing or consistency. I just think it would be interesting to know or be able to infer how it works from what happens. With what we have seen so far there isn't much to go on. A lot of other mysteries have gotten hints at though.

>>149359311
No you are having an argument with someone else here. I'm not saying "wahh this show is terrible it doesn't spoonfeed me" rather "I really like this show and want to find out more about it".
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I learned from a madoka doujins that lesbiasn sometimes use "anal" condom for fingering , they are smaller then the usual condoms. If anything it was probably Papika who took it with her as she's clueless about society and probably biology.
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>>149359449
That's it. I didn't notice the Colgate the last time I saw this.
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It's not a condom you morons.
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>>149359598
what is it then nerdlinger?
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>>149359541
>Papika brought condoms just in case she got lucky

That's fucking cute
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>>149359511
When their hearts are together they can visit PI.

They can't control where they go but they seem to go 'inside' real objects and then leave them once they're done.

That's all we got.
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>>149359598
Don't you dare ruin it.
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>>149359494
I've been wondering why both factions always seem to enter the same PI and if that's relevant, then I think it might be that the loss of one amorphous opens up the way for another, so it's like they're peeling away layers or unlocking the next gate forward.
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>>149359256

Vertical view of their tubs.
Cocona's tub is surrounded by corrugated galvanized iron.
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>>149359637
Cockona will never catch on.
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Will everyone just ignore >>149359501 ?
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>>149359494
>When both girls' thoughts/feelings are connected, PI opens

That isn't consistent then. There are plenty of times when their feelings seem to be the same that the PI doesn't suddenly just start.
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>>149359541
>lesbiasn sometimes use "anal" condom for fingering
How can they say they love their girlfriend if they can't even get her poop on their finger?
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>>149359125
Too bad Sasuraiger is an FGC fag now that only watches Keijo, would have loved to see Manly Badass Anime Reviewer on Flip Flappers.
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>>149358757
I already saw HeartCatch, it was awesome stuff. I'll probably try GoPri next.
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>>149359662
Ignore what? The condom?
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>>149359662
Yes.
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>>149359662
Yes.
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>>149359598
Don't destroy their Pure Delusion.
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>>149359662
Yes, embrace Cockona.
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>>149359662
It's a condom from overhead?
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Jesus fucking christ this scene.
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>>149359640
-KKK can enter any PI world at will
-Cocona has a tracking chip implanted on her arm (speculation, but ep1's ending, ep2's focus on it with YYK even grabbing her arm in that part, and ep4's ending with the three KKK people getting a warning when the girls entered PI all point to something like that)
-They're chasing the FlipFlap girls to steal their fragments because they can't afford to give them for free. Before they showed up, they didn't need to 'compete' with anyone, but now that there's 2 opposed factions it's pretty natural that whenever one goes for a fragment, the other will disrupt them. Only the KKK people seem to be able to actively pursue though, FlipFlap is pretty barebones about the whole thing and seem content to just be able to traverse.
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>>149359658
What if it's ~symbolism~?
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>>149359321
Salt will die, those silent, brooding, "I don't need no friends" macho types always die in the end
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Pee on me, Coconaaaa!
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>>149359360
Jesus heard you.
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>>149359304
looks like peking duck the way they cut it in restaurants
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>>149359742
It seems odd though doesn't it that there is only one Pure Illusion at any given time that they both end up in. Almost like they are generated one after the other when the amorphous is taken from the previous one.
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>>149359670
It's when they fuck a random girl, dumbass. They probably wouldn't want some bislut STDs.
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>>149359741
G̹̲͔̲̃̀̉ͪͭ͢é̱͔̥͈̞̺̫̟ͪ͢͠k͍̠̮͔͚̓͒ͮ̔͒ͧ͠i̙̯̣͊͊̌ͧ͟ģ͓͇̜̳̥͚̹ͩ̑ͨ̐̈́̎͗͢͟e̯̜͕͗͛ͣn̷̛̩̱ͤ̏̏̆͛́̚ȳ̵̢̥̖̳͔̖̘̓͗̽̄̽ͧ̅ͅo̜̯͉̻̥͔ͨ̅̍͋̔͛̑̾ͫu̼ͦ
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>>149359742
That sounds solid, but in this episode it looked like Yayaka was already in the yuri school and had been there for some time before the Flip Flappers showed up. Maybe they'll explain the science behind it at some point, or maybe Flip Flap is sending the girls to the same locations as KKK.
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made one with running away
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1478213714789.webm
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>>149359884
i imagine batman saying it for some reason
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>>149356081
her gun just made me think about EYE
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>>149359891
The kkk robots put a tracking device on Coconuts.
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Is the show really as deep as we are making it out to be?
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>>149359884
Someday, I will learn how to do this kind of effect.
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>>149359951
I'm not convinced yet that the robots work for the KKK.

>>149359970
Google zalgo.
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>>149359711
it ain't pure, son
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>>149359966
Most likely no, but it's fun to speculate.
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>>149359966
Maybe
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Did we ever determine why this show isn't popular?
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>>149359891
Here, let me find you an explanation:
There's only one PI open at one time.
Sometimes the KKK find it first, sometimes the FlipFlap do.
They both end up competing for the fragment.

Here. The End.
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>>149359991
I'm pretty sure the OP has the robots together with the KKK
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>>149359917
I love their scream.
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>>149360017
Zero marketing.
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>>149359966
Even without anything "deep" there's still tons of imagery and symbolism, things that are quite lacking in most anime nowadays.
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>>149359991
Is this not good enough for you?
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>>149360023
Thats what the guy was saying to begin with
>it might be that the loss of one amorphous opens up the way for another
He was saying it seems like there is only ever one Pure Illusion so speculating as to why that could be and what causes them to change.
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>>149359966
It's deeper.

like cocona's pussy
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>>149360023
But mom, did Cocona marry Papika?
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I want a doujin where Papika and Cocona kiss for the first time on a whim. They become embarrassed and start to change their relationship as they transition from friends to lovers. They eventually are going to sleep together and start kissing on the bed, and they feel changes on their bodies as they start to become more and more hot and bothered. What follows is a akward, cute, sex scene where not only they are learning about their sexuality but also about their bodies since they are both young.
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>>149359966
it's fun-deep, not deep-deep
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>>149360017
It really does seem like this show should be way more popular. I'm glad it isn't getting eaten alive by normies though.
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>>149359966
It's as deep as Papika's love for Cocona.

>>149360023
That's exactly my speculation that started this discussion.

>>149360055
Oh, right. I forgot about that.
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>>149360080
Yes.
And then Papika died.
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>>149360017
Its popularity is apparently on the rise recently.
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>>149347978
pretty sure everything is just an excuse to draw cool shit
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>>149360085
If we pool our money together we could try to hire an artist to make a 20 page comic.

The only negative part about that is that the artist most likely won't be a Jap.
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>>149359966
As deep as Utena.
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>>149360017
0 marketing, slightly off-kilter storytelling, no classic anime gimmicks to get quick grabs, shows like these are ALWAYS unpopular, etc
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A better satire of yuri in one episode than Ikuhara managed in a season.
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>>149360103
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>>149360075
>what causes them to change
Wasn't episode 3 themed around Cocona's desires?
Also, wasn't it Halloween not so long ago?
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>>149360017
It's pretty popular here.
Which is the only place I care about.
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>>149360151
Is Flip Flappers a deconstruction of the yuri genre?
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>>149360151
Ikuhara is a hack.
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>>149360085
>>149360136

yea man im a huge fag too here take my money
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>>149360166
No not in that sense. In the sense of what mechanism triggers it to change from being one Pure Illusion to the next Pure Illusion.
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>>149360188
no
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>>149360188
It's a deconstruction of the deconstruction genre.
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>>149360201
Hey now, Utena and Penguindrum are good.
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>>149360136
>>149360207
I'm not going to give my money to a patreon attention whore to make a mediocre rendition of what could be something godlike. Some things are best not made at all if the alternative is to settle for mediocrity.
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>>149360188
Some people seem to think so.
Episode 5 was definitely a dig at the typical Class S "yuri drama forever going in circles and never ending up anywhere" stuff.
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>>149360085
There goes my no masturbation week.
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>>149360245
>Penguindrum
>anything but shit
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>>149359598
It is, fuck you.
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>the first 5 minutes of this show has more show, don't tell than most anime's first episode
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>>149360250
>dig
Why are people saying this? It was just homage/satire with a horror twist.
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>>149360276
SEIZOOOON
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I don't feel like there is only one PI at a time. Why didn't the KKK show up to ep2's world then? Hell even ep1 is a bit iffy, since the robots only appeared at the end when Cocona brought the fragment back, something the KKK shouldn't have expected to happen (did they even know of their existence at that point?)
The notion that they can "choose" what world they go into also implies at multiple worlds being possible at the same time.

Unless the KKK aren't really trying to collect every single fragment.
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>>149360316
It wasn't a vicious takedown or deconstruction, but you'd be a fool to think that playing something supposedly pure for horror isn't a dig on some level.
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>>149360222
I'm not sure I understand what you mean.
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>>149360316
>Homage
It's definitely not a homage
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These batshit dimensions and fragment gathering really remind me of Yume Nikki style games
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>>149360151
YKA wasn't even about yuri, it was just a series of one-sided molestations.
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>>149360328
I agree, but there has to be a reason the KKK just can't go get them all themselves.

What I find more interesting is how they said there are only a few left. They left the two organizations' motives dnagling pretty har, I hope they'll go into it next week.
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>>149360357
as in what happens in the show universe to change the pure illusion from the one it is in one episode to the one it is in the next episode.
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>>149360370
So basically genderbent yaoi.
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My name by the way is Yayaka, but you can call me Yayaka the autist killer.
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>>149360328
Maybe they didn't show up in ep 1 and 2 because they happened at the wrong time of day. Yayaka was definitely still in school during the bunny adventure. The snow world lasted for a long time though, so no idea there. They probably didn't want to introduce too much in the first episode and considering that there were PIs they only showed us in stills there are probably a huge number of them.
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>>149360353
it's a dig on that japanese passive-aggressive "played for humor" level, in a meta sense. Not something that creeps up into the show itself.
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>>149360422
It'd be cool if PI changes form in the middle of one of the episodes, especially if shit hits the fan at around the same time.
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>>149360432
I read that as "Yayaka the genderbender"
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>>149360353
It isn't necessarily a dig at all, sometimes things that are overwhelmingly viewed as innocent can come off as creepy in an odd way. Like some people finding children creepy for example.
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>>149359781
>self-rape
Panda tag when?
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Its too bad Yurinception isnt really selling. Gonna miss it after it ends.
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>>149359966
Of course
http://pastebin.com/jtwDKRzP
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>>149360085
Only if they transform during it.
>My hips are flip flapping on their own!
>Cues henshin
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>>149360422
But I just said it: it changes depending on the characters and the setting. For example, this week's PI was based around the decision of last week to have Papika and Cocona live together for a certain amount of time in order to get them closer together (which definitely worked). The horror twist was just because it's fucking Halloween season IRL.
1st episode was most likely based on Papika's desire for fun and adventures.
3rd episode was, as told, based on Cocona's unexpected sexual desires.
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>>149360466
>>149360494
I could buy that if it was just "hey here's Lillian, but really creepy, isn't that funny?"

The time loop where you can get caught up in doing yuri drama forever is definitely more than that though, it's poking fun at or even criticizing the structure of those stories as well.

Like when Yayaka was pretending to start some love triangle drama as a cover for her true plans to disrupt the loop, and Cocona, wrapped up in the illusion, was really expecting a kiss there. This stuff does not happen by accident.
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>>149360328
>>149360328
>Why didn't the KKK show up to ep2's world then? Hell even ep1 is a bit iffy, since the robots only appeared at the end when Cocona brought the fragment back, something the KKK shouldn't have expected to happen
You could make ass pull speculations about this. Say for example the KKK could detect the fragment had been brought back like Dr. Salt could, came and took Cocona and implanted her, then Yayaka only then began following them and confirmed they were in Pure Illusion. But then that doesn't make sense with the later episodes because they then get alerts as soon as papika and cocona go in. I think we need more explanation from the show really to get any further on this.
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>>149360353
It's a satire of a particular aspect of the genre, I'd say.
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>>149360552
>Yurinception
I was just thinking that it would be one hell of a ride if there was another Pure Illusion inside of Pure Illusion.
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>>149360617
You are talking about decisions the writers and designers of the show took to convey certain parts of the story. I am talking about the in show mechanism that causes the shift in the appearance/nature of the pure illusion. CAUSES the shift, not explains the reason they are different each type.
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>>149360555
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>>149360732
There's already been some hints that the real world isn't so different. For example the ability of Yayaka's team to open a portal in the real world at the end of Episode 5, and them keeping their transformed form.
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>>149360617
Diegetically, there's no indication that PI is based on any aspect of real life other than the straight up territory it's reflecting. In fact, everything points at there being no relation whatsoever between the characters' mental state/situation and where they end up.

The simplest assumption is usually correct: PI is just an actual space, that exists by itself, and the characters go there to hunt fragments. Not much more to it than that and whatever plot-related mumbo jumbo will be revealed in the third act.
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>>149360739
You're not necessarily talking about two different things. The KKK need portals to enter PI, but Flip Flap does it differently and apparently Papika and Cocona are special. So maybe they have a special connection to Pure Illusion and influence its appearance every time they enter.
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What's with this show leaving its cliffhangers hanging, I'm quite sure they were being shoved into a PI last week.
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>>149360859
It seems like the KKK team are used to Pure Illusion being different each time prior to Flip Flap coming on the scene though.
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>>149360833
>and them keeping their transformed form
I don't think they transform. They don't seem to use magic powers but technology.
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>>149360891
I think the story they are trying to tell is perhaps a little too ambitious for the size of series we have here to be honest. So a lot is left to either off screen action or being implied through things the characters say in order to portray the more important bits on screen. Think for example about those two images of yayaka stealing the crystals this episode. Those pure illusions easily could have been the basis for an episode each in a longer series.
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>>149360853
>Diegetically, there's no indication that PI is based on any aspect of real life other than the straight up territory it's reflecting. In fact, everything points at there being no relation whatsoever between the characters' mental state/situation and where they end up.
Explain why all the BDSM girls in this scene have either Papika's or Cocona's hair color.
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This episode was TOO DAMN SPOOKY
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>>149360921
Seems to me that team KKK doesn't understand the mechanism that team FF uses very well, since theirs work so differently. They enter PI with their portal grenades, and they don't have to sync (unless you assume that Yuyu and Toto, as twins, are always in sync already).

In episode 3, they outright wonder where team FF's entry hole is, when that is not something they actually use.
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>>149360853
>PI is just an actual space, that exists by itself
That's also a possibility but conjecturing that stuff just happens to match initial in-show parameters by pure hazard is kinda foolish if you ask me. Pure Illusion most likely is a "sentient", or if not sentient, moldable space that adapts itself to pre-existing conditions in the actual world of the anime. The horror twist is just adapting it to IRL as well.
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>>149360962
Because whoever drew them likes those colors? That's not how text interpretation works. This detail you found needs no explanation at all, it is merely a coincidence. It would only need to be looked at, ironically, if the idea that PI represents the inner minds of the characters was true. But there is no evidence for it.
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>>149361020
I don't think any of the Pure Illusions reflected anything about the characters to be honest. In fact the show itself told us today that the Pure Illusions actually influence the characters rather than the other way around.
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>>149361020
One thing we can be sure of is that PI is not just a "layer" over the real world, with certain crossover points. Because FliFla managed to go to two different PIs from the same Thomasson in the FliFla HQ.
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>>149361020
>happens to match initial in-show parameters
This is your fanfic. The show never made a point of highlighting something like that.
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>>149361051
It would have been a massive coincidence that ep 2 PI was bunny themed just when they were chasing Cocona's bunny in it if they weren't related to who entered it.
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Yuri amour~
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>>149361094
The Thomasson may be supposed to put them in the same place but where they enter doesn't matter they just end up somewhere random because they are shit at going in. Where as KKK are good at entering so can show up precisely where they want.
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>>149358415
>that spoiled
d-daijobu?
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>>149361051
This week had them going to a dark mirror of their school. In ep3 they went kinda-sorta inside a vacuum. I think it's clear there's a relation between the world and PI. Doesn't seem like it's character-specific though.
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>>149361051
That's funny because I think it works both ways. Cocona was shown on-screen to have a desire to submit Papika to her will, with the mask.
Also, last week's decision and main event was having the girls live together and eat the same things, doing the same things. And it just happens that today's parameters includes having the girls together in an endless loop where they get closer and closer with each loop.
Same for episode 2 with the bunny chase.
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Male gaze.
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>>149361152
They were hoovered up, like dust, dust bunnies.
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>>149360353
But horror with lesbian undertones is also a thing. I assumed they just combined the two. Especially since the relationship was progressing even though time was looping (you can't tell me the finger-sucking didn't get lewder).
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>>149361205
Get your tropes out of here
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>>149361204
>last week's decision and main event was having the girls live together and eat the same things, doing the same things. And it just happens that today's parameters includes having the girls together
If anything, ep1's world was a better mirror for ep4's "in-show situation"

>where they get closer and closer with each loop.
But they don't. The whole point was that the loops were sucking the humanity out of them and killing them from the inside. None of their marimite closeness was genuine.
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>>149361205
Mail gays
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>>149361204
I think there are some things the show has said about Pure Illusion, like that its form influences the characters behaviours, and some other things you are saying there which you interpret to be in the show that might not necessarily be there and I don't believe are there.
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>>149361204
It's more like it creates (or shapes) a world based on the characters desires (in a broad sense) and then traps them inside.That is not a contradiction, it's an id/ego/supergo thing.
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>>149361308
So how was the world in todays episode created? From Yayaka's desires? She was clearly there first for some time before them with the twins.
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>>149361341
Maybe? I think you can't really apply hard logic to all of this. A lot of it is vague and thematic, not plot flowchart "x leads to y" material.
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>>149361341
What about the two brief 1-frame worlds we saw? Or all the worlds that the KKK traversed before CoconaxPapika was even a thing?

I'll say it again: PI is a real space that physically exists, not a meta thing reflecting other things. It's completely independent of what the characters want.
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>>149361389
I think the idea that the form of Pure Illusion is based on the characters feelings or whatever is bunk. It is literally just the real world location crossed with whatever wacky theme the creators decided in planning would best fit with the section of the story they are trying to tell in that episode.
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>>149361456
>the nonsensical meaningless shot
For example?
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>>149361427
agreed and I used to think
>Pure Illusion is based on the characters feelings
so unless we get more explanation from the show I'm sticking with what you said basically
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>>149361264
>The whole point was that the loops were sucking the humanity out of them and killing them from the inside.
But it wasn't. They were genuinely enjoying it because of the sorcery. They simply had to get back to business.

>>149361341
Because the condition of having Papika and Cocona together was already decided for a certain time and PI adapted to it?
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>>149361401
Yeah that is what I was getting at. People who try to interpret this weeks world as being reflective of the desires of Cocona and Papika to become closer are missing the fact that Yayaka was there first and would have determined its form already if characters entering determining the form was a thing.
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>>149361456
>on MAL
Stopped reading there.
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>>149361401
I think it's both, PI are worlds that already exist, but they only enter the ones that match their emotions at the moment.
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>>149361401
How do you explain episode 2 where they go in a vacuum chasing a rabbit and everything inside the PI is vacuum and rabbit-themed?
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>>149361456
Fuck off.
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yayakawaii
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>>149361456
Damn son. Save your bait for another thread, not one that's about to die. You'll get more (you)s.
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>>149361456
>MAL
Fuck off and stay fucked off.
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>>149361427
It's most definitely not "bunk", since all of this is made up by anime writers trying to tell a story. And they want to have something that makes sense for the story, not necessarily something that makes sense for the universe. The PI reflects the characters because that's what helps the characters develop.

The only question here if there's an in-universe explanation, and if so, if they're ever going to tell us. I don't think you have to apply mechanical thinking here first and foremost, FF isn't really a "worldbuilding for worldbuilding's sake" kind of show right now.
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>>149361495
>Yayaka was there first and would have determined its form already if characters entering determining the form was a thing.
Episode 5's PI was an incarnation of Toto's desire to become the little girl and be surrounded by lesbians.
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>>149361456
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>>149361456
>MAL
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>This episode
I can't contain all my flips
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i have a papika
i have a yayaka
oohhhh
papaya
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>>149361456
It may or may not pull a Madoka on us before the season's out.
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>>149361495
The desires could be Yayaka's.

I don't think it's based on desires myself, it seems to be based on real objects to me
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>>149361523
>vacuum
they were literally inside the vacuum

>rabbit-themed
The creators thought it was fun? Again, making a world out of a detail is not how interpretation works. We only need an explanation if there is actually something to be explained about that particular detail (i.e. if we later get some overarching principle about how PI worlds work, we'd have to see that every world we have seen fits). Simplest assumption: the world of the week is just whatever seemed more wacky or interesting to the creators, and the themes develop in parallel to the adventure rather than symbiotically.
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>>149361456
>score on MAL
Kill yourself ``please''.
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>>149361596
Do you think we'll get an episode 10 explanation of Papika's origin and what's up with Yayaka?
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>>149361624
"It's just whatever the creators felt like" is a worse explanation than "they go inside a vacuum and it's kind of like a vacuum inside."
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>>149361427
You know things can operate on multiple levels, right?
On the literal level, PI is a strange and unknown fixed alteration of an in-universe location.

But you'd have to be silly to not see how the particular form the PI takes is intrinsically relevant to the characters and the narrative itself. In-universe, it may just be coincidental that there's such a thematic relevance, but it is very obviously an important connection to the narrative holistically.
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>>149361624
Anything a show does can be called as "it's what the creators wanted". It doesn't help the discussion in anyway.
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>>149361665
Well they haven't tried to explain how PI manifests so anything besides what's in the show is ultimately irrelevant and cannot be proven.
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>>149361384
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>>149361554
>The PI reflects the characters because that's what helps the characters develop.
That just doesn't hold true. Unless you are being really broad about it. Like it wasn't at all nessecary for episode 3 to take the form of Mad Max like that, the same development could have been acheived through thousands of other theoretical worlds. The reason that was a Mad Max world was because the creators wanted an excuse to make something cool that references it. Nothing to do with the characters, just a wacky fun way to present it that happened to fit with the part of the story they were trying to tell that week fairly well.
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>>149358837
Hot. I'd eat their poop if you know what I mean.
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>>149361501
>>149361535
>>149361546
>>149361553
>>149361561
>>149361564
>>149361625
there is literally nothing wrong with mal
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>>149361665
I'm talking about the crazy setting of the day. I did say that it seems the territory inside PI is loosely similar to the same territory in the real world, as seen in ep1's school yard, ep2's vacuum world (everything in the world works exactly like a vacuum. In fact the only bunny-related thing were the girls) and today's ep with the clocktower.

But there's nothing more to it, in-universe. In a meta sense, whatever wacky stuff they tell Studio Pablo to draw seems randomly decided by the creators as what they thought was cool, rather than deliberatly created alongside the writing to reflect character.
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>>149361652
Could be that, one of them could die, who knows
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>>149361706
That's why were speculating on what it COULD POSSIBLY be.

Holy fuck
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>>149361706
>they haven't tried to explain how PI manifests so anything besides what's in the show is ultimately irrelevant
It's exactly what I was getting at with >>149359311
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>>149361686
I don't see that there is any consistent thematic relevance to the form of the PI to the characters in any of the PI. Just people drawing weak interpretations here and there that x specific thing in world Y must be proof that their fan fiction is true because it is symbolic of Z.
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>>149361733
>Like it wasn't at all nessecary for episode 3 to take the form of Mad Max like that,

Nothing is "necessary", it's fiction. You can wonder, what came first, them wanting to have a FotN pastiche or them having a bondage theme about repressed desires, but what ultimately matters that both of that is present.
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>>149359666
>666
I think it must be in the right place in the right time, satan.
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>>149361733
The same could be said about the horror elements in today's episode. But you have to separate the "4th wall-breaking aspects" and the aspects that can be explained in universe, m8. Not everything comes from the same root. There are decisions based on IRL shit, and there are decisions based on in-anime stuff.
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Well, If FliFla was going to drop the ball it would have been on the Marimite horror episode. But nope, it was amazing, probably my favourite episode so far.

It was not particularly scary, but I'm fine with that, the goukigenyou girls were unsettling enough to evoke a feeling of dread that kept me hooked. I could have watched a much longer episode with that setting.
I was honestly not expecting the mahou shoujo transformations to return though, I thought they would have been a one time thing in the shounen PI. I suppose transformation scenes are too fun not to reuse.

Also Yayaka has absolutely cemented her place as best girl.
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>>149361733
>it wasn't at all nessecary for episode 3 to take the form of Mad Max like that
>it wasn't necessary for episode 3 to to be TOTALLY AWESOME like that
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>>149361806
The problem with your idea in ep3's case is that there is no real-world glimpse of the characters' feelings that would have created that bondage world. They were just sent there by the Thomasson, right after Cocona had accepted to have wacky adventures with Papika. The whole playing the villain and repressed desires thing is something the fragment came up with by itself, not something the show presented to us trying to draw a link between reality and PI. The things said about Cocona's character may still be true, but they were all contained within the PI setting of FotN and the hax mask, not something that expanded beyond to reflect the nature of PI itself and its connection with reality or the characters.
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>>149361806
My point is that the form of the PI could have been completely different to achieve the same outcome in terms of development, making the reasonable explanation for the world presenting like it did that the creators just thought it was cool.
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>>149361742
I agree.
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>>149361875
>I was honestly not expecting the mahou shoujo transformations to return though
But they were in the ep 5 preview at the end of ep 4.

Yayaka has been fun this episode, though.

>she just chucks papika out of the bed before waking up cocona
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>>149361742
Yes, MAL would be great if it wasn't for these MAL users and their terrible ratings and forum posts.
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>>149360139
That was hilarious. Shit came out of nowhere.
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>>149361908
>The whole playing the villain and repressed desires thing is something the fragment came up with by itself, not something the show presented to us trying to draw a link between reality and PI.
You don't have any proof about what you're saying, why do you type it like it's a fact? For all we know, what the evil flower said is still much more likely than your rambling

>The things said about Cocona's character may still be true, but they were all contained within the PI setting of FotN and the hax mask, not something that expanded beyond to reflect the nature of PI itself and its connection with reality or the characters.
How do you know this for a fact as well?

Do you happen to be a yurihater by any chance? Because honestly, if all you got is spouting "facts", you can just fuck off.
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>>149361859
>>The same could be said about the horror elements in today's episode.
The same could be said about the elements in all of the episodes in the PI that is my point. They are being chosen as cool and interesting ways to tell the story, you know develop the characters, and not as a deeply symbolic reflections of some characters feelings.
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>>149360353
Deconstruction is a vicious takedown?
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>>149362116
You seem to have a really hard time having a proper argument.

Thread's dead so not going to reply. You do you.
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>>149362116
We were told this episode that the PI influences the characters behaviours. You could quite easily say that any characters behaviour now is the result of the PI influencing them when in PI rather than their true feelings.
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>>149360255
You just need to exercise everyday, and/or whenever you get aroused. It's not hard.
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>>149362038
>But they were in the ep 5 preview at the end of ep 4.
I try to avoid spoilers if I know that I'm going to watch something regardless. I suppose it didn't come as a shock to anyone else then.
I'm very impressed that so far they've managed to avoid letting it feel like a 'monster of the week' anime, despite having a series of differently themed PI worlds.

I wonder if Yayaka is becoming jealous of the relationship between Cocona and Papika; she clearly still cares about Cocona, and her relationship with the twins has been shown to be purely one of utility. Hopefully we will see a more endearing side of her soon.
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>>149362313
Yayaka obviously cares in some way, since she could just left Cocona and Papika when the PI collapses.
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>>149359125
>Indiana Cocksausage
Literally choked on my drink
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