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How they will stop him?
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>>149223785
THE ONE is here now.
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have you eaten your greens today anons?
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>>149223785
Fusion Dance into Gogeta.
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>>149223785
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>>149223871
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>>149223853
Dance fusion is way weaker than potara, Gogeta would get raped by merged Zamasu with no effort at all.
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>>149223871
>>149223881
I love this art style
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>>149223881
bra is not a slut.
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Summary of the last episode.
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Use the power pole and put him on the moon, then have boss rabbit turn him into a carrot.
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>>149223829
That's the most gayest gohan I have ever seen. Can someone post the quickie dailydose gif.
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>there are people who think Mai is a slut
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>>149223959
Too bad he probably died when Roshi blew up the moon
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>>149223959
didn't the rabbit died when Roshi destroyed the moon?
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>>149223884
>raped by merged Zamasu
I wish that
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>>149223935
I love you.
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>>149223989
I know you love it
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Why do people call Gohan a cuck when Yamcha is by far the biggest cuck in Dragon Ball?

>Can't even talk to girls
>Still dream of getting married
>Finally get a girlfriend
>Breakup
>Ex girlfriend marries the guy who got you killed once
>Never get another girl

I can't even laugh at him because of how sad it is.
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>>149224018
SSJ must make a great night lamp
love you too
no homo
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>>149224023
>the guy who got you killed once
But the Saibaman killed him, not Vegetable.
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>>149224051
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>>149224023
because some Gohanfags get upset about it instead of ignoring it
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>>149224019
I can't get enough of it. I need it every day.
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>>149224076
Vegeta was the reason the saibaman was there in the first place.
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>>149224018
>Badgirl shirt
that's adorable
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>>149224095
have you tried a bigger dose?
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>>149224148
>>149224095
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>Goku has a sealing charm in his pocket that he forgot about
>Seal Zamastwo in the jar
>Gowasu takes the jar and seals it away in that chamber where all the rings were.
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>>149224117
But Nappa put that Saibaman on the ground, just because Vegeta told him.
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...the Z Sword, maybe?
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https://youtu.be/XT9Ue-gpo9U

4:15 has got to be the most aesthetically pleasing part of the anime so far.
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Will we see more older attacks make a comeback like Mafuba?
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>>149224172
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>>149224219
They might do a Taiyoken to buy time for fusion.
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>>149224219

I want Tien to Kikoho the fuck out of Zamakk.
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>>149224254
Just say Solar Flare, you weab.
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>>149224254
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>>149224257
I want more Tien in the series. Maybe he can do something worthwhile again.
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>>149223785
Pull off some jewelry? He outright told them that the time-rings protected them from the time paradox, and that the ear-rings let them use the time-rings.
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>>149224373
The fusion is permanent after putting on those earrings.
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>>149224341

https://youtu.be/YY9g-0d7BK0
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>>149224216
>That music when Beerus stops Zamasu
>That absolutely terrified scream

Absolute best part of Super, and it won't be topped for a while.
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>>149224401
Who said anything about fusion?
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>>149224051
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>>149224023
Using Yamcha as the lowest denominator is too easy. it's like comparing everything with Hitler.
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>>149224401

"Permanent". Right. There were only three Potara fusions before Zamakk, and two of those were reversed.
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Honestly, who's on top? Episode made me think Green was on bottom, going back to Black all stressed and sweaty
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>>149224401
Well, yeah, but I think what he's getting at is that if they're removed he won't count as a Kaioshin anymore, so the time ring won't work.

Also, not really permanent. Supreme kai got unfused, and I guess they could like, revive Buu themselves and have him eat Zamasu. Of course, this would give you evil Zamasu Buu, so maybe not the best idea.
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>>149224449
>"Permanent". Right
But they said they destroyed the Super Dragon Balls, they can't defuse.
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>>149224487
Just ask Buu to eat them and spit them out again.
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>>149224487
Supreme Kai used the Namekian balls to defuse
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>>149224449

Wish I had any skill with making gifs, that moment when Beerus pulls his hand down deserves posterity.

And I fully expect some "clever" guy to edit Hillary's face on top of Zamasu's and Trump's on top of Beerus.
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>>149224537
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>>149224537
>>149224555
kek
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>>149224023
You got one detail wrong. Yamcha died because the Saibaman he fought went Allahu Akbar on his ass. In fact, Vegeta didn't kill a single person while he was on Earth.
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>>149224414
I can't stop watching, why can't he be relevant
Surly being able to split into 4 people and fusing back again would make him more powerful.
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>>149224597
he killed Nappa
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>>149224616
He said person.
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>>149224616
Oh shit, I forgot D: #DicksOutForNappa
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Nappa was just a Saiyan, get over it.
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Gee, I sure can't wait for Vegeta to get "bodied" again...
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>>149224598
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>>149224597
It's still Vegeta's fault that he had to fight the saibaman.
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>>149224645
>>149224667
>>149224695
>#saiyapeoplelivesmatter
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>>149223785
Fuck if I know. They've proven Goku is too retarded to stick to a plan. Mabufu? "OH NO VAGITA, I LEFT IT AT HOME! WAZ A KIZZZ?!" Fuck everything about Suoer. Regardless the outcome, it won't be satisfying or make sense.
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>Zamasu has Satyam biology now
>yfw he's getting his shit kicked in, but has one final FINAL trump card
>yfw he'll just have to become A GREAT APE
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>>149224743
Look at it this way, even if Goku remembered the seal it still wouldn't have worked for some bullshit reason because this is DB where everything has to be concluded with a fight
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?
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>>149224754

On that topic, shouldn't he get a Zenkai when he gets his shit kicked in?
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>>149224841
most overrated grill in db.
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>>149224754
He's got no tail dumbass.
Plus they're not going to do anything GT already did.
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The madwoman
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>>149224840
Besides an ass-pull, what can they do? The show has shown us 3 fucking times now that there plan of "stop losing and start winning" isn't going to do shit because they'll get fucking bodied like they have been for the past 8 episodes. What can they seriously do that won't be pure fucking shit?
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>>149224852
he's immortal so no point
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>>149224874
Isn't that supposed to be 18?
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>>149224840
I was expecting them to seal it then Zamasu would immediately escaped because the glue hadn't dried or something.
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Can we just sit down and think about how fucking strong Goku and Vegeta have become over the course of two years?! (Age 778 - Age 780) First of all, the Super Saiyan God multiplier is AT LEAST 10,000x base, then they absorb the "God Ki" and now SSG is their base strength. Then they unlock SSGSS/Super Saiyan Blue, which is even stronger. When they still weren't used to God Ki they didn't get that much stronger in three years. But after mastering God Ki, Vegeta went from being fodder to Goku Black, to being able to mop the floor with him, it's just fucking crazy!!!
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>>149224881
Immortal body should regenerate damage though, right?

I'll be honest, I kind of just want pink monkey Zamasu ssj 4.
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>>149224904
Your idea is better than the shit we got. Goku forgot. AGAIN.
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Fucking Merged Zamasu's new ability "wall of light" is Authority of Greed tier hax. Apparently it is something that either surrounds his body or he summons it, but it can completely destroy whatever it touches.
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>>149224754
Nigger he wont be getting his shit kicked in, spoilers say that his halo light erases everything it touches and he got Ki that functions on Bleach's spiritual pressure mechanic.
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>>149224920
Kys my man
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What will even come after this?
At this point he's set up as almost a series ender villain but seeing as dragonball has got a new department set up for it we can safely assume Supers gonna keep going.
But let's say next arc is the multi universe tourney. After that how can they top Black?
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>>149224947
More gimmicky bullshit.
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>>149224947
Black Vegeta fussed with Broly...who can go SSB...x100
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>>149224947
The return of Pilaf as the most dangerous villain.
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>>149224947
Probably a broly type One who kills anyone who is weaker than him. If not then someone who ends up killing the gods in the present timeline
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>>149224947
Still waitin' for Teal Krillin.
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>>149224947

The god of destruction from universe 10 shows up and he's pissed as fuck at Beerus for coming over and killing one of his dudes.
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>>149224994
Nice idea!
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>>149224947
You're forgetting about Zenou Sama. The worst villain would be him.
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>>149224947
I feel like we won't get a proper tournament.
It will probably be interrupted by someone who can destroy all the universes and Zeno.
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>>149224994
I would approve that one, more Mai the better.
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>>149224947
this >>149224969
Which I'm alright with. I actually really like the how the show is going with stuff like Time Stop and All Destroying Light, It brings fresh shit to the series.
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>>149225009
If you've been paying attention, they've been laying the groundwork for it in the background.
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>>149224947
Goku can't find a playmate for Zenou, who starts to get pushy about it.

>>149225040
Oh yeah, Pilaf even edited the main code for the time machine. He could have put in a back door or something.
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At what point does xenoverse 2 end?
I know black is in it
I don't think they would spoiler the rest of the black arc, but it would be weird to start an arc but not finish it.
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>>149223785
1) Goku and Vegeta fuse into Vegito
2) After 2 episodes of fighting, Vegito realises he can't deal enough damage to kill him thanks to Zamasu's immortality (which is now slightly weaker due to the fusion; it's more along the lines of Buu-regeneration than true immortality)
3) Vegito channels his inner Goku to try to come up with a last-ditch strategy
4) >Try hitting him REALLY hard
5) Vegito kills Zamasu
6) Vegito lets Fat Buu absorb him to break the Potara fusion
7) Everyone has a barbeque, nothing bad will ever happen again
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>>149224947
Goku White and Goku blacks son
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>>149224947
What if episodes

>What if Raditz and Nappa reformed?

>What if Cell joined the Z-Fighters?

>What if Goku never died and Gohan killed Cell after spitting out 18?

>What if Bardock fled with Goku to Earth?

>What if Bulma married Goku?

>What if Freeza killed Gohan instead of Krillin?

Etc. Please, Toei?
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>>149225220
>What if Freeza killed Gohan instead of Krillin?

Goku would be mildly upset instead of extremely enraged
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>>149225220
My favourite "what-if" scenario to think about regarding Dragon Ball (specifically Z) is:

>What if, instead of going to Namek with Krillin, Gohan stayed behind and went with Goku after he recovered? Krillin and Bulma still go first, just without Gohan.
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>>149225274
Dende would never make it, anon.
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What if Vegito defeats Godmasu and they all go home but during the tournament Godmasu pulls a Garlic Jr and returns out of thin air in the middle of the stadium while having a monologue about ningens being unable to defeat perfection and then opens rift in space and throws Zeno in? Would be pretty cool.
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>>149223785
remember when goku first fought vegeta, and veget a said he learned a technique similar to goku 's kioken. Did he even use that technique or what was the deal with that.
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>>149225289
>throws Zeno into a rift
>He pops his head out and says something like "that was really rude"
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>>149224515
and the namekians are dead black killed all mortals and the earth is the only planet left with mortals
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>>149225281
Probably not

I like to think Krillin and Vegeta would end up helping each other though simply out of necessity

>Vegeta gets all 7 balls thanks to Gohan not being around to steal one
>Can't get them to work, figures Krillin will know since he's had experience with Dragon Balls before
>Krillin can't figure it out either
>During their search for answers they become friends - or at least, find each other somewhat tolerable
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>>149224947
the lengedary sayajin broly
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>>149225363
When does the sex come in?
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>>149225220
>What if Goku and Vegita never unfused?
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>>149225363
>yfw he does this to Krillin
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>>149225391
NO!
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>>149225390
After Vegeta Gets his wish for Immortality, he is so happy he lets Krillin and Bulma have the next two wishes, and Bulma loves his generosity so they bang in the cave
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>>149225220
>What if Cell joined the Z-fighters.
Majin Buu would've been alot easier to handle.
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>>149225220
>What if Vegeta's suicide attack actually killed Buu
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>>149225484
The world would've been a better place.
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>>149225220
What if Yajirobe hadn't eaten that huge bucket of senzu beans.
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>>149225448
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>>149225529
L-lewd.
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>>149225548
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>>149225573
Man, why do they have so much fun art?
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>>149225529
Keep goin anon please
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>>149225586
>>149225598

The rest is too lewd, anon
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>>149224641
non-canon
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>>149225669
I'll show you non canon
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M-Muh- fuba
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>>149225692
I dunno why I laughed at this.
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>>149225692
hi anon
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H-HAYAI!
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>>149225744
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>>149225651
>NEVER KISSED
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>>149225242
*snap* "Oh maan! Frieza, you goose, that was my son!"
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the girls are going to outnumber the boys soon in the show
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>>149225755
Maybe they will when goku and co. return to the past?
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>>149225755
nice meme
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>>149225755
Goku confirmed for doggy style only.
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>>149225651
Post imgur album anon
I need the rest goddamn it
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>>149225766
>Come on Freeza now I have to get another, and that one took YEARS to grow, don't be such a jerk
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>>149223881
I hope a few years pass between some of the arcs(like how we've seen gohan slowly grow up all the way since Radditz to Cell's saga), supossedly super happens a few years after Buu's saga right? trunks and goten don't look older at all.
I just want teen goten and trunks shenanings and possible BraxGoten shenanigans too
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>>149225755
I don't actually watch super and just read the threads for memes. Did they actually say that Goku has never kissed Chi-Chi?
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>>149225755
>>149225810
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Did PIlaf's gang ask for being turned into babies or eternal youth?
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>>149225846
When Trunks fed Mai a senzu bean through his mouth Goku said he never did that before. Feeding someone through the mouth.
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>>149224841
Did Gohan actually like her with short hair?
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>>149223871
Have we had any indication she *doesn't* remember? I thought Mai is aware who Bulma is, in both timelines.
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Bulma flirting with Zamasu might be the highlight of this series. Vegeta is one Lucky son of att bitch. His wife is a billionair genius who, despite being 45, looks like a 30 year old and is horny like a 20 year old.
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>>149225810
All night. Like animals.
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>>149225884
I know I did. Shame how Super removed all of her personality.
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>>149225893
The prince has good taste in women.
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>>149225846
Yes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-vHkKPoX9s
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>>149224023
SOUKIDAN
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>>149225853
>C
>A
>N
>O
>N
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>>149225891
She and her gang remember Goku/Bulma in the present in the movie retellings, but not in Super.
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>>149224148
shoop in vegeta and it will be perfect
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>>149225884
>>149225918

He didn't have a preference, he just didn't want her to get grabbed by the hair in a fight kek.
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>>149225940
Never understood this scene. People have been fed sensu beans while unconscious for 30 years.
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>>149225860

They asked to have their youth back. Shenron was feeling like a dick.
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>>149225893
Truth
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>>149225978
You damn well know why they did that, anon.
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Poop on a stick
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>>149225980
>>149225860

He was a dick
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Can we all agree that this was the best Bulma hairstyle? And it lasted for like two episodes.
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>>149225976
I know he didn't, I'm asking if he grew to like her with short hair.
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>>149226020
He loves her for her personality only
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>>149226012
I don't know but we can absolutely agree that this was the worst.
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>>149226012
I'm more of a side-pony man myself.
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>>149226048
>>149226046
>>149226012
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>>149226043
Too bad she lost that.
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>>149226066
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Pick your poison.
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>>149226059
56-65 and 78-87 are pretty nice.
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>>149223785
They unseal Buu and have him turn Zamasu into candy. Zamasu will then be reduced to a really strong candy. Buu's digestive properties will somehow have the ability to break down any god given abilities like potara fusion or immortality. Even if the two manages to break out, they won't be immortal anymore.
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Is this canon?
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>>149225242
I really hate the Goku does not love his family meme
>but muh interview with Toriyama
Fuck you Goku cried when he saw Gohan after being dead.
His family really holds up more value to him that the other guys
I'm pretty sure that if Frieza killed Gohan the Super Saiyan is still on the table but instead of raging saiyan more like a sad saiyan
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>>149226098
I can't imagine this not happening.
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>>149226077
Red headband

Namek Bulma best Bulma
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>>149225242
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>>149226098
There's no way it isn't.
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>>149226127
>I really hate the Goku does not love his family meme

Loving his family doesn't absolve him from being a shitty father/husband.
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>>149226127
He literally let Gohan AND Goten die in order to save Mr Satan, and barely seemed to care - at least Vegeta got pissed off
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>>149226097
Also it will be revealed that Buu was made to kill Gods and it's only real weakness was ningens.
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>>149226156
....go on
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>>149226175
You have to understand, anon, Vegeta isn't retarded. He's a Saiyan but he still cares for his family. Goku was doomed as soon as he hit his head.
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>>149226167
>>149226175
>>149226197
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>>149226267
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>>149226285
how stupid are you
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I wonder how well the manga will be paced considering it's supposed to be ahead of the anime soon
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>>149226297
Pretty stupid.
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>>149226297
Not as stupid as Goku
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What did he mean by this?
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>>149226180

It would be nice to know how Kid Buu could square up against Beerus. During the whole time he's fighting, it's clear he never takes it seriously. The spirit bomb needed to take him out was fucking absurd.

Never mind what would happen if he absorbed Beerus.
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>>149226340
What are you talking about? Kid Buu was substantially weaker than Super Buu.
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>>149226351
weaker in terms of power level maybe, but becoming the manifestation and pure evil incarnate let him be a "pesky" or "troublesome" fighter.
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>>149226340
The probably with Kid Buu wasn't his strength, it was that they couldn't kill the fucker.
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>>149226351
He's probably as stronger than regular super buu but weaker than Buutenks and Buuhan.
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>>149226340
Beerus would destroy him with one hit.

Kid Buu is the least powerful Buu, he's just the most dangerous because unlike the other forms of Buu his idea of fun is outright destroying planets
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>>149226167
How the guy is a shitty father? I fucking mean it
Goes to save his son against the literal monster that was his brother when he knew he had absolutely no fucking chance against him.
The only reason he stayed dead for an extended period it's because he knew even stronger guys were coming
Sacrifices himself when the little smug shit of his son doesn't do the job and he wasn't a bitch about either he was "it's ok my boy you did good"
Goku put all his trust in Gohan. Maybe people don't know this(specially here) but showing you trust someone is another way of showing love
He remained death because he truly believe that his presence triggered bad stuff which he was right about it, the only reason anything happen in Dragon Ball is because of Goku being in earth and Raditz Triggered all the following events.
The moment he set foot after 7 fucking years a literal ancient evil awakens (thanks to Vegeta having his middle life crisis after 7 of not Goku in Earth) .
Then you know what else fucking happens the fucker still trust his sons even though he barely knew the youngest one(he was dead give the guy a break when you're dead you're not suppose to interact with the living) and the other stopped training.
>But he could kill Buu and he didn't
Because Goku knows he is just a mortal and eventually he has to pass the torch
People don't give enough credit to Goku and Super ain't helping either
I went autistic in this post sorry
Tl,dr Goku is a better father than yours
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>>149226416
>Kid Buu is the least powerful Buu
says who? According to Old Kai he's quite troublesome.
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>>149226416
>Weakest
>not fat or pure evil.
C'mon.
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>>149226423
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>>149226450
Yes I'm fully aware of if, what you gonna do about it fuckboy?
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>>149226432
Kid Buu was troublesome because he was just a chaotic force of nature that destroyed planets and wrecked havoc for no rhyme or reason. Kid Buu couldn't be bought, negotiated or reasoned with. That's why he was so dangerous.
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>>149223785
Befriending him or killing him off only to have him come back in a later episode more powerful.
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>>149226461
I'll tell you what I'm not going to do

Get angry over Goku being a shitty father.
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>>149226476
k but how did you come to the conclusion "least powerful Buu" ? Clearly that's headcanon.
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>>149226476
>Beerus woke up because he sensed someone doing his job
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>>149226332
>Honey trap
it was nice comic
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>>149226351

>weaker
>several characters comment on him becoming much stronger during the transformation
>after the transformation, they feel like he has no power
>in Super, we learn that you can't sense the power of beings who are too far above you
>also, Kid Buu damaged the Earth by screaming

We never saw Kid Buu using his whole potential except when he got the spirit bomb thrown at him. Hell, fat Buu got his ass kicked and Goku would have to go SSJ3 to beat him.

Mind you, it's just a story, so characters are as strong as the author wants them to be. But it's clear that Kid Buu was much, much more powerful than he let on.
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>>149226561
>>several characters comment on him becoming much stronger during the transformation

Only in the anime.

Scratch that, only in the American dub.
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>>149226561
i agree with you except for this line:
>in Super, we learn that you can't sense the power of beings who are too far above you
Pretty sure they only referenced God Ki which you can't sense as a untrained mortal.
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>>149226509
Oh, that one wasn't me. I just said he's weaker than Super Buu.
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>>149226510

The whole Beerus-Buu relationship is weird. Clearly he was aware of Frieza and seemed to want to off him eventually because he was blowing up too many planets, but then he meets fat Buu on Earth and doesn't seem to know who he is, and he never questions the absence of Dai Kaio, or the fact that most of the Kaioshin are dead.
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>>149226615
He probably thought he was still tied to Old Kai before learning about the new Kaioshin that was born while he was sleeping.

Didn't BoG in both the movie and Super have Whis explaining Buu to Beerus? My memory's kinda jank right now.
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>>149226599

In the manga as well. Vegeta freaks out at him getting bigger and stronger as he turns into Ultra Buu for a few seconds, but Goku tells him to relax and goes "See? Everything's fine!" when he turned into Kid Buu and suspiciously couldn't feel his power anymore.

Then Buu proceeded to wreck the Earth by shouting very loud and threw a planet buster so powerful at them that they couldn't dream to stop it. Then he started teleporting around the Universe and exploding planets like he hadn't just sent Goku and Vegeta running for their lives with one attack.

>>149226602

That's kind of my point. Word of god is that Bibidi didn't create Buu, he summoned him. As far as we know, Buu might have been the god of destruction of another universe.
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>>149226677
Will God somehow remember this against all odds and capitalize it later in Super?
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>>149226647

I don't remember. Either way, Buu's been around WAY longer than Frieza. If Beerus knew about some evil space pirate emperor, he certainly knew about the eldricht horror summoned from outside the universe by an evil wizard who is supposed to be a thousand times stronger (in his weakest form, Fat Buu).
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>>149226729
Maybe he fell asleep right before Buu killed all of the Kaioshin, assuming that all of them could take care of it with no issue.
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Since Zamasu and Black fused while Black was in SSJR he can't power down can he
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>>149226811

To be fair, South Kai and Dai Kaio had the kind of power necessary to do it. It's just that Buu decided he was having none of it and absorbed them. And apparently that made him weaker. Two things come to mind:

1. We have no reason to assume the other Kaioshins weren't as strong as Beerus, especially Dai Kaio. Shin himself was the runt of the bunch, he was their Yamcha.

2. Talking about it, if he really was a god of destruction, then it would make sense that he'd become weaker from absorbing gods of creation (the kaioshin). This would explain why he doesn't get a power down from absorbing mortals.

Mind you, I don't think Toriyama planned any of this. The man can't even keep track of his characters.
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First goku and vegeta does fusion. Then trunks and gohan do fusion. Then gogeta and and gotenks do fusion with gogeta and make gogogetenks. True story
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>>149226902
The kais aren't even close to the power of Beerus, dude
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>>149226902
He didn't plan any of it at all.

I kind of question that kind of discussion when Toriyama just wants to entertain his readers with fun fights and not worry about stuff like that.
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>>149227032

Shin and old Kai certainly aren't. Dai Kaio and the Southern supreme Kai were on a completely different level.
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>>149226872
You're onto something, this could be something of importance
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>>149227059

Well, the discussion came from trying to figure out what's next for Super, and the fact that it's really weird that Beerus seems to be oblivious about Buu.
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ok so

1) i thought mafuba could only be used on demons. zamasu is a god..no?

2)if it can be used on non-demons,why didn't they use mafuba on literally every villain.
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>>149227108
Eh, it's not like Beerus seems to care that much about what happened while he was sleeping, all that matters to him is doing his job sometimes and eating good food now.

I don't see anything upcoming besides the Multiverse tourney, but we'll probably get one more arc before that.
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Zamamamamamamamamasu

<3
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>>149227205
how fun would that be tho? you already know its for plot reasons? would you actually want to see that?
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>>149227221

I'd agree with you about him not giving a shit if he didn't seem to think Frieza was an issue.
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>>149227205
Because the Mafuba doesn't really solve a problem, it just locks it away (and it drains the user so much that it would've killed pretty much anyone below Future Trunks' level)

Sealing away a problem doesn't fix it, just look at that anon who kept sealing up his shits in plastic boxes since he was too autistic to call a plumber to fix his broken toilet
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Am I the only one who loves how they're introducing moves like Time Skip, Black's ki sword/scythe, and Zamasu's light? I felt that by EoZ everybody was just spamming generic ki blasts. I think the only time we ever saw cool techniques like that were with Gotenks.
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>>149227619
lame
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>>149227619
You need to pay more attention.
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>>149227619
>Black's ki sword
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>>149227619
Only reason why i still care about DBS and also because it's reaching mexican fanfic tiers of absurd.

>>149227702
He mean with Goku/ Sayans, the villains always had their own gimmicks.
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>>149223785
triple fusion
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>>149227765
>He mean with Goku/ Sayans
>>149227619
>everybody

Also instant transmission and >>149227749
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>>149227793
i watched it 10 years ago give me a break.
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Reminder that Beerus, Whis and others of their kind are complete assholes and look down upon ningens.

https://youtu.be/eTjPrhKr61o
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How will this end?

A) Goku/Vegita fuse

B)Whis/Beerus bail them out

C)Goku remembers a critical weakness to his body

D)Goku goes SSJ2 God, or uses kaio ken x20
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>>149224018
>>149224078
>2
>6
Post the rest of it, please.
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>>149227832
whis and beerus don't age, so in their long life they probably don't care about ants
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>>149227855
Either Vegetto or Beerus will lay an incredible beatdown on Zamasu, but Xen'o will be the one to finish him off.

they wouldn't have introduced that button if they weren't going to use it.
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>>149227855
Vegito, why else would gowasu and kaioshin show up if not to provide a source of potara earrings? it's called chekov's gun
>C
it would be hilarious if black zamasu had a tail
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>>149227857
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>>149227619
>>149227749
What even is the most recent original move that isn't reskinned old move
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>>149227905
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>>149227911
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>>149227920
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>>149227911
hahaha now that's funny
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>>149227702
I'm talking about techniques anon,
Buu had nothing but Kamehameha and generic energy ball planet destroyer. Cell was literally a donut steel "I have all the heros moves" villain. Black is a literal Goku clone and still has his own moves.
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>>149227934
>>149227937
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>>149227907
The only time a weapon was relevant in DBZ was when Trunks sliced Freiza.
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>>149227941
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>>149227920
Thank you based anon. I'm converting to a Brafag this very moment.
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>zamasu hates humans so much that he became one
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>>149227958
Welcome, fellow Brafag
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>>149227973
the end justify the means, zamasu of all people knows that
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>>149227938
>I'm talking about techniques anon,
and that is what I gave you anon.
Buu is using various types of body manipulation there.

>Buu had nothing but Kamehameha and generic energy ball planet destroyer.
You forgot Instant transmission again.
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>>149227973
i think the point of Zamasu is that he's ultimately a hypocritical manchild who's just butthurt a mortal kicked his ass
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>>149228000
he could have just wished he was as strong as goku, or swapped bodies with zeno
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>>149225391
Their wives would have to share and their sex life would be interesting.
Goten: "I have two dads, well sorta."
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>>149226423
> Tl,dr Goku is a better father than yours

not setting the bar that high are you?
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>>149228028
Tell me anon what did your father did to you. Tell me the whole story from the beginning when your relationship with your father hit on a sour note and went down hill.
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>>149227938
>What is Candy beam?
Faggot
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>>149223871
so why exactly is mai young in trunks's timeline? Everything was fucked by the time the android saga started so why did they still make the same wish?
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>>149228188
because pilaf is an ass
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>>149228188
They wanted to be young still, anon. There was a three year waiting period, remember?
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>>149228188
Pilaf mistakenly made the wish of being Young kinda like what happen in GT making Goku the one young. It's classic Pilaf for you.
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>>149226509
>>149226603
Well, I don't think there is any evidence he's "Weaker" than super buu, unless you mean Super Buu with gohan absorbed in which case fucking duh.
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Why did they have to make this shit last a hundred or so fucking episodes? I was hoping for a nice 12-20ish episode series but oh wait, it's fucking dragon ball and has to be long as fuck with fillers up the ass.
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>>149228235
>>149228224
>>149228219

But there are no dragonballs in future trunks timeline. That was established earlier. Piccolo was killed by the androids and Dende never took over.
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>>149228345
The wish was made before not after.
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>>149228345

>>149226003
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I just realized something
>Maxi Fusion requires 5 people
>Goku, Vegeta, Bulma, Trunks, Mai

>Default Maxi Fusion has teal hair, with blue in it has colors from all above charaters(Including trunks new mode)

>Gender applies to the strongest fusee(Goku).
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>>149228375
I want to fuse with you, anon. Potara or dance, I have no preference.
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>>149228345
In Resurrection F, Pilaf has no knowledge of the second wish that was added when Dende recreated the Dragon Balls during the Cell Games. That confirms that the wish was made before the Androids in both timelines.

It's still a retcon, but the timeline adds up.
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>>149226872
So he's going to get exhausted pretty quickly with no way to stop it, right? But it can't really do anything to him, since he's immortal. I mean Zamasu got his shit kicked in a few times, but he never seemed to be bothered or tired by this. What if the immortality gives him infinite stamina as well? Then the SSJR exhaustion wouldn't matter.

>>149226902
Makes sense, I like that theory. Sure Toriyama didn't plan it, but it does fill a couple of gaps.
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>>149228291

I think the evidence is straight up math.

X+Y, where Y is an integer greater than 0, will always be greater than X.

X = Kid Buu, the original, most pure form of Buu.
Y = Entities he'd absorbed prior to become later forms of Buu.

Given that Cell became significantly stronger just eating a bunch of random civilians, there's no reason to think eating Kaio-level beings would ever make Buu weaker on a physical level.
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>>149226499
Andalites, you need to go back.
Take the saiyans with you.
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>>149224945
>he got Ki that functions on Bleach's spiritual pressure mechanic.
Reiatsu?
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>>149228428
except when he absorbed the fat kai, supreme kai said that he had gotten weaker
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>>149228399
You don't have to fuse with me for that,

Just go fuck yourself.
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>>149228460

I actually just reread the manga recently. Maybe the translation's spotty here, but it definitely didn't imply he was "weaker", here. He'd just grown more docile.
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>>149228487
I'm not Zamasu, though.
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>>149223884
Oh no He's 1000 instead of 1200 fighting this 500. What will he do?
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>>149223952
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>>149223941
Except that she is.
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>>149228586
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>>149223785
asspull
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The mightiest god, his name is Merged Zamasu!

Or "Fusion Zamasu" according to the official simulcast subs
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>How will they stop him
Vegeta and Trunks fusion dance
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>>149223941
> Make Bra into an 8 year old slut in GT

Why did Toei fuck this up so bad?
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>>149229159
> Vegeta and Trunks fusion dance
> Neither Vegeta or Trunks learned the dance
> Gowasu and Shin brought TWO sets of Potara with them

How stupid are you?
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>>149229236
god i want to do u in the butt anon...can i? Craigslist?
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>I'll show you mine if you show me yours
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>>149229236
i mean...this just happened anon...in the recent episode no less seriously...Craigslist? so i can do u in the butt?
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Who's gonna be on beerus' universe team?
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>>149227949
Oh my, where's all that coming from?! Me wants more, more, moooore!
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why didn't they bring the seal in capsule like mutenroshi did?

how long till ssj4 became cannon?
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>>149229410
She really doesn't look pleased.
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>>149229533
Top 3.
Goku
Vegeta
F.Trunks
Other fighters
Piccolo
Buu
Monaka
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>>149229533
Goku
Vegeta
Gohan
Buu
Monaka
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>>149229676
Monaka? Really? That prank is already old I don't think even Goku will fall for it a second time.
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>>149229676
I don't think it will be allowed to have people from other time lines in your team anon.
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>>149229689
>Goku will fall for it a second time.
>Super Goku
>not retarded
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>>149229720
>Toei Goku
ftfy
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Someone get me the SSB Gohan picture, stat!
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>>149229714
still a u7 and zeno doesn't need to know that.
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If Whis is 15, SSB Vegito is ? and ZamZamasu is ?
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>>149229758
>implying Beerus would ever, ever risk doing ANYTHING that could even slightly annoy Zen-chan
Not happening unless he is somehow overruled by Whis being a dick.
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>>149229758
Even if zeno knew I doubt they would care
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>>149229410
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>>149229793
yes this i forgot how incompetent the little "king of all" is he really doesn't care if f.truks is in the tournament as long he is from u7.
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>>149229815
It's not a matter of him caring or not, it's a matter of Beerus being a complete beta faggot when it comes to him.
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>>149229841
let's see if beerus would be smart or no.
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>>149229774
> Whis: "If both you guys work together, you MIGHT be able to beat Beerus"

If Beerus is a 10, SSB Vegetto should be around that number.

Fusion Zamasu is a a bit weaker than Vegetto (so probably a 9), but has the added benefit of being immortal
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>>149229533
Goku
Vegeta
Buu
Uub
Piccolo
If they use the same format as before.
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>>149229908
That Whis statement has been retconned though, it was only in the movie. Super hasn't really established a ceiling for Beerus, he's as strong as the plot needs him to be
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>>149229915
Isn't Uub like 7 years younger than Present Trunks?
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>>149229928
It doesn't need to be retconned. It just needs to be more abstract rather than literal numbers.
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>>149225220
Oh God, pls
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>>149229928
> That Whis statement has been retconned though, it was only in the movie.

I'll take Toriyama's canon (the movies) over Toei's (the Movie re-tellings)

Even if you don't, all future arcs will follow the movies instead of the re-tellings anyway. Like they have been doing this whole time.
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>>149229967
We don't know when the tournament is going to happen.
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fusion fails and then he's about to kill them.
goku falls on his ass and accidentally presses the button Zeno gave him.

Zeno appears, snaps his fingers and blackmasu instantly dead or depowered, and then they all go back to the normal timeline and have a party. If blackmasu isn't dead, he is forced to be Zeno's "friend" for eternity.
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>>149228513
Wait, doesn't this mean beerus was linked to fat kai?
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>>149230035
>forced to be Zeno's "friend" for eternity
Excuse me, HOW the fuck is that a punishment? I see people mention that a lot, but I don't see the point.
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>ep 63
>zamasu and black fusion shown in 64 preview
>ep 64
>black and zamasu fuse in last 30 seconds
holy shit, there was more new zamasu in 63 than 64 wtf
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>>149224969
Better than another generic energy beam. Merged Zamasu has one of the most varied movesets out of any DBZ villain.
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If Fusion Zamasu powered down from SS Rose (SS White?), would he have Goku's hair?
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>>149230068
Remember how he casually threatened to wipe out his guards? He seems very temperamental.
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i like this color
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>>149226098
Goku is pure. He probably doesn't even know he's had sex.
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>>149225220
personally I'd love to see one of Android 17's kids become a Z fighter, an an actual decent one.
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>>149225220
>What if Goku never came back and Gohan never jobbed
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>>149230175
How did Black know how to make shadow clones?

Tien Black soon?
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>skeletons in my anime forum
AAAAAAAAA
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>>149230294
They were other Blacks coming from the rift.
To be fair, that scene was weird as shit.
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> Vegeta is the strongest Z-fighter

Feels good to be a Vegetafag now
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>>149230385
> Black stabs himself
> Makes a SSR Scythe
> Cuts a rift in time/space by accident
> Shadow Blacks emerge from the rift

What the fuck was I watching?
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>>149230538
Toei's way of padding the episode
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>>149230538
Soul eater edgy edition
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Dragonball canonical powerranking
Roshi-moon
Vegeta (sayian arc)-planet
Super perfect cell- solar system
Beerus- universe
Zeno existence
My dick- your mom buster
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>>149230119
> Wall of Light
> SSR Blade
> SSR Scythe
> Instant Transmission
> Black Kamehameha
> Saiyan Zenkai
> Immortal God
> Tea-brewing Master

How can any other villain compete?
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>>149230606
> Toei padding

Actually there was a purpose for this.

It was meant to distort the Ki around the area, so Goku couldn't IT immediately to Trunks
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>>149230732
Buu is still the beat villain.
Nobody likes unnecessary edgy motherfuckers with 0 charisma fuck off kami.
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>>149230732
and yet hes still not perfect
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>>149230724
That spoiler though.
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>>149230835
>Buu.
>Nobody likes unnecessary edgy motherfuckers.
oh the irony
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>>149230724
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>>149230724
You clever bastard.
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>>149230724
>>
So let's say goku tuns SSR but still cannot lose to him
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>>149224884
sauce?
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Why is there a clock on the upper left?
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>>149231210
?
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>>149230724
Kinda stepped on to that one

touché
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>>149231210
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>>149231245
>>149231379
This shit: >>149224458
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>>149228411
> he's going to get exhausted pretty quickly
Exept he won't
Since SSBlue is specifically mentioned as a non-exhausting form
And SSRose is basically the same.
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>>149231428
So japanese kids know when to stop watching twink anime and hurry back to work sewing new shoes for us
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>>149231428
To tell the time
That's what they use em for
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>>149224947
You know
Both Z and the original had lesser villain unleashing a "sealed evil in a can"
Even movies had it
So what if somebody (probably Pilaf again) finds another can of eldritch horror?

although after writing this I remembered about that "potofeu" mini-arc, but still
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So, I wonder
Where the hell did this "holy light" came from?
If Zamasu knew about it before, then why didn't he used it?
You could argue that was because he was already immortal...
But then why didn't Black use it?
Or was he not strong enough for it?
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>>149231566
Pilaf is dumb but I don't think even he's dumb enough to do that a second time
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>>149231566
Throw it in the sun?
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>>149231696
He is literally a child right now
He is even younger then in "Demon King Piccolo" arc.
He obviously has the intellect of a senior... little dude. But he has naivety and lack of wisdom of a child

And it doesn't have to be him
It's just that currently DBS doesn't have any lesser villains.
Unless you count Frost I guess...
U6 Buu anyone?
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>>149231848
TAO
A
O
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>>149231956
would'nt he be dead of old age by now?
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>>149230853

Grovel before Fusion Zamasu's luminance. He is beyond the concept of "Perfect".

His form is justice. His form is the world.

Revere him. Praise him. The noble and beautiful, immortal and most powerful god. ZAMASU.
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>>149230835
>0 charisma
>baiting this hard.
Goku black is the most charismatic villain in dragonball fusion Zamasu being half black makes him charimatic by virtue alone.
>>
So, we have:
Goku (Goku)
Dad Goky (Bardock)
Slightly darker Goku (Turles)
Black Goku (Black Goku)

and now we have:
Salad Goku with some onions (Fused!Zamasu)
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>>149232015
What if he went full-android now?
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>>149232034
fusing with yourself is cheating!
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>>149232124
add
>goten
>small goku from gt movie
>ginou in gokus body
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>>149232155
Possible
That would get us a RedRibbon/Android themed saga
Which is also one of the classics.
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>>149226902
But Shin said Zamasu was the strongest Kaioshin in all of the 12 universes and he's SS2 level.
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>>149232206
smol Goku
chibi Goku
Horny Goku

there you go

that would make it 8 versions of Goku in the anime, not counting forms
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>>149230002
I think Beerus' power level is the one thing that Toriyama actually wanted to retcon. Don't forget that Toriyama stated that even if Freeza trained more he wouldn't surpass Beerus, which would seem to clash with the old power scale where the space between SSJ God, Golden Freeza and Beerus would be very small.
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>>149223884
Source? I want proof that what you're saying is true
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Gowasu takes Bulma to the past so she can get the seal while Vegetto holds him off. Then Trunks uses the Mafuba on a weakened Zamasu to seal him

Pretty sure Merged Zamasu can take Beerus
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>>149232206
You also forgot composite/best goku.
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>>149232338
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>>149232351
exept that counts as a form, so no
same with Gogeta
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>>149232286
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>>149232265
>Don't forget that Toriyama stated that even if Freeza trained more he wouldn't surpass Beerus

That's because all that would do is have Freeza use his Golden Forme without the huge power drain.

That Forme is the peak of Freeza's power.

Golden Freeza with 100% power efficiency is stronger than SSB, but not by a huge margin. And nowhere near Beerus.
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>all these gokus
meanwhile, nobody wants to be the strongest fighter
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>>149232433
that's not a proof
he said that
> it'll work even better
that doesn't mean it's stronger
he probably said it because there is no time limit
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>>149232513
here is before page.
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>>149232265
>I think Beerus' power level is the one thing that Toriyama actually wanted to retcon. Don't forget that Toriyama stated that even if Freeza trained more he wouldn't surpass Beerus, which would seem to clash with the old power scale where the space between SSJ God, Golden Freeza and Beerus would be very small.
Yeah, Toriyama even said he has no plans for Goku and Vegeta to surpass Beerus any time soon, which would conflict with the 6-10-15 scale and Whis' comment about Goku and Vegeta teaming up being able to defeat Beerus.
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>>149223785
>tfw can't wait for this nigga to die so we can stop seeing him as the OP image
use whis or vados already
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>>149232482
King Vegeta (Vegeta)
Prince Vegeta (Vegeta)
Planet Vegeta (Vegeta)
Babby Vegeta (Vegeta)
Grape Vegeta (Potaufeu)

just five variants
not enough
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>>149232241
>And nowhere near Beerus.

Toriyama's old power scale

SSJ God Goku in BoGs: 6
Beerus:10
Whis:15

The space between Freeza (who had to be above a 6) and Beerus' 10 is just too small in Toriyama's old power scale. It makes no sense to talk about things like "nowhere near Beerus" if Toriyama didn't intend to throw away that old scale.
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>>149232559
Fucking ningens...
Zamasu should be the OP image for all eternity as a sign of appraisal and reverence!
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>>149232553
and after.
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>>149232602
>planet
but yeah, i forgot about others
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End of the arc right here, folks.
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>>149232554
>which would conflict with the 6-10-15 scale and Whis' comment about Goku and Vegeta teaming up being able to defeat Beerus

How? Goku would have to nearly double his already huge power to be stronger than Beerus.

That doesn't conflict with Toriyama's statement that he doesn't want Goku or Vegeta to be stronger than him anytime soon.
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>>149232602
> Babby Vegeta (Vegeta)
fix: Babby Vegeta (Baby)
>>
>mahuba not working

As much as it being anti-climatic, it was hilarious seeing Zamasu panicking.

And the monkey boy forgot to do something again, seriously.
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>>149232606
SSJ God Goku in BoGs: 6
Beerus:10
Whis:15

G. Freeza would be a 7. I don't see any problem with that.
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>>149232712
Yup
Praise our lord and saviour
chibi-dumplin
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>>149232713
Super Saiyan God Goku is a 6 already.

That leaves 4 points left to fit in Super Saiyan Blue Goku, Golden Freeza, Goku after training 3 years in the ROSAT, Hit, SSR Black and Merged Zamasu.
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>>149232788
SSG Goku: 6
SSB Goku: 7
G. Freeza: 8
SSB Goku after ROSAT: 7.5
Hit (manga): 5 (limited), 7.5 (full power)
SSR Black: 8.5
Merged Zamasu: 10
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>>149232911
> Merged Zamasu: 10
you know
considering that Zamasu IS a god
it's not as bullshit as it sounds
although maybe lower it to 9.5
>>
Zamasu wins. He fulfils his utopia and dwells in his loneliness. He starts to doubt of his achievements, Goku's body influences him to seek out challenges but there's nothing. Perfection becomes a curse. Zamasu starts to dread his existence and presents himself to the Omni-King, detailing on his actions.
Using his powers the Omni-King restores everything to the moment before Goku and Vegeta perish, humanity's last barrier. Zamasu concedes. He ask for forgiveness (mainly to Goku, Gowasu and Trunks) and understands that his justice isn't justice at all. He asks for judgement and the Omni-King delivers.
Trunks is forced never to travel in time ever again, all the time-machines are destroyed.
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>>149233153
That's would be incredibly satisfying, I guess. I'd like to see Goku and Vegeta lose, a villain repenting out of intellectual reflection (and, perhaps, Goku kindness?) and Zeno taking a role of righting wrongs in a cool and subtle way, not out of a childish tantrum (like the 'Goku's my friend and he must be alive for me to play with him!' that we'll probably get).
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>>149232788
>>149232911

SSG Goku and SSB Goku should be around the same strength. Only one is a timed transformation by Ritual, and one is activated by SS.

Goku:
> "It's a little more complicated than that. You don't have the patience for the full story, so let's say I got a taste of something called Super Saiyan God, and now I've learned to tap into that power on my own."

SSG & SSB Goku: 6
Golden Freeza: 6.5
Post ROSAT SSB Goku: 6.5
Hit: 7
SSR Black: 7
Future Trunks (start of new arc): 4
Zamasu: 5
False SSB Trunks: 6
Current SSB Vegeta: 7.5
Beerus: 10
Fusion Zamasu: 12
SSB Vegetto: 14
Whis: 15
Zeno: Infinity
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>>149233378
I was in that one thread where some anon said power level fags are the worst
man he was right
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>>149233378
Wrong. The manga and anime said it surpassed the power of SSG
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>>149233378
>SSG Goku and SSB Goku should be around the same strength. Only one is a timed transformation by Ritual, and one is activated by SS.
Except the anime has stated SSB is stronger than SSG and the manga treats SSG as a seperate transformation below SSB.
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>>149233153
>intellectual ending
not in this anime
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>>149233378
dude
SSB is atleast 50 times stronger then SSG
Because it's basically a Super Saiyan 1 form with SSG as the base
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>>149233449
And Toriyama said it didn't. All the changes that Toei did in the movie re-tellings won't be applied to future arcs.

>>149233577
See above. Toriyama's RoF > Toei's RoF
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>>149233774
You're fucking retarded holy shit
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>>149233654
Goku absorbed some of SSG's power, not all of it.

That's why SSG Goku was doing better against Beerus than post-SSG SS1 Goku
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>>149233774
Pic related.

SSB is stronger.
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>>149233801
Toei's retcons of Toriyama's movies aren't canon.

Anyone who thinks so is retarded.
>>
Champa was so comfy.
https://youtu.be/dRlPrl_NDAE

I didn't like how he was going to kill the U6 fighters, though. He's a bully.
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>>149233901
If they're retcons then BY DEFINITION they're canon
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>>149233774
They said this in the tournament arc genius
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>>149233860
> Not in the anime
> Therefore not in Toriyama's script
> Basing your argument on Toyble's original content

Wrong
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>>149232911
This is the most cancerous shit I have ever seen. Kill yourself you autistic mongol.
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>>149234001
The anime stated SSB is stronger than SSG too, so what's your fucking point?

The only place where it isn't stated is in the original F movie, and it was stated that SSB was stronger in promotional material for that same movie, so you're just being a fucking retard.
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>>149233971
Not if it's not done by the author.

Toriyama bases the post-movie arcs as sequels to his movies, and not Toei's re-telling of them.

Toei's BoG
> Removed all of Toriyama's Kid Trunks x Mai content. The anime team was forced to pair them in the beginning of the current arc.

Toriyama's BoG
> Kid Trunks and Kid Mai have been seeing each other since BoG. Officially Bf/Gf since RoF at the latest.

Toei's RoF
> Gohan: "I'm going to continue training!"
> Vegeta receives "enhanced" armor from his wife. Discards it next arc like it's nothing
> SSB has no regenerative properties despite SSG having it in Toei's BoG arc.

Toriyama's RoF
> Gohan never said anything about continuing to train, which is consistent with how he behaves in the U6 Tourney and Zamasu arcs.
> Nothing is said about Vegeta's new armor, probably got it from Whis. Discarding it next arc makes more sense.
> SSB has no regenerative properties, which is consistent with his previous movie.

Toei's re-telling of Toriyama's own content should not and does not supercede Toriyama.

Everything in the re-tellings that are not in the original source (the movies) is technically filler.

This is the same logic we've been using for years: Content that's in an anime that is not from the source material is filler. Ginyu taking Tagoma's body in Toei's RoF is equilvalent to The Ginyu Force fighting in King Kai's place in Toei's Namek Saga.
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>>149233153
Lol no we gonna get mafuba
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>>149233774
Holy shit the autism is off the charts with this one. Illiterate retard.
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>>149234047
>The anime stated SSB is stronger than SSG too

When? If it was mentioned in Toei's RoF re-telling, then that doesnt mean anything.
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>>149223785
The creators really aren't subtle about it.
Why are there 2 kaioshins around who refuse to fuck off despite not serving any purpose?

I have not read the manga, but I think it's obvious.
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>>149234119
Both the manga and the anime, as well as promotional material, say SSB is stronger than SSG

When something is in both anime and manga, it means it's straight from Toriyama's script
>>
>>149234113

See: >>149234063
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>>149232602
>King Vegeta (Vegeta)
>Prince Vegeta (Goku's Bitch)
>Planet Vegeta (Vegeta)
>Babby Vegeta (Baby)
>Grape Vegeta (Potaufeu)
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>>149230724
Yamero
Dirt sucker punch
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>>149224947
Broly.

They never did Broly canon on the series and Toriyama always wanted him to be part of the canon.
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>>149234210
>Toriyama always wanted him to be part of the canon.
In your dreams faggot
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>>149234149
>Both the manga and the anime, as well as promotional material, say SSB is stronger than SSG

When was this mentioned besides the re-tellings?
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>>149234063
>Officially Bf/Gf
sure buddy
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>>149233378
>> "It's a little more complicated than that. You don't have the patience for the full story, so let's say I got a taste of something called Super Saiyan God, and now I've learned to tap into that power on my own."
>using the dub dialogue

So you're retarded, then?
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>>149234119
Show me where toryiama says ssg is stronger then ssblue.
I am waiting faggot. As of now ssbkue was always mentioned as the superior of the two. Now piss off with your headcanon bait faggot.
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>>149234250
Toei mentions it in the retelling. However Toyotaro mentions it in the canon arc.
It also matches up with the promotional material for the movie. It's from AT
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>>149234210
>Toriyama always wanted him to be part of the canon.
Toriyama doesn't even REMEMBER Broly.

Shonen Jump (USA) had an interview with him, and when asked about Broly, Toriyama mentioned something along the lines of "Did i create him or something?"
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>>149234250
>SUPER SAIYAN FORM OF A SUPER SAIYAN GOD

SUPER SAIYAN BLUE = SUPER SAIYAN GOD + SUPER SAIYAN

SUPER SAIYAN BLUE > SUPER SAIYAN GOD
>>
SSB alone makes that power scale from BoG irrelevant.
Super saiyan makes you 50x powerful. SSB goku and Vegeta should be far more powerful than Beerus and Whis but they aren't.
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>>149234255
(Beginning of RoF)

Mai:
> "Hey! I have a boyfriend named Trunks and if anything happens to me, he'll make you regret it!"
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>>149234261
> using the dub dialogue

That or use the more ambigious Japanese quote. Either way, they mean the same thing.
>>
>>149234449
Except the Japanese quote literally says that Blue is stronger than God >>149234312
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>>149230724
>not including Broly as a galaxy buster
Frantically denying it doesn't make it not true, anon.
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>>149234271
>Show me where toryiama says ssg is stronger then ssblue

I never said that faggot.

Learn to read: >>149233378
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>>149234400
Power ups and Power levels never actually mattered. What matters is if Toriyama says a character is stronger than another. Any numbers or multipliers are completely arbitrary. Beerus and Whis are the unmitigated "TOP" for a while because "There's always someone stronger"
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>>149234288
> Re-telling changes from the original source is not canon
> exclusive Toyble content is not canon

Try again
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>>149234418
nah, she wanted to scare that blue nigga, trunks didnt know he had a gf
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>>149234507
Ok so you're just an idiot. They're not exclusive if they're in both mediums
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>>149234507
So, if the Champa arc in the anime states that Blue is stronger.

And the Champa arc in the manga also states that Blue is stronger.

We're supposed to believe that Blue is not stronger based on.... what? Your bullshit headcanon? An outdated movie that has been retconned twice already? Toriyama's imaginary script that we're never gonna see and probably has nothing on powerlevels since Toriyama doesn't give a fuck about them?

Fuck off with your bait, retard.
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>>149234312
SSGSS = Going SSG by SS Transformation (rather than by ritual)

"Power of a SSG" because Goku absorbed some of it in the first movie.
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>>149234531
In the end of BoG, they were already holding hands on the top of a tree at night.
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>>149234563
Headcanon.

Yeah, you can fuck off now.
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did somebody say power levels?
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So that's why the Supreme Kai is there.
He'll give them the earings.
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>>149234551
>So, if the Champa arc in the anime states that Blue is stronger.

Again, when was this stated?
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>>149234563
It's so odd to me that people still use the "SSGSS" instead of the easier "SSB" which is pretty much what the manga and anime have gone with.
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>>149234474
Show me faggot
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>>149234535
One was in an anime re-telling, and the SSG Goku vs Hit was only in the manga.

Find one where it's said on both Toyble's and Toei' version of Toriyama's script. Post Re-telling arcs.
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>>149226077
This post just made me realize: Bulma had green hair in the anime but in DBS she has blue hair, but nobody seems to give a shit.
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>>149234171
>Goku's Bitch
Was it Goku or Vegeta who wreck-fucked Black in EP 63, I forget...
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>>149234769
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzwPMFve_oQ
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>>149234905
dub is so painful to listen to
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how do i turn off spook?
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>>149234635
Very first episode of the Champa arc.
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>>149235105
wait 24 days
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>>149235214
fuq
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>>149235120
And did that scene in the first Champa Arc episode...wherever it was (I'll just take your word for it), exist in Toyble's manga?
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>>149235285
It was the narrator just recapping shit, but the manga does have a speech bubble of the narrator skipping through the F arc where he says Blue is stronger, so there's that.
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>>149235343
So...it's not a shared scene that both the anime and manga have?

And in the anime's case, it was just the Narrator recapping the Toei Re-tellings?

I just need a shared scene in both the anime and manga, post re-tellings, that say SSB > SSG. Because that would mean it's in Toriyama's script.

If you can find that, I'd admit I'm wrong.

Otherwise I'd have to go with what the RoF Movie said.
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>>149234210
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>>149235285
>Toyble's manga?
Yes a big point in the manga hit fight was that goku could go ssj god to test out hit and then he powered up to ssj blue to go all out.
So instead of using ssj b kaioken as his trumpcard ssj blue was his trumpcard.
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>>149223785
gojita
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>>149235611
I understand that, but that was Toyble OC. Not in the anime.

For it to be present in Toriyama's script, it'll have to be on both the manga and anime.
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>>149235699
You've gotten multiple evidence that places SSB being stronger in the manga and anime, but you're just being a fucking retard

The narrator in the manga recaps the RoF movie by saying SSB is stronger
The narrator in the anime recaps RoF by saying SSB is stronger

This is in both anime and manga. You're an idiot and I don't understand why people keep replying to you
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>>149231441
In the manga Vegeta loses to Hit, because apparently turning SSB against Cabba wore him off. So it's not non-exhausting.
Also
>SSR is basically SSB
Source: your ass
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>Super Saiyan God
>stronger than Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan
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>>149233153
>Zamasu falls in love with Goku
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>>149231441
No it wasn't. In both the anime and manga, they said SSB tires you out.

Goku says it to Hit in the anime, and Whis says it to Beerus in the manga.
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>>149232650
>>149235781
>>149224019
>>149224148
Don't forget your holiday themed dose! http://i.4cdn.org/f/daily%20spooky.swf
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>>149235900
stfu anon
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>>149235758
> Recapping RoF re-telling

Doesn't count. It needs to be said from the original source, it's that simple.
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I kinda wanna go back to posting cute family junk.
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>>149235900
webm pls
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>>149236031
No, flash is superior.
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>>149235900
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New thread:
>>149236070
>>149236070
>>149236070
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>>149234618
>Fused Zamasu stronger than Champa
Eat dick. Nobody cares about your shit chart.
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Why are DBS chapter so fucking long to get a trad?
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>>149227793
I thought Gohan wrecked his shit.
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>>149235825
Man, I'm at work and I couldn't stop reading it nor laughing all the way though.

I'm probably getting fired.

Thank you.

It was worth it.
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>>149232911
Considering how strong the earing fusion is, no.
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>>149224296
>>149224339
>say Mafuba
>get buttmad at someone saying Taiyoken

Shut the fuck up, spics.
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>>149234400
PLs never made sense. Considering how high nurmbers are now, it is probably on a log scale.

So a PL of 100 is probably only twice as strong as 10.
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why did Cell never turn Gold Frieza, super saiyan + Giant Namekian form?

Imagine, a giant golden cell with hair.
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>>149236983
Whenever he had a gold aura he was going "super saiyan". Note how literally no other race has that aura color, no matter the strength.
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