Is this guy Jesus?

His identity hasn't been officially confirmed, but everything points to it, yes.

He hasn't been revealed to be Jesus even in the manga, but he is definitely Jesus.

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>>149223713
>>149223754
I knew it. I saw the holes in his hands and thought "this isn't even subtle".
This is gunna be good.

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>>149223681
I look like Jesus, so they say
But Mr. Jesus is very far away
Now you're the only one here who can tell me if it's true
That you love me and I love me

I built a little empire out of some crazy garbage
Called the blood of the exploited working class
But they've overcome their shyness
Now they're calling me Your Highness
And a world screams, "Kiss me, Son of God"

Too obvious, won't be Jesus.

>>149223794
I didn't even notice that. I figured he'd be Jesus. Guess I gotta rewatch the episodes out now.

>>149224246
Beginning of episode 4, shortly after he heals one of the orcs his hand dramatically moves towards the camera and you can see the circular scar in his palm.

>>149224246
in the following eps he heal monsters, multiply food, and give a copper dragon skin cancer so he can make coins and give the monsters a monetary system. also the obvious healing, holes in hand and the speech about being sent ot save humanity and instead being fucked

>>149224198
This. What's the point of not revealing his identity if it's obvious who he is. Must be a plot twist.

>>149223681
He even has holes in his hands. He's Jesus.

>>149224575
Have you watched any old anime? Hokuto No Ken and Golion mention a main characters death in the next episode preview and even in the episode name.

Its most likely Amakusa Shirō.

He's Eastern Orthodox version of Jesus, not Catholic Jesus. There's a pun in there where he's referred to by the Japanese translation of Chernobog.

>>149224575
Remember it might not be as blatantly obvious to the nips.

>>149224847
hes black jesus

>>149225251
WE WUZ JESUS N SHIT

he mentioned he was a carpenter before in the manga.
IIRC Jesus was a carpenter too

>>149223681
Almost certainly.
It would be a good plot twist if he isn't, though.
Nevertheless, he(he?) definitely got style.

Sounds like Mussolini.

>>149223681
Why is Jesus a bad guy?

>>149226070
hes saving everything except humanity. hes only a bad guy to humans.

>>149226070
so you know the deal with END's right?
ends are people who ate shit in a terribad way and hate humanity for it. Jesus qualifies primarily because if you think about it, he died an extrordinarily shitty death, and he may have been hyper buttmad about it.

>>149226070
Because it's hilarious to Hirano and that's basically all that's matter.

>>149226166
Actually, that's what I am still not sure about. Are the teams picked based on "going out with a bang" vs execution or is it more about regret?

>>149223681
Could be Peter, who was one pissed off guy, he and Paul had a bad relationship, peter being a fisherman and paul being a roman citizen, another is the 3 denials of Jesus by Peter (denying Jesus would have meant a fuck of alot of self hatred and shame that Peter had), at the arrest of Jesus Peter was the only one with a blade and angry enough to attack and cut off the ear of a servant of the High Priest (which jesus later reattached) and also in terms of my thoughts of why Peter was pissed off - he had alot of anger in him as attested by this - In the Gospel of Luke is a record of Christ telling Peter: "Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat: but I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren."
also in terms of scarred hands "It is traditionally held that he (Peter) was crucified upside down at his own request, since he saw himself unworthy to be crucified in the same way as Jesus"
heavy wiki use there, I can barely remember sundayschool stuff these days

>not wanting to help purge all human corruption by serving the God-Emperor Jesus and the tsundere god who sent you

cmon, drifters

>>149226208
i imagine its regret, and thats the only damn reason hijikata is part of that group.
Drifters are just people who died in questionable deaths, usually not in a way where you go down hating everything, whereas ends typically died as a result of human actions, causing them to be collectively butthurt about humans doing human shit.
good example of that in that group is rasputin, who historically got shot a crapton of times, attempted to be drowned several times, got choked out and a bunch of other shit, rasputin is famously borderline immortal, its definitely enough to get way pissed at humanity.

>>149226208
its being pissed off that your own people betrayed you. nobunaga is different because to him getting betrayed is part of the game he fully expected someone would attempt to stab him in the back.

>>149226245
>not backing nobunaga fucking everything up and burning down hitlers empire of fantasy nazis
>especially since hes legitimately got the most famous fucking japo wizard in history.
end plz, nippon stronkest there is before wwii, and since nobodies got japans weakness of nukes, everyone else is fucked.

>>149224575
You are expecting too much from Hirano.

>>149226070
Because Hirano is a bargain-bin edgelord. Looking forward to more upside down crosses which are actually Petrine crosses and far from anti-Chrisitan, in fact the pope has one on his chair.

It's going to be Judas or some shit. Making Jesus into the bad guy and having a grudge against humans is fucking retarded considering he knew exactly what was going to happen. That was kind of the point.

>>149223681
He's the fucking Soros of that world. Wanting to ruin the superior humans(whites) and replace them with dirty half humans(everyone else and mulattos). Hitler is the final Drifter.

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>>149223681
No. HE is Jesus.

>>149226166
He literally died for our sins after pretty much trying everything he could to be a good dude. Well, bible Jesus anyway.

Real Jesus was just a radicool hippy Jewish sect leader.

>>149226265
You forgot to include the bit where after being poisoned, shot and drowned, they found that he died from freezing in the icy cold Russian water.

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>>149224773
Older anime always did stuff like that.

>>149227259
it could be historical Jesus, and not the fantasy one taught in religion.

how familiar is the average Japanese to the Jesus story? it's obvious to us because we're familiar with it, but it might not be that clear over there.

>>149224575

Read the manga. There's an omake that says they can't reveal his identity because there will be religious retards that will be mad.

>>149228295
Very. Christianity has a huge presence over there. They all know it.

>>149226070
Because humans deserve an extinction in this world. Team of the Jesus are the good guys.

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>>149224575
>expecting this much from Hirano
Hirano does only a few things good. It's violence, excessive gore and draws a somewhat unique art style.
He does not do advanced overly complicated stories. That's not to say they're bad. It's just that there will be no real twists. If it looks like Jesus, then it's probably Jesus.

>>149228295
Considering how popular Christmas is, they know the basics.

>>149227948
And body of Rasputin was lost and never found. Also his murderers has been died of a mysterious deaths.

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>>149223681
When I saw holes in his hands it became obvious that he is Jesus.

>>149228327
They may be aware of its existence, but people that self-idenfity as religious are <5% and actual professed Christian population is extremely low.

It's the same thing they do with every mythology, they just take what they like and ignore what they don't.

>>149228437
He couldve been a random Saint, but then there are just relatively famous names in Japan out there as Ends and Drifters

>>149228511
And I love them for that.
Wouldn't get female jailbait version of King Arthur and Nero without it.

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>>149228576
But Jesus is the only one known for holes in hands.

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>All these animefags thinking they're through the looking mirror

How can you not read Hirano's shit?

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>>149223713
Honestly, I think he isn't, basically because it is SO obvious that it can't be him. Probably its some sort of twist, like he being Amakusa Shiro or I don't know another version of Toyohisa from another world or some bullshit like that

What if it's Isukiri, Jesus's brother that took his place on the cross so that Jesus could escape to Japan and die a happy rice farmer with a nice family?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shing%C5%8D,_Aomori

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>a Jew is the big bad guy
who'da thunk?

>>149228675
I think it's basically just going to be the Black King and they will kill the Black King and all wonder who he was.

It's why they are making it so obvious. He can't just say it's Jesus, because it's totally his style to just have an edgy design of Jesus be the bad guy if he could get away with it.

>>149228675

>Expecting subtlety from Hirano

Were you somehow surprised in Hellsing when "She" turned out to be Mina Harker from the novel?

It absolutely is Jesus. Hirano already confirmed who the fucker is in a Volume's gag manga. the Black King says he used to be a carpenter and people would throw a bitchfit if he said his real name in the story.

>>149228633
kek

Is /a/ fucking religious or what?
Why can't they believe a jew is a bad guy? Real life Jesus was also a bad guy, creating crusades and shit.

>>149228843
Actually no, religion and churches are not a one of his comrades, said Jesus.

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>>149224690
Jesus got nailed by the wrists, though. Of course, try relying on Japan to thoroughly research these things.

>>149228675
>Honestly, I think he isn't, basically because it is SO obvious that it can't be him.
Yeah man, I mean, tobi can't be Obito it's too obvious to be true?

>>149228926

>Jesus got nailed by the wrists, though.

Wrong. Hirano did his research, unlike your Sunday schooled ass.

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I wouldn't be surprised if it was the Impenitent Thief, one of the guys what got nailed alongside Jesus that basically said 'Screw you and your old man!' to him.

It's not Jesus. His hands were nailed through so the marks would also be on outside, not only inside. Unless author hack and forgot this detail

>>149229032
I think the anime is trying to be a bit more subtle or its afraid of being as clear as the manga, I remember in the manga they show the marks the first time he appears, in the anime took a while until they showed this.

>>149229009
Actually, you gibbering retard, it isn't agreed on whether it was the hands, wrists or the space between the ulna and the radius of the forearms where the spikes were actually put. It also isn't agreed if it was a cross or a long pole that Jesus was actually nailed to since the Romans seemed to enjoy using both.

Trying to pass off something as fact even though all the research has ambiguous results. Who's the Sunday Schooled Ass?

He only has a hole on the insides of his hands, while jesus was nailed through, so if he was jesus he should have holes on the back of his hands as well. It's either bait and switch or the author is a retard.

>>149228429
>Rasputin
Kinda disappointed by his bishounen look.
Imagine the overweight promiscuous bearded man with obviously mad eyes in his place. That would have been awesome.

>>149228783
>people would throw a bitchfit if he said his real name in the story.

Who cares? He might get some angry tweets but it's not like he'd have to fear for his life or those of his associates like if he made Mohammad a character.

>>149228338
Walter being a traitor was a good OH SHIT plot twist tho

>>149229065
>subtle
I know that Japan is very bad in using any advanced storytelling techniques, but it's just another level of subtlety

>>149229140
That never looks very interesting in anime either. You really can't pull off Rasputin without that creepy uncanny valley real life look.

Like he's not quite human.

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>>149229228
>that creepy uncanny valley real life look
That's my point exactly. He is perfect as the End. No changes required.

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>>149228843
Are you fucking retarded?

For some reason Japs use religious symbols to look more badass, edgy or cool.

Even fucking hentai is full of shinto priests and monks raping shrine maidens.

There is just one religion that Japs don't dare to touch.

>>149229343
But I mean you'd need to just have real life pictures of his head photoshopped into the anime to make it work.

>>149229407
>There is just one religion that Japs don't dare to touch.
To be fair it's the only ones whose adherents will either behead or Note7 your ass

I can imagine the incredibly elaborate censorship some western studios would go through if they gave it a full release in North America

It's pretty absurd how much religious censorship has been in localized anime, even if the references don't involve any religions and simply allude to God

>>149229409
I disagree. He is similar to Ganishka from Berserk. So it's totally doable.

>>149229407
But SMT has touched them all.

>>149223681
Would explain why Joan of Arc is following him. Then again, Hirano could be going with one very old rumor that Joan of Arc was actually a pagan all along.

>>149229596
The Ends are just following him because he's the most powerful of them and offers an end to humans. Doesn't matter who he is.

>>149223681
Now you listen here OP
He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy
Now go away

>>149223681
>jesus knowing modern military tatic and air combat
even fucking ends keep asking "is this nigga realy the one I think he is"

>>149226070
Antagonist =/= bad guy

>>149228843
Don't forget the evil Inquisition and pedo priests, my fedora friend.

>>149228926
Oh the irony.

>>149229957
Yeah, this is the only thing to go off. It's definitely Jesus in every way but this. It can't just be someone from the future imitating Jesus though because of the powers.

Then again, the other Ends didn't have powers in real life either.

>>149228735
Jesus was Judean, not Jew.

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The Black King's identity is the Black King and they'll probably keep it like that to the end.

>>149230280
>THE ONE motherfucker who ascended to the heavens in life
>not having knowledge of aerial warfare
cmon breh

>>149231790

Retards still thinks there will be some plot twist after this. The author clearly stated he can't say the name because he's gonna get rekt by /a/ a.k.a. religious nuts.

Fuck humanity t-b-h