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Fusion edition
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>>149205779
I find it weird that Male - Female fusion hasn't come up yet
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>>149205830
there are no girls that fight
Get pan in the ring, she's probably stronger than yamcha at least
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>>149205779
>Fb meme
Seriously kill yourself
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Man those 2 Mai doujins are really good.
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>>149205779
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

What did he mean by this?
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Anime

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/05/09/future-trunks-arc-announced-dragon-ball-super/

>I write an outline of the entire plot, then the script writers break it up into episodes, expanding on things, changing things around, or adding in new bits as need be.

>Even I haven’t checked the final script yet.
>Let’s enjoy this together (laughs)!!

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-history-book-akira-toriyama-introduction/

>I had put Dragon Ball behind me, but seeing how much that live-action film ticked me off, and how I revised that script for the anime movie and complained about the quality of the TV anime, I suppose somewhere along the line it’s become a series I like too much to ever leave alone.

Manga

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-web-version/

>Speaking of the manga, I want to ask you two about how you put the manga together. I hear Toriyama-sensei checks the storyboards for each chapter.
>Toriyama: That’s right.

>Back when Toriyama-sensei was drawing the manga, the animators would use his manga panels as reference, imitating the composition and things like that. And now it seems that the animators are likewise using Toyotaro-sensei‘s manga as reference.
>Toriyama: Oh, that’s good! That should keep them on track!

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2016-10-26/dragon-ball-super-toyotarou/.107579

>Every month, I'll create a storyboard for him to review, and then he'll give me input and suggest changes. When I'm working with Toriyama, there are many portions he gives me props for coming up with, but he is very particular about other things and always points them out for me to correct. And when he corrects me, I think “Wow, I guess I don't completely understand the way he looks at things,” so his corrections and feedback are incredibly accurate and helpful. It's a lot of fun to be able to get closer to his way of thinking
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>>149205779
This scene reminded me of this
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THERE IS LITERALLY NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING A NINGEN
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>>149205830
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>>149205897
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-book-version/

>I’m really grateful to you. I never thought an artist like you would come along to draw the continuation of my story!
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Canonical powerranks
Roshi- moon buster
Vegeta (sayian arc)- planet buster
Super perfect cell- solar system buster
Beerus- universe+ buster
Zeno :existence buster
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>>149205830
Old Kai.
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>>149205879
He means it's suffering for him being sealed by ningens.
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>>149205779
Damn, it all makes sense now. The reason why Mai's eyes are black at one point and blue at another point. Once she fused with SSJ Trunks, her eyes became blue.
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>>149205983
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>>149205848
>there are no girls that fight
Android 18 is stronger than everyone except Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, Piccolo and Buu.
I wonder what a 17 and 18 Fusion would be like.
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>>149205983
Zeno has never actually demonstrated that power. That's pure hearsay.
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>>149205864
>knowing that it's a Facebook meme
GTFO normie. How did you know that's a Facebook meme.
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>>149205983
I know zeno destroyed 6 universes but existence buster really? Are dbfags this autistic that they bring up headcanons.
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>>149206042
Probably like this.
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>>149205983
>buster
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>>149206050
Then how did those 6 other universes die?
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>>149206073
> normie
Learn /a/ vocabulary newfag or purge yourself
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>yfw you can't have fun in these threads because you like both manga and anime
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>>149205897
>>149205945
They're never going to come out and say which is the true canon so imo, it's the Chapter 1 manga > Episode 2 > Battle of Gods > Episodes 15-17 filler > Resurrection F > Anime tournament > Manga Trunks arc

Though i know not to confuse my head canon with anime/manga canon
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>>149206050
>>149206086
Stfu
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>>149206098
Do you have evidence that they ever existed? All the universes have twins, they all add up to 13. If there were six more universes this would be broken. You've been tricked, anon.
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>>149205897
>>149205945

after ruining bardock toriyama should stfu and die
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>>149205983
Also in the latest episode Black tore a gaping wound on the fabric of reality.
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>>149205983
You forgot broly being galaxy buster.
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>>149205945
>the continuation of my story!

I'm not sure why people keep posting this, to prove its more canon? Toriyama isn't writing it, he's basically handed story duties over to Toyotaro at this point. The plot outline he provides must be really small. I think at one point Toriyama even said he wouldn't mind stories taking place before EoZ as examples of what "may have" or could have happened.

Toyotaro will also probably have to leap ridiculously far through he Black arc if he wants to finish it and be ahead of the anime by December or January.
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>>149206181
lol but the manga is not canon, anon XD

anime is the real canon now XD
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>>149206228
buu could do that too
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Anime is more cannoner than manga because manga is not by author but author rights anime.
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>>149206230
Broly will never be canon
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>>149206182
>All the universes have twins, they all add up to 13.

Anon. I think you need to check your head.
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>>149205983
>this world
Use this image it's more clear.
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>>149206329
What?

Less dragon ball, more english, faggot
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>>149206182
>>149206050
Zeno is a genocidal monster, like Majin Buu only worse, just accept it
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>>149206217
Fuck off kid.
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mfw c18 is real
mfw
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>>149205779
So will ZAMATWO have significant ki drain since he fused while SSR?
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>>149206330
>Your
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>>149205983
I dont give a fuck about our canon shit at least mention broly being able to destroy a galaxy.
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>>149206406

No. SSGSS is about complete ki control.
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>>149206397
How big is your dick?
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>>149206326
Buu could only open a portal, it wasn't something that would cause damage.
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>>149205983
Don't listen to the stupid Brolyfags.
Canon shit only
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Wait, shouldn't the Mafuba had killed Trunks?
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>>149206485
Tien used the Mafuba in DB and didn't die.
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>>149206517

No he didn't. The pot broke in the manga so he tried fighting Piccolo instead.
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>>149206485
i think if it fails you get to live
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>>149206326
The way Black did it was far more impressive. Buu had to assume the shitting position while Black only had to wave his stick around. Not to mention that Black was able to make some clones from the reality rips. Black's version is actually useful in a fight.
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>>149205983
Broly is infinite buster you bitch.
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>>149205830
Old Kai and Toriyama said that the gender depends on who is dominant, though if both are pretty dominant, then the result would be a new-half. So it would look like a women, but have a penis.
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Wow you guys are so autistic you make the xenoverse thread on /vg/ look like heaven.

I'm out.
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>>149206343
and this
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So why does Bulma look most attractive after 30 years and having a kid?
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>>149206485
It can lead to death, that doesn't mean that the person necessarily will die.
Kami-sama tried to use the mafuba against Piccolo in the original dragonball, but Piccolo trapped him instead, and he didnt die.
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>>149206673
She's 38, right? Hard to believe she still has another kid coming up.
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>>149206710
Actually by Resurrection F she's 46
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>>149206576
How long before we get SSG and SSB Broly?
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So are we just ignoring Trunks learned how to successfully use the Mafuba by watching a video and it took Goku all day to learn?
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>>149206748
Patience brother.
He will be above existence buster.
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>>149206406
Even if he couldn't power down, it doesn't matter since Zamasu is immortal. The whole thing about Ki is it's stamina based. Your Ki doesn't get used up, you just have trouble tapping into your power when your stamina goes down. That's why Goku says to Vegeta in the Buu saga to just give him some time to rest and power up and then he could beat Buu.

It's also why Freeza was getting weaker, he has piss poor stamina when trying to use 100% of his power and was starting to get really weak.

Being Immortal means INFINITE stamina. Zamasu doesn't get tired at all, he doesn't need to sleep, he doesn't have a limited life span and the energy doesn't strain his body at all.

Even if he was weaker then either Goku or Vegeta, eventually they wouldn't be able to stop him because his power will always be at Max.
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>>149206767
DBS Goku is borderline retarded tier, I'm surprised that it didn't take him more time to learn it.
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Anyone have that webm of ssj4 broly being btfo by champa?
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>>149206673
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>>149206798
Remember when Goku learned the Kamehameha in like 3 minutes?
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>>149206767
Trunks is good at puzzles
His mom is a genius
Tien learned it faster than Goku
Your mother's a whore
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>>149205897
why do you keep posting this same shit every thread?
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>>149206340
>1 and 12
>13
>2 and 11
>13
>[...]
>6 and 7
>13
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Literally perfection
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>>149206374
That's not how people on /a/ think, though. They still won't recognize the fact that xXx...Beerus...xXx is a bad guy because "it's his job".
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>>149206860
Zeno buster right there.
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>>149206710
Bulma must be one of those women that can still have babies at 50.
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Hey ningen,

My name is Zamasu, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are weak, retarded, no-lifes who spend every second of their day beating each other up. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever even looked in the mirror and admired yourselves? I mean, I guess it’s fun hitting people because of your own insecurities, but you all take to a whole new level.
Don’t be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I’m pretty much perfect. I'm a prodigy in Universe 10, and I'm pretty much a Kaioshin. What sports do you play, other than “beat eachother with clubs"? I also make tea, and have a banging hot girlfriend (I just blew me; Shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.

Pic Related: It’s me and my bitch
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>>149206842

Are you... Are you an idiot?
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>>149206878
Yeah. I accept the "it's his job" excuse for guys like Galactus, but Beerus clearly takes a lot of sadistic pleasure in being a petty asshole that lords his power over others.
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>>149206920
Not canon whatever.
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>>149206934
What? What's wrong?
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>>149206830
its how autistic people work anon, he thinks that by posting the same thing repeatedly it means he is settling an argument. Normal people would wait for an argument to show up before trying to prove it wrong but autistic people will try to "ORGANIZE" possible arguments before they start.
Just ignore him, eventually there will be a train or something nearby and he'll run out to see the trains.
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>>149206920
And then broly got so angry he busted the whole db verse and your moms pussy.
Bitch
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>>149206964

Beerus is bad at his job. If he was good at his job, Frieza would be dead, Buu would be dead, and the Saiyans would be dead.
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>>149206842
holy shit you're retarded.

do you like get grants from the government or did you manage to find a job somewhere? I never thought I would see an adult that cant do sums.
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>>149206985
Neither is Broly.
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>>149206985

About as canon as Broly
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>>149207116
Frieza worked for him.
Frieza moves? Death ball, Death beam. etc? All of them were red and black ki, exactly like beerus.

Beerus told Frieza to kill the sayans.
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>>149207116
Even Zeno told off Beerus for being bad at his job. Then again, it seems that Zeno's problem was that he wasn't destroying enough planets, even though a few episodes earlier the Kais were complaining that he was destroying too many.
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>>149207116
>Beerus's job is being a hero of justice
No dumbass
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Explain how a 35 year old created character is the best waifu the past 10 years.
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>>149206042
Shame that Piccolo being a top dog always goes nowhere.
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>>149207200

Pretty sure stopping people from getting too strong and stopping people who fuck with the universe is Beerus' job.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/11540766
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Would Zamasu prefer to have his dick sucked or ass fucked
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>>149207210
She isnt annoying- chichi
She isnt a whore-bulma
She actually helps and fights along the z fighters- 18
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Wasn't it stated that Freeza was next in line to be the U7 God of destruction?
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>>149207198

Zeno is pretty sociopathic given how casual he was about wiping people out of existence for simply being concerned for him.
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>>149207210
I'll stick with my waifu, thanks.
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>>149205830
Elder Kai, nigger. Do you even Dragon Ball lore?
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>>149207244
No dumbass, watch BoG.
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>>149207200
You're right. However, Beerus should have gone after Buu out of a selfish desire to preserve his own life. If the Kaioshin dies, so does he.
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#NingenLivesMatter
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>>149207379
He was asleep.
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why didn't they use mafuba on buu
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>>149205983
So what kind of buster would yamcha be?
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>>149207210
Why do you kids throw that term around so much nowadays? I've had the same waifu since I was like 11. A waifu is for laifu, you know.
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>>149207443
ground buster
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>>149207402

Because he's bad at his job.
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>>149207443
Omiverse
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>>149207443
L buster
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>>149207430

The entirety of the Buu arc happened in a day and it got really real real fucking fast.
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>>149205983
Did buuhan freaking out and almost ripping the universe apart not happen in the manga?
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CANON
DB minus -> Jaco the galactic patrolman -> DB manga (chapters 001-517) -> Son Goku and his friends returns! -> DBS manga -> DB manga (chapters 518-519)
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>>149207512
Nope that was filler.
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>>149207430
Because Goku didn't think about it and Piccolo was only ever thinking about being stronger and they were sure they could KILL Buu. The second they came into a situation where they couldn't kill him, that's why Piccolo remembered the Mafuba because it was used on him in a similar situation.

Having outside knowledge, viewers often think of the characters as stupid for not realizing something that should be 'obvious'. But often we don't remember something until sparked by something else. So the situation is realistic.
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>>149206576
this is the same scene he gets btfo by champa in one blast right?
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>>149206485
Every thread. Roshi and Mutaito died because they were weak old fucks. Kami and Piccolo used it just fine.
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>>149207527
Parts of the anime have to be canon, because Gregory is now canon. Apparently Hell was Toriyama's design, too. I figure everything in the afterlife as shown in the anime is canon. Which includes stronger than Vegeta Yamucha-sama
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>>149207200
that's Zamasu sama
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>>149207527
>Son Goku and his friends returns!
This was removed from canon
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>>149207601
>I figure everything in the afterlife as shown in the anime is canon
No, Toriyama's hell is eternal punishment with no escape.

Toei's hell is just a place where the dead villains hang around.
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>>149207502
Man, I keep forgetting that there was no waiting in that whole arc. The tournament was hosted before Noon, the whole getting to Babadi didn't even take a few hours, Buu hatched and then proceeded to fuck shit up, Goku attacks him and cuts his time on Earth down.

Then Buu builds a house after killing Babidi, Satan befriends him and then Super Buu happens and it's not even late afternoon.

Yeah, it literally happened in a day, what the fuck. There was never any time to formulate another strat after Goku suggested Fusion.
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>>149207527
Canon.

Bardock the Father of Goku
Jaco the Galactic Patrolman
Dragon Ball (Manga) - History of Trunks
Yo! Son Goku and His Friends Return!!
Battle of Gods(Movie)
Resurrection of F(Movie)
Dragon Ball Super (Manga)
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>>149207601
> gregory is now canon
Still anime exclusive . You dont see him in the dbs manga.
> hell anime canon
Nope it contradicts itself with the new hell that we saw frieza in rof
> stringer then vegeta-yamcha
Even though in the manga dr gero compared his power level to sayian saga goku which was around 8000 and 24000 with the kaioken which is still weaker too recoom 40000
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>>149207684
>Bardock the Father of Goku
Not him but no.

Dragon Ball Minus is more canon then that
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so will goku and vegeta fuse or will trunks fuse with vegeta
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>>149206383
fuck you and your garbage new-canon
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>>149206578
Or both a penis and vagina.
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What did buu mean by this?
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>>149207210
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>>149207751
Yamcha beats Olibu on one shot who fights with Pikkon, and keeps up though is outmatched. Pikkon is stronger than Cell, who is SSJ2 level. Vegeta had to suck off Babadi to achieve that level.
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>>149207757
Nah the final scene of Bardock the Father of Goku
is seen in the original manga. Minus hasn't been mentioned in any canon works yet.
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>>149207869
> filler
>>149207875
Jaco is in super.
Minus fast the last chapter of the jaco manga.
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>>149207860
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>>149207875
>Minus hasn't been mentioned in any canon works yet.
Uhh, Minus is directly tied into Jaco the Galactic Patrolman
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>>149207851
hurr durr I absorbed Vegetto but it didn't increase my powers like before
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How old is Trunks now anyway?
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>>149206397
nah

c18 is literally a down syndrom slut
the girl in your picture is just a slut
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>>149207851
Well buu is older then time itself. So he probably haa no idea who beerus and whis or even zeno is. So by getting rid of the strongest mortals he thought he was hot shit.
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>>149207952
Future Trunks is like 34
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>>149207952
Around 30-32
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>>149207684
>>149207527
Is the DBS manga really canon? It's outline is by Toriyama but it's probably super small, it's not written/story boarded/closely scripted by Toriyama with a lot of detail, he just looks over Toyotaro's storyboards. He does that with other non canon Dragon Ball stuff as well sometimes.
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>>149207044
i respect his dedication. It's the fucking dumb Toeibabbies that ruin every thread, this will atleast make sure that everyone knows it's pure bait when they come trolling.
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>>149207967
>>149207987
He and Mai act like virgin teens...
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I'm kind of sitting here thinking now....

Zeno is the king of all, was Zeno always the king of all? What was there before Zeno? Can Zeno be overthrown and someone else becomes king?

Like, I'm just thinking if Zeno is actually some kind of race, and outside of these universes, are they all contained in a greater universe? Are there other King of Alls, that run their own bubble of universes? How far does the chain go?

It's just weird also that in RoF movie, Jaco says he doesn't want to discuss galactic theology, so like.... hasn't there been enough proof that these beings exist? As viewers we have definitely seen them, but like...

If this little nigga is the king of all, why does he bother with attendants, why does he create order?
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GT is better than S, i talk whit my friends an they say GT is better because GT have SS4 who is mos powerful than SSB, if you dont think this is becouse you are dumb
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>>149208110

Zeno is basically Yahwei. He probably created existence because he was lonely.
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>>149208110
>I'm kind of sitting here thinking now....
>God is the king of all, was God always the king of all? What was there before God? Can God be overthrown and someone else becomes king?
>Like, I'm just thinking if God is actually some kind of race, and outside of these universes, are they all contained in a greater universe? Are there other Gods, that run their own bubble of universes? How far does the chain go?
>If this little nigga is the king of all, why does he bother with angels, why does he create order?
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>>149207919
>>149207902
Not really, Minus is a volume omake. It's no more canon than that one image from the DBS volume where Sorbet says they were skipped.
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What did old kai mean by
> he was afraid of me
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>>149208089
Well, he's a wizard and she's a christmas cake.
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>>149208110
Toribot is the Creator
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>>149208165
if old kai die, beerus die
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>>149208165
He was afraid of me dying.
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>>149208156
lol
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>>149208155

Yeah and I guess the good thing is that like God, Zeno is just made up so in the end really it is all stupid shit made on the fly.

Nigger.
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>>149208165
He has beerus nudes.
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>>149208165
What translation is this?
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>>149208089
shut up normie
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>>149208165
Afraid of his mad Mario Kart skills
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>>149208165
>>149208208
this guy gets it
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>>149208270
Japanese to English
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>>149205779
Why doesn't Goku just become Crono again?
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>>149208270
Viz media.
Official english shonen jump
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>>149208165

If old kai dies, Beerus dies. By sealing old kai in the sword, Beerus literally has nothing to worry about when he sleeps for a bazillion years.
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>>149208165
Le Reddit Cat Man was afraid Our Guy Old Kai would bring out someone's powers and then that person would kill him.
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>>149208330
Except when a younger jobber kai gets chosen and decides to pick up that sword to fight.
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>>149208330
until Dabura destroys the sword in Future Trunks future
oops
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>>149208208
He died but Beerus didn't die

How does that work? Did Beerus's soul shift to be bound to the twink kai's?
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>>149208415
yes
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>>149208292
Beerus needs to die
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>>149208415
Beerus is connected to all the kaioshins.
If they all die he dies.
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>>149208395
>>149208402

Yep. His plan worked for a while, but it didn't last forever.
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>canon (chronological order)

JACO - DB minus (manga special)
JACO - The Galactic Patrolman
DRAGON BALL (manga chapters 001-330)
DB - Trunks The History (manga special)
DRAGON BALL (manga chapters 331-517)
DB - Son Goku and his friends returns! (manga special)
DRAGON BALL SUPER (manga)
DB manga (chapters 518-519)
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So, since they made everyone forget about Majin Buu, does that mean that as far as normal people know all "evil" people on Earth suddenly died without explanation?
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>>149208494

They explain this in the epilogue.
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>>149208156
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>>149208491
Nope, still this >>149207684
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>>149208156
>minus is a omake
Shit, toeifags are so retarded?
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>>149208564
Why is Freeza so cute?
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Majin Boo & Co.

How did Bibbidi make Majin Boo? What process was there, what were Boo’s ingredients, etc…
Though in the manga Kaiōshin said that Bibbidi made him, the truth is that one called “Boo” was not actually created by Bididi, but has existed since time immemorial. He cycled between rampages and long hibernation. During numerous iterations of this cycle, he absorbed the evil elements of mankind, becoming steadily more violent. Bibbidi merely knew the means of calling Boo from out of his long slumber. Since the current Boo is a slightly different life-form due to the changes brought about when the evil Boo was expelled, it’s not known whether he’ll still go into long hibernation.
Majin Boo is invincible, but where does he get his energy from? It can’t be from all that candy he eats, can it…?
He doesn’t particularly need energy. It’s just that he likes candy.
*By the way, since the bad Boo was pure evil, he was easily purified in the afterlife, and was able to be reincarnated as Oob right away.
Please tell us (quietly) the spell that Bibbidi left behind in his notebook to seal away Majin Boo.
It’s unpronounceable for humans. Putting it into letters, I guess it’d be something like “Nuwemwittsimwawaay”.
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>>149208156
it depends on who's word you take on "canon".
I'm sure they credited it in the Official 25th Year anniversary Jump's Dragon Ball time line.
I don't like that "official" timeline much t b q h but it is worth mentioning.
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>>149208611
>minus is a omake
Except it is, retard.

>toeifags
>implying
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WHEN
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>>149208668
I love it when Goku wears blue, though Toriyama's favourite colors are green and orange so we may not see it for a while.
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>>149208636
I hate it when toryiama keeps his headcanon to himself and only talks about it during interviews. Like the origin of 17/18 names and launchxtien relationship.
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>>149206558
Roshi failed and died
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>>149208626
It's only fitting that the "strongest" in the universe would also be the cutest, wouldn't you say?
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So is everything canon because Zenoverse?
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>>149208165
Who was it that sealed the Elder Kaiōshin away in the Z Sword?


The Kaiōshin (who create planets) and the Gods of Destruction (who destroy them) have never gotten along that well, but once every 1,000 years they go to each other’s realms and hold a coordination meeting. At this time, they got into an argument over some trifling thing, and a certain short-tempered God of Destruction sealed Elder Kaiōshin away inside a sword. Naturally, it wouldn’t have been proper for him to destroy the Kaiōshin Realm itself. By the way, that God of Destruction was Beerus.
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>>149207875
THIS

everyone forgets that minus doesnt completely retcon the bardock special
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>>149208520
I forget, what was the explanation?
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>>149208764
No. That isn't how canonicity works.
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>>149208713
>launchxtien relationship
What?
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>>149207527
you forgot revival of f
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>>149208755
Absolutely.
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>>149206578
>>149205830
Toriyama stated in an interview that a male female fusion might also look a bit like a drag queen.
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>>149208564
I think Super would have been better if Sorbet was a little cutey instead of an ugly old man. Then he could have been starstruck in the presence of Frieza and it would have been more impactful when he was destroyed by one of his, deflected, blasts.
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>>149208795
yes it is
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>>149208764
[Xenoverse] is video game "extended universe" canon which doesn't apply to manga or anime continuities until stated otherwise.
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>>149208636
How can one be older then time itself?
Shit makes no sense.
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>>149208854
Can't be as only the heroes can get cute points it's a conspiracy to set the kid minds
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>>149208845
I'm glad you agree.
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>>149208916
time within a certain universe. Some universes pre exist others and Zeno probably existed in a void before our known universes.
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>>149207443
If I'm being generous, I fully believe that Yamcha could , in fact, fire a Kamehameha into the core of the plate and destabelize the core enough to cause it to explode. It'd probably take all of his energy to do that but He might be able to.

But beyond that I'd say he's plenty strong enough to blow up the moon or even larger planetary bodies.
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why didnt someone go back and get sorbets ring, and use it on blacked?
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>>149208941
Everything was peaceful nothingness and then demiurge ruined it all
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>>149208883
No, it isn't. See: >>149208887
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>>149209011
>thinking you're bullshit onion means anything
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xenoverse is not fucking canon

it borrows from canon manga shit, shit that cant happen in any canon (some dbz films), and stuff that is maybe canon (db online)

it is one giant clusterfug
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>>149208941
Zeno?
Akira was talking about buu.
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>>149209054
hes not a bullshit onion
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>>149206552
>>149206517
Kami used it and didn't die. and Piccolo reversed it and didn't die. I think it just takes a shit ton of life force to use, similar to the Kikoho. But characters as strong as Piccolo, Goku and Trunks are powerful enough that it wouldn't kill them like Roshi or Mutaito.
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>>149206798
>DBS Goku is borderline retarded tier, I'm surprised that it didn't take him more time to learn it.

Not when it comes to fighting techniques
>>
sheev (senate form)

vs

21st budokai goku or kamesennin

?
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>>149209055
It's all alternate histories, which means everything can work.
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>>149208156
>>149207875

Some of the biggest additions from Minus appear in the Jaco manga proper though (Saiyan armor Goku, rather than Baby Goku)
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>>149209054
In what way does Xenoverse affect the manga? It doesn't. Nor does it adhere to it. It borrows from the anime, manga, movies, specials, and other games. That's extended universe material. It's taking from everything with the words 'Dragon Ball' on it. It isn't canon, however, and it doesn't canonize the extended universe material It's its own thing.

Don't be a dick.
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>>149206767
Toei turned Future Trunks into a mary sure because of his popularity
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>>149209133
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>>149209076
yes but what I'm saying is time is relative to the universe you were spawned in. They could easily write it as Buu existing since before time existed within Universe 7.
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>>149207267
>Helps
A little I guess.
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>>149208836
Tenshinhan mainly does farming in addition to his training. He can split into multiple bodies and grow extra arms, so harvesting the crops goes quickly. He was found by Lunch, who fell in love with him at first sight and had been constantly pursuing his whereabouts, and even reluctantly lived together with her; but she wasn’t cut out for farming, and Tenshinhan has no interest in romance, so she left after just a few days. After that, it seems Lunch apparently stops in from time to time."
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>>149209201
>literally hercules
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>>149209216
Ma nigga tien is hella gay or he is a fuckboi
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>>149209201
>anime
Not canon, anon
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>>149209187
Fuck off with your "author = canon" bullshit. It's a retarded mindset inherited from Star Wars nerds. The author can decide what is canon, but stuff he doesn't personally write isn't inherently non-canon just because he didn't write it.
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>>149209199
He is pretty intelligent and had a video of the technique that he could repeat as many times as he wanted.
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>>149209199
This. Toei is getting really annoying with their blatant favoritism. What makes it worse is what they did to Goku. They even ruined Vegeta by making him whipped. It's disgusting to watch
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>>149209186
>implying you can't put Saiyan armor on a baby
Doesn't it stretch to any size?
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>>149209302
no shit. bardock character/special is canon because he liked it
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>>149206042
>>149206088
From the 3DS game
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>>149209199

I don't think you know what mary sue means
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>>149209302
it has nothing to do with authorship but different mediums having different continuities.
A videogame based on pure fanservice doesn't need to adhere to the manga or anime canon continuities and it peacefully exists as "extended universe" video game canon. That's the best answer (you)'re going to get.
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>>149209308
He can supposedly use god ki for no good reason. He's somehow keeping up even though Zenkai boosts aren't a thing anymore.
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>>149209331
You gonna puke next episode then cause goku and vegeta are gonna be on their asses again while trunks is the only one standing.
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>>149207210
>80 years old by Future Trunks's timeline
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>>149208223

As with all religions.
>>
mai was so hard when she saw trunks doing the mafuba
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>>149209401
Nah, she's in her late 50s.
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>>149209392
I always hated half saiyans. While Goku and Vegeta work really hard Gohan and the others can just train for 5 minutes and grow stronger than them
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>>149209471
pretty sure it's 41 + 17(future timeline) = 58
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>>149209471
Actually she's probably in her late 60's since Future Bulma was 60-65 and Mai is older than her.
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>>149209460
She really was.
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While I don't really like DBS F.Trunks bringing back the pilaf gang was the worst decision anyone could have made. In a series where we have multiple universe busters we have Toei wasting a few minutes of an episode on Mai's assassination attempt on Black
>>
anyone else got a good chuckle when Zamasu was screaming during his mafuba process?
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>>149205779
one question: was 64 good or not?
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>>149209485
Genetics bruh
>>
What happen if Boo turns Zamasu or his fusion into candy and eat him, even if he's immortal?
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>>149209172
Sheev easy.
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>>149209263
He's been living with Chiaotzu for what, thirty years?
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>>149209575
Who is universe buster besides the gods of destruction and the angels that we know? I dont think goku and vegeta are on that level yet.
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>>149209641
I assume that Adorable Praiseworthy Zamasu is stronger than regular Vegito, so he'd probably just humiliate Buu in candy form.
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>>149209575
>Toei wasting a few minutes of an episode on Mai's assassination attempt on Black
That part probably wasn't in the outline written by Toriyama, so it's Toei's fault.
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>>149209707
Regular Zamasu was stronger than the Vegito Buu fought. Everyone relevant is.
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>>149209517
Yes...that means she's in her late 50s...which is what I said.
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>>149209722
If the manga has it too then it is.
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>>149209742
i'm a different person as to who you were arguing with initially t b q h f a m
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>>149209739
We don't even know if Buuhan was weaker than Beerus, don't go saying things like that
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>>149209485
Don't worry all the other half saiyans except Future Trunks have been thrown into the trash. Soon he'll be gone and we'll finally may have a decent arc. Seriously at EoZ Vegeta and Goku actually seemed like they were best friends so Toriyama and Toei should show that happening Super. Instead we have a rivalry which pales in comparison to their old one
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>>149209745
>If the manga has it too then it is.
Mai's assassination attempt will most likely not happen to extent it was portrayed in the anime. Only time will tell because we're still playing catch up.
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>>149207443
Ballbuster
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>>149209575
Pilad, Shu, and Mai are worthless but you should always expect Toei to pick bad options
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>>149206042
>>149209362
But could 1718 even TOUCH Arale18?
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>>149209795
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>>149209302
See: >>149209385 I won't respond again because you don't actually want to discuss things.
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>>149209575
Battle of Gods brought back the pilaf game. The Goku Black arc just gave them (and by them I mean Mai) something to do.
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>>149209795
>We don't even know if Buuhan was weaker than Beerus, don't go saying things like that
Goku says that even fusion wouldn't be enough to beat Beerus, and also mentions that SSJ God was beyond any power he sensed before. So, yeah, Buu Saga Vegeto was weaker than Beerus.
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>>149209852
I wish someone from DB would recognize them. Yamcha is our only hope to get rid of them since he doesn't mind killing.
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>>149209860
Because she fuses with a "serious" character, Arale's gag powers disappear making her weaker. Even so, she's still a tough opponent!
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>>149209936
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>>149209362
>1718
>Not 17.5
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>>149209902
In what world do we live in that the Pilaf gang is more relevant than fucking Piccolo?
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>>149209833
Maybe the resistance won't even be important or exist in the manga, but let's see.
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>>149209936
Even if they recognize them, I doubt they'd kill them. Piccolo, Vegeta, 18 and Buu did far worse and they're considered good friends.
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>>149209970

Nah, in spite of the serious default face, her personality is actually Arale's, and she keeps the goofy attacks like running over people in addition to Android 18's Z-style attacks like beam blasts.
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>>149209979
After the tonal shift all the early DB gags were removed for good reason. Super is really just a half assed combination of DB and DBZ
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>>149209991
>1718 rounds to 17.5
americans
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>>149210072
>After the tonal shift all the early DB gags were removed for good reason.
They came back by the time of the Buu Saga though.
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>>149206165
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Reminder, that Vegito shows soon and probably stuck here for some time.
Suspiciously in right time.
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>>149210027
Goku only spares people if they can give him a good fight. He tried sparing Tao but he massacred the red ribbon army. Also I'm pretty sure Bulma wouldn't let her kid spend time with people who tried to kill her if she knew
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>>149210074
I don't think you understand. 17+18 rounds to 17.5. I was saying that I think it would have been a better name than 1718.
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>>149210115
THE PLOT THICKENS
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>>149209852
It was Toriyama who brought them back though.
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>>149210095
Buu Saga was pretty serious unless you think Buu eating everyone and stepping of egg chi chi was a gag
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>>149210150
>Goku only spares people if they can give him a good fight
And he'll only kill people if they try and fight. Since the Pilaf Gang won't fight he won't bother.
I'd be more worried about Vegeta killing them.

>Also I'm pretty sure Bulma wouldn't let her kid spend time with people who tried to kill her if she knew
You mean like Buu?
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>>149210166
just stop it already, you are embarrassing yourself
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>>149210115
>implying Chichi would let her "half-husband" fuck another woman
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>>149210197
and Toei decided to use them. Whoever came up with Future Mai should be shot even if it is Toriyama
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>>149210297
who is that twink?
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>>149210231
Fat Buu never tried to kill her
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>>149210226
Did you miss all those parts with Gotenks?
>>
I hope Vegito won't unfuse too soon. I want to laugh at the funny shit this ensues, like beerus suddenly more scared of Goku/Vegeta or just Vegito interacting with friends. We have never seen such things before, the fusion lasted nothing. I hope this won't be the case again.
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>>149210257
she was most likely there too getting fucked.
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>>149210257
Bulma might able to seduce Chichi.
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>>149210323
Gowasu's new fuccboi.
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>>149210323
That's Gowasu-sama.
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>>149206822
kids usually learn faster than adults
>>
>"My power has surpassed my own understanding"
>stabs hand and pulls out scythe he uses only once
>tears open a rip into the pink dimension
>endless gas clones come out of there and surround Goku/Vegeta

I can accept some retarded bullshit, but all this at once is too much. Put the fucking pipe down Toriyama
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>>149209214
She has saved Trunks many times, has also Saved Vegeta and sent them all back in time
>>
Since Toriyama isn't ignoring DB anymore it's hard to take Super seriously since the fucking rabbit could beat Zamasu. Buu could also beat Zamasu
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>>149210392
>Put the fucking pipe down Toei
fix'd
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>>149210297
I hope we see Gowasu again after this arc, he deserves a cute little assistant to replace Zamasu. Maybe even a girl for some fucc, who knows.
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>>149210392
It was fucking retarded

>Vegeta: what's that?
>Black: I don't know lol xD

God
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>>149210428
He already has Kaioshin-chan.
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>>149210428
cute assistant kais are not for fuccing
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>>149210339
Toriyama was originally going to end Dragon Ball with Vegetto being permanent but he changed his mind for some reason. It was probably because Goku and Vegeta were too popular while Vegetto appeared in the last few chapters
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>>149208709
Blue gi means master/elite

they used it at the end of Z to signify that Goku was at the pinnacle and was to train Uub as his master.

Unless they do a time skip past the end of Z we won't be seeing it
>>
>>149210392
>>149210436
It was fantastic seeing something besides laser blasts and punches.
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>>149210115
fuck off salagir
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>>149210493
So kid Goku was a master? Please stop with your bullshit
>>
>>149210468
Do you have a source? I'd like to read it because it sounds interesting.
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>>149210458
>you spin me right round, baby, right round
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>>149207751
Frieza was sent to solitary after pikkon stopped his uprising in hell
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>>149210468
>Toriyama was originally going to end Dragon Ball with Vegetto being permanent but he changed his mind for some reason
You made this up.
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>>149210493
>Blue gi means master/elite
I don't know if I'd go that far, you have to understand that his gi was blue early in the arcs of Dragon Ball.
It really only just symbolises his character coming full circle.
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>>149210465
good thing Supreme Kai isn't an assistant
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>>149210539
That was GT and I think the Dragonball movies
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>>149210599
Pre Master Roshi training he wore blue.
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Has Vegito happened officially yet?
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>>149210628
>>149210579
Forgot about that

but yes he switched to red when he had a teacher and actually began practicing with someone besides his grandpa
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>>149207443
Straight busta
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>>149210633
yes he has, in the Buu saga
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>>149210493
Nice headcanon.
>>
>>149210468
isnt this Dragon ball multiverse plot?
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>>149210458
Why is he in the washing machine?
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>>149206576
Oh my god, is that real. Is that SSJ4 Broly. Nobody would ever create something that dumb. That's bad by even fan fiction standards.
>>
You guys should trying to understand Toriyama. Seriously for someone who's favorite character is Piccolo and whose least favorite character if Vegeta it really doesn't show
>>
>>149210776
I believe it's from Fusion game where you can have SSB Vegitto fuse with SSB Gogeta
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>>149210776
It's Dragon Ball Heroes what else would you expect?
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>>149208165
OK if this guy gave Goku his life does that mean Goku is connected to Beerus?
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>>149210566
Then why did we see him with cell and other watching goku vs kid buu?
Because filler not in the manga
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>>149210468
>he changed his mind for some reason.
If I'm not mistaken he was forced by his editor. Anyway, if Vegito stays really here for some time and they don't change date of Bra's birth, then this >>149210115 anon is right.
>>
>>149210885
No
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>>149210885
it's more likely related to the "seat" of Kaioshin and the role. Since Goku isn't, he's just tied to the current Kaioshin until further elaborated upon.
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>>149208849
>Toriyama is so senile he forgot Old Kai exists
Someone just put this fool out of his misery already.
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>>149210816
Hey man he was forced by fan popularity and his editors to do a lot of things. Remember the android saga his editor then didn't like 19 and 20 so he made 17 and 18 but then his editor didn't like them either so he made Cell
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>>149211002
No fucking way
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What did toryiama mean by this?
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>>149211051
That's famously true. The Vegito thing is bullshit.
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>>149210074
That gif made me chuckle. I wasn't expecting a daily dose.
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>>149209517
>>149209533
>Mai is the Tsunade of the new generation
She needs bigger boobs.
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>>149210983
shut your filthy whore mouth, the witch he fused with literally looks like Old Kai to begin with already.
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>>149210547
>>149210577
>>149210714
>>149210468
Come on guys Vegito defused because of Buu's "miasma" or some other stupid bullshit. It's obvious what happened here
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>>149211063
he's a cuck for his no good gold digging whore girlfriend.
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"Leave Vegito to me"
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>>149211002

It wasn't even his editor. It was a FORMER editor and someone he respected.
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>>149211128
Yes, that Toriyama was as lazy in introducing a way to defuse as he was in introducing the Potara. Fuck off with your headcanon.
>>
>>149209707
>>149209739
>being this retarded
>Zamasu literally shown being beaten by SSJ2 Goku
>SSJ2 being easily beaten by Buuhan
>Base Vegetto toying around with Buuhan
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>>149211063
Yamcha is a woman buster
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>>149211182
Leave Zeno to me.
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People don't understand the potential of the timerip that Black caused. Here's how I'm thinking things will go down
> Next EP Goku/Vegeta/Trunks get their asses kicked, so Goku and Vegeta have no choice but to fuse using the potara. Trunks has to stall for time as Zamasu^2 knows what's going on
>They fuse into Vegito and kick Zamasu^2's ass, simultaneously breaking his pride and mocking his status as the supreme god
>Zamasu^2 realises just how big of a threat Vegito is and how ningen in general are, and utilising the scythe trick creates a timerip on a FAR larger scale then before.
>This new rip threatens the space-time continuum; nowhere is safe and only Zamasu (and Zeno) could survive it. Every universe, every timeline, every mortal, everything will be eradicated.
I don't know what to say afterwards, but perhaps this is where Zeno comes in.
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>>149211063
He made a mistake it's supposed to be girlfriends. Yamcha had a confirmed harem
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>>149211071
>not being prepared all thte time
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>>149211235
So what's the deal with the Drakengard 2 Wings?

Does that mean he's become an Angel?
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>>149211128
So you pulled that out your ass. Got it.
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>>149205779
Nothing happened in this fucking episode. The trailer already revealed Zamasus' fusion, but it happened in the last seconds. WTF is wrong with this anime
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>>149211281
It's an ability called Wall/Ring of Light that's Beerus' Hakai as a ranged AoE. Because he's fucking invincible.
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>>149211283
I'm not him since I'm not a retard who can't spell Vegito
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>>149211063
Yamcha doesnt give a fuck the guy was fucking plenty of chicks.
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>>149211331
It's Vegetto you retard. VEGEta and KakaroTTO. Vegito makes no sense
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>>149211331
Vegetto and Vegito are both correct spellings, Anon.
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>>149211236
I'm thinking

>Oh shit we're getting our asses kicked
>Supreme Kai let's go back to our time
>Zamasu follows them back
>Black part of Zamasu is destroyed just by being back in the past
>Zamasu get's jarred
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>>149211402
That's retarded.
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>>149211341
>Yamcha dumped the richest girl on the planet because he was done with her
>Still hangs around at her house and drinks her lemonade
>Vegeta is willing to die for Yamcha
Yamcha is a god, that's all there is to it.
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>>149211341
Yamcha is the only normal z fighter of them all. Uses his ability to get money and easy chicks. Who cares being the strongest if you can build your harem.
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I swear if Toei pulls this stupid Goku forgetting something gag again I won't rest until they cancel Super
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>>149211402
It was said before that Black was going to become a villain that even Zeno notices. Perhaps my theory is the way he notices.
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>>149211429
It fits though

Otherwise Zamasu is immortal and they'll have to use t he Zeno button to even hope to stand a chance.

They could fuse all the live long day but they'll eventually run out of power where as Zamasu will not
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>>149211236
Nah, Future Whis will pop up and do the same thing his other self did in Revival F and give them a do over by rewinding time back again. And before you ask, remember how long 5 minutes is in DB world.
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>>149205940
t. Ningen
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>>149211341
Bulma's a lying whore.
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>>149211493
Future Whis' batteries were destroyed.
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>>149211341
I get the yamcha meme now he embodies the casual chad.
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>>149211331
only vegetto is the correct one, stop being retarded
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>>149210297
you would almost forget they were in the last episode. they might as well give the potara and leave

>>149209460
>>149209571
so many Mai sceencap opportunities this episode
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>>149211493
Future Whis is in hibernation since his GoD is dead.
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>>149211493
Future Whis is in a coma because Beerus died
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>>149205983
Zeno can't destroy people, just their universe. Which is why he has body guards

That is to say if someone Kai Kai to his place and there are no guards, or you take him out by surprise with no guards
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>>149211523
Eh, let them have the dub terms, Anon. It all means the same shit. I use Vegetto myself, but I'm not about to attack someone for using the spelling they see in all the western DB media they consume. It's not like s/he's a subber.
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USE THE SOLAR FLARE YOU RETARDED MONKEYS
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>>149211528
I'm waiting for somebody to post a cap of them from last episode
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>>149211567
Whis specifically said he can destroy worlds, universes, or individuals in the first episode of this arc.
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>>149211341
I can't take this seriously.
1. Because Bulma never Divulges what Yamcha did.
and
2. Bulma's been insanely jealous from the time her and Yamcha started dating if other girls so much as looked at him.

For all we know some girls asked to feel his muscles and he bashfully let them.
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>>149209722
That was one of the only parts worth watching.
You all have shit taste.
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>>149211567
What's with every other anon having a stupid heacanon?
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>>149211630
Half of these fucking ningen aren't even watching the show.
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>>149211567
They aren't "bodyguards". They're referenced as "attendants", just like Whis, and also were shown using his speed ability. So, they're probably angels too, just with a different function thus the different appearance.
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>>149211063
Whelp guess tien is the only virgin of the z fighters.
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Is Trunks the biggest genius in Dragonball? He learned the Mafuuba much faster than Tien and Goku.
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>>149211623
I bet you think Raditz should've died to the farmer with a shot gun
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>>149211281
He apparently has some kind of superior God Ki. Goku talks about it in the preview.
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>>149211716
He's what would have happened if Gohan wasn't a cuck.
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>>149211716
He's the retard who thought Ultra Super Saiyan was a great idea so no
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>>149211744
So Goku and co will learn how to use this superior ki I am guessing
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>>149211716
the brief genes are strong

also half-saiyans seems smart, gohan is a nerd too, dunno about goten because he's the most underdeveloped character in db
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>>149211716
Well, he's Bulma's son.
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>>149211715
he fucks Launch. Toriyama confirmed
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>>149211744
Oh god we're heading to the point where everyone has their own special ki?
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>>149211716
He solved the Buu saga because he didn't half to deal with stupid fighting gorillas in Goku and Vegeta or retards like Supreme Kai.
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>>149211772
Everyone has done stupid things in battle though.
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>>149206485
Not as a rule, no. It's just very taxing depending on what you are trying to seal.

Trunks is many millions of times stronger than either Kami or Roshi at this point, and Zamasu is considerably weaker than him (base form Trunks is stronger than Goku).
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soon
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>>149211812

That already existed.
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>>149211716
4 months. If Frieza wasn't a lazy piece of shit he'd march his way into Zeno's palace and would rape his oval face.
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>>149211583
You're only allowed to use Solar Flare twice. That's the rule.
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>>149211797
>>149211716
>>149211799
Yeah no Vegeta should've just wished the saiyans back
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I can't wait to see Vegitofags in despair when Zamasu spanks him.
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>>149211799
>posting family pic with non matching hair colors
absolutely haram
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>>149211869
Zeno would CTRL X Frieza.
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>>149211772
Ultra Super Saiyan WAS a great idea you guys just have shit taste.
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>>149211858
Excuses don't help your case
>>149211865
No the rule was that it kills you. Toriyama just forgot. it's not like it's the first time either. I don't see the problem DB was never consistent and you guys really don't need to cover for every mistake
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>>149211839
say that to my face and see what happens
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>>149207443
Himen buster
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>>149212010
Supreme Kai had such a punchable fucking face back then. I'm glad that he's a cute twink now.
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>>149211839
Except Trunks caused the Supreme Kai to die thus killing Beerys because he stopped training for seven years until he found about buu. He's the only one able to protect earth but he's a lazy shitter
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Why didn't Zamasu finish off Bulma? Did she trick his stupid idiot ass?
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>>149212081
Plot Armor
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>But toei made goku an idiot bleeeeh
When will mangafags ever learn
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>>149212080
Except that you're wrong. He kept training everyday since he defeated the androids and Cell.
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>>149205940
>https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2016-10-26/dragon-ball-super-toyotarou/.107579

zamasu don't agree
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>>149212139
The manga is not canon you fucking retard
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>>149212081
If anyone died in Trunks' timeline they'd need the super dragon balls to wish them back to life and I don't Champa would give two shits unless Goku presses the button
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>>149212131
he's an undead soul meddling in the affairs of the living. He was correct to not to play Guardian Angel and defend planet earth if his successors had the chance to defeat the threat.
The flanderization by Toei is completely different than what you posted.
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>>149206767
Super's Goku is established as a senile idiot, actually dumb enough to forget important equipment to beat Zamasu, not once but twice, to the point Bulma needed to join up so he won't fuck up and yet he fucked up anyways.

In DBZ he always mastered techniques quickly, Kaioken and Spirit Bomb are insanely hard techniques and only Goku mastered it despite Yamcha and Tien also spending considerable time at Kaio's.
He was the one to discover a way to push Super Saiyan even further beyond Ascended Super Saiyan (SSJ2) and created a rather unnatural transformation that made him a powerhouse for Buu Saga (SSJ3) and even taught it to Gotenks.

In DB he learned Kamehameha in a matter of minutes just by seeing Roshi do it once. He was considered a fighting prodigy throughout DB and defeated an army of demons.

He was a capable protag who was made into an absolute retard in DBS yet he still steals all the focus. Only person dumber than him is Gohan at this point, which is quite ironic since he's suppsoed to be the smart character in the Z cast.
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>>149212170
>mentions stuff that is in the manga
>i-it's not canon!
Looks like the only retard here is you.
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>>149212080
he at least didn't let Buu to slide of as Goku did in Present.
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>>149206929
Isn't Zamasu supposed to be Black's bitch?
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>>149212131
Better than our Prince who decided blowing himself up was a great idea
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>>149212131
That is pretty retarded of him letting 7/8 yo kids being the earth guardians.
Like the cell saga it had its moments where it could have ended there if it werent for brainless protagonists.
Vegeta against cell.
Krillin with the androids.
Gohan with super buu.
Thats why frieza saga is the best no stupid bullshit excuses to prolong the arc.
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>>149212010
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>>149212170
the only canon is manga! anime is just shit filler
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>>149209199
Trunks is the main hero in the Xenoverse games so they need him to be cool
It took Goku an entire night to learn the Mafuba because he's clinically retarded as shown by his short term memory problems, Trunks took five minutes to learn it because he's -not- retarded.
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>>149212255
So your favorite character is still a pitiful loser
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>>149211591
they were in the last episode. just.. being useless
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>>149212170
even though they're supposed to be equal and distinct continuities, the manga will always be more canon than the anime simply because Toriyama works closer with Toyotaro inside Bird Studio with actual oversight and reviewing of storyboards instead of just letting Toei milk the franchise with their filler tier content.
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>>149212223
>and even taught it to Gotenks.

Not canon. In the manga, Gotenks figures it out for himself in 2 weeks. He doesn't show the kids his SSJ3 form.
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>>149212312
Xenoverse is irrelevant go back to /v/. Besides Bardock is the main protagonist in Xenoverse 2
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>>149207443
A ballbuster
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>>149212208
The entire world died because Goku was a retard yet again. Goku's dumb in all shapes and forms.
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>>149210268
>Whoever came up with Future Mai should be shot even if it is Toriyama
B-but Toriyama knows what is he doing, if he got that idea.
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>>149209214
She has done more for the fate of the earth than any of the non-saiyan Z fighters contributed towards since Cell, and I wouldn't even count that since Tien and Krillin are basically Super Humans and Piccolo is Namekian.

As far as regular humans go, she has contributed alot and is the eternal waifu. She is also mature because she's like 50-yo at that point with the body of a 20 years old.

Trunks won the game.
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>>149212342
Why are there so many Gohanfags hating on the best boy itt? Are they jealous because he is relevant and Gohan isn't?
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>>149212377
Toriyama hardly works you retard. He gives a list of some plot points and then goes off to spend time with his family. He only worked on BoG because he was pissed about DB Evolution. He's been tired of Dragon Ball for ages why else do you think he's been telling Toyatoro to do his own thing. It's because he couldn't give a shit
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>>149212442
Honestly Buu saga Goku is a complete psychopath.
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>>149212170
Oh wow hahahahaha
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>>149210893
They were let out to watch the biggest fight in history
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>>149209936
even if Yamcha tried, which I doubt he would, somebody would stop him
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>>149212463
No she didn't she's baggage that isn't needed waifufag
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>>149212487
He hardly works on the anime you mean, he actually genuinely cares about the manga. Even if his oversight and reviewing is minimal at best, that's still better than zero oversight he has on Toei.
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-history-book-akira-toriyama-introduction/

>I had put Dragon Ball behind me, but seeing how much that live-action film ticked me off, and how I revised that script for the anime movie and complained about the quality of the TV anime, I suppose somewhere along the line it’s become a series I like too much to ever leave alone.

Manga

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-web-version/

>Speaking of the manga, I want to ask you two about how you put the manga together. I hear Toriyama-sensei checks the storyboards for each chapter.
>Toriyama: That’s right.

>Back when Toriyama-sensei was drawing the manga, the animators would use his manga panels as reference, imitating the composition and things like that. And now it seems that the animators are likewise using Toyotaro-sensei‘s manga as reference.
>Toriyama: Oh, that’s good! That should keep them on track!

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2016-10-26/dragon-ball-super-toyotarou/.107579

>Every month, I'll create a storyboard for him to review, and then he'll give me input and suggest changes. When I'm working with Toriyama, there are many portions he gives me props for coming up with, but he is very particular about other things and always points them out for me to correct. And when he corrects me, I think “Wow, I guess I don't completely understand the way he looks at things,” so his corrections and feedback are incredibly accurate and helpful. It's a lot of fun to be able to get closer to his way of thinking
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>>149212377
>Toriyama works closer with Toyotaro
we cant say that for sure. Toriyama works with Toei too
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>>149212312
Goku learned the Mafuba in seconds. It was the accuracy of hitting the pot that took him some time. Trunks had Mai playing catcher so it was infinitely easier.
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>>149212529
Goku, Piccolo, and Vegeta wouldn't stop him and nobody cares about present trunks except for Bulma and Goten
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>>149212562
>Toriyama works with Toei too
no he doesn't, the most he does it send them a barebone manuscript. He had to address their shitty animation quality over an interview to get them to step up their game.
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>>149212532
Literally no argument: the post
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>>149212388
Time Breaker Bardock is the antagonist as far as i'm aware.

> Xenoverse is irrelevant go back to /v/
Super is irrelevant to DBZ.
YOu fags come on /v/ and make off-topic DBZ threads all the time and no one bats an eye, fuck off and deal with the fact people can talk about related cross-media IPs.
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>>149212558
>his oversight and reviewing is minimal at best.
Why do you even bother when you've just disproved yourself
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>>149212382
It happens in the anime and that's the material most people refer to but sure if you want to go that path, we'll go with that. Doesn't change the other stuff.
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>>149211903
delete your post
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>>149212639
because minimal oversight is better than zero oversight of Toei. What is there not to understand?
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>>149212609
How has she contributed other than being a damsel for Trunks?
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>>149212532
> I don't like her so she didn't do anything!

Chichifags burn in hell.
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>>149212665
His minimal reviewing is him telling Toyatoro to stop copying him
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I'm fucking tired of all the arguments about what's canon, I asked Toriyama and he told me this is what's canon.
>Dragon Ball Evolution
>Dragon Ball Z episode 125
>Dragon Ball Z Broly the Legendary Super Saiyan
>Dragon Ball GT
>Dragon Ball GT 1997 Live Show
>Dragon Ball Super episodes 44-46
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>>149212674
> Damsel

She allowed him and the rest to escape twice by diverting Black's attention, she helped rebuild the vase, she lead the resistance and kept what remained of humanity alive so Trunks won't be burdened with their safety in addition to fighting Black.
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>>149212674
>muh damsel
Read >>149212463 again. She saved Trunks many times and even saved Vegeta. Not to mention that she's constantly risking her own life helping the survivors escape from Black.
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>>149211715
Piccolo has no dick.
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>>149212056
Supreme Kai looked like someone already punched his face back then.
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>>149212767
>>149212785
Holy shit the bullshit that was the smoke bombs counts as her contribution? You guys are pathetic just go fap to your waifu
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>>149208415
>Old Kai died
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>>149212733
shiet I love those Cell and Freeza
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I LOVE BEERUSSAMA!
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>>149212714
>>149212714
Toyotaro is one of the saddest people I've ever seen. He's only worked on Dragon Ball stuff. He should be ashamed
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>>149211903

BAKAYARO!!

https://youtu.be/VnLIrqA2fxA?t=1m11s
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>>149212660

I don't care about the other stuff. I'm just correcting wrong info.
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>>149212916
He stated multiple times that it's literally his dream job to work along side Toriyama sensei. Keep projecting your sad life my dude.
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>>149212947
In the maga, does Gotenks just magically learns about the Super Saiyan 3 form without ever interacting with it in any way, shape or form beforehand through some manner of interaction with Goku?
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>>149212872
She is being pretty fucking helpful for someone who is just a regular human. Stop being a fag, anon.

>>149212916
He is happy, so who cares?
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>>149212520
>Not in the manga so not canon
Also during in super frieza in hell has his mecha look
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>>149212873
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>>149213008
The same way Goku magically learned about SS3.
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>>149212916
Back when Toriyama-sensei was drawing the manga, the animators would use his manga panels as reference, imitating the composition and things like that. And now it seems that the animators are likewise using Toyotarō-sensei‘s manga as reference.
Toriyama:
Oh, that’s good! That should keep them on track!
Toyotarō:
Really?… I still can’t believe I lucked into this job (sweat).
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They never explained why Humans and Saiyans would produce a powerful hybrid that can breed as well.

Why? What's so special about Humans that allow them to create super offsprings with Saiyans?
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How are pilaf's trio kids in super, again?
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>>149213008

Pretty much, yeah.
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>>149212872
> I don't like it so it doesn't count!

This is getting embarassing. That goalpost keeps getting moved around anon, I can't properly play football like that!

No one claimed she's as strong as as the saiyans. Just that she has contributed. She doesn't need to shoot massive energy blasts to prove that. If anything the only way to defeat Zamasu now is to rely on a human technique like Mafuuba.

So shut your whore mouth already and admit you're an ass.
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>>149212974
His dream job is to be Toriyama's errand boy? That's hilarious
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PAULI PUTO GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>149210665
kek
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>>149213040
he died from incineration while Dabura's petrification spit ability was still in effect.
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>>149213059

Double the monkey
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>>149213115
Relax anon Mai isn't real
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Do the nips argue about cannon and Goku's characterization as much as we do?
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>>149213184
yes
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>>149213059
Toriyama has said hundreds of times that he was making shit up as he went along.
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>>149213125
>literally having the priviledge to continue the most legendary manga in history and make your sensei look smart in the process.
it's a dream job

So far Dragon Ball Super has followed Toriyama-sensei‘s plot, but I think it might be interesting for Toyotarō-sensei to become more involved with the story-writing process from here on out!
Toriyama:
Good idea!! I bet it’ll make it more interesting to include Toyotarō-sensei‘s original ideas.
Toyotarō:
T-That’s so much pressure… (sweat). But I think it’ll be really cool to help Dragon Ball someday reach its final chapter.

Toriyama:
Oh, that’s good! People will go “Wow, Toriyama-sensei planned it all out from the beginning!” and I’ll look really cool (laughs).
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-web-version/
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>>149213043
He didn't magically learn, he had 7 years and continuous experience and interactions with all Super Saiyan forms beforehand. Back then he was actually kinda smart. Goten and Trunks are literal dummy kids who only learned fusion a few weeks before thay achieved SSJ3.

>>149213081
So, like I thought, another asspull from Toriyama's magnificent writing ingenuity.
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>>149213040
>Yamcha pose
holy fuck how have I never noticed this
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>>149212170
jesus christ dude....just.
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NEW >>149213225
>>149213225
>>149213225
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>>149213184
Yes.
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>>149213059
Shitty reason to replace Goku with Gohan. Thank God it didn't work since no matter how retarded Toriyama, Toyble, and Toei make Goku he'll never be as bad as Adult Gohan
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>>149213171
I never claimed she was. Only that you're wrong.
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>>149213237

Yep. The only reason SSJ3 exists was to make the situation worse.
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>>149213216
That's belongs to llone wolf and cub
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>>149213254
That artstyle looks very canon.

Is this scan canon or are you playing tricks on me?
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>>149213024
And trunks has blue hair
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>>149213059
wasn't it because their human blood with all emotions and autism it brings with it enhances their saiyan powers
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>>149213171
>anon just destroyed my "arguments", so i'll just tell him an anime character isn't real
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>>149213284
Goddamnit Toriyama. Every day I find out more and more things I never wanted to know about DBZ that convince me the guy had no idea what he was doing and DBZ's success was sheer luck of the draw.
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>>149213324
It's canon
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>>149213040
There was a new kai by that time.
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>>149213391
MOTHERFUCKER LINK ME THE SCANS NOW OR I WILL MAFUUU YOUR BAEE
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>>149213499
What?
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>>149206920
>SUPERNOVA.webm
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>>149213245
That shit is so iconic it's literally the move Yamcha teaches you in Xenoverse 2.

That's literally HIS technique. The memes are too real.
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>>149213681
You said it's canon. Give me the chapter.
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>>149213802
I didn't though.
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>>149213303
this

>>149213249
the ningen was right

>>149213077
its a one panel manga, also explained in bog i think

>>149212601
they were the ones who suggested trunks arc

>>149212487
he wrote fnf script

>>149209668
thx senpai
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>>149213391
>It's canon

>>149214075
You fuckin with me boy?
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>>149214350
That was someone else.
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>>149214681
Why did you reply when it had nothing to do with you?
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>>149214791
I just felt like it.
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>>149214818
I'll fuck you with a razor.
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