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Can we all agree Dark Horse is probably one of the worse companies

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Can we all agree Dark Horse is probably one of the worse companies when it comes to printing manga
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Are there even any good ones? If they're not fucking up translations or mirroring panels to make it read left to right then they're printing it on paper so shitty tabloid newspapers wouldn't touch it, and one thing they all have in common is that they take forever so by the time they release volume 2 the manga has been finished for years and probably fully scanlated.
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>>149191748
I would say the 2 Planetes Omnibus are the best things they've released
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>>149191959
I forgot about that, I need to buy them at some point.
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>>149191130
gits & boti say otherwise, faggot
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>Ikki Tousen
>Battle Royale
>Keith Giffen
>TokyoPop

thank god they died, too bad he is still alive
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They're inconsistent. Their Cardcaptor Sakura omnibuses are great but I'm still buttmad they haven't released a new Kekkai Sensen book since February 2015, literally before the anime even aired. They have enough time and resources to reprint the old volumes with the anime name spellings but they can't put out a new book in well over a year? The tanks are already five volumes ahead and DH picked up the series almost as soon as it got serialized so scanlations never took off, this is bullshit.
But no they still aren't anywhere near the worst, that's Yen Press.
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Fuckers could do reprints for Appleseed vol.1
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>>149192726
This is pure bullshit
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>>149191130

They've sucked about 200,000 dicks.
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I don't keep up with manga publishers, why are they so bad?
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>>149192986
Blurry scans, bad translations, not included colored pages, changing covers, flimsy material, and in Dark Horses case make some god-awful omnibuses and keeping series out of print and expensive. I'm pretty railed Dark Horse just fucking discontinued Eden with a few volumes left to go
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>>149192986

and of course the spines
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>>149193249
How is it possible for them to be this fucking incompetent?
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>>149191130
>Jewpiss got so butthurt, that they have to start their own hate thread for other companies
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>>149192726
ya might wanna re think that since Dark Horse reprints usually results in this
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>>149193375
Gantz isn't even the most incompetent thing they've done

That tittle belongs to Kekkaki Sensen
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>>149191130
>cancelled drifters after 3 volumes

Yeah they are shit, but Tokyopop is even worse. I've seen fan translations with higher quality that was Tokyopop would shit out at times.
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I only buy hardcovers
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>>149193481
Seven Memes are quite bad too, pretty much the gg of manga licensing.
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>>149193481
They announced they where bringing back Drifters

https://twitter.com/DarkHorseComics/status/792127566148608001/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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>>149193412
>>149193480
>>149193249
Jesus.

I wouldn't buy it just for those shit spines, goddamn.
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>>149193601
What a bunch of businessmans. Wish US manga industry was at French level
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>>149193495
Still don't like how Kodansha basically held Vinland Sga hostage with ransom saying if the latest volume (think it was volume 7) didn't sell enough, they would cancel the series
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I don't understand how they fuck up so badly when their Mignolaverse and Usagi Yojimbo omnibi are so good.
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>>149193495
>hardcovers
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>>149191748
>Are there even any good ones?
seven seas
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>>149194282
What's wrong?
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>>149192618
>too bad he is still alive

You shut your whore mouth. Giffen is a great comic book writer.
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>>149194282
Quality post, please post more like these.
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>>149194322
>>149193495
Not the other anon, but there is nothing more reprehensible to me than those hardcovers that have the image directly on the cover. Fucking eyesores like terrible school textbooks and dictionaries. Worst form of binding.
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>>149194342
keith please

>>149193481
ikki tousen translation is the worst thing ever
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>>149194208
Probably because there aren't manga and are basically the only two comics by Dark Horse that sell
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>>149193495
>>149194322
This is the worst trend to happen to American published manga in recent times. These fucking cheap hardcovers are just downright terrible.
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>>149194502
You don't like art things? Supercovers are awful
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>>149194502
As opposed to what
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>>149193481
I've never trusted Tokyopop ever since what they did with the Initial D manga

Which is a shame Because I really want to get the GTO manga but n one is willing to pick it up for a reprint
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>>149194322
This is an odd cover but I'm having trouble finding the right way to describe why it's odd.
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>>149194322


Poor fags cant afford quality
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>>149194502
>Worst form of binding.
This. Not to mention the cheap material they use for their hardcovers will fall apart over time if you actually read the things.

High quality manga printing in Japan is half the price, uses perfect binding and is far superior.
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>>149191130
>Teizokurei Daydream
>Status in Country of Origin: 10 Volumes (Complete)
>Dark Horse (6 Volumes - Dropped)
>Latest Release(s) - v.9 by MangaTranslation (3409d ago)
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>>149194880
>Not to mention the cheap material they use for their hardcovers will fall apart over time if you actually read the things.
This explains why my used vol 3 had a fucked binding.
I bout the whole set and im scared to read it for that reason
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>>149194880
There are some fans in Japan that actually import the Origin manga from the US as a type of collectors edition given the quality of the book
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>>149194965
Well firstly, I don't know if your claims are even true. And just because they do it doesn't mean they are right about the quality. Sounds pretty fishy and stupid.
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>>149194880
>High quality manga printing in Japan
>toilet paper
All my sides
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>>149195030
It might just be because Vertical went all out with the pages and had every single one of them laminated
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Additionally, beyond the poor material and binding quality of the books, there's also the shit editing. People are getting scammed for this amateurish shit.
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Y'know, times like these I'm glad Viz is some what competent most of the time and haven't had a major fuck up with a manga in years
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>>149195191
>poor material
Dude every page in the Origin manga is high quality and laminated
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>>149195030
They are right about the quality. The Vertical editions of Origin are very nice.
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>>149192618
What's wrong with Giffen?
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>>149195368
>>149195598
>DUDE LAMINATED PAGES
1. Poor quality casewrap material
2. Bad choice of case bound binding which is prone to breakage, not a good choice for manga
3. Shit editing

No amount of lamination (which is not even an objectively good choice for manga printing) will not save this disaster. The quality overall is poor. These books will literally fall apart if you read them more than once over the course of a few years.
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>>149196051
Why are you posting pictures from google? It's pretty obvious you make judgements about "physical" quality based on internet pictures. Did you even see shitty japanese paperbacks?
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>>149195847
He born.
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>>149196181
You can strawman and blatantly lie all you want, but it doesn't change the fact. I've seen, touched and read the hardcover manga releases from Vertical and Viz. I also own a sizeable collection of imports from Japan. Additionally, I'm experienced in book production. I'm far more qualified to comment on this than you are. You're simply arguing from the perspective of defending your purchase (you were ripped off).
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I bought Planetes recently.

Pretty good tbqh
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>>149196263
>strawman
>I also own a sizeable collection of imports from Japan.
post them
>I'm experienced in book production.
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>>149196453
The fact that you can only reply with greentext, personal attacks and saying ridiculous things like "all Japanese manga printings are shit" speaks volumes. You can't bring up a single legitimate point to support your argument whereas I've laid out in detail what is wrong with the books and have provided examples. End yourself, pleb.
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>>149196592
Post proofs of your handsome collection
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>>149196262
But how is he related to manga or Dark horse or whatever?
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>>149191130
Seeing the examples in this thread, I guess I got extremely lucky with the few series I bought from Dark Horse. The Planetes omnibusses are great. Lone Wolf and Cub and Samurai Executioner omnibusses are pretty good also (you get used to reading form left to right quickly). In fact, with every manga I bought I have been lucky. Only some small production mistakes like one volume being larger in width than the other.
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>>149196825
>Battle Vixens/Battle Royale
>English Adaption by Keith Giffen
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>>149196825

He did some poor localizations for TokyoPop.
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>>149193412
What the Fuck
it's bad enough that the new anime wants you to feel guts suffering now the manga has to as well
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>>149196592
You literally have done biting but do what you're accusing him of doing.

Post collection or fuck off and be wrong.
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>>149194322
Looks good on the shelf but impractical to actually read.
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>>149196051
>DUDE LAMINATED PAGES

And lots of color pages. And lots of translated interviews, comics, and artwork about the series. And they listed to feedback and the translations noticably improved after volume 2.
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What dumbass buys hardbacks looking to reread them multiple times in this age? You buy them to look pretty on the shelf. You buy paperbacks to read without worrying about damaging them.
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>>149198512
But they don't even look nice. The cover designs are so terrible everyone flipped out when Vertical first announced them.
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>>149193480
>>149193412
>>149193249
Do people really care about stuff like this? Do you all have OCD?
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>>149193412
Poor burgers
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>>149198745
>4chan
>Not having autism.
It's like you don't even realize where you are right now.
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>>149198745
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>>149199136
You don't have to be autistic about it though.
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>>149199236
That should be illegal
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They wouldn't be so bad if they weren't so expensive.

It would be nice if at least one company would use cheaper paper so we could get some manga that's not ridiculously overpriced.
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>>149198745
When put on a shelf stuff like that sticks out like a sore thumb.
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>>149198745
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>>149199447
I might notice it after being in the room for 30 minutes, go "huh" and then promptly forget about it.
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>>149199241
I don't even have a stake in this at all, just browsing. But just looking at their collections triggers my OCD, if you understand anything about it you'll know it won't stop gnawing at you until you do something about it.

>>149199236
Do they still sell the previous novels in the old format or do they release them in the new format for reprints once they change it? And I'm talking about in general for all of their series not just this one.
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>>149199577
Yeah my brother was diagnosed and he has to fix shit all the time, I'm a dick so I like to fuck with his disorder. That must suck.
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>>149193412
wew
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>>149194717
I like what Viz did with Master Keaton. Thick bendable pseudo hardcover stock that still looks good.
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>>149199236
Good god, they must be doing that on purpose.
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>>149199236
I got really fucking mad now
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>>149194208
That is mostly coincidence since the guy in charge of Mignolaverse turned out to be an alcoholic assgrabbing piece of shit who half the editors refused to work with with them resigning in protest when higher ups told them to take one for the team. I guess that partially explains why their manga division isn't any better. Bad personnel that are kept on mostly for seniority reasons despite money losing or bad creative decisions.
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>>149193495
>hardcover mango

Yes
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>>149199527
This one must be intentional and even if not still funny
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>>149199918
Wait so was he good at his job but so shit that they couldn't work with him anymore or was he the whole reason things went downhill besides those exceptions?
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>>149200037
It is. Monk is about an OCD guy.
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>>149198941
>JPF
I still have not forgiven those fuckers for changing Planetes title that was in greek to this bullshit
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What are you talking about? Duane Johnson (yes, really) is Berserk's lead translator. That more than makes up for the shit localization.
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>>149191130
>no Berserk
>no Drifters
>no Blood Blockade Battlefront
can agree.
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>>149199957
Have they said how many volumes there will be in the Blame! master edition?
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>>149200185
Yeah, that was meh but still looks better than font in DH release
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>>149200038
Both. A terrible person to work with and apparently the reason for some really terrible creative decisions at DH with several properties that ended up being unsuccessful or just flopped hard. And DH still kept him around, which shows seniority and bad decision making go hand in hand at the company.
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>>149200690

I loved their Planetes release, very high quality paper and the book itself was gorgeous. I'm hoping they eventually re-release Berserk in that format too. I really hope they don't go with the fat omnibuses like they've done with Astro Boy.
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>>149195847
Nothing just don't put him on translation duty
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>>149200656
6 just like japanese version (though nips don't have it in hardcover)
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>>149191748
I loved eden.
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People might shit on Yen Press a lot, and they might be slow as molasses, but they have yet to drop any series despite the memes.
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>>149201010
Doubt it was his call to localize everything.
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>>149193495
>>149199957

You need to get the hard cover release of A Distant Neighbourhood if you like collecting hardocvers, it's fantastic and a gorgeous book.
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>>149200690
I guess. I bet the next vol will take them a year to release.
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>>149193495
Only good hardcover release are Viz's JoJonium editions.
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To be honest, One Peace are the worst. I have the first 3 of their Shield Hero release and it's fucking awful, the editing is worse than the scans out there.
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>>149201463
Both volumes of Planetes have been out for a while now, bit hard to find but out there
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>>149202295

Wait, the Planetes volumes are going out of print? I need to get the second one soon.
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>>149201266
That's not even localization that's just pushing his own political memes.
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>>149201926
Blame Bitch Goddess, she probably has a fragment working there.
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>>149202295
>Both volumes of Planetes have been out for a while now
I wasn't talking about DH release
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>>149191130
Not really. They've certainly gone downhill, but Dark Horse was probably the driving force for getting manga attention in the US back in the late 80's through Studio Proteus. I get that it's long before your time, but Tokyopop would regularly do rewrites, pages would often look like they were scanned from photos, and would even be crooked from time to time. One Peace and ComicsOne would also do extremely dated rewrites, Viz has sat on the rights to series they aren't publishing for as much as 20 years, Seven Seas is shit all around, as was Del Rey, Yen Press is slow as fuck and hands out DMCAs like they're going out of style, ADV was confusing because they would publish manga for series they licensed and cock up translations, and CMX was hilariously incompetent. Vertical and DMP are pretty much the only groups still consistent with any sort of quality.
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>>149191130
>over a year since volume 14 of Kurosagi
If the translation wasn't good I'd be more pissed.
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>>149191130
No idea. Why do you say that?

I don't really buy manga in English.
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>>149199236
Outside of the spines are these any good?
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>>149200873
I think they announced omnis of Berserk.
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>>149203602
Yes. I also have all 4 vols with same spine.
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>>149201826
Viz's Sunny releases are nice too.
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>>149203749
What makes them good?
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Their Lone Wolf and Cub omnibuses are quite questionable.
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>>149191130
Only thing I've ever bought from them was their second edition of ghost in the shell which was pretty great, good translation, authors notes included, paper seemed good quality too and it still looks good years later. The editions after that were censored for some reason.
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>>149203811
I'm pissed they're so small.
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>>149193249
>>149193412
>>149193480
Unfortunately, randomly changing the trade dress is common in the American comic market. DC just did it, but instead of slapping it on the new #1s they were putting out they did it at the tail end of a bunch of series, including a few minis.
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>>149203917
The normal ones were even smaller. There has to be some logic to it, maybe some arcane deal with the company who originally published it in the US, but they've been dead forever and a day so I doubt it.
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How is it? Older manga releases (especially hardcover) sound nice
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>>149203749
>I also have all 4 vols with same spine.
Do you mean the same as in the picture, or the same as each other?
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>>149203726

Really? I've been hoping for a Berserk omnibus or perfect edition release for a good while but if it was announced I would've heard about it already considering it would've been all over the board.

>>149203814

I still don't understand why they felt the need to completely omit an orgy scene yet still have an 18+ rating on the book, then again age ratings on books like manga and light novels are utterly pointless to begin with.
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>>149204448
If I recall, it came during a time when manga started entering the mainstream consciousness, but before people understood that Japan treats nudity as something that happens instead of a great evil. Having a full-on sex scene in a book that has a series on Adult Swim was a dangerous prospect.
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>>149204529
Since when is nudity a great evil?
Sex and stuff have been on books for centuries.
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>>149204605
This is America, where puritanism and pussification meet.
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>>149204651
>>149204529
Normally I'd understand but if you're going to remove it then at least take the 18+ rating off as well
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>>149201266
Of course not, it was... other people for sure. Battle Vixen and Battle Royale dialogue quality it just a coincidence. Yes, that's it, a coincidence.
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>>149204855
They probably left it for legal reasons.

>>149204879
I like Keith Giffen, but having him localize anything was a fucking mistake. Not quite as bad as the Marv Wolfman Cobra one though.
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>>149201060
Where did you get that BLAME! hardcover though? Isn't the Master Edition paperback?
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>>149199236
I almost audibly REEE'd
fucking christ
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>>149198745
It's almost as if most people who like anime have some form of autism.
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>>149199236
dear god
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I wish Fantagraphics or Drawn and Quarterly printed more manga. Their quality of printing is so top notch.
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>>149207876
Agreed. D&Q does a decent amount though. Especially now that they started releasing Kitaro. I'm surprised that Fanta hasn't done more. They are so many alt mangaka that would be up their alley.
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Is this shit still cancelled?
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>>149208072
No. Volume 8 comes out in December and volume 9 sometime next year.
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>>149207113
Those are paperbacks.
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>>149192718
>they haven't released a new Kekkai Sensen book since February 2015

Isn't, you know, a consistent release schedule one of those things you should expect? Is there some legal holdup?
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Most print manga is shit small format on shitty paper with no gutters or margins.
Only ones I've liked are D&Q and Fantagraphics, the two left in pic.
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>>149193899
>a book series a company has licensed a and selling hard cover versions of is selling like garbage

Do you think they're obligated to then continue making losses? If no one is buying there is no point for a company to not cancel the whole thing.
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>>149208177
A guy posted a picture with a hardcover earlier:

>>149199957
See?
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>>149208025
I would love if they put the amount of effort into some classic manga that they put into the EC Comics Library stuff, or the classic Disney stuff.
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>>149208383
That's not the English master edition.
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>>149208383
Look closer. That's not the English release.
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>>149208025
>>149207876

I've only got two Jiro Taniguchi manga from Fantagraphics but what else should I buy from them? I agree about Drawn and Quarterly, I've discovered a lot of niche titles of the gekiga era from them and I owe my love of gekiga in general to them.
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>>149208537
I honestly don't know that much about the manga Fantagraphics puts out right now. I just think they should expand and to something like they do with classic western comics but with classic manga instead. Each collection of the Disney Comics, Peanuts, and EC comics they put out is like a documentary for the content inside full of biographies about the creators and in-depth analysis on the subject.
Even the bara pornography book they put out had really interesting interviews with the creators.
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>>149208537
Fanta published Taniguchi? I thought all his stuff was published by Ponent Mon.
Fanta really hasn't published many manga. A couple of Hagio Moto works (which I'd recommend if you like shoujo), Nijigahara Holograph by Asano, Wandering Son, and a book about bara h-manga.
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>>149208897
>bara h-manga.
Back when their Eros imprint was around they put out a lot of porn too. They even put out a print edition of Slut Girl.
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>>149208897

>Nijigahara Holograph went out of print just as soon as I was planning on buying
If only Viz had bought the rights instead

Yeah, Fanta have published most of his books I think. I actually got A Distant Neighbourhood and Guardians of the Louvre in the post this week. Both fantastic high quality looking books which I suggest picking up if you're a fan.
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>>149208144
Thank you jesus
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>>149209409
A Distant Neighborhood is definitely published by Ponent Mon. I got it earlier this month. Not sure about Guardians of the Louvre. I assume it's published by the Louvre press or whatever like Araki's Louvre contribution was.
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never knew they localized manga
only read them for hellboy
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>>149209518

Excuse my mistake, for some reason I thought Fantagraphics published Taniguchi for some reason but I just checked both Guardians and A Distant Neighbourhood and they are both Ponet Mon.

I'm surprised by how large and thin Guardians of the Louvre was when I got it.
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>>149208391
This gif makes me rock hard.
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I'm only collecting Fate/Zero and Shinji Ikari Raising Project.

I got lucky they are still going.
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>>149193249
>22
lmao
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>>149193412
this makes no sense
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>>149209737
I have the two slipcases they've put out for the EC comics stuff and I'm going to get them all.
The Disney ones they put out are also fantastic.
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>>149194915
Fuck, I really liked that series too
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>Start reading Qwan
>Love it, buy first four, only three more to go
>Tokyopop fucking dies, leaving the series incomplete over

Fucking fuck man
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So Kodansha's Queen Emeraldas hardcover release is good then?
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>>149208072
>no rips

kill me
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>>149210419

I've been curious about it myself, I really want to own some Leiji in English. The hardcover treatment looks especially nice, I'm just hoping this is a gateway for more Leiji Matsumoto manga to be available in English. And of course, a 999 re-release in hardcover omnibus that would be awesome.
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>>149193249
>actually buying manga
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>>149204448
There's a new Kodansha reprint of GITS coming soon, unflipped and uncensored.
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>>149211097
>being poor
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The American manga industry loves cutting corners to save a few bucks. The worst crime of all is,

>Two page spread
>Printed images are full page that go all the way into the spine
>Can't see the full picture without bending the spine almost in half

Fucking die this kind of shit is unacceptable
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>>149211857
Gutterloss is a bitch
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>>149211857
Gutter loss isn't American manga industry specific. Every comics industry suffers from it. It is still the worst.
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>>149211979
I have plenty of trade paperbacks without it.
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>>149211857
Hate to break it to you, but most native manga is like that. In fact, manga artists will commonly take this into consideration when drawing their two page spreads.
The images are drawn at a certain physical dimension and printing sizes reflects that, so it's possible that you could end up distorting the image if you were to resize them so that you could have a white center break to accommodate the book's gutter.
The American manga industry is terrible, but that's not their fault.
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>>149212522
I have plenty with it.
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>>149212650
Like what?
Manga is way worse than comics for gutter and margin shit, not even lose.
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>>149191130
JewPress pls, making other look bad wont help you look better
yesterday you got BFTO in multiple thread and this is the best comeback you could think of? SAD
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>>149209518
>Guardians of the Louvre
Humanoids, the jewiest of all European publishers.
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>>149212736
Most of my trades with two page spreads actually. Manga just has way more spreads on average so it's more noticeable.
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>VIZ will release more gundamu

Nice, I will import it to my shithole

Would love if Shigurui was published in US
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>>149191748
>or mirroring panels to make it read left to right
Do they still do this? I thought it was only reprints of their older translations that are kept from left to right.
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>>149213583
Very rarely.
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>>149191130
Idk the stuff I've bought has always seemed fine.

Btw does Dark Horse buy distribution rights to manga it wants to translate and distribute or do the manga owners come to dark horse?
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>>149213799
I'm guessing it's the former, since I read a rumor that DH wanted to rescue the FotNS license after Gutsoon went out of business and Coamix told them no.
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>>149213799
They typically buy licenses same as everyone else, but they used to get first crack at seinen stuff because they were the only ones that would publish them. They used to get treatment second only to Viz, but it's been so long since their heyday it doesn't really happen anymore.
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I want to get into collecting manga, but from what I've gathered in this thread is that most publisher's quality is awful.
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>>149214740
Just collect the Japanese versions, they aren't hard to find.
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>>149214740
Just do what I do and import the tanks unless Vertical picks it up.
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>>149214740
scan and share
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>>149214833
And if they do pick it up, buy it quickly because their print runs are stupidly small.
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>>149214829
>>149214833
>implying jap quality is good
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>>149214882
Despite being owned by Kodansha, Vertical has less than 10 employees in the company. They really don't have the manpower, or the funds really, for printing runs over and over again
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>>149214740
Vertical is great, as they'll go out of their way to make sure they finish the series.

Seven Seas has no shame in picking up the lewd things.

And Viz is printing Hardcover JoJo, so they're okay in my book.

Otherwise, beware.
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>>149214959
You can find the funds for Tezuka shit.
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>>149215025
Vertical doesn't do Tezuka anymore.
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>>149214994
>Seven Seas has no shame in picking up the lewd things.

And then butchering them with poor quality work.
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>>149214740
Honestly, most publishers are at least alright. It's not like it used to be.
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>>149215177
Tell that to the Monster Girl Encyclopedia.
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>>149215052
They still have Buddha, Black Jack, and Dororo. Speaking of which, does anybody know if the DMP Platinum Tezuka stuff is any good?
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>>149214954
>implying you know what you're talking about
They have a full range of cheap shit printings to top quality stuff. You'll always have a better shot at finding a good Japanese edition of a manga rather than trying to find one of the same quality by an American publisher.
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I saw the Ghost in the Shell manga at my local comicbook store, but up upon opening it I saw it was left to right, which raise a few red flags. Later looked up that its also censured, and that theirs basically no good English release for the one of the most influential manga of all time. Pretty fucking sad.
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>>149215225
And none of those will ever get reprinted. They have the license still, but they have moved away from classic manga.
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>>149215275
There is going to be a deluxe edition for all the GITS manga this upcoming January. No flipping, no censoring.
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>>149215275
Unflipped manga was unheard of prior to 2000, and still didn't fully catch on for a few years after. Kodansha just dragged their fucking heels on GitS, and has dropped the ball completely with Akira. That fucking series has been published by three different companies over nearly 30 years and nobody ever tried to unflip it.

>>149215296
I can understand not doing any more titles, but reprinting isn't that costly and they can at least put out enough to bring the secondary market price down.
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>>149215518
Reprinting is costly if you don't think you'll get a return on your investment. I don't think the Tezuka stuff sold as well as Vertical wanted. They said that none of it is going to be reprinted.
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>>149215577
It sold well enough to leave gaping $80 holes in my Black Jack collection. It's their choice, but I still don't like it.
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>>149215275
>one of the most influential manga of all time
>gits
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>>149213799
the former
japanese publishers normally get REALLY picky when it comes to sell rights to overseas companies from countries other than USA, even sending overseer to ensure quality in printing and trasnlation, otherwise they end the contract and tell you to fuck off
oh boy but when it comes to USA publishers they happily sell the rights no matter if the USA publi butchers they manga, censor them, went overboard with localization or print them in towel paper
japanese manga companies like the white american piggu dikku
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>>149215653
I hate it too. I eventually just bit the bullet and bought them. I bought a lot of the entire series because it was cheaper than buying each volume individually.
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>>149202610
Donald Trump wasn't political back then.
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>>149215275
What's being censored? Too lazy to dig out the raws to compare, but the lesbian orgy seems pretty untouched to me in the Titan Books release.
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>>149215781

Exposing how young you are, kid.
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>>149216003
It's not that influential of a manga anon.
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>>149216003
>being a hypocrite
It really wasn't that influential, Appleseed was the one that made waves.
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>>149215275
>one of the most influential manga of all time.
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>>149214954
Depends on the series, my Dorohedoro tanks are by far the nicest books on my shelf. But even tanks that aren't as good are significantly cheaper than translated manga and I can have the work on my shelf without supporting shitty localization practices. When a localization comes out that's actually good then I'm willing to shell out the extra cash.
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>>149214740
the only awful one is Yen Press
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>>149215229
Only problem with imports is that unless you know moon runes, your screwed sideways if ya want to actually read it
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>>149217156
It's a good incentive to learn, and having material you care about as practice really speeds up the process. It's fun flipping through a book every month or so and understanding more and more of it each time.
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>>149216213
Shame about the color pages though.
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>>149217952
This. Learning moon will always be the optimum choice. Yes, it's one massive wall to scale, but once you climbed it, you're open to practically endless options. No more worries about shitty scanlations or indefinite schedules of official releases.

Feels pretty good to be able to read some relatively easier SoL/ comedy manga in raws while the scanalations are dead. Gonna keep at it and aim to be able to read some old sci-fi manga that don't have translations in the coming years.
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>>149218054
They look fine to me. Unless you mean the Viz ones in the later english volumes? I'm talking about the japanese tanks.
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>>149199527
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>>149192718
>>149208302
I'm glad there's people who share my pain with Kekkai Sensen, first manga I've collected too.

>>149201174
Truth, I collected all of Jack Frost from them when I started collecting manga.

>>149210402
At least the scanlators for this series are almost done, only 2 chaps left.
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>>149218127
>>149217952
Might try this actually though I'll probably try and get something that doesn't have that much dialog to begin with

Also I know where not supposed to talk about anything not anime or manga related, but I had a cousin who didn't know that much English so there parents started buying them English versions of Calvin and Hobbes which was there favorite comic at that time ( I'll probably get a few fuck of /co/ comments for this)
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>>149193480
>>149193412
>>149193249
>>149199236
>americans actually throw money at companies that pulls this kind of shit
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>>149219021
We don't. That's why our industry is deader than dead.
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>>149218960
I think Yotsuba is the standard beginners manga if you want something simple.
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>>149219021
Its just mainly Dark Horse that has a reputation of doing this (probably cause there mainly a comic company)

The companies that are arguable the biggest in the US like Viz and Kodansha love them or hate em are usually consistent with release dates and look of the manga (hell even Tokyopop didn't have these spine issues like DH)
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>>149199957
I have the Nauusica one and is one of the best anime related purchases I have ever made. Such a beautiful edition.
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>>149219497
How would you rate Viz and KC?
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>>149220431
Not him but they're both pretty good honestly.

Viz is probably the biggest in the American market since they have all the Jump series but despite running all these insanely long series to my knowledge they haven't dropped a series in a long ass time. Really consistent, the only amazing 10/10 release they have is the new hardbound Jojo omnibuses, but never unacceptable quality

Haven't had tons of problems with Kodansha either. They're bastards with Vinland Saga taunting the fans into buying the new volumes with the threat of canceling it if sales aren't good but other than that they seem to put care into their translations with lots of notes from the translators at the back of a lot of their releases about cultural stuff or explanations for any localizations they may have used.
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>>149192726
>>149192797
Good to see I'm not the only one.
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>>149216213

Did this series end? Because I've been meaning to go and re read it
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>>149220431
compared with countries with actual taste and quality in their translated manga like France or Italy, theyre at mid tier
cover quality are really great most of the times, but bookbinding, printing quality and paper varies a lot from series to series, its a hit or miss
not even taking in account translation, since you americans seems to love over the top localization, or maybe its american publishers trying to pander the lowest common normalfag denominator
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>>149220431
Don't really have to much experience with KC so no comment

But for Viz, it would be best to describe them as the standard when it comes to American Manga, they have the rights to every single SJ series ever released (hell they even had a monthly shonen Jump magazine and I was at a young enough age that I don't feel to much shame in admitting I bought some before target discontinued them at there magazine rack) There SIG editions are aimed at an older audience and are nice, around 2 buck more expensive ($12.99 rsp) but are a little bit bigger and have some color pages now and then. Haven't had to much experience with there Omnibus aside from the Monster one (yeah yeah, get your "Monster is overrated" comment out of the way /a/, its a bigger punching bag than your "Yen Press is garbage" one) but I can say from experience from other publishers, that 2 for 1 editions are better than the 3 for 1 Omnibuses
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>Be Nobu Horie
>Form Gutsoon! Entertainment to publish Raijin Comics, the first unflipped manga anthology in the U.S. publish at a weekly rate.
>Publish a prestige edition of your stalwart title, Fist of the North Star, specifically for the English market, with fully colorized artwork.
>Have your idea ripped off by your former employers at Shueisha, who owns more popular titles than you do, including Dragon Ball and various current favorites.
>Gutsoon ends up being driven out of business, leaving the English editions of your titles unfinished.
At least he's trying again with a digital English edition of Comic Zenon on that Silent Manga Auditions site, but given how little awareness there is about it and the fact that they publish their stuff at such a slow rate, I'm afraid they're just doing a Raijin Comics 2.0.
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>>149193481
> TFW there will never be better translations for the original Lupin III manga.
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>>149220962
I care about the series so much that I dropped it because I don't want it to end and am working up the courage to finish it, but the impression I get when I see a thread from time to time is that it's been on the last arc for a while. I don't know for sure though.
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>>149194915
>Ghost Talker's Daydream

Fucking Christ, I will never NOT be mad about that. It was the only manga series that grew on me since the first volume. I pray that shitty company goes out of business, I've been blue balled for volume 7 for the last 5 years.
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May as well ask here, anyone read this? Is it any good? Saw it at a bookstore, been wanting to read it for years but it was never translated.
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>>149193412
My Berserk set doesn't have this issue? Guess they fixed it for later revisions.
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>>149197326
>i have small hands: the post
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>>149199577
Dark horse makes large, single printings of a lot of their works. CCS hasn't gotten a second printing yet, so you're stuck with the mismatched sides. Still, not nearly as bad as people make it out to be. Aside from the sides the omnibus themselves are top notch.
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does habanero really have better golgo scans?
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>>149191130
Why even do this?
Just buy the original Japanese manga then read scanlations. That way you give money to the creator directly.
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>>149191748 In their Berserk release they call Skull Knight the knight of skeleton, and outright make shit up when things are lost in translation. Like replacing Pucks nickname for Isidro with sneakidro.
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>>149221276
The fuck, did you really fall for the Monster is overrated maymay?
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>>149192718
>>149212809

i don't use US publishing what did Yen Press do to make everyone hate them?
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>>149195298
Laughs because it was a poor Viz release from 7-8 years ago that made me swear off licensed manga and just live off tanko and scanlations.
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The US truly are a wicked and godforsaken place, my mom warned me about this.
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>>149228641
That should've been obvious by the people they picked for presidential candidates. No matter who wins, we're fucked.
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The only thing I own from them is the complete Blade of the Immortal series, which I've had no problems with, but I probably only bought that back then because I was collecting Hellboy.
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>>149191748

>Mirroring panels

What? Dude, page-flipping hasn't been done for at least 15 years. Publishers learned their lesson from autistic ret/a/rds who valued purity over readership.
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>>149229637
I think they mirror panels for consistency on older series, Blade of the Immortal did it (though actually Samura was so opposed to it, that they actually went out of there way to cut and paste panels with mirroring only when they couldn't cut/paste).
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>>149191130

I bought the DH version of Wandering Island last week. Nice volume, looks good, English redrawn signposting which I prefer over captions, and as a value add there's an essay in the back explaining the setting and visual/historical references.

It's a shame they didn't include the non-collected chapters written before the series was discontinued though, it leaves it frustratingly incomplete.
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>>149199236
My volumes all have consistent spines, they'really not like the picture you posted.
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>>149226025
>thinking money goes directly to the creator when buying manga from japan
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American manga is shit all around
>No dustcovers
>Random sizes
>Piss yellow grainy paper
>Flimsy as fuck

Such a big market yet Spain can do so much better
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>>149229834
>It's a shame they didn't include the non-collected chapters written before the series was discontinued though, it leaves it frustratingly incomplete.
Volume 2 comes out in Japan next month.
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>>149230516
This is the greatest news I've received all month.
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>>149230762
Glad to help. It's out December 22 to be exact, might make a good present.
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>>149227020
>sneakidro
Seriously?
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>>149221276
Monster is great, don't be so defensive about it.
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>>149200037

It is funny to me and I do spend my money on stuff unlike you.
Do bad as this thread shows, nobody wants to continue to pander to autistic loud retards that don't buy anything.
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>>149233880
I've read your post 3 times and I still can't figure out what point you're trying to make. How is this related to his post?
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>>149193249
I thought it was just going to be a roller coaster kind of thing
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>>149229895
Which format though?
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>>149223261
No one? Trying to decide whether to buy this or Heart of Thomas.
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>>149235308
What do you mean? They're all omnibuses.
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>>149235506
I mean are the spines all like the first three volumes, or all like the final volume?
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>>149235372
Sort of. I tried reading raws of the first volume back when I had only been studying moon for a few months so I didn't understand it very well. I don't really remember it much but it's Moto Hagio so it can't be too bad, right? Heart of Thomas is pretty much a classic though so I would get that if you want to play it safe.
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>>149229962
but those sales actually count toward japanese best seller mangas ranking, thus giving the author notoriety and giving the author an upper hand when he gets to renew his contract with their employer
on the other hand, japanese give zero fucks about overseas sales and have no impact on the author other than popularity among gaijins
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>>149235652
Final one.
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>>149235894
Which probably then answers >>149199577
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>>149191748
>mirroring panels to make it read left to right
This happened in over a decade.
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Hokuto no Ken and Slam Dunk hardcover reprints fucking when?
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Dr. Master was because they went down and took the Tsukihime manga with them. I wanted to collect them all.
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>>149220897
>they seem to put care into their translations
>when only 4 attacks in Sailor Moon are never rendered completely differently at east once
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>>149193078
>Dark Horse just fucking discontinued Eden
Well now I'm glad I never bothered buying volumes of it.
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>149235372
Heart of Thomas, Hagio Moto's art during the seventies was her best and it's a really nice omnibus. The only downer is that it doesn't include the epilogue.
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The only manga I've bought from Dark Horse were their omnibuses for MKR and Tokyo Bablyon, and I also have what was published of Narutaru even though it's flipped and censored.

>>149237666
>>149235372
Accidentally deleted an arrow.
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>>149220431
Viz is okay but they can have some quality control issues sometimes, which I think has to do with them hiring translators from other companies to do work instead of people who actually read the manga. They've also published more manga-only, actual good quality series than any other publishers - but this was before the whole Borders banktruptcy shitstorm that really hurt English manga publishers.
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>>149236136
>Hokuto no Ken
>Ever getting another English edition
Perhaps when Coamix swallow their pride and license HNK to a company who actually knows how to sell their stuff in the U.S. Same thing with City Hunter and all their other Zenon stuff.

>Implying anyone actually reads Raijin Comics 2.0.
http://www.manga-audition.com/comic-zenon/
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>>149238162
>Internal Server Error

T-thanks.
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>>149238864
I had trouble connecting to the site a while ago, but it seems to be working fine now. Try again.
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>>149192718
Even if they do release another volume all the dialogue will be in one font so you can never tell who is speaking when.

>>149193481
I own some Viz translated shoujo from early 00s, which include blogs from the translators at the back going on about their grandmother's birthday or some shit. You compare them with Comic Sans MS Paint edited fan translations and half the pages if not more are completely adlibbed - basic details you can see in Japanese RAWs such as numbers are completely missing and replaced. A character goes 'I'm 23 years old' and they translated it as 'I fucking hate New York' or something.

>>149228398
The only publisher I've found more glueing/printing errors and damage to the book than Darkhorse is Yen Press. It was a light novel and the pages were falling out and the text and illustrations were wrapped round from one page onto the next with a massive blank gap down the inside. They wanted $20 for it.
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>>149240974
>Even if they do release another volume all the dialogue will be in one font so you can never tell who is speaking when.

Are you unironically suggesting that each character should have their own special font?
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>>149241100
No, I'm saying in Japanese Nightow uses about two or three fonts in dialogue heavy scenes so you can follow who is speaking. It's not possible to tell who is saying what in the English print.
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>>149209409
Just bought Nijigahara for like 15$ used 2 weeks ago. Had tons of stickers on it and had to clean it for like 25 minutes but it was worth the savings.
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>>149241100
Here's a visual example of what I'm pretty sure he's talking about. Compare the fonts in the original with the translation. I don't have time to dig through each volume but I remember there were at least a few conversations in the manga where the speech bubbles weren't coming from a visible source so you couldn't tell which character was speaking, the more varied fonts in the original usually made it more clear although they also had the benefit of more recognizable speech patterns.
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>>149242626
While I think that Viz should have varied the font in accordance with the original JP lettering, there is nothing confusing about that exchange of dialog.
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>>149243582
Yeah, that's why I said I didn't have time to go through the volumes to find that, I just meant to show what he was saying about them only using one font. Also, it's Dark Horse.
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>>149243733
>Yeah, this image actually does not support my argument whatsoever
>And it's by a different company
Well thanks for making a completely fucking pointless post, retard.
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Wtf they do manga. I only known them as comics.
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>>149244588
They've been translating manga since the mid-90s, when they published all the Masamune Shirow stuff under Studio Proteus.
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It really doesn't help they don't sell digital through Amazon. They only do it through their own app.
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>>149244004
I wasn't making an argument though? The guy said the translation uses the same font, and the reply asked if the original had a different font for every character so I thought it would be helpful to show an image of what it actually was. What are you so hostile about?
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>>149244004
Also
>>And it's by a different company
Where was Viz even brought up in that conversation? I thought I was just correcting a minor misunderstanding.
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>>149233880
>American autists don't buy anything
FTFY
The european and asian weebs have no problem getting their shit.

>>149235372
Buy both
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Japanese manga is kinda shit, it only works since they're dirt cheap and has a model of buying/selling used books that keeps them in circulation and the money flowing.

America has nicer manga that can survive the test of time, even if the publishers are sometimes idiots.

Of course it's better to read the originals, but let's not pretend the American releases aren't generally of a higher quality. Only a handful of titles (Dragonball, JoJo, Gundam, Hokuto no Ken, Sailor Moon, Adachi Mitsuru shit, etc) get releases they deserve, in a quality format that's just plain common with American manga.
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>>149213583
>Do they still do this?
not since even before Tokyo pop downfall.

---------------------------------------------
so far I have no complain with Kodansaha (saved most Tokyo Pop roights) and Seven Seas for risking slightly more raunchy manga like Love in Hell and How to build a dungeon

Yen Press in in a limbo cause at least they are bringing a lot of LN but the fuck up here and there several times
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>>149226025
Because I hate reading scans.
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I still don't get Yen Press's deal with translating sound effects and printing the original romanji. Is really important to know what the Japanese onomatopoeia for rolling is?
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>>149249300
It's what you get when your translators are a bunch of 90s anime club nerds who feel Japanese is a sacred language with untranslatable parts that the West couldn't possibly understand.

It's *計画 means plan on a large scale.
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>>149249642
It also doesn't help that actual competent translators would have better jobs working for MNCs or other international businesses.
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>>149225829

What do you mean? Why not ask them?
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>>149249300
>>149249642
I just figured they didn't want to spend the money for someone to redraw the sound effects.
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>>149249300
It's better than badly editing in the English equivalent.
>romanji
>>149248490
Japanese books are perfectly competent. It's the mags that are low quality.
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I just want them to release more MPD Psycho and Kurosagi Corpse Delivery Service.
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They may be extremely incompetent, but at least they license great stuff.
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>>149221722
I got two of these. Always wondered what happen to raijin comics.
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>>149248490
You have no fucking idea what you're talking about. Please end yourself.
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>>149253046
Raijin was published by Gutsoon!, which was pretty much a U.S. subsidiary of Coamix, the manga editing company founded by several ex-Jump people (namely Nobu Horie, Tetsuo Hara and Tsukasa Hojo) after they left Shueisha due to corporate politics. When Raijin was discontinued after a year in publication, Gutsoon! simply left the publishing business and didn't even bother to directly publish their titles to graphic novels or anything like that.

They're publishing some of their manga in English again (including Angel Heart and a Nobunaga story by Tetsuo Hara), but this time they're doing it digitally via the Silent Manga Audition Community website they established a few years ago. See>>149238162

Unfortunately they don't seem to be doing a very good job at promoting it, since not many people seem to be aware of the site (it doesn't help that the site itself is confusing to navigate) and I'm afraid it's just Raijin Comics all over again. I'm not sure why they just don't license their titles to a U.S. publisher that knows what they're doing.
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Tokyopop tankobons were made of 2ply toilet paper or some shit. The spines have faded worse than any other books I've ever owned.

Just look at the Lupin III volumes I have, there's like three completely different tones of red on them. And god help you if they had a shiny surface like their Keroro Gunsou volumes
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>>149253924
And on the opposite end of the spectrum, here's a Jiro Taniguchi album I bought in a fucking Luis Vuitton store of all places for like €60. Never thought I'd be walking into a designer clothes shop for my mangoes

Presentation so on point it comes in its own luxury box
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>>149191130
Happy Halloween /a/!
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Their logo looks like it is ripped off from mortal kombat.
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>>149255307
I'm the ghost of bad localization, here from beyond the grave to mistranslate manga and send cease and desist letters to all fan translations while taking years between releases until eventually dropping it just before the end but I will still hold onto the rights so no one can have it.
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>>149194737
>tokyopop

Yo Tak those were some sick drifts!
Yea you said it Iggy!
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>>149257081
Darkhorse predates Mortal Kombat, child.
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Tokyopop was the worst company of them all. Towards their dying years they had paper quality worse then fucking newspapers. Thank fuck they died off.
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>>149257081
Didn't always look like that.
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Was their Planetes release any good?
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>>149213340
I'm still salty about them dropping Patlabor. You can get it officially in any fucking language other than English.
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>>149257679
Really good.
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>>149257485
At least they made unflipped artwork and the tankobon format standardized for the translated manga in the U.S. Nothing was more annoying than reading 1 and a half chapters of what was supposed to be weekly manga published as a monthly floppy.
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>>149257865
They did Patlabor back when they were publishing their manga as monthly floppies. They dropped many good titles back in the day (Area 88, FotNS) because they insisted on publishing their titles under that idiotic format.
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>>149235780
>>149237666
Yeah I really liked Heart of Thomas, guess I'm going with that one after all.

>>149247631
Not enough monies.
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I just miss the days when I could walk down to the local shop and buy a single issue of Gunsmith Cats or Ranma
It was a simpler time
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>>149191130
I have the DARK HORSE MANGA omnibus (1 and 2) of Planetes. Whats the problem?
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>ordered the first volume of Yowaped
>just realized its published by Yen Press
What am I in for?
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Can someone explain to me why english publishers love to do this :

>license some manga
>publish a few volumes spaced like 6 months apart (how the fuck does it take you 6 months to translate one volume when you are using full time professional translators?)
>suddenly cease all releases and news about the series
>hold onto the license but refuse to publish any more volumes and refuse to release any news about it
>dumbass translators refuse to work on it because "but but but its licensed i dont care if they arent publishing it for some reason!"
>series gets no translations, ever

It is a dumb fuck business model but so many english publishers do it. Why?
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>>149261102
english anime and manga localizers care about $ and messing with niche instead of caring about being decent to it's fan base
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>>149261102
Regarding 6 month, its common if they lisence some fresh monthly series. Publishers prefers to publish them at same pace as japan.

Is there a specific series you are mad about?
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>>149260939
Decent translation (for non-autistic, ordinary people), possibly with some minor slipups or cumbersome wording because they're not pedantic enough. They keep the sound effect runes in.

Their biggest slipup I can remember would be Inu×Boku SS's "smexy" instead of "maniac" as in the original. One could live with this if it weren't for the characters eventually having a discussion about "maniac" later in. This would have been a non-issue if the translator had bothered to read all available tanks before starting.
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>>149261214
yea but when the series is up to like volume 6+ in japan, and you are taking 6 months to go from volume 1 to 2, you are just pissing your customers off.

Imagine if you took 6 months to release localized versions of a game of thrones season or something. Dumb.

Off the top of my head, i remember Seven Seas had a habit of picking up licenses, releasing a few volumes, then refusing to release any more because they dont sell well enough.

I cant remember but i think the tsukihime manga official releases also stalled and some translation group had to finish it.
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Is Viz still doing that fucking shit where they add an arrow pointing to the left and write "read this way" on a lot of the pages?
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>>149261591
Regarding Seven seas, in recent years that only dropped one series because management in japan company changed, and new management was anti-bakagaijin. They didn't license another series of Strike witches and Girls und Panzer because of poor sales

Tsukihime was dr.master series, and company died during Border and Tokyopop ,so they couldn't finish series.

2009 was terrible year so may dropped series, I am still mad about Eiken
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I've never had any major issues with manga publishers. They do nice print work, and you can buy a full series for 2 bucks a book second hand and they'll be in almost pristine condition.

Oh, wait, you guys are talking about translations. Why haven't you just learned Japanese yet instead of ruining things for yourself?
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>>149261650
Far as I've seen no, only mentions it once, at the beginning of the mango.
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Man those really sound like horror stories in this thread.
Glad I don´t have to deal with that stuff here.
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>>149261956
Eh, it can easily by avoided by doing some research on what you are buying.
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>>149261152
That applies to other countries too. There's just more weebs willing to pay hence they can sustain it unlike American publishers.
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>>149253924
>>149257485
>toilet paper
>newspaper
Are you serious? It can't be that bad.
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>>149262269
Towards the end, TP simply doesn't give any fuck. Speaking of Lupin, I remember some anon doing a random check and found many instances of them flat out making up lines.
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>>149262003
Hardly. Good companies outsource all the time. Different volumes can have completely different translators, even for the same series.

If whatever you're buying doesn't have the name of the translator printed clearly on the front of the book, it's literal dogshit and you shouldn't even touch it. If it does, you then have to actually look up that translator and hope they're one of the couple that have even been reviewed and checked for consistency.

The vast majority of manga translation work is done as cheaply as possible with kids right out of college. Every so often, you might find a proper bilingual just getting started, but they'll quickly move onto much higher paid industries.

Aside from look and paper feel, there's really nothing that separates some flipped trash from brand new, shiny translations. The market is even smaller today than it was a decade ago.
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>>149262488
I don´t even know where and how you could research all that in my country.
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>>149191130
Ahem

YEN PRESS MOTHERFUCKER

Carry on.
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>>149261650
god, that was so annoying
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>>149253812
>Unfortunately they don't seem to be doing a very good job at promoting it, since not many people seem to be aware of the site (it doesn't help that the site itself is confusing to navigate) and I'm afraid it's just Raijin Comics all over again. I'm not sure why they just don't license their titles to a U.S. publisher that knows what they're doing.
I only found out about this when they announced they were taking previous chapters down. Not a big deal since I can catch up with madokami but you've got a problem when a user first hears about your shit is when your taking content down not putting it up.
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>>149261102
In terms of the volume releases the long pacing is because of the lead times involved in soliciting to and selling to bookstores.
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>>149194915
If any spanish or italian guy can scan the last volume some people will be very grateful.
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>>149201926
I have the first couple of volumes of Shield Hero, what's wrong with it?
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>>149260454
I miss when Gunsmith cats didnt have sequel
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>>149262889
>Shitting on YenPress because they licensed something you liked and can't wait the average time it takes for something to come out
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>>149264624
Nope. More like
>Shitting on Yen Press because it's shit and has bought the rights to something I liked and will proceed to spurt hot diarrhea over it and take an eternity to catch up, just like every other property they've bought up and sprayed with their stank ass liquid shit over.

But if that's fine with you, go for it.

Faggot Yen Press Shill.
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>>149264704
You literally just rephrased what I said but in a jaded manner.
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>>149264770
You missed the part where Yen Press is shit. Dense motherfucker. Them licensing Dungeon Meshi is just the shit whipped cream on top of the shit pie.
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>>149264826
>Them licensing Dungeon Meshi is just the shit whipped cream on top of the shit pie.
Aka
>They licensed Dungeon Meshi. I like Dungeon Meshi. How dare they? Now I'll have to wait just like I'd have to wait if any other company did it.
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>>149264861
Quit putting words in my mouth, shill. Yen Press is shit. They've fucked over other properties, and you are ok with it. You should bleed yourself.
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>>149264861
It's pretty fucking hilarious to see people whining about X company. They're all the fucking same. They'd cry if it was any company, because fantranslators are all retarded little children and will quit anything if you give them any possible excuse.

>>149264917
If you gave any kind of a shit about the properties, you'd learn Japanese and buy the tanks. Given you're just a retarded leech who reads C>E garbage, I don't really think you have any right to complain about any company trying to make a couple of bucks off licensing.
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>>149264964
Sure thing, kid.
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>>149264917
Ok, if you want to be a biased faggot, then I'll refute you.
Vertical.
Vertical licensed Monogatari. Or dare I say, only part of Monogatari. They started by ONLY licensing a single book of the 1st series (not even the first book). It took forever to come out, it was hard to get online, and we did not get confirmation of Bake being done. Now, after a YEAR, Bake confirmed but still not out, and divided into 3 books instead of 2 for no reason. Nekomonogatari is yet to be licensed too, so the 1st series is still not fully licensed.
And they are doing the same shit with Zaregoto.
Check mate you fucking autist
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>>149265244
Taking forever to come out is a symptom of the US book industry. Books have year long solicitations.
Vertical do need to get their shit together with day and date release on kindle though. It seems like a complete crapshoot if something is going to show up digitally or not. The only publisher that worse in that regard is Seven Seas.
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>>149265244
>divided into 3 books instead of 2 for no reason
The Bake books are significantly bigger than the others in the series, dividing it into three makes each of them about the size of Kizu and lets them keep the price standard.
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>>149265244
>and divided into 3 books instead of 2 for no reason
The Bake books are divided in 3 in Japan too in the new edition.
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>>149230141
What are dustcovers?
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>>149266421
something which i'm having a hard time understanding why that anon is upset about it, last book i bought that had a dust cover was moby dick in the fucking 90s. always hated them too, just threw them away.
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>>149267509
Manga in JAPAN has dustcovers.
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>>149267634
to what fucking benefit?
he's just complaining for the sake of it
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>>149267657
The american releases have less shit and they seem to not be consistent in other things like size and paper quality, that's his complaint.
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Why dosen't DC or Marvel get into this side of comics? I mean translating and publishing, not making their own.
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>>149267657
Not that guy but the dustcovers on manga can be really nice and you also get a secret cover underneath it and the flaps that are tucked into the sides of the book often have more illustrations. The dustcovers for my Dorohedoro tanks have a texture on them that matches the collages behind the main illustrations, it looks super neat in person.
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>>149268017
Marvel used to have the Epic imprint. They published Akira among other things. Not sure about DC beyond the old Batman manga.
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>>149268071
Will Chota ever win the Enbowl?
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>>149267657
>>149268071
And my Kekkai Sensen tanks always have those illustrations in the inside flaps, the english volume cuts off right at the fold and the cover underneath the dustcovers doesn't get replicated at all so you're basically missing some of the product. It's not a deal breaker or anything and it doesn't ruin the book itself, but it's just some nice little touches that I wish people who only read the translated books could have too.
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>>149261102
Couple of things
>Not much lead up to Japan, so they want to drag it out, allowing more Japan volumes to come out
>The sales are shit, so they are trying to figure if the license is a bust and if there's a way to fix the problem
>You don't want to flood the market, not everything sells out immediately plus it helps to see how well your shit is selling long term

Dropping books midway is entirely due to poor sales, it makes no sense to finish something if you don't make enough profit, let alone your money back. It's a business after all. The reason they don't relinquish licenses is because that's just stupid. You paid money for it, why give it back before you have to. Maybe six months in suddenly Hollywood announces it's making a movie, so there might be money on it after all. And announcing you've dropped something is bad PR because it makes your customers wonder if you will finish anything.

Still pisses me off Lupin Most Wanted never got fully translated or that Drops of God failed entirely to find an audience, but what can you do besides learn moon? That's life
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>>149229637
>who valued purity over readership.
What kind of autist can't read just because they have to hold the book backwards?
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>>149193495
>Hardcover
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>>149268219
I can only hope.
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>>149268923
Reading manga in English is utterly counter-intuitive, you're reading left to right in a right to left system. Flipping was the correct way to go.
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>>149261650
I think that was only for Shonen Jump/Shojo Beat when it was in print for the normies who randomly picked it up at the bookstore.
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>>149268017
DC had CMX but they axed it after several years. Still mad that some of my shojo favorites never got saved/reprinted under another company (or at least had a digital version). But desu their quality was bad but got some good series published in English while it lasted...
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>>149261102
Japanese side usually act like retard, foreign publishers need to send them even covers which they will first check and approve

No need to add fuckers can make you wait few months or like picture related, year and a half since last volume despite publisher effort
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>>149269401
It takes all of maybe an hour to get used to and flipping actually changes the art and composition. You might think it's fine because it's just the same in reverse but specific placement and direction can have it's own meaning, see how Lawrence of Arabia intentionally framed nearly all movement from left to right. Then there's also issues like kimono's being folded in the death style and kanji in the BG (and sometimes English or other languages depending on the setting) being reversed, you could edit it to be the right way but then you really are fucking with the composition depending on how the original was displayed. I'd much sooner have them make weird localization changes like calling onigiri donuts than fuck with the art like that.
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>>149269943
It's not a case of "getting used to", it's a case of being utterly counter-intuitive and destroying the natural eye progression.
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Was the English edition of MW flipped or did Tezuka draw it right-to-left?
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>>149269991
Being counter-intuitive isn't much of an issue when you adapt to it. I see it as the far lesser of the two evils.
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>>149269401
Yeah right. Fuck me for not learning the language just to read some manga
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>>149269991
What if the words were typed
T L
H I
I K
S E

to preserve jp lettering flow.
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>>149270090
I don't think it's that big of a deal. I'd read the bubble and move on.
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I've been thinking about starting my own publishing company in a year or two when I have the money. Any idea how much US companies pay for the license?
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>>149199527
This will never not be funny
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>>149263274
Not only that, they also have a Youtube channel where they discuss the details of making a manga, but they barely get over a couple of thousand views on each video (half of them are below a thousand views even).
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEnqdJTx9rYBAO0s6Croabw/videos

I don't understand why they insists on a monthly updating schedule on their website. It's not like they have to worry about the number of pages they have to print per issue or the number of copies they need to sell. The whole point of uploading your content online is to get more people to visit your website more frequently. Updating only once a month only makes it easier for people to forget. At the very least, they could just spread out their releases throughout the month (e.g. update Ikusa no Ko one week, the Arte the next week, ect.). And for a title that is several years old, such as Angel Heart (which ran weekly by the way), uploading multiple chapters a month is better than a weekly schedule.

I admire Coamix's persistence at translating their manga titles themselves, but at this rate they're only showing how inept they are at marketing. At the very least, they're better off just giving FotNS and City Hunter to Viz if they want to see fully translated English editions of those titles while there's still a market for it.
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Why are manga as expensive as the price for a regular book unlike Japan where you can buy them for the same price as an average American comic single issue, is it purely because the cost of production and translation?
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>>149269871
Censoring Tenjho Tenge didn't help them, either.
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How are the Ah My Goddess omnibus releases by Dark Horse, along the lines of Planetes or more like the big fat editions like they've done with Trigun or Astro Boy? I'm honestly surprised a classic and well known manga like Astro Boy didn't receive a better reprint.
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>>149273003
They need to pay nips for licence and materials they provide.
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>>149273003
Also the size of the market. Manga and comics in general are a relatively small niche in the west, whereas it's completely normal for everyone to read manga in Japan.
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>>149273003
Manga market in US is smaller. Plus you have to include distribution which is more because the US is much larger than Japan.
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has anyone ever tried telling them to get their shit together?
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