What is the best time loop story?

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>this thread again
Anon turn off your PC and go outside pls.

>>149137170
Index.

hakomari or beautiful dreamer

>>149137170
Stop making this fucking thread.

Steins Gate

>>149140364
No.

>>149137170
>all that non-anime media
>all that shit anime
Primer, if we're talking multimedia

Blazblue

>>149140364
this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDMd6_Y9Q8w

>>149137170
Tatami Galaxy, Groundhog Day and Majora.

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> Time loops
You fuckers, don't you know that these kinds of things lack consequences? No tension? No sense of responsibility yet you people eat these kinds of things up. Terrible. Just terrible.

Re:Zero hands down

>>149137170
Maria hands down

>>149141375
>No sense of responsibility
Hey, the fact that Phil tried to save the homeless old man made me realize the true potential of the time loop story: all the perspectives you could ever glimpse within your reach.

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Fate/Extra CCC

It's true that I killed my Mentor... and yet, I am not his murderer.

>>149141505
My legs are OK

>>149141449
No sense of consequences. Moreover, I kept scratching my head over as to how the loops came to be. Like this:
> Hey, I wonder why I got my loops?
> Maybe it was just from God?
> Yeah, let's go with that! Even though I never interacted with him and everything that just occurred was a complete plot convenience.

>>149141544
>>149141375
>ignoring primer
I fucking hate you people. Why put 3D shit in the OP if you're not going to give lip service to the better time travel media in 3D. Mind boggling.

>>149141662
No thank you. I will not bother with a bunch of utter schlock explanation of it is never explored or delved into within the work at hand. You are merely making things up as you go along which leads to overthinking.

>>149141406
For idiots like yourself, sure.

>>149141765
>I am LITERALLY too retarded to understand
>using the term schlock unironically
Neck yourself

>>149141662
We ignore Primer because it's got no soul.

>>149141544
>inevitable repeated failure is not a consequence
>eternal torture of your repeated failure is not a consequence
>Hell is not a consequence

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>>149141662

>>149141798
You fucking idiots don't even bother to explain why and just go straight towards ad hominems. That is a surefire way to make yourself look even more wrong. Next time, you idiots should ask why or at least make an actual argument through an actual reply to that anon.

>>149137170
>still posting this thread
>still hasn't accepted Ever17 as his lord and saviour

>>149141840
And I just bet you can't tell me why it 'lacks soul' or even give solid examples of things that do

>>149141544
Groundhog Day is in essence a fairy tale: just enough detail to deliver a moral, nothing extraneous.

Delving into the cause would have only hurt the self-contained 2-hour experience. It's one of the reasons I'm trying to write a time loop story of my own, with the supernatural source made relevant.

>>149137170
Hakomari obviously

>>149141375
Most stories don't actually rely on "the hero could feel" tension to drive them along. I don't go into a Bond film wondering whether or not he's going to stop the villian; I know he is. I'm there to see how he does it and oggle gorgeous women.

>>149141865
It's been explained numerous times, morons like yourself are always too stupid to understand.

If you think Re:Zero is the best story to use loops; a story with a main character that adapts to a bizarre situation without questioning anything, and is surrounded by cute girls to appease the reader/viewer (IE-morons like yourself), then there's no other way to interpret it: you are indeed a blithering idiot.

>>149141838
I'm sorry I hurt your feelings with things that were never there or really explained. Are you going to say, "oh, it was always hinted!" You just have to fill in the blanks that were never explored in the slightest and there won't be a sequel to explain fully? There's a limit to the kind of bullshit you are pulling.
>>149141840
That's not a true consequence. No kind of mental bullshit is accounted for as a true consequence of time-loops. Nope.

>>149141977
Re:zero isn't the best there. It certainly doesn't display the virtue of time travel as a narrative mechanic to its highest potential. It is still pretty good as a product though. Not him, obviously.

>>149141991
This guy is a facetious shit poster. Look at his attitude. He can't even watch a simple film without losing track of the story and to make matters worse he thinks he's an expert of narrative consequence.

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>>149142050
>samefagging in the third person
The sheer desperation.

>>149137170
MabuRavu.

>>149142072
>doesn't even know what third person is
You're the complete package

>>149141886
Yeah I can, but you can't stand criticism of your beloved hipster indie film that lets you stand above the plebs, so I'll let you live in a bubble. Here's a hint: do any of the characters in Primer grow or change at all? How about Groundhog Day?

>>149142096
pls don't leave this thread

>>149137170
TRC

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I think Hakomaria had the most bone-chilling portrayal of a character that's been captive by time loops.

For all the time Touma spent being tormented, he wasn't affected by it in a believable way. I suppose this is the difference between a talented author and an author who isn't so talented.

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>>149142131
>any LN author ever
>talented

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I'm really glad that Qualia the Purple is on that list. It's personally my favorite

>>149141977
> Questioning anything
Is this about Satella? As to why he was summoned, or something along the lines of Elsa?
1. Subaru does actually wonder as to why he was summoned or why is Satella is doing so on. Yes, he is curious but the situation does not exactly allow him to do so (I bothered to read ahead). The knowledge of Satella is only rudimentary as of so far was shown. Not even Beatrice would say anything. It would be redundant to ask for anything that does not exist beyond what is in front of him nor is it actually possible without Satella directly talking to him (it will be very rare to do so and he'd prefer not to).
2. Elsa? Subaru prefers to forget about painful things when they are over. Moreover, he doesn't exactly want to delve further into something that will end up causing more pain from things like her.
Also, don't you suddenly assume that I am what you called. You're talking to a different anon here. Then again, using an ad hominem against me here is stupid when you assumed that I'm the other anon.

>>149142102
>uses a vacuous one word criticism to justify seemingly misplaced hate for a great movie
>implying I'm in a bubble

Girl who leapt through time > Steins;Gate > Madoka


Hosoda can be really hit or miss though. Girl who leapt through time and wolf children ame & yuki are two of my favourite movies, but I hated summer wars

>>149142017
> Virtue of time travel to the highest potential
By what potential do you speak of? Details, be specific. I want a good discussion here.

>>149142102
At first I kneejerk'd Phil, only to realize I was subjected to quite a number of implied "timeskips".

For the Groundhog Day side, you've proven your point. Again, 2 hours, leaning more towards creative usage of the loop rather than the underlying reason.

>>149142212
The lengths you dumbshits go to justify reading your shitty waifubait. Never ceases to amaze me.

His reaction to being transported was not believable and it's basically a harem with all the shoehorned waifubait. Re:Zero isn't even close to being the best time loop story, no matter how much you try to regurgitate that notion like the retard you are.

>>149142284
No thanks. This thread has clearly devolved into shitposting. Try again later with a less 'petty-bitching' attracting image

>>149142268
How the fuck can you like the Girl who leaped through time? The first 2/3 are great and then it hits a brick wall after the time rock randomly runs out of juice and it goes to shit.

>>149142284
I want to enter this discussion, too. Here's one of my guesses about what that anon will say:

If the MC enters the role of everyone's pal, I shouldn't have to infer it from unseen loops.

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Did anyone here watch Shadow Play?

>>149142296
I never said anything about it being the best time loop story. In fact, I never gave a damn opinion of the series. I was only this anon here >>149141865 and >>149142212
What the fuck? Why are you being vague? Stop being vague and give me specifics here with the reason, not use a damn ad hominem.

>>149142355
Watching it now, gimme a bit.

>>149142218
I didn't say I hated it. It's a fine movie, excellent really for what they had available. It's just not some sort of classic last word on time travel stories.

>>149142292
There's no need to give a reason anyway. The rules are established early on, Phil gives us some potential reasons to chew on, but it's obvious that whatever it was meant to make him a good man.

Compare that with Steins Gate or Madoka, and yes I watch patrician anime too, where understanding the method of time looping is essential to the plot. It's not time constraints as much as it is story structure.

>>149142355
I didn't like it.

>>149142091
I loved muv-luv but I feel like the loop doesn't really matter.

>>149142370
Then I suggest you post your own opinions, retard, rather than defend people like >>149141406

Then again, you're probably that very dumbshit, but trying to worm your way out.

>>149142168
Not in prose, obviously, but constructing fine plots is intuitive for some people.

Not all or most LN authors though.
>trying to read Oda Nobuna LNs
>even looking past the horrible translation the story is just isekai trash
Whoever adapted it to a screenplay is a saint.

Majora's mask.

>>149142417
Anon, you're obviously having a bad day, but getting worked up over other peoples' opinions isn't going to help.

>>149142390
I would have felt a lot better if God was actually present and visble in the story if the time loops went that way because of God's choice that would be clearly present (although, why Bill Murray of all people being chosen would serve as plot convenience). Again details would have still been better than just nothing.

>>149142448
I'm calling you out for being the idiot you are. Don't like it? Try a website called reddit.

>>149142417
I'm posting my damn opinion of your bullshit at this point. Stop being an ass. If you want to criticize something, at least try to not be lazy and explain. But seeing how you just go straight for ad hominems, I see you are incapable of that.

>>149142449
I really don't think so. Miracles are often mysterious, often expressed in ways that seem mundane. Can you imagine a corny white-bearded God showing up to give a monologue in the opening credits? Morgan Freeman winking at us at the end? We see the entire story through Bill Murray's eyes, and we have to figure it out along with him. There's a unity there that an explanation would only disturb.

>>149142480
Who the fuck are you talking to? I'm right here and you're talking to a different anon that came to the discussion. I just made my reply right here and you're sperging the fuck out >>149142494.

>>149142494
I have a suspicion there is just one abnormally belligerent anon here. If we ignore him he'll go away.

>>149142532
deescalate

>>149142538
There are at least three. By the way you're talking you're the second.

>>149142494
Try a website called reddit, it's where softcock Re:Zero babies like you belong.

>>149142532
I think you're the only one sperging out here.

>>149137170
The X-files episode "Monday" by far.

>>149142538
Anon, there are only two of us (maybe three if that other guy that replied right here out of nowhere >>149142448) unless you're a different anon here.

>>149142564
There are plenty of belligerent anons here right now but I think it's just the one that's angry no one talked about Primer that's the core of it.

>>149142586
There are 30 IPs in the thread. You can't figure out every samefag. That's a good thing, if you realize you're ruining the thread you can just stop and go on, allowing the other anons and their garbage opinions to run out of steam without giving them any validation. (You)s keep them going.

>>149142390
>it's obvious
To us, sure.
To Phil? Imagine if he didn't have to help just the town of Punxsutawney, but all 6 billion people as possible within the 24-hour loop, to be considered an undeniably "good person".

May as well hand him temporary omnipotence after the fact if you're gonna make him bleed his heart for any and everyone.

>>149142449
You make a good point. If Phil ISN'T UNIQUE for this looping, that means some other schmuck in the wide world was available for contacting.

>>149142566
Are you fucking kidding me? I never said anything about my opinion of the series and you're resorting to more ad hominems? Why are acting so childish? Moreover, you're calling people childish out of nothing. Stop the bullshit.

>>149142404
Too miserable for you? Did you want a happy ending?

>>149142588
I stopped posting awhile back, friend. That's why I said you were the second. I counted myself first.

A few years back (slightly after Higurashi's S1 aired) there was a funny thread about time loop anime that started to repeat midway, since some Anons started to copy-paste posts.
That was entertaining and interesting. Whatever OP is trying to do here is not.

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>>149141544
It's Stein Gate's argument for why the movie is not a good time loop story. The problem is not what caused the loop, it's that Bill Murray didn't know how to end it. By not knowing the circumstances in which it was started, he didn't know how to end it. It happened to be to simply become a better person, but it could have been something absolutely trivial like clicking a button hidden under a tree.

There are two types of groundhog days. Those that are self imposed and those that are accidental.
For example Madoka and S;G
Why does Okabe go in the time loop? To save his childhood friend.
Why does Homura go in the time loop? To save her ''best'' friend.

And for accidental or done by an outside party at their own whim:
Why did Takeru get stuck in a time loop? Because his childhood friend wanted to free herself.
Why did Bill Murray get stuck in the time loop. Because God or whatever wanted him to change.
Why did Kyon get stuck in the time loop? Because Haruhi wanted to have more fun together with her friends.
Why did Watashi get stuck in the time loop? Because God wanted him to change.

Higurashi belongs to the first category but is more personal.
And why did Rika go in the time loop? Because she wanted to live and be happy.

This is why Rika is the best. She doesn't go in the time loop by accident or was forced into it. She choses it and sticks with it for her own sake because she has no alternative or choice. It's more personal. She's not doing it for the sake of her friends or to be slightly happier, but because she has no alternative and just wants to live.

Why can't Okabe decide to not give a shit about his childhood friend?
Why can't Homura simply stop giving a fuck about Madoka?
Rika only wants to be happy and live.

>>149142654
>Are you fucking kidding me?
Temper temper timmy, I think you better take your ritalin.

>>149142355
I watched every TZ'59 episode, so yeah.

Madoka, which is a masterpiece, followed by Re:Zero, also a masterpiece but ranked lower because it's not finished yet.

>>149142669
Shalom, brother.

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>>149142731

>>149142675
>It happened to be to simply become a better person, but it could have been something absolutely trivial like clicking a button hidden under a tree.
There could have been no way to end it. That's eventually what he decided. It wasn't a movie about finding out how to terminate the loop, it was about learning to live with it. We don't even know if that was the first time he had a perfect day. He could have just been living in the heaven he created for years.

The point was he only got out of it when he stopped caring about getting out of it.

>>149142731
>mfw I have legit criticism of Re:Zero that will get the rabid fanbase angry but I also have legit praise that will anger the haters
Why can't we all just get along.

>>149142681
> Attempting to belittle me
Anon, it's way past your bedtime. Also, you must be at least 18 years of age to post here. Again, stop being childish. Judging from how you keep attempting to insult other and sidetrack the point, you are obviously incapable of holding a conversation without having a tantrum and try and blame others for what you are actually doing. How hypocritical. Fine. Act that way.

>>149142812
Anon, at this point the thread of the argument is lost so much there's no longer anything to gain. Nobody's going to apologize.

>>149142788
Because both sides are idiots. And apparently, one is too childish to where they resort to insults to get a point (that's what they believe).

>>149137170
Qualia

>>149142812
Morons like yourself are always a laugh. Can't help yourself, your mental issues won't allow you to stop.

>>149143014
> Calling out for mental issues out of just pointing out how bad you sound
Ok, I'm done talking to an 10-year old who can't bother to hold up an actual conversation. Keep resorting to ad hominems at this point, you'll be a great laugh in the future, pal. I'm sorry that you're too mentally handicapped to understand this concept and believe that you are correct. Because honestly, you're childish and you can't handle the truth. Go back to your mother's womb you premature fetus.

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>>149142731
>Madoka
>Masterpiece
Keep drinking that Urobutcher Kool Aid bud.

>>149137170
Madoka is surely the time loop story with the best music-

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>>149143236
I'm not him, but jesus fuck, you guys are annoying.
Learn what the fucking terms you're using mean, dumbass, cause you're misatributing them.

Zero is a good show, but anyone who says it's the best is simply a casual newfag.

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>>149143281
No, that would be Beautiful Dreamer.

>>149140677
The only thing I don't get from Primer is why Aaron went back to the first day and drug himself thus closing the loop. It makes no sense unless he wanted to save the party, but that's a big stretch when he can do a closed loop to not have two or more hims in a timeline.

>>149143667
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wzEbAhPEzE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSUM6hL5MdM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pumk8u5lkEw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdcuFZi8qZ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Vj-iwbg7bg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD76vWIBHNQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDm8W2kVzvU

What an amazing movie this was. You will never see a comedy anime be this bold and ambitious ever again.

>forgetting killer queen bites the dust

>>149137170
Keit-Ai

Naruto - Infinite Tsukuyomi arc.

Obviously Mirai Nikki

>>149137170
Saike mata shite mo

>>149144211
Hello retard.

>>149141878
I can't figure out why Ever17 is on the list. Am I misremembering something? The only person with any knowledge of the different routes was the reader, right? If you're going to list it as a time loop story, you'd have to count literally every VN with multiple routes.

>>149137170
Triangle

Torn between muv luv and tatami

Ever17.

>>149142131
>he wasn't affected by it in a believable way
More like you couldn't understand why. Any author could write Touma and it would turn out the same way. Because that's his character. Writing something else would not make him Touma. Bottom line is, you don't understand his character at all.

Bokudake is missing. Anyway I would say Ever17 thanks to the last route but I honestly like everything in OP's pic save for two.

As a Time-loop focused story? All You Need is Kill, though I still prefer Steins;Gate, it is more focused to the chaos theory than time leaping itself

>>149137170
>using Rebellion poster rather than the series
Stupid dumb

>>149140677
Primer is fucking terrible, no wonder you're posting in an anime board

Majora's Mask.

Qualia the Purple isn't a time loop story, or I'm not up to date on it. The MC just goes on with their life if they fail.