Is Yamada the greatest female director of our time?

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>>149100287
but who is Yamada?

>>149100287
>female
Her being female doesn't have anything to do with her job. But she is one of the top 4 currently working anime directors.

>>149100321
I never said it had, retard. Why did you take offence?

>>149100311
Gary Johnson, pls.

>>149100337
by specifying it, you imply that

>>149100337
Because saying the word female will trigger polacks and GGers to shitpost the thread.

>who is Ishizuka?
>who is Matsumoto?

Come on, OP.

Yes, but given the current competition that's not exactly saying much is it

>>149100386
If that's how you took it... well I am telling you now that I didn't imply anything.

>>149100287
Her absence from Hibikek S2 is glaring.

>>149100287
Judging the greatest female director while Choi is still only doing episode direction is pointless.

>>149100431
They are bellow Yamada to be honest.

Sayo Yamamoto is better

>>149100471
What does Yamada bring to the table that's specific to her work? She strikes me as an incredibly generic director.

>>149100431
>>who is Ishizuka?
A could-have-been who inexplicably works only on mediocre-to-shit projects.

>Turns koe no katachi into Kyoani's best selling movie
>Hibike turns into shit without her

>>149100528
>turns into
>implying

>>149100513
Her direction on those projects is still top notch, she's just doing whatever Madhouse throws at her.

>>149100492
Honestly she's just different. Her work reminds me of a Live director like Rodrigo Prieto than any anime director bar Takahata. See the Tamako losing her lenses scene in TLS and tell me that's generic.

>>149100528
She back to direct Ep 9 so at least the third book won't be as shit.

>>149100528
Taichi Ogawa's episode was great, and Kigami has an episode next.

>>149100492
Really? Her works are anything but generic. Technically, framing and body language. She's one of the few directors that don't direct like anime directors or rely on the tropes we're all used to like info-dumping and the like. Worldbuilding is another thing, she makes sure the viewer learns something new about the world and characters in each episode, this can be seen mostly in Tamako Market, nothing feels staged or scripted.

Not saying these things are unique to her, but she's definitely above 80% of her colleagues. If anything she's just not as diverse, she likes directing seemingly simple character driven stories, but when you compare her works with other similar character driven SoLs her stuff is obviously much more polished.

>>149100567
It's honestly not as solid as S1. Many people felt unhappy about the whole buildup and climax of the Mizore/Nozomi arc.

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>>149100287
Can I marry her

>>149100860

She already is married.

>>149100860
She's probably used by the old men on KyoAni's board of directors. How else do you think she got to direct a series in her mid-20s?

>>149100366
What's a... Leppo?

That's not Moriwaki Makoto.

Why did Satoshi Kon have to die

When are we getting Koe no Katachi subs?

>>149100981
next year. The BD will have English subs too.

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>>149100902

>>149100883
source?

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Leave Yamada to me.

>>149100287
Nah, thats Rie Matsumoto

Yamada is overrated and only mentioned since there are not many good female directors to begin with. Every single male director in KyoAni is better, and Fujino seem to become a better female director than Yamada.

>>149101242
If Yamamoto is so great, why is Yuri's production collapsing already?

>>149101246
She looks like a tumblr feminist

>>149101246
When are we getting a new Matsumoto project? When is Trigger going to headhunt her?

>>149101246
Matsumoto is no longer good ever since leaving Toei.

>>149100471
Yamada is playing easy mode being on Kyoani.

>>149101273
Mappa is a really shitty studio, but who cares, Yuri will probably sell over 30k and the merch among the fujos will be huge. They don't really care about the visual quality as long as there's gay shit.

>>149101292
She's done one show since then, and it was good you fag.

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>>149101273
At least it waited until episode 2 for QUALITY.

>>149101308
Considering skatters all over the world started watching Yuri on Ice I would be very embarrassed if I was Mappa.

>>149101338
At least Hibike's production recovered after episode 1 which clearly was made parallel with Koe no Katachi. Yuri's production on the other hand is clearly heading for imminent collapse.

>>149101308
The show will be banned in russia as propaganda of LGBT to minors.

>>149101367
>At least Hibike's production recovered after episode 1
What?

It's been a downward slope this whole season.

>>149100447
>...

You do not belong here.

>>149101273
Do you actually believe that or are you just parroting rumors around? You don't even watch Yuri on Ice do you?

>>149101376
Continue baiting and maybe someone will believe you.

>>149101410
I believe him.

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>>149101376
Episode 2 was on par with S1, episode 3 was mostly pans and flapping mouths but not QUALITY per se, episode 4 was also on par with S1, or close to it.

>>149101376
The following episodes do not have the obvious composite mistakes of the first nor do they have as many key animators. Hibike's latest episode looked the best in the show so far and it looked really polished.

Compare with Yuri and you'll see more animation directors and studios credited for second key animation with each passing episode.

>>149101437
Wow a whole lot of nothing going on in every one of these scenes once again. Not sure why you don't just wait until some actually interesting or meaningful scenes happen. But I guess knowing Hibike they never will.

>>149101437
I don't know if you made that, but you should replace the bottom right. That cg looks really bad.

>>149100459
Choi can go fuck herself.
Yuasa was better with Mihara.

>>149100688
>Kigami has an episode next
>co-storyborded by Ishihara
>2 animation directors are newbies
>supposedly the kansai tournament episode
It's going to be a disaster.

>>149101404
I'm watching it and it's really enjoyable, but it's clearly a rough production. The skating scenes are getting less polished and there are differences in drawings between the Crunchyroll and TV broadcasts due to the former getting the video sent earlier. The TV version of the latest episode had more corrections.

>>149101518
I mean, since sequels are guaranteed to make less anyway, why not throw rookies at it.

>>149101518
Even if the 2 new ADs fall short, Kigami's good enough to correct their work.

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>Kyoani getting BTFO by based Pierrot on a weekly basis once again

How can KyoAni compete?

>>149101486
What went wrong with Choi and Mihara?

>>149101548
TYBSP

no matsumoto rei is
no memes please

>>149101404
Rumors? The production has been confirmed as a failure, people were shitting on Crunchyroll for "censoring" the latest episode but they ended up explaining that since production is so rough, Mappa is falling behind schedule and providing unfinished versions to stations that need the show earlier. They're literally working on the clock, probably finishing up next episode as we speak.

>>149101559
Choi wanted Flash-tween animation.
ScienceSaru literally ruined Shinchan movie 2015 with their Flash shit.

>>149101548
It's hard to compete with Osamu Kobayashi's genius.

>>149101592
>Mappa is falling behind schedule and providing unfinished versions to stations that need the show earlier. They're literally working on the clock, probably finishing up next episode as we speak.
Gonna need sauce on that

>>149101588
She's been mentioned a couple of times, but I still prefer Ishizuka.

>>149101608
Girlish Number

>>149101548
>Watching filler episodes

>>149101522
Animation/art quality has nothing to do with directing ability. It's due to budget and scheduling issues, which aren't her fault anyway.

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>>149101653
the 2 episodes of naruto filler we've gotten is unironically 10x better than the entirety of hibike

>>149101588
When she's doing film I'll watch her works. No one else is doing film so I guess Yamada wins.

>using Shinkai's tweet to shill for Koe no Katachi
Heh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1clXIw0U0oQ

>>149101694
She did a precure movie a while back. I watched it just to say I'd seen everything she's directed.

>>149101608
on the changes?
http://imgur.com/a/oyLSD

>>149101708
I actually watched that and it wasn't half bad. Nothing as ambitious as KnK or TLS though.

>>149101736
It was very early work for her, and something that was likely produced mostly by committee. I expect any film she did today would have more of the weight she imbues to action.

>>149101723
No noticeable drop in quality.

>>149101548
>bottom left
she gay?

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>>149100528
>>149100455
Fucking retards on this board.

>>149101242
Didn't know it was directed by her, no wonder why the show has this cheap novela/dorama feel.

>>149101843
Yamada is unit director for Hibike S2, so barely involved in comparison to S1. Meaning she is only on "secondary tasks main director doesnt have tim e to do" errand girl.

And its seen with S2 being noticable better than S1 due to Yamada interference and Ishihare having proper reign.

>>149101815
The drop in Yuri is more subtle than your average QUALITY show. After episode 1, scenes have been more static, as they're not drawing scenes from different shots and perspectives, they're re-using animation, mouths don't match with the voice, and newer performances look sloppier.

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>>149101953
>Comparing a whole season to 4 episodes of a sequel.

>>149101953
It's literally right there in the image, she's doing the exact same thing she already did in season 1. Why bother lying when it's right there?

>>149102243
>being this retarded

>>149100287
I will never unsee the beard in the thumbnail

>>149102364
The fact that you can't even read makes you the retard.

>>149102508
The only fact here is that you're a fag, how about that little faggot boy?

>>149101473
Not him, but I actually rather liked that scene. The CG was really surprisingly seamless.

>>149101723
Wait, why is this happening?

>>149100455
Yeah, I noticed it got better.

>>149101302
>Their ace
>Easy mode
It's more like everyone around her is on easy mode when she's in charge. You'll never see something like Phantom world's cat episode with her.

>>149102866
Don't try to twist my point, faggot. You know what i'm talking about.

>>149102866
This

They should just make her only do movies

At least the three other main directors allow creativity

>>149100883
source?

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She's the best director period.

>>149100455
Its definitely noticeable. You can see her shots every now and then but as a whole the characters feel a lot less lifelike. Kumiko in specific feels much more monotone compared to S1.

>>149103092
I noticed that the characters feel more realistic. Ribbons and Asuka in particular. Also Reina isn't an expressionless doll anymore.

>>149103092
>She's the best director period.
I'd still argue that Hosoda is still better but she's up there.

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Rie Matsumoto X Trigger collab is my dream

>>149103135
that would've happened with or without her, that's how the story and development of those characters was set out to be.

>>149103092
>You can see her shots every now and then
ITT: retards not knowing what they talk about

Directors merely approve/demand correction of the storyboards - Ishihara at least did storyboard for ep1 of S2, Yamada did fuck nothing at all.

Most impact for episode have episode directors/storyboarders and animation directors for episode. Anime Directors just make decisions and look that production goes on on schedule - their impact is big, but not in a sense /a/nons believe drooling over episodes "omg Yamada is so great" when she barely touched it and just decided "there should be more yuri bait, do it".

>>149103135
The expressions in s2 are better. Like stretchy kumiko.

>>149102508
She is Series Unit Director for S2. Kill yourself.

>>149103337
Prove it.

>>149100287
The actual best Kyoani grill

>>149103370
Thats Yamakan.

>>149103317
>Anime Directors just make decisions and look that production goes on on schedule - their impact is big, but not in a sense /a/nons believe drooling over episodes "omg Yamada is so great" when she barely touched it and just decided "there should be more yuri bait, do it".

If you ever read staff interviews you'd know that's not their only job.

>>149100321
>your physical identity has nothing to do with how people treat you and perceive your character
>how people treat you and perceive your character doesnt have direct correlation to your success
>getting triggered at the possible implication of GRRL POWAH

Please, fix yourself.

>>149103409
Its not the only job for sure, but people praise them for wrong things - attributing others work. Ishihara and Yamada both are responsible for series look, mood, pace and appeal - but people praise Yamada, Takemoto etc. often as if they personally wrote the script, made storyboards, animated and edited it.

>>149103474
Because they also often make storyboards for some episodes in their own series. And when you read their interviews you see how they're also involved in the little details. Yamada specially is very picky on how she depicts her characters.

>>149103379
>Yamakan
>girl
Dammit anon, I'm having impure thoughts right now

>>149103445
Where in that post implied that he got triggered?

>>149100287
Matsumoto and Yamamoto are the firsts that come to mind.

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>>149103337
>>149102508
She has the same role in S2 as she did in S1.

Essentially her job, as they put it, is to overlook the "feel" of the show.

>Oguro: Fundamentally, how did you divide the work?
>Ishihara: Yamada would look at the various detailed points.
>Yamada: As I looked over the entire series progression as a whole, I’d work on the subtleties of each character’s emotions and made sure that progressed logically so to speak. While I was working on that, I gradually understood the role of series director.

Unlimited budget works

>>149103828
Not who you're replying to, but she obviously doesn't have as much of a presence in the second season as she did in the first. At least so far. For starters, she hasn't directed an episode yet, and won't until well into the season.

Naturally her title won't change, but her involvement easily can't.

>>149104139
>easily can*

Fuck me.

>>149103828
>>149104139
And she fucking can’t because she’s been busy with Koe. No episodes by her and no storyboard corrections either. Simple.

>>149103092
>Ricoh GR
Best durectror cobnfurmed.

Sincerely,

/p/

Yamada is the only female director in anime who hasn't gotten the shit end of the stick.

Fucking random director, why is she good already?

Can't really think of many other good female directors. Fujita? Choi? Certainly no one with more directorial experience under their belt; I know people somehow like Yamamoto or Matsumoto or Ishizuka or whoever but really there's nothing there that could convince me they're any good.
She's one of the better directors these days, period. While K-On! is the only thing I could call great, I really admire TLS and her work in general is exciting. Hope she stays with film.

>>149104308
She's the only anime director that I know of in the new generation that had her debut sell over 40k. With those kind of sales she kinda can do whatever she wants in Kyoto. And the IP wasn't even that popular with 35k manga sales per volume before the anime aired.

>>149104373
What is Choi's full name so I can look them up?

>>149104408
Matsumoto’s debuts sold pretty well too, she probably can do whatever she wants too. So get ready for Kekkai Sensen season 2 to 10

>>149104530
Choi Enyoung

>>149104530
Eunyoung Choi, did the plant episode of Space Dandy and worked with Yuasa on his shows. Currently at Science Saru and highly likely that she's directing a movie there.

>>149104549
Thank you.

>>149104373
Choi is an animator, though.

>>149104577
>>149104555

>>149104373
Fujita and Choi are pretty much the best upcoming directors who won't get completely shat on since they're in good hands.
Yamamoto's doomed to have shit productions, Matsuomoto would be better off as an episode director, Ishizuka is Madhouse's most talented director but gets shit projects

>>149104697
NGNL is alright and actually a somewhat big project now.

>>149104818
It's a side story of a 10k selling series. It's not a big deal in anyway. Chances are the movie is going to open in 60 screens tops.

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>>149104697
KyoAni's probably the best place to start if you're female.

>>149102866
Phantom World's cat episode was boring and pointless. maybe if she directed it, we would get an episode that actually made the characters likeable instead

>>149104840
Yes, and 10k is big. Can’t everyone be KyoAni, Miyazaki or a Mizushima. (And he does plenty of sub 10k stuff too)

>>149102866
If you're gonna play the "she could never have come up with X" card, probably choose something better than Phantom World.

>>149104871
Fujita Haruka debut when

>>149104962
Ogawa deserves one first.

>>149102866
that's because yamada only does boring dramas and has the subtlety of a freight train

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>>149104993
True.

>>149104993
I wonder if he will debut with an original or adaptation.

>>149101308
>Yuri will probably sell over 30k
Not with all the other fujoshit this season.

>>149100287
Yes, no one even comes close.

>>149101284
Trigger has an original anime coming by a secret super-awesome director, it may be Rie Matsumoto. Can't think of anyone else other than perhaps Ikuhara or maybe one of the Khara dudes.

Can't wait for based Hiroko Utsumi's next project.

If the "secret awesome director" from Trigger's upcoming original is Rie Matsumoto it could be pretty cool.

Thread full of disgusting feminist Hillary shills.

Vote Takemoto, Make KyoAni Great Again.

>>149106366
What evidence is there to support Matsumoto or Ikuhara? That seems super far fetched.

>>149106366
Idiots. Its Yamakan, obviously.

Trigger is part of Ultra Super Pictures, which Yamakan is co-founder and first director of - helping Trigger gain ground and establish.

Now its time for them to repay the debt.

>>149106460
I think I want this more than anything.

>>149106475
Announcement to appear here. He hints with his rants for a while for something.

lineblog.me/yamamotoyutaka/

>>149106460
>the guy who left Kyoani joins the studio that wants to be like Kyoani

Really makes ya think

>>149106460
Fun fact: Black Rock Shooter was actually animted by Trigger also Ordet is credited.

>>149106500
I can't think of a more anime-saving combination.

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>>149106384
Utsumi was fun

Takemoto killed Utsumi. RIP.

>>149106683
Good riddance. Takehomo a best.

Will Maidragon be Takemoto's Nichijou?

>>149106784
It will be his Lucky Star Mk2.
Nichijou worked well because Ishihara had a fun bone and the Hattas told him to go all in on it. I can't see Maidragon getting the same kind of craftsmanship after the studio working all year long.

>>149106784
Maybe if he were as talented as Ishihara and Ishidate.

>>149106824
>Ishidate
>talented
He's a good episode director. Not even the best at KyoAni. Ishihara is still the best there and then there's Yamada, Fujita and Yamamura.

After the disaster that was Kyousougiga TV, who wants to see Matsumoto working with a Trigger schedule and budget?

>>149106889
But Ishihara fucking sucks

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>>149106824
Since Takefag is shit now hopefully Ishidate will be a worthy replacement

Since Yamada is the best, how would you rank the other female directors behind her?

>>149107003
pretty sceptical about this one

>>149107046
I wouldn't really rank anyone else. None of them have had solid projects as consistently as Yamada.

I wouldn’t even say Yamada is the best. She’s just the one who had to step out of her comfort zone the least and been given projects that played the most to her strengths.

I want to marry every female director!

is there a list of female directors?

>>149107199
Hiroko Tokita (one of the first female TV anime directors, debuted with Touch in 1985)
Naoko Yamada (KyoAni animator, K-ON/Tamako/Koe no Katachi's director)
Haruka Fujita (KyoAni animator, young director who has been attracting lots of attention since Euphonium #8, could eventually become a series director)
Noriko Takao (KyoAni School, left to become freelance and direct Saint Young Men and Idolmaster stuff)
Hiroko Utsumi (KyoAni School, Free's passionate director, recently became freelance to chase new personal projects)
Sayo Yamamoto (Michiko to Hatchin, The Woman Called Fujiko Mine)
Rie Matsumoto (Kyousougiga)
Eunyoung Choi (founder of Science Saru alongside Yuasa)
Atsuko Ishizuka (one of the best directors left at madhouse, very fond of postprocessing techniques)
kaori (also important Kinema Citrus staff, Yuyushiki's director)
Koromi Deai (colorful director known for Rolling Girls, also was in charge of Silver Spoon 2 and Natsume now)
Akemi Hayashi and Shouko Nakamura (the stylish and delicate ex-Gainax crowd, recently directed/boarded/designed Doukyuusei)

>>149107148
I guess the only one that even comes close is Matsumoto

Yamamoto is nearly 10 years older than them and she hasn't even been given a chance at directing a film yet

>>149107353
I don't understand how could Yamamoto attract the scheduling problems wherever she goes. Even Lupin had some dubious parts.

>>149103750
Who?

>>149107337
Also this lady someone mentioned
https://myanimelist.net/people/14581/Makoto_Moriwaki

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>>149107337
Mitsue Yamazaki, Ai Yoshimura, Mitsuko Kase, Youko Ikeda, Yumi Kamakura, Makoto Moriwaki (the best, period)

>>149107478
She’s too ambitious for her own good.

>>149106979
What was the problem with it?

>>149107527
>https://myanimelist.net/people/14581/Makoto_Moriwaki
>Milley Holmes
>best anything

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>>149108288
Your taste is shit

Fujita will surpass Yamada.

>>149108585
Isn't fujita a man?

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>>149108883
How many men named Haruka do you know?

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>>149108585
Fujita is a she and she's far too autistic for her own good. Good episode director but she dosen't have a style so to speak.

>>149100287
>Oh, did she direct Hyouka? Because that was the best directed anime from Kyoani
>Director: Takemoto, Yasuhiro
Welp. Yamada is good at moeshit, though.

>>149109115
Her work always seems like a development of Yamada's style. What do you mean she's too autistic? I don't actually know anything about her as a person.

>>149109115
how is she autistic?

Yamada is one of the best directors, not just among her female peers. It helps she's got great taste in film unlike other directors like Ishidate or Ei Aoki who like mainstream trash like Christopher Nolan and Zack Snyder flicks.

>>149109364
Nolan's not that bad, and he never once mentioned Snyder. Don't misquote people.

>>149109364
Ishidate likes Fincher and Takahata so he's top tier.
>zack snyder
nice try

>>149109490
Aoki is the one that likes Snyder.

>>149109364
What was Yamada's favorite movie of 2015? Imaishi's was Mad Max.

>>149109528
Haven't heard that before, but even so why'd you pick him to compare to Yamada?

>>149109556
That's a very Imaishi pick.

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Reminder that Ishidate promotes female abuse.

Vote for Yamada today.

>>149107785
Every thing was going great until the retcons started and then that was that epic infodump scene that basically killed all the magic the series ever had.

Yamada loves a certain style of photography. Does anyone know what it is?

Animes with female directors are the same shit that animes with male directors: heavy fanservice of school girls for sell dakimakura and novels.

Vaginas dont fix or make traditionally male-dominated career "better" or "greatest".

>>149110234
Oh, oh, I know, pick me! Pick me!

>>149107785
You forgot about the still image + infodump that lasted entire minutes?

>>149100287

Greatest director full stop.

>>149109556
>What was Yamada's favorite movie of 2015?
Kumiko The Treasure Hunter

>>149110258
>Animes

>>149110336
Mad Max RT: 99%
Kumiko RT: 87%
Good try Yamada, but Imaishi wins.

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>>149110493

>>149110493
They were both pretty good, actually.

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