Why was Light the stupidest protagonist ever?

His biggest mistake was killing that guy on the TV

>>149080561
he was too ambitious and made really stupid mistakes

He was retarded and impulsive

He didn't kill because he believed in Justice. He killed became he loved the power

>>149080561

This plus the fact that the retard didn't understood how to even use the note.

He could basically blackmail every world leader, every company board, every level of law enforcement, every level of the underworld to do whatever he wanted... he could have even killed every annoying celebrity, ended shitty tv show, he could have actually improved the world without ever being caught.

Damn retard...

>>149082603

Blackmailing people sounds like a way to die even faster than he did.

>>149080561
>Still has scrap of Death Note in his watch when he is caught by Nate
>pulls out in front of the police to write on it instead of writing the name behind his back
I'm still mad.

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>>149084237
>writing the name behind his back

Ok anon, that's not easy in english not to mention in moonspeak

>>149084237
It wasn't even a strategy at that point he just wanted Near dead

>>149080561
He didn't expect L's ingenuity. He probably thought hes on the side of the law by killing criminals

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>have a primary suspect
>let him on the investigation team

Is L the stupidest detective ever?

>>149080561

It is implied in the manga that humans that use the Death Note become cursed or crazy, that explains how his behavior becomes progressively insane and erratical

There was also an extra epiloge chapter about another Death Note user after Light that kills old and terminally ill people that gets crazy and ends killing himself that proves the theory

>>149080561
when youre a virgin teenager you do a lot of stupid shit on daily basis

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>>149080561
>Stupidest protagonist ever?
No.

>>149080561
>Why was Light the stupidest protagonist ever?

>kills the smartest detective in the world when he's just a school kid

Give credit when it's due

>>149084237
Look, that paper was tiny and there were multiple guys there, he would be shot

>>149084237

You know what the worst part about that is?
The fact that he didn't even needed to use it.

I mean, Mikami not writing his name on the note may be proof of something to Near but on a court the most that proves is that Light was an accomplice or, if played right, that he was coerced into helping Mikami which would be regarded as Kira.

The fucking dumb ass lost it because he was a fucking idiot who thought he was smart.

>>149080561
>>149080656

This. It's actually a big deal for the plot because if L hadn't made that one very astute move and Light hadn't made that one impetuous mistake, there'd realistically be no story. And it wasn't even that big of a mistake since it's pretty natural to assume that nobody has hijacked the TV to broadcast a message just to one particular location instead of the whole country like normal.

It's a pretty good move on the writer's part, because it kicks off the plot well, establishes L's character and puts Light at serious risk.

>>149082692

I'd agree. The safest way to use it to change the world would be for assassinating high-profile, high-power public figures; ideally in a way that doesn't make totally obvious what's happening, so you can avoid scaring people off of any leadership role. You'd have to have a pretty strong code of ethics yourself to not just reduce the world to chaos, though.

Assuming you want to do that. I bet most people would just use it for their own personal goals.

>>149084935
>using a huge plotshield and 2 gods of death

>>149084786
I figured that was more due to the power itself than anything on the death note's part. Power corrupts and all that. I don't know what the epilogue shit is.

Light started out earnestly wishing to better humanity, but slowly twisted into a complete monster as he bent his morals more and more, justifying killing anyone who threatened to stop him on moral grounds because it would stop him from making the world better in his eyes.

Though he didn't completely fail. I believe they mentioned the crime rate dropped massively as his killing spree continued. It was like if the boogeyman was real, but only targeted bad people, and his definition of 'bad people' became looser with each passing day.

>>149084935
He didn't kill that detective, he tricked someone else into doing it for him

>>149085026
>>149085026
>Seeing as manny HAPPENINGS as there can be in a lifetime and seeing the world change enormously isn't pursuing one's personal goals
Only for the plebs playing god isn't the ultimate fetish

>>149085026
Killing the guy on TV was an asspull I couldn't suspend my disbelief on but maybe that was so that I could suspend my disbelief for the rest of the series, as I would then naturally expect the rest of the anime to be just as ridiculous.

>>149085068
>maniupulating people is not smart

Keep acting like Misa wasn't a huge liability for him, she's the entire reason he was locked up in the first place.

>>149085087
He manipulated someone in to killing him without getting his own hands dirty and at the best time when he's free from proper suspicion, don't see how that doesn't deserve any credit.

>>149085295
>Killing the guy on TV was an asspull

Literally fucking how? It was totally in character for him to be provoked as he thinks he's the god of the verse and no one could touch him.

>>149085431
L becoming a dumbass and letting Misa go without people tailing her is a plotshield though

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>>149085481
What are you talking about? She was close with him up until Light made it so the rule of the note were changed and cleared any suspicion on both of them so he can't have anyone tail her anymore, infact the task force probably wouldn't have gone through with it anyways since they were 100% convinced at that point.

L was always more focused on Light anyways

>>149085892
Remember when L took initiatives like tailing Misa before Light made his plans and proving she was Kira using advanced biological evidences like pollen and shit? Or made other "best detective in the world" strawmen? That's the kind of carefulness you should expect from world's 1st detective.

Not "let ex-Kira go without anyone looking at what she does : after all, it's not like Kira is still here (oh shit he actually is since Higuchi was killed) or if we've already proven she WAS Kira and Kira gets transmitted easily"

The fact L doesn't have cameras in his chopper is dumb too. Just plotshield after plotshield.

>>149086011
>Remember when L took initiatives like tailing Misa before Light made his plans and proving she was Kira using advanced biological evidences like pollen and shit? Or made other "best detective in the world" strawmen? That's the kind of carefulness you should expect from world's 1st detective.

You are just bitching at this point talking nonsense. She didn't even get her memories till like halfway when L was busy with the Higuchi situation with light .

>Not "let ex-Kira go without anyone looking at what she does : after all, it's not like Kira is still here (oh shit he actually is since Higuchi was killed) or if we've already proven she WAS Kira and Kira gets transmitted easily"

He had NO reasons and rights to follow her after there was flat evidence saying Light and Misa couldn't be Kira, no one would have stalked her in the small task force like before as again they were convinced.

>The fact L doesn't have cameras in his chopper is dumb too.

Highly doubt there would be camera's facing towards light's seat and not in the other direction in a chopper and depends on the type, you're really just bitching at this point

>>149086502
>You are just bitching at this point talking nonsense. She didn't even get her memories till like halfway when L was busy with the Higuchi situation with light .
What nonsense? Misa was PROVEN to be a Kira. The situation was decisive enough for L to go full bondage on her and have Watari right behind her all the time to prevent her from killing herself by biting her tongue. Catching Higuchi doesn't change the fact Misa WAS Kira so why would L ever let Misa go and not have someone look after her? Because if it was the case, Misa would never have gotten the Death Note and Light's plan would have led to nothing, so it's a plotshield.

>b-but no one would have accepted to follow her
How about that criminal he pays to follow people? L has connections to mafia. Or even Watari?

There's literally no reason for world's 1st detective to let a proven culprit go away because she supposedly wasn't Kira for a time.

>>149080561
No, but you're clearly retarded.

>>149086011
>Former CIA agent uses alias
>Gives real name to some high school kid claiming to be detetctive
He even admits that straight up bullshit.

>>149087281
You mean, when he approached Light? It was a strategic move to prove that if he died, Light was the culprit

>>149080561
Did you even watch the show or just went to the final episode?
If you did watch then you know through what this dude went right? And what he pulled off? Only a mental person can say something as dumb as you OP.

>Giovanni copied the entire notebook
>in a single night
>he copied seven years of writing with at least a page being written almost every day
>down to the precise handwriting
>in a single night

Really, Near?

>>149086653
>Misa was PROVEN to be a Kira

No she wasn't, she was only a clear suspect that provided nothing in the interrogation and they had no real evidence to properly arrest her, then he had real leads to an actual death note user higuchi and misa had that shitty cop with her as her idol agent for time until Light used the note to clear suspicions, You are just making up shit. He had no basis to continue watching her and instead tried to get shit out of the shinigami.

>How about that criminal he pays to follow people? L has connections to mafia. Or even Watari?

Like i said, Misa was proving to be be useless and he tied a cop to be with her, keep spouting this "proven" culprit when she was never proven jack shit, just a suspect that they had to take in and got nothing out of her and then evidence came and cleared her.

>>149087281
Oh look another speed reader

>a literal officer at the station telling light if he was gonna help out with cases again and then mentions how he's the son of the chief of japan in front of the damn CIA chick

I don't see how him being a detective and then even knowing about L while also having the same assumptions about the situation which shows his detective thinking makes is SO hard to believe he's a young detective being raised by the chief of police.

>>149087930
>he did it twice

>>149087936
>No she wasn't, she was only a clear suspect
Bullshit. Reread the manga. They had 20 different pieces of evidence she sent the tapes and the sender of the tapes was the second Kira. That's why they could go bondage on her : there was no doubt on her case.

>Misa was proving to be be useless and he tied a cop to be with her
Before Higuchi. Not after. That's bullshit.

>>149087930
>>149087992
Near used Death Note to manipulate Mikami so the fake Death Note was probably not 'exactly' the same.

where do you think is hidden Naomi Misora dead body??

>>149084995
They were going to extrajudicially kill Light either way. This was heavily implied.
Watch the anime and then post again.

>>149088055
Beno's house

>>149089327
I know. I just hate that they set up this whole "Kira vs. L" thing, then pulled the rug out from under both sides and killed them all instead of Light taking over the world.

>>149087930
This was the real asspull of the series

>>149089408
L won though

>>149089455
L's predecessors won. It's a hollow (and very asspulled) victory.

>>149089408
>In November 2006 the director and the author of Death Note were shocked when multiple fans asked if Light was the good guy and if the author advocated for such a world.

Looks like we have our answer for why episode 26-onwards went full moralistic.

Reminder that Shinichi is smarter than L

>>149089499
It's better than a straight defeat / temporary asspulled victory like Light has gotten.

I thought the biggest bullshit was
>oh look, somebody died when we were watching him study
>he didn't have any media on
>that's a perfect way to make us think he's not the killer, and that happened too fast
>we need to spend more time and resources to watch this man that showed us that a killing happened while he was being monitored
>let's watch him jack off to this magazine to ensure he's not the killer

Spot on L.

>>149089408
>>149089455
>>149089499
Execution aside, I understood why the manga killed L off and had someone take his place. It's to establish Light would never be free of suspicion. He will always be on the run - and despite what he thought - he's not God. He's mortal and mortals make mistakes, such as the one that did him in.

If he was willing to kill literally everyone near to him, he could get away with it

>>149089761
it's not like they had much better guesses, especially considering the Raye Penber and police intel evidences.

http://www.gwern.net/Death%20Note%20Anonymity

Light fucked up all the way, but especially in these two steps.

I'm still confused on how Near found out Light was Kira at the end. Maybe I had a bad translation but it made no sense to me.

He takes the notebook and what? Replaces it except for one page and gives that to the obsessed guy? I don't know.

>>149089973
Pretty much. He lured Mikami out by having Mello kidnap Takada, then replaced it with the fake.

>>149085026
Did the author ever say what would have happened had Light not taken the bait?
It seems like a question he would have run into.

>fbi guy is following you
>sees nothing out of ordinary
>thinks you're innocent
>kill him
why?

>>149089973
Yeah he apparently had a guy make a hand made perfect copy of a magical notebook with infinite pages that had been used for several years
Mikami acted stupid, Light acted stupid
Here's how Light wins in the end
>don't say "I win" like a dumbass
>Near's guys capture Mikami
>say it's a set up by Near
>say Mikami is a guy hired by Near to frame him
>say Near has the death note, he's obviously fucking guilty
>storm out of there with your still loyal buddies
>kill everyone with the death note while in the car
There you fucking go

>>149090247
>"I win" like a dumbass
Well he is a dumbass. A narcissistic dumbass who thought he was god.

>>149087930
>>149089431
>>149087992
The REAL asspull is the fact that he did this despite the fact that it was stored in a bank safety deposit box, and breaking in to it happened offscreen and was glossed over as though it was no big deal
people use safety deposit boxes for a reason
banks are pretty fucking secure

I was quite rustled when Soichiro neither put a cap in Mello's ass nor told anyone his real name.

>>149089761
He wouldn't have done that had Light been smart enough not to hack his father's computer while he's chased by L. Plus since L knew Kira could kill with a name and a face, there was the option he could kill people in advance

>>149090291
He was never like that, it was completely ooc for him
The only thing that comes close was when he killed Misora, but he had complete control of the situation, absolutely no variables and no way to lose
He was still stupid
>hurr I'll make her kill herself and magically hide her body so her parents and relatives won't ever have peace about her because I'm sooooo evil
Just have her get run over by a car you idiot
Light's intelligence is too inconsistent, he's stupid because ge kills the fbi dudes, but does it with a foolproof and pretty stylish plan, he again stalks Misora and makes her suspiciously disappear, but was smart in having her hand over her own identity

>>149090247
>Yeah he apparently had a guy make a hand made perfect copy of a magical notebook with infinite pages that had been used for several years
Let's say they write 10 names (20 words) per day on it for 7 years. That's about 50 000 words. If Giovanni can write 1 word/sec, he can do that in 15 hours (night+morning). More if he got help. They might have cut corners too.

>>149090508
>He was never like that, it was completely ooc for him
he was always a dramatic fuck
Remember first chapter? "I'M A GOD HUR".
Lind Tailor ? Raye Penber ? That time when he sent tons his followers at Near's place?

>>149088000
>They had 20 different pieces of evidence she sent the tapes and the sender of the tapes was the second Kira. That's why they could go bondage on her : there was no doubt on her case.

That was not enough to prove she WAS any Kira and that she could have been manipulated to make/send those tapes retard, there was no evidence of her actually killing or any sign of note or whatever HENCE why they interrogated her and questioned how and shit while all she did was cry like a bitch and prove to be useless. They only fucking bandaged her because they believed she might have been Kira and who killed kill with eyes and had to lock her up that way to prevent any risks.


>Before Higuchi. Not after. That's bullshit.

No because she was in the fucking clear again retard, the rules written made it so it can't be her as such no reason to stalk her when all this proved she was just a pawn like Higuchi. L was busy dealing with the new death note he found and the shinigami so keep saying it's bullshit because you don't like it.

>>149090558
You're literally a god when you have the death note. You can cause WW3, Zombie Apocalypse, Peace Era, etc

>>149090518
>10 names per day
What?
Did you not see Light maniacally writing for hours at a time?
It's impossible, besides Giovanni isn't Japanese and he perfectly copied the Japanese handwriting of several different people?
Comd on it's fucking bullshit
>>149090558
Being dramatic is one thing, being stupid is another
If he wanted to be properly dramatic he'd have started pacing around and going on a monolog about his own suffering during his life

Has anybody counted how many times the word "shinigami" is said?

>>149090307
He didn't break in, he was a fucking cop working under international jurisdiction to subdue a mass murderer. The bank most likely showed him the way and opened it for him.

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>>149090614
>evidence
Shut the fuck up

Even when she was still a simple suspect he had someone tail her. No way anyone would let her roam around freely after that. It happened because author NEEDED IT so she could get the Death Note.

It's bad writing.

>>149080561
What would L and Light IQ be like

>>149090791
>I'm here to investigate a client of yours?
>who are you?
>international agent
>oh yeah, who? Can I see some ID?
>no, I work on the Kira case
>Kira? No thanks, leave please we don't want that trouble here

>>149090791
A: Their group was disavowed
B: the idea that a bank that would just open up a safety deposit box for some foreign police when local law enforcement has actively stated their intent not to get involved, meaning no local warrant, is absurd

>>149090734
>Did you not see Light maniacally writing for hours at a time?
That was at the beginning. After that there's no way there would be that many criminals who'd deserve that everyday.

Plus the "infinite" number of pages doesn't make sense from a physical standpoint (notebook doesn't get bigger) so either he didn't write that many names or pages are getting magically replaced little by little. Either way, Giovanni only has to reproduce a 200 pages book in a night. He's an agent working in Japan, I'm sure he writes well. Even if he can't reproduce Mikami's writing perfectly, he doesn't need to perfect pages other than the first ones and the last ones (he might not even need to make anything look alike if we assume Mikami was manipulated and thus wouldn't have been able to tell the difference between a potato and a dog if the note wanted it)

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They broke into the vault

>>149090923
The timeskip said the criminals dying were increasing in frequency
And the notebook is magic, it can probably hold all the pages while still being thin and weighting a ton

Near > L

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>>149090979
I gave the second half a fair chance but that was just an inexcusable asspull. And that was supposed to be the masterstroke. This shit is what ended death note

>>149090814
L 150
Light 140

>>149090802
This literally doesn't prove she was Kira, just someone who sent those tapes for 2nd kira.

They just believed she was and then found nothing from their interrogation.

If all this "evidence" was enough to lock her and claim she was the 2nd Kira for good, explain why she wasn't locked up.

Can't believe you're this retarded.

> No way anyone would let her roam around freely after that.

Maybe because she was clear from being a suspect and the guy had his hands on the thing he's been fucking looking for from the start?

>>149091060
They had his keys and cards though, what's stopping them from getting in?

>>149087930
Giovanni didn't copy the entire book.
Near manipulated Mikami to ignore and bring the notebook to the warehouse and become mentally retarded. Near didn't even have any evidence. He just forced the confession out of Light in a subtle way since he is 100% sure that Light is Kira. "Talk yourself out of this" is the giveaway.

Did anyone even read the manga jesus holy fuck.

>>149091089
>This literally doesn't prove she was Kira, just someone who sent those tapes for 2nd kira.
It also proves she was where 2nd Kira went to meet Light on the day the 2nd Kira found the first one.

Also, the rules on the Death Note say you can't manipulate someone for too long. If she was manipulated, then she'd have died. If the rules on the book are to be believed, they prove she's at least an accomplice of Kira. Meaning "the rules said she can't be Kira" isn't an argument for letting her go since the rules also say she was an accomplice.

tl;dr : nobody would let Misa go away after Kira is still on the run and she's been proven to be knee deep in this shit. It was done to enable Light's shitty plan (aka : just be a retard so Rem can be a retard too and do all the work)

Light lost because he trusted people who weren't as smart as him

>>149091316
That is true. He trusted Mikami not to be an idiot when Takada was kidnapped, for starters.

>>149091197
>using the death note to make a person do something and then using tbat action as evidence
How is Light not the lesser evil?

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You know what? Light's plan would have never worked. Even if Mikami had the real notebook, someone would have shot them both before dying. The heart attacks would have occured one by one, with 1 or 2 secs of interval. It would end in a stalemate.

>>149091595
>write everyone's names to die at an exact time together

>>149091701
He didn't though. He just wrote their names.

>>149091595
>the American agents all die
>Light: "See, I'm not Kira. I didn't plan that."
>Mikami kills Matsuda for good measure
>the taskforce runs out in a panic
>Light writes Mikami's name on his scrap of the Death Note and grabs the notebook
It could work.

>>149091858
>I won
>people start dying
>one of them pulls out his gun and shoot Light before dying too
>same for Mikami probably

I'd be surprised if Near hadn't told his agents to be ready to shoot Light and Mikami if they lost

>>149091275
>It also proves she was where 2nd Kira went to meet Light on the day the 2nd Kira found the first one.

This easily could be claimed as a mere coincidece and not enough to prove 2nd kira wasn't even with her at all.

>Also, the rules on the Death Note say you can't manipulate someone for too long.

Manipulation doesn't mean just magic brainwashing retard, she could have easily been threatened in multiple ways to associate with kira back then and just proved to be a useless pawn like Higuchi to L but only that it was impossible for her to be Kira. He had is hands on the death note and a Shinigami that Kira mentioned quite a lot, do not see why he wouldn't be focused on that than go through the effort of hiring criminals to spy a chick who provided NOTHING for months hinting she was anything but a dumbass girl.

>>149091983
>This easily could be claimed as a mere coincidece and not enough to prove 2nd kira wasn't even with her at all.
Except they had literally dozens of proofs from multiples sources.

>Manipulation doesn't mean just magic brainwashing retard, she could have easily been threatened in multiple ways to associate with kira back then
Then why would she forget about it? It would still mean she's an accomplice (even not by will) and thus worth following.

>do not see why he wouldn't be focused on that than go through the effort of hiring criminals to spy a chick who provided NOTHING for months hinting she was anything but a dumbass girl.
Maybe because during all these months she was on cameras and that was the first day he'd let her go in the outside world?

Why WOULDNT he put tapes in her apartment when he already did it for Light and those other suspects family?
Why would he even consider her to be in the clear when Kira is still on the run and she's still proven to be an accomplice at the very least?

>>149090247
But that wouldn't stop mikami from referring to light as God nor would it change the fact that mikami wrote down everyone's names but Lights. Besides, you have to remember that at that point light thought he had it in the bag so "I Win" was his last chance to gloat, like the smile he gave the dying L.

>>149092131
>Except they had literally dozens of proofs from multiples sources.

None which claimed it was impossible for the 2nd Kira not be around with her.

Forget? Who's to say she isn't acting so she doesn't lose her life or anyone close?


She was obviously more of a pawn than an accomplice and thus not worth following for so long.

>Maybe because during all these months she was on cameras and that was the first day he'd let her go in the outside world?

More like a shitty cop that was tied to her who she easily abandoned before and did nothing but help L instead of escaping or do anything that makes her more of a suspect.

>Why WOULDNT he put tapes in her apartment when he already did it for Light and those other suspects family?

For fuck sake its because light was suspected due to evidence of someone gaining access to police files while being a student and he let the dad know first. He can't do shit like that randomly.

He didn't focus on her because again she was useless and factually not the 2nd kira, not gonna say this again but he had a fucking Shinigami and a magic death book infront of him, no reason for him not to fully focus on this than waste time on pointless shit that gains nothing for him.

>>149092708
>She was obviously more of a pawn than an accomplice and thus not worth following for so long.
It's worth it to put cameras on suspect who are <1% likely to be Kira but following a proven accomplice/alive pawn after releasing it into nature isn't?

>More like a shitty cop that was tied to her who she easily abandoned before
And fucking cameras everywhere in her flat, just like it should've been

>For fuck sake its because light was suspected due to evidence of someone gaining access to police files while being a student and he let the dad know first. He can't do shit like that randomly.
So Light being related to the police (suspicion) is okay but Misa having sent the fucking tapes and doing shit as/for the 2nd Kira isn't?

>He didn't focus on her because again she was useless and factually not the 2nd kira, not gonna say this again but he had a fucking Shinigami and a magic death book infront of him, no reason for him not to fully focus on this than waste time on pointless shit that gains nothing for him.
Yeah except he would've gotten a proof Light was Kira by following her literally 2 HOURS after he released her. This is straight bullshit. Stop trying to justify shitty writing.
Other Death Notes exist. At least one is in the nature. This is proven by Higuchi's death.
Misa was related to Kira. This has been proven.
Completely forgetting Misa when Kira is still around is simply dumb. Nobody would do that, especially not the "world's 1st detective".

>>149080561
I agree with you. A neet with an average iq would have been unstoppable with a death note compared to his dumbass.

>>149091586
Do you even read?

There are no evidence. Just the Light confession. Confession is not an evidence.

>Near
>Caring about good vs evil

Pick one

>>149089761
I always liked how no matter how many times Light has proven himself innocent in front of L, the fucker will constantly find reasons to keep pinning Light as Kira despite saying there's only a 3% chance when it's really a 99.9%. Near the end there it was becoming quite monotonous.

>>149094467
Near cares about good/evil, he's just not afraid to get his hand dirty. I'm pretty sure that if executing Kira is an ethical matter it's not about evidence.

>OP is about Light
>thread argues over Misa

>>149087930
>seven years of writing with at least a page being written almost every day
How many pages does a death note have?

He didn't get caught though. He killed L by manipulating the blonde dyke.

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You know how it should have ended? They catch him and then eventually lets him go because no sane prosecute would prosecute him.

>>149084770
Not actually. It's not like the investigation was going anywhere anyway. Forcing someone you think is lying to react to information they shouldn't have is a pretty good strategy.

>>149095239
They'd have locked him up or shanked him and threw the body in a river

>>149091595
Why did Light think having Mikami peeking in the door would be a good way to kill them off?
When there is aboutlutly no way for him to verify the integrity of either Mikami or he's death note.

Light is pretty resourceful, why not just have some thugs come shoot/bomb everyone, when he had the location down. He could have done that without even using the death note.

>>149097119
Near would cancel the meeting if it wasn't for the Death Note being used

>>149097165
He wouldn't really have to know that there would be more people than Mikami coming

>>149097421
I guess, but they took time to check the place before so putting a bomb before is not okay and bombing the place during is hard without killing Light

>>149080656
And killing the first few with a heart attack instead of something more creative,that's how people caught on

>>149084786
I always wondered why not use the Death Note for benevolent purposes. I see why.
Probably has something to do with it making the user feel life is too easy to erase.

>>149080561
Light's biggest mistake was not getting the eyes from the beginning.

>>149092872
>It's worth it to put cameras on suspect who are <1% likely to be Kira but following a proven accomplice/alive pawn after releasing it into nature isn't?

No because there's a fucking process and the task force would not support that after she's been cleared, putting camera's in a house isn't something you can commonly do in the first place anyways and would need permission to even do such a thing.

You must be retarded if you think you can just go and simply put camera's in anyone's house so easily, it only happened with light because it was necessary to find out who was tapping in to police database and even then he had to gain permission to do such a thing.

>And fucking cameras everywhere in her flat, just like it should've been

Yeah yeah because you can just do that with anyone huh?

>So Light being related to the police (suspicion) is okay but Misa having sent the fucking tapes and doing shit as/for the 2nd Kira isn't?

Because one was necessary while the other isn't and like i said, had to tell Light's dad first.

>Yeah except he would've gotten a proof Light was Kira by following her literally 2 HOURS after he released her. This is straight bullshit. Stop trying to justify shitty writing.
It's straight bullshit in their situation they would even be capable with weak evidence and with her proven not to be kira and even gain acceptance to put camera's in a house simply in just a couple hours.
>Other Death Notes exist. At least one is in the nature. This is proven by Higuchi's death.
>Misa was related to Kira. This has been proven.

People started dying right after higuchi died proving it can't be her if she was still with the task force at the time too and this same kira clearly needed name+face so it obviously wasn't the kira they suspected misa from. It's more logical to think after evading the police for so long the real kira wouldn't be retarded enough to speak or reveal himself in front of Misa as soon as she was released anyways.

>>149100040
>You must be retarded if you think you can just go and simply put camera's in anyone's house so easily, it only happened with light because it was necessary to find out who was tapping in to police database and even then he had to gain permission to do such a thing.
What due process? Stop pulling shit out of your ass. Watari put the cameras using Light's father intels.

>oh but they did it because they NEEDED TO FIND THE SNITCH IN THE POLICE
That's not how it was. They had a few suspects. They planted cameras because they felt it was he only thing to do to stop Kira.

There's literally no reason to do it for suspects like people related to the police and not for proven accomplices like Misa after releasing her into the wild. None.

>Because one was necessary while the other isn't
>due process
>acceptance
kek
I'm fucking done with that 'discussion'. L hires CRIMINALS to get his shit done. He sent people in Yotsuba's HQs. He build a building and choppers. He even intended to lock up Light's father to avoid him interfering with the case after the memory loss.

And now he can't put cameras in the culprit's house because there's a due process? Fuck off. I'm not wasting any more of my time with a braindead cockmongler

>>149084237
It was a "If I'm going down then I'm taking you with me" kind of moment
>>149084995
Assuming of course that any court would accept the death note as evidence.
>>149089327
That doesn't sound like justice

>>149100372
>That doesn't sound like justice
Not killing Light because he should be brought to justice and potentially allowing him to escape and keep killing is more of a sin than just shooting the fucker

>>149100169
>What due process? Stop pulling shit out of your ass. Watari put the cameras using Light's father intels.

Ohh for fuck sake you really don't remember shit and are just going off spouting shit, L literally asked the entire task force and Light's father he would like to place wire tapppings in their houses and the father gave them the A- OK. If they tried to do this with speaking to her actual agent they would all get prosecuted for this shit and guess what, it took watari an entire day to do such a thing.

>proven accomplices

>still saying this shit

You clearly don't know how things work and just picking and choosing shit.

I mean really
> He even intended to lock up Light's father to avoid him interfering with the case after the memory loss.

Despite the father being the one to propose the thing in the first place?

Fuck outta here with your bullshit fanfiction

>>149100457
But L, Near and his team are the kind of people who would do just that, with all their talk about justice and law.

>it's another death note thread

L and Light had a nice friendship going. It's sad that they are enemies.

I want to watch a spin off of them teaming up and fighting some other Death Note user which is as smart as them.

>>149100585
Only Near and his team. L used criminals because the author doesn't want to get his hand dirty.

L loses because he is too busy outsmarting Kira.
Near and SPK won because they stay with their primary objective: Get the notebook.

>>149100372
>Assuming of course that any court would accept the death note as evidence

They said in the show even if they couldn't get the note as evidence the higher ups would bullshit there way in to getting kira death penalty

>>149089973

>boogeyman outside
>writes everyone's name
>except "kira"
>check who's name is not written
>it's light

made u think?

>>149085026
I wonder what would happen if someone killed off the world's very richest people (like the top .01%) and made it a once-a-year occasion

>>149095366
this
One of bigger mistakes in the anime was not including the final chapter, Near was not beneath using the Note himself to kill off Mikami so I'd guess Light would just be dealt with similarly

If Light had been more clever he could've realized all of his ambitions before the age of thirty. Instead he acted like a stupid ghetto nigger who just won the lottery and blew his wad until he got caught.

To me the series officially ended when L died. The rest is just fan fiction.

>>149100650
You mean Kira vs L vs evil Death Note user?
Sounds fun, Kira and L team up with "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" reasoning

>>149100964

Yes, at first it will be a three way battle between them, L suspecting that Light is actually Kira, and vice versa.

Hijinks and drama ensues as they discover there is actually another entity that is using the death note and they team up at the end.

Being L is suffering.

>99% sure that Light is Kira
>but no concise evidence
>get close to him to get evidence
>develop a friendship instead
>for the first time, found someone he could really be connected with
>know one of them dying is inevitable
>finally make a move
>gets killed instead

That part when L and Light was in the roof top and it started raining.. there was so many emotions conveyed.

>>149101285
If Misa never existed, how would Light v L end?

>>149101110
>at the end
Light would know immediately, L would realize it fast
AU is set after Misa and Light meet but before she gets imprisoned
L keeps doing his thing but notices new Kira murders are different, target different people etc.
Suspects new Kira is even more dangerous, attempts to coerce Light into revealing his identity and reveal information
Light decides to meet up with L outside and has Misa show up and reveal his name, then they handshake to seal their alliance

>>149101332
Three options:
1. stalemate continues indefinitely, which would be Light's victory,
2. L locks Light up, either by becoming confident enough or losing patience, searches his room, Death Note gets destroyed, killings stop, Light is released due to lack of decisive evidence,
3. Light decides to blackmail governments, jews and other top shots via pre-death messages into cooperation in eliminating L.

>>149082692
>Blackmailing people sounds like a way to die even faster than he did.
You could control people at will with the death note too, you know? Why even bother with blackmailing

>>149087380
He means Ray Penber's fiance

whatever her name was