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WSJD - The Promised Neverland 2016-10-17 16:15:18 Post No.
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Niggastream is taking their time once again, so here go. Provided by WSJD-kun. Chapter 11.
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>>148673737
So glasses isnt bad. I wonder who is the mole.
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Hello?
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>>148674199
Is it me you're looking for?
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>>148674230
Baby Emma a qt
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>>148674309
End. Also how?
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>>148674370
What? How did Gilda know the location they told to Don?
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>>148674419
Isn't that the real location? They told don behind his bed and it cuts off before he says where it actually is and mama replies like she's finishing the thought
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>>148674419
That's not what happened. Gilda and Don got two infos. Gilda went to meet Nigga Mama and tell her the Ropes are in the ceiling of the bathroom on the second floor. Don didn't do anything. ??? told Mama where the rope actually is which only the three main kids know. So either one of the three is the traitor or someone is somehow spying on the.
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>>148674419
Because it was Don who told mama, not Gilda
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>>148674370
It's a bit confusing but I think someone (Don) slid a paper under Mama's door and -then- Gilda came and paused in front of the door, ready to knock, before being intercepted by Niggamama. It makes no sense for Gilda to pass a paper note discreetly and then also knock. It's just hard to follow in the manga panels.
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>>148674505
I dont think there's a third suspect. It's Norman speaking the "It's behind my bed" so Don's the one spilling the info to Mama.
Gilda is most likely in cahoots with Sister. It's a bait and switch with the paneling in >>148674309 leading us to belive that Gilda went to Mama's room when in fact she didnt.
It's like those scenes in movies and series when a character goes into a room and then a character suspensefully goes to enter it but it turns out he went into another room.
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>>148674683
I thought behind my bed =/ inside the bed.
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Don is an established traitor (gave the crucial information immediately without question) and Gilda is a new traitor (wanted to meet Mama for the first time to reveal the whole thing in detail). Black Mama intercepted Gilda and wants her to be her own traitor and source of information.
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>>148674683
There could be a third suspect though
They knew the location they told both Gilda and Don and knew where the rope actually was
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>people actually didn't get it
Don is Mama's spy.
Gilda is Sister's spy, or at least Sister is trying to win her over.
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What if the reader is the real spy
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This fucking manga is killing me
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No anons, its:
>gilda is mama's spy
>gilda figured out the real placement of the rope
>Sister saw her going to mama and caught her to make gilda her spy
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>>148673334
No more :3
Only >:3 now
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>>148673414
>On November 8
With the 4chan servers burning, Mama will be too preoccupied trying to shitpost on /k/. Norman, you genius.
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You can see that Gilda was going to knock on a door. So she isnt Mama's traitor
However, the info on the letter is the info the gave Don.
In the last page, they cut short where the rope wa supposed to be and show us the letter, which implies that is the correct location of it. But only the trio should know that. Therefore...
>Ray is Mama's traitor
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>>148675921
How did Gilda figure out the real placement then?
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>>148674309
>>148674370
FUUUCK.
did not assume Don AND Gilda were both traitors from the spoilers.
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>>148676112
She didn't. Norman never revealed the real location to the reader, will probably do so next chapter. However, she was going to meet with Krone, at her office, cause she's her spy.
As for the slip of paper, either Gilda left that under Isabella's door and then went to knock on Krone's, meaning she's a spy for both, or Don is the one who left it (likeliest possibility) since it has the location that was disclosed to him.
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>>148676096
Actually it's Emma
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>It's not Don
>Letter only says "bed"
For fuck's sake you autistic fucks, pay attention. It's Don. The letter is short so there was no space/time to explain in detail, hence he left out th part that its BEHIND the bed and only said its around it. It's Mama that read the words and assumed he meant inside it, not behind
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>>148676112
> speedreading in action.
there a 3 ropes:
- gilda: bathroom
- don: bed
- real: ???
the unshown person who slid the note was intentionally not shown.
gilda knocking was supposed to make the reader think she was the note writer.
the note's reveal is evidence that don was the note writer, thus 2 spies total.
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The spies do not know the real location of the rope. The rope is NOT in Norman's bed. Normal would never choose "behind his bed" as a fake location if the rope is hidden literally within arm's reach. More importantly, the notes under Mama's door only says "Norman bed". If the author wanted to convey that the spy knows the real location then obviously the note would precise whether the rope is IN the bed or BEHIND the bed. The notes doesn't precise because there is only one location, behind the bed. The mangaka wanted to make the scene abruptly shift when Norman is about to say the real location of the rope. The real plot twist at the end of the chapter is that both kids are spies, but they each behave differently. Don is an established spy, Gilda is a first-time traitor. Hence, Don immediately passed the minimal amount of information necessary while Gilda hesitated and decided to come in person.
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>Norman says it's behind his bed
>anons think real location is inside it
Jesus that would be retarded. Obviously the letter is from Don and inside the bed isn't the real location
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>inb4 it's not Don but another boy that heard Norman telling it to Don
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What do you think is Norman's plan to get rid of the transmitter embbeded in their ears? I don't think this is the kind of manga where two dozen kids are going to mutilate their ears with rusty spoons. I assume they plan to use a strong magnet or something of a similar nature which should painlessly disable the electronics.
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>>148676579
I think they will have an actual plan to get rid of the transmitters but one of the main characters will be forced to mutilate his or her ear for dramatic effect because they will be out of time. Probably Emma.
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Look at that first panel in >>148673315 and look at >>148673373. The art is so fucking pretty. It's a downer that the story (so far) is limited to a single location (the orphanage). This author has so much potential for scenery porn.
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>>148676579
The transmitters are Ray's problem to deal with.
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>>148676579
Ray is supposed to be good at mechanics and electronics right? He's probably building something that'll interfere with the transmitter's radiowaves.
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>>148676645
No, if someone is gonna mutilate themselves it's gonna be Norman. The dude is willing to do anything for Emma, remember?
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PLANS WITHIN PLANS WITHIN PLANS
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>>148676764
I actually love all of this. You can really feel how autistic the writer is and how well he has everything planned out already. At the least for this arc.
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The real location was shown back in the chapter where they searched for rope. They hide it in a tree trunk in the forest.
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>>148676270
this
don in confirmed mama's spy and gilda has at least some connection to nigga mama, we'll have to wait and see if she'll spill the (fake) location.
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>>148676993
They never expect the :3 But it's always the :3
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>>148676993
kek, emma being rated at the same intellectual levels as Norman and Ray feels entirely unwarranted at this point.
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>All the other kids are spying shitheads
>Only escape with three people
It's a fucking blessing in disguise
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>>148676653
>implying we won't get demonic landscapes when the children escape
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>>148676993
Gilda and Don are retards compared to the main 3.
They should've gone to Phil, who has a ~200 score being as young as he is.
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>>148674739
It just says ''norman, rope, bed''. Mama`s making the assumption that it`s in.
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>>148676396
>Gilda is a first-time traitor
She might not be a malicious traitor though. Last chapter, Krone assured Emma she was in ally in the event that she had been involved with the "incident". What if Emma wasn't the only one Krone reached out too though? In that same chapter we see her staring at Gilda from afar, it's possible she made the same offer to her ("Isabella is bad, and I want to help you"), and now that Gilda got confirmation of that, she's going to Krone thinking she's trying to help them.
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>>148676993
I want to fuck Ranni.
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>>148677174
Well, scores aren't everything. They mention that Emma is a bit behind them but has similar potential.
>>148677227
The main reason they went to them first is because they're the oldest and they need them to take care of the slow young kids.
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>>148673315
the ideia of neverland is full of potential, but the execution is so boring. the only thing they do is talk. gilda, don, I don't give a fuck for them because the narrative doesn't let the characters interact properly.
>"that night gilda and I talked a lot. we laugh a lot ..."
instead of using narration, makes it a visual experience, damn it!
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>>148677289
Still makes her a filthy traitor though, albeit a dumb one
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>>148677454
If they spent multiple pages having traditional manga dialogue we wouldn't have gotten a quarter of the way into the plot as we have now.
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How long thill this turns into a battle shonen?
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>>148677506
who said anything about multiple pages? one or two are enough, but not allow real interaction makes the characters become just plot devices. the escape will be pointless if the reader doesn't care about the characters.
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>hurdur mangaka should show not tell
>mangaka shows not tells about the traitor situation
>/a/ is confused
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>>148677454
It's a shonen manga. Their target is kids/teenagers so they will want to make sure they get it.
While the part you quote could work without narration, it's not unnecessary to have it because it put emphasis on Emma's feelings.
>I wasn't alone, she understood
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>>148677454
Nigga you do realize it's only been 12 chapters right?
It only feels slow because it takes a week for each chapter to come out
Assuming you are not a slow reader these chapters would have taken you a hour at most to read in one go
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>>148677786
>It's a shonen manga.
>>148677821
>Nigga you do realize it's only been 12 chapters right?
it is precisely for being a shonen manga that characterization needs to be better labored. identification is the basis of all shonen manga. and the first chapters are crucial for this. it's not about being slow, but about being too plot-centered.
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>>148677732
expected desu
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>>148677732
>/a/ is one person
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>>148677786
>While the part you quote could work without narration, it's not unnecessary to have it because it put emphasis on Emma's feelings.
>>I wasn't alone, she understood
if this text had been transformed into a scene, the feeling of the character would be more expressive, so when (if) she was betrayed, the emotional impact on her and on the reader would also be higher.
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>>148678271
>/a/ isnt one person
Then why am I replying to myself?
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>>148674747
>all the speedreaders ITT
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>>148674370
Look.
Sequence is
>??? slides paper under door to MAMA'S room.
>Misleading cut to Gilda standing there
>Figure coming up behind her we think is one of the protags
>It's actually Sister
>Emma says Gilda is in front of SISTER'S room
>Note is info Don was given
Gilda was going to go talk to Sister Krone about shit, and it seems Krone was waiting so she likely talked with Gilda prior.
The ??? is most likely Don as the note has his given info. HOWEVER, this could be a mislead again, as we never see who it really is.
Don could have spilled it to one of the other boys who is the actual one giving the info. Unlikely, but possible.
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>>148678341
>if this text had been transformed into a scene
What the fuck does that even mean? There is a scene happening, the fact that there's text over pictures doesn't erase that.
Or are you too blinded by those damned narrator boxes that you can't see it?
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So what do the spies receive in exchange?
There has to be something they get for doing the dirty work of betraying their own siblings. I guess it could be some sort of protection from the demons.
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>>148678442
in an actual scene. again: via interaction. the text summarizes the whole interaction in few words.
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>>148673334
PHIL NO
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>>148678492
Most likely conditioning. Mama raised the kids since infancy, they're probably very strongly attached and do what she says without hesitation.
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>>148678492
mama convinced them the other kids are lying
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>>148678492
Emotional validation and approval? Not that they're emotionally starved, mind you, but since Isabella was the only adult around until recently, being praised by Mama is a big deal, specially at their ages.
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>>148673737
>Glass is not the mole
I am glad, I like her design for a reason and I was fearing she was the mole.
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>>148674370
>they're both spies
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>>148677732
>/a/ is confused
That's good though. We are having a real discussion right now and that's fun
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>>148675981
You mean /pol/?
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>>148678492
Don may not believe them, if Mama has warned him that they would try to recruit him.
They know nothing about the outside world so hearing that they want to escape would be a pretty scary thing to think about, better to stick with Mama for protection. And then even if what they said would be true, giving her information may also mean escaping the bad fate of the other kids.
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>>148677469
>dumb one
Can you blame them? they are kids that have live in world free any danger with a loving family and mother, and you come and tell them everthing is a lie.
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WHAT IS GOING ON?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVZN9wgEMbA
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What if Norman was the one giving the note? he has been observing Don and Gilda in secret, he knows Don give info to mama by notes, so he pass a false note to mislead mama while securing Don's real note or something.
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>>148676570
It's obvious who it is
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All of you are idiots.
Norman is the one speaking, so when he says "We'll tell Don [...] it's under my bed" he's referring to his own fucking bed.
This chapter basically just told us that Don already told Mom with the note, and that Gilda was heading towards Giga Nigga Sistah's room to tell her where the rope was hidden.
I'd imagine that Norman had already anticipated the event that both of them are fucking snitches, so none of this really matters in the end.
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>>148677195
You know Emma's not going to leave them behind anyhow.
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>it's the nigga
sasuga
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>>148679554
Norman will though.
And making it look as inevitable too, no doubt.
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>>148677454
>instead of using narration, make it a visual experience, damn it!
Is this your first time with anime and manga? You do realize that literally 90% of all the stories in this shitty fucking medium is conveyed through expository narration right.
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>>148678492
Headpats
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>>148680282
giving the nature of this, I can see it happening. Don or Gilda being jealous that Emma, Norman and Ray always get some praise and attention from mama because of the scores, and this is their way of getting that motherly love the want.
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>>148680282
As silly as this sounds, simple affection from Mama like being praised and "making her proud" could be their whole motivation for being her mole. Considering Mama is the only adult figure they've known their entire lives, it's only natural they want to be bathed with affection, especially if they feel like there's some sort of bias with Mama showing much more effection to the trio for having the highest scores.
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>>148674309
I think shitty glasses is in love with Norman and went to find him on his room. This is a trap and she isn't the spy.
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>>148679699
but not all the time. even hiatusxhiatus know when shut the fuck up and let the drama lead story. i guess neverland is a manga to make theories not to care about the characters.
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>>148681437
>even hiatusxhiatus and deashit note*
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>>148674230
Emma is so scary. Didn't get fooled one second.
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Gilda might not be a second spy, she might have realized that Norman hasn't told the complete truth, and now wants to get to the bottom of things on her own.
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>>148683399
by knocking on fucking GNS's door?
Norman seriously underestimated Gilda's retardation.
At least the confrontation between Mama and Mrs. Harambe is pretty much ready to happen now.
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>>148683516
I don't think Gilda was knocking on Nigress Mama's door. I think she was about to knock on Vanilla Mama's door but then got intercepted by Genderswapped Harambe. The line "I was waiting for you" is probably supposed to mean that Dindu Mama was waiting for a spy to report to Mama so she could hear from them first.
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>>148684112
Wouldn't have Gilda protested though? Saying that she was there to see Mama, not Krone.
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>>148684112
If so, Emma would have made a comment baout Gilda being Mama's spy, not sister's
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>>148684112
>I don't think Gilda was knocking on Nigress Mama's door.
>>148674370
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>>148684112
You just have to look at Gilda's face in that panel to discard this theory.
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>>148684462
Isn't that exactly what is happening? Gilda is clearly uncomfortable. She was about to knock on a door and then Noob Saibot appeared from BEHIND her and surprised her. This meeting is clearly not what she had in mind, however she has no authority (and no reason) to say no if African Mama wants to talk with her in private. Emma says "what's doing on" because obviously from her point of view Gilda should be lead to Mama's room, not away from her door, like what is currently happening. Emma already knows that Gilda is the spy (from the moment she sneaked from her bed) but now Emma is confused because she doesn't know why Africa Mama would want to talk to Gilda in private. The two mamas should want to listen to Gilda together. The one thing that the children have not taken in consideration in all their plans is that the two Mamas are not working in cooperation. That is what they will deduce from this situation if they are smart. Two spies, two Mamas with different intel.
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>>148684934
She could be uncomfortable because of Krone's touch. If anything, if Gilda had not been expecting Krone there, she'd act surprised and fearful about her presence. Just because Krone apeared from behind doesn't mean it wasnt her room: she was simply not in it at that moment. And Emma being surprised is because she expected Gilda t hurry to Mama's door, not Krone's
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>>148685329
But Krone said she was waiting for Gilda. Shouldn't she be waiting inside the room if it was hers? The fact Krone had been waiting means that she didn't simply happen to arrive at that moment. She had been waiting, outside a room, for someone to come to a room.
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>>148674370
I find it an interesting move by the author to include a third party in Black Mama, that can work with the kids to escape.
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>>148685882
She could have been waiting for G8ilda to give her more news, but without a specific day/time for it. Afterall, the kids told Gilda the 'truth' that very same day so it's not as if Gilda might have had time to alert Krone that she'd have news.
And/Or Krone could have been snooping around the place, came back to her room to find Gilda already there and made that comment
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>>148685882
She could also have been waiting to corner her, in case Gilda was unsure and decided to go back without knocking.
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>>148674370
let's see if mods gonna delete this again
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>>148674370
NANI?!
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>the promissed niggerland
keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek
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>>148683047
Kinda hope most of these kids get killed because trying to develop them all or keep them in the main cast will be a real pain
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