How much value do you put into visual direction?

None. I'm a Shaftfag.

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>>148412997
>None. I'm a Shaftfag.
Same.

Fuck off already.

>>148412970
More than half of these are the same shot. Please learn what a director does.

>>148412970
It's the last thing that matters in any good show

>>148414112
"visual direction" is not limited to shot-making, especially when it comes to animation

I hate this softened glowy shit style becoming increasingly popular in modern anime.

>>148412970
It can't make the show but it can be the icing on the cake.

It's very important in a show.

>>148412970
Notodisushittoagain.jpg

>>148412970
How many same threads will you make over and over about this shit?

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Quality of visuals and animation - 20%
Sound and OST- 20%
Plot and/or characters in case of character driven SoLs - 40%
Direction - 20%

What's visual direction AOTS?

>>148416621
Flip floppers of course.

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>>148416621
Ishihara: What I personally put a lot of energy into was the Uji Fireworks Festival. It really resembles the real deal. This might make me sound like a maniac, but since there hasn’t been one in the past two or three years, I reproduced it from memory and older photographs. When I went to consult Nagura-san who had the photographs, we also made sure that the sound of the announcements would also echo like in reality.

>>148414462
Same, it looks like a DICE BF game.

It's way more important than plot at least.

>>148412970
None. I'm blind.

>>148417505
How are you posting this?

>>148418061
Key magic

>>148418061
I let my little brother type it in.

>>148416752
>bland compositions, bloom abominations, same tired art direction
>visual direction AOTS
k

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Very much so.

>>148412970
Nobody in these threads ever talks about editing, why?

>>148416662
If we were only talking about the ED, yeah.
But the show itself is nothing special.

>>148418274
post good editing

>>148418224
>assravage
k

>>148418309
I don't have anything to post, but I'd say Occultic;nine had the best editing of the season so far.

>>148418360
It does have good editing but the character designs are terrifying.

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>>148418309

>>148418381
Replace the lamp with Sakura wrecking that monster.

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>>148412970
>that same fucking cloud scene
Dropped. Every fucking time.

>>148418396
Aside from the titty monster the design are alright, and it has great character animations.
It's overall one of the most interesting shows of the season visually, with many great shots. Too bad it's all wasted for such a garbage source material.

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>>148418451
This one?

>>148418360
>>148418488
I guess I'll watch it, I don't really care if the sauce is bad.

>>148418523
Yes.
There's just something about Yamada doing a little gore that's exciting.

>>148418381
You better be around when Violet Evergarden hits, nigga

>>148418582
Yamada storyboarded that episode?

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>>148418270
Only good one in this thread.

>>148412970
>how much value do you put into visual direction
>of a visual medium

>>148418830
Directed and storyboarded.

>>148418887
Blame Kyoanifags for posting ordinary, mundane shots all the time pretending that they're a big deal.

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>>148418942

>>148418887
Yours is pretty meh too though.

>>148416621
I really liked March Lion.

>>148419133
Best backgrounds, but the rest isn't great.
I especially don't like the coloring on the characters.

>>148419368
Example of what you mean?
Backgrounds are gorgeous, yes, but I think it does a great deal of other things right too.

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>>148416621
Keijo.

>>148416621
flip flap is nice, yuri is also beautiful, eupho too

there's a good crop of shows this season that look really good

>>148419594
best season in a while

>>148419877
Fall has blessed us with a bounteous harvest

>>148420018
And we have good movies on the horizon.

>>148416621
Yuri?

>>148418482
Do you not have Cumulus congestus clouds where you live? I thought you were pointing out some cloud reference everyone was copying, but all the clouds in your pic look different. Are you also triggered my the sound of cicada's in anime, or snow, or any other season signifiers?

>>148418973
No wonder why it has some of the best editing, characterization and shot composition in the series. And also a bit of visual symbolism, yuribait and hair sliding with fingers.

>>148420731
Her episode in Free S1 was the best one

>>148416621
flip flap/hibikek

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>>148421733
If you're including one for kyoani at least include the right one

>>148421733
>it's all fujoshit/yuribait
Really makes you think

>>148422436
The best directors work in yuri/yaoi bait series?

>>148422436
about how you're a buzzword spouter?

>>148422436
gay to gayest I think it goes

Mob, showa, flipflap, eupho, yuri

>>148415766
>>148418381
>>148418942
What the fuck is this shit?

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>>148422558

I still can't believe Ufotable shows are 8 times as expensive to make as the average. Most of their backgrounds are literal matte painted photos which are much cheaper to make than actual digital or traditional painted stuff, and their animation is very basic, all sword slashes with shit choreography and average character animation. In what exactly are they spending all that money?

>>148422610
>I still can't believe Ufotable shows are 8 times as expensive to make as the average.
Who said they are?

>>148422558
overproduced mundane scenes

>>148422661
My mom works at ufotable.

>>148422664
As opposed to:

>>148412970
Nothing but wide angle shots of screensavers

>>148418887
More screensavers and static shots with dramatic shadows.

>>148418270
This one is good though.

A lot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVxI-612IhY

>>148418270
This is the only good thing in the thread.

>>148422918
based yamada

>>148422779
Even if it's good, it's shit if it's by KyoAni.

What goes into visual direction? Is it everything related to the visuals? What makes for good visual direction? Can it be analysed out of context or only when relating to the actual scene?

I wish you lot actually discussed visual direction in these threads because I'm retarded and don't really understand it. Post a scene and explain why the visual direction in it is good/bad, don't just post them and say nothing.

I know Yamada is respected, what makes her good? Why is Flip Flappers one of the best directed shows of the season? Why is >>148418270 good but >>148412970
isn't?

>>148424120
I guess visual and art direction are the same thing.

>It is the charge of a sole art director to supervise and unify the vision. In particular, the art director is in charge of the overall visual appearance and how it communicates visually, stimulates moods, contrasts features, and psychologically appeals to a target audience. The art director makes decisions about visual elements used, what artistic style to use, and when to use motion.

>One of the most difficult problems that art directors face is to translate desired moods, messages, concepts, and underdeveloped ideas into imagery.

>>148424120
She captures youth drama adolescence in a way that hasn't been done in anime before, redefining film form realism via animation to showcase an expressionistic portrait of everyday life that wouldn't be possible in live action.
>>148422918

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>>148412970
It's not very important but its nice if its there.

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>tfw no more good Shinbo
>tfw Oishi is the only good director of their group left

>>148424520
I want this Takemoto back.

>>148424347
Art director is a specific position in anime production though, they're in charge of background art.

>>148425050
Wait for VEG

>>148425132
But I guess when people use the term visual direction here, they mean that, not just background art.

Is photography the most important part in a good visual direction?

>>148425444
No.

>>148425444
No

>>148424652
>all this for one attack

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>>148412970

>>148425913
those designs look very frenchy

>>148426957
I hate characters with Brock eyes

>>148427369
Top middle one is impressive

>>148415766
>>148418381
>>148418942
>>148424520
>>148426215
>>148427369
Could you possibly make a little tutorial explaining how to make webms like this or perhaps link me to one? I'd love to start making some like these but have no idea how.

>>148427820
Install gentoo

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A lot.

>>148427865
Nice ebin /g/ meme.

>>148412970
visual direction? you mean like right in front of you? because that's all you can see with your vision

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>>148427820
Any video editor that allows multiple video clips stacked in the same timeline and also scaling can do that. I use Premiere.

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Anyone with the BD rips mind remaking this for me?

>>148428162
I've never used a video editor before but I guess I'll have to now. Thanks.

>>148412970
Medium-ish. Fidelity and fluidity in animation is nice and all, but if the writing is shit then why bother? Remember the dumbassery that was Zankyouu no Terror? I can watch a shitty looking show like South Park and still be entertained because the scripts are fun and the visual style, while crap, fits well with the crude nature of the show.

I'm not saying people shouldn't strive to make good looking shows, but fancier isn't always better and definitely isn't the most important.

>>148428551
Zankyou no Terror was good

>>148429195
I can't even fathom how someone can believe that.

>>148429195
Good to look at. The rest, not really.

>retarded kids being "terrorists" without wanting to hurt anyone making wikipedia-ble puzzles that any fucking detective that is worth a damn can solve, but only 1 guy can.

>cartoony villain around half way through that breaks the immersion.

>pointless girl that does nothing but cause trouble and is a horrible passive observer all together

>statement that could be conveyed at the beginning of the show to save everyone's time.

Probably would have been better as the generic edgefest people hyped it up to be.

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>>148428372

>>148429195
No, it wasn't.
>>pointless girl that does nothing but cause trouble and is a horrible passive observer all together
The best moments of the show were about her and Twelve, though. She just didn't do anything in between and her whole family shit went nowhere because they just took her away and that was the end of it.

>>148430160
Why is Watanabe obsessed with the whole 2guys1pointlessgirl thing?

Hibikino tomorrow.

>>148430219
He made some comment a month or so ago to the effect that for his whole career, potential funders had always asked him where the cute girls were. So I think I think maybe he just doesn't like using females in his main cast but has to for funding reasons.

>>148431350
How's that autism working out for you?

>>148431350
black and white and solemn is for adults
vibrant and emotional is for children

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>>148431350
Why didn't you include palette for the kyoukai image?

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>>148431498
>vibrant and emotional
Vibrant and so devoid of human emotion the only people who claim to 'connect' with it have autism spectrum disorders

>>148431559
what site is this?

>>148431637
I don't know, just google color palette generator or something, I'm sure there are better but that was the first link, already closed the window.

>>148431350
KyoAni is the reason anime is not considered a serious art form by any extent.

>>148431691
thanks

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>>148431754
I'm fine with that.

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>>148431350
>angery

>>148431350
This is why you watch original direction and work of Osamu Dezaki

>>148431980
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7PzbJk7kBY

>>148418887
>It's like Dezaki but bad!

>>148431980
But Digi likes a bunch of Kyoani shows

>>148412970
can you name all of those?

>>148432282
or is it just 1?

>>148432282
They're from the same show.

>>148431350
Ikuhara and Anno have outgrew Kubrick and Bergman.

>>148432433
Broccoli and little boy love story when?

>>148418270
sauce?
help a pleb out

>>148432433
I like Violet's.

>>148432811
My daughter Koto is so cute

>>148430091
thanks

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>>148432419
KyoAni has outgrown Ikuhara and Anno to be quite and completely honest.

>>148433167
Well, Anno doesn't do shit and Ikuhara is too niche and shit to work with.

\>>148433061
>>148432433
What the fuck does this autism prove? This is just random shit that doesn't merit highlights.

>>148423216
For GitS it shows the cold harsh cyberpunk setting through the palette and choice of colors, It enhances the mood for the viewer and fits hand in glove with the theme.

>>148418270
For Seisouhen the color palette and angles/shots complements the mood and the tone of each scene and setting. Especially the changing of the seasons which coincides with Kenshin's character development.

>>148433590
>neutral
>night
>sunset
>day
Doesn't seem that hard to figure out.

>>148431350
>Appeals to the kind of people whos favorite film includes 12 Angry Men and The Shawshank Redemption

Ironically, you went too overboard with the subtlety of the bait, here. It's too aggressive in its elitism for anyone to take it seriously.

Not to mention the whole applying live-action standards to animation, and vice versa, thing.

>>148432629
Hunter x Hunter

>>148433240
They haven't outgrown their past works. You don't judge artists by the present. If you look at it that way then Da Vinci must be a shit artist because he hasn't made anything in hundreds of years.

>>148412970
this isn't visual direction, this is just really fancy backgrounds. the "visual direction" itself is shit

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How can KyoAni compare?

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>>148434618
>Naruto the Last
By grossing more at the box office with half the screenings.

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>>148413202
Shaft is good visual direction for people who don't know what good visual direction is

pic unrelated

Most of you keep posting background grids, what's so impressive about that? Shinkai movie backgrounds blow pretty much everything out of the water.

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>>148434673
>By grossing more at the box office
Nope
>The Last: ¥2.0 billion
>KnK: ¥1.3 billion
KyoAni amateurs can't compete with based Pierrot.

Not to mention
>Boruto: ¥2.62 billion

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>>148412970
>>148426022
>How much value do you put into visual direction?
THIIIIIIIIIIS MUCH

>>148434862
KnK is already at 1.6 billion. You're probably getting those numbers from that somethinganything site which is complete garbage, go straight to the sources.

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>>148434901
But that's still not 2 billion.

Kyoanus lickers on pooicide watch

>>148434991
>>148434862
>>148434618
>Still images

Why are KyoAnifags always one step ahead?

>>148434901
Boruto: 8 weeks, 268 screens - 2.6 bil
Koe no Katachi: 4 weeks, 120 screens - 1.6 bil
Shameful. Naruto is dead.

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>>148435070
Pierrot puts KyoAni to shame in every department.

No one cares about your 3 second long tumblr tier webms lel.

>>148435213
>lel

I knew you were from /v/.

>>148435110
They release new naruto movies every year. It's actually impressive that they consistently make 1 billion even though all the movies are average to below average in terms of quality outside of animation.

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Reminder that Kishimoto is a kinofag

>>148435427
His art is very average, though.

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>>148435427
>>148435471
Naruto is pleb filter. Only retards can't appreciate a work of art with so much depth and nuance in every single scene.

>>148435492
I don't know if this image is supposed to be subtle bait or not, why did you include those ridiculous reactions from Pain?

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>>148435471
Only because he can't handle a weekly schedule.

>>148434748
Their shows have really poor draftsmanship like 90% of the time, though. Pretty nice visual ideas are often in there but they're totally sabotaged by the wonky drawings.

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>>148435540
>those ridiculous reactions
Like I said, pleb filter.

If you can't recognize the brilliance of Matsumoto's animation then your opinion is worthless.

>>148432629
Trust and Betrayal, they nailed everything, OST, art, animation, fights, etc

>>148418408
sauce?

>>148436620
>fights
But the fights had that annoying seizure-inducing flicker effect. It was the one flaw of that ova

>>148422769
My condolences

How do I filter pass users?

>>148435568
Wow, his art would be better if he had easier deadlines? What a shocker, that's really different from everyone else in the industry.

It doesn't matter what you could do under other circumstances, it matters what you actually do in the ones you have.

>>148435568
Hopefully his next manga is monthly, his art is really good.

>>148435471
He's better than most mangaka as a draftsman.

>>148436620
I thought the drama was silly.

>>148436797
True. And it's still above average.

>>148433167
HAHAHA having this shit taste. Nothing in there holds a candle to eva. Not even close.

Stupid fucks talking about visual composition and hwatnot without even having grabbed a camera, a brush or even watched auteur cinema.

>>148437105
Stop projecting.

>>148437105
>eva
>meaningless visuals: the anime
>good

>>148433792
Not him, but those are shit movies anon. Not only hollywood has pants on head retarded visual direction but for some reason anglosaxon culture seems to be as a whole historically behind the rest of the world.

Go watch some kitano or kim ki-duk and get some taste, then get back to us.

>>148437093
I don't think he ever learned how to simplify his art in an appealing way, but he's good at that camera stuff he talked about.

>>148436256
The rebuilds are a huge step back visually from the original series.
It looks like generic kyoanus now.

>>148412970
>this newfag always making the same thread

>>148412970
I loved Sidonia no Kishi so I guess absolutely none.

>>148436684
Monogatari.

>>148437267
Yeah, the shot in the fourth row/third column looks like it's from Monogatari.

>>148437267
It looks digital, cel animation has this grain and slight desaturation that makes it look more cinematic

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>>148437344
>cel animation has this grain and slight desaturation that makes it look more cinematic

>>148433167
And you are cancer trying to fit in.

>>148433167
As expected of the studio pushing the industry forward.

>>148437154
No. You have to be blind not to see kyoani hasn't got a single competent person working there.
All they have is inflated budgets and decent but
(but mediocre)animators.

>>148437344
It's not just that, the original series had much better shot composition, more aking to art films.
Now it looks like generic anime for visually retarded otaku.

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>>148437398
Keep crying, I enjoy it

>>148436490
>Pass user
That explains it.

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>>148437344
>this whole post

>>148437423
KyoAni budgets are below average, and you're just nostalgic.

>>148437423
Try to be consistent with your retardation.

>>148437437
Make sense, newshit.

>>148437498
More

>>148437498
Fuck off, ESL.

>>148431350
Shaft is for autists who think Tarantino is the BOAT director and people who think feces and vomit smeared on canvas is better than the Mona Lisa.

Cancer thread.

>>148437660
(Kyo)anal cancer thread.

When will they actually squeeze out chocolates and not shit sculpted to look like chocolates?

>>148437484
>>148437494

No, you both are ignorant on this matter and should shut up.

Anno's visual direction has always been praised while nobody talks about your shitty kyoanus generic otaku shit.

>>148437750
Nice bait.

>>148437710
Indeed. Why is it always the same newshit who makes these threads though?

>>148437750
>Anno
isn't that a washed up hack?

>>148437815
Why do you assume it's always the same person?

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>>148432193
Watercolor paintings isn't exclusively Dezaki's thing though, in fact that art director of Berserk 97' worked on a decent amount of Dezaki's anime as well which is why those water paintings will a lot like some of the ones you'll see in Golgo 13 for example since they're done by the same guy.

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>>148438131

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>>148438434
Jesus that is ugly as fuck.

>>148438434
chunibyo
>deliberately avoid kiss
phantom world
>kisses, incest and rape
what did ishihara mean by this?

Someone seems to be filtered in this thread, is it the Narutard?

>>148438548
How do you filter piss users?

Why are film elitist posers the most annoying type of person? They're worse than 2deep4u fags whom are more ironic than not. It's not hard to cite classics that range from decades of animation work. As if shot composition is the only thing that matters in fucking ANIMATION. I hate you wanna be film critics.

I really appreciate your work Cinegrid anon(s.) They're nice and I save every single of them

>>148437750
It doesn't change the fact that Kyoani works are below budget. Berserk (2016) has more budget than Nichijou and you can't prove me wrong.

>>148438647
Click on the arrow pointing down next to their post number and select filter by pass date. You'll filter all users who got the pass that year, but pass users are retards anyways.

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>>148438548
>>148438647
>using the 4chan version of down voting
Maybe you should try going to r/film where you can circlejerk with the rest of the pseudo-intellectual Kyoani-loving hipster faggots who think they know anything about "visual direction."

>>148438702
Thanks.

>>148438702
>but pass users are retards anyways.
Says the moron who still fills out captchas lel

>>148438691
I honestly don't know and don't care much.
Kyoani is incapable of pushing anything not mediocre out of their door anyway.

I can't wait for KyoAni's next masterpiece.

>>148439359
You can wait 14 hours

>>148437477
old HxH looks better

>>148415766
the fucking idolshit episode

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>>148438715
The way Kurenai falls to the floor after hearing the news about Asuma kills me.

>>148437224
Just because a movie isn't part of the greats doesn't mean it's a bad movie. "good" isn't synonymous with "bad".

>>148412970
>tfw you asked a friend "isn't that the Tales series where the two guys hook up at the end?" and he instantly dropped it
>I'm not sure if this is the one

>>148437838
Well, that Pole with a jihad against Aniplex is pretty notorious around here.

>>148439822
He just said those are the type people whose favourites are those two and he's right.
They're a both decent to good movies to pass time but if any of them is among your favourites is just because you haven't seen much.

>>148415766
How do people make these?

>>148439359
You'll have to invent a time machine and travel back to before Haruhi came out.

>>148443162
But Haruhi's not that good.

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>>148412970

Ufotable = sky porn + some people standing

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>>148427925
fvck off scot

>>148438533
There was a yuri kiss in chuuni, so I guess it all rounds out now

>>148428551
Because I value form in every medium over all else. In anime it's the quality of animation and the visual direction, in cinema it's the directing and acting, and in literature the prose.

>>148445046
But like, those are such small parts of the form. Why single them out?

>>148445106
It's exciting, the techniques used to convey things are fascinating, most narratives and themes are conveyed by people with out enough life experience for me to care.

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>>148445193
>liking idolshit

End yourself. You are the cancer killing anime.

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>>148446471
Yeah, you better hide. Get out of my sight.

>>148432419
>ikuhara and Anno better than the guys who made BARRY FUCKING LYNDON and The Seventh Seal
yeah no

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>>148415766
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please make more