FLIP FLAPPERS

To be yuri? Yes.

Yes, and it will fulfill that potential every single episode. Episode 1 was great, and 2 looks even more fun, colorful, and imaginative.

>>148308374
Stop being an annoying retard.

>>148308311
Does Papika have lights dancing in her eyes?

>>148308506
Honestly, he's right. Episode 1 screamed Yuri.

>>148308311
no
>muh sakuga

>>148308311
Prediction - by episode 5 or 6 the main complaint made against this show will be that it is DEEPshit.

Can't wait till this gets popular so I can start shitting on it.

>>148308520
She has lights dancing in her soul, and you know what they say about eyes being the window to the soul.

Warning: The first episode is not representative of what the show is going to be like.
I'm already annoyed that their cute designs will be almost entirely replaced by the transformations we've seen.

>>148308559
(you)

>>148308745
Thanks, I live for (you)'s

>>148308735
>almost entirely
Doubt it, that will probably only happen for a few minutes an episode, fights and such.

As much as I was anticipating it, the show doesn't have a point yet, no reason to care about what's going on. If it weren't for the fact that I was looking forward to it I would have dropped it by now. Obviously it wasn't "technically bad" but the fact that the show has not presented a single reason why we should feel invested within its opening 20 minutes does not bode well for the rest of the series.

Also the sakuga is massively overstated but because that's what people were hyped for nobody is going to concede that the animation wasn't particularly good. Some of the action was fine and I like the artstyle quite the bit, but idle animation such as characters walking or expressing emotion is choppy as fuck and almost hurts my eyes to watch.

The impression I'm getting so far is that it would have been a great deal better if it were just a film or short.

>>148309240
>the show doesn't have a point yet
The point of every show is to get the viewer entertained. You don't need more than that.

You're just confused because the show did not give your sorry ass enough exposition in the first ep and you feel lost.
Plot is just an excuse, a fake justification, what matters is the execution.

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>>148309240
Your judgement on the animation is terrible, everything in the show for non action scenes was at least as good as your average TV anime or better and the action scenes were indeed notable, if you have a series with animation of that quality in it weekly it will make it something quite special.

>not presented a single reason why we should feel invested
Because it was really fun and there are so many questions about the interesting world to be answered? I swear unless the whole explanation is handed to you on a plate anime viewers can't handle 5 minutes. There are films that haven't even introduced their main characters 20 minutes in.

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Apparently they grow taller/older when they transform. No 13-year-old girl fanservice for us.

Anime fans seem to basically want to have everything that is going to happen explained to them upfront and then to watch it happen.

>>148309789
>No 13-year-old girl fanservice for us.
More leg service for us is what you meant.

>>148309789
Shouldn't Cocona at least be around 17 since the beginning of the episode implied choosing a college and whatnot?

>>148309837
It's a vocal minority.

>>148309995
It's Sailor-Moon tier.

>>148309789
>wings

So thats why its called Flip Flappers

>>148308311
first episode didn't really grab,ill give it two more.

>there are people that don't get all the obvious set-ups for future episodes and the copious amount of ominous symbolism in the first episode

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>>148310303
>中学二年生
Middle school second-year, so they are 13-14.

>>148310477
Word on the street is episode 3 is where the plot really kicks in and the blonde childhood friend from school and papika fight for cocona.

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>>148309789

>>148310582
I still find the hair switch confusing.

>>148310674
I could deal with it better if they didn't also switch eye colors.

>>148309240
>but idle animation such as characters walking or expressing emotion is choppy as fuck and almost hurts my eyes to watch.
How do you even deal with watching TV anime then? Even the most well-animated TV shows will have animation downtime with obviously limited animation.

>>148309522
Anon. There are two people with hearts point to Cocona on this chart.
>>148310680
Not to mention that speculation is that Yayaka will be part of the evil organisation with the robots and want Cocona to join them to go to Pure Illusion together instead of with Papika.

>>148309789
Promo artwork loves showing Papika barefooted

>>148308311
>Flip-Flap Flip-Flap

>>148310800
It makes her give off more of a natures child kind of naivety I think. Wild forest girl, untamed force of nature.

>>148310303
>>148310398
>>148310582
True, junior high is the end of compulsory education in Japan. From there you need to get into a high school like you would get into a collage.

>>148311016
so you can decide just not to go and start working from there?

>>148311048
If you want to bring shame to the family.

>>148310871
I can hear the end theme playing in my head.

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>>148311048
Yes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Japan#School_grades

>>148311092
Unless you come from a farming village in the sticks.

>>148311167
Middle schoolers are the best~

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>>148310428
The organisation that Papika escaped from is called Flip Flap

>>148310582
So the translation was accurate when calling the exams Cocona has to make a choice for "Mock Exams"?

I guess she is practicing for the real entrance exams next year. Seems odd though.

>>148311210
>using heterosexuality as an insult
>not even a single mention of it on that post

>>148310582
>>148309789
>inverted hair colours upon transformation
Why is this allowed?

>>148308311
Papika is just about the cutest thing I've ever seen. Would daughteru.

>>148309240
>the show doesn't have a point yet
So?
>the show has not presented a single reason why we should feel invested
Great character and art design, and an interesting world were enough for me.

>>148308506
Stop being an annoying faggot

>>148311048
>>148311167
15 really isn't that odd or backwards. School finishes at 16 in the UK then you have to choose to go to something else.

>>148308311
She looks like a frog.

The brain in the robot gag got me good, I'll say that.

>>148311374
Wait the good guys organisation are called Flip Flap and thats where the name Flip Flappers comes from? I just noticed you already wrote that in your post but I feel like I am going to post this anyway because I felt a small sense of accomplishment when I realised it by reading the image.

>>148311571
>gag

>>148311620
It was very much played as a gag, he is right. They opened the thing like they might stand a chance to fix it, made some what in the fuck faces when they saw the brain, then closed the lid and noped the fuck away from it.

First episode was okay but it felt more like yuribait than anything.
Some of the side characters look interesting but they don't get a lot of screentime so I'm waiting until the next few episodes before judging.

Papika

It's all style no substance. I would say that if the next episode isn't ADD ridden then they may be able to pull it off.

>>148311611
>good guys

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>>148311741
>he uses the phrase "all style no substance" unironically

>>148311684
Yayaka will get a lot of screentime.

The twins are a magical(?) girl/boy couple.

There's another pair waiting in the wings. One of which you can see in the army of robots in the op.

>>148311796
They were presented as being good guys in contrast to the people with the robots. Whether that turns out to be the case or not though who knows. The way that dead girl was just left laying there in their lab was kind of dubious though.

>>148311626
>Hillary is going to win
>if she doesn't Trump will
>glorious year

Pretty much the worst year ever.

>>148311841
>I have no argument and I must meme

Pathetic. I don't even like the show.

>>148311919
All style and no substance is meaningless in art. Style literally is substance. Meaning is conveyed to you through visual information and the style of that visual information creates substance in and of itself. Using the phrase style over substance makes you seem like an invalid. There are much better ways of saying what you are trying to say without looking dumb. For example, "They seem to have put a lot of effort into making it look nice but the story seems a bit lacking".

>>148309506
>The point of every show is to get the viewer entertained. You don't need more than that.
Then it fails completely because so far it isn't compelling.

Also not that guy.

>>148312051
>so far it isn't compelling.
I disagree. I am thoroughly compelled by what the show is doing even if we haven't been given lots of details about the plot itself.

>>148312035
But the show doesn't communicate anything through its art style other than Papika is genki and the robot being shitty at its job. Assume your last sentence is true if you can't argue and have to rely on technicalities.

>>148309837
That's stupid, just give the audience something to care for.
It was 20 minutes of girls playing in the snow and then one of them go super saiyan. Cocona is compelling because she obviously has some worries about her future but that's it so far.

>>148312120
Ok, change it all to stick figures, it will certainly be the same show;.

>>148312129
>implying 20 minutes of girls playing in the snow is a bad thing

Boy do I have news for you

>>148312110
I'm not, I just didn't care until the ending when plot finally happens. You can deliver the same basic story of the first episode in a way that is more entertaining.

Anyway, I'm not gonna drop this yet because I know some good shows start really bad, also the art direction is great. But I'll give it a few weeks without watching it and then marathon what is there.

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>>148312151
Not really, the only draw for this thing is sakuga and yuri. I think that pic related sums it up.

>>148312129
>didn't like Papika.
Oh you poor thing.

>>148312155
Fuck off, Miyazaki. I don't care about your borefest movies about nothing just because they have cute girls. I'm not that braindead

>>148312051
I found it quite highly compelling, lots to be interested in and amused by and entertained by.

>>148312129
Girls play in the snow for about 3 minutes and the whole point of that scene is to help establish their relationship in order to give you something to care about when Papika risks her life for Cocona's glasses as the established a friendship. Don't you think if they didn't have that bonding scene it would be utterly nonsensical that Papika would almost get herself killed for some glasses? It is hardly sensical even with the snow scene.

>>148312204
What's going on in this pic?

>>148312204
>not really
Indeed I am correct, style is substance, if you got rid of the art style, character designs, animation style and changed the backgrounds to something different the entire show would feel different there wouldn't be those wierd magical looking worlds, the whimsical feeling character designs and so on. The style creates the world and the feeling that world and the characters give off. That world and finding out more about it is one of the most interesting things about the show right now.

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>>148312198
>I'm not, I just didn't care until the ending when plot finally happens.
Then I think you have very poor taste.
>You can deliver the same basic story of the first episode in a way that is more entertaining.
If you don't find this Precure-goes-to-wonderland entertaining then there's no helping you.

>>148312218
I'm neutral about Papika so far. She's cute but I'll wait to see what her character is about other than typical innocent kid that doesn't know about social boundaries.

>>148312242
>Girls play in the snow for about 3 minutes and the whole point of that scene is to help establish their relationship in order to give you something to care about when Papika risks her life for Cocona's glasses as the established a friendship. Don't you think if they didn't have that bonding scene it would be utterly nonsensical that Papika would almost get herself killed for some glasses? It is hardly sensical even with the snow scene.
I got that. I just didn't care for it at all. When Papika went under the water and Cocona went SSJ it didn't incite any emotion within me because it's familiar territory. Dunno, it's very newbie screenwriting. I'm just not fascinated by it.

>>148312314
>Then I think you have very poor taste.
Sure, whatever gives you a bigger sense of self, anon.
>If you don't find this Precure-goes-to-wonderland entertaining then there's no helping you.
Oh please, I love the concept and visuals. The execcution was the boring part.

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>>148312370
>I'm just not fascinated by it.
There's plenty to be fascinated by in the episode.

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>>148312465
Visuals, yes. Story, no.

>>148312440
>The execcution was the boring part.
I really don't get why you would think that.

>>148312370
I wasn't particularly invested in the characters at that point but all the threads left hanging and clues about the wider world setting have me intrigued and interested. I don't think it was supposed to be a huge emotional pay off as much as making solid their relationship. Prior to that cocona was still trying to refuse to let papika in and remain detached.

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>>148312496
Visuals can convey Story too.
I think that letting the visuals do the talk in the first episode and managing to pull in the viewer into this magical/fairy tale type adventure is a bold move that needs to be praised.

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>>148312519
>I really don't get why you would think that.
Because people have different taste in entertainment
In my case, I have better taste though.
>>148312538
Oh, I am sure it will get better, or at least I hope so because the show is so damn pretty and the world building is just starting. But I didn't crave immediatly for more after it ended. Let's see how it goes and let's cross our fingers for it to become more interesting and become the evangelion of madoka.

>>148312620
>Visuals can convey Story too.
They definitely can. Maybe if Pure Illusion was more intriguing, besides the giant monsters, the dreamlike feeling and sense of wonder conveyed would have been greater. In this case, I found myself being more fascinated by the ending with the fairy tale iconography than the show itself.

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>>148311447
I'm hearing things about SW, Flip fappers, Regalia, and Ping pong saki. Is it blatant or average subtext? I need my homo fix after Pandora.

>>148312658
>Because people have different taste in entertainment
Taste is something, but arguing about whether or not something is well executed is something else.

Where are the rumors that Iso is working on this coming from? I can't find shit on 2ch.

>>148312658
>But I didn't crave immediatly for more after it ended
I did because it seems to have a sincerity and energy about it that the majority of seasonal anime sorely lack. My reaction upon finishing the episode was that it was pretty much everything anime should be. I really hope it can become a solid show too but I think I will be able to forgive it quite a lot just based on that sincerity and energy if it still feels that way. So much anime just feels so intrusively commercial that it is hard to take seriously as a creative outlet in the grand scheme of things as a show rather than appreciating individual craftsmanship. I didn't get that vibe at all from this rather it feels more like something lovingly crafted with intent to create a certain world and story. Even if that story isn't particularly subtle or nuanced that still counts for a lot in my book.

>>148312311
It might have cool pictures, but it is a confusing mess that fails to provide any context. The characters aren't even anything special. Very little is being communicated by the "art" beyond what already exists to pander towards our enamored friends from /u/.

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>>148312740
>Maybe if Pure Illusion was more intriguing, besides the giant monsters
It's pretty obvious that what Pure Illusion looks like is going to be different every week. The intriguing part is wondering what it's going to be next.

I also found the ruined buildings and tramcars mysterious, are those related to what we saw in the real world?

>>148312793
Ping Pong is literally gay.

>>148312869
Not explaining everything to you immediately and deliberately doing so is not a confusing mess. The plot of the episode was quite straight forward and easy to follow. What you are confused by is thinking you should be able to understand everything you see when the show is clearly withholding that information currently.

>>148312868
While I don't agree completely, I truly respect this argument anon.
Though the yuribait and Papika's costume felt completely commercial IMO.

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>>148312793
Yeah, it is exactly what you are looking for. It seems like a missed opportunity that Stella and Vivid Strike aren't super homo as well.

>>148312948
So the visuals actually aren't communicating a plot or anything substantial and the writers just haven't decided to actually explain anything yet? Glad to hear.

>>148312948
>when the show is clearly withholding that information currently.
Not that anon but while I'm ok with withholding information for the sake of creating a mystery, I found that what we got while we wait doesn't create good intrigue. I'm not waiting to see what is going on, like in, say, Punch Line. It just has this feeling of filler. A way to introduce the characters in a very dull way.

>>148313033
I was addressing your point of things being a confusing mess. Which I assume was related to the plot and world itself. The plot was quite straightforward. There are lots of things about the world though that weren't explained. The art itself served to create an intriguing world around the characters which seemed alive and gave you the feeling that there was a lot to be explained in that world. This is really a much more subtle approach than a lot of anime take to world building, they have just dropped hints and clues for you to piece together and speculate based upon rather than ruining the intrigue and mystery by having one of the characters spend 5 minutes of the first episode explaining the world to us under the pretence of explaining everything to the newbie in the show.

>>148313160
I guess that is just a difference of opinion then as I am highly interested to learn more.

>>148313033
You seem determined to suggest that a show must explain literally everything that's happening on screen and if it doesn't, then it has no plot when that is clearly not the case. Call it generic or shitty, but it's there.

Perhaps some more context would have been beneficial, but the lack thereof does not in any way harm it's narrative. You might not find it entertaining and that's ok. Many people do though

>>148308311
it's really lewd which is kinda gross when it's pretending to be innocent and fantastical but w/e I still liked it good art direction I'm going to keep watching it

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>>148312370
Does it help to know that her head is thoroughly messed up? After all, in the third image in this pic she must know that Cocona will probably die, just like all her other partners, but she seems completely unconcerned.

Papika is a bit of a psychopath in some respects, although she shows plenty of empathy later on towards Cocona and very briefly in regards to her previous partner.

>>148313188
There are a million ways of developing a world without infodumps and similar methods. As I hinted earlier it isn't unlike the Star Wars prequels in that it refuses to present the world in an organic or human way, forcing you to put the pieces together because of how it lazily presents everything. They aren't even going back to the snowy Pure Illusion next episode, so snow covered buildings and giant snow monsters hardly herald anything beyond lol magic.

Take the show that >>148312793 mentioned. It opens up the world not through infodumps or backdrops, but one by one showing you terrorists on TV, frequent outages, and frightening advances in technology all while the MC stays optimistic and dorky. The style in FliFla does none of that, and works as a poor replacement.

>>148313409
Pandora has a vastly different setting and so will establish it's world in a vastly different way.
FliFla starts in a mundane school setting which we can assume does not differ drastically from our own.
Then we find out that there is a secret organization attempting to enter an even more secret dream world that may or may not be real.
Pandora's narrative revolves around operating in an established world while FliFla appears to be focused on establishing that world and it's characters from the ground up.

There has been a single 20 minute episode and while not a lot happened, the way it happened and my desire to see what happens in the future will keep me hooked.

>>148313409
>There are a million ways of developing a world without infodumps and similar methods.
Yet anime rarely choose any other method.
>forcing you to put the pieces together because of how it lazily presents everything
No this isn't lazy at all it is the complete opposite, they have deliberately shown hints of some things and not others. It is far more effort than most anime go through.
>now covered buildings and giant snow monsters hardly herald anything beyond lol magic
Yeah it was pretty obvious that would be the case from the get go. I assume there will be similar occurrences in the future too. It is the kind of thing that happens quite often in MOTW anime (not that this is one) but it seemed on that level of importance, it was there for a function to advance the plot. You could speculate that those were part of the test referred to by the Flip Flap. Some kind of purposeful putting them in harms way to try force a transformation from Cocona.

>one by one showing you...The style in FliFla does none of that
I'm not entirely sure what you are getting at here but there is quite a lot that is just shown to you in Flip Flappers. For example we know that what happens in Pure Illusion has effects on the real world because Cocona's glasses were still broken and they made a point of demonstrating that whilst not making it obvious that they were trying to convey that underlying property of the world.

Are the later episodes going to be full of suffering?

I feel the episode actually failed to do its "show don't tell" thing properly. They had so little to actually say, it ended up feeling empty and shallow. They had this crazy girl and robot in this magical fantasy world but all they in it did was fairly mundane and not interesting enough.

They had a snow fight, explored for a while, gave some /u/ pandering and a bit of foreshadowing before the main action scene and then it was over with the usual cliffhanger.

I won't give up on the show yet because it's the director's debut and he has tons of room for improvement over the course of the show but, as it is, the first episode wasn't much different from your typical seasonal fantasy show and that made it a lot less interesting than it could have been. Of course the visuals are still a good selling point even if the story isn't great, but that depends of them not wasting all the budget into the first few episodes.

I didn't understand shit in the first episode. I like the art, animation, character design and pretty much everything but it not explaining much in the first episode.

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So is
>dude I didn't understand they don't explain anything lmao
the new le epic troll of the season?

>>148313770
If you were going to criticise the show don't tell thing, I think what you are trying to say is whilst you don't think that its a bad thing they just didn't "show" enough to grab your interest in the first episode?

>>148313882
I can't even begin to imagine how these people genuinely making this complaint would handle the Black Rose arc of Utena.

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>>148313770
I feel like you're giving the show too little credit.
There's plenty of easily missed little details or implications and subtle touches thrown in, probably foreshadowing too but we can't be 100% sure about that until we see the rest of the story.

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>>148312496
It's truly on par with Studio Ghibli scenery.

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I don't usually frequent 4ch let alone /a/ but I think you're all missing a lot of things in the show. Please check out the opening, the ending sequences, the characters that appear, the PV, the animals and insects in the top half of the ed, and you might be very, very surprised. I think this show is going to have a lot of surprises, and it's already leaving a lot of ominous details that might require a keen eye to pick up on.

This is one that struck me after I saw a Japanese person point it out.

That's a skull.

Some of you are even selling it short, saying it did not convey enough information. No, it really did. There is a lot to put together. The show is already making heavy use of framing elements in its scenes to tell their own story.

>>148309837
Some people hate having a show have to gain interest over a long amount of time. If capable why not hook us from the beginning?

>>148314023
This is going to end up being DEEP isn't it? I can feel it.

>>148314023
hey this reminds me of another anime about little girls that got really grim all of a sudden...

The show clearly has something to say but I think it's still legitimate to complain about how articulate it's being in doing so.

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>>148311167
>going to school until you're 27 years old

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>>148314023
>this is a skull
Usually I'd wave this kind of thing off as coincidence, but the ed has a dark fairytale aesthetic so I'm not really sure.

Show is fun and cute. Surprise of the season.

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>>148314023
Yep, the show has subtly been develoing the theme of Illusion by inserting famous opitcal illusions in a way that most wouldn't spot.
So far there's the clock/cup with 2 faces, the young lady-old woman during Cocona's dream and that skull.

Now that I think about it, the panning shot over the rows of robots during the OP certainly did create the illusion of movement, so it qualifies as an optical illusion.

>>148314080
there's also strong elements of deception going on, the prelude reveals a possibly dead body wearing the same clothes papika is, the opening features people who make brief cameos in the show having battles with one another (these same characters are even paralleled in the ending sequence.) The entire OP presents two distinct styles too, one dark and even featuring the characters being haunted and killing monstrous entities by burning them alive, and the bottom half cheerful, exciting animation that may draw viewers attention from some of the imagery above. But even the way it's framed, as almost two separate halves of the picture.

Really, keep a close eye out for these things, even go frame by frame at times if you rewatch it. There really are many, many little details that are telling their own little story. Hell, considering there's three distinct moments where near kisses happen (I'm counting the hourglass in the first few frames), the show is really trying to get people emotionally invested, and I think it's done a good job by being such a high energy production.

>>148314112
>thinking an undergraduate degree will land you a job

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Complaining that the plot is a mess or that it didn't explain anything in a 12/13 episode series is like complaining
that a 2 hour movie doesn't make sense 20 minutes in.
It is the laziest criticism for people who have no understanding of story progression and just want to complain.
You don't have to like it, but finish the damn thing if you want to comment on it's story. Right now that is impossible.

If it weren't for the promo material, we wouldn't even know these fuckers' names. Does that mean they are non existent? Of course not.

>>148314236
the entire ED sequence features two distinct styles**
obviously.

also the e-mail field being called the options field throws me off. Gotta get used to that, haven't posted here since 2014.

>>148314264
a bachelor degree can get you great jobs here in the US. and you don't need 27 years of schooling minimum

The ending feels familiar, like the Jinrui ED

>>148314236
the problem is that all of these details don't actually add to up to much that's coherent in the first episode. Maybe they will later and it'll be great but for now they're basically decoration until the show substantiates their meaning.

I was emotionally invested insofar as Cocoa's POV was well-realized, but there's a pretty big disjunct between that and all of the lore the OP and ED are currently implying.

>>148314322
A creator doesn't insert all that imagery without having intention behind it. I haven't seen 3hz's other productions although I'm definitely interested now. I'm just saying they've put on some clever shots already, they've shown some important information and had just enough dialog touching on it to draw some conclusions. Of course things aren't going to make total sense yet, but there's plenty to see and pick up on. I'm very curious if any of you even noticed the skull until I posted it? I didn't the first time.

>>148314322
just to be clear I don't actually mind that the show didn't explain anything in the first episode, and rather enjoyed it because it added to the sense of wonder and disorientation that Cocoa was obviously experiencing. But I can understand why someone would be irritated that a series of seemingly arbitrary events was occurring into which they were supposed to invest. I think if the show has fastidious writers who pay attention to plot mechanics and temporal details and such (like Madoka's) then the show could be really good. If it's just a bunch of disconnected visual ideas it might fizzle into nothing. so who knows.

Clench your rectums and hold your jizz for a couple more episodes, people.

>>148314236
It is so easy to miss that little blue haired girl in the OP amongst the robots literally never noticed that after watching four times over.

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>>148314376
>A creator doesn't insert all that imagery without having intention behind it.

I think they definitely do, if by intent you mean "something other than a simple aesthetic/tonal decision". Especially if the show is written largely incrementally.

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>>148314023
This is harder to draw a conclusion from, but the clock tower clearly looks like it has eyes and
combined with the twilight and the bell ringing, it gives off a very creepy vibe as well.

>>148314395
I see it so far as the creators trying to get the viewers emotionally invested, considering how much emotionally charged events happened, there was a clear feeling of being taken up and down on a rollercoaster. This to me does hint at a sort of Madoka style deception, what with some of the flat out deathly imagery shown.

To me, some of the best ways to get people engaged is to make them have fun and treat them to things they like. Everyone likes a bit of young romanticism, cute girls, exciting moments of tension, fast, smooth feeling animation that gives a sense of weight and momentum that makes the viewer feel like they're on a little ride, and the first episode had it all.

I was even cynical at first checking off some things that felt a bit cliche in the opening, but by the time they were eating the sweet snow I was happily going along with everything going on.

>>148314236
>characters being haunted and killing monstrous entities
I can't see this at all in the OP? Are you talking about the PV?

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>>148313882
>>148313961
You should have seen Horizon's threads.

>>148314395
>a series of seemingly arbitrary events
Unless you're watching your super artsy fartsy stuff that isn't going to be the case. So whoever is irritated because he fears he is just watching nonsense is a moron.
We're talking about a show made to air on tv, not a weird art project OVA.

>inb4 flip flap ruins christmas

>>148313882
there's a difference about not understanding because it didn't deliver and not feeling investing because nothing of interest was presented in the first episode
compare to madoka, which has a ton of intriguing questions while being an excellent first episode where characters and motivations are introduced everywhere. It's attention grabbing, and interesting.

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>>148314513
VERY likely to be intentional. Look closely. at the top half.

>>148314465
Anno himself is a man of playful deceit

>>148313760
Shown as in presented with a full package, rather than entirely through backgrounds as FliFla did. What happened in Pure Illusion had no bearing the the setting as a whole other than showing that she can make magic rocks when she gets excited. Again, it is pretty pictures rather than any substance in the form of actual plot. Hardly any of what happened in Pure Illusion mattered as it would just cycle away, so the backgrounds don't actually communicate anything beyond the fact that there are fantastic elements

>B-but Utena
Utena had actual symbolism which depicted everything from the emotions of characters to foreshadowing later events. It established real context through dialogue as well. Giant trees and tons of snow and a chick flying around on a hoverboard don't show anything beyond that the director thought that it would look cool. Buried buildings aren't hinting at a post apocalyptic future or latent regrets, they are just there as visual padding.

>>148314513
I posted the same screen in the other thread. It looks to me like the school is watching them, and if that were the case there might be a connection between the School itself and the Organization. It wouldn't be the first time a school was used to recruit magical girls (see: Symphogear)

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>>148314213
>the clock/cup with 2 faces,
You know it looks like it could be a sand timer too that shot and there is also one in the OP.

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>>148314531
I meant in the ED. That was my mistake. Lack IDs make it hard to keep track of individual posters...sorry, really not used to 4ch.

>>148314670
The hourglass is on Cocona's windowsill.

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>>148314615

I'm astonished you can give such trenchant analysis of this show after one episode. Tell me more, senpai.

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>>148314670
I called it a clock because it has numbers on it, but yeah it is also a sand timer.

I enjoy watching this
out of all of the releases

>>148314677
man theres gonna be a bunch of idiots taking that shitty bait

>>148314677
The ED is just a visual retelling of Hansel and Gretel. I don't think there's any ambiguity on that part.

>>148314615
>What happened in Pure Illusion had no bearing the the setting as a whole other than showing that she can make magic rocks when she gets excited
I just explained to you that it did, they demonstrated that her glasses get broken in there and then they are still broken in the real world. Implying there are real stakes in pure illusion. If the characters get harmed they are actually harmed. That is information that has been explained to you without ever saying anything in an attempt to explain it. It is like you didn't read at all.

>>148314759
Yours may work a bit better

The animation is typical show-off webgen shit where you immediately the transitions between cuts. They are flashy but many of them are not even very well animated on a technical level. So it's basically sakutard fapfuel since identifying obvious animators is their raison d'être and they think studio pablo backgrounds make it special and different even though the characters and writing are even worse and more generic than typical yuribait.

Compare it to Yuri on Ice which despite obviously targeting women has real characters that are well established in the first episode, as well as an interesting plot that doesn't rely on pulling a million threads of tropey developments just waiting to make the stage collapse in the middle of the play.

>>148314529
I was using Madoka just as an example of a kind of writing style where everything fits together like a machine and there isn't any aesthetic crust. The first scene in that show is completely arbitrary when you first see it but by the end of the show all of the character drama going on in the scene makes perfect sense and thus has the emotional weight it was originally just coldly depicting. If the show can do something similar wherein all of the unexplained fantastical elements of the first episode: Pure Illusion, the robot with a brain, the crystal, and especially the star-crossed nature of the relationship between Papika and Cocoa, then it'll be really good. The alternative is that it just turns into this melange of elements that are explained as the plot demands and otherwise ignored, and Cocoa meeting Papika was just in service of getting the plot started rather than having an emotionally resonant lore reason.

>>148314846
>(You)

>>148314608
I'm pretty sure Anno was not being deceitful in his multiple comments about the Christian imagery in Eva. Not that I think those elements are bad but they're obviously beside the point of the show.

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>>148314608
Eyes and a mouth here as well. I would guess it implies the girls are constantly being watched.

Papika's board also very clearly resembles a feather. It flies yes, but it could be related to a yet to be revealed element of the story.

>>148314846
>praising Okada anime on its writing
Seriously. It was hammy as fuck just as expected. If that is your bag though go for it.

>>148314615
>What happened in Pure Illusion had no bearing the the setting as a whole

you actually don't know this yet or even really what the setting is because the first episode gave so little exposition. best to just wait.

>>148314921
Or maybe they're just fun visual gags.

>>148314761
also the first episode is largely an allegory of that story.

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>>148314213
>young lady-old woman
Nice one. It's not trying to achieve the same effect but is a definite reference.

>>148312272
https://youtu.be/tkFAmFkJilk?t=35

>>148313918
I guess you could say so, but what I'm trying to say is that what they did show was too basic and the background details other anons have mentioned aren't enough to make it exciting (yet).

>>148313971
This could be true but I'm skeptical. It wouldn't be the first show that has tons of "subtle hints" that lead to something disappointing in the end, or that only made it in because the animators thought they looked cool.
Or it could be even worse if all that shit is actually relevant but they reveal it in some shitty hamfisted exposition scene.

But whatever, I'll just wait for the next few episodes. I was disappointed but even I think it's too early to assume things.

>>148314309
It's the same composer. Any ED by Masumi Ito is automatically EDOTS.

>>148314996
Yeah this is pretty obvious but I don't see a lot of people talking about it in these threads unfortunately.

Isn't this an anime original?
why are people talking about this like they know what's going to happen?

Just watched the first episode. Visually, fucking incredible 10/10 stuff, would probably keep watching for that alone.

However story-wise I can kinda agree with the general sentiment of this thread? Kind of. Usually I love first episodes that leave a bit to the imagination and also tell their own story; Sora No Woto comes to mind. You definitely shouldn't expect everything to be explained to you by the end of the first episode. That's infodumping and hopefully we don't get one of those in the second episode as they often are.

I think the main complaint though is that there was a lot of clues and foreshadowing, which is great, but not a lot of hooks. Take this shot >>148313971 or the short scene with the twins. Sure, they show some likely soon to be introduced characters, but they don't really mean anything or tell us about them. Even shots like >>148314023 which is SUPER FUCKING COOL by the way are cool and foreboding but don't really give us a reason to be invested besides maybe a sense of atmosphere or a vague idea of something bad happening eventually? Most of the episode was presented in this way with strong foreshadowing and imagery; but the only real story hooks we got were during the prologue and epilogue (also the brain in the robot? and a few other tidbits). The rest of the episode was pretty much just 20 minutes of two cute girls having visually fascinating adventures in the snow together and character introductions, which is nice and all, but there definitely could've been a little more to chew on.

Which isn't to say it was bad or anything, I'm definitely gonna keep watching. This show has probably the greatest potential of this season and I'm very much expecting this episode to have a lot more to it as we get further along.

>>148314996
neat

>>148315076
I don't know the story.

>>148314376
I paused on that scene trying to figure out what it's gimmick was but didn't get it out myself.

>>148314981
Exactly. That's what makes this so interesting to me. It stimulates the imagination and prompts the audience to think about what happens on screen rather than just consume the dialogue that explains everything for you.

>>148314750
also two faces kissing
gaaaay

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>>148314677
If Cocona's green pet is a rabbit, is the robot looking like a duck a reference to the duck-rabbit illusion?

>>148315076
Anon, I don't know where you've been, but we've had this conversation multiple times now. Aside from the fact that there's really nothing to discuss about it.

>>148315009
All my wat.

>>148315076
>>148315111
I didn't actually catch it when I watched it because I know very little about fairytales; the last review here gives an analysis using the show's use of fairytales in the first ep.

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>>148315111
really wish I could post more than 1 image per post. 4ch feels so outdated compared to 8ch. Either way this is post 1/2. I'll have more written in the second.

I knew it by episode 4 or 5 everyone is going to be calling this anime DEEP and quite possibly edgy and everyone will say it has pulled a Madoka on us.

>>148315206
by "here" I meant ann: www.animenewsnetwork.com/preview-guide/2016/fall/flip-flappers/.107332

I basically only noticed it with Cocona dropping those things that Papika kept eating.

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>>148315111
>>148315236
this is 2/2.

The organization is absolutely looking for people to recruit (I don't think its just girls, judging from the white haired siblings featured in the op and in a brief shot) and it seems some of them don't make it and may either be failed candidates or possibly dead candidates. Dead would not surprise me in the least considering the imagery like the skull.

It goes without saying that it's just one episode, obviously not all the info is conveyed yet and there's a lot to learn. I'm seeing a lot of little things that are adding up to be something very, very interesting.

>>148315169
the same green rabbit appears in the opening at 2:44.

>>148315245
That is it I am going to go and download the Grimms Fairy Tale Classics anime series from bakabt right now and watch it.

>>148315358
I find it odd that some people are thinking there is a chance it is going to remain just a whimsical adventure with girls having fun, even just paying attention to the OP you can see that probably wont happen.

>>148315236
>4ch feels so outdated compared to 8ch.
Then why don't your faggotry and fuck off back there.

>>148315358
The rabbit is Cocona's pet literally. It looks like it might be a bit more intelligent than it first appears to be in the anime though unless that is just a cute animation?

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>>148315358
>the same green rabbit appears in the opening at 2:44.
You didn't see it during the episode?

>>148315419
Leave him be, he is actually making interesting posts and discussion about this show.

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>>148315403
oh yeah of course. You see two people fighting in a very heated battle in the opening. I do really appreciate the light hearted elements however, and it really captures a feeling of sweetness at times.

Also who else noticed this twin tailed girl? Is she in the show at any point so far? I don't recall her from the PVs too well.

>>148315190
Must've missed it. I see a lot of people talking about fairy tales in general but not this particular one.

>>148315460
those subtle motherfuckers

>>148315403
I think the worry is just that the show isn't going to live up to the potential of its art direction and how much room for exposition was left in the first episode. Like it degenerates into something really generic and uninteresting and doesn't capitalize on all the oblique aesthetic decisions.

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>>148315513
I have only seen her in the fan arts where she seems to be friends with the two twins.

another aesthetic decision the show had better justify thematically with lore: the glowing emblem being on Cocona's inner thigh and the transition to Pure Illusion being precipitated by imminent tentacle rape.

>>148315656
Sorry I shouldn't have said fan art, that was taken from the twitter of someone involved in making the show
>>148315513

>>148315706
what's their handle? I'd like to follow them.

>>148315686
I get what you're saying, but I want to add that the little robot guy, forgot his name, seems to be checking out her thighs probably exactly for the stone.

>>148315656
>het
Dropped. Why did you lie to me?

>>148315779
>someone involved
Sorry not someone involved literally oshiyama
https://twitter.com/binobinobi

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Another little detail.
Is the girl twin hiding a robot arm under her cast?

>>148315419
the way cripplechan is setup is superior to 4chan. The only reason it hasn't been changed yet is because hiro is afraid to do anything other than create new boards

>>148315857
Look at her magical girl form.

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I really like this show. My only complaint is that there seems to be no romance nor romantic interests for the two girls. Like, usually the boys who are their classmates or something. I don't see any romances.

>>148314772
That Pure Illusion is another world with fantastic elements rather than just a dream? Yeah that was pretty clear, and that was about all that the 'Style' communicated.

>>148315864
Besides how often it breaks and how slow it can be but lets stop talking about that here.

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>>148314721
That one has a more simple design.

>>148315899
Having a weird robo arm in magical girl form is something, but keeping it in her normal state is weirder.

>>148314947
I am hoping to see them expand on everything with the next episode my self. The killer robots in the OP looked neat.

>>148316036
Obviously because its in the background anon.

>>148316098
>>148316036
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS12p0Zqlt0

>>148315926
What are you even talking about now? The discussion moved on from style about 5 posts back. The glasses breaking is a plot element that has been deliberately shown to us without explicitly explaining it. In the same way you were talking about terrorists on TV in Regalia or whatever, they just show the terrorists and it helps build the world. If you are paying attention you notice Pure Illusion has impact on the real world.

>>148316064
Not really, at least for the setting. Cocona's grandmother's wheelchair looked pretty hi-tech from what I remember.

>>148316223
If it wasn't weird she wouldn't hide it in a cast.

>>148316151
My claim was and always has been that there is no significant substance shown through the backgrounds and visual tools, with the style being more of its own thing. Glasses breaking to show that it wasn't a dream is about as minimal as it gets.

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Why are they playing it like Yayaka is the third wheel in a lesbian relationship?

>>148316294
She's the third wheel in a lesbian relationship.

>>148316294
>childhood friend
Its like she was asking to get NTRd.

>>148308311
Yes. It is Ghibli-type of weird which I like.

>>148316291
>no significant substance shown through the backgrounds and visual tools
I already told you if you truly believe that it would be exactly the same show if you removed all the art style and paired it back to barely representative lines with voices. But that isn't the case at all. My argument isn't that the style of depiction creates the substance but that those are the same thing. Anime literally doesn't exist without style.

>Glasses breaking to show that it wasn't a dream is about as minimal as it gets.
No that has literally nothing to do with style. It is an example of showing and not telling.

This better not turn out to be some shallow 'fairy tale ripoff of the week' shit. Would it kill elevens to be original instead of 'muh references to look smart' shit?

>>148316580
What if its some shallow magical girl shit?

>>148316580
I hate that, seriously. I can't even take Pandora Hearts seriously.

>>148316485
It wouldn't be the same show, as the pretty pictures (Though definitely highly budgeted and well produced one) and girls squealing over how good they smell is the show so far. Glasses breaking is about as far as the show gets, nearly everything else has no bearing on the greater plot (If there will be one) or setting.

>>148316705
Can you stop sperging over the fucking glasses already?
Its also clear from the bruises on Papika, and the sparkly stone that PI is not some consequence free zone. We get it. Nevermind the obvious reality that getting there is potentially fatal.

>>148308311
What's wrong with her face?

>>148316580
Originality is overrated. Everything is remixed.

>>148316705
Those things are all the substance of the show the plot, the art style, the backgrounds its inseparable really this is the root of what I am getting at. They are all the substance because it wouldn't be the same story if it were different. Separating them out as if the art is some frivolous topping to some underlying plot which is what really matters is just nonsense.

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>>148316705
>it's a "anon has problem with show not tell" episode

>>148316945
I think you mean uniqueness, not originality. You can be original without inventing new things.

>>148316916
nothing

>>148316960
And? Some of the actions do show things like was established, but almost everything in Pure Illusion was pure nonsense. Everything is thrown together without context, and the entire reason that Papika chose our protagonist is that she smells good and isn't dead rather than something substantial. The little plot that the show is able to piece together is still subpar, and the so far it is entirely carried by sakuga.
>>148316851
I wasn't the one who brought up the glasses first, I was simply addressing an example that was used

>>148317163
>and the entire reason that Papika chose our protagonist is that she smells like the wish granting treasure
FTFY

She also appears to have been raised in some type of facility, so its possible she's not a normal person, but more like a bloodhound for specific girls.

Everyone the about it seems great except for the premise.
'Normal high school girl who is dragged into a new world and gains magical powers with a very strong subtext of yuri' is so overdone that it makes this otherwise wonderful and fun show seem dull.

>>148317163
>the entire reason that Papika chose our protagonist is that she smells good and isn't dead rather than something substantial
It's almost as if you weren't paying attention at all. She smelled "good" to Papika because she smelled like the treasure in Pure Illusion. That was the whole reason Cocona was selected by her and the reason she smelled that way was because she had the capacity to be a Pure Illusion candidate.
>almost everything in Pure Illusion was pure nonsense
The whole point of that segment was to establish the relationship between the girls by first having them bond over playing in the snow and then having Papika do something self less for Cocona in order to cement the friendship. Not nonsense at all some of the most "substance" critical part of the show, drove the plot forward a lot.

>>148317163
papika chose the protagonist because she was looking for candidates for the organization that captured her at the end. It's spelled out in the first minute.

>>148317339
The organisation that captured her at the end isn't the same organisation as the lab she escaped from I don't think. I think they are separate and the organisation that captured her has all the robots and the guys dressed like KKK people with the lab that Papika came from being separate. Otherwise I don't think it would have made sense for Papika to be concerned about them stealing Cocona.

>>148317339
Those cyborgs work for those KKK fuckers. As far as we know they have no connection to Dr. Salt.

>>148317339
The robots that attacked them belonged to the pointy hat faction. We don't know what their relationship to Flip Flap is yet.

>>148317314
>having Papika do something self less for Cocona in order to cement the friendship
More like repay the favor.
Papika did put coconuts in mortal danger for her own purposes.

>>148315075
>It's the same composer. Any ED by Masumi Ito is automatically EDOTS.
Shit, I was wondering why it sounded so familiar!
Actually I had the same reaction when watching Jinrui as well. Always a nice surprise to see her stuff in newer shows like this.

>>148311016
>collage
I see you missed out on getting there.

Did Masumi Ito do the ED? Some people are saying not. I can't find confirmation otherwise.

>>148317698
She's the composer but not the singer.

>>148317691
No, just fat fingers.

>>148315076
So you weren't in any of the early threads then because you are wrong.

>>148317314
She smelled like the treasure in Pure Illusion, but very little of the cause behind that was established at all. Can she just inexplicably smell it on people and know what it is like? How did she find Cocona out of the many other people in the area, does it stink that much? Cocona walking into the storage area was out of coincidence entirely. The entire "Development" in Pure Illusion (Most of the episode) was questionable as well. Papika only went forward because "It was fun" (Mcguffin was in Cocona after all), and Cocona only followed out of confusion and stopped asking questions after 3 minutes. Papika may get a free pass because she is the standard genki character, but Cocona barely acted like a human being. Instead of being a coherent at the very least, much less a substantive story, we got shots of snow banks and trees.

>>148316580
>Would it kill elevens to be original instead of 'muh references to look smart' shit?
Do you hate Jin-Roh too, anon?

It's shallow like Rolling Girls

Who wrote the script?
What are his other works?

>>148318315
>his

>>148318287
Rolling girls felt more original

>>148318399
The first episode of Rolling Girls was so incomprehensible I couldn't even finish it.

>>148317890
>How did she find Cocona out of the many other people in the area, does it stink that much?
Uh, that would be the logical conclusion.

>>148318433
what wasn't there to get? If you paid attention everything that needed explanation was explained.

>>148318287
>Another meme comparison with Rolling Girls when both shows are not even similar or share staff
kys

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This really rewards the rewatch. So many things I missed the first time through.

>>148318502
I actually thought that she had staked the school out and took a while to find out. It wasn't specific with how much time passed between Papika leaving the lab for the pipe, and actually meeting Cocona face to face.

>>148318626
Can you say specifically subtle stuff you noticed? A lot of people (me included) probably missed them also.

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>>148317890
It was fate
It was love!

>>148315236
Just do the work yourself and combine the images into a bigger one

Does Papika classify as a yuri dork? Are there any this season?

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>>148318804
There's too much to keep track of without a piratepad or something.

>>148318502
>>148317890
Papika probably got her first wiff when she ran straight past Cocona at the train crossing, which is also what prompted her to turn and lock eyes with her, and then follow Cocona to the school. Meeting at the pipe may have been a coincidence but Papika's lines suggest that it was not.

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>>148318949
Dorkier than Nene.

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>>148318804
It's not really subtle, just good little hints I didn't pick up on. Unfortunately I'm pretty inept when it comes to symbolism.

Just stuff like Byu dowsing for the fragment, and getting confused when it was led right to Cocona- originally I thought it was just confused as to why she was on her phone.

Papika seems surprised that Cocona is alive, and the girl from the start was "another bust", it also seemed like it was Papika's first time in Pure Illusion, so I think that going to Pure Illusion can kill people who aren't "attuned" to it or some such thing and reject both of the "partners."

Then there were some nice touches like the ducks floating around Bu's head when he got knocked out, and general architecture porn.

Hopefully further episodes can keep up.

>>148317890
>How did she find Cocona out of the many other people in the area, does it stink that much?
You would assume either that or that Papika has some ability to smell these things, which living in a lab wouldn't be all that out there.
> Cocona walking into the storage area was out of coincidence entirely.
It was but Papika being there wasn't, she was following Cocona, you can see that in the basketball scene where she is looking in the window.
>Papika only went forward because "It was fun
That doesn't really have much to do with the end result even if it is accepted that was the case
>Cocona only followed out of confusion and stopped asking questions after 3 minutes. Papika may get a free pass because she is the standard genki character, but Cocona barely acted like a human being.
Yeah that is true, Cocona's reaction was a bit off. That was one of the things I pointed out when I first saw the episode.
>Instead of being a coherent at the very least, much less a substantive story
It was completely coherent and substantive, there was nothing illogical about it at all and it established important relationships, so I don't see how it couldn't be. You can explain what happened plot wise all the way through fairly simply. The thing that is missing is explanation of the various elements of the world and that was done deliberately to relate the viewer to Cocona I believe.

>>148315076
It's a shame

I would think the Hansel and Gretel parallels would be the most telling part.

The question becomes: Who is actually the wicked witch? The scientists at the start seem more like the neglectful parents.

>>148319309
That lack of context is exactly what makes the entire show lacking substance, compared to pretty much anything else airing this season. It is like the Daicon animations. They are very smoothly animated bits featuring a girl flipping around on a hoverboard, and while they look cool, are bereft of anything that adds consequence or meaning. They were entirely carried by the flashy visuals. We have a bunch of pointless scenes in another world, detached from the actual questions at hand like what is going on with the lab and the killer robots.

That said if they do the second episode right, then they could easily salvage something from it. It is like Sasami-San, where the show did bob above the standard of coherency after the first episode.

>>148319502
The KKK people whose robots stole Cocona at the end?

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Best girl.

>>148319559
I don't think so, actually.

Unless we're jumping between fairy tales every episode

>>148319572
>first episode
>already lost

>>148319543
>It is like the Daicon animations
what an inane and stupid comparison

>>148317890
>Cocona barely acted like a human being
Somehow I thought she was like that because PI works like a dream. You might notice her personality was completely different inside of it, so it might as well be like an usual dream where shit happens and you're like "This is fine".
Just notice how she suddenly started liking Papika a lot, not because of any logical reason, but just because she was there with her. You might relate this any random dream in which you notice you're familiar with even the strangest things you would never consider being friends with.
And then, when she woke up, she told a straight "no" to Papika because she came back to her full senses.

While watching the episode, I was theorizing they were inside Cocona's mind. With how everything was blank and bland, but still had its own touch of sweetness. Still, with the direction the show is taking, it might end up being just a random fantastical world.

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>>148319211
Here's the high angle of that same scene. All the details are fairly consistant, like the slanted glass forming a sunroom at the bottom left of your image. So the steel shed at the topleft of your image would be just out of frame at the bottom of this one.

Note that all of the girls in this image are paired up except miss foreveralone looking out over the edge.

>>148319572
>>148319601
Also, she's a slut that wants to get gang banged at an all boys school.

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>>148319669
I wonder i the painting girl will show up later. She was also conspicuously alone. Not in the cast list though, so I doubt it.

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All this symbolism talk is pretty interesting, but I wonder if they can pork when Papika is the aggresive one but chances are she's so dumb she doesn't know what a vagoo is.

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>>148319669

>except miss foreveralone looking out over the edge.

>>148319543
>ompared to pretty much anything else airing this season
Did you watch Occultic;Nine yet? Now that is difficult to follow.
>That lack of context is exactly what makes the entire show lacking substance
Explain exactly what you mean by substance? I think establishing characters, character relationships and the setting is very much substance. The lack of a full explanation for everything you see immediately doesn't negate that.
>It is like the Daicon animations. They are very smoothly animated bits featuring a girl flipping around on a hoverboard, and while they look cool, are bereft of anything that adds consequence or meaning. They were entirely carried by the flashy visuals.
You seem obsessed with the fact that there was some good animation as if that is a bad thing? There definitely was consequence to it though it established the relationship between the main characters and the fact that things occur in pure illusion have impact on the real world.
>We have a bunch of pointless scenes in another world
They aren't pointless, I have explained to you what they achieved multiple times in terms of both developing the character relationships and establishing the setting.

>>148319735
OH SHIT yes she is.

>>148319735
She is on the character page, in the character chart, and in the PV talking to Cocona.

>>148319735
She will show up later, she is in the PV looking at the painting in the corridor at the school with Cocona.

>>148319740
>what a vagoo is.
You mean a flip flap?

>>148319735
That's Cocona's Senpai. Name is Senpai.

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>>148319543
It was Girl Meets Girl: the episode. And it didn't lack anything.

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>>148311374
>>148319735
>senpai

>>148311374
>>148319735
thats the senpai

>>148319849
What's her name though

>>148319849
That painting is from her dream isn't it?

The first episode was bretty good. I didn't like the SSJ crap though.

>>148319863
Pai Sen

>>148319863
Senpai

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>>148319789
>>148319803
>>148319824
>>148319849
>>148319852
Welp.

>>148319863
Senpai.

Seriously, the other characters in that chart that we have only seen briefly were given names. But senpai is senpai.

>>148319923
>being on a first name basis with your senpai
Its like you don't even want to be noticed.

>>148319923
That blue haired girl in the OP and in this
>>148315656
Is the only one we haven't actually seen in the first episode and isn't on the chart so I am guessing she might be an important character related to some mystery we shouldn't know about yet.

>>148319826
It lacked purpose. The first episode was pretty much a string of random scenes, with some that were animated in a fun way.
It lacked originality. Normal girl goes to a different world, unlocks a secret magical power and there's yuri, has been done so many times that its become dull. With all creativity they've put into this, you'd think they'd come up with a better plot.

>>148319911
whoops

>>148320042
>It lacked purpose
No, it was entirely about Cocona and Papika.
>its become dull
No. Those stories will never become dull.

>>148320042
>The first episode was pretty much a string of random scenes
What?

>>148320042
I disagree. Every scene was important to the story that the episode was telling.

Also, please list all these other shows with yuri in alternate worlds. Apparently I've been missing out all these years.

This thread reminds me of why I love Flip Flappers. It's more interested in evoking mood and a sense of wonder rather than adhering to some sense of narrative structure and telling a story. It's even more unique and risk taking than Space Dandy if it can keep that up.

I just hope there's more fun antics. I liked the first episode because it didn't feel like an urgent plot point, except at the end. To compare it to another series /a/ loves to hate, I hope the organization that caught the two at the end is as "serious" as Nudist Beach from KLK; dopey as fuck, full of jobbers, and only threatening in morals. This could be one hell of a fun series if it stays away from being too serious, considering the colors and animation style.

>>148320203
>No. Those stories will never become dull.
they just did

>>148320042
>The first episode was pretty much a string of random scenes
It didn't seem random to me, the plot progressed in an easy to follow logical way. The motivations aren't entirely clear of all the characters yet though that much is true.

>>148320256
It's too self-indulgent, though. I wonder how it will sell. Probably badly.

>>148320283
Thanks m8 I didn't know.

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>>148320042
Pretending to be above liking anything doesn't make you cool; desperately arguing oversimplifications and untruths to say those things are bad makes you a loser.

Who are you trying to convince that the first episode of an anime was simply not up to par, us or yourself?

>>148320317
remember to RSS

>>148319669
>>148319211
Actually on closer inspection, these two images are either of completely different sections of the building or there is very little consistency with the detailing.

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YO WHAT THE FUCK
ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED?

>>148320261
It's already pretty morbid so far.

>>148320366
Iluminati vs Ku Klux Klan confirmed

>>148320366
>[GJM-DDY]
How are the meme subs so far?

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>>148319572
Oh shit, she's back!

>people writing huge, paragraph long posts criticizing it when only 1 episode is out

Hold in your autism until episode 3 please. Great writers like Dostoevsky told critics "Read part 1 of my book (first 100 pages, or 1/6th of the book". You've just seen 23 minutes, calm down, Anime Experts.

>>148320349
Listen here kid the entire thing was a nonsensical excuse for yuri and animation, there was no discernible plot at all and nothing happened that has any consequence for sure. There is no explanation of anything at all because it doesn't explain absolutely anything. There is no progression of the plot at all because it is just an excuse for animation.

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ONE MAN CANNOT POSSIBLY TAKE SO MANY SCREEN SHOTS IN A SINGLE EPISODE

>>148320484
Do you think she can see her pantsu?

Why does Papika's outfit have so many holes?

>>148320476
>kid
Oh boy.

>>148320306
Art over commerce. I'd be perfectly fine with the show just being about exploring different worlds with the story remaining secondary but whatever.

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>>148320476
>this entire post
Is this post-irony?

>>148320417
Are these meme subs? Not familiar with the group.

Either way, they seem normal. Not seeing any real differences from HS.

>>148320526
That was supposed to be the indication that I was mocking the guy.

>>148320523
She can sure smell them.

>>148320566
Actually, it was the indication that you were asking to be mocked.

>>148320524
To put more things into them.

>>148320566
But instead it's an indication of your butt hurt

>>148320255
Of the top of my head theres YKA, Kutsukiboshi, and if you consider the pair in Simoun to have gone to some alternate world since who the fuck knows where they ended up.

Beyond that the idea of a sort of closed space that two girls share privately is a pretty common yuri trope.

>>148320605
Same thing really.

>>148320476
>there was no discernible plot at all and nothing happened that has any consequence for sure. There is no explanation of anything at all because it doesn't explain absolutely anything. There is no progression of the plot at all because it is just an excuse for animation.
I can say the same about every anime ever. You don't make any sense.

>>148320702
>You don't make any sense.
That was the point. I was stating this guys >>148320042 arguments in a ridiculous way on purpose.

>>148320827
cute

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>>148320788
You fooled me.

>>148320788
Honestly anon people have been posting that shit unironically so it's impossible to tell whether or not you're serious.

>>148320897
>flap flap fags can't the difference between shitposts and not shitposts
And you wonder why these threads are shit.

>>148320965
this thread's been pretty great.

How long until they flip each other's flaps?

>>148321314
But what does that mean

>>148321342
Anime is saved.

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Which flapper would you flip?

>>148321477
I need to know what it means before I can decide that

>>148321508
Which flip would you flap?

>>148321558
Listen
You need to elaborate this concept for me

>>148321477
cocona and Papika

>>148321572
What part of flip flap don't you understand?

Either intense whining or grandiose praise in this thread. Same old flip-flopping fops flapping off as they fap to Flip Flappers.

>>148321637
The whole thing

>>148321656
Its not that complicated anon. There are flip flappers, and they do flip flapping.

>>148320621
See you've got nothing. The alternate worlds in Kutsukiboshi was only shown at the end and had no relevance to the plot. Simoun was timetravel shenanigans and again not the focus of the series so it only spent a few minutes in those other lands. The first few eps of YKA never explored alternate realities and besides which that series was not everyone's cup of tea.

And no, closed space is not particularly common in yuri. The only example I can think of is clamp's Miyuki-chan shorts and that's ancient, wierd, and effing Clamp.