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HOLY FUCKING SHIT IT'S HAPPENING
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>>148307717
That hug was adorable. BlackxZamachan otp.
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>>148307717
Gowasu did nothing wrong
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>>148307717
Still waiting
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>>148307717
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As a trunksfag, that was beautiful
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xth for being ignorant fuck
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>Goku gets angry as hell
>iconic quote
>powers up
>still gets his ass kicked

Sucks.
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>Toriyama is a hack and now ripping off the Broly movie
WOOOW
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So Zamasu killed Goku's family... except Gohan?
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>It's a Gohan and SSJ3 were a mistake episode.
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>>148307775
best moment up until that transformatiom
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>>148307717
So it looks like his new form is to become Broly.

Also Goku better fucking kiss Chi Chi when all this shit is done, it was great seeing him legit angry again after hearing what happened to his family.
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>FALSE SSB

trunks is a real nigga
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>>148307794
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>>148307760
godtube channel when
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Trunks is the true Super Saiyan God?
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>>148307775
That was probably the most hilarious part of the episode.
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Ssj2 super trunks holy fuck.
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>>148307807
Its not like he knows the man's family tree.
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Gokuisagarystufags BTFO
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>>148307807
Future Gohan has been de
wait a second
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>>148307775
>it's Jeice all over again
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>>148307775
Goku doesn't care about Chi Chi and Goten fags
BTFO
That rage powerup
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Is this Goten's first appearance in weeks?
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Vegeta the only one not to get smashed
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>>148307827
FUCK THIS

WHERE'S OUR BOY GOHAN
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>>148307807
>>148307854

Bet Gohan regrets not training now
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>>148307717
What is going to happen next episode ?

No way Trunks can take on Black and Zamasu alone
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What did they mean by this?
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>>148307818
>Also Goku better fucking kiss Chi Chi when all this shit is done, it was great seeing him legit angry again after hearing what happened to his family.

Agreed.
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This is it. There's absolutely no way this series can get any gayer.
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>>148307861
Flying his mother to Bulma's place. My boy Gohan is getting into the capsule
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What the FUCK? So why didn't Goten go Super Saiyan and fight Black?
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Did Trunks just went Legendary SSJ?

also,
why the heck aren't Goku and Vegeta fusing already?
their god forms are useless at this point.
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>>148307859
poor gotenfags

if there's such a thing
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>>148307876
The spoilers are out just in case you were curious
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>>148307859
and what a way to give him screentime

getting killed by his "dad"
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>>148307890
They will fuse as well.
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>>148307827
>>148307794
They did this in the Cell Saga
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Wow.

They might just delete Gohan at this point.
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>>148307886
Pure Love. Goku and Chichi's love is nothing but a house of straw before that fortress.
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>>148307890
that's just ego. like patting yourself on the back.
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>>148307807
I have the strangest feeling Gohan was banging Videl at the moment & Black either kicked the door down or Gohan came home to see his family dead.
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>Gohan is going to appear in the next episode
jesus fuck just let him have his peaceful nice life and don't bring him into this shit
reeeeeeee
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>>148307859
So what happened here?
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>>148307717
did they specify which past "timeline" that Black visited? (past Zamasu, Goten/Chichi etc)
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I like how he has SSB ki in that form

SSB is such a failure of a form.
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>It's a Goku dies episode
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>The gay hug
>Goku getting mad
>Trunks getting fucking furious


christ
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>>148307952
Black slaughtered chichi and goten.
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Poor Goku he had a justified rage power up
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>>148307558

I think Trunks's new form is what happens when you're strong enough to go Super Saiyan Blue, but your transformation is triggered by anger instead of a calm mind like Vegeta and Goku. He'll get a few good hits on them, then get thrown into the dirt. Pretty good scene though.
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Everyone thought vegeta gonna be the one to job twice.
Wrong bitches its goku kekekekek.
Also trunks playing with the big boys haha.
Kid trunks getting pussy and goten being left studying.
Not even gonna start about gohan.
Where were you when the son family were made irrelevant.
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>>148307949
He's getting into the capsule!
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>>148307923
Link to spoilers please anon ?
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>>148307932
Most of Super is a rehash of old arcs anyway.
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Is Trunks the legendary ssjg of his world?
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Wait, so who will learn the Mafuba if Goku is beaten up right now?
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>>148307890
>he wouldn't have sex with himself
pleb
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my boy trunks
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>>148307912
to his child brain that's his father coming at him in seconds
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>>148307964
Goku didn't die, he was watching Trunks transforming
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>>148307827
This guy slaps your girl's ass, wat do?
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>>148307995
Goku has a full bag of Senzus.
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>>148307949
>Get back in the cooker you are not ready yet.jpg
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>>148307949
>>148307983
Faggots will be forever assblasted at my boy Gohan
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I wish Goku would want to fuse with Vegeta and vice versa after knowing what happened to their family. It would be kinda fun to see Vegetto shenanigans while waiting for super dragon balls to undo the fusion. Oh well.
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>>148307982
Episode 63 is when vegeta will show his son what true strength is like
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>>148307985
https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/784316974671142913
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>>148308022
Complement his good taste
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>>148307982
Not sure if its toei or akira bit there is way too much vegeta pandering going on.
Did the old man forgot who the main character of the show is?
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>>148307974
But which timeline?
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>>148307995
senzu beans
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>>148308032
Why is he not eating them?
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Imagine watching the Cell saga and being told Gohan would be by far the weakest of the 4 main saiyans within a few years.
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>>148307982
Vegeta found out once more that Goku is stronger than him when he tries this episode Vegetafag
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>>148307860
Vegeta the only one to keep smashing something on a daily basis.
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>>148307983
Please no
I just want him to have nice peaceful life
it's the only thing he wanted
let him have it

>>148308037
kek
10/10

>>148308044
what
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>>148308077
>>148308032
you're telling me Goku and co will eat senzu beans, SOMEHOW escape from Black and Zamasu without their time machine being fucked up again?
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>tfw SSJ2.5 Blue Trunks
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>>148308059
so fusionfags are getting their wish after all
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>>148307982
Goku's rage does jack shit.
And fucking trunks bitchass gets legendary ssj.
Fuck you toryiama you hack.
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>>148307949
>getting ricecucked
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>>148307827
Why is he so perfect?
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>>148308074
I think Trunks is ready to replace Vegeta on this two man team. That way it's a fair 2 v 2 fight, irrelevant characters can be ignored. Maybe Goku and Trunks will fuse?
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>Black continues to get random power ups to stay strong
Getting real tired of this
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>>148308059
Thanks anon
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>>148307717
I WANT BLACK-SAMA TO KILL ME
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What do you think Mai's reaction was to seeing her man become Broly?
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>>148307859
Best part on the whole episode, >>148307775
and pic related almost got my attention
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"Leave Black to me"
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>Black and Zamasu this episode

Could they get any gayer?
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WHEN YOU TALK SHIT ABOUT A NIGGAS GIRL AND HE LOOKIN AT YOU LIKE
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This shit is becoming soooo repetitive.
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>>148307982
How can they job twice when they already lost to Black and Zamasu dumbass?
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What a shitty arc both Black and Trunks keep getting random powerups for no good reason
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>>148307952

After switching bodies with Goku, Zamasu (Black) murdered him as Chi-Chi and Goten witnessed Goku's death.

However, it doesn't end there, as Zamasu turns to Chi-Chi and Goten who are running away from him and then kills them both while he's in Goku's body.
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>>148308182
He could indeed undoubtedly beat beat him, honestly.
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>>148307982
I was jerking off to black and zamasu smugness. Cant wait for the yaoi doushinji once this is over.
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>>148308188
Technically it's masturbation.
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>>148308176
she's gonna get a big dicking as soon as this is over
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>>148308195
you can always stop watching
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>just remember tonight is the night
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>>148308164
new fag detected
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>>148308182
Probably only Black, what about Zamasu? He's inmortal.
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>>148308176
>"O-oh shit I-I'm fucked!"
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>>148308176
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>Goku cares about Goten
well color me surprised
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>>148308182
Hit would've raped Black before he got this strong tbqh
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>>148308213
I want to see it purely because they both improve against powerful oppenents
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Give me a fucking (You) RIGHT now if you want to be BLACKED by this celestial being.
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>>148308164
How stupid are you?
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>Final Judgement: The Supreme God's Ultimate Power

I bet Zeno shows up.
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Is SSB the worst transformation in the entire series?
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WHY did Black tell Goku what he did to his family? Why did he press the Chichi button?
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link to the episode?
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>>148307890
Zamasu is a narccisist confirmed
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>>148308164
Retard pls
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>>148308262
Of course he cares about them. He just thinks of friends and family equally.
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Powers up in Super are so weak man, Goku should have blow away everyone at this level just by powering up.

I hope they don't bring back Vegito or Gogeta, they're going to ruin them.
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Toei must really hate Goku
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>>148308248

Aren't they both immortal?
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>>148308164
I remember reading a promo with Toei saying Goku Black is the name of despair. I guess they are going with the powerup after powerup route because they want to make him embody despair. Fighting against Goku Black is like getting close to your dreams just to see them crumbling a second before you can reach them.
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>>148307982
Dbs makes no fucking sense.
What were they thinking going back to the future with no prep time?
Mah zenkai boost? That shit stopped working since the namek arc.
And can someone explain to me wtf trunks problem is? You gonna tell me he legendary now? Why didnt goku go kaioken? Why is everyone so fucking weak.
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>>148308211
Then where was Gohan and the others?
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>>148308275
That would really just ruin everything.
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>>148308314
During this instance, Black was only as strong as SSJ2, right?
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Literally everyone is getting BLACKED!
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>>148308314
That's a stupid reason you faggot
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>>148308328
Didn't Black told him to Zamasu he didn't need being inmortal because of his SSR in the wooden house?
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>>148308291
Black gets stronger as he fights with Goku.
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>>148308314
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>>148308328
Black is not immortal.
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>>148308342
Who the fuck is Gohan?
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>>148308164

Black's base form was equal to Goku's SSJ2 way back at the start of the arc. He was always leagues above everyone.
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>>148308362
a little stronger than ssj3
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>>148308335
ssb kaioken doesn't seem to be canon

trunks tapped into the god ki
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>>148308272
Can it be this Celestial Being instead?
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>>148308328
Only Zamasu, Black didn't want to.
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>>148308335
>Mah zenkai boost? That shit stopped working since the namek arc.
How do you think Trunks is keeping up?
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>>148308248
Well yeah, they'd need to figure something else out then, but Hit could probably use his time skip to avoid Zamasu getting in the way

>>148308328
No, Black is just highly durable, and in this episode for example he hid behind Zamasu to take a blast
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>>148308368
Too bad retard. Pay attention next time.
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I'm sure Zamasu is a masochist by now.

He keeps blocking shit with his own body.
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>>148308335
Because it is a risky move that can fuck his Ki forever. Goku is trying to avoid using it ever since that whole thing with the Ki disease.
Besides, tell me: what good it would do against a foe that gets stronger the more you fight with him and another foe that is immortal? Kaioken is worthless here.
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Can anyone explain the Black Goku/Zamasu timeline story? A bit confused here guys.
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>>148308314
>he wants to be perfect
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>>148308115

That is awesome.
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>>148308378
It's ridiculous.
First Form Frieza was already SSJ3 level while his Final Form was Super Saiyan God (the red one) level.
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So will the whole "Goku doesn't care about his family" meme end now? The last time I remember Goku this mad was with Frieza.
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did they ever mention which timeline they snagged Gou's body from? It seems like they just brushed it off as merely travelling with a TimeRing instead of giving us details...
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>>148308314
>>148308372
So why does Zamazu in Goku;s body get so much faster stronger than Goku in his own body?
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>>148308424
Pure fanservice.
Thats also the name of this arc.
Why is trunks the only one benefitting from zenkai? Why was goku rage not enough to do shit?
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>>148307827
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>>148308332

So you're saying hes Ywach?
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>>148308479
Masochism.
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this shit is dragging on
>probably another month of nothing really happening
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It would have been a lot better if Black was this powerful since the beginning these power ups are trash
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>>148308342
>Then where was Gohan and the others?
Zamasu went to Earth right after switching bodies and killed Goku in less than a minute. The only ones around were Chichi and Goten, who were killed right afterwards. Then he probably left Earth.
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>>148308182
A S S A S S I N T E C H N I Q U E S
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>>148308378
How was Black not scared to see Beerus/Whis when they could end him?

Why did he even stay to fight when he could have just died
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>>148308115
MCU Thor?
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>>148308479
Because Zamasu was already a fighting prodigy in his original body.
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>>148308335
Goku uses Kaioken

Black learns Kaioken.
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>>148308479
Saiyans get a power boost when they get beaten to death.
Black is already dead, so every punch activates it.
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>>148308450
What happened to Goten and Chichi is why Gohan should have kept up his strength.
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>>148308478
they created a new timeline by arriving going back in time before the time when trunks went back in time
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>>148308478
I guess Trunks went back in time to get help and fucked up time and space.
Again.
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>tfw you can make Bido in Xenoverse 2

based
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>>148308182
Would Black eventually learn the time skip too?
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>>148308494
Hybrids>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Full bloods
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>>148308478
From what I gathered it was some weird present timeline where Goku and Zamasu did the spar, then they just left him to kill Gowasu.
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>>148308059
shit that means the mafuba fails
fusion incoming
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>>148308424
Zenkai boost work when you're near death, not after a few punches in the stomach
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>>148307827
TRUNKS BEST BOY

Shame he is still gonna lose though.
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>>148308494
Vegeta didn't get demolished in 5 seconds. Goku did better. Zenkai is still in place.
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>>148308466
That was before the training for the tournament, that's why current Goku's SSJ2 is different on power.
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Toei are vegetafags lads.
Get your laser out.
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>>148308115
>>148308461
I think it's meant to be Mo Farrah and Usain Bolt
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I missed it, did Trunks go full Brolly?
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>>148308545
>Black is already dead, so every punch activates it.
you're fucking dumb mate.
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>>148308568
>shit that means the mafuba fails
Wow what a surprise.
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>>148308335
>Why didnt goku go kaioken?
If he does he will never be able to fight again according to King Kai. Forever cripple.
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>>148308450
Remember when Beerus and Whis let Zamasu kill Gowasu for proof that he was a dick? As soon as that Zamasu put the time ring on, he was immune to any changes in the timeline; including Beerus killing his past self.
So now there's another future sprouting from that event where Zamasu made the wishes to take Goku's body etc, then he travelled to Trunks' time and met the Zamasu there and he's the one that used the balls to become immortal.
Now neither of them will be virgins.
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>>148308576
shouldn't vegeta get a zenkai boost for when he got stabbed
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>>148308621
But it makes perfect sense.
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>>148308503
Basically? Yeah. He even has time powers with the time ring.
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>>148308587
No they didn't do better, you're just lying to yourself.Vegeta just didn't get surprised by Black's sword.
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>>148308450
Black Goku is main timeline's Zamasu, after getting the Time Ring. The other Zamasu is Zamasu from Trunks's timeline.
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>>148308576
Black is always near death. He's in a corpse.
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>>148308317

They've gotten so carried away with the power creep that they can't help but make it inconsistent

Goku was ~70% of Beerus in the BoG movie, and then he and Vegeta trained with Whis, and then they supposedly trained together in the time chamber for three years, but Beerus can still one shot everyone.

It's just blatant fan service with no effort at this point. Not that it was that much different in the past, but at least the power creep maintained consistency from arc to arc.
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>>148308554
Elf ears on humans confirmed?
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>>148308523
How did NOBODY sense this ki?
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>>148308272
KILL ME BLACK-SAMA
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>>148308555
Has he really learnt any techniques that don't belong to Goku? I kinda doubt he'd learn it but who knows
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>>148308576
Trunks was nearly dead when he first arrived in the present, then he got beat up again with Goku and Vegeta.
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>>148307827
Bulma cheated with broly way back way back.
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>>148308544
Black will get ki disease you retard so it would a great idea for Goku to use it
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>>148308620
Pretty much. He even had that heavy ass walk as if he suddenly weighed a ton.
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>>148308262
I swear to god if he is forced to fight again I will kick my kid out of the basement

>>148308539
yes

>>148308616
it is but let me enjoy my little things anon
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>>148308667
>Black is always near death. He's in a corpse.
Today's chapter literally debunks this theory, shut the fuck up.
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>>148308629
>including Beerus killing his past self
Given how time travel in Dragon Ball works, killing past versions of people don't cnange anything.
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>>148308272
(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)(you)
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>>148308686
Wtf, no.He was just exhausted
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>>148308659
But wasn't main timeline Zamasu Hakai'd by Beerus?
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>>148308629
>Remember when Beerus and Whis let Zamasu kill Gowasu for proof that he was a dick? As soon as that Zamasu put the time ring on, he was immune to any changes in the timeline; including Beerus killing his past self.

Wait a moment, I thought Whis's ability to reverse time didn't leave alternate timelines.
Besides, even if Zamasu did gain immunity to it with the Time Ring sholdn't he still be fucked? It is not like Whis and Beerus would cease of existing, they would still be watching.
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>>148308503
More like the Anti-Spiral, but early on in this arc I noticed some similarities between Black and Yhwach and thought that was funny.
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>>148308757
The time ring protects Black from anything that happens in the past. Pretty huge oversight on Beerus/Whis part.
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>>148308667
Didn't Zamasu take over his body when goku was still alive? So. It's no corpse
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>for their last wish, Zamasu+Black wish for the Super DBs to be destroyed such that they can never be restored.

Is this for all timelines?
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>>148308262
I think it was more the way they were killed and how powerless he was to stop it being what set Goku off.
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Will next arc include gohan, pan etc.?
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>>148308335
>What were they thinking going back to the future with no prep time?
They thought the only obstacle they had left in the future was Black and to them 3 v 1 was pretty much an auto win
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I've got 2 questions :
- is the episode subbed already?
- why do I keep watching this shit (If I wasn't a retarded DB fan because I grew with it I would've dropped this shit a long time ago) ?
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>>148308817
Sure as background characters.
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>>148308450

Okay, so there was a timeline where everything in Super happens, but Trunks does not re-appear in the past. In this timeline, Goku still fights Zamasu, and beats him. Zamasu then takes Goku's body via Super Dragon Balls, and kills him, along with his family, after killing Gowasu and stealing the time ring.

GokuZamasu then goes to a future timeline where Beerus doesn't exist. This is Trunks' timeline, since the Supreme Kai died while fighting Dabura and Babidi, and the Supreme Kai and God of Destruction are linked.

GokuZamasu then teams up with Trunks' timeline's Zamasu, to wish for Future Zamasu's immortality using the Super Dragon Balls. They then destroy them so no one else can use them. They also begin killing all of the other Kai's in every universe. They terrorize Future Trunks' Earth, so Trunks goes back in time again to get help from Goku and Vegeta.

This creates a new timeline where now that Goku knows about Zamasu's involvement in the future, Beerus and Whis get involved, and obtain proof that Zamasu intends to kill Gowasu. This Zamasu is then destroyed by Beerus, but it doesn't affect the GokuZamasu in the future because the Time Ring protects him.
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>>148308757
Weren't the Androids turned into good guys?
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>Oh, OK: for their last wish, Zamasu+Black wish for the Super DBs to be destroyed such that they can never be restored.
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I really want to enjoy super, but holy shit the animation is piss poor still.


Why can't they just do a decent job?
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>>148308823
it literally just aired
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Where's than anon that claims Gohan fans can't be happy for him and his peaceful life?

That peaceful life made him lose his fucking family. And most likely the rest of the Earthlings
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>>148308823
No
Because it's fun and while it's not animated particularly well due to current toei it's still better than the last follow up.
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>>148308447
but that doesn't make it less stupid
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>>148308847
Come here fellow fusionfag
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>>148308823
This episode was on live, like couple minutes ago.

Wait until tomorrow for subtitles.
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>Even after 17 years Gowasu couldn't reform Zamasu

What a loser.
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>>148308668
>but Beerus can still one shot everyone
Only delusional Beerusfags believe this. He stopped being relevant during the Tournament Arc, Hit and SSB Kaioken surpassed him.
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>>148308757
Technically he isn't "main timeline Zamasu". He's from a present timeline, rather than Trunks' future, but one where he killed Gowasu, and got the time ring.
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>>148308849
savage
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>>148308885
See >>148308447
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>>148308823
because it's entertaining

nostalgia fags expect more than they should from a children's cartoon
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>>148308820
They already fought black and jobbed hard. Also in the first fight zamasu was there. Instead of training they went in full retard.
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>>148308808
don't think so unless they specify that
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>>148308808
can't imagine so

that means that there's a chance that trunks+mai go back to the past after everything's done unless zeno-chan fixes everything because there's absolutely nothing in his timeline
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I guess the only real question is where the fuck are Beerus and Whis in the Future? Useless lot. It takes Gods from another timeline to bring their shit in order.
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>>148308847
It's going to be Gogeta.
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>>148308449
Everything you said is bullshit and Manga retcons the SSB Kaioken, which is a stupid fucking concept anyway.

Behold, other things that never happened, because if they did they would make power-ups and transformations even more irrelevant:

>SSJ1 Kaioken
>SSJ2 Kaioken
>SSJ3 Kaioken
>Vegito Kaioken
>Gogeta Kaioken

Think about it. Not too much though, I know thinking is difficult for you hence you eating whatever you are fed on screen by an anime.
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>>148308766
It's better not to think too much about it. Goku only fought Zamasu because of Black, but Black only exists because Goku fought Zamasu... it doesn't really make sense.
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>>148308905
He almost did
Black undid all that work in an instant
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>>148308849
I was hoping for a king piccolo style dragon killing.
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>>148308844
nice, thanks for bringing to my attention the fact that Trunks time travelling at the beginning of the arc splintered the timeline as always.
It's something I forgot to consider when discussing timelines.
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>>148308847
There's going to be an all universe tournament, though. And something bad will certainly happen there, I want them to save Vegetto for that. Then we can have 12 Universe spirit bomb, too.
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>yfw Chi Chi and Goten got BLACKED
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>>148308622
so it was nostalgiafanservice
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>>148308785
But when exactly did Zamasu put the Time Ring?
Whis reversed time exactly after he killed Gowasu, he didn't have enough time to put the time ring.
Besides, Whis said his Time Reveral method doesn't leave alternate timelines.
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>>148308959
>I guess the only real question is where the fuck are Beerus and Whis in the Future?
Beerus is dead. Whis fucked off into bolivian with Future Goku and King Kai.
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>>148307717
why is zamasu such a slut
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>>148308838
Gohan and Goten being useless kind of annoys me.
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>>148308905
Did you not see Zamasu's hesitation before joining Black?

Gowasu almost succeed.
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>>148308998
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>>148308332
Wasn't that Freeza's thing? Every time the team would start feeling like they could beat Freeza he just transformed again and it all went back to square 1
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>>148308959
Future Beerus is dead. Whis is probably on vacation or something.
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>Zam/Black fusion yet to happen
>Probably another power up to Goku and Co yet to happen
>Yet another power up for Zam/Black fusion will be likely to combat it
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do i have to be some "specific"-fag? how about i'm "not a fag"-fag? being a fag is pain, you only live in hope. well i guess trunks fans are lucky but it doesn't last forever.
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>>148308844
The timelinewher goku is alive without trunks reappiring is timeline 4 .
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>>148308335
A lot of stuff doesn't make sense dude. Better just think this as a fanservice and that's it.

Vegeta pointed out that they should have a plan yet they went there anyway. Vegeta and Goku trained a long time with Whis and they trained 3 years in hyperbolic time chamber yet Black is stronger than them with little effort. There are a lot of things to complain dude but it's still alright.
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>>148308926
Dora is a children cartoon. People should stop mixing oranges and sushi.
Also that's not about having expectations that are too high. There's plenty of "children cartoon" that are objectively 10 times better than this every month even in the same category.
Even without comparing to modern things, just compare to DB which was truly inventive.
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>>148309027
>>148309056
>future beerus is dead

The fuck? What did I miss?
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>>148308998
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>>148309041
Yeah he hesitated for like 8 seconds. Way to go.
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>>148308853
Capitalism anon. More quality doesn't necessarily result in more views/profit, at least not enough to make the extra effort (read: expenses and trouble) worth it
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>>148308968
>Everything you said is bullshit and Manga retcons the SSB Kaioken
Them Manga canon is a completely different canon you retard. Why do you think Hit is super weak in it?
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>>148308968
>Manga retcons
The manga is non canon though.
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>>148308968
>Manga retcons the SSB Kaioken, which is a stupid fucking concept anyway.
No, the DBS anime and manga have separate continuities
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>>148308998

GOHAN WHY DIDN'T YOU PROTECT THEM
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>>148309099
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>>148309099
Supreme Kai died

Beerus is linked to the lives of the Supreme Kais

When there are no Supreme Kai there is no God Of Destruction
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>>148308968
(You).
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>>148308998
>The timeline where the last thing Goten and Chi-Chi saw was Goku murdering them will always exist
Atleast the Vegeta in that universe probably jobbed. I hope they killed that timeline's Beerus, too.
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>>148309071
Nigga this is french I cant read that shit.
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Anyone made a webm of Black's sexy new ki sword attack?
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>>148309099
Supreme Kai died against Babidi in the manga, so Beerus died from that, it's possible this happened in the anime too but I don't know if it's been mentioned
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>>148306671
>Yandere Zamasu doujins FUCKING WHEN?

PLEASE
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>>148308968
Mangafags are particulary obnoxious lately.
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>>148309008
>Whis reversed time exactly after he killed Gowasu, he didn't have enough time to put the time ring.
Remember this is an alternate timeline.
So in other words in the first timeline where Zamasu became Black he put on the time ring before Beerus destroyed Zamasu.
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>>148309153
God the anime sucks.
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>>148309065
>well i guess trunks fans are lucky but it doesn't last forever.
Considering Toei still can't even draw his hair right and make it look like a literal bunch of bananas, no we're not that lucky.
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>>148308730
It would've worked thanks to Beerus's ability, but time ring immunity.
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>>148308921
Can you read? crying "t-too bad" like it's my fault the show is shit won't make the show less shit.
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>>148308205
>getting random powerups for no good reason
welcome to dragon ball
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>>148308059
>DBS ep.64: "Praise and adore him! The explosive birth of merged Zamasu!"

Jesus Christ, how horrifying. There is no way that Goku and Vegeta aren't going to fuse anymore.

The question remains however, if Zamasu fuses... does that mean he loses his immortality? Because fuck, if he doesn't, they will still have to find some way to beat him, like trying the mafuba again, or something.
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I LOVE BEERUSSAMA!
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>>148309074
Hope the manga explains this shit.
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someone post zamas rape face
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>>148309146
Anon, it was all sudden. What Black did to them as he appeared was ruthless.

Impossible for Gohan to be there without knowing and I wonder what is happening in Black's timeline.
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Trunks' transformation felt like the most oldschool tranformation or power-up we got in a long time.
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What's with this obsession with Mafuba? It didn't work on Piccolo, it's not going to work on Blackmasu
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>>148309153
>>148309167

Right. Forgot about that. Makes you wonder if Zeno ever gets a heads up if his Gods drop dead. In which case, I'd be surprised he wouldn't just get mad and destroy that Universe immediately.
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>>148308998
I've been wanting to see Chi Chi BTFO'd for the longest time, but damn this was depressing. Getting sliced to death by some guy who stole your husband's body. Feel bad for Goten too, kid was sidelined the entire arc only to reappear to get murdered.
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>>148309099
>The fuck? What did I miss?

In the manga, it was stated that Goku Black went to Trunks' timeline because Kaioshin had died there against Dabura (and so Beerus was dead). And then he went on to kill all the other gods

In the anime, they said nothing about that - it was only mentioned this episode that Goku Black killed all gods.
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>>148309233
I think after they defeat him Goku reveals he had that Zeno button and Vegeta wants to kill him for not having used it right away.
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>>148309118
>Why do you think Hit is super weak in it?
He's not weak, he was simply surprised and didn't have random power hacks to getting stronger on a whim. (which makes more sense)
The conclusion was stil the same, he completely dodged the powerful Kamehameha and couldn't perform at full power without executing his Assasination techniques.
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Goku punching Zamasu and Trunk's powerup made this episode a 10/10
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>>148309272
padding this shitty arc when it's just going to end with zeno anyway.
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>>148308629
So a different timeline formed due to Whis' actions? Would that also mean that there is an instance in which Frieza successfully blew up the Earth and got his revenge?
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>>148309212
>God the anime sucks.
>Saying this while looking at a manga page
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>>148309267
Black slaughtered all Earthlings, like animals! He hates them. Or maybe he was driven off by Gohan since this is before his power went to shit.

MY hand is safe, pic related.
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>>148309257
Is he better than Black now?
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>>148309283
>when you nutted but she still suckin
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>>148309272
A mere human did worked on Piccolo but someone like Goku?

I doubt this thing is a good idea without requiring a life to pull it off.
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>>148308590
This power is supposed to be way stronger than all the regular super saiyan forms (3 included)

Why bother using yellow when not using Blue.
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>>148309313
Zeno would really just spoil the whole thing, in my opinion.
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>>148309272
Magazine spoilers say that Goku will go to Roshi to learn the Mafuba. And it didn't work against Piccolo because he created a technique specifically to counter it.
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>>148309229
>Can you read? crying "t-too bad" like it's my fault the show is shit
No it's your fault that you're retarded
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>>148309137
>The manga is non canon though.
it's true this guy using the term "retcon" is not quite correct BUT the manga is canon in it's own continuity.
Toei's tv show fills out the plot outlines with their own plot elements diverging it from the original barebone manuscripts that Toriyama creates.
Blue Kaioken was in a sense retconned in the Anime as well when Gowasu is watching the "climax" of the Hit fight on God Tube and they completely omitted the KKx10 transformation.
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>>148308823

Usually, English subs come out about 12-15 hours after airing. Spanish subs somehow come out within two hours because spics are fucking rabid about anything Dragon Ball.
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i wanted Goku to break Black's arm so bad
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>>148308475
In the anime Goku raged when Kid Buu destroyed the earth
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Made a poll for what fusion you think will be used to defeat black

http://www.strawpoll.me/11391705
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>>148307890
I need more of this selfcest
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>>148309326
Whis doesn't create a new timeline, he rewinds the current one in it's entirety.

Black is from an entirely different timeline than the ones we know of.
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>>148309206
>>148309172
>>148309140
>>148309137
>>148309118

>Toriyama didn't go on record that Toei was fucking up with Super and it disturbed him

This is why people who are DBZ/DBS fans get a bad name. Autistic fanboys that can't be fucked to know anything beyond what they're told.

You ningens are retarded as fuck.
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>Gohan in NEP preview
He's coming back boys!
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>Goku: "But you were destroyed! I saw it!"
>Black: "It's thanks to this Time Ring! Thanks to it, nothing in the past can affect me!"

So... If you take away his time ring... Will he be deleted by Beerus's power?
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>>148309343
what the fuck is he wearing
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>>148309137
>this shit again
the manga is more canon than the anime
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Drawfag here, what do you anons want?
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>>148309343
Why does it look like Chi Chi is carrying Gohan on her back here?
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>>148307982
feels good mang
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>>148309332
I meant the anime not explaining what was on that page is why it sucks. Dumbass
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>>148309437

WE DID IT BOYS
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>>148309452
Makes more sense too.
Trunks anime being weaker then ssj3 is bullshit.
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>>148309441
Yes.
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>>148309427
How fucking long ago was that? They also commented that Toei was looking at Toyotaro's work for storyboarding, but the anime is so far ahead that that is no longer possible.
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>>148309453
Vegeta about to kill black
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>>148308629
But there's no timeline where Zamasu would get a time ring at that point. Everyone was looking at him.

It's more likely that even without Trunks going to the past Zamasu still would have fought Goku somehow, and watched the tournament, leading to the Super Dragonballs and the wishes.
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>>148309441
I hope Trunks cuts of his finger or something. Or maybe Yairobe does lol.
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>>148309437
>Gohan collapses from his rage boost
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>>148309441
This part was complete bullshit. What the fuck does the time ring have to do with being immune from Beerus's power?
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>>148309475
MONTHS AND MONTHS OF RIDICULE.
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>>148309382
calling me retarded still doesn't make the show less shit. man, why are you so frustrated? nothing wrong with watching a shit show anon.
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Why is he so perfect?
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>>148309449
>>148309456

Who said she isn't carrying Gohan?
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Couldn't catch the episode, what caused Trunks to go full Broly?
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>>148309385
>Gowasu is watching the "climax"
The climax was about to start, SSB Kaioken was the climax.
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>>148309233
>The question remains however, if Zamasu fuses... does that mean he loses his immortality?

No, it means he's half-immortal now.
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>>148308905
>>148308978
this makes me really sad
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>>148309525
ARE OVER, BROTHER!
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>>148309364
>Why bother using yellow when not using Blue.
Because, according to Super, SSJ1 is still a boost over his base form. It's SSJ1 that equals SSJ God, not his base, unlike what Bandai claimed with the Saiyan Beyond God stuff.
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>>148309518
Its the lord of the rings.
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>>148309453
Goten using the Mafuba with Super Saiyan God(Red) form on Zamasu
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>>148309485
>Makes more sense too.
>proceeds to point to a part in the anime that makes sense
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>>148309542
zamasusses bullied him
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>>148307886
>It's over now you never have to make tea for him again.
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>>148309496
>Or maybe Yairobe does
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>>148309347
At the beginning of the episode I thought it was Bulma
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>>148309437
>He never wanted to fight
>he was forced to fight
>it's going to happen again
>he just says fuck it and goes back home
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>>148309518
My theory that removing his ring will send him back to his own timeline and get killed instantly by Beerus' haikai AoE effect.
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>>148309542
Nothing really, he got his shit pushed in and this time decided to rage and get a power boost
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>>148309456
She probably is carrying him.
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>>148309364
Saiyan Beyond God form is only a "named" transformation in the Heroes video game and is only really mentioned in RoF movie.
It seems like it's fair to assume that God Ki has been consolidated and only tapped into now after activating it. (Goku God Punching Trunks etc)
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>>148309453
will you draw lewds
zamasu getting assfucked please
otherwise, zamasu and zamasu black being jolly gays
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>>148309537
>talks to himself
>schemes with himself
>lives in a cabin out in the woods with himself
>makes tea for himself
>fuses with himself
>hugs himself
can't tell if this is conceited or sad
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>>148309571
>halflings are weaker than pure saiyans
fuck off
trunks being stronger than gohan makes more sense
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>>148309518
The ring makes him immune to temporal distortions.
So, killing him in the past does erase him in the present.
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>Zamasu says that Trunks use of the time machine is what gave birth to a new time ring

That's actually not true, Cell made Goku's timeline first when he stole Trunks time machine and went back in time, but hardly anyone understands first.
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Trunks has officially finished Gohan's character. He even took his trademark rage autism and does it better.
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>>148309530
>calling me retarded
But it's true, you acted like the show didn't explain why Black gets getting stronger yet it did, you missed it because you weren't paying attention. Thus you blamed the show for your incompetence.
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>>148309427
>Toriyama didn't go on record that Toei was
Yeah back in like episode 6 or something and he was only talkig about animation. We are at 62 now, retard.
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>>148308969
>Goku only fought Zamasu because of Black, but Black only exists because Goku fought Zamasu... it doesn't really make sense.

First, let me say something:
-At some point, original Zamasu's nature is changed by F.Trunks's time travelling in the past. Original Zamasu learns about a human who comes from the future using a time machine, kickstarting his hatred of humans. This comes together with Whis's warning at the start of the arc that time travelling can have serious consequences due to the buttlerfly effect. Maybe Zamasu would never hate humans if F.Trunks never went back in time.

Now, how Black can exist without any time paradox.:
-Black is an original Zamasu who only watched the U6vsU7 tournament, learned about Son Goku and the Super Dragon Balls. This original Timeline never had a time travelling F.Trunks returning there because Black didn't exist, as it is the cause of Black's existance.
-Original Zamasu never fought against original Goku, discounting the time where he killed original Goku after trading bodies with him.
-Original Zamasu uses the Super Dragon Balls, trades his body with original Goku.
-Kills Original Goku and his family.
-Goes after the F.Trunks timeline because of his hatred of time travelling humans.
-Meets F.Zamasu and formulates the Zero Humans plan with him.
-Uses the Super Dragon Balls from F.Trunks timeline to make F.Zamasu immortal.
-Uses it again to make it destroy itself forever, ruining any chance to save F.Trunks's future with them.
-Black starts killing all the gods from F.Trunks's timeline together with F.Zamasu, leading to the events of this arc.
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>>148309566
That's clearly not what happened when Trunks and Goku sparred. When Goku fought Freeza in all versions, he and Vegeta didn't transform but were still leagues above Gohan.
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>>148309485
Well he should be weaker, you're not making any sense.
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>>148309300

Honestly, I doubt Vegeta would react that way, due to his pride and all.

If anything, It might be Bulma that feels that way.
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>>148309552
>SSB Kaioken was the climax.
no the climax was featured on GodTube, that's when Zamasu gets triggered. SSBKK was completely omitted during Zamasu getting angry about a mortal being cloaked in God Ki.
Even if he does go KK for the sake of argument, they removed it from GodTube scene to keep it more in line with the manga continuity.
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>>148309518
>What the fuck does the time ring have to do with being immune from Beerus's power?
Because Beerus erased him from time and space.
The time ring tethers him to time and space and allows paradoxes. It's a pretty common thing to see when it comes to these themes. Ones that come to mind are Tracer, The Tardis, Timmy Turner in Channel Chasers,
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Black is stronger than Goku and Vegeta already, if he fuses with Zamasu not even SSB Vegito or Gogeta can win.
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>>148309628
Zamasu said that Trunks going back (the very first time) to give Goku the medicine was the reason everything has happened.
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>>148308844
>In this timeline, Goku still fights Zamasu, and beats him.

This part makes no sense. The entire REASON Goku fought Zamasu in the timeline we're following is because they were investigating him because of Trunks travelling to the past and Goku encountering Black. But if this is an "original" version of the timeline where Trunks didn't return to the past, how would Goku ever encounter Zamasu? How would Zamasu even learn about Goku at all?
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>>148309624
You're an idiot.

Gohan is a literal half demon, thanks to Chichi's family ancestors. He went ssj2 as a kid that is stronger than Dabura in Trunks' timeline.
(Which he struggled to attain the ssj2 to defeat him)
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>>148309485
>>148309452
>can't lift 1000 tons
Manga is literally just a rushed preview for Super.
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would you accept his offer?
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>Black/Zamasu kills Bulma right infront of Vegeta

How do you think Vegeta would have reacted? He didn't get a good shot on them this episode.
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>>148309634
>does it better.
Are you really this delusional, Gohan maybe shit now, but do you really think Trunks pseudo ssjg rage was better than this
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>>148309606
Goku and Vegeta used it in Super anime as well though.
See the Goku vs Copy-Vegeta fight.
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>>148309716
Not if the asspul the Old Kai said about "The rivalry between the 2 makes them even stronger"
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>>148309718
Why is she such a slut?
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>>148309385
>>148309704
>didn't appear in a partial recap
>totally retconned guys
Are you serious?
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Not sure how to feel about this.
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>>148309720
Trunks did that but the FIRST Trunks to do that was a different Trunks. That Trunks got killed by Cell.

It's complicated and doesn't really make a lot of sense. I highly doubt Toriyama gets it either.
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>>148309763
look at his parents
it should be pretty self explanatory
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>>148309766
More
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>>148309643
>you acted like the show didn't explain why Black gets getting stronger yet it did
No, I said the explanation was stupid. you really can't read can you?
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>>148309744
Not him but it was because he actually stayed angry rather than getting oddly calm and cocky.
But the actual transformation scene can't be beat.
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>>148309763
DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW
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>>148309763
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>>148309626
Why did Black get pushed back to Trunks' timeline after fighting ssj2 Goku?
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>>148309732
It was over 1000 tons.
Could be 1001 tons, could be 100,000,000,000,000 tons.
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>>148309491
Canon is dictated by the creator, not by who gets there first.

This is part of why retconning exists. First day here?
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>>148309634
at least Gohan had happy ending
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>>148307775
this gave me a boner
t. zamasu
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>>148309723

They could potentially have fought under different pretenses.
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Goku, Vegeta and Trunks should have brought gas
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>>148309718
Remember, Pan is strong enough to kick Trunks' ass as a baby.
And Trunks is the Legendary Super Saiyan.
Pan could defeat Beerus soon.
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So if Trunks was at Bulma's party when Beerus arrived then we wouldn't have needed a ritual. Trunks would have flipped out and started impressing Beerus right away

Now where the fuck was this power at when Black killed Bulma and nearly killed Mai
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>>148309834
It wasn't just 1000 tons though.
Magetta was also pushing against Vegeta at the same time.
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>>148309704
>SSBKK was completely omitted
And the four star super dragon ball was shown despite the planet itself being the four star ball, what's your point?
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>>148309835
Just so you know Toriyama hasn't said one is canon over the other.
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>>148309496
>Yajirobi does
that would be fucking perfect
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>>148309704
>no the climax was featured on GodTube
Nope, Gowasu literally says "the climax is about to start". It was never shown. The climax is SSB Kaioken, that's literally when the fight ends.

They never removed anything, the manga is not canon. Fuck off with your can't lift 1000 tons trash.
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>>148309764
deal with it faggot Toeicuck.
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>>148309790
>I said the explanation was stupid.
>>148308164
Stay on your meds anon
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Soon.
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>>148309877
Gone because he had literally nothing to eat.
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>>148309744
Yes. He didn't become a massive edgy retard.
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>>148309566
>>148309663
I think it works like this -
Goku and Vegeta can still access the yellow SSJ forms if they turn off the divine ki.
They can simultaneously activate Super Saiyan and God Ki at the same time resulting in blue, but can still activate them resulting in Super Saiyan 1,2, or 3 AND Saiyan Beyond God.
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>>148309769
>Trunks did that but the FIRST Trunks to do that was a different Trunks. That Trunks got killed by Cell.
Nope. The Trunks that Cell killed was some other random Trunks. The original Trunks would be the one that appeared in Cell's past. It's the whole reason both Cell and Future Trunks somehow end up in the same timeline. There was a Future Trunks in Cell's past, and Cell says that they only didn't get his cells because they already had too many Saiyans.
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>>148309491
It's not impossible. We have no idea how far ahead Toyo's drafts are. We just know when he releases them to the public.
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>Mystic Black

when?
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>>148309877
I'm guessing godly ki is contagious at this point.
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>>148309877

Think of it this way. Them telling Trunks is all his fault, makes him feel incredibly guilty.

Do you even understand the power of self-hatred and guilt? It's no wonder Trunks powered up such a ridiculous amount.
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>>148309209
I don't think Black actually was created from a timeline where Beerus goes after Zamasu, because Beerus only goes after Zamasu due to Black's actions. In short, that would create a time paradox. I could understand it if Beerus destroyed him after he put the Time Ring, but it happened before he had the chance.
I think in the first timeline Zamasu never met Goku and there was no Goku Black, first Zamasu/Goku Black just went after the Super Dragon Balls and Goku's body because of the U6 vs U7 tournament.
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If I could be a super hero I'd be Trunks from Dragon Ball Z. His power is maximum.
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>>148309885
Magetta was just standing there.
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>trunks goes lssjg
The royal blood finally pays off
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>>148309877
>Now where the fuck was this power at when Black killed Bulma and nearly killed Mai

Why didn't everyone on planet Vegeta turn super saiyan when the planet blew up. Answer is that Trunks needed to go through all this shit recently in order to evolve to this. Seeing Goku and Vegeta's power, getting his ass kicked repeatedly big time, and finally tapping into it through super rage. Black killing Bulma was too sudden, it was despair rather than anger.
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>>148309818
The ring doesn't allow time travel to the past.
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>>148309877
Trunks fought Black but Goku(Black timeline) is actually pretty damn strong in post BoTG.

In a sense, Black didn't go SS Rose against Trunks because he was too damn weak and completely one sided.
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>Ningen, Please
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What happens when Zeno dies?
How strong are his body guards?
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>Zamasu and Black killed the rest of the gods with at most SSJ2 power levels

What?
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>>148309890
my point is Toei is shit and they themselves know it.
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Why doesn't Zamasu keep getting Black to near death until he stronger than even Zeno?
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>>148309818
He only went there through the time rift created by the time machine. When the time rift corrected itself, it pulled him back to the other timeline.
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>>148309815
>again
I wonder if that temper she got from her parents has anything to do with it
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>>148309723
Zamasu likely would watch the Universe 6 tournament on tv. It could also be like in the manga where he actually first learns about Goku from Kaioshin.
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>>148309885
>>148309903
I know it hurts your precious headcannon about Goku beating Superman, but you'll accept t one day.
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>>148310028
they killed the kaioshins, who are pretty weak, they were too coward to go after the GoD.
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>>148309485
Trunks's SSJ2 being comparable to Goku's SSJ3 in power is bullshit.
First, Goku's SSJ3 should be miles ahead because he had actual god training with fucking Whis.
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>>148309944
No, the Trunks that Cell killed was the original Trunks. The Future Trunks we know was indirectly made as a result of both original Trunks and Cells actions. The reason they show up in the same timeline even though that should be impossible is because that's what the original trunks changed history to be.
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>>148310028

A lot of Kais aren't that strong. Zamasu was already a fighting prodigy.
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Can someone post screen cap about goku being penetrated by the sword and him laying on the ground after black finished him off thank you.
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>>148310028
Kaioshins were always established as shitters.
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>>148309720
How did he even know it was Trunks that created the timeline though? Did the guy who answered Zamasu one time ago tell him? Kinda weird how creating a different timeline is not acceptable but it's okay for him to kill all the Kaioshins. I wonder why didn't the top 5 dude stop Zamasus.
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>>148310040
That made sense.
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>>148309921
>Kakarottooo
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>>148309871
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>>148309863
>They could potentially have fought under different pretenses

I considered that, but it still seems like such a stretch. I mean they live in completely different universes, and even then, only under extremely special conditions do mortals ever step foot in the realm of a Kaioshin.

I enjoyed this episode overall but man Super is fucking shit at explaining things.
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Best Boys, now and forever. No boy is more best.
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LOL at Future Zamasu immediately accepting Gowasu's death even though he didn't hate him
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>>148310028
In the manga Black made SS3 tier Trunks look like fodder and it was stated that they went after the Kaioshins.
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>>148307827
trunks is the LSSJ
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>>148310027
Whis said Grand Priest is in the top 5 strengths of all universes, so I'd assume

Grand Priest
Unknown
Guard
Guard
Zeno

Remember that in the anime Beerus and Champa shit their pants when the guards stepped in front of Goku
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>>148310113
I want them to kill me.
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>>148310028
This is weird, I think by "gods", they meant only
- Kaios (King Kai, etc)
- Dai Kaio (that old man from the filler arc) - he actually exists in canon, but was only mentioned by title

He couldn't mean the gods from the other universes, because they would have been rekt by any God of Destruction.
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>>148309644
>episode 6 or something
Oh boy, one of these idiots. It was nowhere close to 6. If I recall correctly, it was during Revival F arc.

And where does it say he stopped? We are 62 now, retard and it has gotten better.

Wonder why?
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>>148310124
>>148307827
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>>148310027
>a being who can create this powerful beings
>dying
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>>148309941
I thought that as well, but the God Base level has never been particularly identified since Freeza. It has just been Base, same old SSJs, and SSJB ever since. No one has ever gone back to that.
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>>148310079
Goku didn't use Saiyan Beyond God in that sparring match :^)
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>>148310059
>half a galaxy buster even while amped
Even Broly can crush Superman with ease.
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>>148309877
>Now where the fuck was this power at when Black killed Bulma and nearly killed Mai

Here's how I see it.
It's because the rage is directed more at himself causing these events through the butterfly effect. So it's essentially subconsciously condensing his ki in a similar albeit different way to SSB.
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>>148310028
You know the Kais couldn't even beat Cell right
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>>148307827

Is this the power of Vegeta's sperm, /a/?
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>>148310139
He meant he killed all the Kaioshin in the other universes.
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>>148310140
It was the episode of the fight fight between Goku and Beerus that looked like a person with Parkinsons animated it in mspaint.
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WHERE ARE THE BEANER SUBS?
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>>148310159
SSJ forms are multiplers, and Goku's base form is miles ahead of Trunks's base form due to his training with Whis.
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>>148310154
Goku and Copy Vegeta used it when they fought right before going SSBlue
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>>148309892
Why would he step on anyone's feet that hard when he's getting royalty checks?

He's the last word on it all.
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>>148310079
yes it does make sense
trunks has even more potential than gohan
gohan was born when goku had a powerlevel of like 300 compared to trunks where vegeta had a pre-ssj powerlevel
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>>148310080
>No, the Trunks that Cell killed was the original Trunks.
He wasn't. The original Future Trunks is the one that appears in Cell's past - and Cell's past can't be the original timeline because Trunks kills Freeza and Cold there, rather than Goku. Cell says that they could have collected Trunks' cells there but didn't because they already had too many Saiyans.
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Animation this episode was pretty meh. Not the worst Super has ever been, but hardly impressive.

Next episode doesn't look any better, but we'll see.
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>>148310162
I guess it is fueled by self-hatred, then. Hmm...really makes you think.
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>>148310193
>>148310193
Yea, that's what I'm saying.
Goku's training with whis established God Base.
He didn't use God ki during that sparring match.
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>>148310172
This is weird, then. What did he mean by "I've finally found a timeline without that annoying GoD (Beerus)", then? Are they on Trunks' timeline just because they hate Trunks?
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>>148310138
Since when are Black and Zamasu in Precure?
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>>148307827

RIP Mai's pussy
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>>148310229
dragon ball isn't known for the animation
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>>148310079
>Trunks's SSJ2 being comparable to Goku's SSJ3 in power is bullshit.
Better than what the anime pulled with Trunks blocking an attack meant to SSJB Goku and then kicking around Black and Zamasu for a bit.
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>modern-trunkfags going brolymeme merges despite it was already emerged back in 90's where Trunks went bulk
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>>148310140
Toriyama said it right after the first Beerus vs Goku episode.
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>>148309892
I don't think it particularly matters since the story is pretty much the same

This canon argument is just autistic
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>>148310228
You seriously believe that plothole that there was a timeline where Frieza was defeated by Trunks and Trunks saved Goku but everyone got killed by the Androids anyway? The fuck is wrong with you? That shit doesn't make any sense even if you think Future Trunks came first.
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>>148310254
They started in Trunks' timeline because there was no Beerus to notice a god running around doing as he pleased, then assassinated all the Kaioshin, leaving the multiverse open.
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>>148310254
>This is weird, then. What did he mean by "I've finally found a timeline without that annoying GoD (Beerus)", then?
That line wasn't in the anime. It seems like in the anime he only went to Trunks' timeline because the ring randomly took him there, rather than him going after a timeline without a God of Destruction where he could start his plans.
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>>148310270
shut the fuck up
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>>148310254
>This is weird, then. What did he mean by "I've finally found a timeline without that annoying GoD (Beerus)"
In F. Trunks timeline kaioshin died fighting Dabura, so Beerus died in his sleep, Black just killed all other kaioshins from other universes in that timeline, maybe Beerus is the stronger GoD after all.
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>>148310138
I want Black to take his gigantic sword and penetrate me countless times with it.
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>>148310228
That never made any sense, and I still believe it was just an error on their part. The DB wiki specifies this Trunks (from Cell's flashback) as "Trunks (unknown timeline)", because he obviously can't be the first Trunks, because he can't change his own past, and can't be the Trunks after Cell arrived, because Cell didn't go to the past yet.
Someone in a prior thread said it was a "time-displaced" version of Trunks.
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I wish Zen-O didn't exist. Anyone else agree?
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>>148310337
I finally caught you, Lupin!
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>>148310382
I disagree.
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>>148310362
Motherfucker gets a huge beatdown then just counters with the most smug way possible
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>>148310362
Its okay Black missed Goku's Vital spots :)
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Its stated in the manga.
Also that trunks who killed frieza and cold and never went back to safe the others again is patrol trunks. He is the original trunks who comitted the time travel offense.
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>>148310362
That was fucking brutal in a way I don't recognize from Dragon Ball. Black and Zamasu are so fucked up, I love it.
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>>148310382
I agree.
I also wish Goten didn't exist.
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>>148310395
>Lupin SSJ3rd
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>>148310356
Didn't Whis say the other gods of destruction are "more violent" than Beerus/Champa?
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>>148310282
Not the same, bulk is a trained form this is pure rage.
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>>148310438
But who would Trunks fuse with?
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So is Black the leader of the Zamasu crew? He keeps using immortal Zamasu as a bodyguard
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>>148310430
watching black kill goku in zamasu's body and then his family was pretty brutal too
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>>148310468
Nobody. Gotenks didn't accomplish anything.
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>>148310422
Source?
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>>148310468
you're mom
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>>148310462
That doesn't mean they're stronger. It just means they're bigger assholes...or they actually do their job instead of sleeping all the time (Beerus) or eating all the time (Champa)
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>>148310380
that Trunks actually is from the unknown timeline
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>>148310468
this is literally the basis to goten's character
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>>148310422
That's only because the REAL original Trunks is dead. How's he supposed to be on the patrol if he's dead?
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>>148310430
They are best boys. And the best villains since Freeza.
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>>148308272
FOR YOU
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Why didn't Black gather more Zamasu for this club. There are 4 more timelines he could recruit from.
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>>148310079
Why are you trying to make sense in powerlevels? Goku and Vegeta trained a lot with Whis but Black fought once with Goku and suddenly he's already way stronger than SSB.
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>>148310542
>sleeping and eating all the time
>cats

Sasuga.
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>>148310221
>trunks has even more potential than gohan

Oh man, hell no. I'm too low energy for this.
Don't start it. This potential shit is just bullshit Toriyama uses to justify shitty writing. Where was this potential when Future Gohan got his ass kicked by the androids?
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>>148310300
>but everyone got killed by the Androids anyway?
If you think about it, does that even need to happen? Maybe the time machine there existed for other purposes. The only thing confirmed about that future in the manga is that 17 and 18 were dead.
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>>148310498
Super made me feel bad for Chi Chi dying. This arc is so good.
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>>148310628
>Super made me feel bad for Chi Chi dying
Not me. She deserved it for ruining Gohan.
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>>148310628
>>148310651

>tfw this kind of happened
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>>148310420
ALL OF THEM?!
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>>148310651
>it's one of these faggots again
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>>148310620
that potential gave him the ssj obviously. remember how weak as shit everybody was before androids.
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>>148310556
Well according to this Im right.
There is no timeline where Trunks CAME from the future but the Androids beat everyone anyway which is the only way Future Trunks coming first could make the slightest ounce of sense and even then it's full of holes.
Unknown Trunks is the original Prime Trunks.
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>>148310563
You confusing shit up.

3 trunks exist.
1. Trunks who kills cold and frieza in cell's timeline and never comes back to safe the z warriors becomes patrol trunks.
2.trunk who grew up in cell timeline dies to cell after getting blueprints from the timeline where zamasu steals goku body.
3.trunks is current trunks.
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>>148310356
>>148310462
IIRC, Beerus is a mid-tier GoD. There are stronger and weaker GoDs than him.
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>>148310604
>Goku and Vegeta trained a lot with Whis
And Zamasu took over that already strong and trained body. Zamasu just needed first hand experience to figure out how the body worked.
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>>148310701
Dont muddle things by bringing Zamasu into this, we don't know what timeline he went to.
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>>148310628
>>148308998
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>>148310628
This, Chi Chi didn't deserved that, killed by her own husband's body.
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>>148310221
>yes it does make sense
By making no sense at all.
For one it would take a considerably large amount of training for Trunks to reach the same level as the SSJ3 multiplier Goku had and remember this is someone who has been training nearly every day for all 40 or so years of his life and actually fought off against Majin Buu.

As retarded as power levels are the manga is infinitely more retarded for making him the same level as SSJ3 Goku. Not to mention it just states important plot points like they're nothing rather than attempting to make some kind of tension.
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>>148310701
>safe

you mean save, I noticed your previous post mentioned this.
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>>148310731
>And Zamasu took over that already strong and trained body

I don't remember there ever being a point where Goku went back to farming after training with Whis.
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>>148310701

is Xenoverse canon?

Patrol Trunks is non-existent as of yet.
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>>148310420
Like always. First Vegeta and now Goku. He will regret it when Goku brings the rice cooker back so Beerus can hakai Black.
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>>148308408
Why is Sumeragi so sexual?
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>>148310651
>>148310667
Gohan is old and JUSTed, Trunks is the new Gohan.
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People thought vegeta was gonna job again

just wait till ep 63 for when vegeta makes trunks new form look like nothing
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>>148310790
It was going to happen eventually. This was the future.
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>>148310791
no and it never will be

/v/ needs to fuck off with their fanfiction video games
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Is Trunks the best character in the series?
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>>148310701
>patrol trunks.
>>148310791
>s Xenoverse canon?
NOT CANON
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>>148308475
Why Chi Chi is so not lewd?
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Is it safe to say gohan embraced his human side leading to mystic while trunks embraces his saiyan side leading to the transformations?
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>>148310836
>This was the future.

And Goten was still a runt?
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>>148308942
>>148308941
Super DB transcends timeline.
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>>148310766
>For one it would take a considerably large amount of training for Trunks to reach the same level as the SSJ3 multiplier Goku had
I think the implication from his dialogue is that he just improved SSJ2, like how everyone improved SSJ1 in the Cell Saga. He first transforms on par with Goku and then says that he wasn't satisfied with that power, before powering up further.
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>>148310791
Bulma died so no.
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>>148310791
No.
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>>148310833
>He's just putting in max power to give time for Goku to use the Mafuba
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>>148310791
Xenoverse no
Dragonball online yes.
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>>148310863
No.
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>>148310766
he trained with the kaioshin
he also mastered using the zsword
then he trained for another year until black appeared
then he some zenkai boost from black
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>>148310833
its our time vegetafag
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>>148310863
Really makes you think
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>>148309716

I think you underestimate how much stronger Vegito is. Both, really. Even if we only take Vegito into account, Buu was fucking trivialized even in their base form. And even beat the shit out of him with his power suppressed as the candy.
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>>148310852

Future Trunks, yes

present Trunks is kinda meh, although he was a total bro these past episodes.
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>>148310925

It truly is our time.
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>>148310863
Not he was freely embraces but being forced into saving his own timeline.

>Gohan embraced his human side that leads mystic

no.. that doesn't make any sense.
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>>148310880
>I think the implication from his dialogue is that he just improved SSJ2, like how everyone improved SSJ1 in the Cell Saga.
That's still a lot of power left unaccounted for anon.
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Leave Black to me.
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Is there a new thread up yet?
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i know this is off topic but new best girl
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>>148311036
>asks this instead of making one

sleezy
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was fusion totally forgotten in Super? are Goku and Vegeta too proud to fuse again?

would they job just the same?
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>>148310925
What a time to be a vegetafag
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>>148311067
>was fusion totally forgotten in Super?
Yes. It would not surprise me if Toriyama just wants to shove the Buu saga into the trash can. Everything left over from Buu has been marginalized or ignored.
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>>148311067
Probably not considering they're putting a lot of focus on the potara earrings.
At least Vegeta is.
That would put them into the worst corner ever if they did that.
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>>148310852
>>148310970
Literally best boy.
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>>148311139
Just a reminder, more Buu saga elements have been kept than Cell and Frieza.
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>>148311067
>>148311139
Are you guys retarded? It was mentioned in this arc already.
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>Beerus won't HAKAI these fucks
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>>148311067
>>148311139
>was fusion totally forgotten in Super
>it was literally confirmed Black and Zamasu are going to fuse
Black is stronger than Goku and Vegeta, if he fuses with Zamasu even SSB Gogeta and Vegito will job.
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>>148311172
If they make Vegito job then the only real place we could go to from there is pressing the Zeno button
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Why Goku haven't use the Genki-dama in Super yet?
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>>148311282
Is a tri-fusion possible?
Trunks + Vegeta + Goku
kind of gay but whatever
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Question.

So present time and future time run parallel right? Like if a year passes in Gokus time then a year passes in Future time right?
When Trunks gives Goku the medicine he immediately leaves. Then 2 years pass in present time.
...Did Trunks wait around doing something for 2 years in the future? Was he 2 years older when he came back a second time?
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>>148311321
Because it never fucking works
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>>148311260
Beerus is a useless faggot who only made the situation worse.
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>>148311284

This.
Vegito is the last trump card,
too bad it didn't won fights in Z and GT due to bullshjit reasons.
>>
While Goku learns the Mafuba, the big surprise is that Vegeta is the one who gets the Potara Earrings as insurance.
>>
RAW when?
>>
>>148311390
Worked against Buu and Vegeta.
That's 2 out of 3.
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>>148311390
It killed Kid buu
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>>148311417
>Vegeta
anon...
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>>148311260

Beerus is in charge of his dimension/universe, he gives 0 fucks about other timelines.
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>>148311282
Goku and Vegeta still have the rivalry fusion bonus going for them.
Who knows what kind of bonus Zamasu gets for fusing with himself.
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>>148311417
>Worked against Buu and Vegeta.
>Vegita

It did not.
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>>148311371
Man, this is time travel shit don't try to explain it. But I'm inclined to say no because Trunks has a time machine that can also hop timelines.
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>>148311369
>Saiyan Tripod

Boy, if you though Gogeta/Vegito having sex with ChiChi or Bulma was weird, have I got news for you!
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>>148311369

Does it count as "The dicks are touching" if they are literally occupying the same space?

This is important information for calculating how gay a three-man fusion would be.
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>>148311486
>Trunks has a time machine that can also hop timelines.

What is that supposed to mean? When you change the settings it's supposed to make a new timeline, but the same Trunks came back.
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>>148311417
>Vegita
>working on someone with a pure heart
>Vegeta's heart isn't pure
>PURE EVIL

Ah, dubs are shit.
>>
Why is serious Goku so fun to watch
>>
YAMEROOOOOOOO

FUCKING RAW WHEN?
>>
>>148311433
Who was pushing it back until Goku got restored to 100 percent energy
>>
>>148311472
>It did not.
It did
It just wasn't meant to kill.
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>>148311406
Best dad.
>>
>>148311530
It was set to 17 years ago but it's not HIS 17 years ago.
Those settings shouldn't have sent him into the main timeline if that were the case.
>>
>>148311589
Well what was it fucking meant to do then? Because he got straight back up after it anyway.
>>
new thread when
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>>148311631
I'm pretty sure what hes saying is as long as its set to "17 years ago" it'll take him to the TV timeline.
Anyway that's not really the issue. Did Trunks age or not? He should've but it doesn't seem like he did.
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>>148311506
>>148311506
>>148311506
Anyone want the answer on trunks time shenanigans come and see here. I tried to explain as simple as possible with the help of the official datapage.
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>>148311321
Why Goku doesn't just charge a Genki-dama in another planet (like Namek), then teleport behind Black and kill him?
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>>148309233
Gogeta will use Soul Crusher and erase him from existence like he did Janemba.
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>>148311676
>He should've but it doesn't seem like he did.
He probably has but just not enough to make an actual difference.
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>>148309233

is this the most OP villain the Z gang has faced?
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What dumb name are they gonna come up for this new form? Super Saiyan Gold?
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>>148311765
Why'd he wait around for 2 years in the future though? Whats the reason he went back a second time in the first place again? Wasn't it to find out why nothing changed? Then he should have come back like, 10 minutes later.
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>>148311321
It was powercreeped. It took all the energy of earth, the main cast, Namek, the bureaucracy of the underworld, and the gods of creation to kill Buu. The power levels are so much higher now it's simply not feasible for a spirit bomb to be useful. Remember that Omega Shenron was killed by a universal spirit bomb, and he and SS4 are nothing compared to Super powerlevels.
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>>148309300
If they fuse,wouldn't Vegito/Gogeta inherently know about the Zeno button anyway?
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>>148311790
Beerus is probably gonna be stronger somehow but I wouldn't count him as a villain
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>>148311923
Beerus' powerlevel is literally "stronger than u".
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>>148307717
IMO, today's was the best Dragon Ball episode to date.(not just super)

Even better than Goku vs Frieza SS1 transformation.

DBS is redeemed for me.
>>
if i take that ring off
will you die?
>>
>>148311833
There's a reason why no one goes into detail of the android saga shenanigans.
>>
OK, I got it, but... why Goku and Zamasu fight in the timeline where Trunks doesn't appears..?

Trunks appears -> Goku & co. knows about Zamasu's ki -> Goku meet Zamasu -> they fight
not Trunks -> Goku & co. knows nothing about Zamasu -> not meeting -> they fight??
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>>148311954
"shit goku can't be stronger than beerus, uhh beerus is stronger guys"
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>>148311992
I found the animation disappointing. I mean it wasn't awful but compared to the earlier fights it was lacking.
Especially when Goku powered up and attacked Black. That was bad looking.
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>>148311992
found the trunksfag
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>>148311954

and Whis is stronger than Beerus, and Whis mentioned that he's nowhere near Great Priest's level
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>>148311881
>gt
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>>148312099
It's the only material there really is to compare the Spirit Bomb with. Regardless, the point is that the power levels have jumped too far from Buu for a Spirit Bomb to be formed that can be useful.
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>>148311369

In the DB Fusions game, you can do a pentuple fusion (5 people at once).
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>>148310059
>Supes
Come back when you can at least solo the Anti-Monitor & be canon at the same time,
>>
So ssj2b trunks is literal controlled rage?
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so is rose just ssb with zamasu ki?
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why is he so precious
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>>148312438
Jump confirmed that Rose is actually just Super Saiyan with Zamasu ki. Black is a fucking monster.
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>>148312073
I think by then end of Super, Goku and Vegeta *might* reach Beerus' power level, but I doubt they'll ever reach Whis, or Zeno's attendant lady's power
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>>148312492
well he's been abusing zenkai boost to get stronger
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>>148310638
>>148310638
>>148310638
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>>148312438
Is a regular SS, not SSB. Zamasu is a "golden apple kai" so he have default god ki.

saiyan + super = SS
saiyan + learned god ki = "beyond god"
saiyan + learned god ki + super = SSB
god (in an saiyan body) + super = SSR
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>>148312492
>Jump confirmed that Rose is actually just Super Saiyan with Zamasu ki

To be fair, Blue is just Super Saiyan with God ki so they're still equivalent forms.
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>>148312438
Rose is Super Saiyan with Zamasu's ki just as Blue is Super Saiyan with God ki.

Since Zamasu is a Kaioshin, his ki is also God ki which is why Rose is just as powerful as Blue.
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>>148308335

>Mah zenkai boost? That shit stopped working since the namek arc.

What??? Goku went from 90,000 to 3,000,000 in ONE FUCKING ZENKAI BOOST! Power Levels and power scaling w/e is fucking bullshit. Just enjoy the show you autistic dweeb, stop trying to make it seem that Dragon Ball is some complicated crap. It isn't, it's a shonen and always will be.
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>>148313226
don't forget cells zenkai boost
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>>148308844
Wow thats confusing as fuck.
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>>148312525
yeah, that's a man.
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