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Is there any studio with better visuals than Ufotable?

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Is there any studio with better visuals than Ufotable?
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Shaft
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>>148234008
Shaft. Mostly.
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Ufotable consistently pump out the ugliest character designs in anime.
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>>148234128
Not to mention the sidemouths
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KyoAni
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>>148234008
Seems like a whole lot of of superfluous digital filters and sparkles to me.
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>>148234547
they aren't superfluous in the slightest. you couldn't be more wrong
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Just saturate my shit up
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>>148234594
Yeah, if you like video games.
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>>148234688
what did you mean by this
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D E E N
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>>148234222
UFOtable at least remembers what backgrounds look like instead of smudged blurs filled with bad attempts at depth of field and made of bloom and lens flare.
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>>148234008
Those are some pretty shitty examples.
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>>148234810
this
ufotable > Kyoani

>>148234850
how so?
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>>148234222
>shit art and animation
>just bloom and blur my shit up
>say no more senpai t kyoanus
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>>148234008
KyoAni
ufotable goes overboard with the effects and everything they do lately looks samey, red and blue filters everywhere.
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CG LOL
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>>148234008
ComixWave. Yeah i'm shinkai cucksucker.
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>>148234222
people should make more grid webms than static ones
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>>148234222
I love their backgrounds, but I wish they'd ditch the contemporary school setting.
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>>148235721
Violet Evergarden, my man
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>>148235797
>yurop
Should be good.
Though K-On! movie was a modern London.
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>>148234547
see >>148234222
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>ufotable
>good visual
Their cinematography is mediocre at best.
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>>148237893
wrong
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>>148234810
You wouldn't know looking at >>148234008
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>>148234008
>CG characters
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>>148238177
where??
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>>148234008
What's with the horrendous character design?
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>>148238458
???
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>>148234008
That's their new anime ? Is it good ?
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>>148238458
Not really Ufotable's fault, it's based on a game
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>>148239222
Not really, it's pretty as all hell, but boring as fuck
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>>148238458
shit taste lad
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>>148234008
This looks fucking terrible. Yuri on Ice, Hibike and Flip Flappers look a billion times better than this trash
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PA Works when they put effort into it.
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>>148239299
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>>148239319

Oosh you just reminded me S2 of this got announced thanks m8

Great show
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>>148238458
shit taste
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>>148234008
Visuals don't mean much when you're forever going to be "that studio that only really exists cause it adapted a bunch of Type moon shit". Even if you look at non-TM adaptations ufotable have yet to put out a single original TVA I would consider good.

When you also factor in the massive budget they get for some of their projects compared to other studios it's pretty sad just how little increase in quality all that money does.
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>>148234008
ufotable is good with backgrounds but awful at putting characters on top of those backgrounds
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>>148239393
*citation needed*
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>>148234810
ufotable is just as guilty of overusing bloom though.
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>>148239437
theyre the best in the industry
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>>148239489
Try paying more attention to how the characters move. Sometimes it looks like they're sliding rather than walking.
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>>148239511
the character animation is good in all of their anime
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>>148239489
I just went blind.
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>>148239319
I do remember thinking there were some really nice aerial shots in kuromukuro.
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>>148239450
I'm gonna assume you're talking about my second point cause the citation for my opinion that they haven't done a good original TVA yet is me.

UBW was reported to break even at ~8000 sales.
http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-12662.html

That's well over double the standard manabi line of 2899 and while it's ridiculous to argue that almost 3x the budget should yield 3x the quality it's still a pretty sad state of affairs considering other studios can produce equal to better quality animation on a third of what ufotable gets.
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>>148234008
There's something off about this image. Everything feels like 3DCGI or something.
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>>148239650
kVin told me budget is a meme though.
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>>148239650
I'd imagine a lot of the costs went to outsourcing work, especially in the second half when episodes started getting loads of key animators to cope with the tight schedule.
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>>148239675
I'm 95% sure that ufotable uses a mixture of 2D and 3D animation
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>>148239736
Pretty much every studio does these days. Ufotable puts a lot of work into the digital post-processing though, that's why their shows look distinct.
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>>148239698
It's half a meme, half true.
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>>148239736
Obviously. They just tend to overuse it and mask poor animation with them, which is why it's really jarring.
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The last thing Ufotable did that looked both good on drawings and animation was Yuri Seijin Naoko-san.

But if you like CG and slideshows of picture of landscapes then disregard this post.
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>>148239792
>distinct

Yeah, I can't think of any other studios with such detailed backgrounds but the characters still have profile sidemouthes.
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>>148234222
Too much bloom and shitty filters
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Sakugablog never talks about ufotable so they must be shit
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>>148239924
Majokko is also legit.
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>>148239924
I would kill a man for a Naoko-san TV anime. Shame that ufotable is stuck doing shitty videogame adaptations as Aniplex's bitch
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When will Ufotable stop doing video game adaptations with eye cancerous visuals?
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>>148240014
The video game stuff comes from Bandai.
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>>148240032
you're blind
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>>148240014
Everyone is Aniplex's bitch now. I swear they put out like 5 or 6 anime a season now.
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>>148240080
>you're blind
Because of ufotable.
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>>148240034
Is that so? I guess I just assumed it was Aniplex since they dominate the anime publishing market so hard.
They're still Aniplex's bitch for the Type-Moon stuff, though.
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>>148240128
their visual direction is blindingly beautiful, i agree
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>>148240096
Everyone except for GodAni, they'll always find a way
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>>148240128
heh
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>>148239319
Not really a visually exceptional show, but it had it's moments
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GoHands > Ufotable

No point comparing to other studios, since Ufotable loses to them absolutely in experience, even to likes of JC Staff or Deen.
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>>148239955
>ufotable
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>>148240131
I'm sure they don't mind getting the main Type-Moon titles from Aniplex, that's pretty much guaranteed profit for the studio. Which producer in their right mind would turn down work like that?

Can't say I'm keen on their Bandai video game adaptions though, it's a waste of time if you ask me seeing that the likes of God Eater and Tales don't exactly sell great. But I guess keeping a good relationship with Bandai guarantees steady work from animating video game OPs so that's probably the business case for it.
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>>148240249
GoHands is even worse with their retarded visuals.
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>>148240249
I feel like DEEN would become god-tier if they didn't launder all of their money and make anime on shoestring budgets.

Konosuba had some very impressive parts.
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>>148240306
GoHands has style. Ufotable doesnt - it has polished but sterile visuals with all the same flaws.
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>>148240325
Konosuba had some good animators working on it. I don't think the studio is well-organized enough to pull off something consistent though.
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>>148240388
Rakugo
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>>148240306
>>148240348
GoHands actually does do some interesting stuff with their animation. I like their rotoscoping and sometimes the filters do work. Sadly, similar to ufotable, it's all wasted when everything else about their anime sucks
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>>148234008
Nah they're visually supreme

>>148234222
They do nice bloomy shit and have good depth of shot but they don't compare
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>>148240408
It didn't have much good animation. The directing carried the show.
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>>148240306
They do some of the most spastic and ugly anime I've ever seen
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>>148240408
Rakugo had god-tier direction but the art/animation itself was normal
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>>148240441
Rakugo was consistent, though.
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>>148240540
>4 of them are the same thing with a different background
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>>148240540
Perfect mediocority.
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>>148240540
thanks for more still images in a thread about art AND animation
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>>148240603
>>148240646
bait

>>148240652
https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/24090/animated-effects-fighting-go_kimura-presumed-spark
https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/24683/animated-effects-fighting-go_kimura-presumed-spark
https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/24921/animated-effects-fighting-lightning-masayuki_kunih
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>>148240540
Thats not Ufotable, thats
Atelier Daimon
Echo
HEBARAKI
Heikuro
Makaria
NARA Animation
Studio Blue
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>>148240721
>truth is bait
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>>148240721
Was that supposed to be examples of impressive animation and choreography? Because it isnt.
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>>148240732
*citation needed*
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>>148240772
yes indeed those are all impressive cuts. how are they not?
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>>148240827
Generic, sterile, bad choreography. Absolutely no imagination nor even understanding of fighting, but mechanical drawing by template.
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>>148240870
buzzword buzzword buzzword, and factually wrong.

https://mranimefan.wordpress.com/2016/07/25/sakuga-tales-of-zestiria-the-x-episode-3-a-not-so-small-analysis/
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>>148239319
This show is aesthetically completely standard. It's basically "I like it so it has to be the visual best: the post"
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>>148240924
>complains about buzzwords
>while parroting a blogfag's opinion

You could at least have taken the effort to paraphrase his piece instead of just linking it.
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>>148240827
Good animation
https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/8565/animated-background_animation-debris-effects-fight
https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/24805/animated-ben-to-fighting-futoshi_higashide
https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/13998/animated-dog_days-effects-fighting-kenichi_takase-
https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/12497/animated-artist_unknown-creatures-dog_days-effects

Bad animation
>>148240721
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>>148240924
As someone who does martial arts, this looks absolutely horrible. If you want good example, watch Phantom World.
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>>148240870
You're embarrassing yourself by spouting words you think are appropriate.
I'm not a particularly huge fan of Ufotable's fight-scenes, but please, gain an understanding, form an opinion, come back and try again.
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>>148240971
lol
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>>148241014
jjust read the analysis you faggot

>>148241023
not an argument

>>148241057
>As someone who does martial arts, this looks absolutely horrible
i see, elaborate the--
>If you want good example, watch Phantom World
oh it's the kyoanus fanboy. why are you always butthurt that ufotable are at the forefront of the industry with their digital work?

>>148241085
this
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>>148240721
The last one looks really bad. The part where they stand there and stiffly swing their arms at each other was awful.
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>>148241085
You are just spouting nonsense exposing more of your ignorance.

Ufotable only ok at camera work and special effect - the choreography and actual animation of their fights is subpar, with very very few exceptions: and the examples you posted are not among them.
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>>148241089
Yet to be impressed. Raise your standards, maybe?
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>>148234008
Ufotable may not have the smoothest animation, but GOD DAMN do they know how to do lighting. And their backgrounds are always gorgeous.
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Why do sakugafags have such low standards in animation?
Why are they always impressed by shitty animation?
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>>148241163
>you posted

Didn't post them. That was my first post in the thread, actually. Just letting you know you'd be better off with a better understanding of what you're watching instead of, as it appears to be, reactively bashing a studio for the sake of reactively bashing a studio.
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>>148241135
>just read the analysis

>meanwhile the links this other guy posted aren't an argument because I say so

Nice hypocrisy faggot.
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>>148241135
Phantom World has actual research put into the martial arts, maybe if you weren't a retard who only likes flashy looking shit you would know.
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>>148241135
>oh it's the kyoanus fanboy. why are you always butthurt that ufotable are at the forefront of the industry with their digital work?
The point was that Ufotable is clueless about animating fights since lack any really talented individual stuff that could showcase great animation, nor the refinement of the studios like KyoAni or Madhouse that could display the actual martial arts authentically.

Ufotable fights, all of them - are jarring nonsense that neither are greatly animated (since cant even draw human body movement naturally), nor well composed (resulting in stupid movements and basic sword bashing of elementary school kids "fighting").

>UFOTABLE digital
heh, not even near. Even Chinese nowadays can do better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlNTL9UT4hg&list=PLG9qcvQe4V9v4da6HM4jxyE_AdIE8OcVT&index=5
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>>148241155
I honestly can't get over how bad this part looked. No momentum, no inertia, no weight. Way too stiff and relies on flash over substance.
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>>148241135
>ufotable are at the forefront of the industry with their digital work?

You got some gall calling someone a kyoanifag with your tongue that far up ufotable's ass.
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>>148241336
Looks almost like a Shinkai movie. Really impressive, chinks.
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>>148241336
>The point was that Ufotable is clueless about animating fights since lack any really talented individual stuff that could showcase great animation
his name is go kimura, newfag
>nor the refinement of the studios like KyoAni or Madhouse that could display the actual martial arts authentically
their in house style is far more refined than either of those studios
>Ufotable fights, all of them - are jarring nonsense that neither are greatly animated (since cant even draw human body movement naturally), nor well composed (resulting in stupid movements and basic sword bashing of elementary school kids "fighting").
wrong on every count. 99% of their fights are weighted and well choreographed
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>>148241467
Whatever you say
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>>148234222
I want to make those kinds of webms, Sony Vegas?
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Recent ufotable is shite. UBW's choreography were pretty bad, but they covered it with flashy hollywood sfx. Character design as well, Takeuchi's art has nose problem, but not to the extent of UBW/Mirai Fukuin
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>>148239650
>That's well over double the standard manabi line of 2899
The Manabi line is not a standard for anything, it's just a joke.
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>>148234008
Aniplex
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>>148243087
>studio
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>>148234008
J.C. Staff
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>>148234008
Riot Games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oorajmbSJUM
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>>148244068
That looks hilariously bad
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>>148243568
Then Funimation
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>>148241089
>>148239319
This is what I'm talking about the lines, the perspective and that lovely color palette leads to a beautiful composition as a whole.

Compare above to this washed out bloomshit
>>148234222
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>>148234008
No, also the God Eater OPs for Rage Burst and Burst/Ressurection look great.
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>>148239650
>KyoAni is confirmed to have a below average budget for their shows
>Still makes better looking anime and with more consistent animation than 95% of the industry, including Ufotable.

They can't keep getting away with it.
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Pierrot
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>>148245570
Literally forced animation: the show.
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>>148244068
>tfw normalfags are exposed to /u/
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>>148245570
I hope VEG will be their most sakuga show since Nichijou.
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>>148245658
Violet Evergarden is going to be ruined by Kyoanus' trademark: terrible writing.

>Not even while being a machine girl can she be left with wet clothes. As a change of clothes was necessary, she lay a bathrobe around her supposedly perfect body and headed for the bathroom. It had been a while since anyone other than Oscar regularly used it, so in a lapse of memory, he entered it without knocking and ended up seeing her while she was had not changed yet.

>“Ah, I’m sor… ry… eh?”

>He swallowed his breath due to perplexity.

>“EEEH?!”

>What was reflected in Oscar’s eyes was a sight more bewitchingly beautiful than any naked woman. Dripping golden hair. Beautiful blue orbs of a dimension that would not soften even within a painting. The finely-shaped lips just below them. A flesh body with a slender neck, an outstanding collarbone, plump breasts, and feminine curves.
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This is the most visceral anime episode of the 21st century.
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>>148245727
Asshurt Narutard detected.
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>>148245658
Ishidate is Nichijou's assistant director and sakugafag so probably.
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>>148245778
Asshurt kyoanus licker detected.

No one likes your shitty shows other than braindead plebs.

Learn to appreciate real anime.
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Most kyoani anime look like dogshit compared to the average Pierrot production.
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KyoAni can learn a thing or two from Pierrot.
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Breathtaking imagery.
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>>148245570
It's just not fair. Why is GodAni so strong?
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>>148245808
Yawn

boring bait, try harder
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>>148245886
>Yawn
I had that same feeling watching Hyouka
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>>148245834
>>148245859
>>148245880
These look like trash, no wonder why Naruto fans have such a bad rep.
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>>148245937
Get some taste.

Visual direction isn't something easily understood. Come back in a few years once you've studied the art.
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>>148245982
>>148245916
If Sasuke was a female, I'm pretty sure they would've fucked.

Hinata who?
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>narutards are 2016 4chan piss redditors

Makes a lot of sense
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How can any other studio even compare to KinoAni?
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>le kino thread

Don't let /a/ fall for this
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>>148246040
What's funnier is that he's a pass user. There should be a feature for 4chanX that allows us to filter them as well, they bring second hand embarrassment.
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>>148246049
I've yet to see a KyoAni character demonstrate such a range of emotions as Sasuke in Naruto's latest episode.
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>>148246049
>lucky star OVA
>disappearance
>hyouka
Takemoto was at the top of his game back then.
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>>148246156
That looks cringy as hell.
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>>148246092
>There should be a feature for 4chanX that allows us to filter them as well,
But then Hiroshima won't be able to make money from passes :^)
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>>148234222
This. KyoAni is the greatest studio of all-time. With KyoAni, every scene is sakuga. If it's not KyoAni, it's not sakuga.
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>>148246092
4chanx was updated to let you filter 4chan pass users already

Honestly all these 2016 pass holders deserve to be filtered because they all got it just to have a special little leaf next to their names
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>>148246271
Violet Evergarden
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>>148244068
>3D CGI MVs

Haha, fuck no.
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>>148234222
>>148234222
>>148234222

KyoAni confirmed for objectively better than your favorite studio.
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>>148246156
Looks terribad. Is that supposed to be a movie?
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>>148246367
It looks better than pathetic attempt at character animation in KnK that's for sure.
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>>148246367
You just made me realize that the MCs in Kyoani shows always choose the worst girls.
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>>148246436
Kanie and Akkey chose the best girls.
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>>148244946
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>>148234008
All of these are competently made but none of it is great from a technical standpoint.

>>148234222
Random shots of mundane things. Bloom and washed out filters, well made but not artistic.The world feels sterile and fake.

>>148239319
>>148241089
Beautiful use of lines, angles and perspective. The choice of color palette and consistently great art style creates a unifying vibe to the show.

>>148240540
The style and detail shows a grand world waiting to be explored. Ufo is better at these landscape shots/scenes showing off the setting rather than action.

>>148243643
Cool tones and use of weird angles show off an intriguing post-apocalyptic world

>>148244946
>>148246531
Better use of shots but still boring >>148234222
same comments apply.
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>>148246581
>well made but not artistic
What does that even mean?
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>>148246531
1st episode was great. I loved the little things to make the world feel alive.
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>>148246581
That's a whole lotta nothing you just typed out
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>>148246661
"I'm from /v/"
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How much value do you put into meme directions?
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>>148246367
They nailed the character acting in Mirai hen
2017 can't come soon enough
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>>148246734
The first few episodes of this looked really good. Can't say the same about the rest, typical WIT.
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>>148246531
>he thinks those photoshop/adobe tier effects look good
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>>148246829
>reddit reaction image

Opinion discarded. Damn why do KinoAni haters keep outing themselves as retards? It's really sad.
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>>148246788
I can't take them seriously at this point but boy do they make pretty first episodes.
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>>148246661
These are scenes from an anime made 21 years ago.

Notice the difference. There's more to visual storytelling than just making detailed scenes.
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>>148247050
>Visual storytelling
Tanks aiming at something
Girl in the middle of the read
Helicopters fighting a robot
Girl opening the door
Helicopter shooting
Boy looking at book
Boy looking at man
Boy looking at robot

Visual storytelling
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>>148247050
None of those are good. Even just posting the caged Shinji shot would have been better.
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>>148247050
At least post Ikuhara of you want to post about scene composition. And the scenes you choose are some of the most mundane Eva shots.
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>>148246937
I want to lick and fuck Mumei's feet so badly...
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>>148247182
>>148247163
>mundane
caps 1,2,3 and 6 are creative shots that do excellent world building. You get a good idea of Tokyo 3 and the mood of the show in just the first episode with these scenes.

Cap 3 gives a great intro to the mysterious Rei Ayanami. That shot and the lines leaves you intrigued at who this girl is.

Cap 5 is perhaps the 2nd most boring of all but it foreshadows the dynamic between shinji and misato with the use of the low angle just behind the shoulder of shinji.

Cap 7 is also a great foreshadowing, the impending issues of getting in the robot. The shadowed figure of Shinji and that giant hand reaching over him encapsulates it.

Cap 8 shows a lot of things. The power dynamic between Gendo and Shinji shown by the low angle shot. Their estranged relationship, the thing (eva) that links them together shown by the horn of EVA-01 connecting Shinji and Gendo.

Cap 9 is perhaps the most boring but it is still well made and shows a good 3rd person angle concerning the terror of piloting for the first time and facing an angel.
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>>148240870
>Generic
Holy shit learn how to argument properly before criticizing something
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>>148247566
You can figure this all out because you watched the show, not because of the visual storytelling
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>Nooo good lighting and atmosphere doesn't counts as visuals!
>Muh adobe after effects
Ufotable haters in a nutshell
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>>148247566
Watch some Ikuhara anon. Seriously do that right now.
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>>148234222
>>148245570
>>148246049
>>148246531
>>148246579
>>148246771
The only examples of good visuals in this thread.
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>>148245628
>>148245653
>>148245727
>>148245772
>>148245808
>>148245834
>>148245859
>>148245880
>>148245916
>>148245982
The only examples of good visuals in this thread.
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>>148247731
Ikuhara is great too. I know anon.
Anno is pretty good himself.
I'm just giving out examples.
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Hibike 2's first episode was better directed than S1's first episode. Yamada on kino watch.
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>Koe no Katachi will most likely gross more than Naruto the Last with half the screens.

KyoAni > Memeriot
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>>148248644
>Ishihara trained Yamada
>Yamada trained Fujita

GodAni just keep getting stronger. No one can stop them anymore
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>>148248744
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>>148248744
And it still won't have even a quarter of Naruto's artistic merit.
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>>148248864
Based on the numbers from week 3, it should already be at 1.5 billion, and there's weekend 4 ahead still.
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>>148234008
IG easily
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>>148248814
Should just be a few more years until Fujita gets her debut.
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>>148248935
>on track to beat k-on
Faster!
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>>148248876
You can literally make any series look good with these grids.
I could probably do one of Boku no Pico that would look like some art house french film if I had the patience
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>>148249056
congratulations, you finally get it.
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>>148249056
This. It's actually harder to make them look good with animation. Most of these shots are stills
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>>148249117
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>>148249181
none of these have any meaning either
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>>148249181
I want a Kigami and Fujita episode.
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>>148249216
They have more meaning than your sad life
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>>148249181
when will they stop spamming bloom and blur effects jesus. I'd be more impressed if one of you guys could find a scene not ruined by it.
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>>148249256
epic
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>>148249181
>Kyoani fans are making webm grids while other studio fans are still dicking around with archaic still shots

Kyoani just keeps on winning
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>>148249261
See >>148247821
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Pool kino soon.
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>>148249373
>kino
Back to /tv/ retard
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>>148249373
Based KinoAni
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>>148249261
Keep regurgitating these unsubstantiated claims like the echo chamber you are. Really convinced lad
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>>148249488
>unsubstantiated
Just look at the shots?
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ITT, as always
>People who don't know shit about art trying to defend their moeblob pandering shows

Hibike looks nice even better than most anime, but still is nothing impressive. It looks like an anime trying to be a movie.
>Chromatic aberration
>Lens blur
Why? is almost like using blur in video games to hide flaws on texture and polygon count.

Nichijou, Uchouten Kazoku and even Lucky Star is better that any of that Hibike stuff, those shows look like anime and take advantage of it.

Some of you guys should watch more films.

Ufotable is not bad, but that isn't a good example OP
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>>148249738
>>>/v/
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>>148234547
I'm surprised that people still believe that this is an argument.
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>>148249831
Nice counter argument.
Liking things that look pretty is cool, but people should stop putting above the average efforts in a pedestal.

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
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>>148250090
It's not a counter argument it's a request
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Has there ever been a monologue by any KyoAni character as powerful as Jiraiya's death speech?

>In the shinobi world, it’s not how you live. It’s how you die. A shinobi’s life is not measured by how they live, but measured by what they managed to accomplish before their death. And looking back, my life really has been full of nothing but failures. Continually rejected by Tsunade, unable to stop my friend, and unable to protect either my student or my mentor. Compared to the great deeds of the Hokage, my actions are trifling, insignificant things indeed. I wished that I could have died like each of the Hokage. A tale is only as good as its final turn of events. The plot twist. Failures must be seen as mere amusements! They are trials which hone your skills. I lived believing that. And in return, I swore I’d accomplish a deed so great that it would obliterate all of my failures. And I'd die a splendid shinobi. At least that’s how it supposed to go. But with my plot twist, my tale, ending like this. The Great Lord Elder prophesied that I would be the one to guide that revolutionary. A person who will make a great choice that would bring either stability or destruction to the world of the shinobi. I thought I would defeat Pain, stop the Akatsuki, and save the world from destruction. But in the end, I failed that too. How pitiful… How sad that this would be the twist of "The Tale of Jiraiya the Gallant." What a worthless story.
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>>148249738
But Uchouten Kazoku and Lucky Star are not well animated by any means compared to the more ambitious character animation in Hibike. They are even less noteworthy as anime. Ufotable's recent stuff is in essence anti-animation because of far too aggressive digital effects obscuring the drawings. At least in Hibike the postprocessing is done meticulously with a defined aesthetic and thematic ground. It's not overused despite what people here say.
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>>148250364
Can you make one of those with the episode 82 of Shippuden?, its one of the best animed episodes of anime history...
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>>148250492
maybe tomorrow, i've wasted enough time meme-ing today
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>>148247574
It describes it perfectly though. The only emotions Ufotable combat animation awakes is yawning in boredom.
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bones
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>>148239299
These shows have the best art this season
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>>148251107
oh wow so good I especially liked the shot of the clouds
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Define "visuals"

Most things posted in the thread are outsourced backgrounds, if anything scene composition can be attributed to the studios - but even so, most of them are lose collection of freelancers and 90% of "their" shows are infact outsourced to three dozen other studios each.

Ufotable is especially guilty of this. So is A1, Shaft, WIT etc.

So if we evaluate "visuals" we split into:

>Consistency
KyoAni
PA Works (also not all works)
Sunrise (little works, but they CAN if they try)
Ufotable (since they get decend budgets and time, though still fail at

>Animation
Sunrise
Bones
Mappa
ARMS
Dogakobo

>Attention to detail
KyoAni
PA Works

>Backgrounds
KyoAni
GoHands (also they outsource)

>Style
Bones
Toei
GoHands

>Combat
Bones
Pierro
JC Staff
Toei
Sunrise

>Direction
KyoAni
JC Staff

>Character animation
KyoAni
Dogakobo
A-1 (when they dont cut corners)
Sunrise (see above)

>Best animation studio overall by potential
ARMS Corporation

>Best de facto animation studio
KyoAni

>Strongest animation studio
Sunrise

>Most solid animation studio
JC Staff

>not really even a studio aka outsource everything
A-1, WIT, Production IG, Ufotable, Shaft
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No one can really compare to KyoAni to be honest. Ufotable with 3 times the budget of any KinoAni show falls flat.
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>>148245570
Nice washed-out color pallet there. Call me when they can play at UFO's level.
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>>148251665
KyoAni doesnt have enougth purple paint stocked to be able to get on UFO`s level
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>>148246049
By making actual backgrounds and not blurred-out Instagram photos.
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>>148251501
Shit, I forgot how good KnK's visual direction was.
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>>148251727
>By making actual backgrounds

You mean by outsourcing them?
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>>148251731
Ishidate is best current KyoAni director so rightfully got to adapt their best upcomming workwith VEG.

Though he`s everything "anime fags" should hate, since he actually wasnt interested in anime and is pure cinema fag that only got to KyoAni since all live action companies refused him, so he became Kigami`s slave.
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>>148251665
Kyokai no Kanata has very similar colors to UFO's Fate, but it beats it in animation and quality consistency.
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>>148246367
Nope, it's just your average Naruto Shippuden episode.
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>>148251877
That episode had above average budget for sure, the staff that worked on it were no jokes.
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>>148251826
I think you're really misinterpreting what he said in that interview.
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>>148251752
If that's what it takes, then yes.
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>>148251826
What a load of nonsense.
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>>148248744
Naruto is the most popular anime ever since Dragon Ball

Pierrot>KyoAnus
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>>148251415

PA Works has Kazuki Higashigi
They are godlike in backgrounds.
See Nagi Asu, Hanasaku Iroha, Tari Tari etc..
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>>148251914
It's all in-house animators that have been working on Naruto and teaching the new gen since forever.

76-77 was the super display of animation and everything else, 48 is a normal episode.
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>>148251975
Educate yourself.
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>>148251826
Please.
Ishidate pales in comparison to Oshii, Kon, Anno, Ikuhara or Satou.
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>>148252061
none of those are "pa works", its always Studio Easter or Bamboo

PA Works achivement is just that they task them regularly to make backgrounds for them.
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>>148252132
What about "current KyoAni" did you not understand?
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>>148252132
Who is Sato?
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>>148252132
>Satou
Literally who? The garbage director of trash like Tutu and Aria?
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>>148252064
Nope, that shot was presumably made by Hiroto Tanaka, he's not an in-house animator for Perriot. The Naruto vs Sasuke fight had a lot of freelancers as well. Perriot in-house staff is complete garbage.
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>>148251826
He's meh compared to Yamada, Kigami and Takemoto.
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>>148252082
You first.
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>>148252310
>Kigami
>being good director
hahaha hahahah oh wow

Takemoto is great overall, Yamada is good when it comes to adapting character emotions - however as far "kino" goes, Yashidate is the best. And by that i mean not just the picture.
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>>148251501
Too bad KnK was garbage
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>>148252146
Stop.

It was not until Amaburi that Kyoani did their own background art.
They have been outsourcing their background art up until that point too.

But like PA works the Art Director is from their studio.
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>>148252560
You realize Studio Blue is pretty much KyoAni? Its korean company co-owned by them.
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>>148251988
Actually Your Name is the most popular anime of all time. Shinkai BTFO everyone else including Ghibli.
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>>148252728
This. Its KyoAni subsidiary
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>>148252560
Not all backgrounds get outsourced to ST Blue.

>>148252728
>>148252840
It's not owned by them.
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>>148252525
The best episodes from Hyouka, Nichijou and Hibike were Kigami's. He is also their best animator. There's no argument against Yamada being the best series and film director in Kyoani however. Seek help.
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>>148252907
Yes it is.
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>>148252525
You are literally just regurgitating memes at this point
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>>148252907
>It's not owned by them.
Why are you insist on posting false information?

It is owned by KyoAni. Was since the start when it was still called AniVillage.
>Studio Blue (旧:Ani Village、京都アニメーションと業務提携 韓国)
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>>148252940
>Hyouka
Utsumi
>Nichijou
Kawanami
>Hibike
Fujita
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>>148251501
Can you make an Ishidate cinegrid?
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>>148235001
>everything they do lately looks samey
How on earth do you mention KyoAni yet accuse another studio of this in the exact same post?
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>>148251415
What? Aren't Ufotable one of the few studios that do most of their work in-house? Where is this outsource meme coming from
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>>148253097
http://kor.bizdirlib.com/node/93674
Says nothing about being owned by KyoAni.

KyoAni doesn't have them as subsidiary in their site either.
http://www.kyotoanimation.co.jp/en/company/profile/

The only proof people have when arguing ST blue being part of KyoAni is the wikipedia article which has no sources. ST Blue works with other studios as well.
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>>148251415
>Consistency
KyoAni
>Animation
KyoAni
>Attention to detail
KyoAni
>Backgrounds
KyoAni
>Style
KyoAni
>Combat
KyoAni
>Direction
KyoAni
>Character animation
KyoAni
>best animation studio overall by potential
KyoAni
>best de facto animation studio
KyoAni
>strongest animation studio
KyoAni
>most solid animation studio
KyoAni
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>>148254057

This, unironically.
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>>148254057
Based GodAni
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>>148253500
Their shows have blatantly different visual approaches. Ufotable doesn't, really.
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>>148250364
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnSTeSU5dXM
Easy.
I did really like Jiraiya's death as well though.
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>>148254410
>different visual approaches.
like bloom and blurring, or blur and blooming.
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>>148254570
or shaky cam and blurring
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>>148239319
>>148241089
This show was so beautiful. Can't wait for S2.
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>>148255682
based takemoto
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>>148241023
You can't seriously think that Bento cut is better than Kunihiro's work on Zestiria. It doesn't even fucking compare.
https://sakugabooru.com/data/5b28d99d560a50ca781e943fcaf7610a.mp4
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>>148256056
Takemoto didn't direct KnK. It was Ishidate.
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>>148256524
That was a Takemoto episode.
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>>148256629
Oh, my b.
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>>148246937
Season two better make me orgasm from the visuals alone. I demand there be 60FPS hair flips and fabric movement throughout the entire thing! I NEED MY HUSBANDO TO BE AS BEAUTIFUL AND GORGEOUS AS I KNOW HE IS!
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>>148257355
WHEN KENNY THROWS THAT KNIFE AT HIM THERE BETTER BE FUCKING GLITTER IN HIS BLOOD AND IN HIS EYES!
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>>148257355
>>148257462
Shut up, Urifag.
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