Will you vote for best girl tomorrow?
I hope trolling won't rob us of her BD picture.
Who /NVA/ here?
Just like I voted for her bf a few months back.
i always want to protect it i am just hoping for the chance to protect in on the 28th in the VN.
Oh fuck, Monpei is November? Not that I don't like them, but fuck me, if there is three or more great people having a birthday, I don't fancy us losing one. I mean Pham nearly lost. Pham!
Good! We will protect her, believe me. I will do my best.
One thing I love about ML is all the girls are insane, and it doesn't take long to come out.
While the hungry can protest their food, that doesn't change the fact they are still hungry.
How hard are you hoping for a secret Beato?
She doesn't need to bother, because if it's not at max, it Will be. But if she's being cute or caring, it's your heart that has a boner.
Even if she is a secondary, Gretel will always be the main heroine of my heart
I want to take Vivi, Lise, and Inghild to the amusement park and let them run around being normal girls for a day.
I kind of hope we get some anime Beatrix mannerisms from VN Beato. I know she's kind of an unrepentant psychopath and I wouldn't want much of her there, but just a little, you know?
Anime Beatrix is better and worse then LN Beatrix. LN Beatrix is far worse towards the end then anime Beatrix, racking up a much higher kill count and torturing Iris instead of just gloating.
Why is she such a hard core authoritarian:
Anime Beatrix and LN Beatrix aren't that different. Anime is more overtly evil because it's a visual median while LN Beatrix can be a bit more subtle. For instances, in the LN, Beatrix isn't flustered at all when she sees Theo driving Lise's MiG (thus confirming Lise is dead). She smiles in fact, so she doesn't really care. She really is the most evil person in the story, even if she is right about the BETA. Goes to show what half a decade in the stasi will do to someone:
>Anime Beatrix and LN Beatrix aren't that different.
Big boy bait for a big boy like me.
None of the material you provided really strengthened your position. She smiles because she is proven right or succeeds, not evil or sadism. You may have taken your time looking for evidence for your claims, but your "evidence" barely proves anything.
Walter thinks she's salvageable though:
『──お前は俺たちと一緒に東ドイツを、何千万もの命を救おうとしている。お前は価値のある行いをしている！ 誰に決められたわけでもなく、お前自身で選択してだ！ そしてそれは欧州を、人類全体を救うことになるかもしれない』
Iris was tortured; here's the excerpt.
Yes, and Walter dies because of his delusion.
We all know Iris was tortured, the original post made it seem like it was claiming Beatrix herself tortured Iris.
>Yes, and Walter dies because of his delusion.
Delusion? I don't think he was deluded, he just pursued the wrong angle to convince Beatrix. He accidentally stepped on a landmine, how was he supposed to know?
>like it was claiming Beatrix herself tortured Iris.
Third party here, if she just didn't physically use her own hands but made her subordinates do it instead why does it matter if she was still in charge? That would actually make her look worse, isn't it her thing that she's not afraid to get her hands dirty along side her grunts rather than pushing the tough jobs onto others?
Because maybe the point of Iris being interrogated wasn't physical damage? Irisdina was a card Beatrix's hand intended to used in talks with the rebels.
Her whole lead by example thing is when she's in combat, most of the torture cases she's involved with shows her leaving the scene relatively quickly, I don't think she ever had a taste for torturing people or being around those who are being tortured.
Walter could have stabbed her through the cockpit after grabbing her. Beatrix was expecting it and really couldn't have done much, but instead, Walter cuts one of her arms off.
Walter wasn't just risking his life by sparing her, but the lives of all the other 666th and people of East Germany. He should've gone for the killshot, and ended the Civil War right there and then instead of trying to talk to her. Whatever the case, he definitely should not have dropped his guard when he thought he was getting through to her.
>Walter wasn't just risking his life by sparing her, but the lives of all the other 666th and people of East Germany. He should've gone for the killshot, and ended the Civil War right there and then instead of trying to talk to her. Whatever the case, he definitely should not have dropped his guard when he thought he was getting through to her.
I'm going to marry Yui, Irisdina, Inia and Cryska. And no one is going to stop me.
the only one who was too far by that point were the rebels. it is their stupid plan of holding hands not her plan to turn DDR into new Sparta that doomed Europe.
your post only says that she joined the STASI and werewolf battalion to get the connection to UN. She wanted to turn DDR into Sparta like state, solely focused on fighting the BETA with the support of the UN.
>Ace of Hearts
On a side note, shouldn't we include Sharon in nee-sans? She also has those tendencies, and goes ara ara a lot. Maybe she's that kind of slutty/drinky nee-san who falls into otouto reeking, whereupon she plants a kiss on him for "always being there for her".
only if they are paired with dark hair.
no but i would defend myself if some stupid moderates attacked me and tried to handover the Europe to BETA. She refused Walther because she knew that holding hands and singing happy songs wouldn't work.
Holding hands with Beatrix and forcing her to get along with everyone. Or else I bully her again in bed.
>"Hoooooh? You'll have to hit harder than that if you want to make me cry, y'know."
>"Use your fingers, it'll sting more that way"
>"Ara ara, you weren't prepared for this kind of war."
And so ends the attempt to spank Beato. Defeated, cushioned in her bosom.
When is Sharon's birthday anyways?
Maybe they'll pretend celebrate since Martyrs would have been out by now if not for delay.
You anti-Katiafags sure are salty.
It could just be a past memory, her scene with Yuuya. Her and Yuuya used to be a thing. A major thing.
No, he should have killed her. It was too risky to leave her alive, and had he just destroyed her cockpit, the war would have ended and they would have been able to focus on fighting back the BETA. He risked it all for someone who'd become committed towards evil a long time ago.
I'd rather not end up in the hospital. An offering of new ribbons seems a more effective strategy at getting her attention.
Why is Sharon so wonderful?
Why is Sharon so ignored by ML media?
Why does November have so many good boys and girls?
November 1, Katsuki Motoko (Kimi ga Nozomu Eien)
November 3, Komaki Sakidaiko (Muv-Luv Unlimited The Day After)
November 4 Hisaya Ozawa (Muv-Luv Alternative)
November 7 Munakata Yoshikiba (Muv-Luv Alternative)
November 11, Nastassja Ivanowa (Total Eclipse)
November 22, Walter Kruger (Schwarzesmarken)
November 23, Beatrix Brehme (Schwarzesmarken)
November 11, Gate soldiers (Muv-Luv)
November 14, Rebecca Rindt (Total Eclipse)
November 20, Bernadette Le Tigre de la Riviere (DUTY -LOST ALCADIA-)
November 23, Tomohiko Abe (Muv-Luv Alternative)
November 25, Iwaya Sakaeni (Total Eclipse)
November 26, Lida Canales (Total Eclipse)
November 30, Mariko Amemiya (Total Eclipse)
I want Irisdina and Beatrix to make me dinner together. And then have both of them for dessert.
Why do they look better with braids?
All Werewolves bite.
So that's where I heard that from. I generally don't trust my ears because whenever I watch shows, when I think I hear someone I've heard before, it's only about half-3/4 right.
Eh at least we got Stella for the Yuuya. Oh and Yui and Cryska. And Cui. And Inia. Maybe even Latrova.
What kind of picture will she get? Sitting in front of a cake being sad since she got no friends?
Wow that fucking hurts.
Maybe they can have a Beato in a dark room sitting alone with her lit cake, and a shadow/washed out side image showing her teenage self also sitting alone with her birthday cake. Birthday cake she make for herself because no one would throw a party for her or even remember her birthday.
You know what you must do, princess carry Beatrix to a surprise birthday party.
Well that's a toughie, really. Yui has some 'friends' in the IRG, but like the one she's closest to, it's actually family. Iwaye is not actually her relative, but she feels he is her uncle regardless, so not a friend. Kyoko was her aunt or cousin or something. She doesn't even get to make many friends since she's IRG, and her extremely abrasive attitude wins her no favors.
Beatrix is very close with her squadron, but again, a lot of them are her surrogate family, and dependency cases. And she's largely burned bridges with many of her old ones like Walther. Her best one she ever had used to be and is now again her worst enemy who she is conflicted about wanting to kill or not.
So I guess when it comes to actual friends, they both lack them, for want of a better word.
I want Beato to feed me her cake
mouth to mouth
The stream is up!
Remember, like always, to post screenshots for our less lucky fellows.
stream is up! Vote for best tier girl!
Neither would really end well for you.
>Beatrix is very close with her squadron, but again, a lot of them are her surrogate family, and dependency case
Don't mix compassion with charisma, because she doesn't really give a fuck about the Werewolves. She's using them, and they're much less likely to screw her over if she's not being a dick to their faces about it.
Because November is best month!
Easiest vote ever.
Damn shame about Walther. I couldn't risk Japfags doing the right thing and voting for her so I could vote for Walther. That margin of victory is much closer than I would have preferred.
Going down with this ship, boys
Monpei hasn't been a thing since 2013. It was mostly a troll vote that became something of a tradition anyway, because back then, you'd only have 1 or 2 winners rather then 3. Baidu and 2ch would organize votes to swing it towards the Gate Guards to troll the waifufags. Monpei was one of the big reasons why Beatrix didn't win a poll until 2015. It's not as funny and dilutes the anger and troll fuel now that they have 3 winners.
I get that it became a tradition, I'm just surprised since they kept winning. Didn't Monpei win last year?
Normally I'm fine with trolling, but denying Beato was one step too far. But I guess they found the best solution of all - more art.
I'd say today was a bretty gud stream. Very new and exciting stuff. Sadly no art competition or random Kouki stream-of-conciousness afterstream but ah well.
That poll was a little too close to call today.
What was Beatrix's 2015 birthday picture?
Thats actually a legitimate question, meme notwithstanding. Its a major change of events which is pretty exciting. Its from the Iris route so we now know its gonna have significant differences which means the Lise route is gonna be very different from the norm too, no doubt the most different.
It's nice one of our burning questions/worries was at least somewhat answered. Though now Im just more intrigued, at how Iris got out of that one.
Secret Beato route!
Has a nice ring to it!
They said it loud and clear in the stream. The spoiled section is from the Iris route, and it involves Lise failing to arrest Iris, and the 666th trying to bail before the Werewolves arrive. The Flashback shown here >>148237034, lets us suspect that Theo prevented the arrest and/or Lise got cold feet, but Lise isn't joining the rebels, that much is clear.
Its honestly much more likely than a rebel Lise route from a logical point of view. Unless Theo smacks her in the head with a bat so hard she gets transient global amnesia it'd be a tough sell. But maybe not impossible depending on how Theo handles things.
I'm with >>148238842 it just makes me even more intrigued.
I don't speak jap, but recognizing stock phrases isn't that hard. Its easy enough to recognize what the topic of conversation is when the werewolves are mentioned and get ready to sortie is uttered.
Oh yeah? Well I'm going to impregnate Iris after I marry her.
pick one. joining rebels and winning only buys her little time before they all get chomped. the only long term good end for her and theo would be if they join STASI and win.
That or elope. Be a fitting bookend for how their journey got started for them to head west together at the end. Maybe settle in Britain or America. Lise in a freedom bikini.
If you "accidentally" spill warm (but not too hot) tea on teen Iris' dress while on a date, will she catch onto the fact that it wasn't an accident or stay oblivious?
Will she take off the dress in front of you?
>Iris breaking her perfect angel image
>Lise behaving like a true believer in the stasi
Nah, Katia gets to keep her inspirational moeblob image, she's the only one who's image doesn't get changed, so no real raw deal for her.
>>Iris breaking her perfect angel image
That could be broken in 3 seconds if Theo actually bothers to learn about her.
>>Lise behaving like a true believer in the stasi
I'm pretty sure she's a believer in Beatrix.
No Theo would be way more distraught if Lise was dead. And that Iris isn't naked probably just has her tank top on. I doubt she was taken prisoner either its more likely Lise bailed and is gonna rendezvous with the 101st.
It's a little sad that she never gets to break out of the imoutozone. I'll honestly be a little surprised if it turns out she gets to have a romantic end.
Well, duh. She's the only one that really applies to, since Lise was never in the imoutozone from the time they first met.
A stream from a few months ago IIRC.
>it would've been nice if her affections got reciprocated.
Nah, the whole him falling for Iris by Neptune wouldn't make any sense then.
h-here. you can have her. take good care of her *wink*
What should I do to get subtle anger and righteous indignation out of teen Iris? I want to hear her teeth screech and maybe watch her bite her lip until it bleeds.
With the Iris route they'll no doubt give her a more direct final confrontation with Beatrix than it being Theo by proxy. If so then Lise could be Theo's last fight, both scenarios would have more impact than the normal circumstances anyway.
With the Lise route who knows. Iris could be the 'big bad' instead of Beatrix, or maybe the focus will be more on Axmann.
I don't believe you.
>Nah, the whole him falling for Iris by Neptune wouldn't make any sense then.
Theo doesn't have an exclusivity contract like other age MCs. He moved on from Lise, he can move on from Iris.
>I don't believe you.
That's great. The LN and anime depict Katia's route, which means her route it the canon one. There's no real leeway here, even if it means her route is a stealth Irisdina one.
>Theo doesn't have an exclusivity contract like other age MCs. He moved on from Lise, he can move on from Iris.
But to Katia? Think about this anon. He is only interested in busty blondes.
I'm well aware of that much, you don't need to remind me there.
>But to Katia? Think about this anon. He is only interested in busty blondes.
He liked her enough to have her invade his lewd dream about Iris as well as Lise, anon.
I was gonna say this >>148253148
The crush he developed on who he thought Iris was over the relatively short time he didn't think of her as scum is something a guy like Theo can move on from after her death as he's already done it before and to a more extreme degree.
But >>148253273 this. He'll probably latch onto the next busty blonde he sees rather than Katia. Honestly she should find a better guy to pursue if she knows whats good for her.
Hey, there were some Katia choices there too. I'm just saying, having Kouki turn around and say that those were all just to troll Katiafags
is something I expect at this point, butis something I'd rather have a source on rather than hearsay.
The anime was Katia's route, the anime was apparently adapting the LN, which means that the LN is Katia's route.
Katia's route is the canon route. This is further evidenced by how hard they shill her in merchandise. Why would you put a fairly unpopular girl on everything otherwise? It goes beyond the moe explanation.
I'm not sure what we're actually disagreeing on here. All I ever said was "maybe there'll be a noncanon, more romantic end in her route but I wouldn't expect it" and you said Kouki confirmed she was permanently imoutozoned, which suggested to me that he already shot down the possibility of that. I asked for a source and then all you told me was that the anime and LN have her imoutozoned, which is true but isn't related to what I was asking about. Are we on the same page now?
Stop this meme. Lots of fans of other characters like Katia too.
>and you said Kouki confirmed she was permanently imoutozoned, which suggested to me that he already shot down the possibility of that.
It was a tongue in cheek comment using Kouki as the target since he is a recognizable character. Does "moot agreed, don't bother him about it" sound familiar to you?
She was imoutozoned in her own route, which is where the canon part comes from.
>stop this meme.
It's not a meme. Katia is not popular with the Japanese fanbase, and the imouto crowd is with Lise over there.
When I say "fans of other characters", I'm talking exclusively relative to SM characters, nobody else.
No, Katia is probably the least hated character in SM. She might not be the favorite of most people, but she's the most "liked." Just look at any of the polls a couple of months ago where you could choose multiple girls as your favorite and see that she got the most votes, vs polls where you only got to choose one and she was only fourth or fifth place.
>which means she has broader appeal.
Which is why her merchandise is not selling well. Listen buddy, as much as I would like to say "I give up, you're right, it's a meme." I can't. I won't say she's hated, but she does not have a fanbase that's comparable or worth mentioning in the same conversation as Irisdina, Beatrix or even Lise. If I recall, a secondary like Gretel is more popular than her.
The Japanese just find her bland when compared to the other girls, and out of place in SM. Unless this whole time you were talking about the west, in which case, well ok.
Oh you. Lise has always been ahead of Katia in the Japanese fanbase in every regard. She's higher placed in every popularity poll, has several times as many hits on pixiv and has ongoing appreciation threads on 2chan with thousands of posts between them compared to the few hundred the katia thread got. Westerners on twitter or whatever other site who have only seen the anime proudly voicing their limited personal experience with the material don't matter at all. Even then its only a matter of time as more stuff gets translated and the west starts to reflect the eastern fandom.
I don't hate Katia, but some of her western 'fans' are intolerably retarded shitters. Damn shame too.
At the end of the day, what matters is that Katia is a cutie and I want to
She and Beatrix are they only ones with this eye shape.
Would older Lise basically look like a blonde Beatrix then?
Only when she's doing her innocent routine.
Yui, Cryska and Inia are my waifus. Irisdina can join us too.
A Yui bunny figure in the works? Today is a good day. Time to set aside some money so I can do a day 1 preorder for her. Now I just wonder if she'll be a 1/7 or 1/4 scale.
>in process of adding another one
What God has made cannot be unmade. And since Irisdina is also my waifu, it works out just fine.
This is true, but at the same time its fair to say 'tsurime' is also a part of who she is. Her joy when she's with Theo is genuine and his presence no doubt makes her feel like her old self, but there is a lot of pain that she's in that she's bottling up beneath the surface and sparing him from seeing. Theres a reason nip fans often refer to either 'white' Lise or 'black' Lise when talking about her.
Hardship and suffering cause adaptations in a person, and when one is forced into a certain role that goes against their natural disposition it makes for an unstable mental cocktail. In this regard it also makes sense for Beatrix and Lise to develop some similarities in both behavior and presence, including the look in their eyes.
Iris wouldn't allow such bullying to occur with impunity.