Find a flaw.

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He's lying on it.

>>148170721
when you grab his tail

I feel bad for Raditz. His dad was a badass, if I'm recalling correctly he actually was retconned to be the original Super Saiyan. His brother Goku is obviously the strongest Saiyan of all time. And there is Raditz, who loses to fuckin Piccolo for gods sake

he didn't become relevant

>>148172920
hey, at least piccolo is the strongest z-warrior that isn't a saiyan

>>148170721
He would've been a way cooler Vegeta than Vegeta.

>>148172920
Episode of Bardock is dumb and not canon.

>>148170721

He jobbed to pre-power creep Goku and Piccolo.

>>148170721
Peaked early on, had more potential as a scrub who overcomes his scrub origins and destiny

>>148170721
A Saibaman can kill him.

>>148170721
He died

>>148173899
And nobody even bothered to revive him. Tragic

>>148170721
He jobbed in order to rev up the saiyan arc.

>>148170721
They should've made him more relevant like Vegeta, seeing how he is Goku's biological brother after all.

Despite the shitty memery of this fanbase, Raditz, Nappa, Zarbon and the Ginyu Force were all fun, neat, interesting strong villains who get the shaft in popularity. Each of them lay fucking beatdowns and were cool looking.

Fuck Toriyama for underusing Goku's actual blood brother. Fuck him in general for underuse of good characters, fucking senile old jap twat.

Why don't people in the DBZ universe wear pants?

>>148170721
One of the weakest Saiyans ever. Even the human characters eventually surpassed him.

Black Goku should have been Raditz. That would have saved Super. Prove me wrong.

you can't

>>148177890
Word

>>148170721
I can't. 10/10

>>148178666
Wish he were Goten

>>148178504
Better range of motion.

Yeah, let's go with that.

>>148177106
Vegeta probably cared even less about him than he did about Nappa

>>148170721
He was so weak that even a dumbass barbarian race like the sayians could grow saibamen as strong as him from the ground.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG6DRdbGkMw

>>148182230
Considering Senzu beans and Zenkai are a thing it doesn't matter how weak a saiyan was. Just look at Goku who went from 400 to 8000 because of Kaioken training

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>>148172920
>>148173355
>Super Saiyan Bardock
>Caring, Loving Father Bardock
>Time Breaker Bardock

Bardock is ruined as a character. What was interesting about Bardock is that he was an unrepentant murderer who realized too late he was on the wrong side and died for it. Trying to retcon him as some super duper powerful badass or a hero is completely missing the point

>>148172920
I think the bigger disappointment is the fact that he was weaker than the saibamen.

I mean he must have slacked off harder than Gohan after Cell Saga.

>>148170721
How long until Toriyama brings Raditz back in some form? He's been scrapping the barrel for a while now so it's only inevitable.

>>148183716
Bring back Nappa too so we can know what a bald Super Saiyan looks like

Raditz should replaced majin buu

i always wonder how things would have gone if Raditz had lived

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>>148183658
Yeah, episode of Bardock could've been cool if it was longer and gave Bardock an actual arc. Like the first tv special did.

I still think there's potential in a Bardock focused prequel series, focusing on him traveling the galaxy, gradually changing from a cold hearted mercenary to a hero, inspiring the legends that the saiyan race.

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>>148189338

Raditz is so cute

>>148183697
Those were the last saibamen, the creme of the crop, and while he was technically equal in power, he was a lot deadlier.
Not to mention if he had been able to go oozaru, he would have been 15k.

>>148189669
yeah, saiyans only grow stronger over time as long as they continue to fight

>>148181864

Didn't Vegeta outright say that he didn't want to revive someone as weak as Raditz?

>>148177890
>Ginyu Force
>victims of memery

First off, they were intentionally goofy. But that doesn't change that they were absurdly strong and the fact that Goku crushed them was just showing how far he had come.

>>148178504

Vegeta always wears pants.

>>148190126
>But that doesn't change that they were absurdly strong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTi34vE1VpA

One of my favorite battles

>>148189669

>Oozaru vegeta was 180,000, stronger than everyone but frieza first form

>Somehow loses on earth

>>148190210

Nappa would have been at 70,000 too, stronger than everyone but Ginyu on the squad.

>>148190210
To be fair, imagine you're being attacked by three or four angry rats just as smart as you, and one of them has the strength of a badger.

>>148190210

He only transformed after taking lots of damage/using up energy

>>148190324
I honestly feel confident that I would destroy four rats and a badger. As long as it's a regular badger and not one of those honey badgers.

>>148190210
He lost because Saiyans are weak as shit in Oozaru form. Literally just cut off the tail. Yajirobe beat Vegeta.

>>148190210
Vegeta got rekt by the kaioken kamehameha AND creating the fake moon dropped his energy levels by lot (it was even stated).

So he was far from his max 18k powerlevel.

>>148190479
We're talking human smart rats and badgers though.
Working together.
Basically, its like Jurassic world if the other raptors never turned