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It's not over yet! We still have oct 5. Post something, ANYTHING!

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It's not over yet! We still have oct 5. Post something, ANYTHING!
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>>148145854

can i post erika?
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>>148145854
Posting best Seacat.
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ERIKA HIJACK LOL
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<Good.>
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THIS IS NOT WHAT I MEANT BY "ANYTHING"!
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>>148147520
You know you like it.
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>>148147520
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>>148145854
useless OP, useless thread
Natsuhi best seacat.
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Every thread until we reach the Golden Land.
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It couldn't be helped.
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golden land tonight

beato
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>>148148192
They might not be able to cook, but it doesn't say anything about boiling!
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>>148148227
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>>148146886
this post is objectively wrong
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>>148145854
2nd season of Umineko was the best part of the anime
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>>148148484
I did enjoy it the way the new studio portrayed the characters, and art style was okay, but I think they rushed through the final episodes a bit.
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>>148148484
Never
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umineko
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>At my grandfather's
>can't call anyone or use the internet
>only website that works is 4chan for some reason
>just woke up and there is no breakfast
>can't find my cousins

FUCK
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>>148149234
Just find the closest person you suspect to be a tranny and confess your love.
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>>148149429
I don't really want to confess to my aunt.
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Make way for a better ending then the shit we got
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>>148149792
Well if you and everyone else die in a explosion just know that you could have stopped it.
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Lambdadelta is literally me - intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor
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>>148149899
*snorts* heh kid, what do you know about powerlevels?
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He did nothing wrong
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>>148149930
*nukes you and the entire kakera you're in*
heh... this is like taking candy from a baby... WHICH IS FINE BY ME!
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Fuck Erika, post candy loli
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>that moment when you realized that you're smarter, stronger and all around better than anyone
>can destroy universes with a mere thought
>are a super <cute> and <pop> idol for everyone
>but no matter how powerful or cute or smart, your love won't pay any attention to you

Hold me
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I want to fuck Lambdadelta!
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Is this the Erika thread?
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>>148150184
How am I supposed to do both those things at the same time without relying on some sort of paranormal force? My bed is quite far from my computer.
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>>148150438
>that moment when a bookworm BTFOs you
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>>148150540
Dude, cmon. Laptop for max comfy shitposting.
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The fighting game recently got announced for localization.
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>you'll never be a cute shota sorcerer that gets to play around with all of the witches
why live?
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>>148150184
Candy Erika!
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bern
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>>148145854
HALLOWEEN FOR MARIA
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>>148151144
IT'S MAGICAL GOHDA CHEF
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>>148150703
I cri literaly evry tiem
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>>148150703
Battler pushed her
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>do something stupid
>tulpa smiles in a twisted manner and does the ahaha.wav
>mfw my tulpa aspires to become a 'real witch'
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>>148151622
Dude you so fucked up.
Do you fucking think we're joking when we say don't indulge your tulpa too much?
Now you will suffer the consequences.

You dun fucked up.
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>>148151622
RIP some dickheads on a secluded island somewhere
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>>148151622
Teach her that the purpose of magic is to bring happiness to all
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lambda
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>>148145854
I want to deito Lucifer.
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>>148149835
What is this from?
Or is it just another fake screenshot
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>>148153959
After Credits of the episode 8 tea party.

Shame the author gave up with the series before making a followup to it
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The final night is approaching.
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>>148154481
Good, let's destroy this pointless thread until next year
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As someone who has yet to read the VN Umineko threads are always a trip to read through. Its almost as much of a clusterfuck as the anime.
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>>148154595
hehehe...

crap we are at it again ? right?
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>>148154609
What are you talking about? There's no clusterfuck going on here
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Nipa*
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>>148150703
It appears Maria isn't a playable character, so my idea for a Maria vs Rosa deathmatch is kind of ruined.
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>>148155236
Who gives a fuck about Maria
The real problem is the lack of Kinzo
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>>148156076
>Who cares about Maria
Get the fuck out. Who the fuck cares about some rapist and senile man
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beato
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Oh finally i was planning to download okc again

good thing an eng translaton is coming out and going to hold out on that instead
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>>148156817
You can use Sakurako as Ange.
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We're dead as fuck tonight. Where has everyone gone to?
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>>148159411
the golden land
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BRB jumping off a roof
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Whats the best umineko song, BMG or not?
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>>148159574
Discolor
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Every day until that anon gets his deito with Lucifer.
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>>148159574

this color >>148159736
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>>148145854
Remember that when the clock strikes 12, everyone but Eva and Battler die.
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>>148159736

dat color
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>>148159574
LixAxil
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>>148150518
I want to fuck this piece of super-paper.
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>>148156817
Go back to ball scratching you half-assed headless stuffed doll
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>>148159574
Lastendconductor
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>>148159574
that is a very difficult question you just asked anon
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>>148159574
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAKkw71ff3U

I have it set as my cellphone ringtone.
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>>148159574
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ9D05ll2Rw

Fake red shoes being the signature go to GOAT theme for Umineko
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What was your most hyped Umineko fight?

For me it was this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF60yOU0h48

The more subtle nuances of what is actually going on here in terms of meta stuff didn't really occur to be before a re-read, but MAN the Maria-Rosa relationship shown here is fucking great, not to mention the sudden surprise of OF FUCK IT'S PISSED OFF WITCH MARIA
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuysjbuQ3p0&list=RDJmnwu2gEG-E&index=27
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>>148160786
USHIROMIYA KYRIE CANNOT SAVE BATTLER
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>>148160786
DIE TO DEATH

THE GREAT EQUALIZER IS THE DEATH
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>>148160797
but thats from touhou
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>>148160786
The fight between Leviathan + Belphagor vs Rudolf + Kyrie is still my favorite in the series.

It shed a lot of light into how thoroughly fucked up Kyrie was. It was also the first time that Ushiromiya family members managed to successfully fight off the fantasy creatures and survive. It also had some great music playing through the whole thing.

A very close second favorite was Battler vs Beatrice at the end of Episode 4 with dreamenddischarger playing.
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>>148160881
That was a goof moment but I think it was ruined somewhat by the setup of episode 6, which began with the wedding and started with Battler trapped in a logic puzzle in that room.

So you already knew he was going to lose to Erika in the logic battle which meant that moment didn't have quite as much impact as it could have since you knew it was coming.
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>>148160786
Escape from the closed room battle.
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Very convinient that this thread was up rn.

Should I play/watch hirugashi before umineko? If yes, is the anime good enough to watch or shoud I just go for the VN?
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>>148160786
There were a lot of problems with Episode 8, but I have to admit that this was just about the most fucking satisfying moment of the series.
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>>148161432
The Higurashi anime is pretty good. Don't even think about watching the Umineko anime.
It doesn't matter in witch order you watch/read them.
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>>148161432
The Higurashi anime was somewhat decent, but the Visual Novel is far superior. I'd recommend reading it.

Umineko has several references back to Higurashi. They aren't really important or anything and were more like "easter eggs" for people who were familiar with Higurashi, so you could read Umineko without reading Higurashi first.

That said, I'd still highly recommend reading Higurashi first. Then read Umineko, then read the Umineko manga. You can also watch some of the Higurashi OVA's or the Outbreak movie which involve alternate "what if" scenarios Ryukishi wrote but never included in the Visual Novels.
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>>148161432
Go for the VN, since it's better.
Higurashi's anime is acceptable, but the VN uses some narrative tricks that the anime simply cannot do.

You can read the VNs in any order. They have vague ties between them but they're not significant at all. They're also wildly different.
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>>148161601
>>148161583
Thank you, will take this into consideration when deciding.
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>>148160438
She killed herself because of her boyfriend.
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>>148161432
If you cant stand VNs like me then go for the manga,its superb
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>>148161764
>goes on a pleasure cruise just to kill herself
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>>148161797
Ange's soul sister
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>>148161583
>Don't even think about watching the Umineko anime.
>He hasn't watched the Umineko anime made by damedame
Also
>It doesn't matter in witch order you watch/read them.
>in witch order
>witch
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>>148161725
Also; Umineko is shit, don't read it. Higurashi is far better on every level
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>>148161920
Go away, Bern
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>>148161797
Erika is such a slutty little pervert. I would marry her and then make love to her in all 49 positions of the kama sutra.
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>>148161920
(You)
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>>148161920
Goats will forever goat, it seems.
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This is how Umineko fags actually live.
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I wish there was more porn of Erika.
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>>148163024
I wonder if he regrets that Beato one her having a Big, throbbing dick and all
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>>148163024
No. That is how Sysadmin lives, and don't you dare taint his name. He is a hero to the lost souls of /g/
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>>148163084
But Beato doesn't have a dick. I mean, that's kind of the point of the entire series.
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>>148163082
Not exactly porn, but a bit of lewd
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>>148159574
Where can I find these kind of umineko music cds?
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>>148163150
Okay but she doesn't have a Vagina either
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>>148163184
To be fair, any picture of Erika is at least bit lewd.
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>>148163299
You are oh so correct
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>>148163299
>>148163376
You guys are lewd.

Not as lewd as the thighs in this image, though.
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>>148148919
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>>148163882
>>148163376
>>148163299
>>148163184
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>>148164714
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>>148164864
Ahhh my christian eyes
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>>148164714
The lewdest
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Can anyone remind me how Battler escaped from the room he locked himself in?
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>>148165189
Shannon climbed out of the window
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>>148165189
Magic
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I just love her line here
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>>148148484
What is this from? I thought there wasn't a 2nd season?
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>>148165189
love
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>>148165189
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlyqr5nbw74
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>>148165773
There isn't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7WbPjMTdzk
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>>148165773
It was from the Pachislot game. They have all of the videos up on youtube if you want to see them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyUSt7OTC0U
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>>148165773
Is there something wrong with your head. Sure, it's not on Nyaa, because fucking DaiZ and his cronies have a hand in everything, but it's at the usual place. If you don't know where that is, then you need to lurk more.
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>>148165189
you know why

>>148160786
ep 5 end fight magic battler vs erika was awesome
ep 5 was the peak after all
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>>148165694
I can hear it.

>>148166012
>you know why
Will we ever escape the memes that he brought us?
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>>148163282
She does in the golden land.
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>>148165189
He actually had an evil persona called "Black Battler" and he switched to it so the one inside the room was no longer Battler but Black Battler instead
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>>148166229
This.
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>>148166229

That's retarded as fuck so I guess that's what happened
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>>148165189
I like how he spent all that time in the logic error and never thought of the obvious solution of breaking a hole in the floor and escaping into the room below.
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>>148166229
Ryu, what are you doing here!?
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>>148166450
>He didn't realize that Battler was merely pretending to be retarded so Beatrice would revert to her original shelf
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>>148166450
Based Battler was playing 12th dimensional chess and had a dozen ways to easily escape from the logic puzzle whenever he wanted. He was just pretend to be trapped so that Beatrice would regain her memories and come to save him.
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>>148166677
>>148166528
Which is CLEARLY not true. Battler is incompetent and could never stand a chance against Erika. Only by pulling nonsense bull that is personality crap, could Beatrice actually cheat her way to a win.
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>>148166528
>>148166677
Makes sense, Battler usually does handle problems by just doing nothing and hoping someone else deals with it for him.
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>>148166773
>doubting the Golden Sorcerer
>ever
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>all these people still discussing trashineko after all thes eyears

Get over it, it's an awful VN and even worse anime.
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>>148166450
The point was to make it seem impossible for him to do, that's the reason he got himself in the logic error in the first place.
Breaking through the floor would just clearly point show that Battler broke through the floor.
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>>148161264
I still have no idea what was going on with two Beatrices and the synonymous love battle. Episode 6 was where things started to fall apart anyways.
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>>148166921
Might as well bring up Hiroshima vs Pearl harbor if you're that desperate.
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>>148166960
Not if he did it in the closet and used wire to pull something over on top of the hole after he went through.
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>>148166980
>I still have no idea what was going on with two Beatrices and the synonymous love battle.
I'm sorry anon, I don't mean to be rude, but you got terminal dumb.
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>>148166528
>>148166677
>Battler makes his daughter act like her mother so he can fuck her
>Kinzo makes his daughter act like her mother so he can fuck her
>It's okay when Battler does it because he is the MC
Bravo R07
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>>148165890
Aah this is one of the best scenes ever made.
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>>148166980
>Beatrice dies
>Battler makes a clone but it doesn't have any of her memories
>Her love for Battler when he was in trouble and she was the only person who could save him finally reignited her lost memories restoring her powers.

>all according to keikaku.
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>>148167089
Except the whole point was that while Kinzo couldn't make his daughter inherit his dead wife's soul, Battler's magical powers allowed him to surpass Kinzo, letting Beatrice's soul enter the body of her heir.

Basically it's okay because Battler is a better sorcerer than Kinzo and his magic succeeded.
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>>148165890
>the president of Zimbabwe was in the cousin's room.

I will never not laugh.
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>>148165890
Holy shit how did I not see this before
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Can anyone explain to me how Umineko is not the best work of art in all human history?

I've still not seen any good arguments for this.
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>>148167041
It was mostly about Beato herself rather than Kanon and Shanon which was pretty straightforward. Why did Beato have to go through the duel and then just drop out midway?

>>148167158
So Beato has the same memories in both cases? That makes sense. Thanks anon.
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umineko has many flaws, but i still love it even to this day and it's one of my favorite pieces of fiction
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>>148167448
Beato had to go through the duel for the same reasons Kanon and Shannon had to go through the duel. She dropped out midway cause Battler got bored and wandered off to go have logic errors with Erika.
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>>148167447
Episodes 6-8 exist.
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How about going back to cesspool /jp/?
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>>148167761
Yeah, and episodes 6-8 are some of the best literature ever created.
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>>148167776
Show me one (1) inconsistency in Uminekos plot.
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>>148167869
Absolutely not.
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>>148167761
But the climax of episode 8, and the entire series, was Battler beating the shit out of his girlfriends cat while she sat around writing novels and laughing to herself, how can you not love that?
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>>148159574
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWDpCAt2LGI
>tfw this starts playing in episode 7
Why can't I hold all these EMOTIONS?
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>tfw Maria finds the train tickets on Rosa's coat

The moment my heart broke.
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>>148168321
>episode 7
I thought this was only used in EP2?
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>>148168372
Aww fuck i don't remember the specifics. Which episode was this?
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>>148159574
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_ylNrVEvzY

Made me cry desu
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Krauss should buy 4chan, I'm sure he and his incredible business sense would bring it back afloat
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>>148167761
although the Will parts of ep7 are great.
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>>148168602
>Let's launch a 4chan server ON THE MOON
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>>148167920
Bern isn't fucking Lambdadelta constantly. I mean, even with Bern's personality I still find it hard to believe she could pass this <pop> and <cute> girl up, even just for a few weeks.
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>>148168670
Will was a shitty mary sue.
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>>148168504

Either 3 or 4. Sometimes I believe Rosa is a good mother that really wants the best for Maria but then I remember scenes like that.

Natsuhi best Ushiromiya anyways.
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>>148168775
Learn what this word mean, you can say that he was boring because he was too skilled but that's not even close towhat Mary sue means.

And it doesn't change the fact that the Will/Lion dynamic made ep7 bearable despite how terrible it was.
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>>148168737
Oh shit I think you broke me. That's a real big fucking inconsistency there
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>>148168919
Rosa is a complicated, mentally unstable mother and giving birth to Maria was both her proudest achievement and her biggest regret.

Rosa was a pretty shitty mother but I think I think the series made it clear she did love her daughter, even if she kind of hated her too.
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>>148169031
Lion was the one who made it interesting. Will was just too perfect; it was boring.
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I think Erika's stockings are pretty sexy. Anybody else agree?
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>>148165890

holy fuck

>the president of zimbawe

>mfw i'm ok with this explanation
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Is this one of those "Don't even bother trying to understand what's happening" type series?
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>>148167447
>Umineko is not the best work of art in all human history
Riven exists.
I'll see myself back to /v/.
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>>148170633
mein bruder
riven is absolutely god-tier
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are we celebrating tomorrow too?
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>>148170488
It's the opposite. The series encourages you to keep thinking and mocks those who give up on trying to understand it.
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is this the best main theme ever or what
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul2C_5MAg1E
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>>148169208
She frequently left her autistic daughter alone just to get some dick.
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>>148170488

it's the opposite the series calls you a faggot if you read it without trying to understand it
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>>148171098
Yes. She was a horrible mother but she still loved Maria and felt incredibly guilty about the fact that she also resented and hated her at the same time.
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Another year, another anniversary.

Thanks for being here, guys. I love you.
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do we all agree that Dreamenddischarger is the best theme in umineko?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDPJuAxZaOo
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>>148172277
all of its remixes are quite good too though

>>148171739
Sometimes I really miss the good ol' days
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10 more minutes for me. See you guys in golden land.
Battler did 9/11
Angeburger is shit
Witches don't exist

Peace out losers
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>>148169208
Well, Rosa is a bitch but when you read her backstory you can't do nothing but feel bad for her.

For me, the whole point of Umineko always was that all the real characters were sick enough to do the murdering, but deep down they were still good people, with lots of issues (which is linked to the fact that truth is an abstract concept and it's because of that that Battler didn't want Ange to learn the truth)
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>>148172373
>that goat
o i am laffin
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>>148165890
Renall is great. Did anyone read his novel?
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>>148172501
In real life there's no black and white.
Everyone has their sins and everyone has their good parts. It's what makes us human.
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>>148172345

>tfw i played umineko too late to shitpost about it while it was still going
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>>148172589
Yes and that's why Battler wanted Ange to not learn the truth, because if she learned she would only remember the black parts
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>>148169557
>Will was just too perfect; it was boring.

Will is an hobo, he's just a good detective.
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>>148172696
Even Erika called him out in it, what a fagget.
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>>148171663

I mean, the second half is generally believed to be dog shit, but at least it has several very well written characters.
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>>148173086
>the second half is generally believed to be dog shit
Only by people who only cared about the mystery.
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>>148161264
Battler managing to pull the "Kyrie saves me" is unexpected exactly because of that though.
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Shit I almost missed today as well. Goddamn it.
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Never forget.
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>>148159574
This is never stop being my favorite Umineko track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U209xHIvW8

I'm too much of a sucker for piano music.
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>>148174664
>People are still complaining about that.
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>>148174664
Never forget!
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Reminder that there are still people who believes shkanon
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>>148174981
Reminder that their are still people who can't get over Shannon being Kanon being canon.
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How does Higanbana stand up against Higurashi and Umineko? I've been holding off on finishing EP8 because I don't want the ride to end...
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>>148175121

Reminder that there are still people thinking that something never stated in red is canon
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>>148166960
>>148166677
>Maria/Battler
T-that's too much!
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>>148175297
>There are people out there who only believe in red

Oh imma laffin
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>>148175341
Is it?
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>>148175297
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>>148173583
You can just call them goats anon.
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>All umineko threads on /jp/ turn to fetish shit
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>>148174664
>people still wonder why Black Batler is the actual truth
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>>148175621
Yeah, that's why Eva meet him years later to discuss the truth.
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>>148174758
And why not? It's some of the worst writing he's EVER done
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>>148175239
It's quite different in that there's no mystery element. And it's like a collection of interconnected short stories. There's continuity and reoccurring characters but there's no greater plot.
It's kind of a nice change of pace, I'd have loved a single Higanbana story but this way is pretty fun too.
Tone wise Higanbana takes the dark comedy of the previous titles and turns in up to 11. It's fucking dark, and super funny at the exact same time. So if you liked that about Umineko, Higan is all about that.

So in the end it isn't nearly as ambitious or powerful as the others but it's still very fun and worth the read.
Definatley finish Umineko already though, everyone keeps stopping on the last episode when you should really just finish it. There's a riddle solving mechanic that's a blast to play(was for me anyways).
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>>148175607
To be fair, when your dealing with fucking goddawful written garbage, of course the focus is on waifu's
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>>148175815
How so? There was plenty of justification for why nobody noticed it. People just keep ignoring it.
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>>148175923
Basically it was misinformation which amounts to ridiculousness, which is never explained.

Namely; the servants go along with it. Specifically, Genji and the doctor. Why did they go along with it? Knowing all they did? None of their previous characterization suggests they would. These characters functioning in stupid ways is the only "plenty" of justification there is. And that's shit writing that I have no time for.
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>>148176017
>caring about whydunnit
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>>148175823
Raped by rabbits until the end of time is a pretty gruesome fate.
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>>148176017
Genji and Nanjo felt guilty for hiding Yasu's past from them.

There's also the fact that Yasu had several years of experience dressing up and acting like a girl even before "Kanon" was created. Expecting the self-centered Ushiromiya family members to notice the similarities is like expecting Battler to see through Beato's acting in Episode 3.
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>>148176094
"whydunnit" is basically the entire point of the series.

Umineko doesn't give a shit about how things actually happened, the whole focus of the story is understanding people and their hearts and why emotions make people do dumb crazy shit.

It's why most people think the story is shit, because anybody looking at it from a third person view and a solely logical viewpoint would find it all retarded.
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>>148176179
Is it just me or is Ryukishi's work getting more sexual over time? Nothing really in Higurashi, double-incest in Umineko, tons of rape in Higanbana. And RGD there's lots of candid talk about sleeping with the enemy to survive and all of the female characters sleep around.
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>>148176231
>Genji and Nanjo felt guilty for hiding Yasu's past from them.
Guilty enough being a motive for fucking murder? To go along with all of it? To hide all they did?

BULLLLLSHHHIIITTTTT


>>148176243
This.

The ONE thing Umineko (arguably) has going for it is some of the characters. Take that away and there's SMALL BOMBS, and nothing else.
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Without love, what cannot be seen?
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>>148159574
Worldenddominator
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>>148159574
this tbqh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D123K-N-Ukc
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>>148176448
Shit writing
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>>148176448
Yasu's magical shape-shifting genitalia.
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>>148176448
Complex motives.
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>>148176809
TIME TO DECIDE!
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>>148176343
Not really. Higurashi was also insanely lewd. K1 was talking about his dick and sex, Mion smuggling him in her bosom, then there's a part in ep 8 where Rena is tied up in BDSM ropes. Or in ep 6 where Rena says that K1 ''assaulted young girls'' clearly implying he raped girls when it was just shooting a BB gun at kids.

The thing about Ryukishi is that he's lewd but he's never explicit. Like the Higanbana rape is never rape but just very lewd perversion. The teacher only makes Marie wear panties and a backpack (iirc) and that other teacher just draws a shota naked.

It's not told but it's obvious.

RGD is weird since it bullshit with the whole women being whores by not saying they're prostitutes except at random times. The one time I think it got ridiculous was when Leo basically raped Rose. In Season 2, he just goes ''you shot a gun and broke the promise'' then pushes her down and has his way with her. I'm into rape but wow did this come out of nowhere. Especially for a protagonist.

And as for Ryukishi's new work, well, how can I say this...

https://youtu.be/lPCbvXywKjY?t=2m15s

https://youtu.be/f8B9zKfHZRY?t=3m17s

Iwaihime is super interesting
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>>148176935
Did anyone actually get this without looking at hints. 3 fucking culprits ffs

There was some Van Dine rule against this.
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>>148177089
I remember sitting with my gf and solving it. We got pretty far without hints, but we fucked up in our reasoning. First thinking that the culprit could have been one of the dead parents, and then deciding that couldn't be the case and instead of focus on Battler.

It was pretty great desu, really loved that part of ep 8.
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>>148175815
It wasn't even necessary. He had unreliable narration shit set up, all he had to say is that it was one person everyone knew was just one but the narration created by Beatrice/Yasu is perverting it.

Instead he went full small bomb crumpets as the official explanation.
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>>148175239
To be honest I really like Higanbana. It doesn't have any real mystery to it. Instead it's a series of small short stories that deal with people facing all sorts of different forms of bullying at school.

There are also the school yokai, spirits who eat people's souls and many of them engage or assist the bullies or victims in order to get souls.

It's actually very dark and depressing but it still has moments of hope. Some of the stories were definitely better than others, but all of them were good in their own ways.

I think it's probably the epitome of Ryukishi's writing if only because since each story is so short, it really let his better attributes and abilities as a writer shine, while at the same time being able to avoid some of the problems that arise from his style.

I'd highly recommend it.
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>>148177188
Actress girl and running girl are best stories.
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>>148176978
>Iwahime
Haha what the hell I have to read this.
Funny you say that about Leo, I never saw it as rape. I think Rose really wanted it to happen. But obviously that's up to speculation on the meaning of rape. I remember him being surprised by Rose being a virgin as well, because it was the first time his portrait made a not so lackadaisical face.
Higurashi seemed to me to be more ecchi than serious, if there's a difference.
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Shit, did we have seac/a/ts threads yesterday? I checked the catalog and didn't find any. Am I too late to join the party? There's still a few hours left where I am.
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>>148171112
It calls you a faggot if you understand it too.
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>>148177578
Rape is very vague in knowing where is the line on whether she ''wanted it'' but I view it as she didn't want it because a bit later, it's revealed that Leo purposefully knew why she had done what she did and took advantage of that situation. This is why Rose goes somewhat moe apeshit on his ass going ARSGHDHF YOU TRICKED ME.

And yeah, tricking someone into rape by forcing them down and having their way with them is in my eyes rape. I think it just really took me by surprise because I wasn't expecting a sex scene, especially by Ryukishi considering his track record.

>Higurashi seemed to me to be more ecchi than serious, if there's a difference.
Higurashi, at its heart, is a harem story.

I mean, tell me if you haven't heard this one before.
Guy goes to a new school, is surounded by a cute selection of girls with different personalities. There's the moe, the tsundere, the silent loli and the caprice haughy loli. If tragedy didn't happen, Higurashi would be a regular harem story.
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>>148177089
Nah I had to take a couple hints. But otherwise I had the whole paper & pen out and took an hour to figure the thing out.
The ending was super satisfying for me. Instead of solving the last of the purple logic I just had a thought that for all Bern's boasting it was going too easy. So I came to guess, out of the last of the possibilities she's just picking the worst possible outcome for Ange.
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>>148177089
I did it without any hints. I rerererereread the story over and over until I got it right. Felt great.
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>>148177292
The actress girl and running girl were great.

But the Chuuni girl was my favorite character and had my favorite story - the one where she was trying to bring her dead friend back. That story was basically just Ryukishi writing about himself and BT and trying to get over his best friend's death. It reminded me a lot of when my best friend died in a car accident when I was a kid, so it hit pretty damn close to home.
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>>148177089
It was literally just figuring out which cousin was involved and then adding their parents cause there was clearly multiple culprits.
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>>148177188
>I think it's probably the epitome of Ryukishi's writing if only because since each story is so short, it really let his better attributes and abilities as a writer shine, while at the same time being able to avoid some of the problems that arise from his style.
Except the last one. That was fucking retarded.
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>>148168488
You mean EP1. And I'm pretty sure it was reused again much later so EP7 sounds about right.
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Now that the dust has settled, can we all agree that Featherine is the most powerful character ever written?
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>>148177815
>just Ryukishi writing about himself and BT
Yeah I felt that vibe. I didn't like the ending even though it was optimistic. The devil shouldn't have gone back on his deal.

Have you tried not saying greeting words for a full day? It's insanely lonely. That was a high price and to have your friend as your teddy bear would've been suffering.
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>>148178141
She gets rekt by Ryukishi so no
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>>148177754
I think she clearly liked Leo. And he knew it. It was in a heat of passion, it wasn't a betrayal for purely sexual gratification. But Rose was pretty damn emotionally vulnerable at the time, she was just psyching her self up to blow herself up moments ago. I wouldn't say he tricked her. If she said no at any time I think he would have stopped.

Harems, Higurashi's setup included, are more silly antics don't you think? What I meant before was the sexual tones were getting more serious. From cute ecchi shenanigans to rape and serious sexual discussion.
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>>148178222
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>>148178141
You mean Demonbane
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>>148177872
It wasn't my favorite story, but I thought it was reasonable that Higanbana would be unhappy when her friend got killed. She's a selfish little cunt who likes seeing people get hurt, but when she takes a liking to someone (not even just eat them) she gets mad when that person gets "taken away" by someone else.
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>>148178141
She's pretty strong, I'll give her that.
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>>148177872
The last one had a good idea but didn't have emotional punch to it. Going from an emotionless girl to a girl who is just furry was a good origin.
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>>148146886
>Scat

Correct.
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>>148178921
Like Battler himself.
He's too pure for Yasu.
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>>148176358
>Guilty enough being a motive for fucking murder? To go along with all of it? To hide all they did?

They were going along with it at first because they were guilty, it was nothing more than humoring a delusional child. Only Genji went along with the murders because hes such a robot.

I'm not certain on this but I'm pretty sure Nanjo didn't know about the murder plan until the day came, and at that point he was being bribed with the gold AND threatened with the bomb. He had to go along with it. He even tells Yasu in episode 3 when hes about to be shot that he had a sick grandchild, so he probably either needed the money or was having that held over his head too. You could come up with lots of explanations.
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>>148178921
Battler was a roided faggot like his dad that fucked bitches and left them, piece Battler is just Beatrice's dumb ideal
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>>148179002
>Only Genji went along with the murders because hes such a robot.
I usually don't shit on Umineko but this is pretty bad writing. Why didn't Kumasawa or Nanjo tell the truth about Yasu in any episode? They know how crazy the motherfucker is and it's the only way to save their life. Why would Genji kill himself for Yasu, too.
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>>148179062
>Battler was a roided faggot like his dad that fucked bitches and left them
Nice headcanon, Battler is PURE
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>>148179115
Better question, why did Genji dislike Beatrice in ep 2 and kill a butterfly?
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>>148179115
>Why didn't Kumasawa or Nanjo tell the truth about Yasu in any episode?

The episodes aren't real, they're just tales written by Yasu. That's just how Yasu assumed they'd handle the situation.

They were being threatened with the bomb anyways, so they probably didn't wan't to mess with Yasu too much. Say they told the rest of the family, and they then subdued/killed Yasu. Then what? The bomb is still going to explode.
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>>148179224
>Say they told the rest of the family, and they then subdued/killed Yasu. Then what? The bomb is still going to explode.
They could go turn it off instead of waiting for Yasu to kill them AND the bomb exploding.
Or maybe they shouldn't have given Yasu the fucking bomb in the first place. Why the hell would Nanjo, Genji or Kumasawa go work on an island that could blow up at any moment? I know I wouldn't.
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>>148165940
I love that scene in the VN.

Maria deserves bullying, and Erika does it gloriously.
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>>148179062
Battler spent pretty much his entire life living with a single woman and never left the house.
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>>148179305
>They could go turn it off

They probably didn't even know where the bomb was, besides Genji. If we go by Our Confession Yasu just used the shrine explosion as proof that he had explosives readied, and that was enough.

Genji was probably the only person who new about the bomb.
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>>148179305
Don't ignore the first sentence.
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>>148179409
Weren't Nanjo and Kumasawa here when they told Yasu about the bomb?

>>148179348
Why did nobody recognize him despite his picture probably being on TV 24/7 after the incident? How did he even get official papers and shit?
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>>148165890
Duct tape is too op
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>>148179115
There is a whole bunch of shit that goes unnnoticed. From the readers perspective, everything seems to be carried out competently. Later on Ryukishi "reveals" there are all these traps and things just lying in the background that nobody noticed.
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Reminder that R07 is fucking with us with the "Solution". Not only is Shkannon not the culprit, but the mere notion of Shkannon existing is preposterous. I've created an entire youtube series explaining how the official explanation is false, and suggesting the most likely scenario, you can check out the first video here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHMta4YbjSM
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>>148179505
>Why did nobody recognize him despite his picture probably being on TV 24/7 after the incident? How did he even get official papers and shit?

He was living in Hachijou's house the whole time, do you not remember?
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Is the anon who drew this here?
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>>148179505
Ikuko literally hid him in her room for 50 years. I don't think he had official papers or even spoke to a single person that entire time besides her and Eva that one time.
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>>148179627
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>>148179659
Hachijou should have quickly understood it was Battler then. Why would she hide him and take advantage from his amnesia?
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>>148179484
I need more Ryukishi lolis in my life.
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>>148179224
still doesnt explain why Battler didn't chose to not want to escape the bathroom
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>>148179745
She was a weird, creepy reclusive lady whose house smelled like cat piss. It's not really surprising if she wasn't keeping up with the news.
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>>148179745
He figured out quickly on his own that he was Battler, he realized when Hachijou mentioned the Rokkenjima incident to him. However, due to his identity separation issues he didn't want to be known as Battler. He said himself he tried to perceive Battler's memories as his own, but failed. Hachijou probably just chose to respect his decision to live on as a different person.

Maybe you should reread episode 8? This is all said pretty plainly.
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>>148179775
Xiaolan was really fun. That God she survived in the end, I was worried.
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>>148179745
Because she's almost as batshit as Yasu. Her backstory is her family literally disowned her and exiled her as far away as they possibly could, then did their best to forget she ever existed because she was so insane.
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>>148179834
Why did he change his mind 50 years after then
fucking dick
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>>148179348
That wasn't Battler that was Ikuko, "Battler" died, don't you know, it doesn't matter thats not a common definition of death, 2 deep 4 u you heartless goat.

Anyway, "Battler" fucked many bitches before he "died" on the island, he was a real playa in his time. Takes after his father you know.
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>>148179775
I want to lick the fuck out of that bellybutton.
I want to rape her to the point where she screams, with all her energy she would have to beg me to stop for it to end.
I never realized how much fun raping a deaf girl would be until I saw her.
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>>148179909
He says himself at the end of episode 8 he regrets his decision to put off telling Ange, it took him that long to work up the courage to talk to her. He was afraid that if he spoke to Ange about the past "Battler" would resurface and "Tohya" would die.
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>>148179325
Pretty much everyone in Umineko is made for bullying
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>>148179984
Send a fucking letter you asshole
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>>148180031
That would probably just fuck with Ange more than it would help her.
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>>148180023
>Pretty much everyone in Umineko is made for bullying

Sorry but this seacat is too cool to be bullied.
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>>148180198
You can't bully the dead. But you can make fun of his corpse.
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>>148179920
Bastard. You don't know who you're messing with.
I'll stop you and protect all the cute young girls.
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Can we all agree that this was the apex of Umineko?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lb0xcfFvtA
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>>148180198
>has six toes

FREAK! FREAK! FREAK!
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>>148180297
Thats not the end of episode 3, or the court of illusions, or the witches tea party of episode 5, or the tea party of episode 7, or the end of episode 8.

That party was really good though.
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>>148180297
>not sign here
>not jumping out the window
>not Battler punching that cunt Bernkastel
>not the ending of Umineko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0CT_RhsoSA
>not Tea party ep 7

>>148180314
It would be funny to pull out all his toes except for that weird extra toe.
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>>148178141
Isn't she just the representation of the author? Obviously characters in a book can't do anything to the author
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>>148180358
>the end of episode 3
wew lad

I'm really sad that I didn't get into Umineko when it was at its peak. Would have loved to see the reactions to episode 3 as a whole.
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>>148178431
Isn't Azathoth more powerful?
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>>148180404
Someone post that cap of anon breaking his keyboard
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>>148180434
Demonbane has killed Azathoth before, and that wasn't even demonbane at his strongest.
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>>148180198
Genji did a pretty good job of bullying him into drinking himself to death.
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>>148179115
Genji went along with the murders because he felt bad for Yasu and one of his best friends (Kinzo) had died. Kumasawa probably didn't want to tell Yasu because she felt it would do more harm than good. In fact, if we look back at Episode 3's opening it shows Virgila talking with Beatrice 2 about using magic to restore the broken vase. I think we can interpret it as Kumasawa using "magic" to help Beatrice 2 cope with that situation. In the same way, Kumasawa probably wanted to do the same thing with Yasu, though she did have the best intentions, it hurt more than it helped. As for Nanjo, well, if I could speculate, he probably felt guilty too about Yasu's situation. Perhaps he felt that if he told Yasu the truth, he would be responsible for it, because he was the person responsible for restoring Yasu back to life. He probably didn't know how to tell Yasu, or terrified at how he would react.

They all only tell Yasu the truth once they are forced to.
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>>148179627
Ah. The reject anything that discredits my theory theory.

RED HERRINGS EVERYWHERE
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witches aren't real, even in umineko
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>>148180297
Nah the episode 4 tea party.

>Was the fact they stood in this red garden a protest for truth? But in the language of flowers, roses are passion, not truth. The flower for truth is a something, that flower is blue.

>big magic fight
>dreams end discharger

It was all downhill after that, who could've known it would go that far downhill though?
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I'm currently re-reading Seacats, what does 07151129 mean? Is there any special meaning behind this number?

This puzzled me when I first read Ep 3, and now that it appeared again, I don't really know where it comes from.
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>>148180686
Wasn't it the number for the card with 1 billion yen on it or something?
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>>148180384
The ending was fucking shit, having a unique song didn't save whatever the fuck that was.

Also why wasn't Battler nervous about falling off the tiny boat?
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>>148180686
It's basically the key to the puzzle.

Can't exactly remember what it means, but it's essential to the puzzle.
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>>148180584
Episode 5 was the best episode though.
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>>148180686
I think it's Sayu got remorseful for killing people even though they solved the epitaph so he left the password for the bank vault
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>>148180743
Its not essential for the puzzle, its just the PIN number to the billion yen card.
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>>148180297
What's the name of the track playing? I forgot.
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>>148180741
You've clearly never loved or have been loved.

Ryukishi was right when he said the girls would probably like the ending more than muh cold logic boys.
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>>148180741
>Also why wasn't Battler nervous about falling off the tiny boat?
Because it was an illusion. Follow the actions of Battler, you'll see he does fall off the boat.
He closes one eye, then both and then falls off.

The FALL FAAALL actually had a purpose.
The weather was still shit. Battler almost dropped his golden ingot and then fell into the water. Lack of oxygen actually causes brain and memory damage which explains how Tohya became the way he is. If anything, it's a miracle Battler even survived.
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>>148180765
Episode 6 is the best in my opinion. I liked it a lot, especially when I re-read it. I really enjoyed the love duels and the logic error shenanigans. Also the Beatrice comeback at the end of the episode was very well done.
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>>148180297
For me, it'd be Battler and Erika's marriage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_dgUf8VHd8
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>>148180897
I feel like episode 6 is really underrated.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiHA7Aw2GiE

Where did it all go so right bros
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>>148180908
That was the lowest point not the highest
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>>148180897
The love duel was great
This song is so catchy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHTzYN96YBQ
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>>148180965
>implying
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>>148180981
>not the song version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgBz88f3Dh8
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>>148180981
Episode 6 had a lot of great tracks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_ylNrVEvzY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbhPq4pGn8M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfIsbeR6nWw
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>>148180853
Happiness of Marionette
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>>148181053
Wow, you just posted like some of my favorites in a single post. Jesus. I didn't realize they came from ep 6.
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Who /Far/ here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nivz895rGYc
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>>148180570
But obviously the character who got the most screentime and character development of any character and who the game outright states is the culprit can't be the culprit. It has to be this irrelevant side character who had almost no screentime and barely mattered for most of the story. Basic story structure? What's that? Checklists based on the colors of words are obviously the most important thing when trying to understand a story.
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>>148181108
My only gripe with Shkanon is that it requires Genji, Kumasawa and Nanjo to be completely retarded or soulless
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>>148180908
I wish I was married to Erika. I'd let her spin me around until I threw up.
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>>148181108
No you see, you don't understand. Ryukishi is a GENIUS. He wouldn't have wanted people to figure it out, so he put fake endings in the manga. But you stopped thinking and went for the common sense solution. Goats all of you.
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>>148181256
>mfw magic actually exists and we were fooled all along
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>>148181388
WITHOUT LOVE IT CAN'T BE SEEN
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>>148181170
I wouldn't say these guys are soulless, it's just that they probably didn't know how to approach it. Genji was always a very cold guy, but he did try to help Yasu in whatever way he could by helping him out with the schedules for Shannon and Kanon. I'm not sure if Nanjo was close to Yasu in the first place, and Kumasawa tried to help Yasu by contributing to her "magic" delusions, even if it wasn't what was best for Yasu.

On top of that if they ever told Yasu about who she really was, there was always the chance of her trying to make a claim of being the Ushiromiya head, which would complicate things a lot when they got all the adults involved.

They are at fault, yeah, but I don't think they are soulless.
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Hotarubi no Tomoru Koro ni ever gonna be scanlated? The prologue was bretty cool
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>>148181552
I am not qualified to love.
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>>148181170
Genji did some pretty awful shit in the backstory parts. From apparently telling Kinzo that his daughter killed herself in order to hide Rosa's involvement to helping Natsuhi cover up murdering a maid. The guy just keeps both following orders and making horrible decisions on how to handle things.
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>>148181636
Then you are not qualified to live.
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Would Ange?
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>no umineko doujins from c90

Seriously, can't find any scans at all. Feels bad
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>>148181026
I like the piano more than the song version
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>>148182393
It's dead, and no one cares about Trianthology. It really is a crime that there aren't more doujins with Erika. The only decent one was the one where she gets gangbanged by goats.
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>>148182454
>tfw no goat kun battle shounen manga
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>>148182196
I would Ange and loli Ange at the same time with Maria.
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>>148178454
I mean the last one with from the first night. The one with the magical bullying.
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>>148182196
I would SAMPLE Ange.
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>>148179115
>Why didn't Kumasawa or Nanjo tell the truth about Yasu in any episode?
It's explained in the manga.

They think they are playing a FAKE murder mystery. Eva thought the same think in ep 1.

Once they realize stuff has happened it's either too late and they get killed or they go along with it oping to survive.

>>148179224
>The episodes aren't real, they're just tales written by Yasu. That's just how Yasu assumed they'd handle the situation.

The episodes are always treated as what if. That's why you get stuff like R07 telling people that "Had Battler touched Shannon stuff in Ep 1, he would have found the truth"
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>>148182454
Trianthology hasn't really been out long enough for doujins to show up. That being said, I'm not expecting any regardless.
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>>148182393
Umineko was never that popular in Japan, so it's not surprising.
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>>148182196
Would Ange what? Get sad when her parents died? Get bullied like a little bitch at school? Be so socially awkward her invisible friends would stop hanging out with her?

Yes, yes and yes.
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>>148183126
>go along with it oping to survive.
Objectively a bad choice
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>>148183128
That and Iwaihime. I am an EOP so at least I don't have to worry about reading either.
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>>148183204
Well, A download for Tri was just posted yesterday, so maybe that will spark some interest in it.
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>>148183186
Do you think the people who told Yasu she was an incest baby, with a body that can't love and a rapist father ALL at the same time after Kinzo died have common sense?

Even Yasu realized she didn't need to hear any of that shit.
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>>148183288
Wrong page, wops.
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>>148177089
Cmon dude, that wasnt even hard.
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>>148172627
>tfw I played Umineko early enough to experience the height of 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 spoilers

Spoiler time was always the craziest but always the best.
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>>148179834
>However, due to his identity separation issues he didn't want to be known as Battler.
>Implying its not because Black Battler exists and he doesnt want to believe he's a murderer
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>>148177089
>There was some Van Dine rule against this.

Van Dine is bullshit anyway. Knox just tries to ensure that the mystery is fair and solvable for the reader. Van Dine forces arbitrary restrictions onto the author based on some image of an ideal mystery.
For example,
>No love interests.
>A servant can't be the culprit.
>No crime's other than murder.
>No long descriptive passages.
>No accidents or suicides.
>The motive must be personal.
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>>148184281
Ah I wrote this.
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FUCK RELATIONSHIPS
FUCK MEN
FUCK WOMEN

I only need you guys
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>>148146154
>>148146886
>>148147191
>>148147393
>>148147520
>>148147632
>>148147679

He said "anything" not "nothing"
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>>148183932
This. I thought it was pretty clear that Battler and his family had something to do with the murders and this is why Tohya had such a hard time remembering and dealing with his memories of being Battler. Because Battler was a murderous mother fucker.
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>>148184649
Ep VII Tea Party is basically what happened, Battler had no hand in the murders.
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>>148172627
You will never experience the crazy theories of /a/ and /jp/.

You will never see all the stupid memes.

You missed all the george is fat jokes.

You will never see the hype, rage arguments, and trolling during the 3-8.
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All of rifyu's 4komas of Umineko are considered canon.
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>>148184717
>Battler had no hand in the murders.
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>>148184815
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Umineko makes me want to get into drinking tea.

What's a good tea to drink while reading and discussing mysteries? Earl Grey?
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>>148185023
If you like black tea, Assam tea. Or Ceylon if you want something a little smoother. Otherwise, high-grade sencha. All loose-leaf, of course.
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Why the hell hasn't R07 made another master piece yet?

Has he forsaken us?
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>>148184717
Ep VII tea party is "The truth in some way", its what Bern was going to say, so she probably changed something. (Which is probably Kyrie talking shit about Ange and how she never loved her, doesnt seem like something Kyrie would do when about to die or kill)

But the truth is that Battler is the one who killed everyone, and he obviously survived because Yasu told him about the bomb.
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>>148185189
Wasn't it described as "infinitely close to the truth"? So it's technically not the truth
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>>148185130
He wanted to take a break from When They Cry. He's been doing smaller stories.
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>>148185130
Well, the death of the one who originally inspired him to write Higurashi and Umineko might have something to do with it.
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>>148176179
>Raped by rabbits until the end of time is a pretty gruesome fate.
pretty AWESOME if you ask me (if we're talking about those rabbits....)
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>>148185232
I just remember Bern talking in EP8 how if Ange handt interrupted her, she would've finished saying "This is all the truth in some form."
But really, this is Umineko, this phrase could just mean some bullshit story that never happened that bern created just for giggles and said this is the "truth" with that fucked up definition they made through the whole series.
I just hope that the phrase only implies that Bern showed the truth but changed things a bit.
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>>148185189
Aren't the personalities of the characters on the gameboard determined by the gamemaster's interpretation of them? Like how Kinzo did a 180 after Battler took over.
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Does anyone know who the hell Erika is in the real world? Did she have anything to do with the island or was she just some random person from the future trying to solve the mystery?
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The thing to remember is that Tohya believed that the truth of what happened on Rokkenjima, the truth written in Eva's diary, would mentally destroy Ange and drive her to suicide.

And logically the only truth that would affect her so badly would be a truth that showed that her family members were the murderers or had participated in the murders.

At the very least Rudolf and Kyrie did some pretty terrible stuff on that island, enough that Tohya believed it would drive Ange to suicide if she knew the truth. And it's very likely that Battler did some fucked up stuff too, which is why Tohya had so much trouble dealing with his memories of Battler.
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>>148185189
>But the truth is that Battler is the one who killed everyone, and he obviously survived because Yasu told him about the bomb.
And he also learned that its a bad idea to try to escape an island under a storm.
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>>148181105
Right here. Far and Discolor are the best.
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>>148185412
It explained all this in the opening to Episode 5. when they introduced Erika. In fact, I believe the story had been mentioned earlier back in Episode 4.

On October 4th there was a young girl having a birthday party on a ship near Rokkenjima. She fell overboard and was never found.

Bern decided to use her as her piece, playing with the idea that she had washed up on the shores of Rokkenjima rather than drowning and dying. That's also why she had her swimsuit with her.
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>>148185592
I'll give Ryukishi credit - he is very good at getting you emotionally invested in his characters, even fairly minor ones.
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>>148185614
I meant like in the real world, without witches or anything. So she just died on the same day as the conference?
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>>148185517
>And it's very likely that Battler did some fucked up stuff too, which is why Tohya had so much trouble dealing with his memories of Battler.
I'll bet Battler actually nurtured hate to the Ushiromiyas since no one gave a fuck about his mother's death and the despicable actions of his father.
I'll also bet that Eva never killed Rudolf or Kyrie, she simply failed to operate the gun like the newbie she is, tried to find George, found him dead and then run away pathetically while blaming herself for never being able to do something. The reason why they're both death is because Battler backstabed them!
He then found out Yasu was still alive, and played the victim, got the information about the bomb (or maybe he was included in the scene the whole time) and then got rid of her, tried to escape in a hurry because of the bomb about to go off, drowned and ended up as Tohya.
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>>148185701
Yes. Erika Furudo was just a girl who fell overboard on a boat, a couple of miles from Rokkenjima, was never found and was presumed dead.

At some point some of the Rokkenjima fanfiction authors started to include her in their stories where they tried to unravel the truth about what happened on the island.
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>>148185780
That sounds reasonable. While Yasu was Beatrice and set everything up, including the bomb to destroy the island, by the time it went off Kyrie, Rudolf and Battler had already killed everybody but Eva.

The Chapter 7 Tea Party was the almost truth, though even then Bern was hiding the fact that Battler was a participant, waiting until her game in Chapter 8 where the "Reader" discovers the truth of what happened on Rokkenjima.
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https://youtu.be/sW74O0Yvdqo

I love their laugh at the end.
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>>148183126
>The episodes are always treated as what if. That's why you get stuff like R07 telling people that "Had Battler touched Shannon stuff in Ep 1, he would have found the truth"
Better question is why couldn't he tell just by looking?

Because he's not a womanizer like >>148179062
& >>148179917 try to make it seem.

Real question is why didn't Battler's dad notice? He's a player.
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>>148185592
This building looks Umineko as fuck
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>>148186589
Needs more wainscoting
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>>148184717
>Ep VII Tea Party is basically what happened
Except it wasn't. The real truth isn't meant to be known, but the story (especially ep 5 and natsuhi's false trial) meant to show that it wasn't just 1 person or group.

Closest approximation going by all the plots and stories is probably along the lines of:
- yasu started her game (with real or fake deaths)
- the adults got serious and solved the riddle
- yasu gives up, but adults bicker and fight until violence and death break out for real
- near the end it's team eva v team kyrei (both women probably wronged the other at point since the outbreak)
- eva somehow wins out or goes to kuwadorian
- battler/yasu somehow survives. eva doesn't know about them, but survives in kuwadorian.

final judgement:
yasu/batter: 2nd or 3rd degree murder. lived. but yasu died or committed suicide (before or after the boat doesn't really matter). battler downed at some point but survived.
ushiromiya adults: 1st and 2nd degree murder. all died except eva.
servants: complicit with yasu (at least until shit got real).

Culprit:
No one. Everyone was fucking stupid, crazy, or complacent (or incompetent) except maybe Maria. She gets a pass.
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>>148187006
Yasu sent the gold to the relatives of all the accomplices using that mail trick that would delay the delivery until after the conference, Ange was one of them, meaning Kyrie and/or Rudolph were also accomplices along with Kumasawa, Nanjo, and Genji.
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>>148187006
So, basically, EPVII TP with some minor differences.
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>>148187617
Rudolph and Kyrie being accomplices (or maybe even becoming the main perpetrators) isn't surprising considering Ange's reaction when she found the truth.
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>>148187006
>except maybe Maria. She gets a pass.

I like to think all the adults were in some kind of Mexican stand off. Maria managed to find a gun and started playing with it and accidentally shot someone. Ultimately she is the one responsible for everyone dying.
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>>148187617
Yes. Obviously Rudolf and Kyrie were in on killing everyone from the beginning. that's why they got the paycheck just like the other people who were in on it. Eva must have written about it in her diary and if Ange ever finds out the truth she kills herself.
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>>148187006
>'t. The real truth isn't meant to be known
Actually it is. We knew what happened to that day.
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>>148187759
Actually Rufolf and Kyrie had no reason to kill anyone until Krauss died.

Kyrie said herself, once Krauss bite the dusts, they no longer have any way to exchange the gold.

>>148187617
Yasu sent money to everyone as an apology for what she planned to do.
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>>148187712
Welp. You can thank beato/r07 it's left as catbox.

>>148187645
Well I can only take from what i've read.

I don't full out deny bern's 7. Just the part where it's all battler's family's fault. Bern just wrote that in to troll ange.

>>148187617
Yasu sent cards to accomplices of her own plot of the riddle. The request and full intent (whether faking or really killing) of her plans is left in the cat box, but going by how battler treated yasu when they left the island it's obvious she wasn't the primary cause of the deaths. Battler wouldn't have forgiven her let alone talk to her if she was.

>>148187759
She would have killed her self even if it wasn't at that point. She just wanted to know and die.
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>>148188042
I should have phrased it that they were intended to be accomplices, but the epitaph was solved the first night of the conference so Yasu didn't go through with the original plan, but she had already sent the code by then.
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>>148178141
Isn't she's Ryukishi's self insert?
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>>148185130
WTC 5 soon
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>>148189675
You said that several years ago
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>>148187006
Read the manga, it's literally shown what the truth is.
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So whos the best waifu
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>>148190116
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>>148189724

it shows you the "truth" but it forgots to say it in red
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>>148190242


muh diq
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>>148189694
Isn't Ryukishi said that he may be write new WTC series in the future?
WIth TRT and Iwahime is already on sale and his only works now is Hotarubi, I think he will starting to work on the new WTC soon
Or Hotarubi is actually a WTC 5 in the first place
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>>148190343
I can appreciate Ange's bottomless skydiving hobby.
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>>148190456
gross
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>>148190355
if he doesn't make another WTC i swear to god i will cut him
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Danganronpa reminded me at how disappointed I was from Umineko after all those years

fucking goats
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>>148190456
Since it has a barcode, does that mean it was from a book or manga or something? Why would she be wearing that if it was the cover for the official manga? Or was it edited?
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fucking goats
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>>148190697


What are you a fag?
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>>148163224
Ebay and amazon. Nyya has no seeders atm and other links are too old.

Youtube if youre fine with its bitrate
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>>148190801
It's the back cover of the pachinko artbook. I made the edit myself. Here's the original.
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>>148177089
it was obvious that battler was involved somehow, and it was clearly impossible for one person

only had to reread the story once after figuring this out to get it
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>>148190867
Ah, that explains everything.
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>>148157881
>MFW Rosa screams "SAKUTARO IS DEAD!" when she activates metaworld while he's out.
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>>148172345
>all of its remixes are quite good too though
what remixes
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>>148159574
Happiness of marionette
Resurrected replayer
F style
Melting away
Melody (instrumental)
One
Hello your dream
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>>148156076
>no Kinzo to transform into a fucking dragon as a super
>>
>>148159574
Dreamenddischarger still gets me pumped up whenever I hear it.
>>
Worst characters
Best theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSQO0I5FHoc
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oh I have one of these.
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goodbye umineko threads until the next year, was nice knowing you
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>>148159574
>Nobody posted this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEOy4zEVFoU
Fo' shame /a/
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>tfw anime will never be real
it hurts
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It's nice to see all the Erika posted. I want to marry Erika.
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>>148176607
Fuck, that makes me wanna play ougon again.
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>>148193109
>wanting to stick the dick into crazy
Youre not going to live long
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>>148193213
How is she crazy? But frankly, I would even if she was crazy.
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>>148169671
Its so hilarious, I actually will give you some pity (You)'s just for mocking purposes, because everybody knows that Erika a shit.
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>>148193338
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>>148193338
>thinks erika is shit
>posts smug erika
????
What did he mean by this
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>>148193338
>liking an emotionless witch over a smart and pretty detective
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How would things be different if he was the detective instead of Erika?
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>>148193338
erika is the best girl
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>>148193422
He would have gotten shit done
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>>148193422
He would once again.suspect the person who's most innocent.
>>
threads over
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>>148193751
Youre over
>>
This thread's still got a few posts in it, don't give up
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>>148159574
deadangle
>>
>>148159574
goldenslaughterer
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Black Battler.
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Was he a Sorcerer?
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>>148195253
He did nothing wrong so yes.
>>
Beatrice is horrible edgy bitch, but Battler's dick will cure everything. I forgive her
>>
I WANT TO FUCK BERNKASTEL
>>
I love Umineko. I know that some of you despise the ending, but I can't hate it.
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>>148198850
whats that?
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>>148190861
>>148163224
Try this.
rokkenjima.tumblr.com
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In my mind Kyrie was always an accomplice. The mere fact that Ange stayed home that day and Yasu knew to send her money implies Kyrie knew in advance. Why else would Ange receive money? She would have been present that day if Kyrie hadn't somehow drugged her into being absent. A protection she didn't grant to Battler who she didn't believe to be her own son.
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>>148199266
Never ever by Ufotable director
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I recently finished Umineko and jesus christ the amount of fanbase speculation is overwhelming. I'm pretty sure I spent like 2 straight days after I finished it just googling various questions about the game and reading every link, and I still feel so out of the loop whenever I read a thread like this.
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>>148176935
what is the correct answer?
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>>148199389
Thats all sadly some low bitrate stuff
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>>148199548
Don't worry anon just check this out and you will understand everything https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHMta4YbjSM

Or read the manga since it explains everything and confirms what really happened
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>>148190355
I'm hoping that Hotarubi is just a small project or a tie-in to WTC5, as unlikely as that is.

A manga WTC5 just won't get as much discussion and speculation as a WTC5 VN.
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>>148199703
There's a flac collection on bakabt for a few of the albums.
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>reminder that Eva is the only good guy
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>>148200437
You sure about that anon?
>>
POST K1
>>
So Battler is actually gay?
Wow D R O P P E D
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>bump limit

Farewell, fellow seacats.
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>>148200662
Yes
The scene of Battler getting pierced by the Stakes was actually a metaphor of him getting fugged
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>>148200823
It all makes sense now.
>>
I really like EP 7 and 8 manga.

Especially the part with Sayo.
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It's finally over.
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>>148193422
He would go full paranoid status and pick out one of the least likely suspects, such as Maria, Kanon or Shannon and then come up with an elaborate conspiracy theory in order to implicate that person.
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>>148180686
It's Battler's and Beatrice's birthdays.
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>>148200501
I enjoy the thought of Gohda sneaking into Kinzo's room to wear that cool cape when he thinks that nobody is looking.
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>you will never have a threesome with Bern and Erika
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>>148201537
I'd rather have a threesome with a cake and a cat.
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>>148201537
>>148201559
>Not an eightsome with the ass sisters
Shit taste
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>>148193401
Its Bern-sama retard kid
>>
Bern is cute.
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Motherfucking small bombs
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>>148202223
I kind of want Bern-sama to step on me.
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shii yu agen in the golden land nerds
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I claim this thread for 我が主
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Reminder that Bern is best seacat
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>>148202277
Who the fuck wouldn't?
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>>148202566
Traitor
>>
Welp, see you guys next year. It was great talking about Umineko again.
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Let this cat box lie on the bottom of the sea for another year.
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>>148202566
Atleast you got the hair color right.
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I want to do lewd things with Dlanor!
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Goodnight, Sea Cat
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See you all next year.
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