Did Grumpy Jii-san have good taste?

>>148054147
It is really decent taste, the thing with it is that it is completely unremarkable. High quality anime films that are fantastically animated made by some of the best directors in the industry ever are great? Who would have thought it. There is hardly one surprise there. All very standard and objective feeling rather than feeling like a subjective preference.

>>148054147
yeah he got decent taste

>>148054147
Grumpy Jii-San was the greatest of us to ever exist.

He's fine, right?

>>148054147
Better than mine, at least.

He loved Lupin and Harlock, that alone elevated him far above the plebosphere.

>>148054147
He was a little too positive about Shinkai shit, but otherwise acceptable.

>>148054578
They are generally good looking films and the animation has only become increasingly better so they do have some merit and at the time the earlier ones were also impressive for being made by only a small team or even just Shinkai in some cases but yeah Shinkai's same story over and over gets real old.

>>148054147
>Escaflowne(Movie)
>Summer Wars

Pretty good otherwise.

>>148054337
What would you want him to rate 4.5 or 5 stars that wouldn't make his taste "boring"?

God, he really did his reviews so good. Can anyone even take on his legacy? Grumpy Nii-san maybe?

>>148054147
>Macross: Do you Remember Love

NO

>>148054147
90% of that shit I haven't seen

Can I watch Arcadia of my Youth before the rest of the other stuff in the series?

>>148054898
Lurk the fuck more

>>148054898
I haven't seen any of it.

>>148054959
>>148054961
pls ignore me

>>148054959
>>148054961
watch more anime

>>148054147
>he didn't live long enough to review Legend of the Galactic Heroes

>>148055029
I really should, but I always fall into the trap of watching breezy stuff with zero substance.

>>148055078
Then watch the stuff in the OP

>>148054878
I thought about doing something simmilar, going out and doing reviews out in New Zealands mountains. However I don't feel like it's appropriate. It was Jiisans thing you know.

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>>148054817
I never said boring or even bad. It is just really obvious for the most part. Mostly just fairly popular high quality film works by the most well known directors. You could almost get most of the same list just searching "anime movies" on google.

>>148055172
I never understood this as a criticism. His list of good movies is made up of good movies? You are literally picking on him for not being contrarian.

>bokurano anime
not so good

>>148055303
It's more so much that it ends up feeling a little bit pointless.
It doesn't really tell us anything about exactly what makes those films work compared to others.

>>148055044
I thought he did?

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>>148054147
>area 88
>shows the TV art
this nigga better not be implying he means the TV series

>>148055029
I don't watch things released before 2010.

>>148055372
>It doesn't really tell us anything about exactly what makes those films work compared to others.
Yeah, because it's literally just a list of films, not a detailed critique.

>>148054147
>did
he's still alive fyi

>>148055467

How come? There's lots of good stuff you're missing out on.

>>148055492
Batman told me he was dead

>>148055303
Not that guy but for me, personally, it feels a little artificial and disingenuous when someone's top series just happen to be universally praised and hard to argue with, and have little else in common. It makes you wonder where personal taste comes in? Most people would have a few 'objectively good' series that they adore and a few that they dislike, not because of any serious flaws but because that person naturally leans towards certain genres or styles.

I don't think that applies in this case though, since there's some fairly clear preferences.

>>148055303
No really that is not what I am saying at all. It just seems redundant to make a list of the same anime films that everybody knows about and point out they are good.

Did he only watch physical media or something because that is kind of what it feels like based on the choices there and what isn't there?

>>148055410
Please don't compare me to a pleb like him.

GITS 2 is shit

>>148055662
There is a bunch of stuff I feel is completely unexplored too, nothing for mahou shoujo really for example, very lacking in mecha. Combined with the stuff that isn't films it kind of feels like you could pick the majority of any "serious" anime watchers 3x3 straight off of there. It's almost entirely entry level "patrician" choices for the person that thinks they have great taste after they watched the 100 anime from a half decent rec list.

He had very inoffensive taste. He only got attention for the novelty of being an old man watching anime.

>>148055662
Anime is too niche for that to even be a thing. Expand it to world animation or cinema in general and there are enough great works for taste to exist, but within anime alone there simply aren't that many masterpieces.

>>148055812
>nothing for mahou shoujo really for example

Maybe he didn't like them? You can't assume the reason people don't like the same anime you do is because they haven't seen it.

>>148055933
I didn't say he hadn't seen any. I was saying the fact that this kind of thing missing lent to it feeling unremarkable because it is the kind of thing you find missing in the taste of most of the types that I previously described as entry level patricians.

>>148056085
Mahou shoujo isn't really a patrician genre. Niche, sure, but the few that are great fall under that "entry level" patrician group as well.

>>148054898
>>148054961
Lurk for 2 years before posting and watch more anime.

>>148054147
>no zeta

>>148055435
He talked about both, preferred the OVA version, but he gave them both the same score since he believed that the TV version's story also had its merits.

>>148056170
It is just really hard to say someone specifically has great taste when all they have basically just said "good directors are good" it is like for film someone saying their favourites are fellini, hitchcock, kurosawa, ozu, murnau, bergman and dryer then expecting you to be impressed. It could be a list made by the preferences of anyone at all with a decent taste and is in that sense unremarkable.

>>148056347
Do you think he's trying to impress or do you think he's trying to recommend great works?

>>148055812
>nothing for mahou shoujo really for example
It has both Princess Tutu and Tweeny Witches

>>148056402
I'm addressing the question of the OP. If he had great taste I would be impressed his intentions are irrelevant to the point.

>>148056628
So what is good taste to you? The simultaneous ability to enjoy great works but also some worse, niche stuff?

>>148054147
so confirmed RIP?

>>148056689
Niche != bad.

>>148054147
It's okay.

>>148055044
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOf77n6dpIg

Truly the greatest man among us.

>>148056943
I didn't mean to imply that.

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The problem is that there are very few anime in general. If a bunch of people who were very well versed in fill made a top 1000 list, I bet you there would be a shitton of overlap. Now, if you took those same people and told them to make a top 20 movie list, I bet you there would be very little overlap.

For anime we can do the same thing. Pretty much everyone can agree on the top 50 animated films, but if you cut down the size to top 5, or even top three, you would get a lot of discussion and disagreement.

>>148056689
There is nothing wrong with his taste almost everything there is decent at worst. The implication that something being niche would mean it was worse is just stupid, anime itself is niche as a medium so I guess we should all be watching more mainstream media like films?

If anything though a better way to put my point would be that it makes it really hard to grasp at what someones taste is when they are agreeing with just about everyone else that X, Y and Z that almost everyone with a decent taste who isn't a contrarian thinks is good. You need more data than that list can really provide. Hence it comes off as unremarkable.

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>>148057053
Actually, fuck it, lets do this shit.

Top three anime films, top three anime series.

EoE, Millenium Actress, Nausicaa

Evangelion, Utena, Spice and Wolf

>>148057053
There's a huge breadth of great film directors but only a couple in anime. I'd wager there wouldn't be too much variance even for a top five or three if you go by the standards of those who are well-versed.

>>148054337
I think what made Grumpy Jii-san's taste so remarkable is that yes, the highest quality films were put in their place, but the exclusivity of what he put there.

>>148057282
First thing I thought of looking through his list is that most of it is rated far higher than they deserve.

>>148057214
>crossboarder reaction image
Fuck off, retard.

>>148057526
>gif
>image
anon...

>>148054147
yes

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>>148057557
>The Graphics Interchange Format (better known by its acronym GIFs a bitmap image format
>a bitmap image
>image

>>148057557
>gif
>not an image
It is an image format you fucking retard. Kill yourself.

no deathnote?

>>148057727
Remove the second half and you got a deal

yes he did

>>148057195
Top 3 anime thread now?

>Grave of the Fireflies
>Perfect Blue
>The Girl who Leapt Through Time

>Fate/Zero
>Ashita no Joe 2
>Ping Pong

What was that one image that went around that had shows like Hokuto no Ken and Utena on the right side for patricians and Haruhi and Bakemonogatari and other moe shows on the left for plebs. I know they didn't used the terms pleb or patrician but I want to know the anime on the image.

I miss him ;_;

>>148054147
He was only good reviewer and nobody can top him

>>148057327
And a lot of things that are often rated higher, aren't. LoGH is one of them.

>>148054147

Honestly, no, but it's not bad taste either. It's a bunch of easy to watch high budget things for westerners who don't really get anime.

There's also a bunch of anomalies that make it easy to see how little he's watched, like Tweeny witches and Appleseed being that highly rated. Nothing wrong with watching a small selection of shows, but you can't hold taste up as anything close to objective in those circumstances.

>>148054147
The only good anime reviewer

>>148054932
You should absolutely watch Arcadia of my Youth first, it's difficult to get into the original show without an appreciation for Rintaro (the director) and older, atmospheric shows with a focus on episodic parables.

The movie's just great too, I think I rewatch it at least every two years.

>>148063446
Not him, but if I didn't like Metropolis and Teito Monogatari should I just give up on Rintaro, or what? It just feels like he strings a bunch of broody scenes together awkwardly and doesn't give a shit about his characters.

>>148063653
I would try watching Metropolis again in a few years because you might like it, but just abandon any hopes of ever liking Teito Monogatari - I think people mostly like it because it's esoteric and most of the original fans saw it on VHS from the anime section in their local Blockbuster Video's.

One of the things you come to appreciate about Rintaro is that he can create a mood, to where the story comes second place. Plot is just a vehicle to deliver animation and atmosphere - and it's very typical for his film to be truncated adaptions of works that require knowing the story beforehand to even comprehend the plot! So basically, don't watch for the plot. Get drunk and enjoy the ride.

I do think the Harlock film is his strongest work however, and is worth watching a BD rip of. The 999 movies are also brilliant, and can probably be appreciated on their own better, since Rintaro was allowed to tell a full story, without being constrained by the anime running at the same time.

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>>148059035
This?

>>148065462
>kaiba
Hilarious.

>>148065462
yes you got it

>Escaflowne (movie)
>no Cardcaptor Sakura

Other than that, he's good.