Raildex

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>>147569998
I'm a index fag myself but whats the point of your imaginary friend being better than others?

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ARRRGGGHHH KANZAKI HELP ME, IT'S HAPPENING AGAIN

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AAAAAAARRRRGHHHH I WAS WRONG, HE WAS STILL ALIVE

KANZAKI HELP ME PLEASE

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Don't mind me, just being the best protagonist Kamachi ever wrote.

>>147569998
poor thing. Is a fucking god but can't afford proper clothes.

Her hat is 10/10

Is there any character that has as much resolve and willpower as touma?

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>no one answers OP
Business as usual.
>>147570350
dumb iceposter

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>>147569998
The abuse he goes through in his own home on a daily basis hardens and toughens him, preparing him for anything he might encounter outside.

>>147570443
Have you even considered for a moment that she likes that attire? Yes, it's lewd, but it's also somehow matching for a majin.

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>>147571526
OP here. I'm not surprised when I want to create discussion but all we get a shitposters.

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>>147571712
>Fate vs Index
If anything that discussion would have more shitposting

Why does Kakine Original seem obsessed with the idea of being a villain?

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why is kamikoto so best

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No one has more willpower than Sephiroth. His will is so strong he was able to block holy and pull himself out of the lifestream.

>>147572375
Because he failed to be a hero in some yet to be explained part of his past

I just started raildex currently starting ep10 on index.

How vast is the storyline after they stopped airing railgun s? More than twice the anime adaptation?

>>147572809
boy you're in for a ride

>>147572996
I mean, I'm ready to read LNs and other shit. How vast is it now?

>>147573100
First two index seasons cover the first 14 LNs, the 39th novel will be released next month IIRC
As for railgun, the railgun manga is way past the end of season 2

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>>147573211
>39th novel
Guess it'll be a long way

>>147573373
Don't worry, the arcs immediately after the end of the anime will get you hooked. Once WW3 ends I feel like the series starts being up and down again, but you can decide that for yourself.

>>147573211
How much fun must it be to only stumble upon this when there's already a fuckton of content instead of waiting months for new content

>>147569998
Nope. If he could have handled it, he wouldn't have turned into EMIYA. He would have just repeatedly tried to fight and win against Othinus instead of trying to understand her. He would have simply died when she gotten bored and killed him for real.

>>147573100
Not that guy, but I'm gonna talk about Index, since it's the main story. The Railgun anime is based on a manga.

Both of the Index seasons combined adapt the Index LN from volume 1 to volume 13 (or 14).

8 volumes of the "Old" testament remain to be adapted, and then, the New Testament has 16 volumes out. 24 volumes that have no anime adaptation.

>>147571665
Good thing Index will eventually pay him back with sex once she wins.

>>147573373
While you're at it, check up on Kamachi's other work. I'm sure by the time you're done, another 39 volumes of Index would be written.

>>147573443
Yeah, I've heard how agonizing it is for people who started this when it aired to wait for Season 3.

>>147573459
I thought indexfags were extinct, fascinating

>>147573545
>not knowing Kamachi recently wrote an SS were she and Touma goes on a date
She's endgame, anon.

>>147573603
He did? The last SS I've read about was Index shopping around for an oven. Was there a new one out?

>>147571429
Hakomari MC

>>147573603
It's just bait

Will the real Stiyl please stand up?

>>147573772
He mind broke from just 1000 years worth of the same shit touma had to go through. Touma went through a million years worth of torture and came out fine. Hakomari MC is a pussy

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>>147569998
Shirou would probably reach the Perfect World iteration and just like Touma would choose to be selfish, but I doubt he would "win" against Othinus. Touma's "victory" was a result of his compassion. He was able to understand that they are pretty much the same - both lost in endless stack of phases, rejecting new worlds to return to their home. That's why when he was defeated, he was able to entrust IB to Othinus - because it wasn't a fight of good and evil, but two opponents standing on the same moral ground. Touma's final words made her realize she has obtained and immediately lost what she was truly looking for - a person that understands her. Without the will to continue with her plan, she forfeited her victory.

I can't really see Shirou being able to come to the same conclusion as Touma and reach Othinus' heart. He would just die after getting rekt in the final fight.

>>147574127
Touma got through that hell not really having to do anything that betrays himself, he only had to endure he and his loved ones getting killed and tortured over and over. He was also able to communicate with Othinus occasionally while all that was going on, he wasn't completely on his own.
Meanwhile Kazuki had to constantly betray his own humanity by conducting mass murder and repeatedly committing suicide, not having any intelligent life whatsoever to communicate with. The situation in HakoMari is a lot worse even if it lasted a much shorter time.

>>147574371
I think watching your loved ones die over and over again and not being able to do anything about it is much worse especially when you have a hero complex. I loved HaKoMari but you can't even compare the amount of suffering between them.

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>>147574285
>not compassionate
Go read 3rei anon, he did nearly the same thing as Touma there, Shirou knows that he doesn't have moral high ground or anything, he knows what his opponent wanted to achieve and understood it.
He do have a knack of understanding his opponents, even if they interacted for just a short amount of time.

And Touma never tried to reach her heart or anything, he just trying to prove his point. He just got lucky that his last words sparked something to Othinus.

So yeah, it's still inconclusive and it's impossible to draw a concrete conclusion to this subject not to mention we know that both are mentally challenged too.

>>147576360
>3rei
I was thinking about F/SN Shirou. I read the VN a very long time ago, but from what I've remembered, Shirou wasn't as focused on opponent's way of living as Touma. And there is also a risk of getting EMIYA-fied, which versus Othinus would be a dead end.

>Touma never tried to reach her heart or anything
Yeah, he just sorta happened to hit the spot. He was completely surprised by her actions, so it's not like weaponized his understanding on purpose. But it was thanks to his character that he was able to stumble upon this result.

>>147569998
No, he would give up in the perfect world

>>147574285
Most versions of Shirou would, and did, choose the world over themselves
He wants to the a hero, he wouldn't destroy everybody's happy ending to save himself

>>147576360
Not quite the same
In 3rei Shirou did what he did for Miyu, he was willing to let the world die to save his imouto, thats not truly selfish, he is doing it for someone else
Touma gave the middle finger to everybody he knew in order to save himself and fulfil his own selfish desires, saving Othinus, Will-chan and the world in the process was a coincidence

>>147577404
Every canon route Shirou is still at the core is still him, so the possibility of him developing the same way when in the same scenario and doing the same thing as Touma is possible, since, him as a character develops in response to his experience too, just like Touma.

Then think of this, what if we put Touma in Shirou's shoes then? Do we know the possibility of him to develop a different character from his current one? No, because there is no multiverse character of him to know if he had that ability to do so.

My point still stands, since Shirou has many different version that develop in myriad of ways because of what he experienced, it's still inconclusive that he can't have any chance to develop the same way as Touma if he become Touma, Unlucky arm instead of Sword Autism.

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>>147570350
Not even best HO, let alone best girl girl or protagonist.

>>147578555
>No he would give up
Touma did give up too, dumbass, did you not read the whole damn novel, you speed reader?
>most
Again inconclusive, since to reach the point of time in the novel requires Shirou to be Touma from the start, which will be unpredictable in regards to his structure as a character, but it's within the realistic possibility that he would develop the same as Touma, beinng autistic and all of that.
>not quite the same
It is the same selfishness he had in every route and side-story he appeared, his beliefs in it's core, he knew was still selfishness, as shown by Archer being edgy because he can't hold on his ideals and not because of the lives he failed to save, and self satisfaction as he already admitted many times, just like Touma.

>>147573211
>39th novel
Pretty sure there are 47 LNs published so far

Who cares?

Nothing that happened in that volume mattered and was just a bad dream

>>147572809
You should read the Light Novels.

Anime is an awful adaptation.

>>147578880
Not that anon, but the only instance where we see Shirou go through a fraction of what Touma did, he became EMIYA. So unless there is some other looping Shirou that didn't become like that, please show us how he ended up differently.

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>>147579330
>Touma did give up too
Not really, he tried to kill himself once but after that he no longer had problems crushing that world
>since to reach the point of time in the novel requires Shirou to be Touma from the start
Isn't the point to just through Shirou in the middle of it to see how would he react? Of course that if Shirou had Touma's life he would have reacted like him
>It is the same selfishness
It is not the same, being selfish to save someone else is easy for both of them, its what they do all the time. Thats why Will-chan didn't want to tell him that the perfect world was killing her, if she had told him he would have fight Othinus without hesitation to save her

>>147579194

Mariydi > Putana = Nyarlathotep > rest. Even if vol.11 made two idiots much better than they were before.

>>147579821
I always get the feeling that Will-tan getting Touma to be selfish was to help him to understand what Othinus was going through. He was willing to destroy any and all worldz to go back to his own, just like what Othinus was doing.

>>147580024
I don't think she planned that far ahead, she probably just wanted him to realize how valuable he was so he wouldn't try to commit suicide again

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>>147571429
Not resolve, but 1000 x the luck. And he knows how to handle goddesses.

>>147580278
Only because everyone in his world is dumber than a bag of bricks. Competent enemies are the bane of Isekai everywhere.

>>147580532
They've taken down a fair number of competent enemies though

>>147579821
>Touma didn't give up, but tried to suicide
Did you just contradicted your self? He did willingly tried to suicide because he saw that he has no place in this world, and he can't do anything about it. Or even reading his internal monologue still didn't gave you that conclusion? The hell?
>isn't the point
Then it would be just comedy, having Shirou saying something like "who the hell are you? The hell is this?" and questions Othinus why he is there, while Othinus, also surprised, saying something like "WHO the hell are you? Where's Kamijou?" or something to that account. To compare what will shirou do in the slightest, he needs to have a personal history with Othinus the same degree as Touma.
>It's not the same
Yes it is, it's still selfishness in the core, the only reason Touma did what he did was because Will manipulated him to, UBW did the same, "being that save others but don't go too far to destroy yourself for it" theme.
>>147580024
Nope, she has no sliver of idea of what the hell Othinus is going through, they never even interacted in the series, unlike Touma and to a lesser extent, Aleister.

>>147580648
Actual competent enemies, or just enemies with powerful abilities?

>>147580278
Thought this post was about Rance at first glance.

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>>147580851
Giant robots n shiet

>>147579943
Mariydi is only middling in my opinion. She isn't bad, but she lacked the raw bestness that Illness Magic User had to carry a solo protagonist story.

>>147580278
He got shit luck, having bakamegami at his side destroys and luck he had in tackling enemies at the level of Othinus.

>>147571429
>will power
>this guy literally intended to kill himself in NT9 when shit got too hard for him

On his own he's a bitch like everyone else

>>147580851
Both

>>147580913
That doesn't really answer my question here. Are they actually competent (use their powers in a non-stupid way ala Jojo) or just entities with a powerful ability but doesn't use it creatively ala 'only resorting to spamming the same moves over and over again'.

>>147581034
Post an example of the competent type. Can't really judge something without seeing/reading it first.

>>147580811
Are you forgetting he visited the perfect world multiple times?
He had a moment of weakness the first time but kept on going once it was over and was able to relive that hell without problems to give Othinus his speech
He did not give up

Is the index anime any good? I dont really want to read a light novel so is the anime at least ok?

>>147581162
That demon that tried to blow up the wall for example

>>147581305
Any chance you are expand upon that? Because that doesn't really explain much beyond a wall getting destroyed.

>>147581200
>he literally gave up and needed someone else to save him and THEN give him some pep talk

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>>147581276
You will end up reading it anyway so you may as well start with the novels

>>147569998
At least Shirou would have got some kind of character development out of it.

>>147581200
>There's no way an Anon can be this dumbass

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Now I know your IQ level there's no need for me to continue this discussion. Here is the final (You) from me.

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>>147581113
Nobody is competent. It's a comedy.
The tank is a masochistic slut, the healer is a retarded goddess, the wizard is a chuuni obsessed with explosion magic she can only cast once per day and the main character is an extremely lucky tsukkomi.

>>147581402
A masked demon lord who "inhabits" magical masks he creates and can and does possess people who put on the mask. He takes over the masochist tank and tries to make them kill eachother for shits and giggles, never actually putting in any effort, but the party manages to destroy the mask.
Later he comes back with a Mk II mask, completely unharmed and friendly, complimenting them on managing to beat him.
Whatever you do, don't take the series seriously. It's great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJzEscb4Pcw

>>147581563
Not sure how much development he's going to get when he's dead.

>>147576360
>3rei

When Shirou fights for his family, he does this change. Othinus isn't someone he would consider family as he did with Miyu or Sakura (in HF), or Taiga.

>>147579739
Fate Shirou is supposedly the same, except he got reunited with Arturia in the end. Fate Shirou endlessly journeyed and fought for an intermitted eternity to reach her.

Of course Shithinus isn't worth shit in comparison to Arturia.

>>147581617
I know, I saw the anime right up to Lich introduction before I dropped it. It was very funny, but for some reason, I just couldn't get into it. I just couldn't remember if there was an actual competent enemy in what I saw or if there is one in the LNs.

Why would Shirou give a shit about that slut? That's like making him interested in Medea.

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>>147581837
Competent enemy is in the LN.
I can't shill the series enough. It's a low budget miracle that is AOTY. You must watch it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPSg5az635I

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>>147575345
Nigga, he KILLED all his loved ones
Friends and family
With his two goddamn hands
Did Touma ever stab Index or anyone else in the gut for the sake of escaping that shit?

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>>147581837
>dropping it before the best episode

>>147581855
Funny thing there was a route planned where Medea is the heroine.

>>147581700
>actually understood and respected some of his enemies redeemable or not, or being at the opposite side of goals.
Don't know, maybe try to read FSN and Prillya over again? He even had that trait better than what Touma shown.

>>147582007
I dunno what to say, I just didn't want to watch it anymore. It was very funny, but it was starting to get repetitive. Like I could already hear the jokes before it was made already, and I just lost any motivation after that.

>>147581814
I always get the feeling Fate-Shirou never really went through the same 'kill one to save many' missions or seen the really horrible eldritch abominations that Archer went through. I can't imagine a Shirou that stayed idealistic would have been OK with doing what Archer did for an eternity without breaking. It doesn't really make sense.

>>147581814
He didn't journey through an eternity built specifically to break him.

>>147582440
Not even the most powerful Gods of any religion was capable of reaching Avalon, I wonder how a normal mage like Shirou managed to? We don't knw, yet, so no need for headcanons.

>>147582730
Because Nasu says so. Since when have he ever stuck to his own canon? What is impossible today is not impossible tomorrow when he wants to wank off to certain characters.

>>147581962
Touma would rather kill himself than kill others. He even made others literally eat him. And no amount of suffering beats living an entire life up to old age in a conscious coma.

>>147579739
He became EMIYA because he needs to do something he hates to do for eternity, billion years can't compare to that. And that is because his ideals was never challenged beforehand.

And for the record,you dumb faggots always says that Touma survived this ordeal because of his own merit even though, like all the previous and latter novels, he actually needed others to save him, in here Will and Othinus via luck.

>>147582958
Not that anon, but seriously, stop. Touma was willing to kill Rensa to save someone. I'm an Index-fag and even I think you're trying too hard here.

So I'm confused about the Baggage City thing.
It was said that Othinus was trying to create an esper based on holism or whatever but who the fuck was that?

>>147583033
No one said he would be killing to save someone. That's another story. We're talking about saving himself.

>>147582864
>Implying it's not a normal thing in literature
Go read more stories, that should increase your understanding about human literature.

>>147583042
Its for the Gungnir, duh!

>>147583000
I'm not the anon that's been saying Touma did this on his own merit. I know Touma couldn't have gone through those millions of years of hell and pass the perfect world without Will-tan's help. However, he is remarkable for being able to get as far as he did without the slightest chance of fighting back. He suffered an enormous amount of shit before he finally gave up at the perfect world.

>>147583187
I know what's it's for numbnuts but it said that the distortion or whatever was caused by some holistic esper but I don't think it ever mentioned who that was

>>147583095
Funny enough, he ended up doing the exact opposite. He sacrificed himself for the sake of Othinus and his own world.

>>147583042
It was an experiment to test if holism was real.

>>147583272
You got confused. There was no holistic esper, but there was a phenomenon that showcased the concept of holism.

>>147583190
He did so, but saying that him surviving all of it without plot armor, and characters that helped him through the worst of all the phases he experienced he could never ever survived it, not to mention him being lucky to touch Othinus' kokoro during his "final" speech.

>>147583126
OK, and? Other authors does the same. How does that affect my post about Nasu doing authorial fiats and reconning his own work?

>>147583297
No, he admitted that he lost to Othinus. After understanding her, he left the fate of the world up to her.

>>147583326
But how was it made then? Was it just fueled off all the crazy bastards taking part in the tournament?

>>147583347
Well, it wasn't plot armor as so much as Othinus still wanted Touma to be alive to break him during all those loops. He lost and 'died' in every encounter against her. He was suppose to live so he can suffer millions of years of physical and mental torture. This much is fact. And Touma understanding the enemy has been a thing since the beginning. Not sure why this is considered lucky when this is pretty much his own innate skill.

>>147583385
Yes, the clash of magic and science created a distortion over the area. Or rather, it was the distortion over the area that fueled the clash of magic and science.

>>147583376
He never thought he had a chance in the first place. He knows he cant win against a magic god, all he can do is bide his time and plead his case.

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>>147583515
Ah, I get it now thanks
Shit was bugging me for the longest time

>>147583358
Other author's can do the same, it's up to them, the sales, readers and critics will just judge it based on their own perspective and understanding, it's their story, not your story, it's their AUTHORity as an writer/AUTHOR of the story.

Get what I mean?

>>147583641
Yeah, you're basically agreeing with me that Nasu had retcon his own work since he's the author.

>last volume
>Big Al's master keikaku coming into play
>it's just Touma and him in some freaky interdimensional room for them to fight in
>Al spends at least three pages explaining it all to him, probably just something along the lines of becoming an actual god not just some magic one or whatever
>Touma is absolutely fed up with the fact that the big bad is this generic in his motivations
>just clocks him right in the face with his left hand muttering IDTI, IDTI before heading back home to get his scalp munched on because his headcrab already ate all the food he left for her on the first day he left

Fukou motherfucking da

>>147583973
>implying that kamachi won't pull some 'raise your hand if you thought aleister was the final boss' shit at the end

>>147584108
>Ending leads into another crossover due to some sort of god fuckery
>Turns out they were actually canon
>Touma just gives up and walks off to find food for the headcrab because fuck all this shit

>>147584108
That's it
Final boss is kamachi.exe
The end will involve having to take out the servers before he ascends to skynet status with the help of a lolified Aleister

Girl in the Dress or Uiharu?

>>147583507
Uhm, the point was that Toumafags insisting that he went through everything and will survive it regardless of anything.

In response to that, I'll point some inconsistency. If she really wantes the IB, why not brainwash, manipulate his brain functions, or control his consciousness in response to his decision making? Misaki can do it, why does Othinus don't do so? Or he even survived that worlds himself without serious repercussion since it pushes the limit of disbelief of some readers(I see them often here, can't blame them). Plot armor is not a bad thing, but saying Touma don't have one makes me puke in that bias opinion, Plot armor always exist to characters who are needed to move the plot with them being present, Touma is no exception of that.

And did, Fiamma, Acqua and many others had understanding with Touma before defeating then or being beaten up? It's a plot armor, a literal Deus ex Machina to a God, for me it's not a bad thing, at all, and actually loved that ending, but denying what it is just makes you look like a brainless fanboy.

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>>147584339
GiTD is the wife, Uiharu is the mistress, Kamachi agrees.

>>147583834
Then, what is your problem?

Did unlucky finish the chart?

>>147584339
Girl in the dress, but if we're accounting for both versions of them then the Uiharus.

>>147584366
>Uhm
Fuck you
>If she really wantes the IB
But she didn't want IB
She only wanted to break him so he wouldn't interfere
>Misaki can do it
Not really
She could try but he just gets dizzy and touches his head to make that go away

>>147584366
It's not so much the actual surviving part that's impressive, it's the willingness to live and continue after going through so much shit. All he has to do is give up and it would all be over. But he didn't. That's what is impressive. And Othinus seems to have been subconsciously wanting to keep Touma alive since she was still hoping to use IB as well as wanting someone to go through what she did so they can understand her. Had Touma given up, she would have given up on IB as well, and would have continued her eternal quest to find someone else that can understand her.

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>>147573545
no, just people who like index don't bother because she's been ignored for ages

>>147584339
Uiharu x Kakine is best pairing.

Girl in Dress is a literal whore, and a pretty damn good one apparently.

>>147584541
>uhm fuck you
Whoa how... Mature.
>But...
Fuck you idiot, she wanted IB itself, the breaking the mind is partially a way to lengthen the story and give Touma a chance. She could just control him in many ways she can think of, having her capable of reviving him as a whole everyone.
>Not really
I see you lack of reading comprehension, Bitch, she can actually use her powers to fuck with Touma's brain as long as Touma don't touch it with his IB on time, why the fuck someone Infinitly squared Infinity stronger, and showed powers that only Misaki could dream of using her own, can't do that?!?!

Your just showing off your lack of basic intelligence here, you're not getting another reply from me, retard.

>>147585005
She's not a whore, didn't you read what she said? The last time someone pay attention to her he ended up in a fridge and got taken over by himself.

>>147585246
Please, she clearly sells her ability.
She pretends to be people's daughter or girlfriend, including all the emotional commitment.
She's a professional.

>>147585246
>>147585304
I wonder what she wanted from Aleister. Being the only unharmed agent in the battle royale has to mean something.

>>147584818
She was actually trying to use IB, to restore her OWN world, regardless of Touma existing or not.
That subconscious desire is actually a form of plot armor for Touma, so Kamachi can have justification for what happened in the novel and not make it look like it's too extremely weird for her actions in it.

And plot armor is not a bad thing itself, it's how it's used, only ignorant retards will say it's a bad thing as a whole. IMO it was used perfectly in this Volume by Kamachi(yeah I loved that part).

The surviving part your saying is not my gripe, I'm saying is that toumafags ignore the help Touma gotten to go through such shit. Well that applies to many series anyways, love the series, hate the dumb fanbase.

>>147585743
Touma only received outside help once throughout billions of iterations, some of which lasted an entire lifetime.

>>147584366
She can't brainwash him as IB would negate it sooner or later (sooner rather than later in the case of Misaki). Touma has to safely die and willingly give up IB to Othinus herself, or live and cooperate with her goals willingly in order for IB to be of any use to her.

>without serious repercussion
He was already broken. He literally eats suffering for breakfast. Plus he purged the biggest chunk from his memory as he was making the multi-loop speech.

>>147585743
The thing is, besides the Othinus arc, Touma doesn't actually just charge in. He actually plans his moves out. He mitigates the danger to himself as much as possible before going in wirh IB. And in most cases, he's actually with someone to partner up with him. Yes, there are cases where he seemingly avoids death thru sheer luck, but that is only after he and his allies had done everything they possibly can with their powers first. I can forgive some plot armor because at that point, there's really nothing much left he can do beyond more author fiat.

>>147585417

I bet she actually controlled Kakine from the start.

>>147573545

I'm an Indexfag, but I barely follow the series anymore and only check threads maybe once every few months. Kamachi gives me few reasons to follow the LNs anymore with the treatment of Index, Itsuwa, and Kanzaki, and the threads are generally hostile to Index.

>Fate versus Index bullshit right off the bat

Jesus christ OP, you fucking faggot

>>147587410
>Index
who

>>147587410
Itsuwa and Kanzaki don't have a very large role in the overall plot though.

>>147587673
They at least had token appearances in late OT, it's actually somewhat jarring how they just outright vanish if you reread late OT and then NT. Actually, even Misaka's token appearances have gotten removed in volumes she doesn't do anything in.

>>147587810
It's the same deal for Etzali, Awaki, GiTD, etc. You're going to get shiny new characters and you're going to like it.

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>>147587955
Well, at least his other series can each scratch a different itch individually in the meantime. Still waiting on that 0-X office spinoff though.

>>147588209
Touma childhood SS when?

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>>147585226
Alrighty then
Stay classy, buttmad anon

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One and a half month left until Mie's revolution.

>>147587955
>and you're going to like it

No, I'm not. And looking at latest sales most people are tired of this shit too.

At this point I care about HO more than Index.

>>147589787
If by latest sales, you mean still way above average and extremely profitable. Yeah anon, people are really trying their best to not make it bestseller.

>>147589916
Don't bother, he'll spend 50 posts with misguided rants about sales again.

>>147589916
I think he just meant a lot of people dropped the series in Japan, I'll admit I'm not as hyped for new volumes as I used to be.

>>147590137
It's 40 volumes in. Any series that had manage to reached this point without any more anime adaptation is bound to lose readership.

Mikoto and Touma will have a tender moment on Christmas, and there's nothing anyone can do about it

>>147590231
Even then though, the dropoff has been rather steep in NT. There just hasn't really been anything that lives up to the standard on late OT so far except for maybe NT9. Not as bad as early OT, but not the best of the series either.

>>147590248
>Touma and his right hand will have a tender moment on Christmas, and there's nothing anyone can do about it
FTFY

>>147589916

Anon, sales dropped from almost 300k for early NT volumes to less than 100k for the last one.

>>147590306
There was still a railgun anime adaptation during the late-OT/early-NT period. Since then, there hasn't been any anime adaptation. Of course there's a drop-off. How can it not?

>>147590384
Early NT volumes were released while the anime was still airing/just finished airing.

>>147590384
There was a railgun adaptation at early NT period. Again, there hasn't been an anime since then. And it's still selling around 100k. Are you unaware just how much of a success 100k for LNs is?

>>147590416
Railgun S was during early NT, didn't the big dropoff happen at NT3? I don't remember the exact dates so I could be wrong, but I do clearly remember that NT started in late 2011, so Railgun S had to have been during NT.

>>147590416

Many series sell consistently despite not getting anime for years.

NT lost 2/3 readers.

>>147590490
Railgun S started at 04/12/2013 and ended at 09/12/2013.
NT 6 was released at 01/10/2013, NT 7 at 05/10/2013, NT 8 at 09/10/2013

>>147588209
I really do want one. I just want to verify what exactly the deal that he and IB or possibly IT worked out before he left for Academy City. That is if High Priest wasn't just spouting shit.

>>147590502
You might as well post some of them as examples. I mean, they are consistently selling at 100k per volume, right?

>>147590502
Name one above Index.

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>it's a sales auism episode

>>147590490

You are forgetting the movie. And Railgun is a different series even if it's a spin-off.

The fact remains that sales dropped. Hard.

There are novels that had no anime in a decade yet still sell good.

And how would anime even improve sales when it would adapt novels from like 2009?

>>147590914
>There are novels that had no anime in a decade yet still sell good.
Name them then. And they better be selling at 100k copies per volume.

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>>147590914
You try to shill your opinion as hard as you can in basically every thread. Fuck off. The sales dropped around NT9, which was one of the best volumes. Quality has no impact on the sales when its this old. We get it, you like all-girls series and HO and you're using an ancient series' inevitably declining sales to shitpost.

>>147591039
Not that anon, but don't drag HO into this. Most of the HO LN fanbase are made up from people that read Index LN. He's just trying to stir shit up by dragging HO into his bait.

>>147591029
>>147591039

https://myanimelist.net/news/46243624

Index had a movie in 2013. SAO, NGNL or Mahouka had anime in 2014. What a difference. Shit, there are series that don't even have anime on the list.

Why is it so hard to accept that NT sales are nosediving? It's doing 1/3 of what early NT volumes did. And half of what vol12 sold.

It's a big and fast drop.

>>147590846
I don't get why people sperg so hard over something so stupid
Why can't we just talk about the series without it devolving into shitflinging between turboautists?

>>147591346
>implying the movie even did anything to the sales
Who is not accepting that NT is declining? You're trying to force your meme that the quality has any impact on it. If quality impacted sales, SAO and Mahouka would've been cancelled by now.

>>147591390

Because there is literally nothing to talk about. After new volume comes out all discussion dies out in a week or two.

>>147590032

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Why won't you guys apply the same logic to Railgun? Railgun had anime in 2013. Manga sales are stable. They are not nosediving despite no anime for 3 years.

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>>147591586
Because it's a manga silly anon. Also hey, its best dragon loli

>>147591346
>Every series above Index in the sales by volumes have had an anime more recent than Index
Great point you have there, anon

>>147591586
Because it's a manga. Manga are a vastly different medium than LN.

>>147591666

And manga magically don't lose readers because of no anime? What?

The funny thing is I bet that most of those people buying Railgun now were also buying Index in the past. But they stopped buying one of them yet not the other.

>>147591797
Give it a rest

>>147591797
And you can bet your ass quality wasn't the reason since fuck all happened in Railgun in the past 2 years.

>>147591586
Not the sales shitter, but to me, it's less to do with anime or it's format so much as that NT feels a lot different than OT. Even the shitty volumes of OT at least felt like they were leading to something, but NT just hasn't had that feeling after NT10. That complaint can be retroactively addressed if the volumes so far do lead to something, but until then it just doesn't really give me much reason to get hyped. Railgun really hasn't changed much, so it doesn't suffer from that problem even if I haven't actually really kept up with it at all since Nuit.

>>147591911
Railgun has been all over the place since the Daihaseisai ended. I suppose if the pieces actually come together and they follow through with the sniper-chan/saten thing it won't be as bad.

>>147570186
>>147570224
>>147570268

Fuck off

>>147591984
It might, Railgun always felt directionless to me until things came together after a few years of chapters so I usually read it in bursts.

>>147591911
I actually like how its different from OT. As much as I love OT14-22 it was written very "normally" with the exception of OT15. Kamachi has had some weird ass shit in NT and I like that. And we all know he'll find a way to make NT's endgame hype. If he doesn't then I'll eat my words.

>>147591797
One Piece manga sales actually increased during the Fishman Island arc, which is widely regarded as one of the weakest arcs ever. So clearly quality != sales here.

>>147573711
>>147573813
https://imgur.com/a/Io6jf

Styilfag killed himself after this was posted in the previous thread leaving only his faker alive.

>>147592142
I mean, I sort of agree with you since I like the individual novels, but I don't know, it's sort of hard to really explain. I did find it rather amusing that I was thinking around NT13 or so that the god thing might have worked better as it's own story rather than starting so late into a series then a few months later started reading Blood Sign. I guess maybe it's just that Kamachi doesn't seem to go full crazy in NT as often as he used to, or maybe just not as much as I'd like. NT4 and 7 were great for that, but other times he feels more restrained, or something. It's all just feeling rather than logic so it might just be me a bit too.

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>>147590231
Guin Saga.

>>147591984

Daihaiseisai was also all over the place until finale happened.

>>147592344
That shit reached 40 volumes in the 80s, at that point you either only go up or stop going.

>>147592305
Index is probably restricted due to how popular it is than his other stuff. Kamachi really has evolved as a writer though. I mean, just look at how drastically different NT3, 4 and 5 were. That unorthodox style and unpredictability is what makes his works so damn fun for me to read.

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>>147592344
Wrong cat.

>>147592344
Some of Chloe's forehead is pink there. Sasuga SL.

>>147592344
Anon, volume 138 sold around 5k copies.

NT went to absolute shit after Othinus arc. That entire thing with the world ending and going black should be left for the ultimate finale of the series.

Everything after Othinus feels like series was already dead but somebody raised it as a zombie. Even Crowley is a joke now.

>>147592242
Do you think he read it before throwing himself off of the london bridge or was the title enough?

>>147592501
No response to the rest of your post, but a flag was already raised about Crowley after NT2's ending.

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>>147592501
Aleister has been steadily falling apart since Battle Royale.

>>147592420

He definitely got better as a writer. Which is what makes recent NT being bad even more strange.

>>147590476
I would say sales are still good.

>>147591911
Yeah this. OT worked as stand alone volumes because those volumes played a connection in the late game.

NT just throws things to the wall to see what sticks and them uses them in the most dull possible, point in case Yuitsu's using Jobbing Matter and the St. Shitposter which comes form the weakest volume from NT so far.

>>147592420
I agree that Kamachi has improved as writer. HO and Zashiki are reflection of this.

However, why then NT fails to show that? It's like he wasn't writing NT anymore.

>>147592601
Index LN always had its ups and downs. However, it just seems to be of a lower quality because of the sheer amount of releases. Normally, we have a few months to digest the previous chapters, to let it fade before moving on to the next volume. Now we're getting a ridiculous amount of stuff written all at once. The thing is, Dengeki usually hold stuff back, even outright refusing to accept his work if its too much, to sparse out the releases. This sudden onrush makes me wonder if they're planning something with him or something.

>>147592527
Inmolation.

But jokes aside, what is this about?
Is it really true it's about Index and Touma going out in a date?

>>147592785
NT12 was actually one of the ones I liked the most after NT10. It had Item actually be relevant, Hamazura was the bro Touma needed, and St. Shitposter was just a fun villain even if worthless in the overall plot. Granted, NT11 was equally as worthless outside of the epilogue so two volumes in a row of that made both of them get seen in a worse light due to two fillers in a row.

>>147592553
We talk a lot about how NT has been shitting on Touma non stop compared to OT, but Aleister really is suffering of the same thing.
He went from seemingly unbeatable in OT to watching his plans crumble around him at escape velocities and only being able to damage control it to a point where Laura doesn't laugh at him too much.

>>147592785
It's not that NT is bad, it's just that we're just getting a lot of it at once. Any series, no matter how good, gets stale going at the blistering pace of release Kamachi is doing. The supernatural is now starting to look mundane. You can only read it so much in so little time before it gets stale.

>>147592891
Hamazura and Shitposter weren't enough to save it against the Shinka Wanking and Touma being retarded both literally killed the overall mood.

>>147592792

Can't really blame it on the amount of work. Recent HO volumes were great. He also puts more research and effort into tech in HO than he ever did in Index.

NT feels like the usual case when publisher and editors force the author to keep going while he would rather end the series.

>>147593026
OT was compared to Oda's One Piece.

NT now is compared to Kubo's Bleach.


Hold me guys. What went wrong?

>>147593093
Both are shit though

>>147593093
Through the first 16 volumes NT has been better and anyone who argues this is a fucking idiot.

>>147593093

One Piece is suffering from the same syndrome.

>>147593026
HO isn't being released at a near monthly pace here. It's getting released way too fast. Granted, I do think his other work are starting to rob some of the magic of Index since HO is leeching away his tech ideas, Blood-Sign is using magic stuff while Boo-boo is taking his kung-fu stuff. Dengeki really need to sparse all of his releases instead of this monthly schedule.

>>147593152
Keep telling yourself that denial blind-kun.

>>147592242
was it the last raildex thread? I wanna read what the anons were saying also did Styilfag sperg out like a idiot?

>>147593197

Didn't Kamachi say that he has Mariydi volumes ready but isn't sure how to release them?

I don't think they are forcing him to release a ton of work. He wants to do a lot of stuff but is simply bored of Index.

>>147571429
Gon

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>>147593152
>clones
>Awaki
>Vento
>Terra
>Battle Royale
>Acqua

>worse than NT

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>>147569998
Oniisama is able to one shot the whole Raildex universe.

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>>147592093
No!

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>>147593489
And the White Queen can one shot Onii-sama, your point?

>>147593299
HO probably isn't the best example for that, Kamachi outright stated he writes it without a plot a mind and it's almost entirely episodic anyway, so he can just do whatever he wants with it.

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>>147593489
>guy who can't even destroy a continent with one hit

>>147593544
I wouldn't be so sure about that. I would agree if it were anyone else, but we're talking about Onii "Japanese thermonuclear batman trained by ancient bald ninjas"-sama here.

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>>147593265
>>147593462
>through the first 16 volumes
>implying Awaki and Vento are even remotely memorable
NT1 > OT1
NT2 > OT2
NT 3 < OT3
NT 4 >OT4
NT5 > OT5
NT6 > OT6
NT7 > OT7
NT8 > OT8
NT9 > OT9
NT10 > OT10
NT11 > OT11
NT12 > OT12
NT13 < OT13
NT14 < OT14
NT15 < OT15
NT16 < OT16

All that remains to be seen is how NT continues from here.

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>>147593603
What about Ani "Japanese magical batman loved by Great Old Ones" ue?

>>147593563

Recent NT volumes feel like filler. He could do anything with them too. I think he simply went too far with the setting and it's hard to write anything interesting in that world now. After Otinus and Magic Gods nothing feels important.

>>147593612

So even you admit that recent volumes were shit.

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>>147593612

>>147592242
did Styilfag translated it?

The elements and heatwave shit was boring and really lame. Kamachi needs to go back to crazy shenanigans like the hero experiment.

>>147593805
I personally like NT13 and 16 but OT was simply amazing at that point. You faggots have been spoiled by Kamachi's incredibly over the top arc climaxes.

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>>147593811
Please feel free to try and correct me anon. I'll slowly break down exactly why you're wrong.

>>147593817
He confirmed it was a date and then died.

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>>147593612
>guaranteed replies

>>147593811
>>147594041
There's nothing wrong with that post.

>>147593811
>>147594041
>nostalgiafags
Thanks for the (You)'s I guess. Wasn't expecting to get reverse shitposted today.

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>>147592344
are you trying to make me cry you fucker

>>147594149
>>147594093
>this mad
Have a (You) and go somewhere you can circlejerk

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>>147594276
Never thought I'd get to use this pic one day.

reminder that NT4 and NT7 were great

>>147593894
It hurts when Kamachi says on the afterwords if NT16 did beat OT16. The answer is hell no Kamachi. Get your shit together already.

>>147594355
I interpreted as him talking about any part of the series since then.

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>Telekinesis is the usually the most covenant and most powerful ability in most science setting
>Index doesn't have any notable ability user with telekinesis

Explain this.

>>147593093
>Shit ton of pointless new characters.
>making Touma go full retard and lie time after time Touma definitely will go back to be the good old Touma
>waste the already good character that could be used
>Tsuchimikado still missing
>Mikoto pseudo character is slow as HxH author releasing a new chapter
>plot is going nowhere since NT10
>Magic Gods bait and switch
>Yuitsu being a shit antagonist

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>>147594458
Deconstruction.

>>147594458
Didn't goggles have that? At least he saved Rakko before he ate shit.

>>147594513
>Magic Gods bait and switch
This was a good decision. High Priest was fun but they would've been Vento-tier antagonists. Yuiitsu is refreshing because she's one bitch who just won't give up.

>>147594458
>>147594458
>>147594529
>who is Accelerator

>>147569998
nigga overcame angra will pure willpower yo

How would Touma react to Emiya?
Would he think that Shirou is too crazy when it comes to heroics?

>>147594749
Don't know but I'm sure Shirou will tell him to fuck off if he gets in the way or beat his ass and walk away like Aqua did without giving a fuck about his speeches.

>>147594749
They'd probably just go hang out and get some drinks together.

>>147594749
He'd punch Shirou in the face and tell him to not do that shit, then do whatever Shirou was doing for him.

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>>147594749
>you're sacrificing yourself too much!
>don't you realize that boy with blue hair and glasses is worrying about you?!
>you're not living your life correctly!
>IDTI

>>147595016
>Then proceeds to sacrifice himself for them both and later for Kotomine himself

>>147595108
Kotomine and Yuiitsu would be an interesting interaction for sure. Also, Gilgamesh and Aleister/Aiwass.

>>147595108
I honestly think that Touma does all this insane shit that should kill him over and over again because he subconsciously knows IB won't let him die.

>ywn see Touma and Shirou fighting each other in other to stop the other from sacrificing themselves for the other.

>>147594513
The Magic Gods proved one thing, Mikoto a shit. She causes High Priest's unnecessary death.

Kamisato > Accelerator >= Touma > Shiage

Just saying.

>>147596050
>Kamisato > anything
Stop shitposting and go to bed Ellen.

>>147596050
Claire please go

>>147596050
Let's see how good Kamisoto is once Touma steals his entire harem away.

>>147596311
>implying Kamisato would give a fuck about it

>>147596311
>steals his entire harem away
Touma isn't that good. Kamachi would never allow that to begin with. It'd undermine everything the girls in Kamisato's faction have done.

>>147596050
Kamisato is the dark hero we needed, but don't deserve. Really, Toumafags should be thanking Kamisato for getting Touma out of a slump (no thanks to Othinus) and kicking him into gonna break the whole world's illusion.

>>147596494
He would once he found out the girls didn't stay for him because he is such a nice guy.

>>147596515
I honestly don't care for the harem, but I would like Salome to be taken away because it would be a shame to see her go once Kamisoto becomes irrelevant.

>>147596630
He still wants to be normal so no.

>>147596050
>Kamisato
>the worst character in the entirety of NT
>better than anyone

kek

>>147596660
He would be normal, but he would be extremely butthurt that none of the girls actually liked him.

>>147596713
No, he is like Touma, he would be more invested on a shitty anon love letter.

>>147596050
I still like Accelerator more, but current Kamisato is definitely more interesting and driven than Touma. The next volume will probably change that, though

>>147596748
Except he wouldn't get any, because none of the girls actually like him.

>>147592242
>translations never
Someone call Js06 or did he kill himself like Styl?

>>147596895
Both are the same, nobody will give them a love letter but they would rather think it might because they delude themselves to think they're normal.

>>147570350
She looks like a big stick.

>>147596630
Salome is great, but she should be with her goddamn stupid Onii-chan. I highly doubt that will happen, anyways. As of now, Kamisato is set to stick around. Touma wouldn't be trying to get him back if Kamachi wanted his story to be over. Chances are Kamisato will be the 4th protagonist and once the arc story moves back to focus on whatever Laura is planning, Kamisato will surely play a large role again since he is one of Laura's piece.

>>147596972
But Kamisoto doesn't have a Seria to pull such stunts for him. He's going to be all alone and wonder for the rest of this life if he would have been happier living in a lie of a false harem.

>>147597104
That's Salome.

>>147597039
Kamisoto is a horrible onii-chan. He locks her away and doesn't pay any attention to her. Did he pat her head even once like a good onii-chan would do?

>>147597039
Everyone is rather optimistic about Kamisato returning. I don't think he'll come back for a long while and I really doubt he'll be important enough to be considered a protagonist.

>>147597136
Salome is gone, along with the rest of the harem. It's all a lie.

>>147597167
I'm more pesimistic about Touma actually doing something not named
>muh normal school life
>muh status quo
>muh normal student you can find anywhere

>>147597153
>locks her away
To be fair, Kamisato didn't have much of a choice. She was out of control.
>pat he head
Don't recall off the top of my head, but I'm sure he has before. Plus, he was the only one who stood by her side when she was getting ostracized as a murderer before he got WR.

>>147597167
We'll have to see if he will be one or not after his character arc like it did for Accelerator and Shiage. That aside, I don't think Kamachi plans to stretch the next arc to a long length, so I think the whole thing with Kamisato shouldn't take long.

>>147597249
Well, the thing is, as of NT, none of that is true anymore. His school was destroyed, the status quo is slowly moving away and he is no longer a normal student that he can find anywhere since he didn't stop Kamisoto from sacrificing himself like any normal high school student would do.

>>147596709
Mitsuari is worse

>>147593733
>feel like filler
Maybe if you don't like Kamisato or didn't understand what purpose magic gods served. The only volume in NT the term "filler" can be applied to is NT 11.

>>147592905
Except his plans are going exactly on point. They're going too well, in fact.

>>147597905
If only some seemingly normal and irrelevant girl could step up and push him off the rails.

>>147594564
Accelerator has telekinesis' second cousin. Vectors is just inferior to telekinesis.

>>147598376
She would really be jumping the gun then

>>147598539
The vectors are just a visualization of his power (the way his Personal Reality works). What he actually controls are forces.

>>147598954
Don't wank. Accelerator's power may be divine in some way that fucks with physics when shit hits the fan, but for the vast majority of the time everything he does is explained with vector manipulation.

Animeonly here, what the fuck was up with Accelerator's black tornado wings at the end of the anime?

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>>147599258
Time to pick up the LN.

>>147593951
which thread was it I wanna read it

>>147597435
Any normal high school student would have been presenting Kamisato's hand to him using a pair of tongs. But yeah, in regard to Touma's definition of normal high school boy, NT has just been 16 novels of the world telling Touma "just give up man."

>>147599048
There is no wanking there. "Accelerator" literally comes from "particle accelerator". Read vol 22.

>>147600677
At this point, if this is all just an allegory to Jesus and the way he was bullied in NT as well, I'm just going to yell at Kamachi to leave Touma alone.

>>147600760
That doesn't bring up anything new. Vector manipulation encompasses anything that have direction and magnitude and all forms of energy falls under that, so forces are something he can already use redirection on. But he can't manipulate forces with precision or in creative ways to someone who have absolute manipulation over a specific force.

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What went wrong?

>>147601729
He forgot he wasn't Mikoto.

>>147601729
He never apologized to Uiharu so he got fucked up. He also never took what the girl in the dress said about Takitsubo seriously.

>>147601807
If High Priest actually killed Mikoto or at least injured her badly he may have gotten his punch with a few in dragons in between

>>147601248
>But he can't manipulate forces with precision or in creative ways to someone who have absolute manipulation over a specific force.
He can if he tries hard enough. The only differences are that he uses a different method to achieve it, and that his maximum range (distance) of absolute control is very low.

>>147601729
Local bully not so though after being ball'd

>>147601729
He has worst luck than even Touma. Has a great power but always manages to eventually lose to someone so much stronger than he is.

>>147601729
He thought the "the one that touched the territory of god" could handle the real thing.

>>147602084
That's true. But see, his method is through physically interacting with different forces to achieve vector control. The degree in which he can exert control over those forces used to achieve what he wants is limited. From that, it's already quite far from telekinesis that can literally act upon any force using one's mind over matter or imaginary in extreme cases by disregarding distance and methods.

>>147601918
It's really odd that High Priest didn't kill her when he had the chance. He even noticed that she was the reason that Touma was so desperate to escape instead of initiating the hot blooded manly fist fight he wanted. So why didn't he just remove the factor that was obviously getting his way? Hell, High Priest should have figured out that he would have been guaranteed a fight to the death or at least close to it if he killed Mikoto.

>>147602716
He was too caught up in the chase. He gets crazy for things he wants. Plus I guess he was humoring her since she thought she had a chance. Compare his can you hold all these buildings thing with Mikoto to him just wiping out Fiamma with not theatrics.

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>>147602846
>Fiamma randomly shows up only to get BTFO
That will never not be funny.

>>147602925
>Dammit Fiamma

>>147594458
level 6 mikoto/full nuit will have telekinesis via controlling the very electrons on the atoms.

you heard it here first.

>>147601729
>Has the power to create whatever he wants
>Wastes it on wings and beetles
His lack of imagination

>>147587410
>and the threads are generally hostile to Index
They've been getting better about this recently, I think.

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Friendly reminder that literally everything after Fiamma was a mistake, especially magic gods. When Kamachi decided to have powerlevels go higher than him was a horrific blunder that threw out any sense of danger or coherence.

>>147604706
>muh powerlevels
Friendly reminder that this arc's antagonist has gotten her ass beat every volume since she started getting directly involved.

>>147604892
Whether you like it or not, making a villain as retardedly overpowered as Fiamma and then going even higher than that is just silly. I've seen many people complain on /a/ about how the strength of the magic gods has made it hard to care about what's going on, and I agree. Thank god Kamisato got rid of them.

>>147603808
If she can really be able to control electrical pulses, she could easily control brain pulses and simply rewrite it.

>>147603808
That might be possible. Might.

>>147603808
If she doesn't becomes a nuke before she reaches level 6

>>147604970
she kinda did something similar in railgun S with using it to move her limbs. and she also managed to connect with harumi after direct shock. it's probably not impossible if we raise her power and skill.

I mean, the misaka network itself shows being able to influence the brain(for accel and the sisters).

>>147605041
im thinking the contact with AAA is to help make it more stable for her.

>>147604955
The strength of the magic gods never mattered since they weren't enemies or allies in the first place, and Aleister could still blow them the fuck out. Anons who misunderstood this are those who think the series is all about powerlevels.

I would protect the misaka clone

Index S3 never

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>>147609040
Surprise announcement next week, for sure this time.

>>147605496

It turned the entire setting into some silly parody. Especially the way he got rid of them.

It was a giant mistake. Everything after the retarded golden hands was a mistake.

>>147609770

Yay, Heavy Object S2!

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>>147609040
;_;

>>147573394
Everyone in top row are best girls

I want another spinoff but this time make it about Yomikawa's anti-skill operations.

>>147610540
Index was never a super serious LN. It has always been a light-hearted action/adventure series. It might delve into darker subjects at time, but it's firmly in the idealistic category.

>>147610559
If only...

>>147584383
>master1200.jpg

>Six trillions of years old
>In a body of 16 year old boy
Why is this allowed?

>>147578555
>Most versions of Shirou would, and did, choose the world over themselves
This is a lie.
Prisma, HF, and Fate Shirou all choose the happiness of their loved ones over the world. UBW probably would too if Rin was ever put in danger.

>>147611576

Mariydi movie! With original plot by Nagai.

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>>147611863
>it's a nagai posting episode again

Just done with Index S1.

Wtf I love mikoto now

>>147611674
So he matches up with the six trillions of years old in the body of a 16 year old girl.

biribiri

>thread has nothing to do with Mikoto other than the fact she's in the same series as Touma and Mikotoshits just have to bring her up

Fuck off

>>147614927
?

>>147614927
>Raildex threads ever caring about the OP when there's not translations on it

>>147615090
If the OP is ignored we still usually stay on whatever topic that takes off. Unless of course someone shits up the thread

>>147605732
Why does Mikoto swimsuit bothers me more than anyone else?