L was so much smarter, Light was just lucky.

>>147102253
he made a lot of mistakes because of his narcissism
but the ending was kind of an asspull

Light has alot of things going for him

-anonymity
-supernatural powers
-clear objectives

L only lasted as long as he did because he was smarter and a paranoid fuck

>>147102314
The whole beating L quest was irrelevant anyway. Playing games with L made it easier to catch him.

Just sit in your room, and use the internet to get criminal's names. Not even L can deduce which basement dweller is scribbling in a notebook.

Things Light did that were retarded:

>killed the FBI agent following him

Who the fuck does that?

>hacks iinto police server and finds out cops have profiled him as a student due to the hours the killings occur

>changed the time killings occur and advertises to the police that he has access to their files in the process

It's like he never even watched the imitation game.

L has the entire police force and the law with him.

Light was just a highschool kid and L failed to get him for ages

>>147102381
from his point of view he wasn't just trying to kill criminals but become a sort of deity so it kind of makes sense that he would smite anyone going openly against him
it would be more important than his judgements

>>147102454
How can you fail to understand that Light wasn't trying to hide like a rat? He wanted to BEAT L while getting close.

He was arrogant and had a big ego.

>>147102489
>I was being retarded on purpose guys

>>147102471
This.

Plus Killing L and then BECOMING L while being Kira is clearly the best position for him.

Has entire fucking access to names of all criminal for whatever country

>>147102471
Even if you're right, he still went about it retardedly. Even without the eye deal, he still should have had a simple time of killing L.

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>>147102528
He beat L so i don't get your point.

>>147102591
how would you find out L's name?
it's not in records and he won't tell you himself

>>147102612
Through an asspull and it took way too long. And he also got fucked over by near later on, again, due to his retardation.

>>147102630
If we also ignore the asset of misa's eyes. (See how many advantages I just have to straight up ignore to make this less overpowered?)

Anyway, he knows the other task force member's names. You can control actions before death. Wrote an elaborate scenario of events that won't directly result in L's death, but will likely kill him. One guy locks the door before he dies, trapping L. Another starts a fire.

Or just hurls some grenades into his hotel room.

>>147102674
>Through an asspull
Hahah hilarious, eveything he did to getting his memory back was easily plausible and we all know rem was devoted to Misa, you're just a mad fuck.

He got fucked because the author ruined his character for a retarded reason

>Light
>trusting anyone
>ever

>>147102762
>You can control actions before death. Wrote an elaborate scenario of events that won't directly result in L's death, but will likely kill him.
they spent an entire episode to explain why you can't do that and how you can manipulate events before death
you're mistaken

>>147102834
You can't write:

Tom shoots L then himself

But I see no reason that you can't write

Tom pours gasoline on the floor, and then shoots himself in the head. Tim comes along and flicks a cigarette at the floor and then shoots himself in the head. Jim locks the door and then shoots himself in the head.

If L happens to die in the resulting fire, well...

>>147102920
he never tested it so thoroughly but it's heavily implied that any actions resulting in the death of a bystander will not be executed

>>147102833
Whatever you want. It's not an asspull then, but it's still a symptom of his retatdation that he even let himself get backed into a corner in the first place that he had to try that hail Mary.

>>147102962
Well, then just write that: Tom the arms dealer brings me a rocket launcher and then dies.

Then shoot up L's hotel rom.

I know that the "point" was that in the end arrogance is what got Light caught, but i was always unsatisfied with how comfortable he had gotten and that in the end he fucked up so hard that he may as well have shot himself.
>>147102978
post-timeskip Light was practically king of the world, so yeah his abilities had definitely dulled.

>>147102962
Or you could do the match yourself, and just have tom spread the gas and Tim lock the door.

But now that I think about it, I think I am right. In episode one, Light sees the girls about to get raped By motorbike hooligans and the method he uses to stop them is getting hit by a semi. We see the semi driver come out and say that the motorbiker came out of nowhere.

Same thing happens to the bus hijacker. Light can make people get hit by cars driven by humans. That is literally killing by proxy with the deathnote.

>>147102920
The deaths are supposed to be possible is basicly the only limitation. Also they can't have ideas that wouldn't "unnaturally" come to their head.
So creating an "accidental" fire to die in should be pretty easy to do honestly.

>>147103071
I have less of a problem with that. I can see someone getting lazy. Still retarded of course. But a little less so. He should have left the task force eventually and gone to Persia to be a king in some mansion.

>>147103021
>>147103109
You people are seriously thinking L had never taken such a thing to consideration when he knows vaguely what Light is capable of with his killings and would allow himself to die so easily.
If Light just killed him right when they were suspecting light then it would have just baited himself out after.

Anyways pretty sure halfway in the show Light decided he want to take L's position as well as kill him.

>>147103221
>He should have left the task force eventually
he was too cocky for that.
besides, iirc didn't he want a career in law enforcement anyway?
being on the task force made the most sense strategically (as Kira), since it put him in the position to immediately put down any threats.

Of course eventually it was gonna be supremely obvious he was kira/kira was on the task force...and it was.
he would have been better off just killing in waves instead of maintaining it as a regular thing.

>>147102833
Not him, but I'd say it wasn't an asspull plot wise, but in-universe it was something that L could have never accounted for IIRC. The whole rain scene was L saying "I know I lost, but you cheated, bitch"

>>147102253
L had far more resources

>>147105610
Maybe L shouldn't have gotten greedy and kept both suspects so close to him.

>>147102253
I honestly think it was unsatisfying how Light got caught. But at the same time his ego got too large for his own good.

>>147102253
>Light was retarded
Wasn't this the premise of the whole series?
He could easily rule the entire world by falling off the radar

>>147107648
That is exactly why the live action film worked better OMP... L knew that Light and Misa were the culprits the moment they became free and "suddenly" Kira started attacking again.

>>147102833
Light beat L just because they needed to prolong the series... if not, it would have ended as the live-actions films, which I'm sure was the original intended ending...

>>147102460
Technically L had already pegged him fairly early on. (it's the whole reason he did the whole school/tennis match) But L's problem was his own ego when it came to proving the guilt of a criminal.

>>147102920
It actually can't. The Death Note can't kill people whose names aren't written. If hypothetically caused a car crash due to Death Noting a driver, only that driver will die.

>>147102920
Up to what I know, you can't use the Death Note to make a person kill another person, even if you know the later's name.
However, using a detailed and well written description you can "bypass" this, like Light did in the film.

>>147111637
Except it did.

>>147113174
When?

>>147113339
Reading can be useful. Try being less of a faggot next time, cause spoonfeeding people ain't my business.

>>147103109

>>147102253
Light was at the end of puberty when he found the DN, of course he's going to be a lot less careful and more impulsive.

L died because even though he was smart he gave up some of his autism to continue social relationships with members of the HQ (which I think are the actual perpetrators of his own death, in the manga it's even more apparent) and was forced to play mostly by the rules.

Near and Mello wouldn't have any of that and that's why they won.

>>147102920
Note logic will just make any of those guys die of heart attack before they are able to put L into any danger.

>>147113801
Illiteracy doesn't make everyone else wrong.

>>147114472
But having no source just makes that anon wrong, so...

>>147102253
>hey there Kira, you are a faggot. 1v1 me irl if you can
>kills him
>that was obvious bait and now his location is exposed
Light was a retard since the beginning. All he had to do was tickle his pride more to expose him totally.

>>147114472
>write "dude gets killed by car accident"
>dude dies by the hands of others
>somehow this is not writing the name

>>147102253
>have a perfect tool to kill people without getting caught
>still get caught

He was the dumbest MC ever

>>147113574
I read the manga and watched the anime, and I don't remember the case you are mentioning.

Mind telling me the episode or chapter number so I can check it myself?

>>147115106
>have the perfect tool
>make your alias known
>cause fear and lower crime rates
>get in to the best position you can get as being L

The series ended at episode 26 :)

>>147114801
You can't choose the driver, or the mugger who pulls the trigger, etc... you can just write a cause of death "death by car accident", "death by gunshot", etc... the Death Note will fulfill the rest.

>>147115172
Motocycle was in the first chapter, pretty sure the bus hijacker was chapter 7.

Manga > Anime

>>147115295
>The series ended at episode 26 :)

True, but in that case the series would have ended with L winning, instead of Light... that's what you get for writting a popular series, the editors force you to prolong it...

>>147115327
Did I ever imply that?

>>147115295
>>147115385
>muh series ended at episode 26

Why must you be in any legit DN thread on /a/, which is like a huge Reddit/MAL sign because of your faggotry?

Pretty sure it was stated in the series itself that

L > Light = Near + Mello >> Near > Mello

>>147115449
We are in the discussion if the Death Note can kill more people than the names written on it, that was the reason we used the "car accident" situation. But some anon keeps saying the Death Note can kill "collateral" victims, while refusing to give out the source.

>>147115622
Actually, stats mentioned Light being smarter than L.

Near + Mello > Light = Near > L > Mello

>>147115687
The rule clearly states that any collateral kill will be prevented by killing the guy in charge before it happens.

>>147115754
But you can't defy "Word of God":
When asked who is the smartest, Ohba said: "L. Because the plot requires it."
So...
L > Near + Mello > Light = Near > Mello

>>147116136
Light can't be equal to Near. The whole point was Near needed Mello.

>>147116136
Since "Word of God" was in charge of the stats written in the official databook, I must question where and when did the Ohba's quote come from.

If we must discuss power levels, L was more of a balanced version of Near and Mello's strengths, with none of their weaknesses, albeit being a much nicer person than those two (which can be considered a weakness).

>>147115687
>>147115862
How to Use: X
1. Suicide is a valid cause of death. Basically, all humans are thought to possess the possibility to commit suicide. It is, therefore, not something unbelievable to think of.
2. Whether the cause of the individual's death is either a suicide or accident, if the death leads to the death of more than the intended, the person will simply die of a heart attack. This is to ensure that other lives are not influenced.

There, case closed you faggots

>>147116233
Equal in smartness, and not much else. Being smart alone won't do you any good against another opponent with much better assets and resources. That's when Mello came in, as a formidable asset which Gevanni couldn't probably compare.

>>147116292
I already know that.

>>147102253
the ending was an asspull too
>Near: I replaced all the pages of desu noto so mikami is just scribbling on normal paper
why the fuck would you ever not hold on to it 24/7

>>147116284
>I must question where and when did the Ohba's quote come from.

Ohba said it in an interview made for the official databook, and it is in the same databook. Ohba's statement was more of a joke on his part, but he is quite right, when Near and Mello entered the game there was already some info about the Death Note somewhere around the world. On the other hand, L had to make all his conclusions out of thin air, and most of them where actually correct.

>>147116403
>I already know that.
Then why didn't you post it and stoped the faggotry instead of promoting it?

>>147116424
I mean, I don't know why you think I don't consider L as nothing short of a genius, but what you said doesn't prove anything until we see Near in place of L in the same circumstances. Probably the databook stats were referring to adult Light? Even though his memory erasing stunt received a five-star rank in the same databook, gaining what I think was the highest score.

>>147116630
I already did in >>147115862, just without actually copypasting the rule.

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What did he mean by this?

>>147102253
Light wasn't as smart as he thought he was. That's one of the biggest themes going on in these kinds of manga.

>>147116721
Then you didn't explain it well enough, dude, like you didn't mention the guy would die of a heart attack to evade the collateral deaths.

>>147117625
>>147115862
>The rule clearly states that any collateral kill will be prevented by killing the guy in charge (of the colleteral kills) (by having him die of a heart attack) before it happens.

Then again I also mentioned it in >>147114450 so I explained more than I was supposed to.

>>147117843
this anon still doesn't want to admit that everything would have been much easier, if he has just copypasted the rules from the beginning as that other anon did...

>>147117946
I don't come here to do some tedious spoonfeeding work when I remember enough to put it into words.

>>147118025
Keep telling that yourself, darling...

>>147118025
>spoonfeeding
To me, that's just a made up word. A politician's word, so young fellas like yourself can post and feel intellectual, without giving a single damn source to defend your statements. What do you really want to know? That we understood your explanation?

There's not a minute goes by we didn't understood it. Not because we're especially intelligent, or because you explain it well. But because another anon did your job of giving the source material for the statement, allowing us to confirm what you have just said.

Spoonfeeding? It's just a bullshit word. So you go on and rant about your gifted memory, sonny, and stop wasting my time. Because to tell you the truth, I don't give a shit.

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>>147118611
Are you being serious right now? For one this is one of the few boards actively discouraging spoonfeeding, and most of these non-issue arguments happen because of spotty knowledge of the source material, which is often further hindered by only watching non-canon stuff like movies, specials, literal fanfictions (AN) and the anime adaptation.

If people are going to be dicks and prove the writing of something is retarded, they must be in control to the full extent of what is known of what they are criticizing. This applies to every discussion about any piece of work. But since it's funny to act like dicks it's much more easier to skip those steps and just blindly attacking something to grow your e-penis.

You should be thankful I'm actually a nice spirit and tried to instill curiosity by giving exact, straight explanations.

>>147119288
You do realize that is just bait, right?

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>>147119402
Who cares, I managed to fire another shot at anything but manga faggots. They're what killed Death Note discussion and ruined its well deserved cult status.

>>147102833
It was the biggest fucking asspull ever. For what reason does giving up the Death Note makes you lose your memory? What the fuck was he even thinking after he forgot being Kira? "Well, I have this big ass gap in my memory, but I guess it's fine" The only reason the author added that was for Light to get out of an otherwise impossible situation. Also, L getting killed by a literal god was complete bullshit, he had no way to fight against it

>>147119850
>Also, L getting killed by a literal god was complete bullshit, he had no way to fight against it
That is why the live-action is far better, he actually finds a way

>>147119850

This. They barely even mention the fact that Light has a huge gap in his memory that spans several MONTHS, right the fuck out of nowhere. Him losing his memories was a convenient tool that Ohba thought up to keep Light from losing, like he should have right then.

>>147119665
Actually, by answering with those rants you encourage them to keep shitposting around, the best thing is to ignore them.

>>147119665
>well deserved cult status
you're kidding, right?

>>147102253
Yes

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>>147118611
>>147119288
>>147119665
Baaait...

>>147119850
>For what reason does giving up the Death Note makes you lose your memory?

It makes sense, if you don't want to be a death note owner after a few kills it would only be fair if you completely lose memory of being it's owner and eveything regarding it.

>muhhh L died to because a supernatural being was manipulated to kill off L who was dumb enough to keep such suspects near him

The amount of times Misa forgot or there was a convenient chance that she couldn't go and tell L's name to Light was just bs.

>>147119946
You're probably exaggerating the memory loss, he never spends a whole day doing shit with the death note and only partial of it.

>that FBI women who so happened to be one who is engaged with the guy stalking Light who so conveniently had connections with L and was trusted by him and was 100% correct with her hunches weren't tools to fuck up on Light

>>147113174
[citation needed]

>>147120527

Misora wasn't a tool to fuck Light up, because Light killed her within two seconds. Like in the same scene that he met her, he killed her.

He should've been caught then too, because there's no way a seasoned FBI agent like Misora would have trusted Light right away just because he mentioned L. They try to explain it away as her having been weak emotionally because of her husband's death, but I call bullshit on that. She would have been depressed, obviously, but she's still not stupid. They god-mode (lol) Light so much, and he gets way too many passes by the story.

>>147120671
What? Are you insane? Don't you see >this is one of the few boards actively discouraging spoonfeeding, and most of these non-issue arguments happen because of spotty knowledge of the source material

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>>147119850
>>147119946
>For what reason does giving up the Death Note makes you lose your memory?
>"Well, I have this big ass gap in my memory, but I guess it's fine"

Because, if you both knew the fuck you were talking about, you would be aware giving up note ownership makes you only forget about note-related memories. This has been stated since the fucking START of the series. Light remembers everything about what happened in the last year, but can't put it into context, so his brain fills in the gaps with the next thing that makes sense. He actually questions a lot of this stuff himself in a couple instances, but you apparently didn't know which just reconnects into what I said in >>147119288 about you guys lacking canonical information.

>>147120012
I don't have anything better to do, sorry.

>>147120110
As far as shonen goes, Death Note will always be one of the most eclectic and influential products, whether your the uninformed mind hive will admit it or not. If you don't like shonen that's okay, I guess. You just cannot turn down what DN achieved in that field.

>>147120776
>no citation
>continues shitposting
See How to Read

>>147120778
What the hell are you doing, man?!!! Don't you see you are spoonfeeding them? Didn't you read what you yourself shitposted here? >>147119288

>>147120673
>He should've been caught then too, because there's no way a seasoned FBI agent like Misora would have trusted Light right away just because he mentioned L.

She saw him being called out as the chiefs son and then gave out information only the top people would and then had the same suspicious of how Kira kills like her. I don't see how it's unreasonable.

>>147120778
>Unfortunately, its worldly "cult status" was achieved due to the anime.

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>>147120673
>She would have been depressed, obviously, but she's still not stupid.

She also mentioned Light reminded her a lot of L, and in hindsight I would see how, since pre-note Light had a strong sense of justice and he certainly doesn't lack detective skills. Light was just lucky he was also Kira, even he admits he dodged a very dangerous bullet.

>>147120999
Pic related, nice trips btw. I suppose they caught me.

>>147121132
You seem to know a great deal about Death Note... what happen with Light after he dies? If he can't go to heaven or hell? Where does he go?

>>147121493
Actually, as the Death Note rules clarify that when a human dies, the human can’t be brought back to life and that all humans when they die, they go the nothingness. In other words, they cease to exist and, as Ryuk said in the manga, are equal in death.

When Ryuk told Light: “Don’t think that a human who has used the Death Note can go to Heaven or Hell”, he meant that there was no rule excepting Death Note users from ceasing to exist like normal humans would when they die.

Now, of course, most faggots who has watched every Death Note product… except the original source material, the manga, believe that Light is the Unnamed Shinigami in the first “Death Note Rewrite” just because there are some “nods” to Light in his design. Ignore that and focus on reading the manga better.

>>147102253
L as the greatest detective on Earth. A book with specific rules isn't going to give you an automatic win.

You fags try too hard to shit on Light to make yourselves feel good when you know you wouldn't have lasted nearly as long doing the same thing.

>>147121537
Except it makes sense that way, faggot. All death gods are former Book users, original book was handed by the king of death. And when he means that you cant go to either heaven or hell he means you go in between.

Your explanation is contrived, pretty useless for Ryuuk to even state that otherwise if it isn't a warning, and the lack of heaven or hell makes no sense in a universe like that.

>>147114718
>this shit again
L already had a hunch where Kira was. That's why the broadcast was being aired in a specific area. More important than that was finding out certain things about the nature of Kira's killings.

Yeah Light has a big ego but it was to show who Light is up against. It was not obvious bait; no one could guess it was a decoy or that the real L was so far ahead.

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>>147122376
>All death gods are former Book users
>And when he means that you cant go to either heaven or hell he means you go in between
(You)

>>147122008
>be literally unbeatable so long as you don't try to expose yourself and get in a cat and mouse game with the detective

>Light does the only thing that will allow L to win

>>147123534
>so long as you don't try to expose yourself
Easier said than done if you've attracted the attention of the world's greatest detective.

>>147123658
That was his own fault, but even when it's narrowed down to Japan, you are still basically invincible.

>>147123780
How are you invincible if your every act would lead to him sniffing you out? He already has a hunch where you are.

>>147123883
Sitting in your room and just writing criminal's names won't give him anything to go on.

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>>147123534
Light was a madman in the earlier chapters, he even acknowledges it himself.

>>147124031
That's what Light did and he still got L on his back.

Why are we even bothering with this? He beat L.

>>147124140
No, L had to set a trap to figure out where Light was and Light walked into it by killing an innocent person because they called him a mean name.

read the book

>>147124037
Just noticed whoever translated that page confused SPK with FBI. I wish there were Viz scans readily available somewhere.

>>147124290
And what's the reason L laid the trap for in the first place? Light was just writing criminal's names from his room, and yet L was able to set up this elaborate trap.

Stop being myopic.

>>147124461
But if you ignore the trap, L has nothing to go on. L had to go fishing to get data, and Light just gave it to him like a doofus.

Screencap lind l tailor, think about it for a a day or two, and then kill him if you still think you must.

That would have also thwarted the region homing, although Light wouldn't know that, but it's a smart thing to at least wait no matter what.

I'm still disappointed that to this day no re-scan/re-translation

Or at least Viz scans, how is trash like this acceptable >>147120778

>>147102253
>Light was just lucky

The fucker finds a magical book staring out the window one day. There is no question that hes a lucky mother fucker. Doesn't mean he wasn't pretty smart.

>>147124691
You have no way of knowing it's a trap. And even if you do luck out and ignore it, L could try any number of means to smoke you out.

L is a formidable pest, that's why he had to go.

>>147124919
It's obviously a fucking trap, and I'm not a supposed super-genius like Light is supposed to be.

Light could have gotten the investigation called off by causing as much collateral damage as possible. He could have just threatened to kill the PM and every other world leader and they would have had to stop hunting him or face the world being thrown into nuclear war.

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>>147124461
>L found out Kira's first victim was in Kanto
>people whose names weren't shown were left alive
>this proves Kira is actually a legit human being that needs solid data, very close to a place where they broadcasted Kanto live news
>by doing this I can prove he actually lives in Kanto

In this scan, there's actually a missing line where L referenced Lind L. Tailor and the fact that he might have been executed because he was still a criminal, and then questions why the FBI agents were reserved the same treatment.

>>147125060
How was it obvious? How would you know it was being broadcast in a specific area or that "L" is a decoy? Light is an egomaniac but just killing "L" wouldn't magically give away so much.

You are assuming you know as much about L as he does about you.

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>>147125111

>>147125287
I once watched the show, or well, read the manga for the very first time and I saw the same broadcast Light did. I didn't have any more foreshadowing than he did.

It was obviously a trap.

>>147125466
Well, what you think you'd know or how you'd behave in a fictional situation is irrelevant. You, the reader, knowing something is up is not equivalent.

At face, there was nothing unusual about the broadcast. Light was well within reason to believe he could just off him and go about his business because there's no way he would know how much L was going on.

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>>147122376
Last episode

One thing that gets me is how casually people unconsciously white wash how L had a man take a bullet to trick Kira. People whine about how Light is wrong to kill criminals but are okay with L showing he doesn't value the lives of these people anymore than Light does. That he was on death row doesn't matter; it was unethical for the law to use a man's life as a means to an end.

No one, including Light, could rationally assume such a thing would be allowed. It showed what sort of man Light was dealing with.

>>147126917
Don't you think it was more humane L's way? If Lind L Tailor had actually survived his short speech, who would have been granted amnesty.

Shows that L has more humanity, honestly, that was way better than killing him with no chance of a reprieve.

>>147127041
How is it humane? L gained immensely from his death. He was betting on him to die.

>>147126917
His execution was scheduled the very same day. In a way, he actually redeemed the guy by making his death not a waste.

>>147127481
How wonderful, his life finally has meaning as a sacrifice. It's only right someone has the power to decide such things for others. How very unlike Light's way of thinking.

>>147127318
If your billionaire uncle was screaming in pain all the time for whatever reason, and wanted to be euthanized, would you not do it because getting money in his will after he died would mean you gained something and weren't humane anymore?

>>147128122
How is that a good analogy? Does Tailor want to die? I'm pretty sure he was sentenced to death. L wanted to make him 'useful' through his death. He WANTS him to die. Do you want your uncle to die so you can gain from it?

Sounding pretty evil right now, anon.

>>147128355
didn't answer my question, I see.

>>147127889
>L: "guys pls dun execute the criminuls"
>Law: "Fuck off"
>L: "guys pls let me use one of your prisoners which are set to die today, could really help me and interpol"
>Law: "k whatever"

>How very unlike Light's way of thinking.

Did you forget Yotsuba saga Light going full moralfag on L? His own priorities might even be more fucked up than Light's and are definitely more akin to Sherlock Holmes, just he believes that the law should take care of criminals, not his own judgement.

>>147128404
The analogy is faulty so no answer.
>>147128437
Both are considering the criminals in terms of utility value.

>>147128635
>Both are considering the criminals in terms of utility value.

And guess what, Light and L have a lot of things in common, including the childish "not wanting to lose" attitude. Various people noticed it, even L himself. Did you also forget the way he treated Misa, which I remember had absolutely no access to food and drinks? L was ready to do ANYTHING to find out Kira's identity and arrest him.

>>147128635
>goes on internet forum
>I refuse to talk to people

>>147128802
So we're on the same page? That was my point: Light and L are similar but people will whitewash L's actions like betting on a man's death to get results. Maybe there was a miscommunication.
>>147128835
>make bad analogy
>get upset you're not obliged
Perhaps that's why people don't talk to you.

>>147129027
Well, I'm absolutely L wouldn't have killed innocent people as Light certainly did. Some whom weren't even a threat to him, just so he could yell "lel tricked ya"-

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>>147129027

>>147129199
Yeah but he's still pretty ruthless and twisted in his own way. Like I said, to use a man like that is not typical behavior for someone assumed to be a law-abider. That's definitely what Light thought he was at first: straight-laced lawfag.

For that sap, his life wasn't much better in L's hands than it was in Light's. He was a sacrifice to further their aims.

Oh yeah, the time L used a pseudonym and if Light wrote it in the DN, he would wind up killing a pop star. L was no joke.

>>147124828
Oh nevermind, there are scans of all the Viz volumes

>>147130048
L didn't even know of the DN, but he knew Light had seen the actual Hideki Ryuga on TV a few days earlier.

It was just another attempt at tricking Light subconscious (which was then in full panic mode) into killing the popstar, since one of the assumptions was that he did all mentally, since the 5 days of surveillance didn't reveal anything of use. Of course that's a moot point, but better have a trick up your sleeve just in case.

So, wow, that actually helps proving >>147129539's point a little.

>>147130130
Where did you find them?

>>147130345
That's me too, I had just remembered that part. He didn't know of the DN but he was really testing the waters there. Good thing he was right.

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what did near mean by this?

>>147119944
is the film that much better?

>>147121214
death note was pretty popular before the anime was released.
it was popular enough to get a live action film within two years of debuting in Weekly Jump

>>147121537
>Light is the Unnamed Shinigami in the first “Death Note Rewrite”
what is this

>Look up Death Note copycat cases in real life
>Bunch of people were arrested over years spanning
>A lot of which had to do with people making a notebook similar to a Deathnote and simply writing peoples names down
>Nothing else
>Busted and arrested despite not really doing anything

Schools apparently had worldwide searches for these fucking things kinda weird.

>>147135165
It's death threats. If I wrote down a note and handed it to someone that said: I'm going to kill you lmao, I am pretty sure that is a crime.

Although, since they weren't actually threatening anyone and just keeping the book to themselves, I dunno if that's a crime.

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>Genius
>Uses women as accomplices

Pick one

>>147135264
Albeit some actually killed people once their name was written, but the rest were being silly with it and non-chalant from what the reports mentioned.

>>147123534
>>147123658
You guys realize at the end of the day its a story. You literally cant be like "o light shouldnt of exposed himself to L" how is the author suppose to keep the reader interested. Would you have a read a manga about a guy who sits in his room searching the internet writing names down all day.

>>147140148
Well, I watched sword art online.

>>147102253
Did you even watch the show? There are reasons why it took him so long, dumbass

>>147130604
max autism

>>147143365
What are they besides retardation?

>>147119288
>non-canon stuff like movies, specials ... and the anime adaptation.
Different continuities, not "non-canon". Other than that, I agree.

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>>147102253
>L was so much smarter, Light was just lucky

Nah. Light was the most intelligent character in the series, which is why only Near and Mello working together could stand a chance(and PIS/CIS)

>>147144800
>Different continuities, not "non-canon"
Not in the source material = Not canon

Light would've easily won and became ruler of earth if he wasn't so retardedly arrogant.

>>147145016
Yes, not canon to the source material. Just like how "The Thing" comics are canon to the movie afaptation, but not to "Who Goes there?".
I wish there was a word to distinguish between creative canon and continuity-based canon, though.

>>147116292
>if the death leads to the death of more than the intended
Obviously the death note cannot cause the death of more than the intended directly, but the episode with the FBI agent showed that the death note can be used to aid in killing more than just the original person's whose name was written. It just requires an extra step outside of the notebook itself, which just requires elaborate planning.

>All these cancerous Lfags
Why do good series have such shit fanbases?

>>147102253
Common knowledge, everybody knows that Light made way to many mistakes.
-Killing fake L
-Getting close to L
-Kill FBI agent
-Rely on misa way to much
So let me get this straight... he kills fake L, then he gets close to L just because he wanted to win (?), makes a shitty ass mistake with the fbi agent, relies on somebody who is brain dead to kill the best detective in the world, then he beats L with an asspull. Then he STICKS around the police force, baiting N and fucking loses to the cheapest shit ever.

>>147145403
Stepping foot in the warehouse at all was a mistake.

His fucking plan was literally: my guy will open the door and read their names.

What if they saw the door open and stopped him when he had only written two names? What if they had masks on? Like how they had masks on?

Kira should have just nuked the warehouse or something. Or bring a gun. Write the names of all the task force members you know and just shoot the rest.

>>147145547
I swear. Light's decision-making skills are literally garbage.

>>147145630
I do sort of sympathize with the Lind l tailor killing. Like, alright, a god complex can't allow a direct challenge like that, it's best to shut it down.

But you could ponder it at least five seconds. Maybe write that Lind l tailor emails you all the investigator faces and names of his allies before he dies.then write him giving a speech on TV: no one can stand up to kira, and then kill him.

>>147145547
>>147145630
>thinking everything can be solved by nukes or guns
'Murrica

>>147145754
>Know that other person is serial killer
>Don't bring a fucking gun
Are Europeans retarded as well?

So:
>Why Light decided to face L directly, nobody gives a shit about you writting on your notebook.
>Never exploited the second Death Note.
>Not a real reason to make a second Kira or give him the Death Note.
>How many pages that shit had?

>>147145547
>Kira should have just nuked the warehouse or something.
This, he should have stopped playing these games and just killed them immediately.

>>147145885
I assume the pages were infinite.

And L never had a confrontation with light where he was writing in the book.

>>147145921
I meant open, after the broadcast, approaching to him. My bad anon.

Everyone talks about getting a deathnote. How dope would it be just to be Ryuk though?

Just fuck around and watch the best drama ever. He knew going into the warehouse that it was the end for Light because he can see the lifespan but he has no idea what will go down.

Let's face it, no matter what happened, Ryuk was going to take Light's life. Light was truly just lucky that Ryuk was bored for the time being. He could've easily finished Light off after L died since there was no one coming after him after a couple of years.

>>147146019
90% of the problem of getting a deathnote is you have to use it or the shinigami will, at best, let you relinquish and lose your memory, or just kill you and give it to someone fun.

>>147146015
Now that I think about it, Near had won no matter what once L entered the warehouse. He probably had a back up plan. Near knew that his plan had succeeded when he could see ryuk enter the warehouse because he held the deathnote. If he had not seen that he probably had people on standby outside to arrest mikami.

He had four agents right? Only two were by his side in the warehouse.

why didn't L just leak a fake name to light of a criminal and document the leak trail before arresting him?

I don't feel like making a new thread for this:

>>74292874

>>147147919
Ah forget it then. Maybe you need 3 arrows to link to other boards I forget. It wasn't that interesting, just a quote about the direction of the new deathnote from the director.

Basically Nolan's batman.

Wasn't it all gonna end with him winning but Mikami fucked up?

>>147102454
If never killed Raye Penber he'd never been suspected by L and thus never a suspect ever. He let his impatience get the better of him though

>>147148291
>getting tailed by FBI
>not a suspect

>>147145403
>then he beats L with an asspull.

Hahaha you fags love being buthurt and coming of with literal bullshit instead of accepting that L fucked up.

There was no asspull so keep being in denial.

It was clearly obvious the 2nd half Light wasn't even in character since he never puts his trust on other people and comes up eith alternative solutions. And why are you saying he relied on Misa too much? She almost fucked up eveything for him and just used her like a tool. Even when she says she forgot L's name Light isn't even mad since again, he never puts his trust on people like that.

>>147148720
>the final coffin nail was trusting someone
>yeah he trusted no one

>>147148396
They were tailing lots of people, I mean if Ryuk hadn't mentioned to him that he was being followed he would never have noticed, and thus would never have given himself away. It's not like Penber could see him noting things down inside his house, at that point Light still looked like a generic student from anyones perspective.

Honestly a lot of the stuff Light did was unnecessary, even the 'chips' scene. Recording Light watching the news and jotting things down in a notebook doesn't reveal anything, L had no idea what mechanism he was using to kill, and would never in a million years have claimed it was a supernatural ability projected from a paper and pen notebook.

>>147148784
Expanding on the stuff about the potato chips scene, the premise was that if criminals died after Light saw them on the news it would implicate him right? But they were ON THE NEWS. So what if the criminals die after Light sees them on the news? Literally everyone in Japan watching television would be seeing these criminals at the exact same time.

>>147148784
Nah, there were only 12 people getting tailed. He managed to go from 6 fucking billion to 12 in 4 episodes. There were 200 cops and their families they were able to narrow it down to because he retardedly hacked police servers, and he made the top dozen most likely culprits because they realized he had to be a student because he kept killing in a certain time frame.

>>147148768
Yes that's the thing i have a problem with the 2nd half. That was not in his character to do such a thing and place his bets on someone else entirely

>>147148784
>be the son of the chief
>not be the most suspected because he would have access to highly classified info unlike the other kids

>>147148946
Yeah, he definitely should've been scheduling them to die round the clock from the start, and using his dads extremely specific police database was dumb as hell.

Although in that situation I suppose the best move would've been to leak the database onto the internet before hand, making it publicly available.

>>147149043
I don't think that changes much. They probably still would assume initial access was a cop family.

>>147149041
Even with this, how many police officers are there in Japan with kids? Surely yagami souchiro isn't the only policeman in Japan with a school aged child.

>>147149017
Not out of character for his retardation though.

In the three years he lead the pointless task force he should have picked a day and wrote that all the members walked into a place only they know about and hung themselves. Then Light buys a plane ticket and everyone assumes he just disappeared too. No one remains that can find him.

I still sort of wish that they did an ending where after he beats L it flashes forward like normal, but about fifteen minutes into the next episode, Light just has a heart attack in mid sentence and dies.

It's never explained if it was natural or caused by a notebook, and at the funeral for light task force members wonder if light really was kira and that is why the killings stopped with his death.

Then it ends.

>>147149306
But the fucking Chief was the one in the Kira case so it narrows it down.

The fact that they already guessed it was a student makes him an obvious suspect.


>>147149371
No it was out of character you dumb fuck, and holy shit are you retarded. What you're suggesting literally makes it more obvious, once someone eventually finds those dead bodies and then don't see Lights body there he would be immediately suspected by other investigators and how can you not understand that by being the new L it was the best position for him doing his Kira shit.

He was an idiot for trying to play god.

>>147149614
They never found the body of the FBI agent's wife.

Hell, you realize normal murderers can make bodies vanish right? Fire or acid or something.

>>147149614
Being in the L position sure didn't give any advance warning when the oddly named Mellow(who really had no chill) just came along and said: BTW, I am going to take your deathnote, and your sister and kill your dad and then escape in my missile and there is fuck all you can do about it.

Being L painted a target on his back and was the only lead mellow and near had. He should have destroyed it.

>>147148720
>It was clearly obvious the 2nd half Light wasn't even in character
his character changed.
during the time skip he got more arrogant and more cocky, and basically his skill got rusted and dusty since he was unchallenged for so long.

>>147146019
>He could've easily finished Light off after L died since there was no one coming after him after a couple of years.
Ryuk confirmed for liking filler.

But really, i think Lights interpersonal drama during those years would have amused Ryuk, wihout getting too stale

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I prefer this version of the story.

>>147147919
>>147147966
what board was it from?

>>>/tv/74292874
>>>/co/74292874
just making a guess

>>147149579
kek
maybe in the american version

>>147150147
It'd be a bit of a funny troll, but honestly, it 'd be too easy to let Light die with no warning. It was way too cathartic to see his breakdown realizing he had lost it all.

>>147102454
>Thanks to kill the FBI agents made 90% of the police give up on Kira case

>>147150220
>It was way too cathartic to see his breakdown realizing he had lost it all.
i liked it alot.
it was a cruel irony for the guy who was on top of the world and so composed to just go ape shit and freak out.
he should have just accepted it or wrote down his own name honestly (can one commit suicide by note? i cant remember all the rules)

I kind of wanted Light to win in the end, but there is no reasonable way to conclude the story like that in my opinion

>>147150005
How does becoming more arrogant means that he ends up putting faith in more people?

If he's known to never put his full trust in people why the fuck would that change for him just because his old competitor lost? He ain't met anyone that would change such a thing for him and all he did since then was carry on with his mass murders.

>>147150727
>How does becoming more arrogant means that he ends up putting faith in more people?
he's not putting his faith in people so much as believing he's a master manipulator and everyone is going to do what he wants them to do, when he wants them to do it.
and for 3 years that was entirely accurate.

>>147151429
>he's not putting his faith
He literally is. He was 100% putting his entire faith that Mikami would do his job correctly. Light even over the years with L has witnessed people fucking up for him and just because he believes he can manipulate people doesn't justify him being retarded enough to willingly trust someone to 100% complete their task.