stupid sexy Vados
Can we please not talk about time travel in this thread?
>>147047961
But Im fucking right, Cell's timeline came first.
I'm so conflicted about Zamasu.
On the one hand, you have a villain with about the most basic and boring of villain motivations.
On the other hand, kaoishin being in the spotlight is something I've always wanted, his ki attacks are awesome, and I love his voice and attitude.
>>147047977
You're not right, literally everyone is arguing against you.
Besides can we just drop it. I'm so sick of fucking dumbass time travel that doesn't even make sense, who cares which came first, it doesn't make sense either way.
I'm sick of fucking power level arguments that never mattered in the first fucking place.
I'm just sick of shit. I'd rather just talk about Super, or our favorite characters, or fucking even Xenoverse OC headcanones, fucking something, please.
Why do ningen argue so much about which format is better?
>>147048189
What kind of mom would Future Mai be? And present Mai?
BATMAN SUBS FUCKING WHEN
USELESS NINGENS
>>147048246
Present Mai? Probably not a good one since she's 10.
Future Mai would probably be a very good mom, very protective and caring. Kind of like Gine I'd imagine.
>>147048226
ZAMASU
Because people are stubborn and don't want to admit they are wrong, regardless of the side they choose, that is why.
>>147048189
Two idiots is not everyone.
How come Freeza is so jacked?
>>147048308
Who cares, I'm sick of hiring about it, its a dumb argument for all of you involved. Its a silly manga about fights and comedy and stuff getting retconned constantly. Who cares, just enjoy the ride.
When will Timebreaker Bardock meet Goku?
>>147048353
I care, because I'm right.
>>147048381
Who knows. Have they ever even met in a game beyond two players matching up against each other?
I don't actually recall them ever actually meeting.
>doesn't have any proof that present Zamasu is evil
>kills Zamasu anyway
>Beerus' logic
>>147048381
If I recall, in his source material he only fights/meets Ginyu Goku to stop Towa from taking control
>>147048397
see >>147048307
>Because people are stubborn and don't want to admit they are wrong, regardless of the side they choose, that is why.
You could be right, you could be wrong, who cares, enjoy the ride.
Is Krillin one of us? He literally married a robot unlike everyone else in the cast
>>147048420
Beerus is Chaotic Neutral, he doesn't really care. He destroys, simple as that. Well unless delicious food is involved.
>>147048420
I don't knkw why but I can't help but play the Kai preview music in my head while I read that, not the Super preview music
>>147048445
Sort of, though there are others I'd marry over 18 personally.
>>147048444
Either way I think it's pretty clear the people who think the Future Trunks timeline came first are retarded. There might be some questions either way but the FT way is full of headcanon.
>>147048516
Who. Cares.
When will there be no episode? Was it next week?
>>147048381
I still wish that they had done more with radditz. I mean he's goku's damn brother. they should wish back for him, even if it's only to see his face when he sees goku's and vegeta's power
>>147048557
Next week, yes.
>>147048607
I think he'd instantly turn into yamcha and just give up fighting
>>147048629
ZAMASU is literally hitler
>>147048607
I still stand by that Nappa should have been the first Saiyan that showed up, with Raditz/Vegeta showing up later. Both of them surviving and Frieza being the one to kill Raditz after he told Goku of their father and Planet Vegeta's destruction.
>>147048639
He'd probably strive to be strong like them knowing him. He admits he's weak to Bardock in one of the games and Bardock hugs him and says he's still proud of them. Raditz would be a fun uncle though, same with Nappa had he lived, but we'd just have more "Why aren't they used more, why are they so weak, more saiyans fuck!" You get the point.
>Vegeta has a better relationship with his wife than Goku does with Chi-Chi
>Vegeta is a better father to his own and others compared to Goku
Kinda sad when you think about it
>>147048761
Vegeta's family is just better anon.
>>147048639
>>147048786
>>147048786
Vegeta's mama must have strong genetics.
>>147048761
And yet Goku is always the hero while Vegeta is always the jobber. Who's the real winner then?
>>147048818
>>147048860
Good to see you Ginefag
>>147048856
Tien is the real winner, he got to fuck Launch at least once. Man it'd be real nice to see her again, since Toriyama brought back Mai and made her fucking awesome.
>>147048705
Nah those are the creator gods specially that zenoshit
>>147048880
The Gods have deemed that an argument was happening last thread. We need a purging of cute monkey girls.
Monkey girls are always top tier, I wonder why.
>>147048920
They're tough yet squishy in certain places, friend. It's delicious
>>147048786
I think you meant Bulma is better. Vegeta is a loser and everyone genetically related to him is a loser as well
>>147048946
And pretty short.
>>147048920
>>147048941
And this is why I went against my childhood extinct and made a Saiyan Girl for Xenoverse, we don't have enough of them. Plague's Saiyan girls taught me a lot. Granted that was after I made a Freezy Pop named Snowflake because he's speshul.
>>147048381
>no gine
kys
>>147049064
We can fix that.
>>147048941
>Date Bra
>Have to deal with emo manlet father and the slut of a mother
Not worth it in the end
>>147048413
They meet in Bardock's Saga in Burst Limit, where he challenges Goku to see how strong he's become.
After Goku turns Super Saiyan to start up round 2, Bardock is satisfied and says they'll fight again someday before disappearing.
>>147049159
What a big softy.
>>147047931
She is sexy
>>147049203
DB is good with blue ladies...shit ladies in general.
>>147048728
for you
I wish Whis was my friend
>>147049094
Thank you anon. I feel better now
>>147049246
yummy
>>147048728
>>147049271
Ugh ... can you please go back to /Tv/???
First you ruined /Co/ my favorite board and now you are trying to taint /A/ with your toxicity ...
is episode of bardock canon?
>>147049246
True
>>147048226
ZAMASU
It's not our preoccupation.
>>147049428
It is not. But this qt is.
>captcha
>pick the street signs (click them)
>wrong, those are not street signs, skip it
>new captcha-pick the street signs
>nothing but palm trees and apartments
Google sucks.
batman when...
>>147049428
Episode of Bardock was a what if created by someone who really liked Bardock
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/naho-ooishi-episode-bardock-introduction/
>>147049546
>>147049611
I will never forget Gine. The only canon full saiyan female with a name.
>Goku's expression
>>147049632
What is it trying to convey?
>>147049632
And now Goku couldn't give two shits about any of his family, that includes his wife, kids, father in law, and grandkid.
Goku is an asshole, the only one he gives a fuck about is Grandpa Gohan.
>>147049632
But Goku was a baby when Gohan found him
>>147049632
I would rather see this flashback animated, than that faggot of Trunks saying bye to his waifu
>>147049632
>An alien is sent to earth by his parents minutes before the destruction of his home planet and their deaths, as a tyrannical dictator attacks. The alien is endowed with super strength and has amazing abilities.
Has anyone ever mentioned to Toriyama the whole superman thing?
>>147049690
His age has been retconned, he was now 3 when Gohan found him, and 14 when Dragon Ball started instead of 12.
>>147049699
I would like to see it animated as well, and expanded on, but the Trunks scene with Mai was pretty good. Felt like some actual chemistry and caring between two characters as a relationship was actually forming for the future, and the music fit it rather nicely.
>>147049715
still waiting..
>>147049715
I don't think he actually is beyond the name Superman and Clark Kent.
>[Laughs] Well I want to say that I am not too familiar with Superman, but a hero is only as strong as his creator or writer allows him to be. Son Goku is designed to be an underdog. I think a lot of the younger audience can relate to Son Goku because of this. I don't think Dragonball would be interesting otherwise.
>>147048246
Both seem like they'll be caring and loving moms.
so how many time lines like precisely?
>>147050263
BATMAN SUBS WHEN, LADS
>>147047931
So the real question is: Is Cell in the past a Cell from Trunk's "Home TIme", or is he a Cell from a timeline that trunks affected by going back, but where the future refused to change and created a time where the androids lived long enough for the future to be nearly identical to FTrunk's future with the sole exception that he wasn't strong enough to kill cell because he never faced him?
>>147050180
There is no evidence to suggest that Trunks going back in time created two pasts, one where his warning worked and one where it didnt.
Also, if you're starting with the FT timeline like youve been arguing, that means that Cell was already there in the past. In the split past where Trunks warning didnt help, Cell wouldve been LONG awake and Trunks wouldve stood no chance at all.
Nice try though.
>>147048629
>Zamasu gets rekt by Beerus
Good.
>>147050311
In a few hours.
>>147050336
It's a possibility if Cell's lack of involvement meant the group was eventually defeated by the androids.
>>147048629
>But future trunks still feels uneasy
No shit, since events affected by his time travel don't affect his home time.
Did Super's Trunks not watch Dragon Ball Z?
>>147048629
>Beerus kills present Zamasu
subs when
>>147050314
There are 4 Cells.
Future Trunks' kills two. One in incubation stage, and one in Imperfect stage.
Gohan kills one in the Perfect Stage.
The other we have no idea, presumably still incubating by the time Buu arrives in that timeline.
Was 18 a virgin or some turboslut like Bulma?
>>147050411
No, it's not a possibility, because when FT Trunks first went back in time, Cell was already sleeping in the ground, meaning if your dumbass theory is right, Trunks split a timeline with two Cells. There is no way Trunks could last to an adult with the Androids AND Cell around. Plus even if he did survive and Cell was off masturbating for 17 years and not absorbing the Androids that would be self-fulling and mean Cell went back in time to sleep in the ground from a history he was ALREADY sleeping in the ground. No. Nice try though.
>>147050513
She was a virgin until Krillin unleashed his destructo disk into her disk drive
ZAMASU
WHERE IS MY TEA
ZAMASU
>>147050457
Well considering he lived it, he should know.
Its more like he's unsure that even Beerus could kill Zamasu.
>>147048307
>ZAMASU
>>147050513
Well she was a hot 18 year old prior to Dr. Gero cyborging her up. I'd assume she wasn't.
>>147050469
Can't wait for future Zamasu to kill them all and if Gowasu survives he's an asshole
>>147050572
ZAMASU
>>147050543
ZAMASU
Clearly you haven't seen my newest GodTube video. Let me show you it.
Its called Black Tea - Tea Review #126, afterwards, I'll show you a cool race called Namekians. They work like plants AND slugs. Did you know that tea comes from a plant? I bet Namekians would make really good tea.
>>147048786
>King Vegeta was a huge man
>His two sons are manlets
Disappointment
>>147050514
I think it's a possibility since the "HOME" timeline when he is killed by cell seems to be one where cell never showed up, meaning one that cell had not gone back to. In other words, the alternate to the timeline that Cell Split. In both timelines, trunks went to the past and tried to save the past, but in the one that wasn't affected by Cell's time travel, he was killed by cell and THAT cell is who traveled back.
I think I'm understanding it. Cell's split created dobule the timelines.
>>147050619
>I bet Namekians would make really good tea
>>147050649
>he is killed by cell seems to be one where cell never showed up,
Im too tired for this bullshit.
>>147050657
They would Lord Beerus. They understand the subtleties of water and plant life. Certainly better than Zamasu's tea. I have to get him to remake it constantly, its impure.
>>147050572
if they both die we can still have tea time episodes!
>>147050713
I thought Namekians don't eat or drink.
>>147050619
>They work like plants
>tea comes from a plant
Run, Namekians, run!
>>147050263
Isn't that Future Gohan's hair?
>>147050806
Better bet your hand virginity
>>147050263
>Mai calls the kids by name: Haru and Maki
Considering they are named. They might play some kind of slightly bigger role. I wonder..
>>147050469
>>>/v/351420081
>>>/r9k/
Fuck off to your own board shithead.
what the fuck is this? i don't see this sub name before...
When will Goku be proud of Gohan and Goten? Well specifically Goten since Gohan made Goku proud during the Cell saga.
>>147048629
So Present Zamasu is destroyed and Trunks go to the future check if everything is alright? Gee, what could go wrong?
Btw, if this goes like this, isn't it a bit suspicious that Beerus and Whis are letting Gowasu get killed?
>>147050863
jkanime are spic subs, those are the 2 hour subs that come out every week
>>147050860
Literally the only person on this board triggered by feelshit. Quit posting feelshit to you fucking hypocrite.
>>147050863
Probably the worst subs possible for this show.
>>147048445
18 isn't a robot. 18 is a cyborg human. Thats why in the old video games her name was C 18 Cyborg 18. Funi thought Android sounded cooler than Cyborg so they rolled with it.
>>147050911
No.
>>147050892
>>147050913
Hmm, I'll avoid then and not download it.
>>147050877
Goku will never be proud of Goten because Goten will never be relevant to the plot, he's just there to sell toys.
Toriyama explictly stated he made Goten to add another little kid character for the 6 year old audience because Gohan was now grown up.
>>147050954
Just download Batman subs once they are out.
>>147050965
That's too cruel, anon
>>147050965
Come to think of it has Goten EVER done anything important? He spent all that time learning how to fuse with Trunks and then they just got swatted by Evil Buu.
>>147050777
Pretty sure I remember them having water absorption like plants.
>>147048786
Also I just realized. King Vegeta is the only full blooded Saiyan without black hair.
>>147050670
No no it makes sense.
Cell's arrival doubles the timelines. There's a timeline where cell never arrived and the androids killed everyone, where our future trunks comes from. Then there must be a timeline where cell arrived but TRUNKS DIDN'T. And a timeline where Cell arrived and Trunks did the first time, but NOT THE SECOND. Cell could be from that split. In that time, trunk's first warning alone didn't help them against the souped-up androids, and they were all killed Cell for whatever reason must have also failed, because the trunks of that timeline managed to succeed in killing his androids in the future. Then he was killed before he traveled further back to the past to fix what he couldn't with his first warning.
>>147051020
Got upset many times when Gohan was in danger, usually being the first to try and help him while everyone else watches.
>>147047931
this is my theory about Black identity. Let's see the evidence so far
>ridiculously powerful, more than a god like Beerus at the very least, who vegeta and goku are supposed to be able to defeat at this point, but they job hard against him
>he enjoys the name "ssj rose" and shows a certain level of vain not found in goku, and a little bit gay desu
>Beerus is dead, so he is completely unnaccounted for in the alternate future, and put with Samazu as soon as he was appointed kaioshin
>he is a nice guy, but in truth, we dont know his past, and tru alignments so far.
screencap this
when you think about it, this is kinda obvious desu
>>147051020
Nope, he's just fusion fodder.
>>147051047
what was wrong with posting this with your trip
>>147048629
>no episode on 18th
>>147051089
trips are for fags
>>147050806
>>147051047
Alright buddy
>>147050540
I just read this insuper kami guru'svoice
>>147051172
then why have a trip in the first place retarded niggen?
>>147050977
BUT WHEN
Wouldn't this work?
Doesn't Gowasu have any kind of fighting technique ?
>>147051230
No. There's only 3.
Trunks 1. The universe Cell came from. Ironically this is the Trunks that killed Frieza because he EXPRESSLY mentions he's going back to that point to explain how to beat the androids. Cell kills him and steals the machine.
Trunks 2 cuckaluck boogaloo.
This is the current future universe with the pussified and inexperienced Trunks. You can see a huge character difference between his ORIGINAL incarnation where he's confident as fuck and then his panicky shitfaced incarnation. That's why he matures so much in the time chamber while the original Trunks would have probably pushed Vegeta and himself further through his mentality.
3, Normal timeline.
Or you could claim that the 2 Trunks were one from the manga and then the one from the Mirai Trunks OVA thing since he's a whiny bitch in that too.
>>147048890
He'll de-aged Launch for Black. Because Goten gets absolutely no one.
>>147051353
>Trunks 1. The universe Cell came from
False. Trunks Killed Cell in Trunk's time.
I'm going by mangaonly by the way so don't feed me shit from the anime flashbacks or specials.
>>147051274
Maybe. I'm thinking he could be Black. I wouldn't know what the motivation is though. It would explain the Potara earring, the time ring and possibly the similar ki. I'm assuming he'll survive Zamasu's assassination attempt in the present.
>>147051353
>>147051393
Also, that aside: There's undeniably 4 timelines, because there's been 3 trips plus 1 "untouched" timeline. Where the trunks we know is from. Not counting the timelines made in Super, of course.
>>147051393
Manga has it as well when he's talking to Piccolo.
>>147051406
Also it may have helped that he was studying Goku on the godtube thing before somehow becoming Black.
>>147050363
>A shitty meme cat kills an interesting character
Not goodd.
>>147051467
BUT WHAT IS "SOON"
>>147051438
Manga has the trunks from cell's timeline trying to make a return trip, yes. He's killed and cell goes back.
It's honestly the only place Cell could be from, unless we assume Toriyama fucked up (likely) and forgot that time travelers can't affect their own timeline so cell simultaneously came from the Trunks Unaltered timeline, and in going back made trunks time paradox him away. .
>>147050877
Goku is already proud of them
King Vegeta's color scheme is so fucking dumb.
>Enter Dragon Ball thread
>People speculating on stuff that was explicitly explained
Every time
>>147051648
About what exactly
>>147048818
>>147048880
these remind me of this post in a past db thread where all saiyans who appeared on screen arent enemies but get along well and fight/ live together
>>147051778
>>147051624
Just watch the spicsubs.
>>147051878
>spicsubs.
>>147049632
>This disgusting retcon
>>147051878
But those are inferior to a real language.
>>147051871
Minus is fucking garbage. Radditz deserved to live way more than Vegeta, goku a cold motherfucker.
>>147051924
Enjoy waiting, monolingual.
>>147051878
>not watching raws
>>147051955
spic spotted
Why does Zamasu look like this guy when he grins.
>>147050911
I want to feel Pan
>>147052024
How's not watching your favorite weekly show treating ya
>>147052024
Not him but good thing I'm also a spic. Unlike you we can watch Super pretty much after it airs.
Feels good to be a spic!
>>147051878
What's worse: Animewake or spicsubs?
>>147052067
why does no one mention pafu subs
they have a timer when their sub will be out
>>147048290
...zamasu...
>>147049782
>Son Goku
>is designed to be an underdog
wot
>>147052161
>>>/r9k/
subs when?
>>147049632
Who is Burdock?
>>147052302
I want to be her god of destruction!
>>147052302
Already out senpai.
jkanime.net/dragon-ball-super/58
>>147052339
HNNNNNNNNNNG
Guys, guys, what if...what ifDICKBUTT?
>>147049734
But he was always 14 at DB. That dialogue with Bulma in the shower tells you his age
>>147051955
It's Piccolo who killed Radditz.
>>147052385
He couldn't count yet.
WHERE THE FUCK IS BATMAN
>>147052341
no habla espanol
>still no batman subs
it's one of those days isn't?
>>147050844
only to bait those ningen loving ningens
>>147048629
>The 'Zero Mortals Plan'
I want to build a time wall, to keep them out, and I want to make the Ningens pay for it!
Here's a theory:
There could be 2 Zamasu through either time fuckery or Super Dragon Balls
Zim Zam A wished for dat hot Goku bod after meeting Goku
Zim Zam B wished for immortality having never met Goku
>>147049016
>against my childhood extinct
ESL-kun plz go
>>147048629
Wait if Gowasu is dead and Beerus kills Zamasu (thus apparently eliminating all of U10 kaioshin), doesn't Beerus also indirectly kill the U10 god of destruction?
>>147052781
I think the idea is to kill Zamasu before he kills Gowasu who is linked to the GoD
>>147052801
Yeah but that one says:
>present day Zamasu has murdered Gowasu
Which would imply they were too late to save present Gowasu.
Whys theorizes that Zamasu used the time ring to make 2 wishes
He theorizes that he made the first wish to make Goku Black and the 2nd one to make himself immortal
But it's only a theory. As Beerus said, it doesn't explain why Goku Black has a similar Ki to Zamasu
>>147052339
>tfw you will never be a pudgy overweight purple cat God of Destruction who as a pussy gets more pussy and the best pussy in the multiverse
Just destroy my shit
>>147052781
we don't even know if U10 even has a god of destruction.
>>147052825
But that also means the god of destruction is rip already. So Zamasu's existence is not important
>>147052849
>But that also means the god of destruction is rip already.
Probably, unless Zamasu got auto-promoted to full kaioshin. We don't really know how the promotion works, maybe it really is as simple as putting the earrings on?
That said he'd probably want to god of destruction out of the picture anyway.
>>147052369
>>147052839
what a goddess she is i wouldn't mind being her god of destruction any day of the week.
>>147048629
it's simple
we kill the mortals
>>147052887
it's really weird.
Once they explained that all of existence works like a giant corporation with ranks and jobs things really got weird.
Are universes like franchizes to Zeno?
>>147048728
>magnus opus
>>147052926
>Are universes like franchizes to Zeno?
They are more like "shut up or I'll wipe you out" to him.
>>147047959
RIP PBX.
>>147052926
This and the looking down on humans bit makes me think of Battlefield Earth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8z7-DIa1As
Basically what I'm saying is that when Dragonball Evolution Super comes out, Zamasu should be played by John Travolta.
>>147052893
THICC
>tfw she will never use her thighs to crush your skull
Why even live?
>go a yeart to the future to make the wish
>there future zamasu is there
>both of them have the same intentions
This can happen but I don't really have an idea about how do you add the inmortality and black to this with just one wish.
>>147048345
That shit used the coolest, but then I realized that the japs consider that level of being jacked as homosex and /fit/ doesn't help with that. Still, watching him fight goku was hype as fuck, but still DB is best.
>>147053006
well yeah that's what a franchise is. He owns and created that shit but he hires other people to run it for him (People who create stuff and people who destroy stuff).
Like irl in their own little universe they think they are the hot shit (Zamasu, Beerus etc) but infront of the actual owner that changes quickly.
He also has his little spies in there to make sure they don't run his shit to the ground I guess.
>>147052341
in fucking spanish....you retard
Can girls handle it if goku was fucking them in super saiyan form? would the vagina end up burning/meltingdue to the friction of the penis going in and out. Even taking into account of lube, a penis going in and out at 10 000 thrusts per minute.... Anyone well versed in anatomy want to give it a shot?
>zamasu whished for a goku
How is this possible in trunks future if he never knew about goku?
can anyone else for real this time how many alternate realities due to time travel?
and is there a reality where cell is alive?
and could that alternate cell possibly be black?
>>147053379
>Cell
>Black
The only for perfection is green.
hi
how can one kai be so smug?
>>147053379
Like this?
>>147048728
>magnus opus
>it's just 'muh ironic grammatical error'
Fucking retarded ass millenials.
>>147048728
Get the fuck out man...
>>147053142
>well yeah that's what a franchise is
Sounds more like feudalism, albeit with more modern-looking administrative structures. Zen-chan isn't selling rights to a business model, he instates gods to rule for him and fulfill certain obligations.
>>147052781
I'm thinking maybe they watch Zamasu kill Gowasu for "proof," then Whis turns back time and Beerus goes in for the kill
>>147053732
>Whis turns back time
Incidentally, where does Whis get off doing this? And how does it not create another timeline? Or is that why there are five rings?
>>147053876
I think Whis timetravel is legit changing the direction of time. Everything goes backwards for 5 minutes or whatever his limit is.
Whereas Bulma timetravel is like creating a new timeline and then tunneling your way into there.
>>147053876
He reverses time in the time line he is in. Rules of time travel in DBZ are their own wierd set of rules that toriyama
Controls.
>>147051033
Vegeta originally had red hair as well.
They aslo used to draw his hair shadows with a really dark red to imply that his hair isn't completely black.
Time travel was a mistake.
>>147053980
That would mean the machine it self creates an alternate reality. I think it's more whiss has control of time without breaking the rules, where the machine does break the rules.
now what the fuck is this? where is my batman subs?
>>147053980
>>147054017
I thought of that. Like him making every particle just move backwards to the place it was before, in some space he controls (it can't be everywhere, otherwise no one would have memories that it happened). That seems like a "teleportation kills you, the same configuration of atoms in a different place isn't actually you" situation though, but lets not get into that.
If that's how it is, it technically isn't time travel and Zen-chan wouldn't care?
>>147054111
I bet it's animewake with a new name.
>>147054120
yes. those lifeforms called whis probably have a little bit over power over their respective universe granted by Zeno
>>147054148
is nyaa just fucking with us?
>>147047961
not in this timeline
Why did goku or vegeta never wish for their family or race to be brought back to life? they were both more powerful than basically every other sayajin put together
fucking dicks
are subs out?
>>147053876
What Whis does is like hitting backspace
What the machine does is jumping the cursor and adding another branch from there.
>>147054536
>>147054613
FUCKING WHEN
>>147047931
Stupid sexy Whis.
>>147054507
they probably will to give them a reason to fight Beerus to the death
>>147054627
2-3h
Guys if you lived on earth and found the dragonballs what would you wish for?
>>147054733
The super dragon balls
>>147054507
I was going to say "Dead for more than a year"-rule, but Dende removed that. I am losing track of which dragonballs can do what.
>>147054560
>What Whis does is like hitting backspace
Combined with the fact that it doesn't affect everyone and everything, that's an incredible power.
Zamasu with Jack Bauer voice.
>The Dragon Balls! Damn it! Tell me where are they!
>>147054784
And what would you wish for with those?
>>147054890
Vados
>>147054890
literal dragon balls
>>147054784
>wish for Super Doragon Boalls
>can't use them because of language barrier
>>147054917
>>147052302
Full pic please
here is in short what happened last night, - many speculations
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=35218
>>147054957
>use one of the other two remaining wishes to learn the language or get an interpreter
With the time ring, Zamasu could make infinite wishes.
Are there any good subs out yet?
fuck where is the subs?
>>147055168
>>147055172
WHERE ARE YOU DARK KNIGHT
>>147055146
So how does timeline-splitting work if you travel to the future, do something different there, and back to your own time?
Would Zamasu create multiple new timelines with this plan to make infinite wishes?
SUBS OUT
>>147055358
LYING BITCH
>>147055358
where
>>147055358
fuck off zamasu
>>147055358
I was lying in bed you made me get up and check
>>147055443
>>147055403
>>147055396
>>147055389
>>147048629
>Destroying present Zamasu saves everything
What the fuck, no it doesn't. Trunks still had to kill the andriods and Cell in his own timeline. They should all know this. Trunks especially should know this. 18 is dead in his timeline and married to a cuck in another.
Trunks is in his own distinct timeline, and his Zamasu won't go away until he's beaten.
>>147055508
Stop using buzzwords you don't know the meaning of you autist. Krillin is not a cuck.
WHERE IS THE FUCKING SUBS
>>147055586
9:30 at dbt.net
>>147055586
People are going rabid for subs.
>>147055611
is that shit EVER on time tho
>>147055508
>hating on krillin
shit taste
>>147055557
>Krillin is not a cuck.
SUBS OUT
>>147055848
fuck off cunt
jesus..what is taking batman so long? does batman subs have like website or something like dragon team or they just upload it on nyaa?
>>147055848
Where?
>>147055912
He lied, he lied to everybody.
>>147055906
They can just rip this shit off of youtube there is no reason to take forever on subs
Wow thanx 4 the spoilers, faggots
>>147051353
That's wrong fampai.
Timeline 1: Everyone dies but Trunks, who travels to Timeline 2 to warn the Z fighters about the Androids. After returning, Trunks defeats the Androids, but is eventually killed by Imperfect Cell, who steals his time machine in order to hunt down the Androids in a different era. All the Z Fighters are dead in this timeline. Presumably when Babidi arrives he fucks shit up and Timeline 1 gets fucked.
Timeline 2: Timeline 1 Trunks helps the Z warriors defeat Freiza and the Androids. Dr. Gero's lab is destroyed in this timeline, ending the Cell project before Cell matures. Trunks returns to Timeline 1, kills the Androids, but is killed by the Timeline 1 Cell, who he never knew existed. The Z fighters of Timeline 2 never fight Cell. This means Goku is alive when Babidi arrives, and likely cucks him before Buu is released with the help of Supreme Kai.
Timeline 3: Everyone dies except Trunks. This is our Future Trunks. He travels to Timeline 4.
Timeline 4: The same as Timeline 2, only with one crucial difference: Timeline 1 Cell has also traveled here as an egg and spent 4 years maturing into Imperfect Cell. The Z Fighters destroy Gero's lab and kill Timeline 4 Cell, but unfortunately have to defeat Timeline 1 Perfect Cell, which costs Goku his life.
Future Trunks now knows that there's a Cell in his timeline that will mature, kill him, and steal his time machine after realizing the Androids have been destroyed. Timeline 3 Trunks returns home, destroys the Androids, continues training in preparation for Cell, destroys him too, and eventually cucks Babidi and Dabura with the help of Supreme Kai training. Unfortunately Black Goku and Zamasu happen, so he returns to Timeline 3 in the hopes of finding the strength needed to preserve his reality.
>>147055848
ZAMASU!!!!
Zamasu, knows everything about Son Goku and how Trunks created a second timeline. Therefore, he has created another timeline unknown to everyone. From there, he can launch infinite attacks against the two main timelines.
Infinite inmortal Zamasus when?
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=849015
Holy shit it's really out.
>>147055694
It was supposed to be out an hour ago on their time then they just added another hour.
>>147047931
Why are thereally Spanish subs out all over youtube but english is the big no no
It really goes to show how little oversite there is regarding the kais.
How the fuck was an apprentice kai freely able to warp to different galaxies, make a wish with the super dragon ball and then kill an actual supreme kai.
Why was he allowed to make a wish in the first place?
>>147056009
spic subs are inaccurate jewgle translations
>>147056025
But still the content itself should be taken down regardless on the translation
Wait, so future zamasu made several wishes with the super dragon balls and the time ring?
SUBS OUT!
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=849095
THANK YOU BASED BATMAN!
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=849095
guys is this the good one cuz i'm downloading it right now
>>147056181
It begins
What's to stop you from
>collecting super dragonballs
>summon dragon
>go 30 seconds in the future and wish for something
>return to your time
>wish for something else
>gee bill why does your mom let you have two wishes
>>147056246
It wouldn't work because the dragon wouldn't allow it.
>>147056282
Says who
>>147048420
Did you even watch the NEP retard? They pretty much give him one last chance while they observe him and that's when he kills Gowasu.
>>147056259
Huh? Where the fuck did he come from then?
>>147056148
No, Whis' theories will be wrong.
>>147056304
>watch the NEP
>watch Super
>hey this is alright I'll read the manga
>manga feels like Super but everything is cut way down
>summoning Super Shenron is like two panels and super casual
Huh? I thought normally shows cut out the cruft and made things too short but the manga seems so sped up.
>>147056352
The manga is just an advertisement for the anime.
>>147056372
But still they do different things with the same plot
>>147056389
What plot?
>>147056352
>the manga doesn't overextend shit and add fluff to make a chapter last 20 mins
wow, it's almost like you never read manga
>>147056372
no its not
its been stated multiple times that the manga also gets its script from toriyama
its as canon as the anime
>>147056352
Will we ever see Zalama?
>>147056453
It exists only to advertise the anime.
>>147056409
I see what you dI'd there
>>147054507
Yeah just wish for an entire planet of retarded fighting monkeys with the power to become giant to be revived
>>147056658
I know, right? That'd be so redundant, the earth already serves that purpose.
>FUCKING INDONESIAN SUBS ARE OUT BEFORE ENGLISH SUBS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT1r1Lml1Xc
>FUCKING INDONESIAN SUBS ARE OUT BEFORE ENGLISH SUBS
WHAT'S THE FUCKING HOLD UP!
>>147056700
Except that the english subs are already out you retard.
Do you think Gowasu will be all depressed when they kill Zamasu?
>>147056719
He doesn't torrent it seems
>>147056726
not really
zamasu can serve him tea in the afterlife
>>147048629
>no new episode til the 25th
>tfw starting college after the 18th
JUST
>>147048761
>Future Trunks ends up as a jobber
>Current Trunks is a useless nobody
>Gohan was the strongest 2x in the series
>Goten keeps up with Trunks despite having Chichi as his mom
English subs when?
>>147056719
>>147056738
My bad torrenting now fellow ningens
>>147056823
They're up actually. Batman has'em.
Toriyama BTFO Shirou & others.
Calling it now, Bardock will become Trunks mentor.
So who do I use for subs now that Dragonteam seem to be disbanded?
>>147048728
10/10
>>147056991
Batman
>>147056960
Whoops. Thanks.
>>147056658
the point is their entire race is dead and they don't even give a shit, for all his talk of being the prince of all sayajin Vegeta doesn't even think to revive his family and race
>>147056991
>Dragonteam seem to be disbanded
Fuck...
>>147057080
Because his family was fucking retarded.
>>147057080
He didn't care about them because they were weaker than him.
>>147057080
He never really cared about them, he only cared about ruling a kingdom initially. I mean, he killed like one of the last remaining saiyans himself and tried to kill 2 others
DB, DBZ and the Bardock and Trunks specials are canon.
DBGT, DBS and movies are fan-fiction.
>>147057080
Not to mention that if he revived them then chances are he could be deposed by someone who has more support than he does especially since he was entirely callous to his subjects and loathed them.
>>147057231
Bardock is non canon.
Broly is canon.
This is the perfect world.
1/25
2/25
>>147050469
>yfw Zamasu already made his immortality wish so his "death" is but temporary
Post more Maifu you ningens
3/25
4/25
5/25
>>147055958
Thanks m8
6/25
>>147057362
I want to treat Mai to ice cream
We original Dragonball now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROnd7d4axHo
>>147056726
Gowasu ends up becoming Black from grief and resurrects Zamasu. They then travel slightly in the future and wish for immortality, 15ish years later FTrunks' time happens.
7/25
Z starts
>>147057536
>10,000
THERE'S NO WAY THAT CAN BE RIGHT
9/25
>>147057498
It has been established that black is a servant to Zamasu that looks like Goku.
>>147057506
>yamcha still can't beat full power roshi
kek
>>147057293
10/25
>Goku is right about everything
What happened?
11/25
12/25
Anyone else hope Piccolo or the humans receive a power up? Kind of annoying it's been nothing but Saiyan wank so far but the stuff with the Kais is pretty interesting.
>>147055333
Until Zen-chan finds out and blinks him out of existence.
13/25
Weren't the standard or Namekian dragon balls enough to give immortality? Why'd he go searching for ridiculously difficult to find ones?
14/25
>>147057710
Zamasu didn't know about any of them in the first place. He knew about the Super ones so he asked about those.
not that I expected much from the backstory, but could have ended up more pleb?
Zamasu locating the Super Dragon Balls with Zuno-ex-machina and using them twice?
and he's gonna poison Gowasu's tea while the other gods are watching? did GRRM guest-write this?
15/25
16/25
17/25
>>147057676
It's Freeza
>>147057686
I think it would be great if they defeat Zamasu by sealing him in a rice cooker
18/25
>>147057758
That was just what Whis think has happened.
Even at the end he is unsure why Black has similar ki and how Zamasu used the rings without being a kaioshin.
The power levels got really dumb.
At what point should they have stopped tracking them, do you think?
>>147057731
>Krillin stronger than Tien
Ha!
19/25
>>147057698
so how did Goku ever manage to heal Freeza
That never made sense to me
Where did you get these retarded power levels from?
20/25
>>147057231
Xenoverse is canon
>>147057925
He never healed him, he just gave him energy to escape the planet.
>>147057925
>heal Freeza
He didn't, he just gave him some energy. Freeza's body can survive in space, in pieces and shit so it's safe to say energy's all he needs.
21/25
I'm going with that speculation Whis is explaining
22/25
>>147049632
Jaco ova fucking when
>>147057944
>Videl being stronger than son goku was at the start of the series
B U L L S H I T
>>147057991
23/25
>>147057868
>Every villain from now on just becomes a glorified babysitter and future trainer for Pain
A shame Freeza couldn't be reformed since I would've loved to see an episode of him and Piccolo babysitting, could've been greater than the driving episode.
>>147057944
I'm pretty sure Gohan was stronger than Super Perfect Cell
>>147049715
And both are similar to Moses.
24/25
>>147058026
Why Goku's image, hatred, want that power
>>147058013
>Kaioshin goin all out against Buu is just as strong as casual Kaioshin in >>147057944
Fucking Ningens and their changing powerlevels. Gods keep it constant.
>>147058060
He lazed around between the cell games and this story and became weaker
25/25
>>147058026
is this your first anime? When has the mystery ever been revealed this early on in the arc? We even have a whole episode dedicated to his identity in 3 weeks.
>>147054733
That's not even reverse cucking
That's samecucking
>>147058141
>Super buu stronger than Kid buu
KidBuuFags B T F O
>>147058141
So, what's the last time we saw Tien and Kuririn power levels here?
>>147058141
26/25
Whis - 99999999999999
>>147054890
Complete arsenal
>>147058144
All this speculation bullshit and I'm simply saying that what Whis explained is the best possible theory, I may be wrong, I might be guessing right. Oh and this ain't my first anime.
>>147050363
Late as fuck reply but this doesn't mean shit since the future is already established.
I fucking hate this time travel shit but god damn it's keeping me entertained
>>147058139
My bad I quoted the wrong pic, I meant Teen Gohan SSJ2 vs SP Cell
>>147057731
The numbers may be different, but I guess the power relations are the same now (especially regarding jobita).
>>147057598
That was before he trained.
After their preparation for the Saiyans, the Z Fighters all got over 1000 except for Chiaotzu.
>>147057905
Krillin was on Namek, so ofcourse he became stronger than Tien (until the Buu saga).
Is there no episode today lads?
where did you get these numbers from?
trading cards?
This was supposed to be a Vados dump thread, please get back on track.
Probably way tool so long was the higher amount of talking compared to the last episode.
>>147058141
We need continuation to Super era.
>>147058193
Krillin 250,000
Tien 240,000
>>147058322
Official/most accurate, straight from Kanzenshuu and those guys know their shit.
Maybe if they explained how Zuno knows all this shit, it might not be so fucking ridculous.
A being that can tell you everything you need to know about the dragonballs should have a top 10 in the universe fight protecting him at all time.
The fact that Zamasu walked up to him and threatened him without so much as security being there irritates the fuck out of me.
>>147058188
Super Buu is stronger, but Kid Buu is crazier and more dangerous.
>>147058364
So, the only question left is whether Tien or Krilin are humans.
>>147058307
yes there is. with subs
http://dragonballtime.net/dragon-ball-super-episode-58-subbed/
>>147058014
>9:11
I think power level numbers have diminishing returns
Like going from PL 1000 to 1500 is much more meaningful than going from PL 10 million to 15 million
kinda like MMORPG gearing when you put all your numbers in secondary stats
>>147058464
also if the vid is down, scroll down and you can download it
>>147058433
Tien is a triclops. Krillin is a dwarf with 6 dots on his forehead and no nose.
They are also both bald.
Yamcha is the strongest human.
>>147057731
if King Cold had a power level of 150m in that form couldn't he transform like Cooler and Freeza and just own everyone?
>>147048728
I sincerely applaud your dedication, honestly it's incredible to see this.
Good work.
>>147058433
earthlings probably cap around that number
otherwise they wouldn't create martial arts schools with that limitation in mind.
>>147058141
You put a lot of effort into being wrong.
>>147058088
I call bullshit. Vegetto is a lot stronger than Mystic Gohan. He was keeping up just fine with Buuhan. If Vegetto was that weak, Buuhan wouldn't have had to go serious enough to make Vegetto go super.
>>147050885
they can go back in time anon
>>147051047
>vegeta and goku are supposed to be able to defeat beerus at this point
"no"
>>147058582
Anime filler, read the manga.
Is Super Saiyan Blue stronger than Super Saiyan Red?
it seems to me the Blue is just a more stable form that is trying to catch up to Red's peak performance
So now they have Beerus and Whis to bail them out any time they fucked up. Bulma even served them ice cream before going into conversation to coerce them into killing Zamasu.
>>147051624
Aren't batman subs basically the same quality as Pafu subs, which are ready on drabonballtime much, much earlier?
>>147058141
what are all of these based off of, lmao
>>147058366
So, it's all headcanon from some autists?
>>147058506
>Yamcha is the strongest human.
We're doomed.
>150.000
>>147058703
>headcanon
>>147054507
saiyans are terrible people, excluding the u6 saiyans.
>>147058769
how is it not?
>>147058657
Bulma's basically the 3rd main character
The story moved forward because of her interventions.
Even making a baby furthered the plot.
>>147048246
This webm sums up what dragonball has become
ffs
>>147058296
Tien trained on Kai's world for the duration of the Namek saga.
Krillin's boost came from Guru.
super is basically a gt remake
>super dragon balls=black star dragonballs
>black=baby
>ssg=golden ozaru
>ssb=ssj4
>>147055443
they are!
>>147057982
Gohan was SSJ2 against Dabra, how is he weaker than when he used it against Kibito?
>>147057676
this is where powerlevels become retarded.
they shouldn't have inflated them so much lmao. the scale should've been shrunken (e.g. ssj3 at 1m or so)
>>147057894
In retrospect, it probably would've been best to have the scouters just be able to detect life forms (while being nuanced enough to single out individuals), and be able to determine the capabilities of a creature without using hard numbers to determine strength.
"Power levels" in general would probably work best if used as vaguely as possible, because any number assigned is likely to be arbitrary at best.
>>147058961
They named an episode and got a 1M meme. It had to be done.
So we are in a full time paradox?
>Black kicks Trunks's ass
>Trunks travels to the past
>Goku meets Zamas
>Zamas wishes for Black
>Black kicks Trunks's ass
>Trunks travels to the past
>etc
>>147057876
Mr. Satan is just as strong as pilaf saga goku?
He doesn't even seem half as strong as goku was during the begining od dragonball,
Also how did he become the world champ if there were guy like giran,king chappa and Nam around?
>>147059012
>the past
more like
>a past
>>147058582
Vegetto transforms into SSJ just literally 2 panels after getting fused in the manga.
>>147057944
>Videl weaker than Chichi at her own tournament
Eeeh.
>>147058919
Zamasu alone is a better character then any of the villians of Dragonball GT. Don't compare Super to that utter trash. Never was I more angry at the ending of the Omega Shenron fight, utter fucking crap.
>>147053261
TIMELINE RINGS
FOR FUCK SAKE
THIS IS LITERALLY WRITTEN FOR CHILDREN
THESE CONCEPTS WERE INTRODUCED ABOUT 3 FUCKING EPISODES AGO
(not counting Uub or Olibu)
Tien: 250,000
Krillin: 240,000
Yamcha: 150,000
Chiaotzu: 13,000
Yajirobe: 970
Kami (doesn't exist anymore): 320
Mr. Popo: 300
Mercenaro Tao (android): 210
Korin: 190
Master Roshi (buffed): 180
Grandpa Gohan: 140
Master Roshi: 139
Chi-Chi: 130
King Chappa: 130
Master Shen: 120
Mercenary Tao: 110
Spike: 110
General Black (in mech): 100
Android #8: 100
Bandages: 90
Major Metallitron: 75
Bora: 75
General Blue: 72
Pirate Robot: 70
Buyon: 60
Nam: 60
Giran: 30
Spopovitch: 30
Yamu: 28
Ox King: 25
Invisible Man: 30
Videl: 21
Fangs: 20
Hercule: 10
Pamput: 10
Punta: 8
Red Ribbon officers: 8
Man Wolf: 7
Bacterian: 7
Lanfan: 6
Farmer with shotgun: 5
>>147058953
well in the description it says regular ss
>>147059107
He has one bang against Dabra, he has 2 in regular SSJ
>>147057293
>>147057327
>>147057367
>>147057403
>>147057433
>>147057465
>>147057506
>>147057536
>>147057578
>>147057617
>>147057654
>>147057676
>>147057698
>>147057731
>>147057765
>>147057812
>>147057837
>>147057876
>>147057908
>>147057944
>>147057982
>>147058013
>>147058053
>>147058088
>>147058141
Ever taken a step back and realized you're crunching more numbers than an accountant?
People taking kazenshuu pictures seriously?
They are a forum that just theory crafts power levels and nothing more. They literally do calculation on frames and see how physics applies to the attacks. It is dumb and inaccurate.
Don't post people's headcannons and parade them like they are official.
>>147058953
Maybe because vs Kiwito he was still angry at Videl getting rekt. I don't know if it's said in the canon that SSJ2 Gohan power can be powered up by anger.
>>147059090
>REEEEEEE stupid ningen
>better character
>>147059105
>Tien higher than Krillin
And I suppose Vegeta is stronger than Goku, because Vegeta frowns more?
>>147058141
26/25
>Son Goku ssjg
>850,000,000,000
>Beerus
>1,125,000,000,000
im just estimating here, but i dont even want to know what ssbkkx10 is
>>147058141
I never got why someone didn't just teleport, grab Gohan, and let HIM fight Kid Buu instead of having the strongest fighter in the world run around Earth to beg people to put their hands up in the air.
Like shit nigga, you could solo your dad with a hand tied behind your back. As soon as Gohan was revived he should have powered his ass up and told his dad to bring him over.
>>147059090
Zamasu is fucking trash, one of the worst villains in history. Hang yourself
>>147057293
>Roshi: 139
>Jackie Chun: 100
How?
>>147057765
>Androids
>having Powerlevels
How can beings w/o Ki have them?
>>147059266
Super Saiyan Blue Kaio Ken x 10 you fucking idiot.
>>147059241
Krillin and Yamcha retired.
Tien kept training.
>>147059105
>Farmer with shotgun: 5
>with shotgun
Heh.. so Guy with Lazer Ring from Golden Freezer arc is 10 trillion powerlevel?
>>147059241
Tien trains consistently and was already stronger than Krillin to begin with?
Do people here seriously think Krillin is stronger than Tien? That's never been true at any point in the story, from DB to DBZ.
>>147059318
>I've clearly never watched DBZ and am just here to shitpost with my anime reaction images
Get out.
Why wasn't there a powerful fighter guarding Zono? There had to have been people threatening him for information.
>>147057812
>tiens kikoho only 300k while cells powerlevel is over 860 million
this is how i know these images are bullshit
Philosophical matters about killing those who didn't commit crimes are important, even if you somehow know they do so in the future
even goku knew this for Gero
>>147059373
>still mad as a fag cause your husbando MC lost to some random bloke with a pea-shooter
I can smell your assmad tears, child.
>>147049159
gotta admit, Burst Limit was a good looking game
>>147059338
Krillin got a massive boost on Namek, there's no way King Kai training could compete with that. He also trained consistently up until the Buu saga.
He was also stated to be the strongest human living by Yamcha at the start of the Buu saga.
>>147059302
i know what it means... im saying i can't even comprehend what the numbers would be
>>147057536
>Vegeta, what does the scouter say about his power level?
>Over 8.000
>Son Goku: 8.000
Who the fuck is doing those shitty charts?
>>147053008
what happened?
>>147059241
Well Vegeta is stronger than Goku for most of the time.
1. As kid, Vegeta already destroys Saibamen and genocides aliens with his father. Goku is having little adventures on earth.
2. On their first encounter, Vegeta is 16,000 and Goku is 8000. Vegeta is twice as strong.
>b-but Kaioken!
Then using the Great Ape form is acceptable aswell.
3. In the Android saga after Trunks and Vegeta leave the HTC, he is stronger than Goku.
4. In the Buu saga when they 1v1, Vegeta wins and has the edge.
The only times when Goku is stronger is on Namek, Cell Games and when he goes SSJ3.
Why would creators of the universe make the God of Destruction so powerful but the god of creation so weak in comparison?
>>147059276
you have some shit taste, kys
>>147057578
>Kaioken: 16.000
>Kaioken x2: 16.000
>>147059470
Cause life in this universe is like cancer and you need a good laser to rip it out.
>>147053876
Whis is allowed to so he can reverse Beerus doing dumb shit.
>>147059338
Except after Krillin's adventure on Namek.
He was stronger than Tien after that for a while.
>>147059436
Goku is stronger then Vegeta for the majority of Z and Super. Wtf are you even babbling on about?
I like the Black bait by Toei in this episode tbqh
He didn't wish for a servant actually
cant wait for zamasu to fucking dieee
>>147057676
>Previous vegeta: 60.000
>One zenkai later: 2.400.000
What the fuck was toriyama thinking?
>>147059529
lol butthurt goku fanboy
>>147059472
>REEEEEE kill all stupid ningen
>>147059608
Actually taking headcannon by some fags on a forum seriously.
>>147057698
This is wrong. 100% Freezer was stronger than SSJ Goku. Goku could beat him because in 100% form Freezer's ki got drained very fast and his power level went down very fast while Goku wasn't losing so much ki during the battle.
>>147059436
>In the Buu saga when they 1v1, Vegeta wins and has the edge.
That doesn't mean he's stronger, faggot. Goku held back and Vegeta later acknowledged this after feeling his SSJ3 and he was mad about it for quite a while, even mentioning it during the final showdown with Buu.
>>147057578
>Tail-cutter Yajirobe stronger than 23th Budokai Piccolo.
C'mon. The guy literally spends all day eating, sleeping and playing cards with a cat. AFAIK he has never trained. These numbers are such bullshit even if they're official.
>>147059266
Now I wonder what Trunks's power is?
right now he is the strongest non god ki super saiyan to date imagining him with god ki would be insane.
>>147059688
Wrong wrong wrong. Goku SS is stronger than Frieza 100%. Fucking Toriyama confirmed it in an interview years ago you twat. Fuck.
>>147059688
Huh no
>>147059725
THEY. AREN'T. OFFICIAL.
This plot makes no sense.
I can look past the weird usage of time travel where they don't just appear and disappear instantly, but the plot can't make sense at all.
The point is that in Future Trunks's timeline, Zamasu and Black are killing everyone. However, the entire reason that they exist in the first place is because Zamasu fought against Goku, who's dead in the Future timeline.
This means that there never could have been an evil Black in the future timeline because Goku died long before meeting Zamasu in the first place.
>power levels after freeza arc
woah there
So...wait is Yajirobe X Korin canon?
>>147059755
Trunks has the same potential as Gohan. Remember he's half saiyan too and he never stoped training. Gohan SSJ2 should be stronger than Goku SSJ3 if he wasn't a fucking faggot.
Isn't faster for Goku to just instant transmission himself to Zamasu's location or is it too far away?
So is Yajirobe gay?
>>147059885
it's in universe 10 kek
If Beerus's life is tied down to a supreme kai, then that means not any mortal can be a god of destruction...so why was suggesting Goku could be a god?
where have i seen these guys before can't point my finger on it...
>>147059941
it's tied after some ritual is performed probably
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>>147059767
Then why Freezer had the upper hand against SSJ Goku till the end of the battle when Goku said "it's boring to fight you now that your power is so low".
>>147059472
Zamasu and black faggots are the worst beta cucks on the planet.
>>147059987
Using anime filler as the basis of your argument. Off yourself.
>Gohan "fans" continue to be outraged at how he lives happily with his beautiful wife and child, in a big house, pursuing his dream job.
>>147059945
Dragon Quest?
>>147057969
Anyone with enough power can survive in space
>>147059381
All it ever does it push him back
>>147059386
>All ended up as friends
They don't see each other for years between battles. They're colleagues at best.
>>147060011
>The big house that is paid by his father in law
>Guy has been studying for this long and is still not a scholar
>Weak as shit in comparison to the other saiyans
>Had piccolo killed defending him
>Made a vow to get stronger but prolonged that to
Gohan is a failure in everything so far in Super.
>>147059842
he is zamasu from the present timeline's future
he then used the GREEN time rings to go into that timeline (maybe to look for Black)
Someone go make a new thread
>>147048420
>Zamasu kills Gowasu
>Whis takes the squad back in time
>Goku fights Zamasu
>Beerus takes the kill
That's what I'm expecting
>>147060101
>filler
Stay mad.
>>147049632
how can they fly?
>>147057837
Are you implying vegeta and trunks could have killed cell 1on1?
>>147057944
>ssj yielding 50+ times increase in power on children
What
>>147058141
>30 billion
>>147060155
He can't kill Zamasu, he is immortal.
>Gogeta could totally fuck over any villain
>they still don't do it because ew it sucks
Weak.
>>147060203
Gogeta doesn't exist.
>>147060261
Never fucking reply to me again unless you are contributing to the thread.
>>147060261
Well the theoretical fusion dance result of Goku and Vegeta then.
When is the next manga chapter coming out?
>>147049107
I could smooth talk the troll doll
>>147060293
end of the month week, every month
>>147060203
>Gogeta could totally fuck over any villain
Nice headcanon.
>>147060326
They even remark about it in Super.
>>147060292
Yes because the clearly stronger Vegitto isn't a better option. Moron.
Nobody founds very suspicious about Gowasu being to permissive with Zamasu? Like he really defended him from "our heros".
>>147060368
That's a permanent fusion.
>>147060374
he is embarrassed, since it is also his fault as a teacher
>>147060344
Nice headcanon anon.
>>147060391
dragon balls can undo it
New Thread
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>>147059945
Kaiba Corp henchmen
>>147057758
>while the other gods watch
They have no jurisdiction over this universe. By killing Gowasu, he takes over as Supreme Kai and thus becomes an untouchable for Beerus since shotagod would outright remove him and Whis for that.
What will happen is they'll see the act, go huh, that makes sense to me and then Goku will teleport down and fight IMMORTAL ZAMASU. The wish order will be the opposite of what Whis claimed and Zamasu will be immortal as a result, fighting Goku to a standstill and then 'faking' a death since he can teleport. Goku isnt smart enough to think Zamasu would regen from a full power kamehameha because lolwish and leaves.
Zamasu will go 'well fuck, I need my own Ningen' and make his Goku wish. Black will appear and Zamasu will somehow make him the God of Destruction of Universe 10/Miraiverse.
>>147050469
What the fuck is universe 10s God of destruction doing holy shit this plot hole is killing me
>>147059725
He did train, retard.
On Kami's Lookout, preparing for the Saiyans.
By the time Yajirobe is 900, Piccolo was 3000.
>>147058141
Mr satan at 10. no way. He's at least 50. Probably higher.
I'm pretty sure he could beat db yamcha.
>>147058021
Easily in terms of ki. She can fly for one and base Goku at the start of the series ate a pile of dicks constantly from mundane shit. Hercule alone is still fast enough for faster than vision movement, leaping up a cliff face and one shotting people.
People really underestimate the non Z-fighters but in the anime (lolnon-canon), Hercule still did some super strong things by normal standards. Plus you need to factor in that Hercule STILL beat the Budokai goers from previous years so he will be beating all the guys like Nam who were able to keep up with post basic Roshi training Goku and cause harm to him.
Granted he'd only need a power level of about 30 to do so but that still puts him above the planet average.
Plus Goku has excessive strength for his power. That was always a thing. Tien comments on his unnatural resilience and power and how he only got so far because of it.
>>147059350
Someone should edit a whole episode on this.
I'm curious how much would change.
>>147061033
Same place where Beerus was when Buu was attacking, probably (I know that he wasn't created when the Buu arc was going on, but from an in-universe standpoint)
>>147058366
>Kaazenshuu
>muh random numbers that dont match feats
No. There's no reason post Frieza for a massive increase in power. Half of the reason the androids were even a threat was that they could go full tilt endlessly and the Z fighters couldn't win the stamina game. This resulted in fights where 18 was getting matched by Vegeta on every level until Vegeta tired out and then Piccolo holding back vs 17 so he could kill the other 2, only to misjudge how much they could take.
Plus Toriyama went on record and said that the Namek multiplier and power levels are 10x what he thinks they should be, meaning that Frieza was at 12 million and Goku at 15 million in SSJ which matches up to the comment King Kai said when he said Goku was pushing 10x kaioken the entire time. He was just at 300,000 and had total control over 10x Kaioken for the fight until Frieza began dominating him.
That's why noone ended up randomly destroying the planet with random blasts when it was implied that Frieza and Vegeta could do it effortlessly at max power. Hell, even 18 said 'yeah I could too' when she was shittalking with Vegetableprince.
>>147058515
and his entire idea about Trunks was that Trunks was relying on his sword, not his power. Remember that the only guy with power control outside of Earth based fighters was Ginyu and he kept it a secret. The rest just went off base strength and Frieza clan members were just THAT strong and resilient that they won out. It's why Frieza's training brought out such a result and he'd have won the fight vs SSB Goku if he bothered to train another month and master Gold form.
TLDR Cold was a retard and underestimated his opponent.
>>147058582
Never fought Buuhan in base. The manga is the canon and Vegetto went straight to SSJ.
>>147059295
Roshi admitted after the first tournament saga he needed to train and he was getting rusty. Plus he didnt go all out vs Goku in the budokai. He simply supplied a fight that made Goku think he had a chance of winning if he trained harder.
He tried the same vs Tien and realised Tien was a rape engine with a bad attitude that would draw out his full power if he wanted to win. So he quit on the hopes Goku would change Tien's mind and possibly gain a new rival.
I bet that at the end of a saga black and Zamasu will wear their earrings on other ear in order to fuse. Remember when Gowasu said to ZAMASU! that if they might fuse if he accidently puts it wrongly? That wasn't an reminded, that was a hint :P