Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1667

>>146989783

>>147039004
I want to marry Aoba!

nice op

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>tfw too lazy to read
At least my reps are done.

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Gonna sign up for a japanese class with a friend at my uni next semester.
What am I in for, /djt/?

>>147039737
Lots of fat redditor weebs.

>>147039737
A waste of time. It's something better taught to yourself.

People who take languages in college, don't learn those languages. It just doesn't work. Did you take a langauge in high school? Do you know it? I didn't think so.

>>147039737
That artist does cute faces but otherwise completely ruins most of the work with cancerous fucking guro shit.

>>147039737
Start following the method in the guide and treat the classes as a supplement to your studies for speaking practice and asking the teacher questions.

>>147039920
So he'll fit in just fine.

Why is everyone so mean in these threads?

>>147040676
maybe reddit is more your speed bud

>>147040676
I'm not mean :3

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ｴｸｽｷｬﾘﾊﾞ~
ｴｸｽｷｬﾘﾊﾞ~
ﾌﾛﾑ ﾕﾅｲﾃｯﾄﾞ ｷﾝｸﾞ
ｱｲﾑ ﾙｯｷﾝｸﾞ ﾌｫ ﾋﾑ
ｱｲﾑ ｺﾞｲﾝｸﾞ ﾄｩ ｷｬﾘﾌｫﾙﾆｧ

>>147039942
Doesn't matter, I have to take a language for at least one semester anyway and I don't really want to learn something like france or spanish.

>>147040424
Yeah, I kinda had this in mind

>>147040676
Because you can't learn Japanese.

>>147040676
Must be that hwayangabang.

>>147039737
>>147039942
Good post.

I feel like that if anything, that class you'll be attending will just build some bad habits regarding Japanese. To learn Japanese you need a lot of discipline, and unless you're in a specialized school like ones you can find in Japan with extreme exposure for multiple hours every day, you'll just end up wasting time.

Same could be said about art : have you ever learned anything in art classes? I don't think so, because here again if you wish to learn art through school only expensive private schools will ever manage to teach you anything - even art colleges are all shit and infested with feminists.

Learn from /djt/, whether the bad shits or the good shits, to ultimately learn from yourself and build your own understanding of the language. A few years ago I was a pleb at all of this but I owe a lot thanks to this place now.

I'm ranting too much but whatever.

>>147040834
So you can make it just by browsing 4chan?

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>>147040713
Maybe so..... but reddit people are very easy to talk too even for you. Maybe I don't have the guts for 4chan yet. I can browse here just fine some days but it can get to you sometime, some of the things people say on here.

>>147041031
>some of the things people say on here.
no shit really? people on 4chan arent chasing internet points and the sum of their post is their only merit? who fucking knew

if you don't like reality, stay with reddit

>>147039422
It's been the opposite for me. Reading is fun but doing my reps is killing me, and the idea of mining words is just too damn annoying.

>>147041179
You say that as if people on 4chan don't treat others like shit just because they can. Both this site and reddit have horrendous userbases, you're deluding yourself if you think otherwise.

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>>147040756
かりふぉるにあのほてるは

ちぇっくあうとできないんだよね

こわいね

>>147041291
It's fine when you learn to not take this shit personal. Especially with how pointless it is, since we don't have usernames.

>>147040834
>will just build some bad habits regarding Japanese
Isn't it more likely to learn bad habits by doing it on your own?

Also, some of you guys seem to have had some real bad teachers or just a general fucked up school system if you didn't take anything with you from your art or language classes.

>>147041365
>ちぇっくあうとできないんだよね
チェックアウトできるよ
でも帰られないよ

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>>147041365
質問がる。
正直なんであなたがまだここにいってさっぱり分かりません。もう一年たったかも。失礼なつもりはないけど・・・もしかして英語を慣れる目的とかあるか？ここのコメントとかを読むってわけ。

それとも、別に特別な意味がないかも。

まあ個人的にどうでもいい、あなたがそうしてうれしいならいいけど・・・まあ、どうかな。

>>147041731
might as well ask why a native now runs this place

https://www.4chan.org/japanese

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>>147041731
She is her, and She isn't her.

Has anybody got Steins;Gate 0 to work with a text hooker?

>>147042063
No Jamal, there's a difference between a Japanese person coming here to talk like Japanese peoeple do in the /int/ thread and someone roleplaying with imouto.jpg avatars in 平仮名.

>>147039422
I'm with you... but I do read every example sentence though. Maybe I should stop doing that?

>>147041442
I took classes from native Japanese speakers at a club for Japanese immigrants using books made in Japan to teach the language to foreigners. And while I wouldn't say that I took nothing from it, I wouldn't say I took a lot either. Frankly, it feels like I just wasted my time. If I had known about this back then, I would probably be fluid by now.

Classes are probably fine if they're intensive courses. As in at least a couple hours a day and daily homework. But I doubt a university course will be intensive. Hell, I also took obligatory French in my university and I sure as fuck can't speak French even though I passed all the courses. Learning a language is all about practice. The classes kind of don't really make a difference.

>>147042221
> I would probably be fluid by now.
Do we make you that wet anon?

>>147041442
>Isn't it more likely to learn bad habits by doing it on your own?
Not if you genuinely want to learn and learn to carry an open-minded mindset about what you're doing. Simply having this thread bookmarked and open every day for a while and seeing how everyone does should give you some good examples. The guide is there for a reason, too.

Japanese classes at uni don't necessarily plan for the long term either, they often focus on conversational speeches and "what if you visit Japan soon" situations, which in my opinion are useless to focus on at first since the main goal is learning how to tackle the language as a whole and learn how to read it.

You can learn what uni classes teach you just by watching anime, honestly.

>>147042320
私は液体になる！

私が来ました　この意味は
>I would probably be fluid by now.
私は今液体に成っているだろう

ですか？ be fluidとはどういう意味ですか？

>>147041442
Also, what do you plan on doing once the classes end? You'll be left out on your own with no knowledge on how to continue studying. At best you'll be N4 level (at best), which is shit.

>聞いてない！聞いてないよ！
What else could this possibly mean? This is in a thought bubble. No literal interpretation of it seems to make sense, so I'm pretty sure I must be making some stupid beginner mistake.

>>147042475
>I'm not hearing this
>say it isn't so
>this can't be true
Nah, I don't know anything but I like to pretend I know a little.

>>147042426
本気なら・・・
fluidじゃない、fluent、ミスんだった。

>>147042320
Only a little.

>>147042426
Yeah, fluent. Whatever. Look, English isn't my native language either. I practice it every day with you assholes too. So thanks.

>>147042426
あいつは誤字したよ
"fluent in Japanese"というの意味は「日本語がペラペラ」

>>147042475
To add to what anon said, it could also be :

"I'm not asking!"
aka
"I don't want to know!"

You should've posted the page.

>>147042625
>English isn't my native language either.
mine either, its australian so i have to cut back on the cunt rate significantly, fucken spewin ay

>>147042574
>本当は or 本来は

fluentね！分かりました、ありがとう

>>147042644
誤字と気づけるネイティブ？　流石ですね

>>147042699
いいえ
「本気に聞いたら、じゃ僕は答えます」と意味でした。
またダメかな？

>>147042848
えっと、「聞いたら」より「聞くなら」が増しだったかもしれません。

あなた、日本人ですか？

What is the prettiest word in Japanese?

I think it's 黎明.

>>147043102
マンコ

>>147043102
夜這い

>>147042848
>本気で私にその質問をしているなら
>If you really want to know that meaning.
ということかな？　それなら納得です

本気で聞いていますか？じゃ僕は応えます

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>>147041731
あのんくんのしているのは

質問じゃなくて

疑問なんだよ

質問にはこたえられるけど疑問にはこたえられないよ

>>147043193
イモウトよ　クールじゃないか
どこでそんな文句を覚えたんだい？

>>147043155
はい、そうです。

ありがとうございます。

ちなみに、明快にするために　>>147043082　は僕もでした。

>>147043102
恥丘

>>147042548
>>147042655
Ah, I think I've figured it out now.

>You should've posted the page.
Ah, fuck, I should have, sorry. Understand it now though.

>>147043134
Mangos are delicious.
マンコは美味しいです。

>>147043193
どちも正解だ。質問と疑問、両のものだったってこと。

じゃ、答えなさい、imoutoのくせによくしゃべるね。くそビッチ。

>>147043415
>マンコは美味しいです。
その通りね

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>tfw you will never be fluent

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>>147043594
>tfw when people still post those

>>147043264
こちらこそ教えてくれてありがとう
I'm glad that I will not be fluid, and I have become a little fluent.

>can't even form sentences
気持ち悪い

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>>147043232
くーるってけなされてるの？ほめられてるの？

>>147043446
しつもんとぎもんは、べつのものだよ

いたみときょうふを

あなたのこころで

まぜてはいけないように

>>147043550
実は私が知らない
魔法使いですから
ちなみに、マンコは女の果物という俗はいいですか

>>147043752
褒めてるんだよ

>>147043889
Fuck off /v/edditor.

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>>147043912
C'mon now, not everyone from /v/ is a retarded shitposter.

Speaking of /v/idya, has anyone here tried reading "Little Charo"? It's a Nintendo DS game made to teach Japanese people English, but works quite well in the opposite direction too. You're able to change between English and Japanese with 1 button press. It's also written for beginner learners so it's not terribly hard. Someone has ripped the script out in HTML format already: http://www.nihongonobaka.com/little-charo-the-best-video-game-for-japanese-learners/

The actual story is about a puppy "Charo" that gets separated from his owner in an airport and then the puppy goes on his own little adventure. It's pretty cute, might be good if you're not that interested in the moege / SoL manga that are usually recommended for beginners to start reading with.

I've just started on it, but it seems pretty useful for the (admittedly low) level that I'm at right now.

>>147044214
I have that game downloaded but I'm a bit wary because of the NDS's low resolution. What level are you at?

Taking classes is the best way to learn Japanese. I am not trolling. After 4 years of college courses you will be N2, that's way better than the majority of /djt/ posters (reminder that it's considered normal here to study for 7 years and still have difficulty reading Yotsubato). There's a reason that an enormous community of academics with PhDs have decided that college Japanese courses are best structured the way they are.

>>147044338
I know this is le epic bait, but I just want to point out that there are people who learned Japanese from here and passed N1.

>>147043752
>まぜてはいけないように
反省します。してねうぇ、くそビッチ。チンポを舐めれ

>>147044214
>There are about 1,300 kanji used in the game, and there is unfortunately no furigana.
>As far as the difficulty of the text in the game goes, it doesn’t really get any easier than this.
What?

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>>147043793
ほめられた

うれしい

>>147044271
If you use the scripts (linked above) while playing, the resolution shouldn't be too much trouble.

My level? Hmm. I've gone through most of Tae Kim, and am ~1400 words into core 6k, though I have mined a bunch of stuff outside of that as well.

>>147044427
It's written in a careful way so it's easy to understand for beginner learners. The lack of furigana isn't a big deal if you can rikaichan hover the script as well.

Maybe I take the kanji total for granted, it seems pretty low to me, but I have the benefit of having gone through RTK so it's not a big deal in my case...

>>147044214
Does it work on a western DS? Or does it only work on a JP DS? I'll have to try. I remember reading about that game and being interested about it. I'll report back in a few hours.

Yeah I know I could use DeSmune but playing in my bed is much comfier.

Is it worth it learning Japanese to be able to play games and read manga or are most doing it for career related aspirations

DSのチャロは日本語ボイスはほとんどないよ
テキストは良いけどリスニングはダメ

英語文法解説はあるけど、
日本語文法の解説もない

>>147044878
I'm just in it for the Christmas cake.

>>147044776
Yes, DS is region-free.

>>147044878
>Is it worth it learning Japanese
how about a different question
is it worth relying on shitty translations or censorship for media you wish to consume, now and into the future?

I don't know if this question fits in this topic but I'll make it.
I've been living in Japan for about 6 months now.
When going into stores its usual to recieving a "thanks" after buying something. In my country culture (as well for all the west-culture i think) we usually reply. I replied once with "こちらこそ" even though the japanese clients usually ignore and avoid eye contact with the
clerk. When I replied the balconlady laughed at me so I can only think that this is an odd way to reply.

For me it's really hard to don't reply and it comes almost automatically when some says ありがとう. Is there any generic way to answer if I want to be polite but not strange? I think she was rude to laugh at me but I get that I might've done something strange.

>>147045084
If Japanese people don't say anything in that situation, then saying anything will be strange.

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>>147044538
平和で長生き

>>147045267
They usually avoid saying anything but sometimes they answer something (even though I never get their conversation). I think that there should be a generic way of replying, even if it's not usual.

>>147045084
>When I replied the balconlady laughed at me
wew lad

>>147038948
So the girl fucking around during lesson hallucinating when she should be studying is a metaphor for anons wasting time on djt instead of learning Japanese?

>>147045418
I think the metaphor is anons wasting time learning Japanese instead of getting a job.

>>147045084
Just say ありがと too.

>>147045084
If you have to say anything, just say いいえ.
A quick いえいえ will suffice.

>>147045465
But I have a job that gives me lots of free time to waste. I could use all this time to read nihongo and do reps but here I am

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oops, I've become fluid...someone help me

>>147045359
I think you'll have an easier time if you just let go of how you think things should be and just follow their customs.

>>147039942
A lot of my friends a language majors that learned Japanese in college so it's certainly possible.
It took them 4 years to get where I got in a year and they got no jobs, though, but hey, they did it.

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>>147045538
しっかりして

>>147045774
Of course it's possible, but self-studying is much cheaper and more efficient.

>>147039942
>Did you take a langauge in high school? Do you know it?
I took English in school and I feel like I know some of it.
Maybe stuff you're talking about is limited to burger schools and universities, here you get expelled if you don't learn what you're supposed to learn.

In the same vein as >>147045084 I've always been very confused and baffled at how people straight up ignore clerks and staff in general. Whenever one enters the shop/コンビに/whatever the clerk always greet in a very polite way but never gets acknowledged ever. Even when passing the items they never get a single "hello", and once again nothing when leaving.

I suppose it's a norm for them but I always thought it to be pretty rude. Where I'm from it's considered normal to be thankful for the service given, it doesn't matter if you're a customer, we're both human beings and deserve respect. I'm French by the way (so "bonjour" / hello, "merci (beaucoup)" / thanks (a lot), "aurevoir" / bye, bonne journée / have a great day" ).

>>147044878
Being a Translator pays well

>>147045969
You know some English because you're still using it バカ
Do you think we here in North America have any use for Spanish beyond finding workers hanging around Home Depot?

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>>147045084
put yourself in their shoes.
>1053234th customer enters
>say いらっしゃいませ
>because you're supposed to, it's a formality, no one actually cares
>1053235th customer enters
>say いらっしゃいませ because you're supposed to
>>こちらこそ
>mfw

Just stick to something small and benign to stymie the urge, like a slight nod or what >>147045491 says.

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>>147045813
oh good. Ever so much suck me.

>>147046440
I did not reply "こちらこそ" to "いらっしゃいませ".
I often greet this with a small smile.

What I did answer was after recieving "ありがとう".

日本に引っ越してイケメンフリーターになります

>>147039942
French has stuck with me because of all the French strewn about my house, books, music etc. The thing is to reinforce it, and anime/manga will do that plenty.

There are plenty of other reasons not to take a Japanese class though.

>>147046618
お前はイケメンか
ワタクシは羨ましい
不細工だから

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>>147046635
That's funny that you mentioned French because I was just learning some today. I was looking through the /int/ guide and then wondered what the Japanese did to learn it. I've been watching テレビでフランス語 and have been having fun with it. It's cool that I'm learning French via Japanese without any help from English.

I do wish the /int/ guide was as extensive as our Japanese one though. Are there any good textbooks/simple stories to download that you know of?

>>147047254
The lengths djt anons go to not study Japanese never ceases to amaze me.

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>>147047397
I was also using my Japanese ability so it's okay. It's actually even better since I'm applying it to learn something new. I'm like some multilingual freak now and it feels good.

Funny moment in the show I was watching. There was a challenge where the Japanese lady had to guess what the French one was talking about based on her French. She said "Ça sent le lys" and the Japanese lady took 'lys' for リス. She thought she was talking about a zoo but it was a flower shop.

It might seem insignificant but I feel like my world expanded just a little bit. Gave me a 'wow' moment for sure.

>>147047706
You can't learn Japanese.

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Post J-cat/JLPT scores

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>>147047755
What makes you say that? You know I already know a thing or two, right?

>>147047823
You can't learn French, either.

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>>147047835
Everyone get a load of this projecting faggot telling people they can't do things. Don't you have some reps you could be doing right now?

>>147047706
I'm genuinely happy for you if you feel content about what you're doing but from someone who speaks French and English fluently and is now advanced in Japanese you should probably tone down the enthusiasm.

>I'm like some multilingual freak now and it feels good.
You're absolutely not (yet).

>>147047930
No fun allowed, got it.

I'm surprised that advanced people are even in this thread though. Don't you have better things to do?

>>147048000
posting is loads of fun as long as you dont take it too seriously that goes for you as well even though youre not being a mean guy

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>>147048034
I guess I just forgot for a second that people in this thread hate any kind of enthusiasm. Should have kept it to myself but I have no one else to go to for my little 'ah-ha' moments. I thought someone might find it interesting though.
Might also be that people are really negative towards the French. Even French people. Don't know why though. The art and music are top tier.

>しまぱん
>しま = stripe
At last, I truly see.

>>147048282
覚醒よかったね

>>147048178
People don't like blatant egocentrism around here, so someone starts to brag about something they're still beginner at, that's like asking to get bullied.

anon did say he was genuinely happy for you, going after him asking if he didn't have better things to do as a way to shield your fragile ego wasn't the best move to do here.

>>147048422
Pfft, more like it's only ok if you're the one being the egotism.

Is there anywhere decent to download JP TV shows, neatly ordered? The only sites I've found are streaming, and the providers they use are complete cancer.

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>>147047809
This is from almost 2 months ago

>>147048422
Didn't mean to come off that way. I think you were reading too much into my comment since I certainly didn't mean to offend anyone.
I was just happy that I was able to learn something with Japanese, which I'm intermediate at, I know I'm not perfect. I know that other people are multilingual and it's no big deal for them. But I think it's really cool and it's like I stepped into that world for a minute.
But yeah, this isn't the place for that I guess. We could all do with not taking this so seriously either and that goes for you too, friend.

>>147048422
>shield your fragile ego
Ironically, it's your type of attitude that leads to the bitch fest that is /a/. The guy was very obviously joking and then the other guy took the comment seriously. Then there's you doing the same an talking about ego when really, mate, you two just need to lighten up.

More importantly I hope everyone's been doing their duty regarding Jamal shitting up the thread with off-topic posts and shitposting.

>>147048925
trying to shift focus from how much of a gay bitch you are isnt going to work 爆笑

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>>147047135
すきだよ

>>147048952
Are you a nigger or something IRL?

>>147049054
踊れ人形

http://skypech.com/
http://chatpad.jp/chatroom.html

>>147049268
Do you get off to being politely told to fuck off or something?

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I've only been studying nihongo for a month and I just watched this episode. rly connect on a deep level to be desu.

>>147040676
A reaction to maintaining the 和 in 日本語 conversations. If someone's a shitheel in 日本語 especially if they're your 先生 or 部長様 you just need to suck it up buttercup.
I try to not be mean, but if you're being ignorant and arrogant then I'll pull no punches.

Just started using Rikaisama, is there any way to save the parts of speech of a word as a separate field and not bundled together definition?

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>>147047809
>>147048625
Pic related was exactly 11 months ago. In a month I'm going to try it again to see how much I've improved, I'm quite looking forward to it.

When I do I'll post here.

>>147047809
>>147048625
>>147049619
When did you guys start studying?

>>147049647
This is me: >>147047809
I think I took this after about a year

>>147049647
I'm the second guy and when I did the J-CAT I had started 4 months ago.

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>>147047809
That's one was about 6~ months of study, after I read kimchi tim and yotsuba and done 2k

>>147049713
And this is another 6 months later, after I finished 6k, mined 4k words more, went through all 3 volumes of DoJG, read 2 VNs and 8 volumes of LNs on top of a ton of manga and multiple anime with no subs.

>>147049647
Red one. At the time I had just watched hundreds of anime, and was also accustomed to Japanese through music. Not really much serious studies, so most of these knowledge were acquired passively and through fickle curiosity.

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>>147049753
Dang, the picture

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So, /djt/ what's your go-to image in your head when you want to motivate yourself. I have a few:

>Going to a karaoke bar somewhere in Japan, everyone muttering about the gaijin, and then being pleasantly amazed when start singing Japanese songs like Cruel Angel's Thesis
>Going to a maid cafe and just having a pleasant conversation with one of the waitresses about whatever she's cosplaying
>Some little kid is amazed by the natural colour of my hair and asks if they can touch it. Their parent is annoyed at them for being so rude, but I say it's okay.

Any other weird visions you use to motivate yourself /djt/?

>I don't study Japanese anymore


神様許してください

>>147049784
no, because i lack the necessary autism

>>147049713
>>147049753
>>147049776
How come you only got 14 more points? Just one more point in reading? Despite having studied and read much more.

Not trying to bully I'd just like to hear your intake on this.

>>147049784
being able to read anything i want on sadpanda
spending the entire day fapping to eroge

>>147049784
>being pleasantly amazed when start singing Japanese songs like Cruel Angel's Thesis
More like cringing to death as everyone is tired as shit of this god damn song in karaoke.
Maid cafes are autism dens don't expect much or you're gonna get disillusioned hard.

>>147049784
Knowing that at least 50% of the gaijins are literally autistic like yourself so I'll be better off than 50% of my competitors

>>147049897
Imagining yourself in social situations having fun is not autism. It's creativity. It's the opposite of autism because you are imagining yourself in social situations.

What does autism even mean when you fuckers say it? Are you shitting on that guy because he's motivating himself by imagining himself happy? Are you trying to shit on him for attempting to obtain happiness and it might not directly fit your vision of it?

>>147049842
No idea, the difference in my ability felt like night and day but Jcat didn't think so.

I guess I fucked up reading section hard because of the tight time limit, it gives you 3 minutes for both a line of kana and a wall of text from a newspaper.

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>>147049784
I think about what is important to me.
Also nice shitty gif, tumblrtard.

>>147049784

>Holding a conversation with people about their interests.

>>147049951
It's autism because he's imagining himself in incredibly embarrassing situations without a drop of self awareness.
He won't be so happy once he tries to make those delusions a reality and people will look at him weird so its better to discourage him in the safety of an anonymous board.

>>147039422
>>147041270
>tfw don't want to read or do Anki anymore
Time to give up.

>>147049951
He's imagining the other side of the social situation in every case. It might not be autism spectrum, but it's social retardation.
Imagination:
> Everyone's pleasantly amazed
> Having a pleasant conversation in a Maid Cafe
> The parent is annoyed by her kid
Reality:
> Nobody gives a fuck
> Maid cafe employees don't give a fuck
> Parents don't give a fuck

>>147049951
>Imagining yourself in social situations having fun is not autism. It's creativity.
>having fun
>social situations

k, what is that shit called, cause the normies do it all the time in order to... ah thats it, alcohol!
Yeah, you need drugs to fuck yourself up enough in order to 'have a good time'.
If it's not autism, its just retardation.

>>147050131
What's hilarious is that even braindead niggers can learn to speak Japanese, it's not really a hard language aside from the written aspect. I don't know why he thinks people would be impressed at all, aside from basic politeness.

>>147049951
Do you yourself have autism? Because in failing to recognize the autism levels, in addition to validating his socially retarded dreams, I question your own ability to fit into society.

>>147050232
Now here's another form of autism.

>>147049784
I just watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbhNTqCFFPs

>>147049951
Damn, you sure are autistic.

Do Japanese people catch autism

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What the fuck is a 20 kilo diet? Is that where you eat 20 kilograms of food per day?

>>147050293
dang i used to bump that 10 years ago and now im watching a white dude trash the shit out of it

"feels bad man"

>>147049784
I went to karaoke and sang Hacking to the Gate and everybody laughed because I suck massive balls at singing.
I didn't go to maid cafe because 看板娘 creeped me out big time but I went to an anison event in a night club, got drunk and danced hugging some Japanese guy.
A little girl called me an oniisan so that's cool, parents weren't annoyed at all since I held an elevator door for them.

The only motivation left for me is getting a damn job there, and Japanese isn't even the most important thing I'll need to master for that.

>>147050446
Obviously means losing 20 kilos...

>>147050446
Yeah, part of a 関取 training.

>>147050446
19kg of it is water so it's not that much

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>>147050612

>>147050612
「ｎｏ」

>>147050648
why do japs write some words in katakana? to confuse the waitto pigu?

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>>147050721
why do white people use italics and bold? is it to feel more italian and assertive?

the reading list doesn't have any vita games, anyone know any easy ones to read?

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>>147050612
>>147050648

>>147050721
I dunno fuamu but it rly should be illegal to use katakana unless it's an eigo loan word.

>>147050804
How easy are we talking?
Pretty much any one that isn't a port of some VN from PC is easy as fuck.
Just pick the one you like.

>>147050804
final fantasy

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>>147050612
せいしんてきにこうじょうしんをもたないものはばかだ

>>147046142
Compared to the time and effort it takes to learn Japanese, and how to translate it, no it doesn't.

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I don't get it is he shitting on weebs or not?

>>147051053
>the time and effort it takes to learn
Takes a lot less that most of well paid professions and you can't really learn programming by reading porn games all day.

>>147051113
What makes you think he's shitting on weebs?

>>147051171
my inadequate japanese skill and the big boy words that are used

>>147038948
>she's left-handed

11/10 pic

>>147051113
He just wants to preserve the proud Japanese culture, anon.

>>147051237
全文が無いと分からないけど
今リトアニアの方では日本ブームが起こってる
でもそれは一過性のもので、
もっと深く親しんでもらうにはどうすれば良いのか

ということだと思うよ

>>147051219
Maybe he's talking shit in other paragraphs but this is just an overview of what Lithuanian weebs are up to.

>>147051131
You can learn enough programming to get an entry level position in just a few hundred hours. Cut this time in half if you're a woman because of diversity quotas.

Japanese takes a couple thousand to not only be advanced enough in Japanese, but then you also have to learn how to translate it which is another skill on top. All of this for a very poor salary

You are right though. Playing RPGs and wanking off to cartoons is more fun than learning algorithms

>>147051289
俺の夢はいずれ妹と一緒ポケモンGOのコスプレしながらセックスをすることですよ。

>>147051415
How do you even cosplay pokemon go? Just wear a red cap?

>>147051415
ロマンですな～

>>147051524
What's the nuance behind ですな?
So far I only saw it used by an airsoft miliota girl in a video game and a rapist ossan in eromanga and I don't see any common points between them.

>>147051432
かわいい娘をレアルなポケモンの姿を思い描きながら滅茶苦茶荒いなレイププレイをしたい。
実はコスプレをするかどかどっちでも構わんよ。

>>147051626
-レアル
+レア

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>>147051626
でも

チャイナ服とかねこみみとかゴスロリとか巫女服とか

ありでしょ？

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amB7_hBWHaA
Day 6 guys! Keep trying hard!

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>>147051779
>ゴスロリ
私は趣味です

>>147041270
I create vocab lists in tangorin and export them to Anki once a month.

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>>147051779
じゃあ、忍者服で一発やろうか？

>>147051613
ですな　ですなぁ　ですな～
These means are empathy.

ですな？ mean is Interrogative sentence when I am confident to meet it.

>>147051895
should have learned all of the kana in two days max, you better give up now

>>147050072
This. Autists still imagine social situations, sometimes even more than normal people, the difference is that the predictions are always horribly inaccurate.

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>>147051939
がいこくのあのんくんでしょ？

そういうlewdなにほんごどこでおぼえるの？

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wait


what

>>147052387
sounds accurate 2 me

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>>147052367
俺様の変体力を舐めるんじゃねえ！

ここには、へんたいしかいないのか

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>>147052602
変態専用スレだよ

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>>147052602
たいへんにしょうげきてきじじつ

>>147052602
ここに残ったまま君もますますえっちになる、俺が保証するよ。

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>>147052602

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>>147052367

>>147052602
変態紳士と呼ぶがいい

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>>147052971
皆逃げろう！早く全力で走り出さないと。。。

>>147052602
youtu.be/nWtnTQrFFKE#t=642

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>>147052971

>>147053174
Every time opening a youtube link in djt I pray it's not some shitty jamal's rap video and it always is.

So I've started learning basic kanji and am trying to properly understand when to read the kanji using its 音読み or 訓読み readings.

So far, I understand that if the kanji is either by itself or is used in conjunction with other kanji then it's most likely using one of its 音読み readings where if its attached with hiragana characters then you read it using its 訓読み readings.

What I want clarification on, is if the surrounding characters around the kanji are only katakana characters then would you always use the 音読み reading of it or does it differ case by case? For instance consider the word anime - アニメ where ニ is pronounced with its 音読み reading of "に”.

>>147053909
You're not funny, man.

>>147053976
I'm super cereal

Is Genki a meme? Or should I try it?

>>147054053
Genki works, but what you want to use is tae kim.

>>147054053
It's fucking awful and I can't believe people still recommend it

The dialogues are so boring they make you want to slit your wrists, and for 2 whole books, the level is shockingly low.

Then again, no other Japanese textbook is any better, which is why most of us just learn vocab and grammar separately

>>147053778
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqmYh122UEo

KORE GA UNMEI, ORE NO DESTINY, GOD WHY YOU KEEP TESTIN' ME
I GOTTA LIVE LIKE A SOLDIER
TSUNENI FRONTLINE
TSUNENI BOUDAI NA SHOUGAI YA MONDAI

>>147049784
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaokRFqsdUM

>>147054154
Yeah it's so fucking boring. I prefer learning grammar by just trying to break down sentences and googling and checking the DOJG and consulting a translation when all else fails.

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>>147054154
>no other Japanese textbook is any better
I like this one but it's german only

>>147054191
zbr produces the badhop boys so shoutouts and big ups

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>its a turtle radical

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Reminder to do your best, and work hard towards your goal! Never give up, you CAN learn Japanese!

>>147055219
That's a nice picture of 富士山

>>147055219
Really makes you think...

>>147055219
Really deep.

People are so bad at using DoJG that they're turning it into another RTK.

>>147054851
What a German book that is not shit?
Not sure if I can believe that, name?

>>147055219
Nice pape!

>>147049776
i hate to break it to you but
>know less than 1000 words
>have not read more than a trivial amount of anything
>never finished a grammar guide
>barely used DoJG, and used it in the worst way possible, the deck
>done nothing but watch english-subbed anime for the past nine months
and my jcat is higher than yours

>>147055383
Cool, good job on the text 相棒

>>147055323
Japanisch Crashcourse

Drops you right into your first Manga panel after telling you to learn Hiragana and Katakana yourself and bashing on Romaji. I found that to be pretty based.

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>>147047809
I'm an Ankidrone
Don't be an Ankidrone

>>147039422
Reps are a waste of your time if you don't read.

>>147055383
So you got lucky? There's nothing to be proud of here and nothing is proven from you getting a superficially higher score than him.

>>147055431
>Japanisch Crashcourse
Couldn't find it on amazon, I think it's not what you mean at least.

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>>147055584
No wonder, I typed Crashkurs in English. Made more sense in my brain.

>>147055518
>So you got lucky?
no, I got a maxed out grammar and listening score, that's all

200 total score is nothing to write home about

>>147055672
You must be 18 years old to use this site.

>>147055685
i'm older than you

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>>147047809
This is from one year ago.

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おなかすいた

こうちゃのみたい

みるくてぃーいれて

>>147055794
now this is my jam

>>147055794
>>147055831
Still seems fairly low.

>>147055829
ミルクならいっぱいあるよ
チンコのね

>>147055219
I got motivated again.

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>finally, I now know enough japanese to play holo's game

>it's shit

fuck

Shit has probably already been asked over a million times, but can someone explain me the fucking difference between the は and が particle? I've looked up Tae Kim and Imabi and other different sources but i'm just too fucking stupid to understand it. I got that basically は emphasizes what comes after, and が what comes before it. But that's basically it. が is used for new informations, but what the fuck are considered new informations? Can someone explain it to me in an idiot-friendly way? Fuck.

>>147056052
>it's shit

Get used to that. Most Japanese media is garbage.

>>147056052
>you spent 5000 hours learning Japanese
>most of untranslated content is shit
>realize it was untranslated for a reason
Bail out before it is too late /djt/

>>147056074
This, one of the most important skills I tought myself while learning Japanese is to enjoy shit.

>>147056052
Read reviews beforehand so you don't get disappointed. Generally anime/LN based games aren't good anyhow.

>>147056069
Just read a lot and pick it up naturally. If you try to explain it you'll only confuse yourself.

>>147056052
How about you read Holo's books instead.

>>147056156
Alright. Thanks.

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>>147055829
はいどうぞ
レディグレイだよ

>>147056090
>can't enjoy translated content anymore because it's ruined by dumb EOPs
>stop watch/reading everything
Learning Japanese is the best way to quit anime shit.

>>147056280
And replace it with what?

>>147056298
Shitposting on 4chan of course.

>>147056298
Manga

>>147056312
But you don't need Japanese for that

>>147056331
But it helps.

>>147056280
Hey, at least we'll always have that hour or two before the simulcast gets ripped.

>>147056069
What >>147056156 said. If you actually try to analyze them most particles are not as simple as you're lead to believe in beginner's courses, for example, looking up the は particle on a J-J dictionary I got 5 different definitions. It's would be a good idea to consult those definitions as you read and come across は being used in confusing ways, but it's not very helpful to try and understand them with no context to help.

>溜まりに溜まった精液

Is there a page somewhere for this grammar structure? I can guess what it means but want to read up on it more and double check.

>>147056481
There's no special structure there, it's just the use of 溜まり and 溜まる side by side that makes it look so.

小山に溜まったうんこ

溜まりに溜まった精液

Same thing.

>>147056576
Oh, cool, one less grammar structure to learn then.

>>147056576
http://flymedia.co.jp/news/blog-asia/fun/2008/
>泣きに泣いて19年の女性！

So she 泣いた into her 泣き? Seems so by your logic.

>>147056638
Okay so what is it then?

>>147056820
The に ni 溜まりに溜まった is one remnant of Classical Japanese usages of に.

Specifically this one
http://kobun.weblio.jp/content/に

>に
>格助詞
>《接続》体言、活用語の連体形に付く。は連用形に付く。
> 〔強意〕ただもう。どんどん。▽同じ動詞を重ねた間に用いる。
>「閉て籠めたる所の戸、すなはちただ開きに開きぬ」

What's the best thing to listen to, DJT?

I usually go for an hour long run every evening. I feel like this time is wasted listening to r/a/dio, so I'm looking for alternatives. Any suggestions?

>>147056867
What's your level? JapanesePod's good if your listening comprehension is still on the lower end of things

dekinai japanese thread

>>147056952
Been learning for half a year now. My listening comprehension is actually not that bad, I've been looking for something that would help me with vocab.

Is playing vidya and reading mangas with furiganas a bad thing ?
It makes the reading obviously faster than without, but i'm afraid it'll impact my long-term proficiency.

Is it ok to use those most of the time but still read each day a dozens pages worth of text without to flex my furiganaless muscles ?
Or reading with furigana at all will fuck me up and i'll 出来ない ?

>>147057120
how would it be a bad thing

>>147057120
>it'll impact my long-term proficiency.
It really won't.
You won't progress fast if you only read stuff with it but it's not going to fuck you over. Japanese read that shit for years, remember?

>>147057120
Furigana is based for being just a look away if you don't know the reading, just try to look at the kanji first and check furigana afterwards.

That's how I did it, now I rarely check it. Unless I'm reading some edgy vn with Vietnamese chu nom for fucking verbs.

>>147056867
>>147057108
Check some Japanese audio books, like sherlock holmes or similar.

>>147057120
I don't know if it's just because I did kanji study but over time I just transitioned from furigana text to non furigana text without even noticing, I'm sure it's not as much of a crutch as you think

>>147057291
I'm paranoid i'm not using a good enough method. And you lot are mainly responsible for it. Curse you all !

>>147057303
I mean, that's a good point but i don't want to progress like a japanese.

>>147057325
Now that i think about it, that's what i do automatically, i guess i pick up the furiganas in my peripheral vision without need to focus on them.


Ok, i can do it. Thank you for your time.

>>147057120
>tfw you can't remember if the game you have been playing for a few weeks now has Furigana or not
feels a bit 出来る.

>>147057120
At first you'll feel like you're looking at the furigana all the time and cheating but it really isn't true.
The farther you go in a reading matter you'll find it unneeded to look at them. The hardest part of a game/book is always the beginning.

>>147057396
Okay, I'll look for it. Thanks.

>>147057546
I tried one during a 2 hour car drive but it didn't work so well. My focus always drifted away.

Not even sure why I grind any more. Gone right off anime, and JRPGs but I've put so many hours into getting to a point where I can read with little difficulty

Feel like I'm stuck in some kind of sunk-cost fallacy

>>147056069
Tae kim's explanation is not great, perhaps due to his poor grasp of english. Try to ignore it if you can, especially that "x is the one that is y" shit.
The general spirit is that は is setting the context of what follows (and persists until the next は), whereas が is specifically saying what the marked thing is doing or being (and persists only until the end of the clause).

>>147057625
What does "gone right off" mean? Lost interest? If so try some Japanese books, I enjoy them much more than anime/manga

>>147045084
What the other anon said, reply with a soft and quick はい or いえ. You can always try the silence bow with just your head thing or ざいます your way out of there.

>>147047809
J-cat deleted my login but I think it was around 190.

>>147054154
みんなの日本語 was pretty good in combination with classroom studying, don't think you can easily use it for self-teaching though

>>147056069
は is "listen, faggot, we're talking about this shit now until someone says otherwise"
が is "heard all that shit I said? it's about what's before が"

>>147057681
>or ざいます your way out of there
That's the cool way to do it.

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How jelly are you guys right now?

What a perfect way to spend 9/11

>>147056839
Neat, thanks.

>>147057923
How awkward is was, nig pal?

>>147057923
Doesn't get much better than being a niggaboo

Max jel

>>147057923
I could never be jelly even if you were a millionaire because at the end of the day I wouldn't be a shitskin nignog m8.

I've been to Akiba and got dragged to a shitty maid cafe anyway and thought it meh, too /jp/4me.

>>147057965
Not awkward at all, I am a casanova by heart.

>>147057923
Look at her face, she wishes for you to die.

>>147058005
Did you sense that she desires your BBC?

>>147057396
where do you obtain them?

>>147056069
http://lang-8.com/1211766/journals/221006869524174914707177133515226252334

>>147056638
>>147056839
Is it the equivalent of "cried and cried"?

>>147058027
Yeah, but I get that from every woman.

>>147058107
Yeah.

>>147058135
Pretty cool. Thanks for explaining.

>>147057923
She's ugly but you're cute. No homo

Am I allowed to call myself intermediate if I am able to read spicy wolf with a dictionary?

>>147057923
>@Home Cafe 4f
>not picking any animal ears for the photo

>>147058285
You're an advanced beginner.

>>147058285
Judging by the utter wasters you see on language forums and youtube, you can be called intermediate if you know how to introduce yourself, say where you're from, and say your age

>>147058285
Test if you're intermediate here: https://imgur.com/rQVQWq6

>>147058275
vast improvement, soft kek

>>147058285
You can call yourself Sensei if that somehow helps you with your studies.

>>147058285
Yeah being able to read an LN with moderate use of a dictionary puts you somewhere around N2

未来は誰にも分からない。。。

How long does JCAT take?

>>147057923
I never really understood the appeal of maid cafes. Do you enjoy seeing forced smiles and bad acting?

I do feel sorry for the girl though.

>>147058443
About 1h.

>>147058443
Depends on how good you are. If you give nothing but correct answers the difficulty increases and the reading exercises become tl;dr enough to take over an hour.

>>147058487
Some people are too autistic to see through the facade

minasan hajimemashite ^__^ watashi no namae wa james-san desu! yoroshiku oneigaishimasu ne~

>>147058702
面倒くさいな…

>>147058702
james-sanさん始めまして

>>147058702
konnichiwa

watashi no nihongo wa saikyou desu

>>147058497
>the reading exercises become tl;dr enough to take over an hour
Except you still get 3 minute limit.

What's the funniest word you've learned lately?

Just came across 鯖読み.

>>147058487
>Do you enjoy seeing forced smiles and bad acting?
I get that in every restaurant in the US too, but maid's take it to the next step and do silly stuff with you.

>>147058069
http://rtkwiki.koohii.com/wiki/Japanese_Audiobooks_with_Transcripts

I think I listened to The Murders in the Rue Morgue.

Anyone here use Kanji de Manga?