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Tales of Zestiria the X

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How can Re:Zero's fight scenes compare?
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Why would you even bring Re:zero up?
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>>147034843
this desu. the thread's going to be shit and it won't even be because of Rosefags.
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When does Velvet get her own anime series?
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>>147035727
2018
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>>147034843
>not realizing OP is such a faggot that wanted his thread shitposted to death.
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>>147035727
Hopefully never, she's boring
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>>147036677
She got more personality and purpose to her actions then game sleigh. Zestiria always have to be modify in someway because the original is shit.
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>>147036677
She's more interesting than 90% of Zestiria's characters.
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>>147035727
When she gets her own shota again.
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Sorey is best boy with cutest smile.
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>>147040052
Sorey is a muppet! A muppet!
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>>147040197
that's rude!
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Are you ready?
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if best boy can't save the thread, can best girl?
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Sorey and Mikleo are fucking adorable as little shotas.
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>>147043218
Yes, they are.
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>>147034760
>stood there and fired literally one arrow
>fight scene
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Is the first half of Zestiria the X ending at episode 12 or 13?
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>>147046199
should be 12. the first episode was 00 and it's supposed to have 13 episodes.
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>>147046199
>first half
There's a second cour?
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>>147047610
Yeah, Winter 2017
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>>147047654
Holy shit neat.
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>was able to kill a dragon puppy with just a normal arrow

Pfft, what's even that little moe creature Attack's role when Sorey can already bring that much attack power without wearing him on top his head?
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>>147047701
Maybe moe creature can combine with Mikleo when Sorey's combined with Lailah or the other girl
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>>147047610
No shit. We're not even that far in the story yet. Did you expect the story to wrap up in 3 episodes?
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>>147035727
Will Velvet get a cameo in Zesty or was the two promo episodes it?
I wish she'd appear for one battle at least.
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>>147034760
>comparing aots to a cgi show for fujos.
Here >>>/trash/
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>>147034760
I get that you're desperate to have threads that's not filled with Ednaposting, homolusting or Alishafags vs Rosefags, but baiting Re:Zero fags is in bad taste.
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>>147048412
>re:zero
>AOTS
Retard.
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>>147047654
Was this even confirm yet?
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I dropped Zestiria because ufotable had gone full retard with its habit of abusing CGI and post-processing. It was barely tolerable in UBW and I see they haven't changed their ways in this.
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Rosefags are going to get BTFO hard.
Ufo will make Alisha permanent member of the party
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>>147053140
Eleanor is Alisha and Rose combined and done right with an improved design to boot.
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>>147053684
She looks like Sorey and Rose's lovechild.
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>>147053684
Don't compare her to Alisha and Rose, Eleanor has more personality than the entire Zestiria cast put together
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>>147034760
totally insecure and having to compare it to AOTS

you are fighting a losing battle anon
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>>147049508
>Ednaposting

Let the games begin
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>>147054317
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>>147042238
Mikleo has a really small waist
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What does Re:Zero have to do with this show?
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5 mins
get in here niggas
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The first thing they do after meeting is having a date in ruins.
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not gay
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>>147056886
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last drink before she fucked off forever
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>>147057214

i dont get it
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>>147057214
Yamcha pose.
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>>147057163
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main heroine is here
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>Episode called Alisha Diphda
>Has Rose
Abandon the ship.
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Why did I expect something else?
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>>147057344
Bullying has no end.
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m9
rude
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>>147057318
Sorry bit even the voice actors came out and admitted that Rose isn't the heroine.
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>>147057421
She is plotting something bad.
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>>147057438
Ruining the anime, too?
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>>147057449
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>>147057449
Probably.
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>Sorey having trouble purifying a human
Now that's an interesting plot point they should have included in the game.
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qt
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>>147057539
She's gonna die for more Alisha suffering right?
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>>147057531
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>meebo meebo meebo
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>>147057438
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Can you keep up with me?
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That new music.
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>>147057660
My sides.
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So Rose wasn't able to kill Alisha, with her wielding just a parrying dagger si she tries again while surrounding her.
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>>147057236
>last drink before she fucked off forever

>not having an original anime episode all about her excursion
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sasuga hime
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Alisha looks so cool now. What an improvement.
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There isn't even an squire subplot in the anime.
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>>147057660
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Did Alisha just BTFO Rose?
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Wow, Alisha has Rose working for her.
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HOLY SHIT ROSE IS GONNA HELP ALISHA INSTEAD
BASED UFOTABLE
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>>147057739
Yes. Truly amazing.
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>>147057739
Nah, they didn't want to kill Alisha this time around. It was a trial.
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SHIN NO NAKAMA
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UFOTABLE SAVED ZESTIRIA

Baba get rekt.
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ROSE X ALISHA WINS
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>>147057845
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>>147057832
Seems like she made a genuine effort to off her again only to be stopped, this time with logic.
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>I trust you, Rose.
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it's not even similar to the game at this point
a good thing
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>>147057880
>>147057899
Having them as rivals instead of squire is a very good move from ufo.
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Every week they keep finding new ways to demonstrate that Baba was the only guy ruining things.
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nips rike it
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>>147057937
>1.4%
Because of Rose?
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>>147057990
No. Stream was lagging as shit today. Stopped mid way too
The comments are saying that they want Zestiria R that follow the anime and has changed their thought of Rose. They like her now
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>>147057800
>>147057841

So are we going to have an original episode or an arc starring these two? Maybe have it parallel Sorey's and Mikeo's relationship?
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Squire was always a shitty concept anyway.
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>>147057953
I hope they have him strapped down and eyes forced open with constant moisture being applied to them so he can just suffer whilst he is forced into watching himself get BTFO.
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>>147058029
> They like her now
Seeing how she didn't try to steal Sorey and Alisha's place, I kind of understand.
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RoseAri was trending in Japan, kek.
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How the sales for this series doing so far.
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>>147057952
The Squire subplot was always just a stupid excuse anyway.

>>147058029
Because she's not stealing anyone else's spotlight.
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>>147058210
Zero since the BD won't be released until December 22.
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>>147058210
Zestiria has a really late release.
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so would alisha still be in sorey's party or what?
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>>147058096
>Squire was always a shitty concept anyway.
So far it looks like it was purely for game play reasons. Though there is still a chance it could be introduced later, I will dread every moment of that.

They probably won't do the elemental temples either since those felt like they were purely for game play reasons. They might get the blessings from the lords through a different means still.
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>>147058418
She was never in his party, but it seems like they're going the duertagonist route, which is actually better.
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>>147058383
true nakama
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>>147058418
No. Alisha and Rose will deal with human and society problems while meeting Sorey from times to times.
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>>147058446

I thought the whole point of the squire system was basically so they had an excuse to shoehorn Rose into the group because she's conveniently got extremely high resonance compared to Alisha who is suddenly "weak" and is straining Sorey. Basically Baba pulling shit out of his ass.
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Kinda sad my seiyuufu is not tweeting anything TOZX. She's not even following the official twitter.
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>>147058447
>She was never in his party, but it seems like they're going the duertagonist route, which is actually better.

So is the series going to split focuses between the two in future episodes?
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>>147058608
who's that dead girl?
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>>147058606
It really does seem to be that way. It seems as though it wasn't even really for gameplay purposes in hindsight.
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>>147058662
Seems that way.
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>>147058662
We don't know yet for sure, but it looks like that's going to happen.
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>>147058669
That'a driving license, you dummy.
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>>147058608
She can't anymore, with all the bad reputation her character has.
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>>147058662
looks like it, and that's actually pretty cool. anime BTFOs the game completely so far.
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>>147058608
She can't not when Baba ruined everything for her.
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>[HorribleSubs] Tales of Zestiria the X - 10 [720p].mkv
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I wonder if the anime goes on really fix all of Zestiria's problems, if it will create a demand for a sequel.
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>>147059385
Heck I'd be more than happy to pay and play a revamped Zestiria let alone a sequel.
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>>147059385
Berseria 2 when?
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>>147058383
Rose x Alisha!
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>>147059441
This episode seems to causing Nips to demand a Zestiria R that follows the anime.
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>>147057539

Who's this girl? An anime original?
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>>147059653
Yup
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Why is Edna so best?
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>>147057660
How many times are these fuckers going to try and kill her?
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>>147059784
This is the last time, believe in Rose
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WHY IS THIS SO GOOD. At this rate I'll be joining the Nips in protest for Zestiria R.
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>>147059816
It seems like this is the last time for Rose though.
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What's up with Alisha's weir death flag?
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>>147059626
Zestiria R with extended homo end when??
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>>147059907
weird*
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>Edna is the only one that gets thrown up because she's tiny
HHHHHHNNNNNNGGGG.
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>>147059918
i want this too. or a playable epilogue where they explore a ruin alone together.
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>>147059918
We can have a homo end with them and a yuri end with RoseAli now
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Alisha is gonna fake die.
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>>147060014
If the manga is to be believed they continue fixing the mistake of the past shepherds and human and seraphim relations.
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>>147060113
RoseAli are more homo and the homos feel more yuri.
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>>147059626
It just hit me though, that if a Zestiria R was to happen taking into account changes due to the anime: Theres no more Matsuki Miyu to voice Lailah
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>>147060113
i always thought it was interesting that Sorey x Mikleo is the pure childhood friend relationship and Rose x Alisha are rivals that have an actual catfight. usually the genders are swapped with those dynamics.
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>>147060229
>>147060264
I am ok with this
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>>147059385
>I wonder if the anime goes on really fix all of Zestiria's problems, if it will create a demand for a sequel.

Maybe they could actually finish the story laid out in Alicia's DLC
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How did Alisha knew it was Rose?
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>>147058123
I played through and finished the game over the course of the last few days after having gotten it for cheap from bamco's store at 92% off. Rose was my least favourite character, the AI was beyond pants on head retarded, and the ending was stupid as shit. The plot of the anime is completely different at that, so I at least kind of like that point.
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>>147034760
80% of that "fight" scene is post-processing and CGI you autistic cunt.
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>>147060113
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>>147060315
Only they could do that is by literally remaking the main game as well as the first Alisha DLC. As it stands right now the first Alisha DLC is literally shit.
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This episode was great.
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Best bros
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>>147060412
Poor Zaveeda.
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>>147060412
Zestiria proves that boys should love boys and girls should love girls
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>>147060412
Well, we now know for certain that there's one thing this party isn't: a breeding ground.
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>>147060515
he has a hard life.
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>>147060412
Nips are going to be having a field day with the double homo end.
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>>147058383
The preview was so much fun.
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So, Rose and Alisha are going to be BFFs now?
I'm okay with this.
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Damn, how does she even walk with that huge pair of balls between her legs?
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>>147060579
>A whole new world---
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>>147058383
What is that disgusting glyph that looks like 私
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>>147060744
That's what it is, but I also share your sentiments.
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>Ufotable saved both Alisha and Rose at the same time
I wonder how Baba feels right now.
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>>147061074
blown the fuck out, i hope. if he'd made his shitty waifu character like this from the start she never would have been hated
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>>147060229
The nips agree, there's a lot of twitter posts about RoseAli being BL and the homos being yuri.
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>>147061074
He has a dedicated suicide watch since Berseria was released.
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>>147061262
I wonder how many times he's tried to kill himself from when episode 00 aired?
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>>147061173
What are the nip tweeters saying about this episode?
Did they like it?
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Greatest beauty in this century
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As someone who hasn't played the game, I expected the worst out of this episode but I actually thought Rose and Alisha were great. Was this what happened in the game or is ufo just further juxtaposing Baba's fuckup?
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am i understanding this episode right? does Sorey have to take in the malevolence from human hellions to purify them?
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MOCHIRON!
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>>147061517

This is massively changed (and by all accounts, massively improved) from the games.
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>>147061442
They love it, in between gushing about Sorey and Mikleo, they're also gushing about Rose and Alisha, and posting Yamcha. Seems as though they're quite happy with Sorey and Alisha's development as characters.
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>>147061528
Yeah, the Shepherd absorbs the malevolence out of human hellions. And they can't share this burden with their fellow seraphs so it's a really heavy toll on them.
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Where can I get my own Mikleo?
>tfw no waifu to be concerned about my well being
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>>147061603
>and posting Yamcha
This?
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>>147061633
this is new from the games, isn't it? it's pretty interesting. better explains why Lailah had so many shepherds go off the deep end.
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>>147061517
The anime has really a massive departure from, and that's not a bad thing.
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>>147061704
I was thinking that too. Makes her a lot more understandable compared to what I hear about her game counterpart.
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>>147061684
Yeah they're laughing at him.
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>>147061792
Her game counterpart is basically "LALALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU" on almost everything that isn't an enemy description.
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Is it still boring shit this week too? Brief summary of what happened please. This looks all new
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>>147061704
How does a Shepard keep themselves from turning into a hellion then? I feel like Lailah was responsible for counseling them so that they didn't go crazy, but it's obvious that she dropped that ball multiple times.
Also it doesn't excuse the fact that she picked shitty shepards.
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>>147061870
Bretty interesting actually senpai. Go watch the episode.
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I want to marry Eizen!
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>>147061792
Yeah her actions of wanting to keep Sorey out of human matters, because she's trying to protect Sorey. It also helps Sorey's character. It doesn't excuse Lailah from picking shitty sheperds from the start.

Though from what I heard she's at fault for a lot of bullshit that Michael went through.
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>>147061905
But considering that they get more and more tainted as they travel, it could just be that the shepherds she chose were actually really good candidates when starting out. Humans are never predictable and you never know how a person is going to turn out after going such a journey.

I suppose picking a shepherd is somewhat like picking an investment? You'll know a golden egg when you see it but eventually few months down the line, it's still all a gamble.
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>>147061865
damn that was fast.

>>147061870
Alisha has HUGE BALLS and purifying humans fucks shepherds up.
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The secret to writing a good adaptation: double the gay, double the fun.
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>>147057660
>Alisha beats the shit out of Rose
>Again
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>>147062006
In the game the personality types that Lailah favored were people like Rose, or just straight up moralfags. Both of whom are terrible candidates for shepherd.

Also if the rumor is to be believed then she's also the reason why Michael even moved Maotelus to begin with, on top of raising Michael.
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>>147062238
Why does this feel like cheating.
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>>147061865
I am not able to watch this episode yet, so what happened. Did Rose graze Alisha?
And why is ir RoseAli instead of AliRose?
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>>147062006
The other anon already pointed it out. Lailah picks people like Rose and Artorius, ironically, who fail to understand that they should be trying to solve the root of the issue, not the symptoms.

Also, she raised Michael, who turned out to be an angsty moralfag, which tells you something about her oen viewpoints. Apple dragon needs to find a new oneesan.
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OUR GODDESS IS FINALLY BACK

PRAISE BE
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>>147062326
Alisha convinced Rose to work for her.
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>>147062417
Alisha made Rose her bitch this episode. it was wonderful.
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>>147062417
Baba didn't they take away your internet?
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This season will end as Sorey loses his ability to perceive seraphim. Mark my words.
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>>147062534
>he doesn't know
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>>147062238
>he thought Edna was an actual pure loli
Heh
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>>147062487
Haters gonna hate
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>>147062593
She took baths with her oniichan. Of course she's not pure.
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>>147062534
The pacing is weird. Ganondorf hasn't even shown up yet, neither has Dezel, and the second half in winter is supposed to have a shorter amount of episodes. I wonder how the pacing of the 2nd half will be.
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>>147062267
Mikleo is attempting to get back at Sorey for all the hand holding action with Alisha.
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>>147062652
>second half in winter is supposed to have a shorter amount of episodes.
Isn't it just going to be another full cour 12-13 episodes?
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>>147062534
damn that'd be an awful cliffhanger. i wonder if Rose will still be forced to save him in that situation. kind of hoping he manages to get away on his own, or that he'd get saved by Rose and Alisha together.

i'd rather it ends on a more hopeful note than the total despair of Sorey not being able to see his cute wife though...

>>147062652
Heldalf didn't show up in the games until Glaivend Basin, which is where they're going next. Dezel actually was briefly shown in one episode. i guess he hides when Sorey is nearby.
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>>147062238
I like their interactions. It seems to me like Mikleo just wants a cute little sibling to dote over while Edna is anything but.
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So is the anime finally better than the game?
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>>147062402
She didn't pick Artorius though, she picked Michael and then left him on his own after he started his own village.
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They're going to completely rewrite the story, I bet Alisha will fake die.
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>>147062631
What a disgusting brocon.
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>>147062652
Pretty sure Dezel was only revealed when Sorey was resting after Rose saved him post-Glaivend Basin.
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>>147061958
Who doesn't?
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>>147062744
>what is reading comprehension?
I said she picks people LIKE them. Aka edgy moralfags who break more than they fix.
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First season of the anime will end with Alisha "killed", Sorey losing his ability to see Seraphim and everything going to hell just to have a big cliffhanger for S2.
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>>147062728
>he hasn't played the game
Its the opposite, Edna just wants a stepping stool in the form of a little bro - Mikleo was just being polite to what looked like a 8 yr old. Now he must suffer for eternity.
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>>147062753
You'd be a brocon too if your oniichan was as hot as Eizen.
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>>147062728
yeah their relationship is more like Mikleo being the little brother Edna loves to torment. he's a baby compared to her.

>>147062746
i could see that happening, or Alisha having to flee into Rolance to try to forge peace on her own. maybe Maltran will go full hellion at Glaivend and/or try to kill her.
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>>147061494
agree
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>>147062728
>implying Mikleo isn't actually secretly a lolicon
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>>147062875
>projecting
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>>147062867
Alisha needs to "die", it was pretty much set-up this episode.
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>>147062652
He's more like Darth Vader really.
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Reminder that Heldelf literally did nothing wrong and Michael is at fault for everything.
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>>147062978
maybe this time Heldalf will try to convince Sorey to join him by playing the 'I am your Father' card.

>>147063195
i used to agree with this but he left his pregnant mistress behind to get slaughtered by Hyland valkyries, that's pretty fucked up.
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>>147063229
To be fair he probably didn't know that she was pregnant. He was a general and you can't risk losing valuable soldiers to save one person. Michael was stupid for relocating to a risky area anyways.
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>homolust end
>scissoring end
>Edna will stop being a brocon after they kill him and go to Zaveid
>Lailah will join occasionally
This show has a pretty neat pair up system
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That looks horrible though. Why does this have 200+ replies? I'm not going to take my time to read through them all, but I hope they're mostly calling that scene trash, because it looks like garbage and every Tales anime IS trash.
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>>147063308
Michael might have done that because he was instructed to do so by Lailah.
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>>147061494
The greatest.
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Serious question.
Aren't dragons supposed to be ultra rare?
Why is there a dragon in almost every episode?
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>>147062417
So, how did Alisha know it was Rose all along again?
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>>147063336
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>>147063467
she could smell the hypocrisy
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>>147063467
Sexual Tension
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>>147061865
Am I allowed to like this development? It might be cute.
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>>147061494
Yes
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>>147063308
how could he not know she was pregnant? she was far enough along that Sorey managed to survive, she had to be showing.

and it's kind of fucked up to blame the villagers for Heldalf parking troops in their town. even Michael can't be responsible for Heldalf baiting Hyland and then callously leaving them all to die. yes, he had responsibilities to his country and his troops but he's still the reason why the villagers of Camlann died. he's not completely blameless, he's just not responsible for what happened to Maotelus. that's on Michael's head.
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>>147063467
They're going for 'Sasuga Alisha', and going to suck Alisha's vagoo.

You'll see no one will die after this.
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>>147063467
I like to believe her ribboned daggers gave it away. She was even wearing them earlier this episode when they met.
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>>147063463
The world is in an age of calamity. The abundance of dragons is supposed to highlight how fucked up everything is.

>>147063406
Lailah confirmed for ruining everything.
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>>147063532
Yes. The boys are gay and the girls are too.

I swear, Zestiria's game promo made it look like it was going to be the straightest game after Abyss, with Sorey and Alisha plastered side by side everywhere. Then boom, homo.
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>>147063463
dragons are rare but we've only seen two so far: the one that keeps showing up and that Sorey is chasing, and Eizen in the Edna episode. last week's 'dragon' was a drake, which isn't a full dragon yet.
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>>147063467
Voice, breast size and the fact that she was conveniently in two places where the assassin attacked her.
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>>147063580
He probably had been away from her for months. If that's the case then it makes sense for him to not know.
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>>147063580
It could be that he was too busy to visit her since the war was going on.

My point is that Heldalf would've never used the village as a strategic sacrifice if Michael didn't choose to relocate to the mountains between the two countries.
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>>147063580
Yeah people ignore this but had Hedalf not decided to stay in the village, it's likely that Hyland would have just occupied it, similar to what Hedalf did.

>>147063705
He stayed in the village up until Hyland attacked.
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Go Shiina should have handled every track for the anime

everything he does now just sounds like God Eater

I'm okay with that
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>>147063467

The anime is writing Alisha as a competent person who more or less knows what she's doing.

... Which might be problematic when it comes to a later plotpoint from the games, but I have hopes that ufotable will know how to fix it.
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>>147063643
>>147063643
Well they're making more money off of FlynnxYuri and RitaxEstelle especially the former than they ever did off of canon Tales relationships so of course they decided to make all the youngsters homo.
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>>147063580
The whole thing with Heldalf mistress is manga only, it's not canon

Michael built a village in the middle of an area contested by both countries and that often saw skirmishes, it's fucking retarded.
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>>147063823
It actually isn't a lot of the "Alisha is incompetent" were really just there to either kiss Rose's ass or just a means of including more filler, but it ultimately wasn't necessary to the plot.
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>>147063705
how was he away from her for months when his soldiers were occupying the area? and you just know it was probably a scandal in their village for her to get pregnant after the occupation started, unless she had a husband she was cucking. there's no way he didn't know.
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>>147063336
The only trash tales anime is eternia.
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>>147063912
Anon, the manga is only drawn by a third party, the story however is written by BAMCO staff and then given to an artist to draw.

This actually isn't the first time that Tales series have had manga that have important plot info, Abyss, Vesperia all had manga that did the same thing.
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>>147062652
Heldalf literally doesn't show up until this War part and Dezel is right after. The first courbwill either end after the war and Heldalf part or after Rose and Dezel join the party.
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>>147063630
I totally overlooked that, that's a pretty glaring point really. How'd they manage to stay as a feared assassination guild with such incompetence from their leader?
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>>147064063
Because Rose is perfect and can do no wrong.
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>>147064063
Well I think that you'd have to be pretty incompetent yourself to follow a leader like that.
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>>147064063
they're constantly on the move due to their merchant cover and it's probably rare for someone to meet Rose in both of her occupations and still be alive afterwards.

also, luck.
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>>147061673
I can be your Mikleo, anon
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>>147064024
Not to mention after all that Baba drama, a lot of the material that was supposed to be in the game got cut off. The manga seems like it's trying to cover what they couldn't in the game.
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Did they just hint that Alisha's gonna die?
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>hey guys what if
>what if we killed Alisha and replaced her with Rose?
>I know everyone loves Rose
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>>147064281
Probably a fake death. They won't kill Alisha because she has to keep her country safe from crazy corrupted politicians.
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>>147064281

She's going to 'die' and we're going to see what comes of her ideals, yes.
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>>147057421
Why is that dumb bitch still trying to kill Alisha?
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>>147064249
In addition the anime has been taking more of it's cues from the manga instead of the game.
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Reminder that Lailah ruined everything.
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Hoping Ufotable does an episode Alisha OVA now that fixes that too. By then, they'll have an entire season of /u/ to justify it and not make Alisha a beta.
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>>147064587
They can just do what the Alisha manga did.
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shes pretty great honestly
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>>147064587
>Alisha OVA
>occasionally cuts to Mikleo looking sadly off into the distance where Sorey's light is
i'm not sure i could deal with that. the credits from the DLC were bad enough.
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Alisha became a very badass bully victim.
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>>147064679

There's an Alisha manga?
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Oh man the irony in this.
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Spooked-out Rose and Squire Rose when? Next season?
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Re zero sakuga is garbage but this is just your average ufotable cgi shit all over the screen with little 2d character animation
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>>147064768
Yup, the first two chapters are translated too.
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>>147064799
Yeah Rose is always hypocritical.
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Why is Alisha so fucking cute? Holy fuck man. I want to protect her.
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>>147061684
>>147061815
I couldn't stop thinking about that while watching the episode. I laughed so hard.
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>>147064995
She doesn't need your protection. Maybe game Alisha because her lover is suffering, but anime Alisha's lover is Rose and duty.
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>>147065025
Alisha has a lover in the game?

Is the game actually worth playing?
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>>147065087
No, and no.
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>>147065087
no the game is absolutely horrible.
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>>147065087
You baka. It was a joke. And no. Alisha's lover is her country, but I imagine she had offsprings so she married a literal who along the way.
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>>147034760
Them forcing two of the characters in your party was a blunder
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Who can refuse these prices?
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>“In Tales series, usually the relationship between the hero and the heroine deepens, but in Zestiria, the focus is on two male childhood friends.” - Ohsaka Ryouta (Mikleo's va) Sept. 2016 Newtype Magazine

In case there was still any doubt or skepticism.
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Please tell me this means more /u/
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>>147065200
Agreed, and the seraphim were far too shitty to play as.
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>>147065382
I'm pretty sure that Rose is more likely to lick carpet at this point.
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>>147065429
The OP has them fighting side by side, so I'm hoping we'll see them tag teaming some enemies or something.
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>>147064754
She's fed up with all this bullshit.
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>>147061544

> It's a bowl of thick soup filled with chunks of ingredients.

> Sorey drinks it like it's a cup of tea.

It shouldn't bother me. But it does.
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>>147065429
The artist said that he/she would like to draw more RoseAli because the DLC, swimsuits and uniforms are kawaii.
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Is Alisha the best heroine of the season?
Of course yes
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>>147065429
Yeah sure
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>preview skit
>tfw you remember that they're real life friends
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>>147065641
I'll be waiting warmly then
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>>147061494
Regretted not preordering the scale.
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>>147065429
probably. they were already kind of popular.
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>Two character of the same sex get along well
>They must be gay

Can some one explain this logic to me?
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>>147065187
>but I imagine she had offsprings so she married a literal who along the way.
She won Sergei
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>>147065087
No, and to be dead honest, I'd only recommend playing the game if you got it really cheap or free. It does however hold the position of being the only game that managed to hit me in the feels in the last 5+ years withDezel's death scene.

The manual is worthless, nothing useful is explained (like how artes are even learned in the first place), the player party AI is abysmal, the stamina system in battle and out of it, having to get into an encounter every 30-60 seconds if you want to go fast, and the fact that for me by the endgame I was using gear I got not even halfway through simply because it allowed me to bypass enemy elemental resistances.
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>>147065908
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>>147065908
>Two characters of the opposite sex get along well
>They must want to fuck each other

It's just how it is for everything with shippers, anon.
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>>147065908
>Can some one explain this logic to me?
Anime fanbase
Low IQ
Etc
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>>147034760
What's up with japanese and oversized weapons, it is some kind of complex?
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>>147065908
>Two character of the same sex get along well
>They must be straight

Can someone explain this logic to me?
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Alisha will die for Baba's sins.
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Tales of Zestiria the anime the game when?
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>>147035727

when they need to advertise the Tales of that will come after berseria
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>>147066038
>no titty monster porn
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>>147066044
Because it's cool.
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for someone who played the game and thought it was pretty mediocre is the anime worth watching?
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>>147065908
they're cute together, that's all i care about.
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>>147066135
>is the anime worth watching?
There are like 3 really good episodes, while the rest is just slow and boring as fuck. But ultimately the writing improves very much on the game so why not? If you like the characters enough, I don't see the problem. I don't though.
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>>147066135
Anime is fixing some problems the game has and also introduces us to the start of Berseria. I think it's worth a watch.
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>>147066082
If she goes out in a cool way, at least that's a better use of the character.
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>>147066128
She was basically a non-character in the game.
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>>147066135
if you liked Alisha at all, the anime fixes her.
if you liked Edna, her episode is great. it was also good to Zaveid.
the Berseria episodes are good if you're at all interested in playing that game when it comes out next year. Berseria is reportedly a much better game than Zestiria.
overall the anime is much better than the game.
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>>147066135
anime is actually better than the game
secondary wins this time
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>>147066349

>anime is actually better than the game

So far.

There's still plenty of time for them to screw up everything.
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>>147066394
why do you have to be such a downer? and why do you have to be right?
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>>147065908
Don't know about you but this looks like deliberate /u/ bait to me.
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Why does everyone hate Alisha?
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>>147065908
the same shit as with hets, really. when man and woman get along well, everyone expects them to get together in the end. i mean there are sorey x alisha shippers
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>>147066744

> Entire thread is people being happy that the anime gave Alisha a spine and a set of brass balls.

"Why does everyone hate Alisha?"

Anon...
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Am I the only one who thought this was some kind of skyscraper cityscape at first and was confused as fuck?
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>>147065908
So if Sorey and Mikleo were a boy and girl you wouldn't think that they wanted to fuck?
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>>147066744
>Why does everyone hate Rose?
FTFY. Nobody who regulars these threads hates Alisha except the occasional baiter.
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They're gonna fuck, right?
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>>147066744
The only thing I hated about Alisha was that she couldn't do a kamui.
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>>147065934
Whos name was on the grave at the end? And that dude didn't look like Sorey.
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>>147066860
>Why does everyone hate Rose?
I don't get that.
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>>147066881
Fuck Rose and Mikleo? Yes.
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>>147066881
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>>147034760
Is this yaoi?
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>>147066881
They actually look like siblings to me.
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>>147066969
Anon is saying is that if you think that people on 4chan in general hate Alisha then you're really a newfag.
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>>147066995
Sorey ships it.
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>>147065908
when two character of the same gender get along well, pushed by the game as soulmates, get to be together forever, have hints that they find each other attractive.. yeah the combination of it is pretty gay to me. not to mention that they don't have any canon-hetero-love interests to no homo their gay tension
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>>147066912
No idea, and the shepard seen during the credits wasn't Sorey. Someone shows up at the very end credits scene and saves a now older Mikleo who fell into a pitfall trap. Presumably this is Sorey judging by his reaction/the glove.
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>>147066881
>People like you make me wish that winter came faster.
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>>147067078
Don't forget, the creators outright say that there isn't any relationship between either male character and anyone of the opposite gender.
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>>147066969
Anon, nobody hates Alisha here. Same for Edna. The hate here is mostly geared towards Baba (the previous Tales producer), Rose and Lailah. Your accusation has no basis, is what I'm saying.
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None gamefag here, was actually caught off guard that the Assassin turned out to beRose.
The nips were right, she truly was the worst girl.
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>>147066881
you must be new here. everyone knows sorey's gonna fuck with mikleo
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>>147067412
Wait, what. Did you watch episode 00? She shows her face there.
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>Alisha NTRs Baba by taking Rose away from him, and calling her a stupid bitch (she is) right before taking her back to the Inn to bang
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>>147067495
Sorey's far too stupid and pure to fuck anyone
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>>147067412
How could you possibly miss that?
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>>147067644
>Sorey's far too stupid
That's not nice. He's just a muppet.
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>>147067212
i find this statement to be misinterpreted desu. cotext makes it clear that baba was talking about how sorey is too pure for your usual romance shit between m/f. yeah, there is emphasis on m/f so it can potentially be wink wink nudge nudge towards homo end, but it isn't outright confirmation of anything
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People are already saying that this Rose is better than game Rose. Is her personality different already? Or is it just the way she's portrayed?
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>>147067644
Sorey's not stupid at all. Naive would be a better word.
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>>147067727
It's not Baba's interview that I'm talking about, also reading comprehension anon.
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Do you guys think Rose and Dezel will join Sorey's party during the War episodes? It would be a more interesting way of making them join the party than in the game.
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>>147067735
I think it's more like the story is better by not sucking up to her.
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>>147067644
Sorey isn't stupid, he seems to understand sex, he's just not interested in it
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>>147067644
he's gonna get there, believe in him
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>>147067817
>Do you guys think Rose and Dezel will join Sorey's party during the War episodes?
I don't think she will join. At least not in this season. Maybe next season, but I think it would be better to keep her as a character that meets Sorey from time to time like Alisha.
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>>147067727
It's not Baba talking though, it's the scriptwriter. He specifically says m/f romance won't work for Sorey and loosely explains Alisha and Rose's dynamics with Sorey and why they didn't work for him. He then states romance was there but subdued. That only leaves one person.

It's just obvious deduction. Also see >>147065394
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>>147067801
Where else was that ever said? Source?
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>>147067869
even Sorey had to deal with awkward puberty boners at some point. if he hasn't already tapped the Meebo he'll get there eventually.
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>>147067854
sorey might be demisexual, why not? meaning he can get it on only when with someone who he loves and has close bond with
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>>147067924
Rose will probably join him because otherwise Dezel won't do anything. It will probably happen next season, though.
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>>147067953
It was the scriptwriter who said that Male/female relationships wouldn't work for Sorey.

Baba only called Mikleo Sorey's irreplaceable presence.
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>>147068096
Dezel doesn't really need to join Sorey at all. they could skip him and have Zaveid be the only wind sub-lord he ever has.
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>>147067747
Why is Sorey so naive when Mikleo seems not to be? They grew up together and had the same childhood so it's kind of weird to see Sorey be more gullible/naive than Mikleo.
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>>147068096
>Rose will probably join him because otherwise Dezel won't do anything
Dezel can still do something if Rose meets Sorey a few times next season. There's no need for her to join his party.
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>>147068061
Get your shitty tumblurina sexuality out of here
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>>147063463
This reminds me of early on when Baba said that the game would be alot about dragons and that's also the reason why there's a dragon in the name.

Never believe his lies.
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>>147068107
Ah, right, I think that anon was talking about the same thing though, he just said Baba instead of the scriptwriter. I forgot who it was who said that myself, I just knew it was official.
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>>147067735
Portrayal, no one is sucking up to her and praising her every action. They also seem to be capitalizing on her merchant side a bit more by making her a scammer jew.
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>>147067817
Unlike in the game, there's no real reason why she'd need or want to join him in the anime, he doesn't have arbitrary limitations on people in his party attacking shit.
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>>147042238
>mikleo
>not a cute girl
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>>147067735
It's portrayal, game Rose is just as stupid and just as much of a hypocrite. Anime Rose is only one that treated as such. The problem with Rose comes from her portrayal as a character.
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>>147068194
Mikleo has a more cynical personality by nature and might have received more 'humans are shit' type education than Sorey did since he was a seraphim.

Sorey's not hopelessly naive, he sees through Bartlow's shit on his own after all. but he's still an optimist at heart. he always hopes for and works towards the best outcome. he's also surrounded by a bunch of pessimists and cynics, so it makes him come across as naive compared to them.
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>>147068264
Maybe it was before he fucked everything up.
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>>147068497
I see, that makes sense. Thanks anon
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>>147066881

And then the same people complain about yurifags shipping...
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>>147068264

>dragons are super rare endbosses of the world!
>turns out dragons aren't actually that rare if you just start looking around

it was Dragon Age: Origins all over it!
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>>147063685
That dragon he's chasing is new, isn't it? As I recall the game has Eizen, the drake and Tiamat, but that's about it.

Obligatory https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qSoLwky5Gw .
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>>147068809

Fuck off muslim.
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>>147068669

Most people are straight because we'd be doomed as a species if we weren't. Thus the likehood of a guy and a girl being more than friends is significantly higher.
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Current trending rank on twitter
1st Alisha
6th RoseAli
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>>147068912

You are stupid. Gay fucking is just as common in nature as straight fucking. Almost all mammals do it.
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>>147068912
Not in a script written anime based off a game that most of us already know how ends.
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>>147068961
>RoseAli
These japanese implying Alisha isn't the alpha one?
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>>147068263
fuck off self-entitled anon
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>>147068884
there are some side quest dragons, i think. but there's also Maotelus. i've been wondering if the anime dragon is just Maotelus. he flew around and fucked shit up in Zestiria's bad ending, didn't he?
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>>147069072
But he can't go outside, since Heldalf has him trapped
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>>147068989

You're not wrong, but again, the majority of any given population is primarily straight. Because no babies means no more species. It's an evolution thing.
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>>147068912
Anon this is literally the 3rd adaptation of a game with a homo end, said homo end was one of the most positively received aspects. The creators have come out and said that Sorey doesn't have any romance with a female character and that it wouldn't work if they tried.

Believing that Sorey with a girl at this point is just delusional.
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>>147069034
alpha Alisha is a new thing and RoseAli has been a thing since the game came out, or at least the Alisha DLC. it's kind of easy to see Rose as a pervert when she does shit like pic related, so she ended up the top in the ship name.
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>>147069188
A lot of animals just tend to fuck everything. It doesn't mean they're gay or anything.
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>Marlind
>not a forest village in the anime
Feels weird.
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>>147069188
Not that anon, but it really isn't uncommon to find homosexuality in the animal kingdom.
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>>147069185
yeah, i know, it's just an idea. there's no real proof for it. i just like the idea better than a random dragon from nowhere.
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>>147069303
>second biggest city in the country
>it's barely bigger than a skyrim city
I hate this meme
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>>147069303
i kind of like it, the way they talked about Marlind being a cultural center never added up with how SMALL it was in the game. and the only real thing of cultural value was the super run down museum on the outskirts of town.
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>>147069185
In the bad ending he fucked shit up because you were able to kill Hedalf. The area where Maotelus resides needs Hedalf to say alive to keep him there.
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>>147069034
It's the same with Sorey/Mikleo. The one that is taller, more aggressive or 'masculine' is the top. Rose is alot more butch than Alisha and this episode just came out so it won't change the portrayal people have from the DLC.
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>>147069232
That's fucking lewd
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>>147069209

So if you don't hook up with a girl that means you're gay? Sorey and Mikleo have a strong relationship but why do they need to be fucking too?
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>>147069034
Not in the game anon.

>>147069630
Between Sorey and Mikleo, Sorey is thought of as more masculine, because he is. Mikleo for all intents and purposes acts like Sorey's wife, in fact you could literally turn him into a girl without altering his characterization. Which is why the Nips call Mikleo a woman because he's actually feminine.
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It's like Rose is eye-raping her.
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>Alisha and Rose BFFs now

Best change.
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>>147069630
that's funny because sorey isn't agressive or particulary "masculine" lawl (neither is mikleo though, I see the problem)
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>>147069868
it's canon that Mikleo brought Sorey snacks to eat because he'd get too caught up in reading books to remember to eat. Mikleo's the best wife.
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>>147066744
She's ready to force her country to suicide because muh peace. She's bluepilled as fuck.
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>>147069981
He didn't bring them though he made them
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>>147069774
>>147069774
No, but the creators saying that there is romance in the story, just not a heterosexual romance and that's it wouldn't work with Sorey, while also simultaneously calling Mikleo and Sorey soulmates makes the logical conlcusion that they're into each other.

Just a bit of fyi even the Nips (and not just the fujo) see their relationship as homosexual. It's really just westerners who say differently.
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>>147069981
More than just that Mikleo learned how to cook just so that he feed Sorey when he forgot to eat.
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>>147069953
He really isn't, but Mikleo is a lot smaller than him and looks more feminine so that's probably why. Mikleo also has the "support the MC" healer role and cooks for him as well.
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>>147069953
Both Sorey and Mikleo resemble more of a traditional yuri pair (chaste, minimal physical contact, fueled by emotion and words than actions) than a homo pair, while Rose/Alisha is a traditional yaoi pair (high tension, incredibly physical, rival banter)

So there's no real top for Sorey/Mikleo because they're both equally pure and are unlikely to initiate sexual contact unless it's after marriage. Whereas Alisha and Rose will go at it like rabbits in heat.
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>>147069982
She supports peace negotiation through arms race though, she is just focusing on defense instead of preemptive attacking to start a war neither side will profit from.
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>>147069774
because they have as you said "strong relationship", end up together, and sorey thinks mikleo is beautuful. that would be enough proof for most hetero ships, why would it be different for same sex ships?
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>>147070252
I am very ok with this
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>>147034760
>CGI
>better than anything

Nah this shit isn't even anime, fuck off >>>/v/
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>>147070154
>>147069953
Well Nips entire view of masculinity and femininity is very different from that of Westerners.
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>>147070154
Funny tho, His voice is more masculine and deeper than Sorey's
I really mean it....
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>>147069868
>in fact you could literally turn him into a girl without altering his characterization
You could equally do that with Sorey, what's your point?

Hilariously, Rose is probably the most masculine character.
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>>147070454
That's probably why there is still a minority that likes Mikleo topping even if he has feminine appeal.
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>>147070454
Well, most Nips do see Mikleo as feminine though.
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>>147070596
Considering how Nips don't ever call Sorey a female or ever comment on him being feminine I don't think so.

Also see>>147070454. To Nips Mikleo appears to be very feminine to the point where they actively say that the only reason why they think that he's a dude is his voice, however in the case of Sorey he's just at dude to them.

To Nips ironically they don't really consider Rose to be masculine just crass.
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>Tales threads are now just shipping and sexuality discussion

Zestiria murdered this fanbase hard.
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>you will never touch Lailah's legs
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>>147070728
Yes they do, they see Mikkleo as feminine but not Sorey.

>>147070618
It's just like P4 how Nips thought that Naoto was masculine but Westerners thought that she was feminine.
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>>147070828
Unfortunately, most threads in general are about that and waifufagging or "who would you fuck"
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>>147070828
>Tales thread
This is basically a Zestiria thread with some occasional Berseria.
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Do you think they will announce the next Tales in 2017?
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>>147069982
>She's ready to force her country to suicide because muh peace. She's bluepilled as fuck.
Rose pls, it's about time you stop eating Bartlow's bullshit.
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>>147070828
look at the bright side, atleast there is no endless spam of alisha vs rose comments
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>>147070942
They'll announce the 3rd game in the Zestiria saga starring Sorey and Velvet.
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>>147070845
>tfw attack won the lailahbowl
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>>147070981
i like this better. yurifags and yaoifags in perfect harmony.
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>>147070828
let me remind you we're on 4chan
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>>147070853
Yeah, I don't see Sorey as masculine but I don't see him as feminine either. He doesn't look feminine either. Mikleo on the other hand has some feminine personality traits and looks feminine as well.
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>>147071050
If only Lailah was more than just a throwaway line in Berseria.
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>>147071060
ufotable should just make every episode have some gay in it, and everything will be at peace
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>Alisha x Rose
Disgusting
Alisha x Sergei is superior
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>>147071102
>I'm a super oldfag I came here from tumblr when AoT was airing

You're everything wrong with everything. Do the world a favor and your life.
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>>147070828

People will always furiously discuss the homo unless it's confirmed 100% canon in the show/game/whatever.
Even plenty of hetero pairs in Tales come across very vague. Hell, if Tales of Destiny 2 didn't exist you could never tell if Rutee and Stahn got together.
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>>147070950
Hilariously enough, Rolance doesn't want a war, Rose should have done some research before believing Bartlow's bullshit.
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>>147071158
>watermark smack dab in the middle
I haven't been to Tokrin in like a month or two, but what the fuck are they doing?
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>>147071158
She was actually mentioned in the game? I always figured she was another reincarnation of Celica/Seres.
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>>147070828
It's because people still think that sorey is straight
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>>147070252
I think mikleo and sorey are actually pretty physical with each other, but yeah I agree in general
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>>147070828
Well these threads in general can be summed up by
>I hate Baba and Rose!
>I want to lick Edna the perfect goddess's loli feet!
>Alisha is cute!
>Mikleo best waifu and winner of Soreybowl
Nobody really talks about the anime other than to say 'it's better than the game atleast' and that's because shit barely happens.

>>147071130
He's quite gorgeous, but I think he has a boyish charm to him. His core personality isn't feminine, only his dynamic with Sorey.
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>>147071372
Maybe that's why, and is actually her
And why she's STILL PICKING emofags as sheperds
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>>147070828
Berseria will set things straight after its release, it easily has the manliest cast in the series and Velvet wouldn't work at all as a man
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It is so strange seeing princess being so commanding and not a rape victim.

Also, what is her strategy? Tell the lord to stop amassing forces? Tell him to not pillage?
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>>147071453
usually right after an episode airs there's a two to three hour window where the new episode is discussed, and then it devolves into what you said.
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>>147071240
i'm fine, thanks. i just don't see profound discussions here like ever, so i was surprised you're expecting something better than shitposting but whatevs
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So Slay is the Christ figure? Figures this airs on Sunday.
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>>147071644
>like ever
>but whatevs
Wow that was a pretty accurate shot there anon.
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>>147070108
Mikleo also cuts Sorey's hair which is also considered to be a really intimate act, as in, it is something you'd only trust a very special person with.
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>>147071453
>He's quite gorgeous, but I think he has a boyish charm to him. His core personality isn't feminine, only his dynamic with Sorey.
I disagree, Mikleo's core personality is that of the childhood friend love interest.
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>>147034760
>CG
>CGI
Yeah it's really better, cancer-kun.

nea /a/ makes me laugh
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Is this the Alicia we know? Automatic best girl category.
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>>147071436
Disregarding them taking out the tickle fight, they are moderately more physical in the anime.

In the game, it's pretty much just the tickle fight and a post battle skit where Sorey gets in Mikleo's face. So moderately chaste, especially considering Alisha and Rose roll on the ground with eachother for 'fight scene'.
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>>147071755
it's also implied that Sorey cut Mikleo's hair... at least once.
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>>147071545
>Also, what is her strategy? Tell the lord to stop amassing forces? Tell him to not pillage?
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>>147071832
No they've improved her drastically compared to the game. In the game, she was an incompetent pushover who was too easily dissuaded by others and got kidnapped constantly. In the anime it shows that people actually respect her and she gets shit done.
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>>147071545
Basically. It doesn't seem like she has much of an actual plan and, other than the stupid "lol let's put down our weapons on the battlefield that'll solve everything".
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>>147071545
Tell her army to stand down and fight rebellious elements, arrest Bartlow for treason?
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>>147072088
Baba what the hell are you doing here? I'm sure you should be looking for a job.
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>>147072134
Haha what are you talking about anon? I'm not Baba, but I wish I could be. He's such a great producer and they should let him help out with the anime!
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>>147071761
implying that's something particulaty feminine? to be childhood friend turn love interest?
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>>147072259
No I said that he has the characterization of one, which is why people find it so easy to see him as a girl.
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Just finished Besteria.
The revelation that Phi is Maotelusmakes me want to play Zestiria now.
How big is his role in Zestiria?
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>>147072194
Baba never lies.
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>>147072386
Final boss armatized with bara kitty
He's barely mentioned in Zestiria, only in skits
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>>147071761
It depends on what you mean by that. There's a male childhood friend archetype that looks over the genki and somewhat clumsy female in shojos, or there's the female childhood friend who is tsundere and follows along with the genki male protagonist because 'he can't take care of himself on his own'.

I can see Mikleo being both in a way.

>>147072386
He gets polluted by Malevolence, taken over by the final boss and then freed and purified for several centuries by Sorey. So nothing.
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>>147064744
I don't know how but Alishia is rocking that hat.
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>>147072386
Don't do that, Zestiria is half-assed as hell.
They kill Eizen in a really short side quest for fuck sake

But yeah, I finished Besteria yesterday too, so good
強くて弱い人間たちを
怖くて優しい人間たちを

I laughed, I cried, this is easily the best Tales I played
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>>147064744
Both games had such bittersweet credits. Berseria's almost made me cry.
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Off-topic, but I wonder if they will ever dare to touch Tempest again. They hinted at remake but I doubt they have enough people to work on two projects at the same time and I can't see them outsourcing it.
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>>147072454
Having read a lot of shoujo in the past (it was a phase) I don't think that Mikleo resembles them, he's really missing their aggressiveness. He's more like the female tsundere childhood friend.
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>>147072386
He gets raped by a lion and then sleeps with Sorey to heal.
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>>147072386
Not very big at all.
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>>147070315
So she is for cold war?
>>
This anime is way better than it deserves to be.
>>
>>147070845
Why did she lift him up by the hat?
>>
>>147072386
The game barely mentions him at all
Just watch the anime
They are making way more references to Berseria than the the Zestiria game ever did
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>>147072867
It's miles better than the game
But it's still pretty slow
The in between berseria advertisement episodes didn't really help much either as it just sort of interruppted Zesty's narritive
>>
>>147072039
I would follow her into battle.
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>>147072867
Doesn't that just prove that they got fucked over by Baba?
>>
>>147072100
Oh good point. After seeing the later half of the episode, I don't care. Now I see why man would follow La Pucelle.
>>
it should just have been a Berseria anime, it has a much more involved narrative
>>
>>147072643
Or touch Eternia again. I loved it. But it looks like everyone else did not.
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>>147072867
This anime is a big fuck you to Baba, It deserves better
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>>147073039
>ARTORIIUUUUUUUUSSSSSS
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>>147072856
When both countries have mass destruction weapons maybe. She was shown so far pro-army/knights, but maybe when countries have the cease fire she would then defend a progressive mutual disarmament.
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>>147073068
Eternia is pretty loved and considered as one of the prime Tales in Japan
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>>147073090
I like her already.
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>>147072597
My favourite moment of the game is probably Velvet's mind broken sequence and the Kuyashiiiiiii scene.
Rina Satou's delivery of lines is so powerful, I highly doubt that the dubs will be able to top it.
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>>147073090
Hyland has a WMD, it's called Sorey.
>>
>>147072386
He is abused by a cat because the previous Shepard had to corrupt him with his malevolence https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap2laOBP0lw
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>>147073141
>dubs
>ever topping
>>
>>147072597
>強くて弱い人間たちを
>怖くて優しい人間たちを
It's such a lovely development that Maotelus learned his way of life from the lord of calamity herself. An angel raised by a devil.

It's a shame Zestiria isn't a decent sequel to such a good story.
>>
>>147073081
> Tales of Boobseria
>>
>>147072867
You say that as if takes much to be better than the game.
>>
>>147073248
Never played the game so I wouldn't know.

I just didn't expect a game adaptation to be this enjoyable.
>>
>>147073293
>Never played the game so I wouldn't know.
I want secondaries to leave
>>
Is what they're doing with Alisha all Ufotable original? Or is this what she was supposed to be before Baba forced her away?
>>
>>147073353
Probably what she was supposed to be.
>>
>>147073353
>>147073378
I think it's original. The whole bit about Echo Artes makes me think she was supposed to stay with the party in early drafts.

The way the anime has it, she's never in the party at all.
>>
>>147073221
I think the original idea was to oppose the thematic of both Zestiria and Berseria
Berseria is all about indivualism, you have to govern your own ship being the motto of the team.
Every characters have their own personal goal and there is no saving the world for them, it's all about doing what they want to do, this thematic is remarkably developed in the game culminating with Velvet's last speech about birds.

Zestiria is all about the collective, saving the whole even if that mean sacrificing the individual. In the second half the cast end up killing a bunch of people because this is what they think needed to happen to save even more people, it culminates to Sorey and Mikleo directly killing their own guardian and Sorey sacrifice.

Too bad Zestiria is half assed so this thematic just ends up feeling like a Rose hijack more than anything
>>
>>147071372
Yeah, in one of the mid-quest dialogues in the town of Islet. She's probably not a reincarnation because Velvet ate the shit out of Ceres and absorbed her (which is actually not on Berseria's list as the worst way a seirei could go).
>>
Speaking of Maotelus, how is it that he became a dragon yet was able to be purified by Sorey even though the game repeats over and over that dragons can't be saved? Or did I miss something? Was anything more about this revealed in Berseria?

Actually is there a translated playthrough/LP of Berseria anywhere? I've already spoiled myself a bit so might as well just get the whole story while I'm at it.
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>>147073308
>wanting people to play Zestiria
Baba please go.
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>>147073557
>Yeah, in one of the mid-quest dialogues in the town of Islet
Wow I must have missed that
>>
>>147073353
The fuck would we know? We're not Ufotable. But since they've been taking so many creative liberties, I'm gonna assume this is their own interpretation of Zestiria.
>>
>>147073597

Filthy gaijin get the game next year, probably around this time.
>>
>>147073448
Don't know, seems more like the idea behind Xillia, having two stories that are separate yet connected with the player being able to switch or choose which story they want to follow. But it's only through both stories that you get the full picture. However, because the stories are connected they cross-over. We don't know, again because the story was re-written and Alisha's part removed.

>>147073494
The real question is, whether that was the intended theme to begin with or did Baba just force it on them.
>>
>>147073221
Isn't Zestiria's anime the sequel, but not the game?
>>
>>147073697
>The real question is, whether that was the intended theme to begin with or did Baba just force it on them.

It's possible that the theme in Berseria was more of an answer to Zestiria shitfest yeah
I'd say it was a necessary evil now since I really, really liked Berseria
>>
>>147073494
>Velvet's speech about birds and freedom
Velvet is a true patriotic american hero.
>>
>>147073597
>Speaking of Maotelus, how is it that he became a dragon
Nah, he has the form of a "dragon" as a seraph after he became Maotelus. He never got corrupted enough to become a dragon like Aizen.
>>
>>147073779
>>147073779
Who knows, a lot of things in Berseria actually weren't retcons but rather were just things mentioned in the Zestiria guidebook but weren't allowed to be explored in the game.
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>>147072635
That was the best end that Velvet could have hoped for and she got to live the life she wanted with her brother even if it was a dream.
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>>147072635
I just noticed Velvet still has her ahoge in the credit pics. That's such a nice detail.
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>>147074019
But she's sleeping for thousands of years. Does she dream the same thing over and over again?
>>
>>147074137
Time doesn't have to flow at the same speed in a dream than in real life.
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>>147073597
Berseria has the exact same stance on dragons as Zestiria does, they can't be purified and it's better to put them out of their misery.

As far as Maotelus, the night scenes in Lastonbell before the final battle emphasize that Sorey's plan to go to sleep is a huge crapshoot, and that's before (IIRC) you find out that Maotelus is a dragon. Even at that point all Sorey can really do is continue his original plan which is to purify Maotelus' true vessel, the land.
>>
>>147072635
Velvet is best girl and deserves a second game.
>>
I like Elenoa
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>>147074517
>Velvet
That's not how you spell Magilou.
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>>147074630
She's cute but she's overshadowed by Velvet or Magilou.
>>
>>147074663
Magilou is dead whereas Velvet is fine and dandy and you just need to wake her up and convince her you're a little brother in need of protection and she'll help you.
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>>147074517
with Zestiria anime redeeming the shitshow that was the game maybe we'll get a third game with Sorey, Mikleo, Velvet and Laphi after all.
>>
>>147072643
Doubt it. I heard Innocence R and Hearts R didn't have good sales. Blame Vita for being crap system.
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>>147073557
All the people that Velvet ate were released in the end of the game, that means also Ceres
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>>147073597
There's two "translations" on YouTube, one only covers the story and the other is a full LP but is only partially translated (as in the most important parts). The latter is faster and uses unofficial/transliterated terms/names (like kanonushi instead of Innominat, Aizen instead of Eizen) but has ugly subs holy hell while the other is slower but, for the most part, using the localization names.
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>>147074935
Innocence and Hearts were bad on sales because they had only japanese release, Also when they localized Hearts, it became a horrible buggy mess
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>>147075061
But they weren't? Only the four lords were reincarnated from the four exorcists she ate.
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>>147075061
Lailah already exists during Velvet's story, that's why she can't be a reincarnation of Seres unless there's some Kingdom Hearts shit going on
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>>147075334
>Lailah already exists during Velvet's story
Wait, what?
Where?
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>>147075402
Anon, see >>147073557
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