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Not so fast, ningen.
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>>147033538
Zamasu-kun dindu nothin, he just needed mo balls for mo ningen genocide
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first post for Toyotaro.
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>Bulma chews Goku and co out for forgetting to bring Senzu. Goku left them in the bathroom!
Fucking Toei
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>>147033608
ningenocide?
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>>147033653
That's the spirit.
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No episode next week because Kochikame TV special.
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any new Gowasu memes?
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>>147033689
>Gowasu
F
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>Supreme Kai: "We shouldn't kill Zamasu because he hasn't actually done anything bad yet"
reminder that he's right
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>>147033689

Well he didn't even realize Zamasu was gone till he needed more tea.
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Gowasu had that coming. You can't just ask for tea every 5 minutes and never drink it.
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>>147033644
>he thinks this won't happen in the manga as well
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>gowasu dies of tea poison
>whis rewinds 3 minutes and intervenes
>"stop right there scumbag, that tea is poisonous"
>gowasu: "ZAMASU, is this true?"
>zamasu: "of course not, and to prove it I'll drink it myself"
>zamasu drinks tea and is unaffected due to newfound immortality
>gowasu: "I told you zamasu is a good person and would never do such an awful thing. now leave, you have insulted us"
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>>147033689
Not noticing Zamasu was gone until tea time
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Requesting webm's from last weeks fight scenes. They were sweet!
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>Dubs and you're not a filthy ningen.
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GOTENFAGS BTFO
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>>147033538
IN THIS EPISODE

Debating the origin of Goku Black Whis suggests that it could be a copy created by Zamasu.
Considering that this is the big riddle of the arc that means he ISNT one. So all things point to him being something else, but if not a copy or an actual Goku that leaves only being an actual character in the table.
One that is also named Goku and was obsessed with the legend of Goku.

Who's ready for the return of the champ?!
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>>147033689
>>147033709
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>yfw the drink isn't poison and actually transforms Gowasu into Black
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>>147033689
pretty shit week for memes, Gowasu only shows up for like a couple of minutes and there's not even any Rose shots.

There's a couple of new Zamasu reaction faces and some Pedo Trunks though.
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Anyone got spoilers for the next few episodes?
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Why not just wish for all the humans to not exist
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>>147033747
Supreme Kai joining the blacked team when?
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>>147033767
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>>147033761
Zamasu hasnt wished for immortality yet retard
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>>147033816
we don't know what he wished for yet double retard
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>>147033786
Because then every god in the multiverse would find Zamasu, splatter him across space and time, and then just make new ningen.
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>>147033786
And lose all the fun in killing them personally?
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Reminder that Toei's Goku is a flandarized version of the original and the DBS manga is superior to the anime.
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>>147033767
episode didnt even show who Black is, what are you on about

Thats only being aired in 3 weeks time
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>>147033794
>they can't kill him because that would kill beerus
that'd be interesting to watch
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>>147033786
cause "villains" can't be allowed to win that or wish limits
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>>147033769
>draw me like one of your french girls
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>>147033766
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>>147033833
He didnt wish for anything because the Super DBs are inactive triple retard
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>>147033761
pretty sure he doesn't have immortality yet and that's why the spoilers say that he dies to Beerus.
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>>147033761
Zamasu is not immortal yet. He needs to kill Gowasu and steal his Time Ring to jump to one year in the future so he can use the Super dragon balls. That's the whole point of his assassination attempt.
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>>147033816
>>147033833
We don't even know that he's actually assembled the balls yet.
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>>147033776
>the poison actually turns gowasu into a ditsy bimbo
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>>147033833
No dumbass, he literally hasn't wished for anything yet.
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>Future Trunks STILL isn't even aware Goten exists
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>>147033897
DELET THIS
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>>147033769
>Damn I need (another) drink
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>>147033677

Not only a simple Kochikame special... IT'S THE SERIES' FUCKIN FINALE. KOCHIKAME IS FINALLY KILL AFTER 40 YEARS
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>>147033786

>Wish for humans to not exist
>Other gods come and slap your shit
>Make more humans afterwards
>In the end all that happened was the main cast died and those in charge of souls have a ridiculous amount of paperwork ahead of them
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>>147033842
Jesus, why is Manga Goku so retarded?
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>>147033935
YFW Whis removes the halo and his hair comes down as he assumes his unrestrained form and reveals himself as the villain.
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>>147033856
Except it literally said Black is a copy of Goku created by the Super Dragon Balls.
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>>147033897
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>>147033998
>and his hair comes down
I can't visualize this.
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>>147033876
show me where anything says the super dragonballs even have a waiting period you quadruple retard
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>>147034005
Isn't that just a theory on Whis' part
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>>147033842
That ":O" face he makes all the time fucking pisses me off, makes him look like a retard.
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>>147034021
The episode that just aired.
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>>147034005
no that's Whis' hypothesis, he specifically states the mystery is deep because we don't know for sure and that Black's Ki is similar to Zamasu which is unexplained in his theory.
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>>147034058
I didn't realize you could speak french you fucking fartsucker
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>>147034021
>Zuno explains that the Super DBs are inactive right now. They'll revive in a cockroach's lifespan...aka a year.
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>>147033765
gibbe webums!
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>>147033994
all gokus are retarded
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>>147033747
>I know he's gonna do something evil but he hasn't done it yet so we shouldn't kill him
?
what kind of logic is that?
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>>147034021
Zuno literally told Zamasu an hour ago. That's why he can't make the wishes right away.
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>>147034040
A kami theory, thnaks for watching!
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>>147034040
Yes, but I doubt that would turn out wrong given how much time was spent explaining how it worked.
And it does make sense with everything so far.
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>>147034019
Like this pretty much
I literally just realized that Whis design ( and vados) is them breaking through a halo as if ascending above mortality
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>kaioshin telling not to kill zamasu
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>>147034005
that's Whis' theory retard. Which means it probably won't come true.
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>>147034123
Dragon Ball Theory: WHIS is a GODTUBER?????
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>>147034106
We can save Zamasu
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>>147034126
are you telling me the characters in a shonen anime have correctly guessed the villain's entire backstory and motives before their final confrontation

are you new to this or what
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>>147034005
Thats literally whis discussing what it could be, which means it will be ANYTHING but that.
You just fucked yourself in a rush to try to own weebs on a weeb board, retard.
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What if they kill Zamasu and Gowasu, after seeing his student die, grows to hate ningens and causes the events that they were trying to stop?
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>>147034156
that faggot needs to die
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>>147034106
there's an off chance that something happens to make him not do those things
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>>147033994
Asking Beerus and Whis to come along in case they get rekted is retarded? Toeifag please.
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>>147034151
>it's another "It's all Kaioshin's fault" arc
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>>147034021
Jesus christ, go watch the episode before whining online you idiot
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>>147033998
>>147034019
>>147034135

I think he'd look fucking gorgeous with his hair down. If he wasn't best girl before...
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>>147034216
>he's working with Zamasu
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>>147034220
sorry I don't speak chinese weeblord
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>>147034005

Isn't there an entire episode coming up that's going to reveal Black's identity?

Why would they ruin it by revealing it now?
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>>147034126
Did you fall on your head as a kid?
What fucking tv show would announce the big mistery of the season several episodes in advance with characters shooting the breeze?
Are you that stupid?
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>>147034245
>Kaioshin is Black
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>>147034184
he can't be a faggot if he doesn't care about filthy ningen sex
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>>147033644
They made Goku way too fucking stupid in this series.
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>>147034182
shit
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What would it be called?
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>>147034245
>local kai ruin everything again
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>>147034282
>But Black can fight
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>>147034282
See you in the future
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>>147034305
black zamasu or zamasu black
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>>147034313
stop bullying kaioshin!
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>>147034333
remember when this guy wasn't a pussy?
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>>147034359
>He doesn't even have a name
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>>147034305
Blackasu
Zalack
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>Super DB's are inactive
>Zamasu hypothetically using time ring to skip ahead in order to wish for Black + Immortality

Fuark that actually makes sense, bravo Toei
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>>147034359
NO!!!
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>>147034321
Supreme Kai can just uh

uh

stand there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UFVYlhczt4
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>>147034377
The ultimate ningen remover
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>>147034305

Ole' Yeller's dangly bits.
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>>147034365
no
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>>147034267
the whole thing about it being goten body was based on how they kept Goten as a secret from trunks while being on the intro with future Mai and present mai.
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>>147034365
Remember when he had Piccolo shitting his pants and even managed to completely nullify SSJ2 Gohan?
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>Black was a great standalone villain
>He's just a pawn
>He was created with a wish, literally no background
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>>147034365
so never
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>>147034393
It still requires Zamasu to assemble them singlehandedly.
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>>147034365
I do kinda want him to be playable in the games again
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>>147034305
Burraku + Zamasu = Burasu
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>>147034394
STOP!
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>>147034400
>that ost
Disgusting.
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>>147034442
You're an idiot.
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>>147034442
That's just what Whis thinks, we don't know anything yet.
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>>147034442
Retard.
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>>147034442
No he wasn't you fucking retard. Whis had a theory and it was immediately proven wrong in the same episode

Why are DB fans such retards? Do you faggots every pay attention to the actual episode and dialogue?
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>>147034456
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>>147033753
>he thinks this won't happen in the manga as well
Sorry but in the Manga, Goku only has one. So it won't.
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>>147034375
Its Shin.

He's a Kaioshin of the race of Kais, named Shin.

King Kai however doesnt have a name, hes a King of the race of Kais (theres four of them, with grand kai above them)
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>>147034447
That part is easy if he makes Zuno tell him where they are. As he intended to do before learning they are inactive.
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>>147034478
I know, I just grabbed the first video
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>Gohan and Goten both useless

You can tell Goku gave up on hoping his kids would amount to anything
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>>147034447
I think he asked Zuno where each one was so he knows their locations.
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>>147034441
Technically that was God Ki.

Which just raises more questions, if the Kais can use spells and god crap why didnt they taught some of that shit to the Kamis.
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>>147033786
why not wish to be in charge of Zeno-chan so you can kill all the ningen and then not get overruled in the multiversal bureaucracy
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>>147034508
So Goku's retarded in the manga not to ask for more before going into the future?

Gotcha.
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>>147034351
Fusion, not tag team
>>147034377
hmm....maybe try one more
>>147034456
Blasu in English dub....nah not working
>>147034434
:^) Yasss
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>>147034442
Congrats you cant understand a tv show for nine year olds.
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>>147034442
that was just whis's theory
we know the titles of the upcoming episodes and there's an entire episode dedicated to revealing black's true identity, we wouldn't need that episode if whis was right
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>>147034547
Nice projecting anon.

Gohan "fans" continue to be outraged at how he lives happily with his beautiful wife and child, in a big house, pursuing his dream job.
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Goku will Potara fuse with Black to neutralize him

Vegeta will lose

Gohan will avenge his father and beat Zamasu
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Why is Vegeta even a part of the story anymore? He's not a good character, he's not particularly interesting, his arc and character development are over. He should have just stayed dead after killing himself against Buu or the Fusion or whatever.
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>revealing zamasu dies in an episode synopsis
for what purpose?
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>>147034646
pls stop gohanfag
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>>147034599
>fusion, not tag team
I know. I just think Zamasu Black is what the fusion will be called.
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>>147034616

Love how you constantly re-post this shit without mentioning Goten
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>>147034664
Because either he won't die or Future Zamasu will be relevant.
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this is my favorite black goku moment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08mr8bkN_Nk
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>>147034599
>Blasu in English dub
Vegito = Vegeta + Kakarotto, so that excuse doesn't really fly. Nor would they give a fuck about the English dub whilst making it anyway.
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>>147034664
(he doesn't)
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>>147033879
>Zamasu is not immortal yet. He needs to kill Gowasu and steal his Time Ring to jump to one year in the future so he can use the Super dragon balls. That's the whole point of his assassination attempt.

Why can't this little shit just wait for a fucking year to grab immortality, then wait another year to get Goku Black?
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>>147034612
b-b-but I was told gotenfags were REKT and I wanted to see some tears FUCK YOU
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>>147034591
Who says there is more? That shit takes time to grow. Nice try retarded Toeifag.
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>>147034565
Maybe the Kamis are too low on the hierarchy.

Though the previous Earth God did do some weird magical shit without any explanation (well, besides saying it was a god's doing) like re-creating the moon, and taking away Goku's body and making it so he could keep it in the other world.
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>>147034599
no, it would be Bareass. i mean it still doesn't work.
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>>147034656

He should have stayed dead after he got killed by Freeza on Namek.
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>>147034682
Who?
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>>147034709
Whis theorizes that Zamasu wished for a copy of Goku, but there's no evidence. It seems like it's wrong or too obvious to just spell out.
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>>147034700
he wants to kill ningens immediately
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>>147034591
Reaching hard to try to justify Toei logic
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>>147034700
The moment he starts changing time in a single timeline he'll have the space popo on his ass.

Beerus going to kill him for traveling through time.
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>>147034692
alright, got me there
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>>147034739
Yeah, but then there's no Future Trunks.
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>>147034656
Because he is the most popular character in the franchise after Goku.
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>>147034739
but then we wouldn't have gotten the only useful half-breed
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>>147034732
Wonder if this means that Piccolo can process God's Ki.

He was the only one able to tell that kaioshin was powerful .
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>>147034471
never
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>>147034802
That's Gohan.
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>>147034302
Read the manga it's better.
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>>147034792
calling it now, Goku will beat Present Zamasu again and then offers to spare him because he has potential. Then Beerus swoops in with the kill.
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>>147034852
DELET THIS! NOW!
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>>147034664
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>>147034305
super saiyan white
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>>147034854
>gohanfags actually believe this
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>>147034591
Why you still waste your time arguing with the delusional mangafags?
Hide their shitposting and move on.
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>>147034764
What does the text say?
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>>147034875
>then Zamasu brainwashes Goku and takes him with him, in order to make him Black

>Goku black is Brainwashed present Goku
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>>147034439

I'm not saying it's Goten anything's possible though, I'm just saying it'd make more sense for Whis to be wrong.
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>>147034802
That strikes me as being odd. I wonder why.
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>>147034856
no, the anime is better. it has colours, animation, and music. it also updates 4 times as fast and covers things in much more depth.

does that trigger you, mangafag?

>NUUU MUH TORIYAMA
>GOKU ISN'T STUPID REEEEE
no one cares
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>Years in space are measured by the lifespans of cockroaches

Uh, ok.
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>>147034960
they both have their pros and cons, why are toeishills so autistically triggered over the fact that the manga does some things better?
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>>147034903
no!!
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>>147034960
>and covers things in much more depth.
No it doesn't, don't fucking lie. The main thing the manga has over the anime is that it has more detail even though it's slower and shorter

And I say this as a fan of both
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>>147035007
>Beerus almost died
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>>147034852
Delete this.
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>>147035017
>>147035006
>you're allowed to be an elitist for the manga but not for the anime
why don't you choke on my dick, I'm just representing the opposite extreme to help you understand why you're a retard
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Will DB ever get this unpredictable again?
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hey friends

hows the WT going for you?
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>>147034960
>animation,
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>>147035061
What dick? Judging by the way you post you clearly don't have one.
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>>147035017
Its ridiculous how people keep saying the manga is superior when it doesnt even show the conclusions of any of the setups it does.

It literally goes "yaddayadda freeza dies" and "yaddayadda they had their wish"
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whats he watching now /a/?
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>>147035076
>hows the WT going for you?

Pretty good anon. Been swooping with STR Broly and Majin Vegeta. Rank 900
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>>147035085
yeah, I remember that from six months ago, now do you wanna see some webums from the new arc :^)
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>>147035006
It's the other way around. Most people will criticize the anime. If you think the anime does something better than the manga, mangafags will jump on you.
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>>147035061
>"I was only pretending to be retarded xD"
I hope your (you)s managed to settle your autism down.
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Why us peoplr complaining about goku being retarded

I mean come on he is grandpa now , of course he is going back to acting more like he did when he was a kid

The older you are the less you give a fuck about everything
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>>147035085
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>>147035114
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>>147035076
I've got 18 wins.

I wanted to do the 80 but I can't be arsed doing it without a Mageta/Broly of my own. Plus I get bored of it after like 3 consecutive games.
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Why didn't Zamasu just wish that all ningens would die?
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>>147035116
I pulled Majin Vegeta 2 days before the Dokkan event left I was so upset. There's always next time I guess.
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STOP watching the anime. It's literally a waste of your time, just wait for the next manga chapter, it'll be out really soon.

WAIT. Do NOT watch the trash that is toei's fanfiction. If you watch that garbage you deserve to be shot.
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>>147035114
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>>147035176
Then beerus appears and fucks him up the ass before wishing all the humans back to life. He needs a realm without a destruction God so he can do whatever he wants.
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>>147033978
>>147033786
Why wouldnt they just do that anyway? Hes still planning on wiping out everyone.
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>>147034960
>Anime
>it also updates 4 times as fast and covers things in much more depth.
Top kek did the anime explain this? or that fact that Future Beerus is dead and that's the reason why Black and Zamasu are able to come and go as they please?
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>>147035176
he'd get in trouble
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>>147035104
That's a legit lie. The only time they did that was when they skipped RoF, and they did that because they told you to watch the movie

We saw everything important in the Tournament arc. The anime showed the same thing the manga did, except the anime spent half an episode showing a poorly animated Dragon appear.
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>>147035248
>>147035226
He's in trouble NOW.
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>>147035149
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>>147035176
Because Zamasu secretly wants to fuck a human.
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>>147035215
Yeah, wait for the manga which will probably stop in the middle of Goku and Trunks vs Zamasu and Black before having to wait another month by which everything will already be revealed.

Fuck off retard
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>>147035007
ENOUGH!
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>>147035215
canon wise how was Freeza defeated anon? :^)
How did Goku, canon wise, get to Blue?
What was the wish that Goku got from the super balls?
What was eighteen doing during the invasion?
What are Piccolo skills canon wise? :^)
What happened to gohan during the freeza fight?
Tell us anon, tell us.
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>>147035235
prove that explanation is canon

and yes the anime explained that future beerus is dead. Trunks mentioned that the future kaioshin was dead and later it was stated that that meant beerus was dead too
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>>147035215
>next chapter at best will cover Goku vs Black and Goku vs Zamasu
>Wait 2 more months until the manga reaches the point we're at now
>At which point the anime has probably finished the arc and is probably starting a new one

Yeah, "no". You can just watch both like a normal fucking human being.
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>>147035290
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>>147035228

If you make yourself immortal and get a bullshit strong buddy to help you when the other gods come around to see what's up you can deal with them too.

I'm not sure if he knows about Zen-chan.
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Like, I'm so sick of you autistic jackasses who bitch whenever someone mentions the manga.

Shut the fuck up, they're both the same medium in the same series, just enjoy both. It's stupid as fuck to be a fanboy of both fucking retards
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>>147035076
Can't be fucked with it. Done it about 5 times and still not in the top 100k. Last time I was playing non-stop and only just broke that tier, and it wasn't really worth it.
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>>147035228
He is altering history in secret. If the god's know that Zamasu is behind the violence, they would fix it because he is one of them. If they think it happened because of a natural circumstance, they wouldn't interfere.
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>>147035257
The manga didnt even had the wish.
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>>147035176
The asshole gods would create them again
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>>147035355
Zen-Chan is the company's CEO, of course he knows of him.
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>>147035320
>Trunks mentioned that the future kaioshin was dead and later it was stated that that meant beerus was dead too
This was never stated in the anime you fucking liar. In the anime, Whis just casually told Goku when Trunks wasn't even around. Trunks mentioned nothing about Kaioshin's death
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>>147035345
jeez anon, fifty three episodes old? you're digging a little deep there :^)

why don't you post some webms from the past dozen episodes?
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>>147035320
>prove that explanation is canon


Anime

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/05/09/future-trunks-arc-announced-dragon-ball-super/

>I write an outline of the entire plot, then the script writers break it up into episodes, expanding on things, changing things around, or adding in new bits as need be.

>Even I haven’t checked the final script yet.
>Let’s enjoy this together (laughs)!!

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-history-book-akira-toriyama-introduction/

>I had put Dragon Ball behind me, but seeing how much that live-action film ticked me off, and how I revised that script for the anime movie and complained about the quality of the TV anime, I suppose somewhere along the line it’s become a series I like too much to ever leave alone.

Manga

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-web-version/

>Speaking of the manga, I want to ask you two about how you put the manga together. I hear Toriyama-sensei checks the storyboards for each chapter.
>Toriyama: That’s right.

>Back when Toriyama-sensei was drawing the manga, the animators would use his manga panels as reference, imitating the composition and things like that. And now it seems that the animators are likewise using Toyotaro-sensei‘s manga as reference.
>Toriyama: Oh, that’s good! That should keep them on track!

>yes the anime explained that future beerus is dead.
Wrong Future Trunks didn't say the Kaioshin was dead in the anime.
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>>147035076
>>147035116
>>147035173
>>147035368

any of you guys know the best map to farm incredible gems?
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>>147035384
yeah it did, although very briefly.
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Can the super dragon balls wish away Zeno?
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>>147035390
Use the time ring and wish them dead again.
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>>147035076
30 wins beerus tier

I could continue since i have majin vegeta and good linkers but this time i just want a rank good enough to get 2 elder kais and max my str beerus

I wish they could make a dual dokkan event so we get ssj3 vegeta and beerus dokkan at the same time
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>>147035446
Deepening Destiny on HARD. Not Z-Hard.
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>>147035446
Not really done that but the story was that a certain map had a random chance of Pilaf appearing on ZHard and if you beat him he dropped 10 in one go.
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>>147035345
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>>147035303
Theyll just cut out everything that would show the future and just show goku arriving there, zamasu showing being immortal then they go like "yadda yadda and then they retreated"
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>>147035320
>and yes the anime explained that future beerus is dead
Nope, the anime didn't explain it. Not yet, at least.
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>>147035417
trunks said kaioshin died in his initial telling of when he defeated dabura and babadi. I know he did because I knew about it and I didn't read the manga or lurk these threads
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le sue mary plz
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>>147035123
Because animefags are ADHD children who get autism attacks when they don't see flashing lights for more than 20 seconds on their screen so they need to be bullied at every opportunity
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>>147035076
Im sick of Dokkan Battle. I just want to sell my account.
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>>147035437
Anon, which one's more popular?

Which one airs each week?

Which one is ahead in the story?

Which one does everyone debate here on /a/ and other forums the majority of the time?

Which one, objectively, has more scenes and information?

Oh, that's right. The anime. Now shut the fuck up. Nobody gives a shit about your monthly manga, now leave retard.
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>>147035509

Gimme that account.
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>>147035500
No he didn't you retard. He just said kaoshin helped him. Only the manga added in the line that he died

Stop bullshitting.
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>>147035535
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>147035537
Ill give it to you for 50 bucks.
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>>147035499
pretty sure they did, it was after the manga which was why it was controversial for the manga to release information before the anime.
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>>147035571
Gimme it, anon. That Golden Freeza makes it worth it.
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>>147035509
Where are Majin Vegeta's pupils?
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>>147035556
nice inbetween frame, I wouldn't expect a retarded manga fanboy to know how animation works
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>>147035509
why does that agility perfect cell have 4 gold stars
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>>147035589
Really?
Ill seriously sell it for $50 as long as you can guarantee some way to make the transaction smooth.
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>>147035584
Nope, it's a manga only line you dumb fuck.
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>>147035500
you're a lying dumb fuck my dude.
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>>147035623

Paypal is as smooth as we can get.
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>In Dragon Ball Fusions FemScouter Goku and FemGeta can't fuse
Aww
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>>147035556
>god fighting ningen scum at incredible hihg speed
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>>147035535
>popular=better quality
>ahead=means more canon
Top kek
The original creator Akira Toriyama is more involved with manga making it more canon. Deal with it.
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>>147035630
I'm not "lying", if anything I'm not remembering correctly you triggered fuck. I'm not sitting here thinking "hehe, this will show those silly comic readers, I'm gonna make shit up off the top of my head and no one will know"
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>>147035643
Yeah, but the buyer would have to give me the money first. Who would trust me enough to do that?
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>>147035611
>nice inbetween frame,
HAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAH rewatch the fight.

>Anime SS2
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>>147035680
you straight up lied, deal with it ya cuck.
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>>147035584
The anime only stated that Kaioshin and Beerus are a set. Trunks didn't say anything about Kaioshin dying in the future.
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>>147035715
okay anon you got me, I almost got away with it. dang
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>Animefags have to lie to defend the anime
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>>147035707
I'm sure there's good anons out there.
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>>147035628
dude i'm not the same guy you've been arguing with all thread but what i'm saying is that yes that line was manga only initially but i'm pretty sure there was a scene in a later episode when Beerus and Whis explain the same Kaioshin thing.
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>>147035735
maybe anon is just smart (but still stupid) enough to have come to that death conclusion on his own and mistakenly thought trunks said it. it's a shame we can't go back and watch the episodes apparently.
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>>147035457

Unknown.

Depends on if Zarama (creator of the Super Dragon Balls) is stronger than Zeno.
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>>147035709
>Manga SS2
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Zamasu es lindo! LINDO!
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>>147035772
No there wasn't. They only explained the Kaioshin rule, they never mentioned anything about their status in the future. That's manga only
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>>147035766
>I'm sure there's good anons out there.
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>>147035805
spic subs when?
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So any videos of extreme butoden with cell mode?
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>>147035805
ZAMASU IS NOT FOR SEXUAL
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>>147035887
ZAMASU IS FOR NINGEN COCK
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>>147035921
NO
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>>147035822
okay thanks, I must have put two and two together because I remember them mentioning a similar fact to the manga.
Can anyone recommend me which episode they had this conversation? I'm skimming through episode 55ish atm.
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>>147035946
Yes.
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>>147035921
all on board of the beerus rape train
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>>147035981
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>>147035877
30 bings more, 20 tops
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>>147035887
>>147035921
>>147035946
>>147036001
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>>147035822
>>147035949
Still looking for the episode where they explain the Kaioshin rule in the manga so i can compare the two, anyone have a guess what episode it was?
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>>147035805
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>>147035982
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y adonde esta Gohan?
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>>147036070
anime*
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>>147036070
It's the episode where Goku meets Zeno
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>>147035299
wants to be fucked by a human you mean
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>>147036084
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>>147036174
Yes.
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>>147036190
do you think Vados' dick is bigger than Whis'?
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Why is Hit's power so inconsistent in the manga?

First he's equal to a Super Saiyan Goku.

Then he somehow manages to equal Super Saiyan God Goku's power (who's far stronger than SS3 Goku, who's 8x stronger than SS Goku). WHEN HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN KNOCKED OUT WITH THE FIRST PUNCH HE GOT BECAUSE THE DIFFERENCE IS ENORMOUS

Then when he should be knocked out by a finger flick from SSB Goku, he manages to hold on the fight.

Jesus, Super's powerscalling is truly shit no matter if it's the anime or the manga.
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>>147036084
Beerus is the only good husbando in the Dragonball series, please dont ruin him.
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>>147036190
>Be assistant of a God
>Still owns Ningen carnal desires
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>>147036190
She's got a nice staff
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>>147036070

The reveal about the connection between the God of Destruction and the Kaioshins felt more in the manga since it was used to explain why Black has gone about his business uncontested, in the anime that piece of information was just randomly put out there.
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>the Supreme Faggot is now forced to be the third wheel in the "God group" because of his link to Beerus
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>>147036148
that's ep 55, i'm browsing it now and I can't find the convo, this isn't even a big deal in the grand scheme of things but it's bothering me that i can't find it.
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>>147036346
His power isn't inconsistent, you're literally retarded

He's beating SSJ Goku, then he gets overpowered by SSG. So he powers up to max, and SSB breaks his time slip, and he barely dodges a Kamehameha

How is that inconsistent? DB fans are the dumbest fans to exist.
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>>147036390
What would she look like with her hair down?
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>>147036354
>Not wanting to taste Beerus's God Cock.

Are you not a faggot?
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>>147036393
There's no reason to think the Gods would give a shit about Black's actions based on their track record.
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>>147036346
>can't understand what's going on on a literal saturday morning show
>the author is obviously a hack!
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>>147036346
>First he's equal to a Super Saiyan Goku.
Wrong. Reaching quite hard Toeifag.
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>>147034303
GOWASU PLS HELP
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>>147036369
>implying Zamasu doesn't have the same feelings
>implying Zamasu doesn't want to be a human's cum dumpster
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>>147036424
It's right when Beerus and Goku have their conversation on Beerus' planet.
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>>147036449
Of course I want to service a God.

But he is far above the likes of Bulma.
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>>147033768
>Goku Jr is mad at the super universe for making GT non-canon
>Is trying to destroy everything in super as an act of revenge
LIKE POTTERY
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>>147036209
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>>147036442
>He's beating SSJ Goku
He's more-or-less SS Goku's equal. He's winning because Goku's wasting more stamina trying to avoid his moves. But his powerlevel is more-or-less the same as SS Goku's, Beerus even says he's weaker than Goku.

>then he gets overpowered by SSG
One punch should have been enough to knock him out since the difference between SS Goku and SSG Goku is so enormous. Hit not only tanked two punches, he also completely tanked a Ki blast. BEFORE powering-up. How does this make any sense? Again, ONE punch should have knocked him out ON THE SPOT.
>>
Were DB fans always this stupid, or is this just a bunch of trolls messing around in DB topics?
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>>147036452
>There's no reason to think the Gods would give a shit about Black's actions
See >>147035276
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I want to ________ Supreme Kai
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>>147036479
Pic in >>147036548 related
Beerus says he's weaker than SS Goku in terms of power, so SSG Goku's punch should have knocked him out.

The anime doesn't make sense either due to Kaioken bullshit, don't call me a Toeifag, retard.
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>>147036574
Like Whis says, there's little difference. The Gods didn't see fit to stop Frieza and his army doing whatever they wanted, Black laying waste to a few worlds shouldn't attract their notice.
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>>147036597
ask Supreme Kai to take me to Beerus to become his slave.
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>>147036346
It's almost like DB characters can manipulate their Ki or something.
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>>147036624
Didn't you pay attention to what Beerus said in the first panel?
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>>147036597
I want to hold supreme kai!
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>>147036683
The God of Destruction let motherfucking Majin Buu run free and let him run a rape train on the Kaioshin, Beerus' line is inconsistent with the Gods' performance.
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>>147036638
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>>147036740
So do all the Gods of Destruction have giant holes in their pants?
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>a year on and still no beach episode
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>>147036774
So they can shit without having to pull down their pants.
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When is Raditz gonna be relevant again?
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>>147036615
Except you are retarded. See >>147036652 and Beerus said nothing about Hit's durability.
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>>147036812
Truly they are higher beings.
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>>147035804
yeah, you can spend more time on a still shot compared to 25 frames per second... are you surprised that the manga has more detail, retard?
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>>147036774
yeah so they can have a dick up there 24/7
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>>147036865
Hit had to power-up to match SSG Goku, so obviously the power he was using against SS Goku wasn't enough. Aka, BEFORE powering-up, Hit should have been knocked out by the 2 punches Goku gave him.

Stop trying to justify shit powerscalling, retard.
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>>147036914
Alright, so what's the reason why they don't wear any shirts?
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>>147036615
>dislinking both the anime and the manga

Oh, you're just a hater.
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>>147036548
Reminder that both his base form and SSJ form are around God tier.
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>>147036597
Kill

In the two arcs he's had a major role all he does is make retarded decisions
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>>147036857
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We just going to ignore Kid Trunks getting cucked yet again by his superior self?
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>>147036393
>The reveal about the connection between the God of Destruction and the Kaioshins felt more in the manga since it was used to explain why Black has gone about his business uncontested,

And it makes no sense considering we had Majin Buu killing the Kaioshin but Beerus didn't give a fuck, apparently.
That said, Beerus cannot be dead in the future because Old Kai should still be sealed in the sword.
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>>147037069
>That Vegito

N-No homo
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>>147036996
While using God Ki, yes. But he can turn it off.
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>>147036346
>Why is Hit's power so inconsistent in the manga?

The manga is more inconsistent, more rushed and has less exciting fights than the anime. Don't waste your time with it, watch the anime.
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>>147036996
Not in the manga because Goku never absorbed the power.
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>>147037069
>tfw future trunks isn't being a wingman for his younger self
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>>147036919
>It's almost like DB characters can manipulate their Ki or something.
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>>147037124
>But he can turn it off.
No wrong.

>>147037074
He was asleep.
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>>147037158
I don't know what you're trying to say. Hit had to power-up before he could even reach SSG realms of power. Which means he COULDN'T access his full power against Super Saiyan Goku (hell, he even said it himself). WHICH MEANS THAT HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN KNOCKED OUT BY SSG GOKU'S ATTACKS.
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>>147037074
Old Kai has nothing to do with anything. Only Supreme Kai's life matters. If he dies, Beerus dies. Just them two, they're the pair.
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>>147035804
>he hasn't even transformed...but e's powered up nearly the same amount as kakarot has in super saiyan 3...

F.Trunks SSJ2 being the same as Goku SSJ3 after training with Whis is so goddamn retarded it hurts.
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>>147037135
The manga rushed the BoG arc and base Goku took a point blank blast from SSB Vegeta. So yeah his base form his god tier.
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>>147037069
Who is more smug?
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>>147037337
So what you're saying is that the manga is shit, then
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>>147037337
Damn Vegeta is truly weak
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>>147037127
SSB Kaiokenx10 is the most inconsistent shit in the series desu.
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>>147037215
>blah blah

There's a reason people to say to go with the anime version of that fight. Its the one part in the manga that's for sure worse off in several ways.

Also no, Hit still hasn't shown his full power. Even in the anime Goku stops the fight since Hit wasn't allowed to reveal his true power, since he's not allowed to kill. Even in the manga as well, every time you think Hit is out, he shows that he hasn't reached his limit quite yet. Final reveal was even that he still had some tricks left supposedly. He's a rival that's not surpassed just yet officially. Goku says they'll fight again for real one day, when Hit can go all out.

Hit is proven super strong, so he'll likely job to someone in the multiverse tournament to hype them up for Goku to eventually fight.
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>>147037337
How the fuck is Goku's base God tier if Trunks in SS2 was around the same level as SS2/3 Goku?

Is Trunks God level too? Because that makes no sense.

Goddamn the powerscaling in DBS is retarded.
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>>147037200
>He was asleep.
Whis could have intervened on his behalf
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>>147037381
Nah the anime is shit the manga is pretty good.
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>>147037408
>Its the one part in the manga that's for sure worse off in several ways.
Don't let the mangafags catch you saying that
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>>147037374
our fucking boy, who else?
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>>147037407
retard
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>>147037427
No he wouldn't.
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>>147037455
Yeah you are retarded aren't you?
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>>147037407
Anime Kaioken SSB Goku vs Hit >>>>>>>> Manga Goku vs Hit
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I don't like Zamasu. Black is a much better villain.
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>>147037481
Why not? If Kaioshin and Beerus both have their lives threatened, what's to stop Whis preventing that?
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>>147037412
and ten years of training.
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>>147037520
Yes, yes, we are all retarded.
You are just a little more retarded than the rest, but that's okay. That doesn't make you bad, it just means you're special. And retarded.
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>>147037408
>Its the one part in the manga that's for sure worse off in several ways.
Not really that would be the Piccolo vs Frost fight. The manga is better in every another area.
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>>147037551
they both share similar ideals...
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>>147037528
>uses a bullshit power-up that will never be seen again as a means to the victory
>good

Meanwhile

>explanation as to why Vegeta actually lost
>explanation to Goku actually using his gifted battle talents to notice obvious tells in martial arts
>Goku uses SSJG and then SSJB in order to turn the tides afterwards

Yeah no, the manga Hit fight was far better. The only thing the anime had going for it was the theme playing.
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>>147036354
well to late man
So, nothing of worth happened today?
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the animation in the anime of hit vs goku was decent (for a change) but the manga is still way better than the anime, especially the way they handled that fight, even having goku turn into ssg again (and actually giving a decent reason for vegeta losing so easily to hit, which is just yet another thing that made no sense in the anime)
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>>147037589
Trunks and Goku from the Cell arc both had the same time to train, except that Goku trained in the After Life and had access to the SSJG ritual to absorb. Even if Trunks is a half-breed, it's still bullshit.
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>>147037565
what if whis doesn't care about either of their lives?
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>>147037528
>Anime Kaioken SSB Goku vs Hi
Nope, shit fight and SSB Kaiokenx10 is the most inconsistent shit in the series desu.
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>>147037551
You do realize they are basically the same character, right?
Face it, from the moment it was told they had similar ki it is obvious Zamasu and Black are the same person, only Black must be from a different timeline.
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>>147037679
Do I know you?
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>>147037693
Retard.
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>>147037695
They act nothing alike. Besides wanting to kill everyone, Black is eternally smug, Zamasu acts more angry.
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>>147037686
Goku didn't trained like his life depended on it. Also
>>147037589
>pic related
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>>147037740
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>>147037069
Is best boy ever coming back?
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>>147037693
Leave your autism inside your closet before posting, please.
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>>147037622
Sorry you're so retarded anon. Hope you get better.
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>>147037408
wtf are you talking about? The manga handled Hit VS Goku a million times better.
in before
>"muh SSGSS Kaiokek x10!! xD"
>"moving faster than stopped time xD"
>"Hit improving his abilities because muh growth! XD"
The manga's expalanation of the Tokitobashi's limited ability to only be able to freeze people for the full duration if you have a higher power level while you are casting the ability makes perfect sense in comparison to the whacky shit Toei pulled.
Toei literally damaged the power scaling and the character progression of Vegeta by dwarfing him in comparison with the shit they pulled.
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>>147037692
What if Whis does? It genuinely wouldn't take Whis a long time to defeat Buu
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>last episode spic subs went out so fast

>tonight's episode they are taking their fucking time
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>>147033538
GOWASU CHOKES ON THE STICKY RICE BALLS ZAMASU GAVE HIM

then out of breath he screams ZAMASU
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>>147037686
Goku never bothered with learning Full Power SSJ2, nobody did. He just got access to SSJ3 instead.

Its very clear that Full Power SSJ2 is incredibly strong. Look at how much of a difference there was between SSJ1 and Full Power SSJ1 for instance.

Goku was stupid to try and just bypass it and learn SSJ3 instead.
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>>147037739
>>147037775
>muh Kaioken
Retards pls the fight was shit.
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>>147037810
You mad, bro?
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Subbed episode where? Usual sources aren't subbed yet.
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>>147037826
It'd be fucking funny if Zamasu planned out this really indepth murder plot and Gowasu just chokes on something and dies
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>>147037818
Toei was trying to go for Goku was moving so fast that by the time Hit reacted and the time stop was up, he was getting hit.

I mean it makes sense, but they did an incredibly poor job of actually showcasing and explaining that, and just went with "I'm faster.". The mango fight is definitely better.
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Reminder that Anime Goku vs Hit is shit, the manga version is better
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who needs a shitty ssj3 where you have a ssj2 with the same power?
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>>147037679
Sauce?
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>>147037820
Whis didn't exist in the 90s

Yes it's a plot hole. You really wanna try and apply logic to it? Okay, whis would have known if supreme Kai would have really died. His wand phone didn't ring because it knows the future and saw that the situation resolves itself. Maybe the oracle fish would have let him know if he was needed. Who knows.
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>>147037672
>uses a bullshit power-up that will never be seen again as a means to the victory
How is it bullshit?

And how do you know it's never gonna be used again? You know Toei can just bring it out again and cure Goku's battle damage (no matter how severe) somehow, right?

Or hell, Toriyama might have liked the idea and he may include it in some way in future story arcs.


>explanation as to why Vegeta actually lost
The anime explained this very clearly. Goku knew about the Time Skip and how it worked, Vegeta didn't. That's why he lost. Combine that with Hit's insane power (being able to rival SSB) and it's enough.

The manga claiming that merely activating SSB twice is enough to leave you at 10% of your power is some ridiculous bullshit. The manga had the same explanation as the anime (Goku knowing about the timeskip), it was unnecessary to include that 10% nonsense but they did so because they made Hit extremely weak in comparison to the anime version.

Anyway, both versions explained it. The manga's explanation was just stupid since merely fucking transforming into SSB twice shouldn't decrease their power by 90%.

>explanation to Goku actually using his gifted battle talents to notice obvious tells in martial arts
The anime had this as well with Goku figuring out how the Time Skip worked and how to counter it. As well as how to combine the Kaioken and the SSB transformation into one.

>Goku uses SSJG and then SSJB in order to turn the tides afterwards
Which makes no sense, because according to BoG, Goku absorbed his SSG form into his base/SS form and no longer needs to use it (even Toriyama says so in interviews). Toyotaro treats it merely as another form for some retarded reason.

>Yeah no, the manga Hit fight was far better. The only thing the anime had going for it was the theme playing.
The anime version was better.
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>>147037939
>Kaiokek gets cut from Godtube's recollection that Gowasu was watching
Are Kaioken fanboys on suicide watch yet?
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>>147037714
No but your god knows whats up
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>>147037932
Oh I know the real world reason for it, I just want an in universe justification
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Why is Whis so much more attractive than Vados?
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>>147037763
Goku still absorbed the SSG power-up dude. Why is Trunks God level? Him being God level makes no sense.

>>147037835
That's not the point. If this was the Buu saga and FPSSJ2 Trunks was equal to SSJ3 Goku, I wouldn't care.

But it's not, this is Goku AFTER absorbing the God power-up (and base Goku = final form Freeza >>> first form Freeza >> Piccolo and Gohan) which makes Trunks God level, which makes no fucking sense.
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Why do you even bother to argue about power levels when even Toriyama doesn't give a shit anymore?
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>>147037991
what the fuck
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>>147038041
Because mangafags are autistic
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>>147037991
Oh, I thought you were like, asking why I havent said hi to you today or something like that.
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>>147038038
I just told you
>human-saiyan hybrid>>full blood saiyan
>ten years of training.
>Trunks trained like his life depended on it, probably with Kaioshin
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>>147038148
So you're trying to defend that Trunks being God level without the ritual or Whis' training makes sense?
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>>147038123
no mangafans are logical and enjoy consistency.
SSB Kaiokenx10 literally is filler material and that's why it got cut.
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>>147038038

Wouldn't it be obvious that Goku was holding back so he didn't atomize Trunks in one hit? It seems that they can use god ki at will because iirc he didn't use it when he fought with Zamasu.
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>>147037939
>How is it bullshit?
Because there was a 90% chance it wouldn't work, and Goku got plot armor so it would work.
>And how do you know it's never gonna be used again?
Because its been explicitly stated he won't use it again. And Goku's battle damage, is death or never being able to use Ki again.
>Or hell, Toriyama might have liked the idea and he may include it in some way in future story arcs.
He may have, but clearly that hasn't shown up again when he fought Black.
>The anime explained this very clearly.
No it didn't. Vegeta got his ass stomped and then suddenly Goku (who should be the same speed as Vegeta) is just magically faster and able to hit Hit? Vegeta should have been so fast as well, but it didn't.
>The manga's explanation was just stupid since merely fucking transforming into SSB twice shouldn't decrease their power by 90%.
Hardly, its showing that they can't just use SSJB like crazy, the form has drawbacks despite all its other benefits, that is a good thing to do.
>The anime had this as well with Goku figuring out how the Time Skip worked and how to counter it.
His counter was to just be faster...
>Which makes no sense, because according to BoG,
I won't argue that. The start of the fight should have been SSJ and then went to SSB.
>The anime version was better.
Its really not. Goku asspulled everything in the anime and nothing was explained other than "I'm faster". At least Hit had an obvious tell that Goku could exploit in the manga that made for an interesting battle, other than "I'm fast, I punch hard!" and then "I'm even faster and punch harder!"
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>>147037852
>muh manga

The fights in it are shorter than a monkey's attention span.
No wonder only you loves it so much.
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Who even cares about all this autistic arguing? Just enjoy whatever version you prefer
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>>147038174
Manga has no consistency because Goku absorbed the SSJG transformation into his base form and now suddenly it's treated as a transformation beyond SSJ3 instead of his base form being ridiculously strong like it should be.
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Logically, which characters can fight on ties with characters with god level ki without receiving the same training?

Only Mystical Gohan, if he actually trained?
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full episode here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELx-SFBSCJs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELx-SFBSCJs
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>>147038171
He's not on god level because Goku using God Ki knocked him the fuck out.
The Goku absorbing God Essence theory doesn't hold weight because he clearly needed to ACTIVATE it to use it.
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>>147038026
because you're gay
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>Goku vs Hit
Better in the manga. The anime fight was shit almost all of it was looped animation instead actually good fight choreography. They didn't even explain why Kaioken worked against Timeleap unlike the manga.

It's funny, you attach Kaioken to a mediocre fight and people will eat that shit up. Also SSB Kaiokenx10 not being stronger than Beerus is bullshit.

>SSG made Beerus use 70% of his power
>SSB is stronger plus Whis said that Goku and Vegeta together can beat Beerus
>Yet SSBx10 Kaioken isn't stronger than Beerus
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>>147038227
>Muh anime
Retards pls >>147035085
>>147035149
>>147035290
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>>147038241
>now suddenly it's treated as a transformation beyond SSJ3 instead of his base form being ridiculously strong like it should be.
except we never ever saw his base form being powered up ever again since the movie.
The Anime fails in this department just as much.
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>>147038304
Its worse than that.

>SSG made Beerus use 70% of his power
>Base Goku KEEPS his God power
>But for some reason going SSJ doesnt make him 700% stronger than Beerus
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>>147038241
You mean the same as the movie? Great.
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>>147038038
You mean just like Vegeta reached God level just by training for a year with Whis? When said training was mostly just carrying heavy shit and trying not to die?

Who the fuck cares if Trunks is nearing God level. Fucking anybody can do it. Its not like Whis' training was anything special anyways, it was basically a harder King Kai's training. Besides would it better fit your butthurt if Old Kai gave Trunks Mystic and he was hitting his full potential and learned to use FPSSJ2 on top of that?

Trunks is strong, big deal. Its not like we haven't seen stuff like this before the past 30 years.
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>>147034302
Its funny though
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>>147038371
>SSG made Beerus use 70% of his power
They only said that in the movie, never the anime, which DID compare Goku and Vegeta to trees and Beerus to a castle.
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>>147038403
They trained inside of Whis' staff retard
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who needs shitty good ki when you can be on the same level?
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>>147038433
Fuck off
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>people still argue over the anime vs. manga while on /a/ - anime & manga

You faggots need to shut the fuck up, both versions are good for their own merits. The anime just has some shitty animation most of the time.

Shut the fuck up and like whichever you want and stop being autistic shitposters about it. Fucking christ.
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>>147033776
>>147033897
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>>147038451
Well what the fuck, unless God Goku is literally .01% of Beerus's power it STILL doesn't make any sense.

They should never have had the whole "Your body kept the God powers" thing in the first place, it fucked everything up.
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>>147038454
Which is any different how? It has more gravity, big deal. We don't know the extent of Trunks' training. He could have been training with Old Kai this entire time until Black showed up. We have no idea.
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>>147038403
the problem isn't his strength, it's the poor writing which doesn't explain it. i would definitely be ok with it if future whis or old kai were involved
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>>147038304
Nice copypasta, faggot.
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>>147038512
>They should never have had the whole "Your body kept the God powers" thing in the first place, it fucked everything up.
I agree, by the looks of it they pretty much retconned it so you havee to activate any kind of god essence that he has (absorbed or otherwise)
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>>147038219
>Because there was a 90% chance it wouldn't work, and Goku got plot armor so it would work.
That was just a way to make sure that bringing back the power-up after so long would have consequences. And it did have consequences, as we saw from the following episodes and Kaio telling Goku that he may end up in a wheelchair if he uses it again.

>Because its been explicitly stated he won't use it again. And Goku's battle damage, is death or never being able to use Ki again.
Both of which can be fixed by the Dragon Balls. Earth's, Namek's, Super DBs, you name it. Even if, for some reason, even the mighty Super DBs can't fix it, then Toei can just pull something out of their ass to fix it, you know Toei.

You can't say for certain that it's not gonna be used again.

>He may have, but clearly that hasn't shown up again when he fought Black.
We haven't reached the final fight of the arc yet or seen Black and Goku's fight in the manga to know.

>No it didn't. Vegeta got his ass stomped and then suddenly Goku (who should be the same speed as Vegeta) is just magically faster and able to hit Hit? Vegeta should have been so fast as well, but it didn't.
Vegeta didn't know what Hit was doing. Goku knew Hit was basically teleporting so, being a martial arts genius, was able to predict where Hit was ending up.

It's literally the same explanation as the manga. May I remind you that normal SS1 Goku (and base Goku at a point) was managing to predict where Hit was going to end up whilst SSB Vegeta couldn't?

>Hardly, its showing that they can't just use SSJB like crazy
Having drawbacks is a good thing. Merely transforming, not fighting, twice taking away 90% of your power just makes the form useless and makes Vegeta an idiot for abusing it.

>His counter was to just be faster...
Pic related.

Goku did the same thing in both the manga and the anime, I'll agree that the whole hands in pockets thing was clever though.
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>>147038538
Well assume they are. Toriyama only gives them the storyboards, and lets them figure out the details from there, he finds it better this way. So Toei and Toyo are free to change things as they see fit as long as the outcomes and such are roughly the same, such as Goku vs. Hit or Goku vs. Trunks.

We could get an explanation like that in the manga with Toyo. As of the anime, you probably won't get one. So assume whatever you want, Toriyama probably wouldn't care, considering the freedom he's allowing them unless something is stated eventually.

I really don't understand why people are this upset over inconsistent power levels in Dragon Ball, its always been a thing and has never really been much of a big deal.
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>>147038356
We saw it in the F movie and arc where base Goku = final form Freeza >>> first form Freeza >> Gohan and Piccolo.

>>147038386
That scene never made much sense in the movie because of Beerus' explanation, he says that Goku absorbed the power into his base/SS form. At least Super cut that scene out.
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Spic subs are up at jkanime
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>>147038487
>>147038487
>The anime just has some shitty animation most of the time.
And ruins Goku's character one episode at a time.
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>>147038606
Not him, but that is why the mango version is better. It bothers to actually explain things as opposed to just briefly glossing over them.
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>>147038667
It didnt really cut it out, Beerus still said that the God power was in Goku.
But they made it seem a little less extreme by not having Goku go to base form first, instead he went from SSG straight to SSJ.
But the damage is done, people are going to by the movie.
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>>147038659
assume my dick. this isnt' fanfiction. if it isn't shown or said, they weren't involved
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>>147038667
>We saw it in the F movie and arc where base Goku = final form Freeza >>> first form Freeza >> Gohan and Piccolo.
that doesn't prove anything,
>>147038667
>he says that Goku absorbed the power into his base/SS form
that's pretty much retconned now too ever since the Champa arc where they go back to using normal SSJ without any god essence.
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>Krillin was the only one to get a good wife while Goku married a bitch and Vegeta married a whore
Did Toriyama feel sorry for Krillin or something? And why didn't anyone object to him marrying her.
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>>147038667
>At least Super cut that scene out.

Wrong the DBS rehashes didn't even explain how Pilaf and the other became young again, removed Trunks x Mai and the subplot about Bulma taking in Pilaf and friends all of which were carried over in Toriyama outlines. Yet in the DBS anime these things appear out of nowhere if you weren't familiar with the movies.

Also the character moment Toei tried to force on Gohan not going anywhere since it wasn't apart of the original movie. The rehashes were done because of money and money alone, they do not replace the movies.

The movies are partially owned by Fox. Super's first two arcs exist in large part to stop Fox from getting merchandising money from games and other merch that use Beerus, Whis, Golden Freeza and the god forms.
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>>147038716
But the explanation in the pic was the same one as the anime version, that's why I posted it.
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>>147038487
>people

It is just one autistic fuck who keeps shitposting about the manga being better than the anime in every thread. He loves the manga so much he should marry it, like a man who was walking inside the forbidden city disguised as a part of the background to see Mao Zedong's body but doesn't know Mao's body is elsewhere.
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>caring this much about power levels

Remember when SSJ2 Vegeta was pushing Beerus back and not getting immediately driven into the dirt?

>inb4 b-but he didn't do anything to Beerus

Trunks didn't manage to do anything to Black/Zamasu either, he basically did the same thing SSJ2 Vegeta did to Beerus.
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>>147038773
>The rehashes were done because of money and money alone, they do not replace the movies.
Do you know if the budgets were any smaller? Because it'd make the animation make a lot more sense
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>>147038756
>that doesn't prove anything,
It proves that his base form is ridiculously stronger than Piccolo and Gohan when in BoG Beerus said it was weaker than Freeza?
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>>147038773
What does that have anything to do with

>At least Super cut that scene out
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>>147036442
But he's just a bloody hitman. Why is he god powerful? Especially when everyone else in his universe is so weak.
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>>147034616
>Gohan fans being upset that Gohan has been written out of the show
>BUT BUT HE'S HAPPY, SHUT UP GOHANFAGS

Vegeta retiring was part of the reason people hated GT so goddamn much, so what exactly is the difference other than MUH VEGETA WOULD NEVER RETIRE?
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>>147038833
>It is just one autistic fuck who keeps shitposting about the manga being better than the anime in every thread
he's probably counter shit-posting the dumb anime babbies that eat all of Toei's filthy shit up.
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>>147035228
According to King Kai and Kaioshin, they're not supposed to interfere in the mortals' affairs, even if it's something like a galaxy-wide genocide, as long as it done by one of the mortals. That's why King Kai couldn't only help Goku by training him (to fight Vegeta) and with information (Freeza). Because Whis, Beerus and Kaioshin are part of the Z Senshi now, we think they can just fix it, but they have no reason to.

Kaioshin only appeared on Earth because Majin Boo and Bibidi killed the other Kaioshin. They were a menace to life itself. Otherwise, he wouldn't give a crap to Earth, even if Cell blew it up.
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>>147038928
He's the good Frieza counterpart.
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>>147038930
The difference is Gohan never wanted to fight, he was always dragged into things. Do you remember his fight with Cell? "I don't want to fight and hurt people, I just can't control my rage."
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>>147036953
titfucking or lactation, pick your poison
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>>147039001
>There actually is a pic of Beerus titfucking Champa

I guess that then.
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>>147037912
>Hey dad can you go SSJ3 like Goku did?
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>>147038863
>Because it'd make the animation make a lot more sense
The animation sucked because Toei rushed DBS production, messing up the schedule so animators had less time to work on the episodes.

>>147038907
The movies are canon, DBS rehashes are not. So it doesn't matter what Super "cut"
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>>147038935
Reading the manga is like you are at McDonalds eating french fries with your eyes instead of your mouth. If that is your thing then more power to you, I guess.
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>>147038953
King Kai could only help Goku by training him, because he was pretty weak.
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WHY IS TRUNKS SO STRONG, HE CAN'T FIGHT GODS, HE'S ONLY SSJ2!
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>>147039087
How are the movies more canon to Super than Super's own arcs?
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>>147037921
its the same person who drew any other lewd beerus
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=14287266
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spic subs up
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>>147039112
No, King Kai said he shouldn't even be taking sides. Right after Vegeta escapes, there's two panels where he says this.
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>>147039135
Because Toriyama himself made the movies.
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I feel bad for Gowasu, hopefully nothing bad will happen to him. He seems genuinely sweet old kaioshin and gives us weekly new memes. Also next episode looks amazing.
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>>147039119
Trunks being as strong as Goku SJ3 in the Manga is understandable. But him being on par with Black Rose and Zamasu who are in SJB levels of power if plain retarded
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>>147039135
Read the post next time
>Wrong the DBS rehashes didn't even explain how Pilaf and the other became young again, removed Trunks x Mai and the subplot about Bulma taking in Pilaf and friends all of which were carried over in Toriyama outlines. Yet in the DBS anime these things appear out of nowhere if you weren't familiar with the movies.

>Also the character moment Toei tried to force on Gohan not going anywhere since it wasn't apart of the original movie.
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>>147039193
>Trunks
>On par

He didn't do a damn thing to either one of them, they both just shrugged it off with no damage whatsoever.
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>>147039178
Ok, good for him.
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What if Vados and Whis are personifications of their respective Universes?
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>>147039162
And who is going to come down on him?
The Supreme Kai had no idea what was going on in his own universe

Also, wasn't the Supreme Kai just one of four?
What were the other ones for? Do other universes have multiple Supreme Kais?
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>>147039178
Like a man making a baby with a woman he thought was his age but was actually way older and busted.
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>>147039235
>He didn't do a damn thing to either one of them, they both just shrugged it off with no damage whatsoever.
Trunks sent Black Goku flying and was kicking Zamasu's ass
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>>147035170
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>>147039273
You'd think Whis would be a little more violent then huh?

Then again I guess Frieza was the Emperor of the Universe and he was pretty flamboyant as well.
>>147039275
East, North, South, West, and Supreme. Other Universes should have them all and their respective Otherworlds too.
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desu I like the Hit fight in the manga and anime equally
Like, it's cool to see the raw power of Blue in one, but it was also cool to see Goku using a technique to enhance himself beyond Hit's timeskip

I really don't think you can go wrong with choosing either
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>>147039313
In Dragon Ball anyone can usually get a few good hits in regardless of power discrepancy.
Krillin got a few in on Freeza.
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>Zamasu is immortal
Can't wait for some asspull on why Goku/Trunks can kill him
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>>147039154
Thanks
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>>147035114
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>>147039275
Kaioshins live for millions of years. It's not too much of a stretch to imagine multiple could be born in the span of only one's life. Looking at the others Kaioshins (there were five, not four), the fat one was supposed to be the oldest.
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>>147039333
>East, North, South, West, and Supreme.
But there were four Supreme Kais too, until Buu killed them.
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>>147039332
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>>147039313
Vegeta also sent Beerus' ass flying in SSJ2, big deal. As for Trunks kicking Zamasu's ass, he wasn't at all. He managed to hit him with the sword due to reach, and punched and kicked him a bit, both of which did absolutely nothing, just like Final Flash.

Zamasu doesn't have to worry about things as much due to his immortality, he can literally slack off and still be fine.

Trunks did nothing.
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>>147039344
Kaiokek was really good fanservice and hype but from a consistency/powerscaling/logical point of view it didn't hold much weight.
It also degraded Vegeta as a character being completely dwarfed in comparison to Goku's power.
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If there's a god of destruction for every universe then why isn't the Universe 10 god of destruction getting involved in this? It seems like beerus is doing his job for him when he should be more concerned with the fact that there's a rogue supreme kai.
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>>147039412
They're all Supreme Kais (Kaioshin). The fat one is Grand Supreme Kai (Dai Kaioshin).
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>>147039467
He might be in stasis like Beerus was.
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>>147039435
Yeah, I can see what you mean. I don't see it making a reappearance due to how his body and ki reacted after though, so as a one shot thing I think it worked nicely.
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>>147039412
Those were the ones before King Kai for instance.

Supreme Kai, Gowasu, etc. are like Grand Supreme Kais. The ones Buu killed were King Kai and companies predecessors.
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>>147039538
wake that nigga up
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>>147038996
>The difference is Gohan never wanted to fight
Can we stop with this meme? Seriously. You also forgot to post the single picture of him talking to Cell
There's a difference from Not Liking to Fight and Willing to Fight
Gohan will always jump into a situation if he thinks it's for a good cause. He didn't have to go to Namek. He went anyway. He didn't have to train for 3 years for the Androids. He did it anyway. He didn't have to train for the tournament. He did it anyway.

If Gohan's going to get written out of the story, fucking fine. I'll deal with it. I'd rather he not appear if he's just going to fucking job.

But what gets to me is this idea that Gohan has to be written by some stranger hyper realistic standard (HE HAS A JOB! HE HAS A FAMILY! HE'S HAPPY! YOU DON'T WANT HIM TO BE HAPPY? SELFISH NERDS) in order to keep him out of the story, and people like you telling me that if I should so much as dare to be upset that a character I like literally being sidelined, and that I just want to live through him as a genius badass or some horseshit like that.

Gohan's taken an active part in the entirety of DBZ. I shouldn't have to explain myself for feeling upset that he's joining the jobber/abandoned bus like so many other characters. That's most of the reason why people hated GT so goddamn much, but now we chomp at the bit to defend Super for whatever shit it does, because it's better by default because it's not GT.

Between this, and "Toonamifags" and "Toeifags", this fucking fanbase is a goddamn travesty.
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>>147039591
no you are wrong, that is completely false.
Even Zamasu is still just a simple Kai, a Kaioshin in training. There's no way any of them are Grand Supreme Kai level yet.
In terms of power level? Perhaps, but by titles that we've been given this is what they are.
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>>147035114
Z...Zamasu?!
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>>147039367
Does anyone actually remember anything that happens in this series, or do we just run our mouths based on what we think is true.

The only time Krillin touched Freeza was with the Kienzan in his second form, and that was it.
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>>147039591
So what is Grand Kai?
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>>147038464
angsty anon
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>>147039778
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>>147039796
Didn't he also get a surprise attack in after being healed by Dende?
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tfw no female qt kai
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>>147040033
He cut Frieza's tail off. Hell Gohan fucking bounced Genki Dama/Spirit Bomb back at fucking Vegeta, like the entire Earth's Ki, he bounced back at Vegeta.

Power levels never meant shit, people are retarded over Trunks.
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>>147040080
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>>147035114
This one works better with sound i guess.
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new thread

>>147040258

>>147040258

>>147040258
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>>147040240
kaio-kek
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>>147040240
This is incredible OC.
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>>147034305
Black zetsu
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>>147035805
Vete a la mierda
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>>147035877
here
http://jkanime.net/dragon-ball-super/58/
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>>147033689
he didn't drink so good
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>>147037452
Black is smug and all, but Vegito is no slouch either.
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