Reminder that she's only 18.

>>147007535
Thats about half your age OP and you still are virgin

>>147007535
Best Kamachi girl.

>>147007535
She's only 18

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>>147009689
All HO girls are great, but I respectfully disagree with you.

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And this is 14

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>>147007535
She's an 18/10

>>147007535
>>147010013
This woman was hot as fuck in every damn scene she was in. I could watch a whole show just about her doing things, although the bantz between Qwenser and Heivia was great.

Where's my fucking season 2?

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>>147010110
Probably never.;_;

>>147010527
I feel sorry for the euroweeb. Having these two around must be terrible for her blood pressure.

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>>147010011

I want to have a word with people designing those military uniforms.

>“Check inside the dashboard if you like, but don’t lift your hips like that, Catherine. Your butt is in a pretty dangerous spot there. And it’s only covered by a black bikini.”
>“Oh, whoops. How indecent of me. A lady needs to sit properly, doesn’t she?”
>“I’m not sure nestling down on my lap like that is better. Your butt just likes to cause trouble, doesn’t it?”
I think Kamachi is trying to tell us something.

>>147011277
Nothing wrong with boosting morale.

>>147007535
how recommended are the LNs? do they get much better?

>>147011642
Your grin gets wider and wider at their antics.

>>147011642
They encounter crazier and crazier Objects, and have to invent crazier and crazier strategies to take them down.

I really wonder where Kamachi gets ideas for these things.

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>>147010191
post more

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>>147011885

>>147011882
If nothing else he's one of the most creative authors out there.

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>>147011885
This is your commanding officer tonight.

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>>147011642
Absolutely.

>>147009689
Not even the best girl in her own series

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I still remember how this show got almost no attention aside from the ten anons who watched it weekly, because raildexfags were salty that this got animated instead of more raildex.

>>147012154
how can anyone be salty about this?

but what is going on with those weird crops?

>>147011882
For what stood out with the Object is that they really conveyed the effects of such large machines well.

They don't just march around having little to no effect on the environment. Hell the jumping Object was wiping everything near it out everytime it moved.

>>147012154
It got no attention because of seatbelts. At least the threads were comfy as fuck once all of the idiots were gone.

>>147012154
>trying to start shitflinging

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>>147011983
>We'll never see Grand Theft Object animated
Why live

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>>147012154
Your memory must be iffy, because raildexfags were at least half or more of the people in the threads. And there were way more than 10 people.

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What was her best outfit?

>>147012262
It's just what actually happened.

>>147012289
No, it's true.
Most people were late to the little party.
Episode one was rather slow and a lot of trolling ensued for the first half dozen episodes or so, by people who said things like "they didn't animed raildex, instead they did for this piece of shit"
I do understand that many people then relented when shit got really exciting.

>>147012289
He's just an asspained shitposter. Probably the same guy that was screaming about how Raildex is trash and no one cares about it anymore in the NT17 thread yesterday

>>147009689
Woah, pause. I'd consider if you called her the best HO girl but the best Kamachi girl? Not when TANMI exists.

>>147012090
>>147012289
That's right, Uiharu is best girl. Across two different series.

>>147011882
Also more girls.

>>147012289
Yeah i remember quite a few in the threads who were happy to see HO animated though the first few threads had alot of HURRRR DURRRR in em.

While i agree the seatbelt thing was stupid other than that i enjoyed it. Quenther pulls crazy shit without magic hard counter plot device crap like in Index/Raildex and the banter
between characters was great. Object's felt genuinely dangerous and look good unlike humanoid mecha number 4547874722776105.

All in all it was a good show.

>>147011327
12 years old butts are the best

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Jet fuel flamethrower granny best girl.

When are we going to get some Zashiki Warashi? I want to see Kamachi's other titty monster in glorious animation.

>>147012702
>glorious animation
Not JC pls. I'm still mad about the water

>>147012154

Many people boycotted it because muh Index. Most of the rest dropped it after the horrible first episodes.

But it slowly became great.

>>147012702
>anime to promote novels that ended

Never.

>>147007535
>she's only 18

And this is why I can't take anime seriously.

>>147012967
>Taking anime seriously

>>147012967
Generalizing anime aside, there's something seriously wrong with you if you take Heavy Object seriously.

>>147010110
After Index III, a Zashiki Warashi and a Blood Sign adaptation, of course.

It's probably a given, but do the HO LNs have as much technobabble as Index? If so picked the fuck up

>>147013127
Yes. There's a lot of that.

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>>147012855
We'll get one to promote a 0-X office and Jinnai Hyakki Yakou novel series right?

>>147013120

We'll probably see Blood Sign, then HO2. Index is dead and Zashiki novels are over.

>>147012967
>Implying there aren't 3Ds that look like this.

>>147013217
>HO2
Memes aside Index has a better shot at getting a new season than that.

>>147013120
A Simple something OVAs when?

>thinking any more Kamachi anime will happen for a while

>>147013254

Not really. Index is way too behind and Railgun is more popular anyways.

New HO anime makes much more sense because first one failed to advertise the novels very much.

>>147013309
Boo Boo will probably get one in the next few years due to the isekai craze.

>>147013127
And technobabble in HO actually kinda sorta makes sense. It's not too far out there.

>>147013309

Those generic harem anime are generally dying out. They stopped selling.

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>>147013337
Do you understand how the industry works?

>>147011277
nahh watch anime, you see the suit requires adjusting through an instrument phase as it's most basic explanation. Reaffirms the body cellularly.

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>>147013217

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This is also an Eighteen year old

>>147013391

Do you? Hyakka S1 failed hard and still got more anime. Chihayafuru anime failed hard and got more seasons. There are countless other examples.

>>147013440
This is the one with the yandere queen isn't it?

I hope It gets an anime. I need some fresh yandere material.

>>147011949
>tfw Kamachi will never write a weekly manga

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>>147007535
>>147010013
>>147010191
>>147011946
>>147011975
>>147012154
FROLEYTIA
IS
MEANT
FOR
RAPING

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>Railgun is by far the most popular and successful series Kamachi ever made
>he still keeps making those generic harem series about dudes

When will the guy learn?

>>147009775
LOL

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>>147013641

>>147013675
Is there any famous yuri LN out there?

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>>147013675

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>>147013675

>>147013337
Volume 15 animated will boost the series again.

>>147012855
What is Shakugan no Shana III?

>>147013830

LN's are a super niche industry for a specific market.

Railgun is a manga. And made many times more money than his LN's ever did.

I don't want an S2. They need to be feature length movies instead.

>>147013836
>>147013879
>fags can't deal with truth

If Blood Sign or Zashiki Warashi get anime they will sell just as horribly as HO.

>>147013913

A horrible fiasco. Great example man.

>>147013641
She'd be the one doing the raping.

>>147007535
You guys know she and OP are actually lying, right? The slut is in her mid twenty's and is in the military to avoid marriage with faceless men.

>>147014007
It was entertaining as fuck, though.

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>>147013970

>>147013932
Because it's a manga

>>147014016
That was never stated in the novels. The fact that she's 18, however, was.

>>147014121
>I have no argument

>>147014175
>Delusional worst girl fags

Enjoy those meat curtains.

>>147014303
What?

>>147014247
>BS and ZW will sell like shit because I said so!
Wew some argument you had there anon.

>>147012751
To be fair only JC can do something satisfying at this point, any other studio would change a lot of things and even if it had good animation it would probably feel soulless too.

>>147014131

Nobody cared about it before anime happened.

Actually, Railgun anime also made Index sales explode.

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>>147014247
>I have no argument
You're not ruining this thread too, shitposter-kun.

>>147014343

They will sell like shit just like literally every harem LN adaptation in the last 3 years.

>>147014351
>nobody cared about a LN before its anime
How shocking anon!

>>147014393
Try 10, harem LN adaptations never sold well, they just advertised the novels.

>>147014318
She's used goods. After denial comes anger.

>>147014422
Not that faggot but
>IS
>DxD
>DAL

>>147014427
There was like a whole arc dedicated to her preserving her purity you baboon

>>147014393
Harem != Battle harem.

>>147014399

Show me one example of a recent harem LN series making it big thanks to anime.

Hard mode: it's not Isekai "deconstruction".

>>147014427
I think I lost track of what the fuck you were trying to say.

>>147014422
>IS
>Bakemonogatari

They used to do good. Everybody just got tired of them.

>>147014007
Give your thanks to the second season and its forced love triangle fillers.

>>147014512
Those still sell really well though

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His scene was unjustly butchered.

>>147014445
>>147014512
Those are the exception not the rule.

>>147014480
That's probably mostly because they're all practicality copies of each other with a token "plot".

>>147014558

IS is dead and Kizu is selling bad for a movie.

>>147014947
Koyomimonogatari sold more than literally everything else in its season by far and it was a 7 minute anime airing on a mobile app

>>147014489
ADHD really that common among Heavy Object fans? Big guns and explosions are probably what gets you off with this poor mans Raildex.

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>It's another argue about sales episode
Do you fags even read the LN?

>>147014624
Northern Restricted Zone SS when?

>tfw HO will never get a second season because of butthurt raildexfags

>>147015211
>SS
There is a whole Mariydi spinoff waiting to be released.

>>147015229
If the execs cared they wouldn't have done it in the first place, I still say there's a chance. Half of the problem was the marketing was all wrong and they never made Object figs.

>>147015375
I still want those dolls from the preview

>>147015375
>Half of the problem was the marketing was all wrong
There even was any? Bit even in Akiba were posters for HO.
The problem lies in the awful timing they use yo announceme it.

Then the guy in charge of the event stage acts like a moron pretending fun rubbing salt and lemon juice on the wound not just once but various times.

>>147015617
There was a few promotional pictures, but most of them focused on the girls. The marketing department really did a shit job all round, at least the animators mostly got their shit together after a few episodes.

>>147013375
I want to believe anon

>>147014014
No. You're nu-male faggot if you let yourself get dominated by a woman.

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Waltraute /ss/ volume 2/OVA when?

>>147009349
>you still are virgin

Saving to be a wizard. Need to save world when time comes comrade.

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>>147016007
>He doesn't want to get gently stepped on by soft, stocking-covered feet
Check out this faggot, I bet he thinks drugs are cool.

>>147012154
I started watching it late because backlog reasons, but then I picked it and it was pretty fun, usually I can't watch many episodes of the same show in a row, but for this one I could watch 5 each time with no problem because the pace was fluid and the characters pretty nice, it was like those movies about a couple of cops being bros fighting the crime.

>>147016339
That's a nice pic of an iberian orc and dark matter being.

>>147018653
>even someone from another universe got dark matter
Kakine's suffering is never ending.

How the fuck do you have a 24 ep series and not finish the source material? Is this shit Naruto?

This show is so mediocre the only way people remember it is for the slut

This show had a dope ass OP theme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzQpjX6__h4

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>>147018722
By having too much source material to adapt in 24 episodes.

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>>147018701
Truly the sluttiest Kamachi character, even NTR girl was (slightly) less of a slut. GITD was right to leave his ass.
>>147018823
The anime never made it to the slut though.

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>Still not seen any translated doujins.

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>>147019190

>>147018969
I slightly prefer OP1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLiVsoJAMVQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hral-hNvvbE

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>>147015617

The real problem is people came expecting it to be about wrecking ball mecha piloted by cute lolis beating the shit out of each other.

Then after two episodes of nothing like that people dropped it.

I was on the verge of dropping it too but kept going out of pure boredom. And then suddenly few episodes in it started getting good.

I guarantee that show would be at least 3 times more popular if it was about Hime and not the two guys.

>>147010000
>all HO girls are great
nah, prison whore is fucking awful
Azureyfear is pretty shit too.

>>147015862

Believe what? Just look at sales threads. It's happening for a couple of seasons now.

>>147019190
Weren't any good ones anyway, nips have shit taste. On that note, friendly reminder Heavy Object doujins never which means no
> Hime and Quenser vanilla
> Heivia and his wife vanilla
> Heivia and Quenser double teaming Froleytia while bantering
> Ohoho lolidom
> Maryidi bullying
> Headpats for Russian Hime
> NTR girl
> Back-alley with Putana
> Group date with Heivia's battlemaids
> Blackmail sex with Vol 11 black uniform qt
> Sexually bullying Mikfa
> Deflowering Myonri
> Punishment time with Heivia's sister
> Drunken threesome with Froleytia and Lendy
> Harem hijinks with the Vol 11 Martini sisters
> Brainwashed Hime raping Quenser
Or anything else I may have missed.

>>147019310
>no focus on little girl pilots or fujobait so it suffered
I wish Japan had some taste and enjoyed some decent bro action.

>>147019002
Rush it. There's plenty of eps that are just nonsense BSing that could be cut down

>>147019380

Nobody wants the dudes.

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>>147019343
>Not liking a brocon imouto that would fund a billions-worth Object by herself just to kill your girlfriend and get your dick
Azureyfear was great.

>>147019310
If they marketed it for what it was instead of trying to cash in on Index's popularity and the cute girls it would have likely done better since the people who would like it would have actually picked it up in the first place.
>>147019399
HO is episodic, there's no reason to rush it when it doesn't have an overarching plot.

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>>147019425
I can tell it's you, shitposter-kun. Fuck off. The guys are almost always the best characters in Kamachi's works.

>>147007535
Old enough

>>147019399
Why the fuck would they rush self-cointained stories.

>>147019526
No metaposting, just call him a faggot and move on

>>147019425
Just slap a maid outfit on Quenser and no one would notice.

>>147019002
Give Quenther back his G cup dreams dammit.

>>147019526

Oh yes, they are so awesome. I guess that's why NT sales are also nosediving.

>>147011642
The anime was just the beginning.
It only starts getting really crazy after the anime ended.
Highlights include:
>An Object that barely moves and has bending lasers
>Icegirl
>Quenser vs. the Space Laser Object
>Quenser beating an Object by throwing sand at it.
>The Men in Black
>Quenser vs. the invincible Object
>Quenser vs. submarine Object for an entire volume
>Grand Theft Object
>beating an Object by mindbreaking the pilot
>Object quiz show
>Quenser going rogue
>Miskatonic
>Azureyfear

>>147019521
>it would have likely done better since the people who would like it would have actually picked it up in the first place

Show me a male focused anime (that's not 100% fujoshit) that did well this year.

>>147007535
>only 18
>only
She's already past prime breeding age, why should I be surprised?

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>>147019727
>Icegirl

A movie about her could save HO.

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>>147019727
>Quenser vs. the invincible Object

>>147019833
I'm not gonna lie, an OVA or movie for Mariydi would probably outdo the main series itself.

>>147019891

It would. And just like Railgun anime revived Index it could easily revive HO.

>>147019369
>All people think about is sex

>>147019727
Is MIB the STUDY of Heavy Object?

>>147019992
Well, they're doujin ideas.

>>147019992
I'd just rather see something that isn't fat faceless old men once in a while.

>>147010013
why are there so few fit girls in anime? God, her body is just perfect.

The big shame is the fact that the setting is pretty damn good. Perfect for some mecha action without retarded Gundams.

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I'd totally play a HO video game if you could pilot the Objects.

>>147019993
Not at all.
They're extremely competent and a serious threat to the world order, or would be, if they didn't cling to their outdated philosophy.

They stayed under the radar of the major world powers and managed to build an Object that surpassed every single other Object in the series, except maybe the Amaterasu and the Miskatonic. Remember, it took on three hostile Objects and won straight up, in a world where Object vs. Object is largely decided by numbers.

With a bit more time to build another couple Early States they could easily have been the 4th player in the big boy pool.

>>147020253
>almost 100%
You know, I hate math but this makes my head hurt.

>>147020253
There's one in-universe. Hime complaining about the stats of the Baby Magnum is great.

>>147020409
Hime also gets completely wrecked by Ohoho

>>147019521
>HO is episodic, there's no reason to rush it when it doesn't have an overarching plot.
To get to the overarching plot

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>>147020455
That's business as usual.

>>147020501
It doesn't have one. Kamachi himself said he wrote it so you can pick it up at any volume.
The volumes aren't even numbered unlike almost every single other novel around.

>>147020635
It did have one so far.
The war in oceania was clearly an overarching story that has been going on for three volumes.
With the end of Theater of Ghosts, we can assume that the country has been stabilized, though.

>>147020635
It has to have one to be able to end. Whatever the last story is and whatever is related to it is the overarching plotline.

>>147020253

This.

They really should make one.

>>147020792
It shows no signs of ending anytime soon.

>>147020792
What overarching story?
Why should it end?
It's a war that has been going on for decades.

HO is not a world of heroes, there is no way Quenser or anyone else could end the war at this point.

Kamachi said it himself:
The world of Heavy Object is a shitty world where the good are not rewarded and the evil are not punished

>>147020943
If it was really a shitty realistic world, Quenser and Hevia would already be dead. The world is already unrealistic for them being able to beat Objects so many times when they're just dinky little retard soldiers. And yet somehow no one else is as genius as them to be able to do this.

>>147020792
Doubtful. HO is essentially Kamachi's outlet for all the cool science ideas that he couldn't use in Index. It will end when he has officially run out of things to write.

>>147020311
It only would have worked until they figured it out without the device they claimed to be making that would allow them to spread acid all over Australia. Still, they're not as pathetic as STUDY, their tech wasn't destroyed by a slut with a baseball bat.
>>147020455
I'm pretty sure Hime had more wins when they stopped.

>>147021153
No one said anything about realistic

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>>147021203

>>147021153
Nobody said anything about realistic mate.

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>>147021203
I didn't think teasing could make me this hard

>>147021204
>>It only would have worked until they figured it out without the device they claimed to be making that would allow them to spread acid all over Australia
Once they have a couple, they can intercept any attack easily. It doesn't matter whether the enemy finds out once they have a few build.

>>147007535
So? People usually are fully developed at eighteen.

>>147021204
>I'm pretty sure Hime had more wins when they stopped.

She did. Hime is a crazy good pilot stuck with a crappy object.

>>147021262
>>147021240
Shit world implies realistic to me

>no vanilla hime or ohoho doujins
>NO DOUJINS AT ALL

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>>147021604
ABSOLUTE MAD MAN

>>147021356
Are you 15 or something? People change a lot between 18 and 23-25.

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>>147020253
>>147020328
How can she guarantee 'almost 100%'? If this is as her childbirth tends toward infinity the first 1000 children she has could be worthless daughters that would never carry on your name.

What a deceitful semen demon.

it's about a ragtag group of hard-talkin', power suit-wearin' men tasked with disarming automatic tanks in a post-apocalyptic Tokyo.

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>>147021736

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>>147021736
No,it's about cleaning

>>147013675
railgun shit have your (you)

>>147021855
>meidos spin-off
>ice loli spin-off
>Ohoho spin-off

All of them would be better than the main series.

>>147022035
Not really.

>>147021925

How is that not true? Railgun sells three times better. It also sells much more merchandise.

>>147021855
Twintails maid still best

>>147022083

Yes, really.

>>147021925
Love is my rail.

>>147021720
That's ignoring the fact that sex determination of offspring is done by sperm. There's no way to select for Y-chromosome sperm.

>>147021717
You generally don't see much growth during that time period. It would usually be very small changes. Breasts especially don't get bigger when you become MILF age like they do in anime.

season 2 fucking when?

>>147022220
Anytime now.

>>147022173
>anime is real life
I'm already working under the assumption that she has any control over the "almost 100%" just let me have my fun.

>>147022173

It's just some stupid superstition.

>>147022136
no.

What kind stories do you want to tell about the Information Alliance whores? They don't have what it takes to be main characters. You can't do anything with them other than something along the lines of Lost Angels 2, which I'm honestly not very interested in, because the main appeal of Lost Angels was that a couple outsiders were thrown into the city.

The only cute girl characters you could viably write a decent story about is Yog-Sothoth or maybe one of the Martini series.

Everything else featuring a girl in the main role just doesn't have the potential to go anywhere or seems really weird and out of place.

>>147022173
>Implying glorious nobles are subject to the same limitations as commoner scum
Look at this plebeian.

>>147022676
>Not loli Ohoho
Wouldn't buy.

>>147022173
Why shouldn't an egg be capable of rejecting X chromosome sperm?

>>147013451
Wait, seriously? I always thought she was like 25.

So since season two is a long long time away anyone one know where to find the novels past the show ended? I check the normal place but it seems the download link died.

>>147022735
The egg is just an egg it's not sentient or partial to certain sperm cells.

However I'm pretty sure the Y sperm cell is more likely to die in the vagina than the X sperm cell, so daughters actually are slightly more likely than sons by like 1%

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>>147022928
She's described as looking 18-19

>>147022946
The goddess has them.

>>147023102
Oh yeah forgot novels are with the goddess too.

>>147019369
>mostly vanilla
That kinda sucks. Froleytia dances around in a strip pole to increase morale of her troops, she drinks with old men for diplomatic relations, and she lets her troops slap her ass for losing a billiards game.

Are you racist against faceless men or fat men or old men?

>>147023023
Oriana is the original hot older woman in his works

>>147023289
Yes, it's the laziest shit ever.

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>>147023361
You can never go wrong with a Blonde drills busty Onee-san

This show displays the future of anime. Episodic hi-jinx that never begin so they never end sold to you in snippets for BD monies and LN sales.

>>147023422
I really fucking love witch hats

>>147022998
Why would the egg need to sentient.
All it would take would be a biochemical incapability of forming an embryo with x-chromosome sperm, which should be easy to implement using futuristic genetic engineering or a fictional genetic issue.

>>147022289
What's her secret? X-chromosome-killing vaginal fluids? XX-proof uterine lining? X-rejecting ova?

>>147022608
>glorious nobles
She's a witch if her statement is true.

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>>147023289
Vanilla is just fine, thank you very much. Some rough bullying is alright too, but faceless old men have no place.

>>147023466
I also said it's not partial either.

Also what you explained is way more complicated than just separating X sperm from Y sperm which is already in use today.

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No more samples

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>>147023597
>He doesn't self-insert as the faceless old man
I also self-insert as the helplessly thrusting shota.

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>>147023697
Fag

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>>147023809
If you've got the full high quality scans of these then I'd suck your cock

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>>147023870
Sorry, I only have screencaps.

>>147023597
I want to put some flowers on Myonri's head and then deflower her.

>>147012253
It's probably a composite.

>>147024066
>Put flowers on her head
>She smiles with great joy
>Take them off right after
You sick fuck.

>>147024278
I hope she gets an illustration this volume, seeing some flowers on her head would make my day. But knowing Kamach it'll probably be full of loli butt or something.

So which Objecto do you want to hold your strategic position?

>>147022433

Nice retarded opinion.

Main duo is nothing amazing and heir antics already got boring few episodes in.

You could write very good stories about other characters.

>>147024794
Go away Nagai.

>>147024794
Then pitch a story about the maids.
Pitch a story about Ohoho.

There isn't really anything you can do with them.

>>147024845

Are you seriously retarded or something?

>>147024913
No.
Go give me a story about the Maids.
Go give me a story about Ohoho.

You said that you could write much more interesting stories about them than the main duo.
Show me that you can.

>>147024949

Holy shit, you could write million of different stories in the setting. It's a fairy generic near future sci-fi world.

If anything writing about the main duo is harder since you need to make retarded excuse #40 on how they managed to defeat a machine they shouldn't be able to defeat. Again.

How hard would it be to write a story about maids working on some mission?

We already had Ice witch volume and it was great.

>>147025101
You don't understand HO at all, do you?
The stories exist to tell us about the world, the ridiculous places there, like Lost Angels, the city where everyone is a spy, and the crazy things that are happening in that world.

What interesting things could you possibly show using those characters? Tell me what the maids would see on their mission and why we should care about it.

Also don't please pretend that you have read HO.

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>>147024949
Don't waste your time with the idiot that doesn't realize that bros > hoes. Unless the hoes are with a bro, then it can be alright.

>name is Barbotage
>he sabotages all the time

Brilliant

I like how the entire concept of Objects was a conspiracy by 「DE JEWS」(really just the old world order, of course) and nothing about them was actually practical without forcing the meta to be what it became, also the pilots were nothing special and chosen for their looks/pedigree rather than some silly science reason

>>147025234
No, I really want to know what kind of story he thinks is there.
Writing about Quenser and Heivia is easy, you can just throw them at some death machine and everything basically writes itself once you justify why they are there, why the enemy is there and so on.

With other characters, it's far more difficult to come up with something interesting, because they don't have as much of an outsider perspective. You don't showcase the world using them as you would with Quenser and Heivia.

The maids are elite operatives posing as mercenaries and every battle you can put them into is plain boring.
So you have to limit yourself to non-Object combat situations, which means at best you can do another volume of Lost Angels antics, because in the no-Object zone they'd get slaughtered like nothing.

Similar thing with Ohoho, what story do you want to tell about her? She goes somewhere with her object, blows shit up, the end. There is nothing more you can do with her, or any pilot that isn't Putana Highball.

>>147025406
Kamachi truly is a genius of naming. Looking forward to more silly names this volume since it already started with >Faires Appetizer

>>147025664
That wasn't mentioned anywhere.
Naturally a shift of warfare from senseless slaughter to battles of materiel appealed to the world leaders.

Not to mention that Objects are LITERALLY unbeatable using conventional warfare. Even the Baby Magnum can take multiple nukes (and intercept them too) like nothing.

>also the pilots were nothing special and chosen for their looks/pedigree rather than some silly science reason
Remember that time that one kid thought it was a good idea to pilot an Object?
Didn't work out so well for him once he actually started driving the damn thing.

>>147025691
It's Nagai, you think he cares about that?

>>147025889
Time for the elite intelligence operatives to go buy a rice cooker isn't it?

>>147025889
>shit talking the best thing to happen to raildex
If it wasn't for him we never would have truly appreciated the goddess known as Saten.

>>147025880
It was definitely implied that a lot of work goes into maintaining the Object status quo, though that's also because Object battles are essentially low casualty duels that are a lot easier to get public support for. Pilots are heavily modified which why they account for 10% of the development costs, but we don't know exactly how much base aptitude affects it.

>>147025880
You can create that function any way you want through the very simple means of primitive biometrics from the 1980's. And it was mentioned in the LN when they're spoken to by a representative from the shadow government. He mentions places to include the pentagon as where the founders of the new order were from.

Also there was something to do with the reactors themselves being nearly unnecessary.

>>147026109
The MIB were full of shit.

>>147026089
Obviously.
Refer to "a shift of warfare from senseless slaughter to battles of materiel appealed to the world leaders"

>Pilots are heavily modified which why they account for 10% of the development costs, but we don't know exactly how much base aptitude affects it
fair

>>147026544
>The MIB were full of shit.
Oh.
That's funny.

>>147026664
Did they actually accomplish anything other than blowing themselves up and talking like twelve year olds?
>“You may call us the Company, Langley, or the Pentagon. When the former world police was lost, our true name lost its power and meaning.”
>“We are the ghosts of a bygone era. But if you wish to refer to us, there is a name you can use. We are the strange shadows dressed in black who are whispered of in every corner of the world. We are MIB.”

>>147026736
They made me laugh and created the Object with the best name even if they didn't name it that.

>>147026664
They were a bunch of chuuni trying to be USA.

>>147026544
Well, it's more that just a battles of materials appealed to the world leaders. It's essentially a way for the various nations to use their cool weapons/toys but with the minimal of guilt. I mean, imagine the awesome battles of WW2 but with the casualties reduced to only 1 person per battle. People want to use all those cool weapons but because of public opinion and politics, it never gets used. The transfer of material is secondary to the people going 'HOLY SHIT, LOOK AT MY FUCKING OBJECT. LOOK AT HOW AWESOME IT IS'.

>>147026874
>Heivia and Quenser are just two bullies breaking everybody's toys
It all makes sense now.

>>147026935
Well, more like they're the ones being bulled by the Objects, but bully not so tough after being dragon-slayed.

>>147023422
why are itsuwa and oriana doing in another series? actually why aren't they the main girls in index?

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10
TOP TIER
4, 6, 9
GOOD TIER
5, 7, 11
AVERAGE TIER
2, 3
LOW TIER
1, 8

>>147026874
No, it's even more than that.
It gives them the ability to seriously wage war on a large scale, without ever actually putting anyone seriously at risk.

Which in turn means that you can resolve any disagreement with an armed conflict.

>>147027178
8 and 5 need to be one tier higher each. Good list, though.

>>147027178
Low Tier ---> High Tier
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10

>>147027178
7 is just as good as 6, but other than that, you nailed it.

>>147025691
>With other characters, it's far more difficult to come up with something interesting
Not him, but while this is probably true relatively, this has never stopped Kamachi from writing absurd sci-fi conspiracy plots in cyberpunk-esque settings. Like he espouses in his guide on how to write, he probably has an entire unused catalog of characters, locations, devices, and other plot elements for specifically these kinds of stories.

>>147027178
>8 low tier
Fuck you, Maryidi bullying by Burning Alpha and the 3rd chapter bring it up to at least average.

>>147025226
>What interesting things could you possibly show using those characters? Tell me what the maids would see on their mission and why we should care about it.

The exactly dame shit the baka duo did. Stop acting like they are super special and everything would fall apart without them.

Some of the best chapters in the series don't even have them for Christ's sake.

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>>147027105
Summoning demons.

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>>147025691
>She goes somewhere with her object, blows shit up, the end.

Anon, the vast majority of people who started watching this wanted exactly that. Cute girls in crazy mechas blowing shit up.

When it turned out to be about two guys who defeat objects through ridiculous plot armor that would make Touma jealous they dropped it.

You like the current formula? Good for you.

But it killed the series for like 90% of people who started watching it.

>>147027793
That's not what they do.
They're spies, not soldiers.

And I seriously doubt that they know enough about how Objects work to destroy one, because why should they? Do they have any reason to know such things?

>>147026736

Kamachi has some really weird impression of US special forces. It was the same in Index.

>>147027961
Good. The less waifufags the better off a fanbase is.

>>147027961
>Cute girls in crazy mechas blowing shit up.
Which has been done to death by other works. You can only do mecha on mecha and cute girls so many times before it gets stale. It's why HO has just a niche appeal. It's something unique.

>>147027970
>And I seriously doubt that they know enough about how Objects work to destroy one, because why should they?
I feel like this is glossing over the fact that while Quenser and Heivia are primarily known for blowing up fifty meter mechs synonymous with war, their line of work doesn't only include Objects.

There are a number of chapters throughout HO that don't even involve any Object combat and only tangentially relate to the subject, if at all. It's a wider setting than you seem to be giving it credit for, it's just that Kamachi leaves it at hints and little tastes because the main premise is rank and file soldiers destroying Objects. It's not because destroying Objects is all there is to see.

>>147028055
He actually has overwhelming respect for the US military. He also probably read some of the stories former military people tell. I mean, go to /k/ and you see some amazing shit (literally) coming from them.

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>>147019727
>>Quenser beating an Object by throwing sand at it.

>>147027970

The methods they destroy objects with are usually so silly anyone could do them.

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>>147028136

That changes nothing about the fact that if we got a spin-off about girls it would sell many times better than the main series.

Just like Railgun did.

And saying that series won't work with other leads is just plain stupid when one of the best volumes had a different lead.

>>147028202
Quenser's line of work is literally "look at that Object and pay close attention to how it works".
Granted Heivia is a radar analyst, but he should also know quite a bit about Objects.

>It's not because destroying Objects is all there is to see.
But because destroying Objects is the best way to show.

>>147028299
How they do it, sure.
Figuring out what they are going to try is another story entirely.

>>147027961
The problem is for that to work is that you either can't do anything crazy without either reverting to the current formula (Quenser telling Hime what to shoot) or giving Hime insane plot armor.

>>147028426
There is plenty to show with Marydi and a lot left to show with her, I'm not complaining about her.

>this will never get a S2

Fuck life.

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>>147028426
Different anon here, to be honest 5 is probably my least favorite. A Maryidi spinoff would only be worthwhile of it involved regular bullying by Burning Alpha.

Why are you guys obsessed with sales, as if it selling more would affect your enjoyment of the material?
>>147028426
Mariydi and the concept of the restricted zone is the only character/concept worth exploring more not related to the main cast. It's why she's getting her own spinoff or whatever that has yet to be released.

>>147028589
There's plenty others.
You can do a lot with Nyarlathotep, there's plenty you can show with one of the Martinis, even Yog-Sothoth might be interesting to see.

>>147028426
And if he did that, it would end up the same shit we've been reading/watching the whole damn time. The same thing /a/ has been complaining as derivative crap every fucking season. If I want cute, I'll watch idol shit, if I want generic mecha crap, I'll watch gundam, if I want two bros blowing shit up and be dicks to each other, I'll read this. I have no fucking idea why you want him to write generic crap that many other LN/WN authors have been flooding the market with.

>>147028299
Anyone can also get instantly vaporized by a Heavy Object. The reason they're so good is largely because modern doctrine considers infantry to be threatless.

>>147028531
>Granted Heivia is a radar analyst, but he should also know quite a bit about Objects.
Heivia is a goddamn super soldier. If Objects weren't a thing he'd be home and married 10 volumes ago.

>>147028687
>I have no fucking idea why you want him to write generic crap that many other LN/WN authors have been flooding the market with
Because Kamachi's take on generic garbage has been exciting and novel every single time so far.
I haven't read his isekai yet, though.

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>>147028687
>it would end up the same shit we've been reading/watching the whole damn time

Except mecha with cute girl pilots is not even that common.

Actually, mecha genre is almost dead outside of Gundam.

>>147028851
He does, but a series relying on a mostly female cast can't have the same "two bros blowing shit up and sexually harassing cute girls" humor since they would have to keep the girls "pure" to whatever standard.

>>147028687
>why you want him to write generic crap that many other LN/WN authors have been flooding the market with

Are you trying to say that Kimchi-sensei writes good and original series? Really?

If one thinks "generic LN harem" Index is the #1 thing that comes to mind.

>>147028531
>Quenser's line of work is literally "look at that Object and pay close attention to how it works".
>Granted Heivia is a radar analyst, but he should also know quite a bit about Objects.
Yes, but this doesn't mean that everything they do revolves around blowing up Objects, or even just Objects as a whole. It usually works out that way because they're soldiers and infamous for that, but other characters don't have that limitation.

Remember when they got shipped out to northern America as part of a shadow unit to recover lithium ingots? There was indeed a threat from the local Information Alliance Object, but their role had nothing to do with fighting it. In the same volume, they were fighting mercenaries to prevent classified information from being leaked to the enemy, except it was a trap to lure out traitors. You could change any Object related details to any other sensitive subject. And so on.

>>147028908
>Actually, mecha genre is almost dead outside of Gundam
wut? Anon, tell me. Just many mecha series has there been in this year alone?

>>147029069
>Remember when they got shipped out to northern America as part of a shadow unit to recover lithium ingots?
Yes, that was a literal suicide mission. The plan was for them to get killed, like everything else that happened in that particular volume.

>>147029094

All of them sold like shit. Literally all of them. Even Macross sells like shit now.

I can't even remember the last mecha anime that sold good.

>>147028978
Let's say you're right (which I'm not agreeing with, but doing so would derail the fuck of this thread), so you want him to write more generic crap? At this point, if you ever complain about yet another Isekai, I'm just going to throw your words right back at you.

>>147029171
Nothing except fujo-bait and idol shit has been selling well lately. It's not just mecha anime that can't compete.

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>>147028426
>keep spamming that Railgun sells better
I'm biting. It's a manga you fucking retard. If Railgun sold less than its LN counterpart it would be a big failure.
>giving a shit about high sales
Go read SAO or Mahouka.

>>147029171
If they keep being made, they're profitable enough.

>>147028978
No, he's extremely unoriginal.
He takes a generic concept and changes something about it.
HO is certainly an original take on mecha. Intellivillage is an original take on all that occult detective shit the market has been floooded with since xxxHolic or whatever it was that started that particular trend. Blood Sign, I haven't read yet. And even Index started out as original take on the magic school genre.

>>147029238

GuP is "fujo-bait and idol shit"?

What sells are all-girls series + fujo pandering show of the season. And the occasional normalfag shonen.

>>147029369
>Index
>magic school
What the fuck

>>147029241

Railgun anime also completely destroy Index in sales.

And when it comes to merch they are not even comparable.

>>147029383
All girl series mostly sell like shit too

>>147029405
Well, kinda.
It's not like you ever see the characters of one of those magic school battle harems going to school either, do you?
He just made an entire city into the magic school.

Known concept + some changes is all he ever does.

>>147029405
It sort of ish is, though espers rather than magic. Thing is, it never focuses on the school part.

>>147029421
Index 2 outsold Railgun S, what are you saying?

>>147029529
It finished when the 2011 tsunami hit too.

>>147029457

Half of them sell like shit and other half are top sellers every season.

Meanwhile LN adaptations and generic harem or mecha are considered giant successes if they sell above 5k.

>>147029575
>Half
Bull fucking shit.
Most of everything seels like shit and only the exceptions do well in every genre there is.

>>147029529

http://dvdbd.wiki.fc2.com/wiki/%E3%81%A8%E3%81%82%E3%82%8B%E9%AD%94%E8%A1%93%E3%81%AE%E7%A6%81%E6%9B%B8%E7%9B%AE%E9%8C%B2

They sold literally the same, while Railgun S1 sold much better.

Railgun S was badly received by Railgun only fans because of too much Touma.

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Please stop responding to the ESL shitposter. It only takes half of a functioning brain to realize who it is you're responding to.

>>147029615

And yet all top sellers for past two years were all girl shows with the occasional fujo pandering with event tickets.

The only exceptions are very well known established franchises with long history.

Do we get spoiler pics of new HO volumes like with Index?

>>147029745
What is Saekano, Kekkai Sensen, Hoozuki no Reitetsu, Shirobako, Mahouka and etc

>>147029671
>Railgun S was badly received by Railgun only fans because of too much Touma.
wut?

>>147029166
>Yes, that was a literal suicide mission. The plan was for them to get killed, like everything else that happened in that particular volume
Which changes nothing about how the conflict and events that went down had nothing to do with them engaging, analyzing, and destroying an Object(s).

Hell, you could ignore Quenser and Heivia's antics entirely and there's still plenty of potential hooks in-series to write plots from. We see a lot of what behind-the-scenes life in Capitalist Corporation safe countries is probably like with say.. Mustard Cowboy and the Technopics. As you'd probably expect, there's a lot of shady money laundering, megacorps, stealing of fortunes, and a huge commercial fixation with sponsorships and advertising. Fuck, the Technopics itself is a technology race and a proxy war, and an example of how a lot of in-series plots merely use Object jousting as a pretense or means of force for whatever organization of the week. Take the child geniuses for example. They weren't a problem because of their Object, but because they were hoarding resources and speeding up the apocalypse of an already consumption-obsessed world.

>>147029772
Yeah, there were spoilers for volume 11 when it came out. I don't know where to find them, though.

>>147029671
>Giving a shit about Railgun only fans

>>147029965
>Shirobako
>not all-girl

Literally all the main characters were female.

And nothing else you listed sold even half as good as Symphogear. Not even mentioning GuP or LL.

>>147030069
>speeding up the apocalypse of an already consumption-obsessed world.
That's not entirely correct. They still have plenty of resources, it's just the peculiarity of how 'peak resource' work. HO-verse had managed to map out every single piece of resource on Earth. Once they know how much resource there is, the countdown of how much resources is left had started, regardless of how much is left. And remember, they have a moon colony and laser-propulsion system for their spacecrafts. They can always just mine the resources off Earth if they ever run out.

>>147030340
>giving a shit about 3/4 of Raildex fanbase

Umm, yes?

Railgun manga sells over 300k. Even more people read it in the magazine.

Latest Index novels struggle to hit 100k.

This franchise runs of Railgun only fags.

>>147030456
And still no one cares about them

>>147030377
Love Live is idolshit and Symphogear might as well be. GuP is your only point and it's an exception.

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>>147030456
Yeah man, Railgun is totally more popular than SAO, right?

>>147030456
Nigga, did you just compare sales from a manga to a LN?

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>>147030659
He's pretty much a walking meme at this point. Every time he gets told off he comes back a week or two later with the exact same posts about sales.

>>147030659

And that has anything to do with Railgun only fags being the majority of the fanbase?

>>147030773
And he never posts any pic at all too. I wonder why.

>>147030869
I'm saying you're as relevant as SAO-fags on /a/. Sure, there's a lot more of you, but you're all still massive faggots that loves nigga's cocks up your asses.

>>147030869
How does that matter when Railgun is just an add-on to Index?