Has anime really been getting worse over the past few years?

>>146929678
yes

Absolutely.

No, only the fanbase.

>>146929678
No.

>>146929970
Yes, and that goes triple for the fanbase.

With the exception of Kyousougiga, yes

>>146929678
/a/ has.
and since you base your opinions and everything you think is a parroting of everything we say, sure why not.

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On average, yes. Basically, we have A LOT of animes being made per season nowadays. So, we get many bad ones and a few good ones.
Some years ago, we would have way less shows being made, which means less bad shows, but also means less good shows.
In the end, the average quality of anime has been going down, but we do get more good animes per year.

yes

its apparent when shows like "re:zero" are the hottest new thing

even SAO is better than that tripe

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>>146930134
>animes

>>146930134
>animes

>>146930195
animes'sssssss
Now go sue me.

Anime has been getting better
We have been getting worse

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>>146930288
>animes'sssssss

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>>146930288
Papers are in the mail.

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>>146929678
Yes, sadly

>>146930312
anime is not getting better

there are no meaningful shows anymore

everything is the same, generic fantasy action shit that appeals to the lowest of the low

and nobody watches that shit either, and generic SoL garbage sells the best

there is no inbetween, everything is shit.

>>146930378
this desu
/a/ is going to disagree with you though

Yes, and the fanbase is unsalvageable at this point. I unironically think /v/ is a better board than /a/ now.

I wonder if this is what people in their 20s thought about us before 2010.

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>>146929678
Yes because anime fan's standards have been getting lower. These days all people want are moe, light novels, shonen, and waifus.

No. Every year of anime had bad shows and 'moe'. Going back to the 1960s. If anything, more shows have also given us more good shows.

The industry has been declining more and more, but there's always a few interesting shows every year. Also movies don't seem to be ruined by the industry in the same degree.

If Japan ever comes out of their 25 year old recession, I bet the industry will revitalise. There are just too much risk doing something new and exiting to make interesting shows nowadays. We'll just have to hope PA Works save anime as well as they can, they're about the only company who dare do things differently.

But Re Zero is the best anime we've had since Madoka.

>>146931870
Please stop /v/. Even though anime finally gave you a "save and load" cartoon, you've been pushing it lately. Go play Reunion or something, that's a proper save and load game.

https://youtu.be/dCMOwh_0Fwc

>>146929678
No just adaptations.

It has always been shit.

>>146931733
Recessions don't last 25 years. It's the new normal.

It was always shit for the most part.

I'd drop it and read literature if i wasn't such a dumb piece of shit that should kill himself.

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Not really. We had a couple amazing years (2010-2012) so now the past three or 4 years seem bad compared to them.
Kyoani puts out something amazing every year though, so I'm perfectly content with the state of anime.

>>146931733

The anime industry has been on decline since its peak in 2006. But its still doing exponentially better than it did anytime between 1960-2000.

If anything, the anime industry is just stabilizing. Making a few less shows per studio to match BD sales. You can't make 20 shows a year and expect each one to sell well.

>>146932617

>Kyoani puts out something amazing every year though
Animation wise, sure. Story and character wise, HAHAHAHAHA!

>>146933191
delete this

>>146929678
anime is for normalfags now

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>>146933848

Why?

>>146929678
/a/ is now full of crossboarders shilling their shit generals. Also doesn't help the mods cater to these faggots.

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>>146932617
>Not really. We had a couple amazing years (2010-2012) so now the past three or 4 years seem bad compared to them.

Really think you are on to something, not saying that there have been no good shows since then, but still. We might be a bit spoiled.

>>146929678
Sawako a cute
Season 3 never

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>>146933191
2003: Fumoffu
2005: TSR
2006: Haruhi
2007: Lucky Star
2009: K-On!
2010: K-On!!/Disappearance
2011: Nichijou/K-On! movie
2012: Hyouka
2013: Tamako Market
2014: Tamako Love Story
2015: Hibike
2016: Koe no Katachi/Hibike S2

The only years they didn't put out something amazing were 2008 and 2004, and both had Keyshit.

>>146934370
>both had Keyshit.
Wait Air was 2005, nevermind.

>>146929678
No. Same shit every year. Even in the 90s they were saying anime was shit now and reminiscing about the "good old days".

>>146932229
>/v/

So if someone likes an anime you don't they're from a different board? That sounds like something a /v/ermin would do.

>>146929678
Not really. It got worse in the late 00s with oversaturation of moe but it has gotten better since. There's a greater variety of shows nowadays.

No.

>>146933067
>The anime industry has been on decline since its peak in 2006
Not actually true. There was a sharp decline toward the end of the 00s (as there was for most industries, because of whole global recession thing), but for the last six years it's actually been a period of stability and minor growth.

>>146932373
>It's the new normal.
It's actually anything but. Japan's economy is profoundly interesting because it's not behaving like an economy should behave.

Economies always tend to rise, more in good periods and less in bad ones, but they always tend towards growth. There are periods of slumps or shrinkage but that is always due to some factors stopping or reversing the natural growth, But Japan is fascinating because it's experienced essentially 0 growth over the past 25 or so years which is really really unusual. Other economies have imploded, most famously Zimbabwe but also Brazil, and some economies have slumped but rebounded but Japan's economy is essentially frozen.

Yes, this year is by far the worst ever.
Even 2015 had better shows

>>146934370
>Fumoffu
>K-On!
>Hibike
nope, try again

>>146930378
Fuck you, 90's fantasy anime all used the same general designs you could barely tell the difference between each show because of how generic the designs were. At least now they look different.

Yes and so has /a/.

>>146935409
What would anime look like if Japan broke out of its coma economy

It feels like it. 2011 is a notably good year though.

approx 1995 - 2005 feels like the golden age of anime, but then again I think those exact same years are the golden age of videogames so I'm probably just a cunt for nostalgia.

Anime has always been very derivative - if you go through the releases of each season from like 1980 onwards, you can see a lot of instances where a notable anime comes out and then for the next half a decade or so, a huge amount of shows are just shameless bad rip-offs.. But it does feel like the problem of a lack of creativity and originality in anime is worse now than it was 20 years ago. Feels like we've got about 5 character archetypes that form the cast of pretty much every show these days, it's unbearable.

>>146935898
/a/ is far worse than modern anime these days. I have no idea why i come here anymore

>>146929678
Yes. With the production becoming cheap and easy every kind of trash gets an anime, in other words: 60+ anime per season and at least 56 dropped.

>>146934370

But 3/4 those shows just proved my point. Amazing animation but horrible flow, plot or characters.

I think anime is following the same trend that video games have. At first you have people pouring their heart and soul into it and create really awesome stuff that people love and they get rich. Once business men smell that there's money to be made, they create "the formula" to mass produce large quantities of anime as cost effectively as possible. As quality declines so to do sales. As sales drop they cut back on quality even more. Customer confidence is lost and big businessmen no longer can afford t do business. This gives room for small indie companies to step into the spotlight. However as the big businesses are no longer capable of producing on their own, they rely on consuming smaller businesses to stay alive.

This is the life cycle of entertainment media. I'll let you decide how far along the anime industry is.

>>146937327

Both anime and video games hit their first 'business model' point much earlier than now. You can claim anime hit that in the 1970s and 80s. While games did it right away with Atari and NES, pretty much the same time as anime did.

What we're seeing today is closer to what >>146933067 pointed out. People in the industry pointed out that anime reached a level no one expected it would in the mid 2000s. A bubble if you will. And now its just stabilizing back to realistic values.

Anyone who says stupid shit like this (i.e. >>146930871) obviously thinks every anime back in the day was Cowboy Bebop when it was mainly kids shows.

The biggest dip in will be after the Olympics.

THe production values on these two shows I'm watching right now are pretty terrible but I'm enjoying myself. Mob Psycho 100 and Time Travel Shoujo. Am I the only one watching these? I never see threads about them.

What shows this year have good production values? Good animation seems to be dissapearing.

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>>146938921
>Mob Psycho 100
>bad production values

>>146938921
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