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Who's the true protagonist of each part? Pic related.

>http://pastebin.com/CJPJP2Hi
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>>146899203
1. JoJo
2. JoJo
3. JoJo
4. JoJo
5. GioGio
6. JoJo
7. JoJo
8. JoJo

Go to the other thread.
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Reminder that gappyfag got blown out
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>>146899203
1. Dio
2. Joseph
3. Polnareff
4. Koichi first half, Rohan second half
5. Bruno
6. Pucci
7. Gyro
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Gappy makes me happy
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New episode of jojolion when?
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>Preview when????
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>>146903549
>>146904095
never
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPx-nUqLMtc
>[Sheer Heat Attack: Don't Stop Me Now]?

SHA drops it's NO WEAKNESS XD! For insane speed, flight and the ability to turn on the head of a pin.
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Get a heart attack:
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1501123
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https://youtu.be/4rBwPpFFBPs
Cool,kq did the pose
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>one more episode closer to based VENTO AUREO

hype trains has no breaks.
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>>146907940
>yfw the anime is cancelled before that happens
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So we're all in agreement that
Avdol > Polnareff > Kakyoin > Iggy right?
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Jonathan, Goku and Kenshiro get into free for all fight. Who wins?
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>>146907970
that will happen for 6 and 7. i will get my 5 atleast.
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For Speedreaders who say hamon and the stone masks aren't related to stands.
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>>146907813
>catch the cancer.png
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>>146908001
I really hope they'll get enough momentum for 6 to be done as well just for completion's sake.
But yeah, chances for 7 happening are low.
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>>146907976
Dog is better than nigger.
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>>146908013
i still don't like jesus as the means of gaining stands. araki asspulling as usual.
>cant think of a new story for stands origin in the alternate universe
>lets put jesus.
with the meteorite, atleast you could discuss where it came from, what were the microbes, etc?
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>>146908113
There are no blacks in the crusaders though.
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>>146907998
Goku.
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>>146908140
Avdol is black, Pucci is tanned.
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>>146908084
idk.
>make profit on part 5
>blow it on making part 6.
doesn't seem worth it for dp. but would be happy if they make it to give series a proper end.
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>>146908137
There's still no guarantee we won't learn more about Jesus in JJL though. We didn't learn about the origins of the Arrows in the Part they were introduced in so it might be the same for SBR/JJL. Since Araki has seemingly planned out JJL from the beginning he might have had some things he purposefully held out on revealing in SBR specifically as plot threads to tie the later Parts into it.
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>>146908165
Avdol is an Arab and Pucci is naturally dark skinned as evidenced by the shading in the manga but Shueisha decided HEY THIS CHARACTER IS SLIGHTLY DARKER SKINNED THAN THE REST OF THE CAST LETS MAKE HIM FUCKING BLACK AS THE ACE OF SPADES DESPITE NOT BEING BLACK IS LITERALLY AN IMPORTANT PART OF HIS BACKSTORY and it stuck in almost all of the other coloured media.
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>>146908187
you will learn about what happened to corpse after the race. where is it in japan, etc.
jesus origins are a dead end. he was the son of god ofcourse.
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>>146901405
I'm surprised Gappy is the actual protagonist of Jojolion. In any other part it would be Joshuu or Yasuho.
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>>146908249
Who is Gappy.
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>>146908325
Read the manga and find out.
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>>146908249
gappy is cool, m8.
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>>146908345
Is he JoJo?
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>>146908236
But which god?
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>>146908229
I'm pretty sure that Araki isn't some helpless button who sat there and sobbed while evil Shueisha racebended his character into being black against his will. There were any number of times he could've spoken up about it, and he never did. And Pucci is visibly black in figures, games etc too.

Araki tends to color black characters extremely pale, look at Avdol here. Doesn't mean he's white, even though the white characters are coloured pretty much the same as him. And while the backstory of Pucci and Wes involved some weird race shit, the thing that enraged them was a supposedly black guy being in a relationship with a white girl rather than just Wes being supposedly black.
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>>146908509
who is that supposed to be?
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>my sister just died because of me
>oh wait remember that gay vampire i met once in a church years ago? i must meet him
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>>146908628
better than valentine's sudden patriotic outburst
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>>146908628
To be fair, DIO is inhumanly hot and charismatic. And hadn't he been going on about fate shit when Pucci met him in the church? In his darkest moment I could see why his mind would spring to anything that could make him seem less responsible for his actions.
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>>146904262
Why are there at least four Josukes in Jojolion?
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Has anyone ever fucking questioned the pointy bits on diego's pants?
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>>146908727
They're old riding breeches.
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>>146908809
Well I'm pretty fucking stupid, never really read into horse riding even though I'm pretty interested.
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>>146908809
>>146908727
Imagine if his thighs were just that shape
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rBwPpFFBPs
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>>146908840
dear god
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>>146908846
thanks doc
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>>146908846
The found the budget!
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>>146908846
>Killer Queen becoming less drugged up and more expressionless as time goes on

I'm ok with this
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>>146908978
Is David actually learning?
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>>146899203
1. Elizabeth I
2. Bruto
3. Prince, Michael & Lionel, Avdol's chickens
4. Lady Murakami
5. The woman who performed an autopsy on Diavolo
6. Charlotte
7. Danny, the mouse
8. Josuke, Yasuho's dog
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>>146909078
Is there any porn of Avdol fucking his chickens
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They'll end it with Part 5 lads. Stop being delusional over Pucci being animated, it's not gonna happen
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>>146908846
Can't wait to see Kakyoin in tomorrow's episode
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>>146909146
They'll end it with Part 3 lads. Stop being delusional over Kira being animated, it's not gonna happen
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>people still arguing about whether or not David will go to Part 6

It literally depends on how well it sells.

Just buy the blue of part 4 when it hits shelves.
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They'll never make a JoJo anime, remember that horrible accident of an OVA?
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Who was killed by Soundman ?
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>Implying JoJo will ever be animated
It's better just as a manga, animating it would kill it.
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ヘパリーゼ good
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Diavolo may not be very deep, but he's fucking terrifying. Top 3 villains material, right next to part 3's Dio and Pucci.
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>Implying part 5 is confirmed yet
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>>146908840
That would require some kind of fucked up leg day regimen
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>>146909196
They'll end it with Part 2 lads. Stop being delusional over Tower of Grey being animated, it's not gonna happen.
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>>146909354
There was DP insdier who confirm this.
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He was made for sex.
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I don't like Kira's anime design...
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>>146909268
>implying Araki will end Baoh to draw another manga
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>>146909552
>implying Araki will stop drawing is money maker Gorgeous Irene
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>>146909480
Did he post any sort of proof?
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>>146909587
>Implying Araki will draw something after his masterpiece Poker Under Arms
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Todays poll just wants a quiet life
http://www.strawpoll.me/11179831
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>>146909618
>Implying Araki will ever write a manga
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>>146909646
>implying someone named Hirohiko Araki will ever born
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>>146909632
Technically speaking, every wrong thing Pucci ever did never happened.

Pucci really did do nothing wrong.
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>>146909671
even*
i hate my phone
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>>146909632
Hmm
>all of them have committed countless atrocities, murders, criminal acts
>except kira, who has killed exactly 58 people and leads a fairly respectful life apart from it
Hmm, I wonder
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Part 5 with girl gio chan confirmed.
i am a high level insider at DP. announcement in february
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>>146909689
Works both ways, autismanon
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>>146909719
Nice
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>>146909756
it just works ?
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Is it really fair to judge Pillar-Men by human standards?

I mean, humans are their natural prey. It isn't exactly fair to say that they're evil for eating them, is it? And in spite of easily having the chance to, they never made any known attempts to dominate or exterminate humanity, they honestly didn't give a shit about humans unless they got in their way.
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>>146909719
girl gio gio would be best.
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>>146909632
Everyone not voting for Kars is a fucking idiot. He did the exact opposite of wrong
>Just wanted to chill in the sunlight with his bros
>Saved a puppy
>Killed evil nazis
>Humanity would probably benefit from his advanced Ultimate Lifeform IQ, since he was a natural researcher

Joseph was the actual bad guy
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>>146902498
Joshuu makes ME happy
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>>146909719
>>146909762
>>146909795
>Giorno is a bland boy who only exists to inspire the others with his freakish charisma and natural leadership skills
>People whine
>Girono is a bland girl who only exists to inspire the others with her freakish charisma and natural leadership skills
>People whine
If Giorno was a girl then the fandom would probably still be bitching about what a Mary-Sue she was.
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>>146909828
>Girono is basically Medaka
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>>146909771
>humans are their natural prey
If my memories of BT are right its not even that. They just happened to be the thing that ate what hunted humans and got annoyed that Hamon existed.

I'm fairly sure if Kars had killed Joseph he probably would have just chilled out on a mountain somewhere and question why people were still coming up his mountain to try and kill him.
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My knowledge of Italian is limited but isn't Giovanna the feminine name of Giovanni?
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>>146909883
Yep
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>>146909856
The Nazis talk about how pillar-men evolved to eat humans, and they're the ones that had been actively studying them from what texts and so on remained.

But yeah, while Kars wanted to wipe out hamon-users, he didn't want to do the same for humanity in general. And after he got to his ultimate life-form status I doubt he'd even care about them either, considering himself too powerful to be threatened by them.
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>>146909904
I see, so he's so gay that he has a girl's name. Kek
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>>146909828
it doesn't matter anon.

Giorno is fucking fabulous.
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>>146901300
>toryu
wew
blew it
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>>146909912
>The Nazis talk about how pillar-men evolved to eat humans
Didn't one of the pillar men correct this by saying they ate vampires who feasted on the humans? Or am I just shit at remembering Araki Science?

I do wonder how ULF Kars would have reacted to Stands though. I imagine he'd have a passing curiosity at the very least.
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>>146908013
We've never really seen them interact except for that one time with Joseph and Empress, which didn't work because they were part of the same body, but I'd like to think that hamon fighters can hit Stands if they're ripplepunching.
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>>146908566
>tfw no more Jojoniums
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>>146909963
>>146909912
They eat humans and vampires
But Vampires are like better and more nutritious food.
1 human=regular
1 vampire eat 10 humans= Tasty
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When you first read Jojolion, did you fall for the fake-out of Joshuu being the hero of Part 8?
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>>146910057
i was confused af to even remember who the fuck Joshu is
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>>146910057
>Joshu
>The hero of Part 8
Is this a joke?
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>>146909963
Vampires in the JoJoverse are just humans who had a stone mask used on them, something that Kars invented under 100,000 years ago.

While Kars and his gang prefer to eat vampires (they taste better and provide more energy) vampires are a recent invention in the scale of things. And they don't turn their noses up at normal humans either, Santana ate all those Germans and tried to do the same to Joseph, same with Wamuu.
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>>146910260
>Be Santana
>Sleeps comfy in your pillar
>Some german fuckers feed you with tasteless and cheap blood
>Wake up
>"The fuck is going on here?"
>You're trapped in a weird room
>Try to scape
>Those motherfuckers attack you with guns
>You kill some soldiers but was in self defense
Santana literally did nothing wrong
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>>146909827
Joshuu makes ME horny
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>>146910496
Considering how Stroheim laughed at him for being a savage, Santana was more than justified going on a rampage.
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>>146909921
It's a surname you fucking memester
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>>146910057
what fake-out, retard?
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>>146910496
>>146910592
The pillar men woke up in the wrong century I guess. Dude just kinda got shat on by some jackass who thinks he's clever and a bunch of nazis.
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>>146910496
>Some dumb animal starts making stupid noises at you
>You push it away, it gets mad and attacks
>You fight back against it, get your ass kicked, dragged out into the burning sunlight after having your body blown apart
>After desperately trying to hide you get turned to stone again
>Get kidnapped and imprisoned by more humans
>Get completely forgotten about
>Never find out where your dads and brother are or what happened to them
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Is arcadefag dead?
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>>146910703
Nope, he's just visiting his grandma. If you see him it's his ass of a roommate, probably
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>>146910665
>Never find out where your dads and brother are or what happened to them
For some reason i just imagine Santana calling Wamuu "Aniki"
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>>146907845
>It's another BUDGET episode
>Killer Queen looks amazing
>That pose
>Koichi's "I'LL BE WAITING FOR YOU IN HELL" at the end
TOMORROW WILL BE 10/10
B U D G E T E P I S O D E.
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>>146910592
>>146910643
In Joseph's defense, Joseph initially sympathized with Santana, pointing out how it was the Germans who'd woken him up and imprisoned him, and that he wasn't a bad guy for striking back. And he made an active attempt to befriend the guy and show him he wasn't a threat.

Santana actively ignored him and then attacked (admittedly with some provocation) when he kept trying to talk to him, then cemented his place as an asshole when he experimentally attacked the helpless Speedwagon.
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>>146910734
>>146910665
>>146910496
I just realized that Santana is the last pillar men still alive, for all we know, hes still in Speedwagon custody, turned to stone under some UV lights, forgotten about
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>>146901405
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>>146910788
>Bohemian Rhapsody Mayhem
>One of the guards was reading a comic/manga
>Insertrandomfuckerhere.sfx
>turn off UV lights
>Santana wakes up
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>>146910788
I feel bad for the guy. I hope he's not conscious, otherwise that'd be a Kars-tier punishment just for killing a handful of fucking Nazis.
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>>146901300
>toryu
what did he mean by this?
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>>146910788
He's now SPW-003
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I want Iggy to stuff his juicy dog cock into my throat,fucking my little mouthpussy while clawing my eyes out.
I want to swallow his sweet doggy ejaculation to the last drop and have his piss all over me like the little bitch that I am.
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>>146910952
Eras this
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i'm going to sleep soundly this day
Goodbye /Jojo/
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>>146910952
real talk: iggy's voice in the anime gave me a boner

why couldn't they have stuck with the ASB voice
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>>146910843
>>146910850
>>146910869

Part of me wants him to make a slow but gradual return and wake up in a world filled with stand users, but the other half of me says that it wouldn't really fit and would feel out of place to bring back the whole vampire pillar man

Would he fit in the latest JoJo stuff?
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>>146908013
>Stone masks post SBR should now be interpreted to be an awful tool at making a stand.

That's one way of filling in the differences and plot holes. A bit clunky overall.

>Ultimate gains mechanism though.
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>>146910952
I know you're trying to piss off Naranciaposter(-kun) but he's not here now, so shhh
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>>146907970
Part 5 might not be cancelled because female Japanese high schoolers love part 5's boy men. This is mainly due to merchandise sales.
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>>146910952
Considering Iggy's stamina he will fuck you for hours
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>>146911014
If by "Latest" you mean Part 8, then yes. He could be somehow related to the Rock Humans and fit in rather nicely that way.

If by "Latest" you mean Part 6, however, I'd say he's side novel material at best.
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>>146911014
His abilities are pretty stand-like, he's very similar to Yellow Temperance for instance. I could see him being a minor villain that way.

But overall he'd probably feel a bit out of place, the series largely moved away from inhuman creatures as enemies. While Jojolion has the Rock Humans, they're a lot more human than the Pillar-Men were, they're easily able to pass as normal humans and sometimes have done so for years.
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>>146911074
>Pucci's best soldier
>The PillarMen he stole from the SPW
>He put a memory disc inside him
>2puwerful4astanddisc
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Enjoy your Bowie Kira this Friday. You won't see him again until the end
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>>146911125
Jojo was about Inhuman creatures and later about Inhuman humans
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>>146911155
His second and third forms are superior
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>>146911074
>>146911125

That could actually work wonders now that i think about it

>Santana breaks free, though not fully regenerated and in a semi rock form
>Once isolated he is found by some cultists or explorers and due to the nature of his rock body, he sucks them in and turns them to stone
>Said people break out of the stone, turned fully into rock humans
>Rock humans worship Santana and help him slowly get the blood and power he needs to regenerated his body
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>>146911160
Yeah, Araki talked about how he switched from hamon vs monsters to stand-users vs stand-users because he found it more interesting.
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>>146911179
>yfw Santana is the main villain of Part 8
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>>146911179
>The rockhumans are Santa's descendants
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>We get to see Kira fixing Koichi's sock with great animation this Friday
What a time to be alive
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>>146911179
SBRverse =/= Originalverse
Fuck off with your shitty fanfic
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>>146911179
It'd be cool if the Rock Humans and the Pillar Men had some sort of connection. And Santana having some rock groupies would be fun too.
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>>146908137
>i still don't like contact with the Son of God as the means of awakening a soul' sinner potential. araki asspulling as usual
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So is jotaro beating him to a pulp not gonna show this week?
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>>146911225
While he has recyled the pillar men concept into something new, I think we won't see Santana as the main villain. Consider the whole hibernation thing as a new element, also they don't seem as op as the super mayan(pilliar men before putting on the stone mask) race. I mean humans didn't worship them out of fear. They seem to be pushed to the fringes of society thanks to expansion of human cities.

It will probably be a rockman we haven't even meet before, with some new objective that is "for others" like Pucci and Valentine.
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What is the most THICC Stand?
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>>146911331
Notorious B.I.G
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>>146911313
No way they're 3 partering SHA. Break your face will be this week. It'll end on Kira escaping and Aya dying.
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>>146911322
I like to think that the rockmen is the alternate universe of the pillar men in some way
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>>146911257
This, Araki recycles the concept but they should be viewed as different races.

I wonder what the mains villians objective will be. Consider that the goals of the last two villians have been for the benefit of other people.
Valentine's was for "justice/murrica"
Pucci's was to bring "heaven" to all mankind

What will part 8's Villains have as their goal ?
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>>146909818
B-But Joseph is my favorite JoJo
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>>146911133
Beautiful
>>146911155
>>146911175
Pretty much
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Cute!
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>>146911175
Bowie Kira > Awakened Kosaku > Deadman Kira > Kosaku
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>>146911322
>>146911262
>>146911257
>>146911252
>>146911252
Rock Men do have pillar men like sleeping patterns in there hibernation phase
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>>146911493
female josuke's hair is shit
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>>146911068
>part 5's boy men

Weren't they just, ya know, boys? I think the only adult members of Passione were Bruno and Abachio.
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>>146911499
Anon, the sign you're looking for is < in this case
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what if pucci died here of head trauma
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>>146911376
Pretty much this, I mean look at the "spin" in comparison to "hamon."
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>>146911302
>hey, i can only pull off simple stories
>umm, how to re-introduce stands without looking stupid or plotholes?
>here have jesus. you cant discuss anything now or question anything. he is the son of god and is fucking magical.
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>>146911526
Again, it's a different universe. There are similarities from the hibernation but we don't know if the super mayans from the original universe did this

Kars et'al may of been able to do it because they were super mayan vamps.

SBR universes rock men are not the same as the original universes pillar men.
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>>146911574
>Diavolo actually looks like the only one with enough muscle to punch someone to the floor.
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>>146899203
she was the true villain, she stole the corpse at the 11th hour
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>>146911800
Did you miss the part where Jesus is the entire reason Valentine starts the race?
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>>146911850
it could have been anything. just collect the parts of meteorite or meme arrow and it would have been same. or may be he could have thought of something new and better.
literally went the laziest way and plebs go fucking wow. "OMG, its' jesus christ".
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>>146911850
Yes he did, because he's a speed reading faggot.
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>>146911941
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>>146911941
Did you also forget this is an alternate universe, which is the only universe where the corpse of Jesus exists?
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At what point did you realise Jojo is the Evangelion of anime?
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Trace edit shit thing I did so far
I'm too lazy to make an effort drawing from scratch, I just desperately want to visualize the Jojolion cast in DiU anime style
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>>146912011
The Evangelion of anime?
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>>146911990
Watch out, that stand is [White Whale] It's a powerful Bait based stand. It makes the user come off as an idiot, when they're in actuality a retarded sadist.
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>>146911800
>stands being given by a historical miracle-worker who is God Himself sent to Earth for the express purpose of teaching men to see the reality of Creation through Him is stupid and means nothing to me
>it was so deep how the arrows were made from a rock that fell out of the sky
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>>146911990
I am saying that he could not think of a better way to introduce the source of stands in SBR. He made the corpse and jesus as the source of ability/stands cause lazy writing and jesus meme.
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>>146912011
D E E P E S T
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>>146909261
I thought it was the japanese dude but I don't know either.
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>>146912011
>Killer Queen's face
He's so spooked
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Anyone translated the preview yet?
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>>146912036
Continue.
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>>146912105
>He made the corpse and jesus as the source of ability/stands cause lazy writing and jesus meme.
If Araki had made the source of stands in SBR Pingu the fucking penguin, would you be happy?

Jesus/God being a stand user/creator is hell of a lot better than magic rocks.
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>>146912105
>cause lazy writing and jesus meme
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There! That's it! Why can't Killer Queen always look like this?
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>>146912214
>If Araki had made the source of stands in SBR Pingu the fucking penguin, would you be happy

It would be fucking hilarious.
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>>146912088
as i said, araki cant do complex stories and thats not his speciality. might do that in part 8 though.
rocks falling from the sky is simple and decent for jojo. literally thrusting god is way lazy.
>it was so deep
there is nothing deep in jojo. it's pretty straight forward and mostly fun series.

this is also the reason, araki wont do or cant do a jojo part in future or cyberpunk jojo. he is a talented man but also a hack.
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>>146912228
I honestly like the other version more, this is too cute/silly.

The other looks more menacing.
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>>146911941

Wtf? Incorporating Jesus Ito the plot IS new for Jojo. You have beef with Christianity, don't you? Btw Jesus' incorporation into SBR directly contradicts Christianity.
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>>146912228
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>>146911133
why does killer queen look different in every scene
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>>146912276
>rocks falling from the sky isn't lazy
>Jesus being introduced as a source for stands is lazy

This fucking guy.
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>>146912214
would rather take pingu penguin as the source of stands, if he can explain it.
jesus is the same asspulling as GER shit, or that love train shit. fucking ruined D4C.
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>>146911817
I'm not saying there the same or anything, but just this universes version of Pillar men
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>>146904095
>>146908846
>>146912210

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rBwPpFFBPs

Koichi:The person who has been committing murders in this town for many years was you!

Kira:This is the first time I've been cornered so much. I respect you. But I won't let you defeat me easily... Killer Queen!

Koichi and Kira:URYAAAAAAAA!
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>>146912291
All I want it the forehead line removed. It probably costs more to draw it than to leave it out.

>>146912281
It's supposed to look cute, despite it having such a terrifying power. It perfectly reflects Kira, in the sense that he's a very attractive, normal looking guy, but actually a serial killer.
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>>146912337
Well Kar'et al aren't coming back. So like I don't think Santo is coming back at all.

I'm sorry. The overswole is never coming back. Rock men don't have those colossus muscles of the Pillar men. We must live with this.
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>>146912276
I think that Araki won't to a cyberpunk Jojo because of to other reasons

>cyberpunk is dead
And
>it's probably much easier to kill someone with a handheld particle accelerator than with a spirit warrior

>>146912335
GER I can accept because it was literally the only thing that could beat KC. Jesus makes hella more sense that magic rocks.
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>>146912324
again
you can speculate something with the meme arrow/meterorite. was it from ayy lmaos or were there microbes on them?(i think he mentioned microbes somewhere with arrows)
jesus is just a dead end.
>it's jesus, you know who jesus is
>son of god, he is magical and stuff.
>he gives power
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1. Jonathan
2. Joseph
3. Again
4. Koichi / Jotaro
5. Bruno
6. Jolyne
7. Gyro
8. That chick with pink hair
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>>146912335
Yeah? Well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man. And it's shit.
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>>146912394
Yea i know sadly

The age of twinks hit us the day part 7 came out
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Why didn't Kira and Kosaku's faces and fingerprints switch back when Aya died? Are the effects of Cinderella permenent but Aya was adding a time limit so she could make money?
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>>146911941
>>146912105
>>146912335
SBR wasn't originally JoJo because the weekly magazine wanted Araki to do something fresh. It started off as its own thing. It only became JoJo Part 7 when he switched over to the monthly magazine, so when introducing Stands he had to make it something that was already present in the story. It may have turned out different if it were JoJo from the very beginning.
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>>146912408
>this guy
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>>146912426
Are you naming the main characters of each part? Because the main character of Part 3 is Polnareff, not Joseph.
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>>146911552
Just like the original
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>>146912430
>What is part 5
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>>146912408
>magic microbes are more plausible than God himself

I'm pretty sure I'm being baited, so I'm gonna post Dreamscopes and R63 from here on out.
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>>146912506
God I fucking hate Fugo's stupid fucking suit so much.
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>>146912276

>Araki is dumb and he sucks so anything meaningful he puts into the story is lazy!

You're making such a poor argument. Go back to Stardust Ccrusaders you sad cuck.
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Why do animeonlies love Joseph so much?
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>>146912527
Bruh, you been caught.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMsGTEuCQCU

Would you watch Part 7 in this artstyle?
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>>146912582
Maybe if it was animated better.
I can't really tell because while it's good, it's not at a professional level.
>inb4 kill me queen edits.

God though with that soundtrack and the way these guys directed the trailer, I could dig it.
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>>146912560
Because in the >dub his voice actor is fucking hilarious. His dialogue in general is pretty funny. He's just a funny guy, and people like funny guys.

>>146912570
Damn.
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>>146912582
Yes, if it weren't so janky.

>yfw David bases their SBR colours off of the colour scans
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>>146912213
Here's what I've done so far. Putting weight on lines and not making it look obviously traced is pretty tricky
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>>146912636
Even before the dub people loved him. My favourite JoJo is Jolyne, but I still love Joseph's dub voice. I feel like it suits him better than Sugita, honestly.
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Is it the same guy who comes in and makes purposely arguments and defends then poorly each time? Is the guy whining about Jesus the same guy who wanted to rewrite Part 4?
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Is piece of trash-ese an actual language?
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>>146912636
Fuck this Dub's quality varies so much.

Pros
>Joseph sounds like a mischievous harry potter. This comes off as jaring at first but ends up as being fucking hilarious.
>Due to him having a voice in English a lot more meaning comes across in what he does
>They don't translate the untranslatable, just use a similar joke for context. replacing "happy-yurpy" with Joseph joking Santy could be a model.
>Kars got his ultimate lifeform scream right.
>Multi accent cast helps give a sense of cultural difference to all the characters.

Cons
>Stronhiem's voice sucks
>All the Pillar men sound like Jobber voice actors doing native american accents. They don't have that sheer deep masculinity in the jap version. Wham's English voice is pretty good though.
>Ceaser sounds alright, but not amazing.
>Straits has an English voice but all other foreigners get their own accent, which seems like an oversight.
>Speedwagon no longer speaks in fake cockney
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>>146912667
Papa-Higashikata looks on point. Give Yasuho. Someday.
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>>146912772
I'm fairly sure he is the guy who accuses people of being from reddit. He also always posts two anime girl reaction images after each accusation.

Making it look like two different people yelling at the person he is trying to bait. Or he makes multiple posts telling someone to fuck off.

>What a scary bait stand.
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>>146912276
You can just say anything involving God gets your fedora in a bunch, I'd understand; but saying a meteor giving people magic is more logical than God doing so is just hilariously dumb.
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>>146912276
>This trolls catch after a long day of baiting.
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>>146912288
Not mormonist faith though. The book of mormon is literally canon in the SBRverse
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>>146912928
>I-I was baiting haha

Sure friend.
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>>146912992
It's clear the bait train has no breaks.

Remember people, you can always hide the posts.
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>>146912276

>cyberpunk Jojo

Muh dik
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>>146911663
GG stone free
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>>146912801
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXF0dwG8VaE
Should of posted this along with it.
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>>146913022
You can't hide all the stupidity.
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>>146912179
It's pure fucking pain as Killer Queen itself realizes its being torn to absolute shit.
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>>146912801
I thought Esidisi was the only bad Pillarman. I loved Kars' voice.

We're getting a new dub, anyway, so whatever.
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>>146912221

Yes, because Araki is well known for his thoroughly thought out writing...

He later died of a cold
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>>146913103
This trolls pretty good at illogical arguments. It's a shame so many people including myself have feed him.
>We should just ignore him till he starves and leaves.
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>>146913132
>were getting a new dub

??
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>>146913147
why are you butchering perfect panels with memescope?
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>>146913179
Viz bought the rights to the dub from WB and they're redoing it. It's premiering on Toonami next month.
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>>146913249
It looks pretty. It's fine if you don't like it anon.
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>>146913098
>Cockney Speewagon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2AOLPAdZdc
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>>146913277
>that looks pretty.
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>>146913277
>>146913147
>>146913103
I want more of these.
Please.
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>>146913423
Dreamscope works best with images with a lot of detail, but not too much detail.
Jewel is the best filter, but a there are other good ones.
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>>146913423
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>>146913492
I wonder how jarring it would be if someone had a stand where everything within a small radius of said stand was Dreamscoped
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>>146908978
URRRRIIIIIIDGE
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>>146912667
Sorry for the dumping, I just really like how it's coming so far.

I don't know if any of you seen it but I was also the one who did the Lips-chan Jolyne edit.
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>>146912228
Perfect
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>>146913748
>Lips-chan Jolyne edit
holy shit i see it now
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>>146913748
>lips-chan Jolyne edit
I don't want to be that guy but can you please repost it? I need it in my life
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>>146913815
It's pretty old, but here you go.
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DURRRRR
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>>146913594
It would be a bitch to animate, I'll tell you that.
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>>146913882
Excellent, anon
>>146913748
Is looking great too
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>>146913971
Another name for that stand would be
>[BUDGET KILLER]
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>>146912011
Araki is Anglican, it's pretty obvious.
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>>146914046
Wasn't there an interview where he basically said he's a Spinozan (without actually using the word)?
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>>146912408
This answer doesnt make any sense
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>>146914046
>Anglican

Source on this. Googles coming up with nothing.
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>>146913748
Tsurugi looks way too old
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>>146899203
DIO makes me CUMo
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>>146914181
I don't know how younger "girls" look like in the anime so far, but I'll try to make him look younger.
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>>146914240
>Those muscles on the world.
>Diving suit can barley contain them.
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>>146909848

Medaka is and was made shit

Gio was shit before he became a full-blown GANGSTA niga over time.

Don't compare shit to Gold.
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>>146910145

Stop disbelieving niga accept he's the niga with the triga
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>>146914240
>not even the best DIO
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>>146913748
>>146913882
As great as the edit is, the left eye always bothers me. There's a few little bits that aren't quite right.
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>>146914240
I bet he has a barbed dick like a cat only it would be much more painful
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>>146912532
Same here and the more I think about Mista the more confused I am about his design.

>that weird ass zig-zag and zebra pattern pairing
>that horrid colour combination
>the fucking thick turtleneck sweater which for some reason, leaves his midriff exposed
>those ill fitting pants that are tucked into his boot-socks(?)
>that dumb fucking hat
>doesn't even have a gun holster, just leaves the gun dangling in front of his dick
>a-are those literal women's shoes?
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>>146914495

>Twink Dio that was literally a piece of non-sequitur fan service
>Best anything

Don't mind me, just posting the only villain in the series that had any kind of developed relationship with his protagonist.
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>>146909261
A Mongolian rider called Dot Han... and maybe the people in the farm
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>>146914522
I'm just copying the perspective used in the show, but I'll keep that in mind.
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>>146914626
What about Diavolo, Pucci and Valentine?
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>>146914626
>Developed relationship
Dio was literally just evil for no reason and was a dick to Jonathan for no reason, also you're forgetting Pucci's really well done relationship with Jolyne and Diavolo's thematic relationship with Giorno which are both much better written.
>>
DEE FO'R CHEE
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>>146914862
http://imgur.com/a/O1thc

Read this, Dio's goals are ultimately still selfish but this analysis shows there are lot of reasons he's a such a dick.
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>>146914862
>for no reason
t. sped through phantom blood to get to stands
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I don't like jojo but I want to have sex with Johnny Joestar
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>>146914696
Oh, that's all fine. I mean that there literally is parts of her left eye around the reflections that aren't coloured properly.
Also why was that other version so small.
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>>146914919
>ignoring over heaven because it portrays him out of character and actively breaks the canon

Can you explain this, its been a while since I read part 6 and just kind of took what was written as fine
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>>146914552
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Koichi dies tomorrow
Not ready.
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>>146914991
OH. Oops, I am the fucking retard. I didn't notice that.

I tend to resize shit so it would look more "screenshot"-ish. I guess I forgot I posted a large version here before resizing.
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>>146914330
>the only reason DIO lost is because star platinum isn't restrained and he didn't figure out how to be anime enough to break his restraints
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>>146910015
>mfw there will never be a scene where Joseph unexpectedly tries to Zoom Punch Jotaro to test his speed
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>>146915174
What's the scene on the left from? also the thumbnail looks like a ninja
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>>146908840
thicc
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>>146914919
>Needing a huge in-depth guide to give a villain actual "depth"
Pretty much all of Dio's issues revolved around his daddy problems, still doesn't justify at all why he'd want to rule the world nor does it give him any dimension. If Dio was like Stone Ocean Dio right from the beginning he might have been interesting, and Phantom Blood Dio was decent enough but it was all pretty much thrown away with part 3 Dio. The other villains who actually had ties with the protagonists in the rest of the parts executed them much better.
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>>146915107
I guess part 6 tries to give him a greater goal rather than just being "I, DIO AM THE BEST". However doesn't that imgur essay(because holy shit, that's what it is) say that dio's still giving his world view to Pucci by saying one should make their own heaven reality?
So it's still in line with Dio's "Surpass all obstacles".
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>>146910760
>active attempt to befriend him
>HAPPY UREPI YOROPIKUNE

yeah, sure
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>>146912532
>swiss cheese suit
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>>146915263
I'm actually agreeing with you somewhat.

Dio's goals are still "I am bad guy, must rule world and be best". It's just Araki gave some depth to him getting to that state of mind. Which is neat. Dio's ultimate goals still let down his character as villain though.
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>>146915204
I think it's around the time a certain stardust crusader gets a real bad tummy ache
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>>146915463
He's a very fun and iconic villain but he's let down a lot by his main goal. Sure he had an interesting dynamic with Jonathan but that really didn't add much to his character like this anon suggests >>146914626

Pucci's the best villain in the series in my opinion, he has a pretty damn good goal that's justified fully by his own story and he actually had a really good dynamic with Jolyne, he felt like a Joestar himself with how much determination he had to carry his goal in part 6 and it was good enough to rival Jolyne's own determination.
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>>146913262
Shouldn't we get a trailer for this pretty soon? How close to the premier does Toonami usually post trailers or previews?
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>>146915557
I think were on the same wavelength about the main goal letting down his character.

Pucci and valentine seem interesting because as villains they are fighting for others, which sets them apart from a lot of major villains.
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>ASB dialogue and a few pages from before Kars is fully ascendant are the best way to characterize Kars
>the entire part of Battle Tendency failed to characterize Kars better than ASB dialogue and like 3 pages
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>>146915646
Kira's an interesting villain for how toned-down he is in comparison to the others, and how well he works as part 4's antagonist. He's got brilliant characterization overall too.

But I agree, Pucci genuinely feels like the most villain-like character in the series. He actively pursues his goals, whenever he shows up shit ALWAYS goes down and I absolutely love how he's the type of evil that doesn't acknowledge he's evil or enjoys the thought. Valentine as well was a really good villain, being pretty much the only villain who you could justify had a better cause than the protagonist did. I like to think part 6 was when Araki's writing started to develop greatly.

Though it does beg the question, how might the part 8 villain be like?
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>people trying to find depth in a series lacking any depth.
>cant understand it's just a fun and shallow series.
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>>146913492
wait, this is a filter?

Jesus christ. Not to sound like an old man but it's amazing we can do this shit now
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>>146913423
>>146913492
>>146913525
aw shit were we posting dreamscope I didn't notice
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>>146915853
Why couldn't he have died here
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We dreamscope now?
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>>146915107
I think they mean the game eyes over heaven
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>>146915204
It's the last time he tries to use Hamon, right before The World punches a chimney at him.
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>>146901300
Isn't it "Toiu" or something?
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>>146916202
Yeah, it's と 言う (to iu)
So he fucked up
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>>146908846
I swear to fuck if it ends with Koichi nearly dying I'll throw a shitfit. SHA doesn't have to be 3 episodes.
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>Yfw they relied mostly on Koreans for the first 21 episodes so the rest of the season will have japanese animators + Shin Hyung Woo doing the rest of the season so we're not getting shitty koreans for the third cour at all, nothing but BUDGET.
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I still hate the new deadly queen design, but I can understand why they did it.
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>>146916520
whats your understanding cause I still don't
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>>146916520
At least they got it (mostly) right in one shot
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>>146914366
what time did he become a full blown GANSTA niga, I feel like I missed that panel
Unless you mean the very last panel in the manga
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>>146916520
They're most likely fixing it as they go along, look here for example. >>146916559
Either way all my complaining went when they added that fucking beautiful shot of Killer Queen with the skull face. And they've nailed everything else so far, the bomb effects, the distortion sounds for when killer Queen shows up, etc.

Literally the only complaint I have is the eye color but even then that's not too big. I'm just happy to see Killer Queen animated, and these last 2 episodes have been god-tier.
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>>146916559
this is the only shot so far where they've "gotten it right" and it's for like 1 second
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>>146916559
Has DP ever explained why they added that shitty thing on his forehead
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>>146916631
This >>146916647
It looks like they're clearly mending the design from the fan outcry it received weeks back, betting that they'll have the design completely looking like this shot in the BDs.
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>>146901300
>40 seconds later
Hardly impressing. He probably did it on purpose.
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>>146914919
I like this analysis too http://alovelyburn.tumblr.com/post/53883744812/
Dio is a character that fascinates me.
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>>146915986
Because we already have more than enough edgy parts if you want the main cast dying en masse.
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Are you a man of the sea?
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I will pay 25 schmeckles to whoever tells me the secret to Dio's Stand
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>>146917063
makes stairs go backwards
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>>146917063
Moves an unwilling Polnareff
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>>146917063
2-25?!
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>>146913140

How is that lazy? It's a quick side comment to indicate how tough life is and things don't always go as planned. Just because it wasn't an entire page doesn't mean it's lazy, it's written briefly and coldly, like a dead child's life.
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>>146913140
Killing off Marco was good writing, though.
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>>146911839
No.
Mista and Fugo totally do, they look long and lithe, but strong.
Most of the villains look like grown men.
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>>146916303
It'll probably end with Koichi yelling at a crowd of people, no way there's a third episode.
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>>146917398
It really wasnt neccessary
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>>146917921
I know, but it's kinda nice in a weird way. It shows how life never goes the way you want it to.
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>>146916520
>deadly queen
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>>146917921
It's about the journey, not the destination.
Johnny never cared for the boy.
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>>146912281
Commit suicide animefag, that's literally the point
KQ is not supposed to look angry and menacing it's supposed to look docile and emotionless, reflecting Kira, who is terrifying, but externally quiet and harmless
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PAPEL HAZE
DISTOSHAN
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>>146908013
>Vampies use stands
Checkmate continuity-fag
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>>146918013
ZA WARUDO

WRRYYYYYYYYY
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>>146914552
for you
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Does Fugo's GHA activates Purple Haze Distortion too?
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>>146899203
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Todays poll will sleep soundly
http://www.strawpoll.me/11181011/
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>>146918314
>close mouth
To the trash.
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>>146912408
I bet you liked midichlorions, too you fucking idiot.
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>>146917921

Jojo's isn't necessary >>146917963
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>>146917964
Woosh
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>>146918445
It's JoJo, not JoJo's you fucking pleb
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>>146916631
I'm okay with the eye colour. It's the forehead ridge and goblin ears I hate, but they seem to have fixed thise for this shot >>146916647 so I hope that's the way it starts looking from now on, also in the blurays.
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>>146918425
What's wrong with midichlorians? They're just an indicator of force ability, not the cause of it
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>>146918445
>JoJo's
>>>/tumblr/
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>>146918314
Thats fucking terrifying
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>>146910019
Are there really no more coming? Fuck my autism can't handle having mismatched editions.
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it's a shame how close Kira came to being the most important hero in all of jojo.
if Kira had killed everyone and Josuke didn't fuck it up.
part 5 would be unchanged without koichi, gio would have just waiting in his room and wouldn't need to fight black sabbath.
and with jotaro dead pucci could not read his disk to know how to achieve heaven, Kira was the only one who could have stopped the ending of part 6
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>>146919001
>implying there's anyone who could've prevented Pucci from attaining HEAVEN
>anon in charge of understanding FATE
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Mori
Mori
Mori
Mori
Mori
Morioh-chew RADIOOOOOO
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>>146919001
Look at that godawful hairline
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>>146919442
That's a pretty normal hairline.
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>>146919442
You talkin' shit 'bout widow's peaks, nigga?
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>>146913140
>not understanding the point of his death
>not understanding Gyro's entire character development.
At this point I'm ashamed for replying to such bait.
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>>146917916
In the preveiw we see Kira about to pit the bomb on Koichi, no way is it going to be 3 episodes which i prefer. They kept it fast paced
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>>146912362
>They didnt leave out the best Killer Queen pose in the universe
>That last "KILLER QUEEN"
IM READY
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>>146919329
>that extra Mori
>triggered
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PICK A DESIGN AND STICK WITH IT
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>>146919810
How dare you
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>>146919810
>Is araki a cuck
>Has a beautiful wife
>Has 2 Presumably immortal children
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How bad will Viz fuck up Jotaro's watch line in the subtitles?
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>>146919894
>I like your wristwatch. A shame you'll be incapable of reading it once I break the face, that is to say your face.
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>>146912801
I actually prefer the way Speedwagon sounds in the dub desu. I think giving him a cartoony cockney accent to contrast with the way Jonathan and Dio speak makes him so corny, and yet it also improves the character by highlighting the difference between him and Jonathan and Zeppeli that weren't really in the original.

Dub Dio was probably the best in the whole dub. Seitz is a fan of the series and the way he plays up Dio as a swaggering Shakespeare villain actually works great for the character. Some of the dialogue changes in the dub are actually better than the original.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5jb9rw2eW8
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>>146919894
>That's a nice watch. Too bad you won't be able to read what time it is after I break your face.
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>>146919934
Is Zeppeli played by the same guy that played Invader Zim???
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>>146919934
>That Jonathan
>Liking Speedwagons cockney accent
My nigga, good taste.
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>>146919949
This sounds objectively like what will be written.
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>>146919934
I think Dio should sound more seductive. Whoever did Liquid Snake would be perfect.
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>>146920079
>Liquid
BROTHER!
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>>146920079
>you served your purpose JoJo. You may die now!
Thats a quality choice right there anon
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She has such beautiful hands
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>>146920296
Good taste, anon.
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>>146918757
Viz said they're localizing Part 4's manga, but they said they can't say anything about when or the format, so that tells me that there's a JoJonium of them and they're not allowed to say anything yet.
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>>146919808
This. Either redesign it or use the fucking manga design, constantly switching it makes the animation look worse than it already is.
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>>146920079
Oh but he does. In fact, that's one of the things I like about Seitz as Dio: he plays up both sides of the character.

For the Part 1 dub, he exaggerates Dio and includes very poised, polite speech fitting of a character who pretends he is a gentleman to mock the concept of morality, and he goes full URRYYYY when he needs to.

But for the Part 3 test dub, he sounds very calm, very restrained, and at that scene with Avdol, he sounds confident and seductive. He doesn't try to make Dio sound "evil", he tries to make him sound smug and confident. He represents the change the character goes through, just like Koyasu did

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m77Qzc5kEYI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhjEZQ0q09w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_-iyhQLiKM
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>>146919894
Viz or CR? I don't live in the US, so I can't watch Viz's subs. How have they compared to CR's subs?
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>>146918314
Killer Queen looks as furious as King Crimson
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>>146920079
Robert Atkin Downes needs to play Josuke. Regardless, Seitz is already confirmed by Viz to reprise his role as DIO.
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>>146920580
>and he goes full URRYYYY when he needs to

Except for the part where WB took URRYYYY
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>>146920594
Viz supplies the localised names
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Koichi should have been the main protagonist not gay Josuke
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>>146920727
Out of the script*
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>>146920580
>The emphasis abdol's VA puts on SWEETNESS
Jesus
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I don't like how Stands become reality.
Hear me out.
In Part 3, they just magically come to be. The Bow and Arrow didn't exist yet.
At the same time, it's heavily implied that the Joestars get stands just because they're Joestars, while the other
Stand users apparently had the power since birth or just magically got them at some point for no explained reason.
And they first introduce the Tarot Stands, and it's a great idea, tying them to the tarot cards. Then they introduce the Egypt 9 Glory Gods and that's cool, still based on something and still limited.
Then whoops, here comes Vanilla Ice and Kenny G. and the others who just randomly have random Stands with random names out of nowhere.

Then comes Part 4. The Stands begin to be named after musicians and songs. The previous Stand types (Tarot and Egypt Gods) are never mentioned outside of Hermit Purple, Star Platinum and The World.
And most of the time the Stands don't have powers based on the actual musicians or songs or wherever, unlike how the Tarot stands and Egypt God stands had powers that were based on their legends most of the time. They just get random powers.
As for how they get the Stands, now the Bow and Arrow is introduced. However, there are two exceptions: Josuke, who, again, basically just gets the Stand because he's got the blood of a fucking Joestar, and Tonio, who gets his just by traveling around the world.
Then in Parts 5 and 6 it's back to magically receiving them again.
And in the SBR universe they're basically just there.
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>>146921112
I should say that I meant the Bow and Arrow didn't exist IN CANON yet, I know about the history behind the artifact.
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Here's another example of why I think the Phantom Blood dub works: aside from some of the stuff they removed for no reason like every single URYYY, a lot of the dialogue changes actually work better for the kind of story Phantom Blood is and the time period it takes place in.

Like this scene, where Dio goes to get JoJo behind the curtain. In the original, he says something along the lines of:
"Didn't I just tell you ? No matter how hard you plan, human schemes have their limits. Cease your useless struggle. Cowering behind the curtains are we ? Come on out".

The dub changed it to this:
"You were a fool to attack me. I have disowned my weakness, in favor of life ever lasting. You're behind the curtain like Polonius, and like Polonius, it is there that you shall meet your end"

Putting more emphasis on "I have disowned my weakness" gets the point of why Dio turned into a vampire better while still sounding verbose and fitting of the character, and the reference to Polonius not only fits the kind of story Phantom Blood is, it fits Dio, a character who is intended to come across as a cultured villain with delusions of grandeur who now sees himself as a god (if Jonathan is Polonius, then Dio must be the Hamlet of the story, and the comparisons between Dio and Hamlet warrant another discussion entirely).
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>>146921112
But Stands in part 5 and 6 are almost all caused by the arrow.
In part 7, they're caused by will, spin or Jesus parts.
And in part 8 who the fuck knows it's earth magic nigga
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>>146911493
>female Okuyasu is just Okuyasu with a wig and lipstick on
that sounds about right
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>>146921112
In SBR, the rules are changed a bit.
Corpse parts can grant Stand powers like the arrow did.
The Spin is the gateway tool to gaining Stands in a sense.
And then there is the multiple Phenomenons on the planet that grant stand powers like the Devils Palm, Wall Eyes, Bite marks, etc.
Stands are a basically the users Spirit manifested at will. Usually something in their lives grant the stand. Things like the arrow and such Rush/Force the spirit to manifest and it can effect how a stand comes out.
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>>146911493
I'd a koichi
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>>146921416
>only wanting to fuck Koichi as a female
Literal pleb-tier
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>>146921468
Yukako pls.
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>my son treats me like total shit, but at least he's a good boy.
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should i worry about watching the anime? i saw the animation of part 4 and said fuck that and just went to the superior colored manga.

the manga's art is so beautiful
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>>146921112
>it's heavily implied that the Joestars get stands just because they're Joestars
But it's literally stated that the Joestars got Stands because of their blood connection to DIO. Same thing happened with Josuke.

>And they first introduce the Tarot Stands, and it's a great idea, tying them to the tarot cards. Then they introduce the Egypt 9 Glory Gods and that's cool, still based on something and still limited.
I agree that giving the Stands an actual mythological background fits with the very point of Stands in the first place but Araki was limiting himself with these motifs. There's a point in Stardust Crusaders where you can tell Araki was just creating Stands so he could fill out all of the tarot cards so readers wouldn't complain. Not tying the Stands down to a specific naming theme like tarot cards but instead music gives Araki a lot more freedom.

>most of the time the Stands don't have powers based on the actual musicians or songs or wherever, unlike how the Tarot stands and Egypt God stands had powers that were based on their legends most of the time
The Tarot and Egypt God Stands didn't really have powers related to their names most of the time either. You can say main character Stands like Star Platinum and Magician's Red had them, The World is a bit related to the namesake, The Sun is literally the sun, and there are other analogies made at first, but the majority of them don't have that relation. Aside from Anubis, the same thing applies to the Egypt God Stands

As as these guys said
>>146921311
>>146921376
The arrows don't stop existing after Parts 5 and 6 and Stands have an origin in SBR.

I kind of understand your viewpoint anon I just don't think you thought up your post all the way through.
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>>146920769
No they don't.
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>>146921567
>The World is a bit related to the namesake

An alternate name for The World tarot is Time
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>>146910788
What if someone hits Santana with the stand arrow?
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>>146921606
But I did say it was related to the namesake. The World and the main characters's Stands are related to their namesakes.

But I didn't know that. Thanks.
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>>146921678
If that happens that would be boring.
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>>146921723

>give the worst Pillar Man a Stand
>still weaker than Kars
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>>146920769
Viz never actually gave CR any names. If Viz were the ones supplying the names and copyrights, the CR wouldn't have had to use shit like Dan of Steel or Cool Ice.
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>>146921683

I know, I was just elaborating further
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>>146921807
This. The CR subs names aren't the Viz names.
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What would make you finally realize that Araki has lost his fucking mind?

How about if Part 9's SBR version of Gio goes through this process of collecting things and mentions "modified ingredients", and out of nowhere, Pucci appears, like the actual Pucci from the original world in Stone Ocean? Then, together they use the modified ingredients to straight-up summon Heaven Ascended DIO from the EoH videogame?

I'd still read it
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>>146922141
>What would make you finally realize that Araki has lost his fucking mind?
Giving Star Platinum the ability to stop time mid fight against DIO.

Resting the entire fucking universe.
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>>146922141
Araki lost his mind years ago, friend
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>>146921468
I'd a normal Koichi too
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>>146922219
>there are still retards who think that Star Platinum's time stop ability is an asspull

How do you exist? Why are you so dense? The whole fight from the very beginning was a build up to Jotaro finding out he had the power. Even D'Arby the Gambler was foreshadowing to it. He was afraid of Jotaro suddenly getting things out of nowhere because he thought he might have the same power as DIO.
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>>146922232
>>146922219
Well, that's a good point, but I mean "lost his mind" like "he needs to stop writing and check into a fucking mental hospital immediately"
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>>146922141
>What would make you finally realize that Araki has lost his fucking mind

I think when I saw zombie Jack The Ripper leaping out of a horse to shoot scalpels through his nipples was when I realized the author was batshit insane.
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>>146922141
Araki had lost his mind as soon as Weather Report began to exist.
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>>146922141
>Implying Araki remembers about Pucci

Araki is Alzheimers patient zero mate
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>>146922308
>Shoehorn a new ability during the final boss fight so he can win
>Not an asspull
Come on, you can't be serious.
Even GER had some foreshadowing chapters before.
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So i just finished Part 5 and I was wondering would King Crimson be able to erase the time that The World stops?
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>>146922277
My nigga. Nice digits.
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>>146922308
>Even D'Arby the Gambler was foreshadowing to it. He was afraid of Jotaro suddenly getting things out of nowhere because he thought he might have the same power as DIO.
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>>146922310
Bringing Jotaro back 2 times and making him either do nothing or job. All of part 6. All of the JoJolion shenanigans. He probably already has alzheimers.
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>>146911493
>>146921322
I'd still hit it.
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>>146922392
Time doesn't keep going during timestop and it would be impossible to predict as well. King Crimson wouldn't be able to skip time if it's not moving.
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>>146908727
>>146908809
They are for his huge testicles.
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>>146899203
1.Johnathan
2.Joseph
3.Joseph and Jotaro
4.Koichi until about two thirds of the way in then Araki reailized he should probably make the Josuke do stuff
5.The Brojos
6.Emporio
7.Gyro
8.Hato, God willing
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>>146922540
>It would be impossible to predict
I can't see how. If Diavolo figured out that DIO could stop time he'd be able to figure out why DIO is teleporting in his predictions.
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>>146922392
>Epitath
>He sees that time will be stopped and stuff will happen to him
>He erases time in one point of erase time is stopped
>He erases anything happening to him during that too
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>>146912011
Then what are the Jostars?
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>>146922382
>>146922415
Have you guys not seen the scans of the art book that explains why DIO had Hermit Purple? The World was originally supposed to be the power to have all the tarot card Stands, so the final fight was going to be like a boss rush for the main characters where they'd fight all the Stands they fought in Egypt again. The only power that DIO had that they hadn't come across yet would have been time stop, so by the power of deduction, they'd figure out that it was Star Platinum's power.

He ditched the idea of DIO's power, but he still kept the finale of Jotaro and DIO having the same power. So no, it's not an asspull because it was foreplanned. An asspull is only when the author has written themselves into a corner and just need to come up with something so the main character doesn't die.
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>>146922611
>6.Emporio
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>>146921311
>And in part 8 who the fuck knows it's earth magic nigga
Lol no, it's very obvious that the corpse being buried in the area had an effect
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I know the ending itself makes part 6 objectively not the best part, but it's still my favorite.

I'm hopelessly in love with Jolyne, pls help.
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>>146899203
DIO
Joseph
Polnareff
Koichi
Bruno
Jolyne
Gyro AND Johnny
Gappy.
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>>146922661
Um... no i havent seen it. Citation needed???
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>>146922659
Prophets/priests.

Speedwagon represents the disciples, and the Speedwagon Foundation represents the religious follows; they can't see the Stands or what's going on, but they still believe it and help.
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>>146921563
WRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYYD
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>>146922308
That theory about D'arby will never not be retarded.
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>>146922661
That's a lot of wild speculation there buddy.
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>>146922748
That's kind of gay.
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>>146922613
>If Diavolo figured out that DIO could stop time
My point exactly. He wouldn't be able to figure it out. And in a hypothetical situation DIO would just use timestop once and kill Diavolo, not giving him any time to figure it out at all
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>>146922725
Same here man. Part 6 is a lot like Part 2 where the biggest factor of whether or not you like it is the JoJo
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>>146922738
>>146922831
Check the pastebin. It's one of the art books.
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>>146922725
Me too. I honestly would have liked the ending more if Pucci won completely and wasn't stopped by the Emporio asspull.
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>>146922891
>DIO
>Using timestop once and just killing someone
Fucking lol
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>>146922971
>Kakyoin
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>>146922891
Except DIO wouldn't just use timestop to kill someone. He'd play cat and mouse until he got bored. Diavolo would be able to figure out his stand after the first prediction.
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>>146922891
In a hypothetical you nut. Obviously his personality wouldn't let him just kill an opponent.
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>>146923005
He still toyed with Kakyoin long enough to fuck up and have his secret revealed.
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>>146922725
But the ending of Stone Ocean is the best part.
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>>146923027
Oops meant to (You) these two
>>146922971
>>146923022
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>>146922968
>tfw Jotaro finally reunites with his daughter as a family and then they all die embracing each other

The tragedy would be perfect
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>>146923046
The made in heaven fight was one of the best fights in the series but the actual ending with Emporio and Irene was really stupid and it sort of rendered moot all the struggles of all the JoJos in the parts before that.
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>>146923005
>Using the guy who figured out DIO's ability as an example of how Diavolo wouldn't be able to figure out DIO's ability
Are you retarded?
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>>146923057
So in your hypothetical situation, where DIO went completely against his personality and did something he'd never do, Diavolo would lose?

Do I have that right?
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>>146922661
I dunno about that. It's not like SP had no powers besides the timestop, before it gets it SP is repeadetly shown to be an incredibly powerful stand. By you logic Silver Chariot doesn't actually have a power. Even if Dio was meant to have every stand at one point, that doesn't mean that the timestop was planned from the beginning like so many things in this series obviously aren't. Also there isn't much evidence that the final fight would play out in exactly that way.
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>>146923211
Silver chariot doesn't really have a power. I guess having a sword is kind of a power
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>>146923197
Correct.
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>>146923211
Different anon here. I actually predicted Jotaro would have timestop because the whole point of SP was that he was super duper fast amd accurate. I figured that maybe he was so fast because he could stop time. Was pretty excited when I got it right.
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I came up with a few stands based on Belle and Sebastian songs since they're my favorite band and are not in the story at all.

「A R A B S T R A P」
Destructive Power: B
Speed: A
Range: E
Durability: A
Precision: A
Developmental Potential: E
Can create unbreakable straps around things with a touch, but they only activate when the victim has sin in their heart, the more terrible the sin, the tighter the strap wraps, with the power to kill.
It is a hulking power stand, covered in bands all over its arms and chest. It's head is vaguely genie like, and melancholic

「T H E L I F E P U R S U I T」
Destructive Power: D
Speed: C
Range: C/Infinite
Durability: C
Precision: A
Developmental Potential: D
Can locate anyone anywhere in the universe precisely once they know the target's face. When the target gets within about 20m of the stand they are hit with excruciating physical pain all over their body
It has a feminine and lithe appearance, with compasses and navigational tools worked into the design

「T H E P A R T Y L I N E」
Destructive Power: D
Speed: A
Range: A
Durability: D
Precision: C
Developmental Potential: D
The stand can enter sound systems or musical instruments and cause them to play music that forces those who hear it to dance (or play, in the case of a person using a musical instrument) until they die of exhaustion. Only stopping the music through destroying what is playing it (it will continue to play though an unplugged sound system and an instrument without a player) will stop the forced dancing. Stands will dance as well, and cannot make deliberate efforts to move from the dance floor to destroy the source of the music. Blocking out the sound will keep you safe from the stand
The stand is Smaller and looks like Michael Jackson from Thriller (non zombie)
(already posted in /tg/ JoJo thread)

Do you have any autism to share /a/?
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>>146923131
>the "Stone Ocean made all the parts that came before it worthless" argument
You do realize the ending of Stone Ocean with Irene is meant to give the Joestars the happy ending they deserve right ?
That it doesn't invalidate their struggles it just makes it so that, because of Pucci's fuck-up and Emporio's resolve, now they get to finally live lives without Dio's influence.
That it's the bittersweet conclusion to JoJo in that it makes it so that all the characters we knew are, technically speaking, dead, but their spirits live on in the new universe where they can find peace away from Dio.

If you genuinely think the ending to Stone Ocean makes everything that came before it useless you might as well say "Vento Aureo was filler". It seems like you genuinely didn't understand it.
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>>146923436
But they still all have the birthmark
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>>146923436
Wow, thanks for that explanation. I love Stone Ocean but I never realized that the end with Irene meant that the Joestars were finally free from DIO's influence. That's actually really nice.
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>>146923436
Yeah but it's about as emotionally satisfying as the Goosebumps episode where that kid who thought he was a werewolf is just a golden retriever all along. We don't like the Joestars because they are, we like them because they overcome impossible situations. Without those situations they aren't our Joestars to celebrate
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>>146923436
Anon continuity/canonfags are pure cancer and there is no convincing them
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>>146923490
The Birthmark wasnt born from Dio.
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>GioGio's stand is basically crazy diamond, except it can heal its user and create life from objects

Why is his stand so OP?
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>>146923564
It mirror's Jonathan's caring soul and healing abilities. There's also a parallel to when Jonathan revives the dead flowers when he grabs the branch after getting Hamon from zeppeli.
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>>146923564
>Crazy diamond is basically star platinum except it can fix shit and cant stop time
Why is his stand so OP?
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>>146923436
What gives the story and the Joestars meaning is their struggles. Without them they're just people. The ending isn't satisfying at all
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>>146923564
It's not though? It doesn't have any of the matter manipulation abilities. Giorno couldn't do the lottery ticket thing or the rock prison thing
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>>146923318
why lie on the internet?
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>>146923638
Parts 1-5 still happened. The only thing changed in the Ireneverse is the fact Pucci never existed.
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>>146923642
He could put a condom on a guy and then turn it into a piranha.
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>>146923363
I got some based off some charcters from code lyoko...
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>>146923638
But think of how shitty they must feel about bringing a child into the world and potentially having them die because DIO did something stupid.

That's the entire reason why Jotaro is a shitty dad. I'm sorry you can't read into things, anon.
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>>146921601
Yes they do.
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>>146923701
Sure?
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>>146923638
So you would prefer that they were in a neverending struggle?
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>>146923707
Are they any good?
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>>146923318
But him being super fast and accurate was actually unrelated to the time stop. Sounds like you just got lucky.
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>>146912436
She was doing the time limit to be like the Fairy Godmother from Cinderella, right?
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>>146923131
Ok you stupid faggot.

Part 1-5 still happened the exact same way in the Ireneverse. The only thing that changed is Jolyne having another name, Pucci never being born and therefore, Part 6 never actually happening.

Kill yourself, you waste of space.
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>>146923666
Nice trips, satan. But I'm not lying. Really not that hard of a concept to predict.
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>>146923897
I definitely did get lucky, but I was just sharing how I put two and two together. This was before I knew anything about The World or stand limitations.
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>>146923897
>him being super fast and accurate was actually unrelated to the time stop
THIS IS FUCKING WRONG YOU IDIOT TRY READING THE FUCKING MANGA NEXT TIME

time stop is a direct evolution of the speed and precision power. DIO himself explains that he developed the ability because he was testing his speed and precision by having someone shoot bullets at him, and next thing he knew, boom, time was stopped
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>>146923897
It was though. DIO flat out said he figured out The World could stop time when testing the full limits of his stando's precision.

You faggots seriously need to reread the manga without speedreading
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>>146923534
>>146923638

But we have seen the Joestars overcome the impossible repeteadly. Each of them had their own stories, their own villains to defeat, and they did.
The ending to Stone Ocean essentially just makes it so that the Joestars were finally able to carve out a better future for themselves through Emporio. It's because of their sacrifices that Emporio was able to defeat Pucci.
The people you see at the end (Irene, Anakiss) are the same characters you have seen since the beginning of the arc. Their spirits are the same. They just have different identities.

That's why Pucci's world, the prison world in which Emporio first found himself in, had that Jolyne and Jotaro. They were the same Jolyne and Jotaro in identity, fate had happened the same way, but they weren't the same because their spirits had died. It's telling the readers that their sacrifices have now given them a chance to live happily.

It's not invalidating any of the previous struggles of the JoJos. Those struggles happened within their respective parts. It's just giving the characters a new world to live in. They may not have the same names, but they are the same characters. Their struggles still happened.

The ending of Stone Ocean simultaneously makes us sad because we see our main characters die and the world of JoJo be destroyed, but it's actually kind of a happy ending. The Joestars, after all they have gone through, are finally in a world that is free from DIO or Pucci. The evil world that was corrupted by DIO had been destroyed, and it took the characters with it. But their spirits, because of Emporio, now live on in the Ireneverse. It's not invalidating their struggles or what makes them Joestars, it's giving them a chance to actually live their lives as they wanted to because of their ultimate sacrifices.

JoJo started with a sacrifice, and it ended with a sacrifice. Only now, the sacrifice isn't related to the origin of evil, but it's a sacrifice that ends evil for good.
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>>146923968
why are you watching in like 240p
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>>146924045
>>146924041
But there are stands that are faster than star platinum without any time stop like silver chariot, and i don't see what being precise has to do stopping time. Speed and precision are just stats that stands have, and star platinum's were high in addition to the timestop.
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>>146923833
I'd prefer a resolution other than "it never happened lel"
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>>146924139
>But there are stands that are faster than star platinum without any time stop like silver chariot, and i don't see what being precise has to do stopping time
whether or not you agree that time stopping is a good evolution of speed/precision is irrelevant. Araki writes DIO saying that that's what happened, so that's what happened.
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>>146924079
You forgot the part were Josuke is alive
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>>146923638
What confuses me about the part 6 ending is what happened to the characters from parts 4 and 5? Isn't Joseph still alive too? That would mean that all of a sudden his family members have new names and are different people.
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>>146923856
I was traveling and only used songs i had on my phone at the time ehhh maybe not but ill post anyways
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>>146924187
I know that the stand stats are basically complete bullshit, but I'd also like to say that the world had a B in precision, so that might not actually be one of its particular strengths.
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>>146924160
How many times does Araki have to bash this FATE crap over people's heads before they get it,
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>>146922611
>Emporio
>anything more than an occasional plot device
>>
New thread.
Migrate when ready.
>>146924369
>>146924369
>>146924369
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>>146922738
>there are still people who don't know the original concept for one of the most iconic jojo stands

I wish he kept it that way
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>>146924361
Japan will never understand fate. Never....
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>>146924079
You know, i wonder.

Dio and Pucci were undoubtedly gone for good, but what about Kira, Diavolo, and the pillar men? I'm assuming in this new world that Diavolo would have still found the stand arrows and got the money somewhere to form Passione, but would Kira ever get the stand arrow to get Killer Queen? And what about giorno? Did he die and get reborn, or did GER protect him? Would giorno not being affected by the reset not change diavolos fate or the fate of the other gang members? Is diavolo still bouncing around in his death loop? Were the pillar men still fated to be reborn in the 30s, or did they magically stop existing too?
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>>146924160
>canonfag detected
Are you going to say Part 4 was filler too ?
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>>146924079
Thought I was reading about the ending of MLA here
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>>146924337
The World developed time stop by pushing its power and speed to the limit, not precision and speed
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>>146922891
>he wouldn't be able to figure it out

>EPITAFU
>sees himself suddenly donuted without any time passing
>deletes the part where everything happened

???
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>>146899203
1. Jonathan
2. Joseph
3. Pol Pol's Strange Journey, guest staring huge autistic teenager beating up everybody
4. Duwang Gang
5. Bruno
6. Jolyene
7. Gyro&Johnny
8. Who knows at this point
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>>146924483
Well those guys were saying it was precision/speed.
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>>146924045
>>146924041
That could be just one of those cases when the stand uses its ability on its own to save its owner, like with Weather Report. It's not necessarily an extension of its speed.
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>>146924079
You seem very determined to convince me and I appreciate your passion, but I still strongly dislike the ending. Both for the fact that the original Jojos die for seemingly no other reason than to start a different arc, and for the fact that the one got-damn time there was a female Jojo she couldn't just have a happy or triumphant ending. I know I'll get shit on for saying it but it's really important to me as a grill fan to see females portrayed as "just as powerful", at least ONCE. We saw all the other jojos get powers or improvise and fight literal gods, and I was hoping to see Jolyne grow in a similar way. The only other comparable female character was Lisa Lisa, who just got immediately shit on before we could see her worth in battle.

It hardly feels satisfying in any way. I'm happy for Ireneverse's peace but still don't have any attachment towards the completely different people part 6 ends with. I don't buy that their "spirits" are the same because I subscribe to the idea that humans are shaped by upbringing and experience, you say that their struggles still happened but I don't really see any evidence of that. It doesn't feel like they "sacrificed" anything because it doesn't feel voluntary, unlike Jonathan's death with the Dio head. They lost to Pucci and Emporio ended up being the only one who could put him down. Coincidentally, Emporio saved their doubles a couple universes over.
If anything, the ending just left me feeling miserable for Emporio
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>>146925321
>The original JoJos die
Except that's fucking wrong.
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>>146913423
Best one by far
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>>146925321
The ending was supposed to make you mad, idiot. That's the intention behind everything.
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>>146925321
>I want every ending to be happy with no consequences whatsoever
Oh fuck off.
Bad shit happens. You can't escape fate. Everybody dies. Get over it.
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>>146926071
I have my opinion, and you have yours.
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>>146926511
You have bad opinions and your sourness over the ending is nobody's fault but your own. Learn to let go.
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>>146926635
pretty much what I wanted to say, but with much nicer words.
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>>146926674
Can't catch a fly with brash movements and force. You need honey to coax it into your hands.

I still doubt the anon I replied to will get it, sadly. Some peolke have a hard time letting go of characters they love.
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>>146926635
I don't walk around every day with the ending of Stone Ocean hanging over my head lmao, nor do I blame an author for writing whatever he wants. I just didn't like it, that's all. It's possible to dislike things in a healthy way, it's just media.
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>>146924369
>>146924369
>>146924369
>>146924369
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>>146926848
What I'm saying is that the reason you don't like it is because you won't let go. You are so attached to your strong independent womenz that you can't see the point of the ending. Which is that nobody can escape fate. all good things must come to an end.
I'm not going to assume you're so stupid that you'll allow the ending to actually affect your life, and I apologize if it came out that way. I'm just pointing out my interpretstion of your reasoning for not liking the ending based on your posts thus far. Reasons that are pretty dumb, imo, but understandable to an extent.
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