Next best love story in Macross?
>>146872436
This. REMOVE ZENT.
Truly they are the biggest insult to protocultures rightful inheritors, the Windemerian people. Fuck executing the traitor and the son of the devil, execute the enemy of our creators first.
Remove ZENT, ZENT ARE THE WORST ELVES.
>Protodeviln almost completely genocide the galaxy by brainwashing half of it into a hostile force, then nearly do it again
>get taugh a way of selfreplenishment so they can use their immortal lives to do whatever the fuck they want
>>146872449
DELETE THIS
Macross is like "Jesus forgives you for your sins, be happy now".
Understanding and fixing Windies lifespan, here we come
>>146872774
>windies
>sins
Maybe if NUNS hadn't started it all and been crooked as fuck. Their crusade is vindicated as fuck my dude.
Delta a shit
>>146872857
Macross post SDF was a mistake.
>>146872886
You were a mistake
>>146872774
>fixing lifespan
>I don't pay attention to the show
With that logic, humanity should complain too why they end up as potatoes when they hit 60-70
>>146872957
>ass mad idolfag
Name one way in which the series improved post SDF. Depth, length, cast, visual detail and writing quality, all these things have faltered in one iteration or another when compared to the one true Macross
All hail SDF
>>146872963
This whole unnatural lifespan thing could just be another one of Roid's delusions. I really hope that's the case, even though I wouldn't mind Freyja sticking around for an extra 30 or 40 years.
>>146872963
You are the one not paying attention to the show. It's been more than established that windie lifespan is just not normal, probably the cause of fold waves or something like that.
>>146873024
The romance in the Macross sequels are better than SDF. The later MCs aren't scumbags like Hikaru. Freyja and Sheryl are the best idols to grace the series, infinitely better than Minmay.
>>146873119
>that windie lifespan is just not normal
It is, they're living the same lifespan for eons.
It's only Roid who wants to fix it.
>>146873136
I will agree that Minmei is a shit. I think she was meant to be a shit but I suppose there are people who like her. Maybe they just really fucked up making her sympathetic to non-idolfags.
Just like with Hayate and Freyja, these two had an unmei meeting.
>>146873139
What part of 23year old Cassim caving in to death faster than expected because of the use of his rune and 9 year old Heinz having one foot in the grave because of his singing seems natural to you?
Their premature deaths or dying at 30 aren't natural at all. Something in the wind is fucking them up.
>>146873291
Heinz is using a sound weapon, no shit its going to affect him.
Cassim was affected by Mikumo and Heinz's song, he was fine before that.
>>146872963
>comparing a 70 year lifespan to a 30 year lifespan
Jesus
>>146873364
People aren't made to be equal
70 years is tiny compared to centuries of lifespan
>>146873364
>implying it isn't likely the same relative to the individual
Fucking hell
>>146873339
Oh my God. Nope. Nah man. This isn't worth it. Bye.
>>146873281
That's not an UNMEI, this one called rape.
>>146873845
>implying this isn't just how two autists court each other
Roid is just nervous and doesn't know how to approach the situation. Mikumo would do the same. It's like you don't even watch documentaries.
TOO PREDICTABLE
>>146873845
maybe its an unmei rape?
The fights are so disappointing. Where are all the missiles?
>>146873281
Based. Roid-sama has excellent tastes.
>>146875411
Just re-watch Plus.
Lifespan is not even acknowledged as a real problem in Delta. Literally no one except for Roid cares about it. Freyja doesn't care, she even said she would not want to have longer lifespan if she couldn't sing. Keith, Herman, Bogue and 2 chinese twins do not care. Heinz who is now at death's door doesn't care about it too.
They might save Heinz from death like they did with Sheruru, but I think that's it.
>>146875411
All missiles are hand-drawn and thus expensive. You should ask BigWest to resell their rights to Sunrise.
Why do the manga and the novel have better writing than the anime?
>>146872449
Kumo doesn't know what love is. She needs a family to teach her.
>>146876031
In what way? They are just retelling the plot of Delta.
>>146876271
The novel gives us more stuff to play with like Hayate's hilarious yet kinda deep father complex on Freyja. That's only the first chapter alone.
Is that Kaname ?
>>146877547
Print media always has more details than anime/movies. That's a given.
And I disagree that his father complex in novel is a good thing.
>>146877722
Why would it not be a good thing?
>>146873281
I hope she falls for Keith or the shota.
>>146878217
>wanting the 3 year old to fall for the 19 year old
That's pedophilia.
>>146877722
He always got a father complex. The novel author makes emphasis on the character's issues. Alto's gender and mother issues and why he needed to fuck Sheryl to resolve them were obvious in the novel more than the show.
>>146875411
Don't fire missiles; they're stupid.
I expected otouto bullying by older sisters, not a traumatized otouto because of dead sisters.
>>146878276
It's legal in Windermere.
>>146878881
Same here. Poor bastard. I really wanted to see his sisters.
>>146878337
It doesn't really feel like macross without missiles man. It's just wrong.
>>146878951
Two of them are alive. All I want is Bogue to survive this and enjoy the rest of his short life with his remaining sisters.
>>146878337
They fire some gay boomerang things.
Who will win Mikumobowl?
>>146879266
Death.
>he actually disliked the first 3 episode of F
they are honestly some of the best moments of Macross period, what is wrong with today's youth?
Freyja Lee
>>146879266
Kaname
She's the oldest so she'll adopt her.
>>146879336
I don't even remember what happened in the 1st 3 episodes. I have only the movies in mind.
>>146879266
Star singer will
Titles:
24 - "Fatal Judgment"
25 - "Star Singer"
26 - ???
>>146880724
ep1
>Vajra attack
>sheryl concert
>Alto gets in the cockpit
ep2
>The Target OST
>Ozma makes his appearance
>alto saving Ranka
ep3
>airlock scene with Ranka and Sheryl
>Ozma nearly dying
>Alto and Ranka make their move
plus just look at pic related, if that isn't the tightest shit to end ep1 on I don't know what is wrong with you
>>146879266
My dick
>Yes. She'll be perfectfor leading my son to the Jenius granddaughter.
>>146881722
source on these?
>>146881475
tomboy
>>146881778
animedia
>>146881778
Sauce: https://twitter.com/HimemiyaRea/status/773528590445060096
It's from the Macross Febri that came out last week.
>the older one Misa won the Hikaru bowl
>>146873364
As someone who is very likely to die in their late 30s to early 40s I'm glad I won't have to suffer in my 70s or 80s. Not like I'll miss out on anything, I'll be dead.
>no conclusion
>Sheryl won
>The blond chick Sylvie won
>Isamu won
>>146882061
Not canon.
>>146882095
>Sara won but they've probably died.
The true winner is Mao Nome who stayed alive.
genki girs from Kawamori
The only one left.
Freyja will probably win this
>>146882253
Mirage will probably win because Freyja will die in like 15 years or less.
>>146882253
>>146882348
this
>>146882253
Lol the best screencaps they could come up with for Mirage is one of her blushing at two fish people kissing and the other of her boobs getting ignored by Hayate.
no rape prison porn by now?
>>146882741Fuck you.
>>146882741
Comiket 91.
>>146882181
For the last time, Mao Nome died before Frontier.
>>146881925
>>146881956
>>146882001
>>146882061
>>146882145
>>146882181
>>146882253
What's with the arrow colors?
>>146882850
>fuck them
okay boss
>>146882976
She died but she had a daughter and a granddaughter.
>>146882348
>>146882424
>Mirage can only win if Freyja dies and is out of the picture
You guys are giving me secondhand embarrassment. Please stop.
>>146883001
What's written is what matthers. The red one 好意 --> Affection
>>146882247
That pet belongs to Mirage.
>>146883459
He's the dorms' pet.
What an ugly pet though, I miss based mercat.
>>146883459
That character stereotype belongs to Freyja.
>>146883389
We're not wrong. It's like Shinobu winning the Monogatari.
Look at that smug face. He knows the waifufags want his head and he doesn't give a fuck.
>>146883817
You are. If Freyja does lose it's gonna be because Hayate doesn't like her that way. Either because he sees her as a dear friend and/or because his feelings for Mirage are romantic.
Freyja's lifespan thing was never an issue. Episode 18 made it clear that for both her and Hayate this thing won't be in their way of how they want to live.
I don't see how it's such a big deal. It's the Sheryl thing all over again. You would think people would stop being this stupid after 8 years but guess not.
>>146884545
His head is a lot bigger than hers.
>>146872449
>Macross, giving birth to new pairing potential every episode
BRAVO KAWAMORI BRAVO
>>146884575
He's a big guy.
>>146884646
meant to reply to >>146884593
>>146884712
he's a dumb shoujo bishonen
>>146884575
Yes, but after she dies, Hayate is going to be alone. Swoop in Christmas Cake Mirage and then she'll be happy and Hayate will be somewhat happy and Freyja will be dead.
>>146884774
I thought he was the usual villain with glasses.
>>146884675
is there a translation of macross the ride?
Roid will be killed by Shiro kishi. Screencap this.
>>146884814
>This post
Also do you really think a 33 yo woman is a christmas cake?
>>146881680
Those Hoina faces are lovely.
>>146884814
Why would Mirage wait? That'd be pathetic. Even Ranka was able to move on.
>>146872963
>With that logic, humanity should complain too why they end up as potatoes when they hit 60-70
Not really. The Windermerians are completely fucked. They have a 30 year lifespan, but they have the life cycle of a species that lives 60 to 80 years. They don't mature any faster than the other Protoculture races, they have single births and it can be safely assumed that their pregnancy terms are of a somewhat similar length.
That sort of thing should leave their ability to keep a replacement level of population growth extremely fragile, not to mention the issues that they'd have with generational knowledge acquisition. They're dead before most humans on a research track have completed their doctorate.
>>146885103
Anyone unmarried woman older than 25 is christmas cake. That's the entire point of calling her christmas cake.
>>146885242
Because it's Japan and she's kind of autistic.
>>146884675
Chelsea best Ride
>>146884814
>Mirage shippers make her more pathetic than Ranka
o-okay.
>>146878217
Kumo x Heinz is best. Now that's she's 3 it's ok right?
>>146885376
No it got even worse. Now he's three times her age.
>>146885269
>she's kind of autistic
She's not.
>>146885376
Heinz is a 3 times her age old decrepid geezer robbing the cradle
>>146883459
>That pet belongs to Mirage.
And likes Freyja better. Even Mirage's pet doesn't love her.
>>146885310
Mirage shippers mostly aren't fans of the character, they're just looking for any possible angle by which they can say their horse won.
>>146885613
don't make a positive into a negative. It likes them both, just Freyja more. That doesn't suddenly translate into dislike for Mirage.
>>146885613
Animals love Freyja just like Heinz. She's another wind singer.
>>146885809
Poor Mikumo...
>>146885859
Mikumo's a star singer. Don't mix things up.
>>146885859
What does this have to do with Mikumo?
>>146885809
It could just ve a windermeran thing. They're so into nature and shit of course animal would take a liking to Freyja and Heinz.
>>146885809
>>146885859
Mikumo kills innocent rabbits.
Pick three ppl in delta that would make a better triangle than Freyja-Hayate-Mirage
>>146886018
Messer Kaname Arad
>>146885779
The writers have clearly ordained that Mirage is not allowed to have anything.
>>146886018
Freyja - Hayate - Wind
>>146885926
I don't think it is. Animals always loved Heinz, this was stated by Herman. He wouldn't notice that if it was a windies thing.
>>146882181
Roy should have been the MC of Zero.
>>146885964
someone post that shit again, its from the anthology right?
>>146886018
Ernest - Elysion - Makina
>>146886127
She can't even have skillz.
>>146886018
Chuck-Mirage-Reina
>>146885788
What is this, a wedding for ants?
>>146886185
No skills, no love, no pet, no screen time.
>>146886046
This triangle has been stagnant since Messer died.
>>146886018
Roid-FemHeinz-Keith
Give a definition of a good triangle anyway? One that is like a sports tournament? You want the bitches catfighting over the dude? What exactly is this fabled "good" triangle you claim exist
>>146886185
Mirage is only 18, she still has plenty of time to train and become an actually good pilot.
And maybe in next Macross she will get a cameo and we will see her masterful skill.
Or most likely Kawamori will die and Delta will be the last Macross and Mirage will be forever known as the shittiest pilot ever.
>>146886332
I'm not really part of that discussion, but to me a "good triangle" would be one that isn't just there to give the fans a stupid horse race to wank over. If you're going to include a love triangle in a series have actual compelling character and/or plot development come from it.
>>146886018
>>146886259
That would be a bloodbath.I like it.
>>146886455
Max was 16 when he first started kicking ass. Mirage is falling behind.
>>146886496
We have this. Its just concentrated fully on the actual pair in the triangle.
>>146886531
You're falling behind
>>146886127
Why couldn't they just ditch the love triangle like Kawamori wanted? This is beyond sad. Mirage could have ended up with Keith!
>>146886644
Which means it's a shitty triangle. Absolutely nothing comes from it being a love triangle as opposed to just a conventional coupling. In fact the story and all the characters involved in the triangle are weaker for the triangle's existence.
>>146886168
No. You could replace Roy by someone else and nothing whould have changed.
Say something nice about Roid.
>>146886681
Mirage is a shit pilot. Get over it.
>>146886778
Good taste in Walkures.
>>146886765
How so? Not everyone who falls for someone gets to get together with that person. I can sort of see your argument if we think that the triangle's presence is preventing the couple from getting together earlier because it needs to pretend to be unresolved, but this is only if we accept that all triangles must be competitions like that.
What if Mirage win the Triangle?
>>146886905
All I can tell you is you haven't paid attention. Like at all.
>>146886018
Hayate-Mirage-Walkure's harem, and Freyja dies
>>146886332
3 likable characters have romantic feelings in a variety of angles. Delta has one of the shittiest triangles I've ever seen, but ironically has the cutest couple in Macross.
>>146886962
Why?
>>146886905
All hell will break loose.
>>146886992
Kawamori did it again. He trolled the sponsor with the triangle because they refused to break the tradition then he went to China to get new sponsor for his new original Project.
>>146886992
>>146887005
If you think it's just a random selection game, I suppose you can maintain that attitude of anything goes.
>>146886881
A good triangle could potentially be very lopsided, but it has no business being in a story at all if it doesn't add something to either the story or the characters. Narrative isn't like real life, you cut out the unimportant bits that go nowhere.
If you get some sort of compelling character growth or emotional drama out of that characters unrequited characters feelings, that's great and worth exploring. If not, it's not worthy of time or focus.
That's the problem with the triangle in Delta. It doesn't effectively advance the plot, and I don't feel that the show does a compelling job of using it for pure character development either. It's not that the outcome needs to be uncertain, people who say that are stupid, it's that the story element needs to be used well and I think in the case of Delta it's used poorly.
>>146887166
Doesn't seem so random when they went out of their way to nake a manga about Hayate and Freyja hanging out together or a magazine cover of them holding hands. Or expanding on Hayate's feelings for Freyja in the novels.
>>146884954
if there isn't, give me the raws and i'll do it
>>146886962
Well that would be one hell of an asspull at this point. I think signs point to a unresolved end.
>>146887282
so you're saying that because Mirage isn't getting stronger from it, or it doesn't have huge plot relevance (on the side of Mirage) it must be bad then
>>146886962
All I can tell you is that you're a delusional Freyjafag
>>146887309
That's what I'm saying. If you don't just think it's a random selection game, its pretty obvious where it's gone.
>>146887330
Based on?
>>146887481
>Based on?
fanwank
>>146887311
Are you the anon who translates the manga? Would you be willing to translate the manga when the volumes are released in October?
It doesn't look like the guy who scanned the magazine will post any more chapters but Nips will probably post the volume raws.
>>146887568
You think the signs points to an unresolved end because of fanwank? Okay
>>146886905
Told you so will rain.
>>146887619
i am not he, however i will do my part if required
>>146886905
Big asspull. The reactions will be from surprised to angry to "told you so muh tradition".
Writing so far points to either Freyja or Sky ending. Mirage winning will be out of nowhere because her relationship with Hayate doesn't hint to anything romantic from his side and Hayate suddenly realizing he has feelings for her when so far he hasn't notice her more as a friend/teammate will be bad writing but this is Delta, it can happen.
>>146887619
no that'd be me. It's possible I might. If its tankobon scans i'd have to take it slower and not do a rushjob without any semblance of quality control.
>>146886018
Mikumo < Roid > Heinz
>>146887282
Sooo... by this logic do you consider Frontiers triangle good or bad? Most people think the drama from it killed Ranka's character in the series at least.
I have no words.
There is a deathflag on Freyja since Mikumo is the final boss.
Heinz will save Mikumo from her unmei rape by Roid. Then Mikumo will fall for Heinz. Happy ending.
>>146887402
I am specifically saying that Mirage's involvement in the relationship has no bearing on anything. It doesn't serve to advance the plot, nor to offer an interesting exploration to any of the three characters involved in the triangle. It's not just that it doesn't offer anything to Mirage, but that it doesn't offer anything to the plot, Hayate, Freyja, or Mirage.
>>146888046
Overall I think the story element is used well in Frontier, but it has problems with how it's executed. Specifically I feel like in TV Ranka's character arc as it relates to the relationship never comes to a satisfying conclusion. We're bombarded with this juxtaposition of Ranka's feelings as childish infatuation and Sheryl's more adult and serious, but a full realization and processing (or clear rejection) of that never seemed to come from Ranka's character to me.
It's somewhat better in the movies.
>>146888529
I thought Ranka going with Brera and leaving Alto behind was enough realization on her part. It's just that the last ep may have cheapened it a bit.
>>146887481
I think signs point to an unresolved end mostly based on episode 22, along with a few more minor things from other episodes. It just makes me worry a bit about staff's intentions.
>>146888743
Speaking of an unresolved ending, I wonder why miragefags accused freyjafags of "retreating" to a sky ending when ep 22 aired. Nobody wants a sky ending. I guess they got desperate.
>>146888739
I don't think that's an unfair way to read it, her relationship with Alto was kind of predicated on dependence so the move towards independence represents a pretty good break from that even if it didn't go quite as planned. That said, other than that one scene in the last episode being a bit of a cop out I was far more satisfied with Frontier TV as a whole than the /a/ consensus seems to have been.
>>146888974
I feel that people fail to keep in mind just where it is that we're having these conversations when they try to take the pulse of the various camps. Most likely the most incendiary and outlandish shitposters on both "sides" are either completely neutral or have a camp but don't mind switching sides in the argument if they see an opening to drop a funny insult against their own side.
>>146889081
I get that that scene when she tells Sheryl she won't lose is supposed to represent her growth to a more confident person, but it wasn't really needed. The choice she made in ep 21 cemented that enough.
is the Windermere bomb the same one they dropped in Frontier?
>>146889473
If it was the Brisignr Globular Cluster would be a much more peaceful place.
>>146889473
Yes, but obviously much, much smaller in scale.
Okay, I have pretty much had it with Mikumo.
I used to be okay with her, but nobody, NOBODY hits Freyja. Not on my watch.
>>146889575
Freyja deserved it, she was going to get everyone killed.
>>146889644
You had better pray that I never meet you in real life.
>>146889575
It's Macross. MC's always get abused.
>>146889689
There is no excuse to ever hit a woman, especially my wife Freyja.
>>146889731
Freyja should listen to Quattro.
There aren't enough VF-31A's in this show.
>>146889473
Well it obviously didn't suck in the entire planet, but from the look of the "explosion" it appears to have been the same general type of device.
>>146889731
You're the first person I see get this mad about a 3 year old girl slapping a 15 year old girl.
>>146889842
>VF-31A
Second best girl after Elysion.
>>146886778
I like his glasses collection.
>>146889842
Well it's not like we've seen the VF-25 canon fodder variant either.
I like it when Miragefags want to overtake the thread with their 10 HayaMira fanarts that they have. It's cute.
>>146886778
He's a gentleman who knows how to treat a lady.
How can people bash Aimo, when Fire Bomber did that, but several times worse?
So are we seriously gonna do the whole "enemy leader goes rogue and has his own plans so both sides unite against him" thing?
is the disease Sheryl gets in frontier proto-Vars?
>>146889942
Don't taunt them. Save it for when Hayate chooses Freyja. As if there was another choice kek
>>146890264
No. V-type infection was a physical transfusion of Vajra bacteria.
>>146890309
but isn't that what Vars is, bacteria left by the Vajra
>>146889942
It was obvious that Freyja was going to loose since this episode 05.
>>146890364
Then Hayate ditched Mirage and took Freyja out for a joyride on that very same episode.
>>146872774
windies are justified at least.
>>146890364
Oh yeah. It was very obvious in episode 5 that Freyja was going to lose.
I mean, it's not like Mirage telling Freyja about Max and Milia applies to Hayate and Freyja's circumstances at all. Stupid foreshadowing, just there for no reason.
Kawamori does it again.
>>146890099
Because they're Frontierbabbies.
why authors are obsessed with Space Prussia.?
>>146890099
because FUKIN ROCK N ROLL.
ROCK > Jpop
>>146891012
Because Japan imported Prussian military organization wholesale in the late 1800s.
>>146891044
Planet dance is not a good song
Guys. It's obvious Freyja will lose. Look:
Immeldad gave Freyja her mp3 player, thus giving her her dream.
Because of her dream to sing, Freyja left Windermere and met Hayate, thus saving him from his boorish life and giving him his dream of flying.
Immeldad nuked Windermere which led to the war.
Apparently Hayate says flying without Freyja's songs doesn't feel right.
And for Freyja, Hayate is as important to her as her songs.
Needy idiots, why do they even need each other? This is preposterous, not couple worthy. I can't even believe they were willing to give up their dreams just so the other could keep flying/singing and be happy. Sounds like they don't care about each other at all. Anyway.
So if Freyja is from Windermere and Hayate is the son of the guy who nuked them, that'd make them opposing sides. It makes absolutely no sense for two people from different sides to fight together to make things right and show people that they can live in peace. It's not like Hayate and Freyja have a huge destiny flag on them.
To conclude, Hayate/Freyja will not become canon. Pack up, Freyjafags, you're doomed.
>>146873119
It's probably something on the planet doing it. They don't leave because they don't want to die away from their family, so they never realize that's what's causing it. It would fit nicely with humanity/NUNS being about spreading out around the galaxy to ensure extinction doesn't happen.
>>146882253
>興味
Topkek Hayate being "MUH UNMEI AND SHE HAVE MY DADDY EYE."
>>146891265
Well shit, you sure told us. I'm abandoning ship.
>>146891578
I am glad my post helped you see why Hayate/Freyja will sink.
A destiny flag means nothing and will not help Freyja win. It makes all odds against her. I hope others can also see the light, as you have.
>>146891552
Senpai, what does Hayate's arrow pointing towards Mirage say? And what does Freyja's arrow towards Hayate say?
Help a Kouhai out.
>>146891265
>It's not Like Hayate and Freyja have a huge destiny flag on them.
B-but MUH novel.
>It looked like the girl might run, so Hayate quickly seized her arm. That wasn't the complete reason he did so, but he didn’t quite realize that and couldn’t explain why he would do so. He just did it.
>And in holding her slender arm, he felt as if he had stepped out of the darkness and into a blinding ray of light.
>>146891913
B-But Hayate and Freyja having a destiny flag means nothing, desu! I-it's not like their meeting was fate or anything and that it means they're bonded.
F-freyjafags BTFO.
>>146891898
Well, my english kinda suck.
>Freya --> Hayate:Have feeling for him.
>Freyja <--> Mirage:Nakama
>Hayate --> Freyja:Interest
>Hayate --> Mirage:Comrade
>Mirage --> Hayate: Hate but have feeling for him later.
>>146892339
Thanks senpai.
>>146892410
You don't even need to know japanese, you just need to learn about google-translate.
>>146891913
>>146891994
Hayate says Mirage is "terribly beautiful" in the novel. HayaMira end confirmed
>>146892438
Oh I never thought about this, I usually hover over the text with kanjitomo and pray it recognizes the text.
Thanks again.
>(Oh, a correction: last week, I said that perhaps the second cour was what would have been the movie, and thus some wheel-spinning was forgivable. According to Adrian on last week’s Macross SpeakerPODcast, that is not the case. He didn’t elaborate or explain how the one-cour-plus-movie was hammered into two cours, but if he says that the second cour doesn’t correspond to the intended movie, then it must be true. If any non-staff would know, Adrian would.)
https://gubabablog.wordpress.com/2016/09/07/countdown-to-the-end-delta-ep-23/
>>146892468
Finding someone attractive > Being bound by destiny and feeling saved by them
I see. You sure showed us. We Freyjafags just got BTFO big time. I'm gonna go cry now.
>>146892339
>Hayate --> Mirage:Comrade
So are you saying that Hayate views Mirage as his... <<buddy>>?
>>146892660
Adrian don't know shit.
>>146880724
The movies were shit compared to the TV series aside from the improved animation and a few parts like surfing through the atmosphere.
>>146892554
You can use google translate app on phone too
>There to be worried about
But you gonna see that google always being google.
>>146892660
non-staff = unreliable and worthless source
>>146892838
Don't do this kids, use a dictionary.
>>146892660
Who the fuck is Andrian and why should we take his word as more than a random opinion?
>>146893003
which dictionary is that
>>146893051
I think he's one of the people doing the official subtitles.
>>146892660
>I dunno, I’ve seen plenty of people saying that they think the show is “predictable.” Weirdly, they never ACTUALLY predict where it’s going to go (or, in the one case where someone did, he got it wrong), they just say it’s predictable and leave it at that.
Is this guy serious?
>>146892770
To be honest I'm kinda disappoint that we didn't get solo wing Mirage.
>>146893153
Weblio.
>>146893051
3 of the guys in that podcast are doing the subs and know Kawamori and the staff
>>146893178
Delta Defense Force.
>>146893205
The "Movie became a second cour" is from an official source from the 2nd BD.
>>146892660
I met this Adrian guy at a convention. He said that his company was doing the English subtitles for the Delta Blu-Rays.
>>146893278
but It's in the second-to-last page (p.38à of the Macross Δ BD limited edition Vol.2 booklet. You can't miss it.
Windermian Allies soon.
>>146893178
I seriously can't remember anything /a/ guessed in the 2nd cour except for Cassim's death. And even then people were saying he would die in the next episode for almost 2 months.
>>146882061
Kawamori has finally acknowledged Macross II as part of the series canon?
http://hobby.dengeki.com/news/257461/
We've guessed a few things that have turned true though.
HayaFre resonance going out of sync because of the ED
Cassim dying
Immeldad being the one who nuked the windies
Immeldad giving Freyja her mp3 player
Keith kidnapping either Freyja or Mikumo
>>146893724
Sponsors do.
>>146893691
That Hayate's dad was the nuker for instance.
>>146893785
Also,
Mikumo = Final Boss.
>>146893691
>I seriously can't remember anything /a/ guessed in the 2nd cour except for Cassim's death
Everyone and their mother could tell Mikumo was gonna become an antagonist and now that's more likely than ever.
>>146893839
>>146893876
Oh yeah, and we also predicted that the songs/Wind was killing the Windies and making them die faster.
Proved by Cassim and Heinz
Why did the second half of the series go to shit?
It was doing really well until around Messer's death. Then things got really boring with a bad pacing and no character development.
>>146893785
Wright giving loli Freyja her mp3 still has yet to be confirmed but it seems very likely. One thing I certainly hope we've predicted correctly is that Hayate flies his dad's old plane.
>>146893969
This series is poorly planned.
>>146893876
>now that's more likely than ever.
>it didn't happen yet
>"we called it"
I'm sure you don't even understand how retarded your post is. Just week ago the last boss was Birdman, and before that Roid, and before that Epsilon, and before that NUNS.
>>146893969
Focus in mary sue shitkumo
>>146893785
Not bad, especially when half of the episodes were nothing happens, exposition of things we already knew and fanservice.
>>146894083
>blaming Mikumo now
Wew
>>146894065
Roid has Mikumo and is gonna make her sing. You don't need a crystal ball to figure that up, anon.
>>146884545
That is the face of a man who just won a game of tag with a three year old. smug as all fuck.
>>146894083
>implying she got a lot of focus.
>>146894083
Hey, Mikumo the plot device was pretty meh, but the new Mikumo, Kumo the character, is great. Don't hate her.
>>146893205
Do they know how it ends?
>>146894139
Again, this theory became popular just a week ago when it was spoiled that JUNNA was asked to sing one of the songs angrily.
And even then it's highly unlikely Mikumo will be the last boss. They still need all 5 walkures singing together for the final song. Mikumo will probably be like Ranka in Frontier TV, she will sing a song or two for the enemy, but she will join Walkures back for the last song against and fight against true last boss.
You guys disgust me. How can any of you old fucks be be attracted to young girls. Freyja I can understand, but Mikumo is 3 YEARS OLD! Fucking pedos.
>>146878337
I want Basara to leave.
>>146894468
>Again, this theory became popular just a week ago when it was spoiled that JUNNA was asked to sing one of the songs angrily.
We were predicting that since way earlier though.
>>146894468
Mikumo being the final boss theory started when all the mystery surrounding her started coming to light, so somewhere around episode 16 when she admitted she had no memories. He'll I can even remember it goes back to episode 14 when we saw a flashback of her singing at the protocolture ruins in a piestress-esque outfit.
>>146894706
>We
Kill yourself
>>146894784
Anons were throwing shitton of theories left and right all the time. Thousand of monkeys with typewriters, same shit, sooner or later one of them will get it right.
http://desuarchive.org/a/thread/140641613/#140652515
"Mikumo is last boss", April 25th, episode 4. But it was never a popular theory until last week.
Freyja-chan kawaii
>>146893818
Delta obviously meant to telegraph that, I don't get why people think every revelation in a show needs to be an out of nowhere plot twist.
>>146894483
Mikumo is too sexy.
>>146895008
NOICE
>>146889644
Freyja was right to hesitate because it made Hayate go nuts. They should have benched him and let her sing with no worries.
>>146894954
>But it was never a popular theory until last week
I don't know how popular it was or whatnot, but the point is, it wasn't a surprise.
>>146891913
Jesus, Hayate is creepy.
so why the fuck does hayate have runes now
did his father fuck a windnigger?
>>146895286
Well, at least he make it snow for her.
>>146895862
Did you start the series at episode 23?
>>146894954
>Thousand of monkeys with typewriters
If you want stuff that was actually more specific you can go back to some of the early second cour speculation. It was a pretty common theory that Roid was going to abduct either Freyja or Mikumo as a replacement for Heinz, with people generally saying that Mikumo was the logical choice because it lets Freyja take center stage. That was back between 17 and 18 and was far from baseless.
>>146873136
Hikaru's biggest problem was that we had to watch him wallow in the friend zone for 20 fucking episodes. In the moive he became alpha as fuck like he should have been
>>146895286
Well she's going to return those feelings later on and for good reason. He may be a wierdo with daddy problems, but he's a good boy.
>>146896594
Top kek. I'm having the time of my life with Hayate's daddy complex and how he projects them so hard on the Hoina.
MUH HOINA
MUH UNMEI
She has MUH daddy's eyes
>>146896897
I think every MC pilot has some sort of family related mental issue.
>>146896015
i went back and watched episode 22
he did have runes at all
all of a sudden he has them episode 23
so explain to me nigger, how did he get fuckign runes?
>>146897364
I think every heroine idolshit has some sort of family related mental issue.
>>146887845
Biggest problem of Mirage is writers think they already done a lot for her, but we never get the message form them.
So like you said, they have chance to complete fucked up the triangle.
best girl
>>146897855
the buddiest
>>146897855
I found a boyfriend for Mirage
>>146898095
I found a boyfriend for Freyja
>>146888974
Because they're not Miragefags?
Just like i don't think you're Freyjafags, at this rate, what most Miragefags(development) and Freyjafags(win the triangle) want are not conflict anymore, no point to attacking each others.
Problem is, the writers may end up give opposite things they want.
Find yourself a boy that looks at you the way that Hayate looks at Freyja.
>>146898576
My dick
>>146898576
I don't want a boy who thinks I'm his daddy.
>>146898950
but he'll call you daddy
>>146898576
Freyja...
T. Hayate
>>146899268
And my personal favorite
>>146898576
Seeing Hayate look enamoured with Freyja is amusing as hell. He usually keeps his cool and acts confident, but when he sees Freyja sing or smile, he loses himself.
>>146899861
Hayate is a good boy. I'm sure he'll make his waifu very happy. We can rest assured that Freyja is in loving hands.
>>146900123
Hayate is a creepy stalker who secretly watches her train.
>>146899861
I'm kinda feel gross when I saw him blushed after being a dense guy for 15 episodes,
You know what's one of my favorite HayaFre scenes that people never mention?
Episode 16, on Freyja's birthday and she's giving her speech about having reached her 15th birthday and that it's the halfway point of her lifespan. Hayate who was walking towards her, stops smiling and gets a really sad look on his face. But then Freyja says she's so happy to share her birthday with them all and that she'll continue to sing so she has no regrets.
And that look that Hayate gives her as she's smiling and crying, it simultaneously makes my heart soar and break at the same time.
>>146900226
I think she likes it when he's watching.
>>146900226
I really love this scene.
>>146900670
>>146900921
To jail with you both. She has no idea he's stalking her.
>>146900648
Damn just look how happy Freyja was when he come to her birthday party. I really love how literally who became an important person for eachother.
>>146900987
It's OK because she loves the attention he gives her. Plus, she wants his D.
MUH Hoina a cute. A cute!
Thread's actively seems really dropped a lot recently.
>>146901250
Slow pacing killed the show.
im a macross virgin. where do i start?
>>146901446
The original tv show. But if you wanna watch the new stuff right now, just watch DYRL, you'll be fine.
>>146901250
Why would there be activity when there is nothing to talk about?
Each episode in cour 2 lacks substantial enough content to create a discussion, and the worst of it is that none of them are even entertaining.
The dull direction lately makes it seem like even the people making these episodes think they are working with crap.
What is even more baffling is that anyone could have identified the lackluster writing in the meetings before these episodes were sent to production.
I wonder if Kawamori has a personal dislike for zentradi characters. Guld died in a horrible fashion, Milia got separated from Max, Mylene is a loser, Klan lost her man, Ranka was rejected, and now Mirage is getting crushed by a younger girl who also happens to be middle aged. Why no zent love?
>>146900670
tomboy
Saw this on Twitter. This is actually really cute. It'd be nice if the final shot of Delta we're something like this.
>>146902713
Plus it makes the Delta triangle.
>>146900226
>>146900987
>>146901108
Freyja is stupid and retard like freyjafags
>>146902388
>Why no zent love?
Xenocide is hard to forgive even when you made them do it.
>>146902866
>>146903385
>>146902713
>>146902794
Fuck repeating Frontier's ending. We better get a "she is my wings" ending this time.
>>146903443
>>146903559
Episode 12: "whenever I listen to your songs, it's like I grow wings"
Episode 18: "Flying without your songs doesn't feel right at all"
She's already his wings, senpai
>>146903641
Sorry. Meant episode 22. It's 1 am, I need sleep.
>>146903641
Maybe a "he is her wings" ending this time.
>>146885376
they are both underage so it's okay.
I wonder if Mikumo rapidly ages, so means she'll die in a few years.
I can't hate Roid.
>>146883817
You're wrong because Kawamori never does flashforwards like that.
Precious HayaFre
>>146904660
Married HayaFre is my kink
Dear God why? I'll never recover from this
>>146904660
>>146904746
samefag
>>146904746
Freyja looks so tiny in this one.
>>146905318
Tiny Freyja's a cute.
>>146904943
Jesus, Bogue's really into it.
>>146904943
>dat Cassim
Why
>>146905083
Still think that this scene is kinda retard.
>Freyja don't want to sing because Hayate will go berserk
>Everyone shouting at her
>Mikumo give her a bitch slap
>Freyja sing
>Hayate goes berserk
>>146905557
It's especially interesting, when as Hayate goes VAR, they go out of the way to flash quick images, of what are surely some negative emotions Hayate has, hinting that its perhaps his own emotional state that's part of the reason he goes berserk.
>>146897654
It's like episode 7 all over again. Why the fuck did no one explain how they all turned into cat people for an episode and then just suddenly went back to being humans like nothing happened? Space magic can't be your answer for everything Kawamori.
>>146905671
Cat Freyja is adorable, so it needs no other explanation
Freyja Lee
I still believe that freyja will get a bad end
>>146905557
>>146905661
We could have had a scene like this instead of throwing them into battle just to give Mirage screentime.
>>146905018
Is that new HayaMira fanart? I'm so happy for you guys. Now you have 11 of them! Maybe by the end of Delta, you'll have a whopping total of 15 HayaMira fanarts.
>>146905397
Yes I agree.
>>146905870
Kawamori said in Febri that he want Mirage to have a great moment so he gave it to her in episode 22. Well I'm ok with bitch slap thought, at least Mikumo can make Freyja sing again.
>>146905880
Redditard?
>>146905918
>tfw you'll never have a tiny Freyja to cuddle
>>146905755
BreRan OTP
>>146906064
Your HayaMira hug can't compete my HayaFre lewd rune touching desu.
>>146906114
>>146906138
>>146906046
This is so fucking wierd.
>>146906159
>>146906114
Ah, I remember that one. Episode 2 was airing and I was like woah you guys already ship them? Now she became my favorite HayaFre artist.
>>146906161
Sibling love is the purest form of love desi.
>>146882348
MACROSS : Your lie in april.
>>146906290
@kinonenosiitake is pretty fucking great. They're my favorite artist too.
>>146906114
>>146906138
>>146906180
>>146882348
I wonder if Rankafags had that same mentality when Sheryl got space aids.
>>146906378
They did.
Rankafags: Ranka will win because Sheryl is going to die.
Miragefags: Mirage will win because Freyja is going to die.
History repeats itself.
>>146906413
Sheryl already won before she got AIDS
Freyja hasn't won and is still racking up loser flags 3 episodes before the finale
>>146906473
>Sheryl already won before she got AIDS
No, she won after fucked Alto while wearing his mom's kimono and it happen after Alto knew that she got space aids.
>>146906413
I'm so confused why they claiming that character's disease is a loser flag. Nips always have a boner for OTP that have this kind of drama.
>>146906378
>>146906413
>>146906559
>>146906378
>>146906413
>Freyja - character stereotype: retarded geki girl
Ranka Lee - character stereotype: retarded geki girl
>Freyjafags: headcanons - delusions - fanwanks
Rankafags: headcanons - delusions - fanwanks
Freyja = Ranka 2.0
Freyjafags = Rankafags 2.0
Keep trying!
As a former Freyjafag, I wouldn't mind asspulls in favor of Mirage if it meant making the show entertaining again.
>>146906559
Miragefags are so hellbent on their "loser flags" and Macross tradition that they fail to see that HayaFre is getting all the development. We're 23 episodes in and Hayate has already become aware of his feelings for Freyja (or at least questions them), literally puts his life on the line for her, blushes for her, fags over her, was prepared to give up his dream for her... And for Mirage he still considers her a "comrade".
The more obstacles a potential couple is thrown at them on why they shouldn't be together, the more it makes the audience root for them and savor it when they finally admit their feelings for each other.
It's the classic "make them work for it and show how strong their love truly is"
>>146906290
writes some nice fanfics too if you read jap
>>146906663
>>146906667
I've read it all, the one about Freyja and her short lifespan was sad as fuckand the one about they do it in cockpit was hot as fuck.
>>146906667
I really wish I did read some Japanese. Would've come in handy. Now I'm sad.
>>146906705
>and the one about they do it in cockpit was hot as fuck.
Well we all know that Hayate will take Freyja on the "ride of her life" in his dad's VF. He'll follow in Alto's footsteps and fuck Freyja to get over his daddy complex just like Alto fucked Sheryl to get over his mommy complex.
>>146906663
Well, rooting or cheer for Mirage is understandable to mebut I don't understand how can they ship HayaMira when Hayate always being a hardcore Freyjafag. I remember some of them being HAHA FREYJA BTFO when episode 9 was airing even Hayate was talking about they have Freyja's song so they will be fine after Mirage told that she might goes VAR because no fold receptor.
>>146906705there's also the one where Hayate has a wet dream
>>146906850
Miragefags are in a bad place. Some Miragefags will express the notion that they don't actually want HayaMira, and then other 'hardcores' will attack them for it, calling them Freyjafags.
>>146906761
All of these sexual memes are so hilarious, my favorite on is
>Fuck me like your dad fucked my planet.
>>146906874Oh that one was very comfy to read, I love HayaFre comfy sex. I lauged so hard when Hayate thought that if he get a chance to do it in real life he will fuck her harder than what he does in his dream.
>>146906649
I want family end.
>You both are my parents?
>>146907312
He still has a mother
>>146907569
Well shit. Life hates Mirage.
clones
>>146907628
>clones
yep
>>146907628
>>146907691
Trying to push this will only make it worse for you when she wins.
24 ep. "Judgment at last breath"
>>146907628
>>146907691
SherylRanka vs. ShinpiHoina duet battle when?
>>146907851
>delta will never be popular enough to get more doujins of walkure whoring themselves out to faceless fat men
>>146907836
"at last breath" is one way way of translating 絶命, certainly. I'd go with annihiliation instead.
>>146907819
Well it can't be help when people compair Ranka with Freyja because both are young singer and have petite body but it doesn't matter with triangle result though because if Freyja is Ranka then Mikumo will be Sheryl.
>>146908031
Kawamori was pretty blunt about their differences already in episode 1.
>>146908031
Mikumo was taken out because she's too OP, this has been established.
She's also 3 and Hayate isn't a sick fuck.
>>146905557
>Ranka doesn't want to sing because she has a bad feeling about it and can't collect herself
>Alto bullies her
>Sheryl slaps her
>She sings
>Everything goes to shit, just as she thought
>>146905991
That was supposed to be a "great moment"?
>>146906161
They aren't blood related.
>>146908195
Yes, according to Kawamori 22ep. was Mirage greatest moment.
>>146908216
Kek. Did you enjoy it, Miragefags?
>>146908172
Holyshit jesus did you watch the show? Ranka don't want to sing because she saw Alto with Sheryl.
>>146908153
I don't think Hayate will be into her either. She's not like his father.
>>146908216
Source?
>>146907628
>>146907691
yep
The Kawamori's world
There are only two heroine's kind
heroine A: genki girl
heroine B: serious girl
>>146908293
http://desuarchive.org/a/thread/146472911/#q146484800
>>146908308
>ranka
>genki
>sheryl
>serious
What?
>>146908335
Thanks.
RIP Mirage.
>>146907887
>Big old dick
Kek. Did you enjoy it, freyja?
>>146908354
Well, at least he gave her a moment.
>>146908371
Woah you're too serious senpai, it just a doujin.
>>146908216
Macross Febri
>>146907887
slut
No way this is just a coincidence
How did they know?
Why is ReiRei so perfect?
>>146908245
Not at least. Going in pairs defeat the purpose of "solo" winged.
>>146908864
Bogue, pls, die already you annoying cunt.
>>146908864
She's cute, but she always manages to put herself in difficult situations and have Makina constantly looking after her. Last week she hurts her feet offscreen too.
>>146907819
>Trying to push this will only make it worse for you when she wins.
There are lots of genuine similarities between the two. That doesn't mean that it's anything other than completely delusional to expect Freyja to lose. The only realistic possibility other than an outright Freyja win is an unresolved end.
Waiting for C91 is suffering
>>146908864
>>146909384
>implying there will be doujins
>>146908864
>>146909479
Fuck off Bogue
>>146909955
I really need to make a collection of smug Reinas for people like you.
>>146906161
BreRan are pretty popular in Jap, Nips love them because Brera is the biggest Rankafag.
>>146894083
Mikumo is top moe now.
>>146910737
>insect in the bathroom panic
I thought she was okay with bugs
>>146908749
Know about what?
>>146910898
Right, Ranka is a space bug queen after all. She thougt that it's a earthworm but it was Brera's cyborg tentacle like the one Grace has.
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=52091332
>>146911204
that was pretty kekful
Is it yuri?
>>146911560
DELETE THIS
>>146911560
Is it yuri?
>>146909757
Yes
>>146911860
ATTACK
>>146911860
Healthy sisterly relationship
Bogue's Draken is getting a release. Was this posted before?
>>146912052
>>146912052
>Promote Bogue's Draken in the same page with Reina's figure
Minoring on suicide watch.
>>146912052
>>146912084
meh, its one of those simple non transformable things. Does his draken even have any difference from the rest? I thought only Keith's stood out
>>146912052
Poor Chuck.
>>146912146
It's suspicious at best.
Was it raped?
>>146912308
You bet your sweet as it was megane'd
This scene was cute. When they were mimicking each other and finishing the others sentences. Makina, Reina and Chuck were like "WTF?"
>>146912165
Yes, only Keith's Draken is different.
>>146912483
Fitting book for the cover - Roid.
>>146912672
>WTF
Also their interaction and reaction are so cute.
>>146912781
I love that scene too. They even turn their heads or have the same reactions at the same time. It's kind of scary how in sync they are.
>>146912672
>>146912781
That shirt Hayate is wearing is really hideous.
>>146912877
Makes me wonder if they'll always cum at the same time when they're fucking and feel each others orgasms as they do.
>>146913013
>hideous
I'm glad that he didn't use the second one.
>>146913090If one of them masturbate will the other feel arouse too?
>>146908864
>character has no personality, it's just a cardboard cutout
>you can project whatever you want into her
>>146913261Freyja singing at a concert. Hayate watches but then gets too excited he decides to slip away to the bathroom for a quick fap????
>>146892339
>>146892770
Comrade zoned
>>146900226
Hayate best white knight.
>>146914820
Anyone willing to translate... Please. I beg of you...
>>146914877
Eh its just Chuck trying to get some female interaction by way of his food. First tries with Kaname whos like "Sorry, no boys allowed in our dorm!" then he turns to Freyja and is about to say the same thing, Hayate's look makes him instead say "ah no, it was nothing, sorry"
>>146914820
>>146915193
Ok fine its just one page here's some more effort:
>Kaname-san, if you'd like I could bring some of our famous jellyfish manjuu over to your place...
>Sorry, our dorm's forbidden to guys
>Oh yeah, that's right.
>Oh I know
>If I can't come inside then I could at least get up to the entry hall.
>Freyja-chan, if you'd like to try out famous specialtires
>What? What?
>Then I'll make a special deliver....
>yy....
>Rune pika
>Ah, uhm, it was nothing. Sorry.
>Eeeh!? No way.
Oh, and the line on right hand side says "Cheering HayaFre on"
>>146915515
Thanks for the translation.
>>146915515
Thank you, anon.
I'm excited to see more of the novel and future volumes. We've barely read chapter 1 and Hayate is MUH UNMEI already. I can only imagine how funny it'll be once we get to the actual resonance part and how we "feels like he grows wings" when he listens to Freyja's songs. Don't even get me started on the scenes in episode 16, better yet, episode 17 when his boner goes out of control.
>>146915962
The future really is bright
>>146915962
>>146916157
Man if Mirage ends up winning, this is going to hurt like a bitch.
>>146916237
Don't talk foolishly. Live for the future; until failure is inevitable it is impossible.
>>146916237
I give her one episode.
If she fails to catch Hayate's interests this week it will be either wings end because Kawamori needs the shippers money for the movie or a Freyja end.
So who do you think was behind Carlisle's bombing? Epsilon and Berger are really suspicious, but so are the NUNS higher-ups and their failed operation.
I honestly doubt Mirage winning is even a possibility. People like to say Misa won out of nowhere at the end and that Mirage will do the same. But they never mention that Hikaru was into both Misa and Minmay for quite a while. They even hung out and actually talked like friends and teased each other.
Mirage doesn't have that with Hayate and the little friendship she does have, is immensely overshadowed by Hayate's relationship with Freyja.
Also, Mirage is pretty much against a "destiny" flag. But yeah, idk. I just want Mirage to be happy and get a happy end where she realizes she's good enough by herself.
>>146916871
t. scared and delusional Freyjafag
>>146916952
Not really. But you can think that if you want.
>>146916357
But would one episode justify her winning? You need strong writing for a moment realization because this will have to happen to Hayate in order to see that he has these kind of feelings for Mirage (if he does have them). And the thing is, so far, it's not something gradual. Mirage's feelings are justified because she has them for 10 episodes now but Hayate never hinted he thinks of her as someone more than a comrade/friend.
And if Kawamori wants the shippers money, he should go for Freyja ending. Like it or not, most fans want a girl to win and most Nips are rooting for her. A Mirage or Sky/Wind ending etc. will leave a bitter taste.
>>146916848
I bet it was NUNS.
>>146916871
Assuming Kawamori keeps making new Macross tv shows, I wonder if the way we view love triangles will change. Will we approach a series immediately assuming "oh the older chick will win, she always wins"?
>>146917174
The older chick always wins, Kawamori never changes.
>b-bbut m-muh 7
It's just one chick and since it has no triangle its one of the shittier Macross around.
>>146915962
Nips said something about feeding eachother scene in novel made me curious as fuck. I'm not gonna wait for translation anymore, I gonna buy and read it for myself.
>>146917077
Didn't Febri include an interview with Hayate's VA? Supposedly it strongly implied that Hayate would act on his feelings for Freyja after the war ends and that the finale was something to look forward to. I remember the HayaFre twitter nips went insane over the Febri. And a lot of HayaFre wedding fanart boomed in those days.
But we'll see, I guess.
>>146916992
Ignore the shitposter.
>>146916237
Better grab and buy all the rope you can afford
>>146917264
>The older chick always wins, Kawamori never changes.
You do realize that Freyja is the older one in this triangle because of her shorter lifespan?
Anyway, who cares. Whoever wins it'll be Hayate's choice and it should just be with however he feels the most connected with.
>>146917280
What? Are you serious? Please buy the novel senpai. And then tell us about this HayaFre feeding each other scene.
>>146917296
>still bothering with magazine crap that keeps disproven week after week
Talk about desperately grasping for straws.
>>146917455
She may have a short lifespan but she is still 14-16 years old.
>>146917296
Not sure about this particular detail in particular, but HayaFre shippers on twitter did indeed go nuts from Febri.
>>146917264
Older chick lost in Macross 7 Trash and Delta is based on that.
>>146917264
Macross 7 trash manga doesn't count?
>>146917477
Magazine stuff has never been disproven. It's the very very unerliable event talk stuff that has gone unproven. So far I cannot recall a single printed source (that I could see a scan or photo of it in question) being inaccurate or directly proven false.
>>146917531
I always find the HayaFre nips reactions on Twitter to be funny. They're really passionate but like in a good way.
>>146917591
>Magazine stuff has never been disproven.
Except it does, hence we all laugh at you magazine thumpers and wannabe Nips copypasting pointless interviews and presenting it as absolute fact.
The only thing right coming from magazines are episode titles.
>>146917077
Nah anon, you have to bait everyone into buying your movie tickets, even the messerfags.
>>146917656
>Except it does
No, not once.
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>>146908308
That fucking shitposter
>>146917663
I wonder if we'll even get a Delta movie. I'm not being negative like a lot of shitposters, but didn't Frontier already have a movie in the works before it even ended? Plus Kawamori has apparently already moved on to his next project and it's not Macross.
If we do get a movie, I guess it'd be in like 3-4 years. I'm not even sure I'll still be invested in Delta by then. Delta has been fun for me but it's not something I'd be like "I can't wait to see the movie". That's just my opinion, though.
>>146917455
I'm not sure anon, here some of reaction from twitter.
>マクロスΔの小説読んだけど、ハヤテとフレイアが「お前ら付き合ってないの!?」と突っ込みたくなる仲の良さ。ハヤテにあーんしてあげてるフレイアとか、思考がフレイアか空のことしかないハヤテとか。
>あーんして
FUCK I WANT TO KNOW WHAT HAPPEN IN THE NOVEL
>>146917764
I couldn't see myself waiting to see the frontier movies when frontier ended. then they came out and picked 'em up just like that.
>>146917782
>あーんして
sounds pretty legit
>>146916848
Maybe Roid set up him the bomb. Considering how young children are capable of fighting wars and pilotung machines, I wouldn't rule out the possibility that a young Roid had plans to overrun NUNS and felt the sacrifice of millions was necessary.
>>146917909
Anon, he was 13, had no real power and besides that, wasn't he flying with Keith when the bomb exploded? In the anime he's shown with Keith after they have crashed.
Let's not forget that NUNS guy said the experiment 7 years ago failed. Possibly thwarted by Immeldad nuking them to foil their plans? Maybe he found out about it and put a stop to it like that.
I'm just curious how the hell we'll even find out the truth. Immeldad is dead. Gramia is dead. Arad knows jack shit. Aerial Knights know jack shit as well. Roid doesn't seem to know anything either.
Only way I can see information being revealed is if NUNS shoots themselves in the ass and fesses up, but that'd be like a power point presentation like in episode 19 all over again.
>>146917741
Why he so aggressive?
>>146918075
>put a stop
>nukes his friends and a city of civilians
Wright isn't bright
>>146918075
Epsilon using some kind of mind control to commandeer Immeldad is the only real option that makes sense. Immeldad doing what he did out of his own volition makes no sense unless imminent planet wide destruction was averted somehow, which seems unlikely
>>146918137
>Wright isn't bright
And apparently it runs in the family, desu.
>>146918075
But that doesn't paint him in a good way. Bogue said this ep that no possible reasons would justify what happened to Carlisle and he's right. Also, while the NUNS higher-ups are assholes I think their soldiers are being painted as normal people who cared for Windermere but were put into a bad situation when Windies rebeled against them because of their higher-ups. I mean, I think the show wants us to see those soldiers more or less as innocent as all the civilians who died. In sum, nothing justifies it.
I still think Immeldad was Var'ed but the question is who Var'ed him. Since at this point I'm pretty sure Windermere wasn't responsible for that, I think it will be either Epsilon, who have economical reasons to lead Windermere to war, or NUNS, who were talking about that failed operation.
>>146899861
Blushing Hayate's a cute.
>>146918188
Hayate is just naive and a cuck for not killing his enemy.
Messer died for NOTHING, he did not kill Bogue the second time and was just dodging against Cassim.
>>146918512
I agree. Blushing Hayate is a cute.
>>146886018
Keith - Heinz - Roid
>>146918137
Are you questioning Wright "The bomb is always right" Immelmann's master plan?
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>>146893927
Now I wish I screen capped my predictions. Guess I'll just enjoy HayaMira ending despite the tears
Roid a shit.
Do they even use cellphones in Macross? All I've seen is the nail phones Walkure uses and the weird cat phone Freyja has.
>>146919423
Did you forget episode 17 already?
>>146919549
I did. All that T&A made my mind go blank.
>>146919667
Even with all that T&A, Hayate only had eyes for his precious Hoina. He good boy.