>another haremshit manga where the MC is a beta self insert

Just read hentai.

>>146796220
it wouldn't be "interesting" if the protag was chill and enjoyed his harem. No one wants to read a story about a guy going to the store to buy groceries and nothing happening you know?

so beta harem mc's will always be a thing.

>>146796328
I liked that one short with the gay harem mc. That was fun.

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>delinquent girl

Best girl right here

>>146796220
>Before she died, Taga Reiji's mother made arrangements to ensure her son would not be alone. What Taga did not know about these "arrangements" was that he would be enrolled into a special class at the school his mother founded where prospective fiance candidates would all vie for his hand in marriage. How will Taga's new life of constantly being surrounded by girls unfold and will he be able to choose just one?

How is shit like this still selling? I swear to God, there are like 20 new series with the exact same plot coming out every season, this fagottry needs to fucking stop

>by the Kimiiro Focus author
...picked up.

>>146797573
Same reason isekai sells. Plot writes itself no thought or effort needed. Only need to worry about artwork and marketing. I'd like to see authors put more effort into making either better girls or a predatory MC into harems.

>>146796220
Beta insert faggots are easier to write, though. If you have someone who is accepting of the girls or puts his foot down and choose one then it's either going to be hard to stop being repetitive (since he's just gonna fuck the girls) or it's not a harem anymore (since he's chose one)

>>146798087
Fans don't like over the top carnivore MCs. That's why harem MCs who actively pursue harems are often only web novels and almost never light novels

>>146796220
Just don't read it

>self insert beta MC

I'm confused, why would you insert as a beta? Wouldnt you insert as a crass, smooth operator MC?

>>146796220
Never

>>146799202
I'd self-insert as a combination of the two. Crass and outspoken, but too chicken to go through with it.

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>>146797573
>by the Kimiiro Focus author

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>>146796220
It will stop when this shit is no longer targeted to limp-dicked red-pillers and otaku. So it will never stop.

Sorry Anon.

>>146801843
Trump-sama is that you?

>>146796220
I'd rather have this than isekai trash desu

>>146802783
>red-pillers

Haha what

>>146798207
I prefer beta faggots than actual rapists desu

>>146804238
>>>/reddit/

>>146796368
I think the author is going to continue with that one in a legit magazine.

>>146796220
Is there a harem series that doesn't have a beta protagonist?

Also, why do so many people use "self-insert" for just about every character there is? Why would I identify with a beta who gets scared at the thought of hugging a girl?

>>146804551
Not you but Japanese otakus

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>>146804345
The point of me posting the link was to make fun of it so I don't get what you're implying.

>>146804493
If I remember correctly, that shit was supposed to be serialized at October of last year. What the hell happened to it?

>>146804551
Because he is in a situation every lonely faggot would kill to be in and has so little of a personality that it's easier to imagine yourself in his place.
That's what self-inserts are, MCs with such little personality (or a really generic one) that they barely count as a character.

>>146804631
Sorry. With how we're infected with /pol/ these days, I thought you were seriously linking there.

>>146804551
There was this one old series that had a guy that came back from an isekai adventure with the daughter of the demon lord after becoming a monk. He ends up going to some school for kids that come back from isekai adventures with their powers intact. He was pretty badass. Too bad that show was QUALITY the series.

>>146804687
That shit was only good for the omorashi scene

>>146804687
Yuusha no Estetica.
MC was based.
A shame there was so little loliservice.

>>146804771
>MC was based.

More like annoying

>>146796220
When real Japanese men stop being shit.

Too bad there's no way to do that with fucking the economy or having issues with degenerate immigrants.

>>146804816
How? He wasn't beta at all.

>>146804849
>degenerate immigrants.

Immigrants have healthier relationships with their community than the Japs with their own

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>>146804551
>Is there a harem series that doesn't have a beta protagonist?
Ranma's both the alpha male and the alpha female of his series.

>>146804904
Not being beta does not equal a good MC.

>>146796220
it will never stop. the market for manga is actually shrinking, so it will continue to decline into niche material.

>>146804952
Ranma is shit though.

>>146804685
No worries anon!

>>146804551

There's one where the MC is actually quite sociable and likeable but I can't remember the name. It takes place in a school where all the boys were transformed int girls by an alien. Normally gender-bender and harem shit are an instant drop for me, but the MC and the translations make it fun.

>>146804928
The disasters in Europe make it seem like a bad idea.

>>146804967
I always felt there's more than being alpha to salvage a series.

Usually the MC is somehow blander than the whiny herbivore or has some other issues that turn it into an extreme case of dropped on episode 1. Alderanim's MC fucked a cougar and that series is a ghost town worse than Endride.

>>146804238
Unironically using the term redpillers to describe fucking harem fans is as bad as anything you could have linked to, though.

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>>146806134
>fucking
>harem fans
No, I think using that term was pretty apt, I'd say.

>>146797573
>by the Kimiiro Focus author
Ah, that's why it looks so familiar

>>146806295
Nah, it makes you literally as bad as the pol morons that call everything SJW you're mocking.

>>146804102
I prefer protagonists who actually like more than one girl in my harem mangaroonies. Nothing annoys me more than a harem setting, which is wish furfillment lets not pretend otherwise here, with a clear cut "girl who is going to win"

>>146806514
I see your point. I just thought saying 'red-pillers' would be easier than saying 'men who don't understand women and blame women for their own short comings' but you have a point.

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>>146808160
That drama bit is going on way too long

>>146805254
Just like with anything else, you can do alpha protagonists right and wrong.

Kaze no Stigma did it right, for example.

>>146808353
I don't know, he felt a bit shallow

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hello

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>>146808740
orgyfusion

>>146804238
>Old sci-fi movie

Who made this, a middleschooler?
I mean I agree with the message but who the hell thinks that The Matrix counts as "old"?

>>146808881
Spider, Wall, Neck and Pussy.

>>146808881
>>146809293

Spider best girl.

MIB Nee-san is 2nd best

>>146796220
This shit pisses me off so much.

>Always liked stuff that had monsters that weren't evil
>Hear Monster Musume is good
>Those fuckers lied
>Agent Smith is a corrupt bitch that mooches off the MC
>Miia is an autistic whore that doesn't know how to act in public and doesn't have any decency
>Papi is retarded. That's her entire character
>Cerea is a bitch to basically every other character in it, but every other character deserves it so it evens out
>Mero is a bitch who wants to murder the MCwho is supposed to be a self insert
>Suu does nothing but rape people, and is only with the MC because he is a spineless turd that let Smith's lazy ass dump her work off on him
>Rachnera is without a doubt the worst character in this entire shitstain of an anime/manga. She sexually assaults and insults everyone she can, and gets all mopey and sad when people don't like her. She is literally the Dindu Nuffin of Monster Musume, considering she does nothing but commit crimes and harass people and when things start to look grim for her she pulls the race card
>The thing that set all this in motion was (SURPRISE!!!) Smith being a lazy cunt and the MC being a beta

>>146809172
Dude, it's been 17 years, 3 more and The Matrix will be 2 decades old.

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>>146796220
It will stop when Japan ceases to produce forever alone greaseballs who are so devoid of personality that they can only self insert into wish fulfillment fantasies that feature a protagonist as lacking in any semblance of basic manhood as they are.

>>146810518
Welcome to the monstergirl fandom, where everyone is a beta faggot.

>>146810518
>Darling
>A Beta

>>146796220

>When will this shit ever stop?

Stop spending your allowance on it.

>>146810893
Well it's people who've abandoned human interaction so hard they've moved to fantasizing about monsters, after all.

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>>146804551
This nigga right here in pic.

He shits on everybody who gets in the way of his dream.

>>146811409
>liking asshole MCs

>>146796220
People only work in extremes it seems. Modern harems either have a beta who gets all flustered around every girl and constantly runs away, or a badass who barely has any threats against him and has some kind of super power or weapon that makes him unique.

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>>146811584
He's far from an asshole. He just wants to live the right life, and doesn't want some ass getting in his way.

First chapter has him saving his devilfu.

>>146810518
Darling is pretty okay though.

Then again beta power levels have to go into Mirai Nikki/Infinite Stratos/Shimoneta/World's End Harem for me to care

>>146811793
>Shimoneta

Annafags are the ultimate cucks

>>146811854
He brought the problem on himself and refuses to fix it.

He's a beta

>>146811930
>He brought the problem on himself

lel Anna has always been a slut from the very beginning

>>146797573
>How is shit like this still selling?

Manga are cheap.

>>146811141
>Doesn't tell Smith to fuck off
>Papi kidnaps him and he responds by buying her ice cream and letting her throw him in a fountain
>Didn't tell the RPing centaur to fuck off
>Gets kidnapped and sexually assaulted by the Dindu Nuffin spider, not only tries to take all the blame for her but also lets her move into his house
>Doppel stirs shit up for shits and giggles by writing some retarded note, and he lets everyone drag him around like a rag doll and a bunch of other retarded shit
>Series was started because he is too beta to tell Smith that her retarded ass got the wrong house
>Didn't tell Mero to get her shit together after hearing her rape murder fantasies
>Didn't tell Miia to get her shit together after she drags him to a love motel not even an hour after hearing that interspecies sex is illegal

Face it, he is a massive beta.

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>>146811989
If that note wasn't on the door Anna would just send weird letters at best.

His fault for getting involved in lewd terrorism. His fault for thinking Anna was an avatar of purity know who her mother is which lead to the accidental kiss.

I want a harem where every other girl is annoying as fuck except for one and she's the only one MC has an eye for.

>>146812047
That's him being a nice guy. He's never opposed to the girls staying with him and he likes Smith and her idiotic swat team.

Beta is an abused word nowdays.

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>>146804551
Try this one

>>146812178
>not taking a stand
>nice guy

More like a wimp.

>>146812210
Standing up for shit you don't care about is called being confrontational and an asshole, the most he has problems with is people almost killing him repeatedly.

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>>146812163
Wish granted

>>146812199
No new fucking translations. SHIT

>>146812310
The best girl didn't win in that one though.

>>146812241
Even a fucking saint would throw a fit over some of the shit that he takes.

>Has a shitload of monster girls dropped on his doorstep without permission
>Has HIS PARENTS house get smashed up repeatedly by a construction crew without his permission. They don't even bother moving his furniture out of the way
>Gets kidnapped and sexually assaulted by the bdsm obsessed Dindu Nuffin spider
>Smith tells him and Miia pointblank "If you two fuck he goes to jail and you will get deported and never see him again." which Miia replies with "LOL I'm totally gonna fuck him."

You would've needed to have a lobotomy to not feel anger over some of this shit.

>>146812753
Also i fucking hate how on the monster musume threads they threat the guy who makes it as some sort of artistic genius, even though he has quite possibly the most retarded logic and justice system i've ever seen in a manga.

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>>146804238
This stuff is actually true desu, the main problem is that it's just glorified explanations of what people really do when they describe it.

It's normal everyday shit and people just have some kind of artificial reality of what life really is --is all.

>>146811409
>>146811700
Its on fucking Volume 3.

Where the fuck is Chapter 5?

>>146811700
>demons didn't do anything wrong

Dropped

>>146813514
That demon did nuffin wrong except be in the wrong neighborhood at the wrong time.

There are other demons.

>>146813514
>God is evil
>Satan is good
>Corey was never in the house
>There is no house

>>146808582
I didn't know Rokujouma had boys too now.

>>146811409
Sauce?

>>146815246
I would usually tell you to fuck off and use google but this series needs more attention.
The Vanisher King and his 12 Starlight Maidens

>>146796220
Why are you reading harem manga if you don't like harem manga? It's dumb enough for anime, but especially dumb for manga since you have a few thousand other options just among ongoing series. I'm convinced you purposefully seek out manga you don't like just to start shitposting threads.

>>146810518
>>146812753
I dropped MonMusu at like the beginning of 2015, but come on, it's a light-hearted fictional fapbait story. If you're going to get angry about a character being a manipulative mooch when it's obviously played as comedy, then you might want to lighten up a little, seriously.

>>146810518
this post was pretty great I had to read it twice
is it pasta?

>>146810518
I bet you get angry and morally offended whenever a tsundere slaps someone and isn't immediately arrested for assault and battery.

>>146814694
i swear gooks always pull off this shit
can't believe they're still asshurt that grorious freedom land freed their asses with two freedom bombs

>>146815902
My kind of tsundere isn't the one that slaps people around easily

>>146804641
Did you notice the art. Plus wasn't it said the publisher wanted a weekly ~18pages vs the mangas currently planned like 10 gag style?

>>146815618
The problem is even though it's supposed to be a lighthearted comedy it randomly tries to become dark and gritty by throwing in rape and racism plots, before realizing it can't handle shit like that so it goes back to being a shitty fapbait comedy. It ends up being this confusing mess where it feels like some guy wanted to make something specific but his boss walked into the room and said they needed X in here instead of Y.

Also the MC is supposed to be a self insert, which doesn't work because when i try to self insert in the story i just get mad at all the bullshit the MC deals with.

>>146815902
Some bipolar bitch slapping you is different than getting kidnapped and sexually assaulted by a Dindu Nuffin. seriously how is this bitch people's favorites again?

>>146816118
>you will never have the chance to write for a harem anime so you can bring your ideal tsundere to life

>>146796220
Go back to reading your shonenshit, OP.

Harem MC should be complete idiots. Beta mcs are frustrating, OP/alpha mcs are so much wish fulfilment that it becomes sad, pervert mcs are stupid. Give me a complete idiot, like in those shoujo where the love interest is a manchildren.

>>146817417
Are you retarded? Shonen MCs are almost always beta self inserts as well.

>>146815952
Do you unironically think that anyone who reads harem manga cares about that? Teenagers just like the edge.

>>146816801
You have autism. The main point of the manga from the very beginning was to show off monster girls so monstrous that they'd genuinely have problems integrating with human society (both socially and physically). The author even made it a point to show that there's cute monster girls with just animal ears/tails in the idol industry but only ever write about girls that can accidentally kill a person if they're not careful.

Smith's laziness is also just a thin veil for the fact that she specifically chose Darling, and that he probably has some connection with someone involved in the whole thing. You don't get international royalty put in your care by accident.

>>146812753
Why would he? He clearly cares for them, and they care for him. You put up with the people you care for.

And keep in mind he does get frustrated at Mia for trying to fuck him anyway.

>>146817645
>beta
Nah, battle shounen MCs are usually mentally five regarding sex. A harem MC will blush and stutter if you put his hand on a tit, a battle shounen MC will think it's squishy and funny.

>>146805254
>Alderanim's MC

thanks to the author self inserting himself and make sure the plot fellates his avatar, it is as badly written as Re:Monster

>>146819407

go fuck yourself faggot

>>146819577
l-lewd

>>146819407
None that aren't bara focused or visual novels

>>146796220
When people will stop liking it. And giving it attention. Like you're doing now OP.
So never.

>>146819394
> as badly written as Re:Monster
Let's not go overboard here. Re:Monster's a whole different level of boring.

>>146819661
Damn. So many of these have the same shitty art-style. Women have no taste and most of these pander to them. There's no build up in most of these either, the MC's got his fucking pants off almost instantly. I saw someone recommend another one that's similar to super lovers but I can't remember what it was. All well.

>>146819781
Maybe it's just me but a lot of yaoi artists actually make good world settings. Whether they deliver on characters or not is another thing, but I've played a lot of visual novels at least with very nice settings.

They need to get one of these crazy ladies to team up with a good character designer and artist

>>146796220
Never.
If MC had a bit of spine, sooner or later he would end up in an intimate relationship with a girl and intimacy scares otaku.

- majority of romances is just blushing and doushio, with becoming a couple being an endgame,
- couples formed in midgame usually loose all momentum and don't act like couples at all,
- fanservice is mostly accidental and involuntary instead of being driven by mutual desire,
- even the heaviest ecchi series, where MC has to molest girls, use purely mechanical, porn-like fanservice, even when it's an equivalent of foreplay; also MC doesn't form an intimate "lovers" relationship with girls.

In how many series have you seen a couple starting to make out just because they were alone and the mood was right? In how many series has MC properly pleasured a girl instead of just kneading her boobs like some dough? Actually, in how many series has MC started to fool around with a girl on his own, without being forced to do it by the plot? Maybe a dozen out of hundreds.
This kind of shit won't happen without having a less insecure target audience, and while there is one - for example right here - no one gives a fuck about it in Japan. And stating a Western "manga" industry would either fail horribly or result in SJWs swarming it just like video games.

Also harems with betas are easier to write, since MC takes care of crushing all romantic sub-plots, characters don't need much development, fanservice is accidental, not rooted in relationships, so it can have consistent intensity and there is no risk of offending purityfags.

>>146819803
Eh If I wanted a good world setting I'd read basically any other genre. The only reason to read these in the first place is for the character relationships, and they fail to deliver on most of them.

>>146819846
Harems (the anime genre, anyway) aren't built around character relationships, though. The core concept is based around simplistic wish furfillment. Being chased by girls or guys.

>>146819806
>sooner or later he would end up in an intimate relationship with a girl and intimacy scares otaku
You're missing the part where that would make it not a harem.

>>146819892
Oh yeah, I just meant regular yaoi type mangas, not harems, those are a bit different. Nobody reads a harem for character interaction.

>>146796220
Japanese boys are sissies. Making a MC who isn't a pussy would remind them how pathetic they are and shatter the illusion.

>>146796220
the only original thing here is that one of the harem member is clearly a lesbian, but her attempts are mistaken for interest in the MC.

If they start to show affection back, the girls lose interest. See: memory loss episode of Handa-kun.

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>>146819963
Nothing stops MC from being in an intimate relationship with multiple girls.

>>146812178
>Beta is an abused word nowdays.
And misused, isn't the correct term "omega"?

>>146810518
I wish we could have monstergirl stuff that wasn't haremshit
I mean is that too much to ask?

>>146812753
>You would've needed to have a lobotomy to not feel anger over some of this shit.
I would only feel anger if the protag was feeling like shit but was holding it.
The protag here doesn't care at all so why would I feel anger?
It's like being angry when a masochist gets treated like shit in a BDSM play, he doesn't hate it so why not?
Unless you self-insert unconsciously or have an issue with assertive women, I see no reason to get angry.

What's the difference with being beta and being shy? I always see that people only make none beta or alpha MC as a super confident fucking douchebag. Can't we get a normal MC?

>>146820946
No one wants to watch normal people in their escapism material.

>>146821231
this. this is why girls are always cute and most are interested in the MC even though he isn't anything special. it's thinly veiled wish fulfillment.

>>146821372
>Thinly veiled wish fulfillment

No. Nobody is saying it's anything other than insanely obvious wish fulfillment. It's just nobody cares.

>>146796220
It likely never will stop.

Because...

>>146819973
^^ this basically.

Japanese boys/teens and, later on as otaku NEETs / hikikomori, relate to the so-called beta-fag character type because they themselves actually range from beta to omega. So, it gives them false hope through a fantasy that someone as pathetic as them can get girls. lol

It's a failure of their society that works in selling shonen manga.

>>146796220
>wrryyy!
>where are the sausages?
This series is memes and stupid jokes, it's great.

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>>146796220

Dude, if you ever get to see the otaku, that buy this kind of stuff, in Japan you will understand why so much of it exists. They literally appeal to the lowest common denominator among anime fans, if you can even call them that. Many of them only purchase anime for the self-insert/escapism factor, they don't really care about animation, writing, or anything apart from being pandered to.

None of them will ever be better than TLR anyway, so I don't see the point.

>>146822151
>lowest common denominator

Thats the average waifufag

>>146819803
With all the effort put into art for the series fujos tend to get into and all the money thrown at actual fujobait series where the characters have a snowball's chance in hell getting together, you'd think yaoi authors would want to get a slice of that pie and draw their characters more unconventional. Imagine getting a yaoi plot with a shonen artist or a yaoi written shonen-style.

>>146816118
So you don't have a kind of Tsundere?

>>146810814
>cryingyotsuba.jpg

stop making me feel old

>>146819973
That's bullshit and you know it.
It's like saying you can't like Superman because he reminds you of how pathetic and probably immoral you are.

>>146799202
>why would you insert as a beta
Because the story tells you that you can remain beta and still be surrounded by a dozen girls lusting for your dick.

You don't have to change.
You are great. It's all going to be fine.
The 2d girls will love you for you are.

This is what they want to hear.

>>146796220
How else is Japan supposed to appeal to the sexual fantasies of the NEETs that buy their products... while still creating a self insert

Yes, you too _____ (insert name of a guy who barely feels comfortable talking to women and is a complete beta) can have a sexy harem. Buy more manga.

>>146819806
>muh pre-marriage sex

What a degenerate

>>146825772
Superman is "the other" that you can't be but can appreciate.

He is an alien that is basically a god. You watch him do things without relating. Same with most super heroes. Batman may not have powers, but he is as close to a god as a human can be.

Self inserts are a powerful force in fiction. Twilight was written with as bland a MC as possible to allow such an insert. Manga is full of "girl initially dislikes/ignores/looks down on character" but character tries hard and stays pure and suddenly she lusts for him.

It's totally a self insert thing. Not all fiction is, but this is.

>>146796368
nah it was shit

>>146796220
I'd like to see a harem manga where the girls actually leave the MC for not maning up and he goes into a suicidal spiral of depression after seeing them all go on with their lives and he realizes he blew it and wonders how different things would be.

>>146828597
>my life: the manga

>>146828597
What's the point of that? That's where I am at the moment, unless its particularly interesting I won't pay for that. I read / watch harem to get away from those things.

>>146828597
You're cutting deep

>>146811584
He is not a asshole, he just want a normal life, but will fight for it, also he already saved 2 of his waifus just because it was the right thing at the moment, being proactive in your life and not a submissive guy that will let himself be bullied by others is not being a asshole. MC is pretty chill.

>>146804551
Blame nips otakus for the trend of having a bland MC so they can self insert.

>>146813514
I wonder why nips have that fascination with demons as being the real good guys and God or any equivalent existence being a complete asshole. Is just a thing of them or is there somekind of explanation? I am reading to much into it?

>>146815344
> but this series needs more attention.
Half of the mangas on a OPT are this, and people yet cant fucking give sauce.

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>>146828597
Uwakoi

>>146804551

Umi no Misaki

>>146804551
Magika no Kenshi to Shoukan Maou

LN but there is a ongoing manga. Good stuff.

When Japan stops eating it up: never.

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There's nothing inherently wrong with harems.

>>146830274
No, you're right
It seems to be only them

>>146829222
Easy.

Make it into a flashback sort of thing. MC had a harem but was a weak ass beta. He finally mans up and then is thrown back into his younger body for a second attempt.

It'd be shit, but the harem-fanbase would eat it up.

>>146804551
Trinity Seven - 7-Nin no Masho Tsukai

>>146831793
>It'd be shit

Why?

>>146832397
Just most likely.

It takes a special author to be able to make time travel work, especially with time travel in a story that is dependent on flashbacks to the "alternate future/past".

>>146828597
That doesn't sound like something I'd want to read, I really don't need to relive my high school retardation.

>>146828597
it would be more easy if the MC start cheating on the girls and playing around.

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>>146804102
you don't know what you are missing

>>146804551
Konosuba

>>146833326
>MC is a manslut
Dead in the water if it's not a Shoujo or a nukige adaptation.

What does one consider "alpha" in that situation? Raping them?

>>146796328
I watched Shomin Sample and that guy didn't actively try to fuck everyone, but often tricked his harem of retards into doing sexy or stupid things.

>>146804551
School days

>>146833326
>What is School Days

>>146830274
It's not just Japan (remember The Golden Compass?), but I think it's probably bigger there because they don't have as much of a cultural underpinning to the whole Christian or pseudo-Christian setup that these things always use. That combines with the natural tendency of a lot of these kinds of stories to be edgy and/or gimmicky (look I'm doing the opposite of a cliche, even though that's already cliche itself!) and gives you a lot of the good demons and evil angels.

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>>146837351
>>146837836
>Alpha MC
>gets killed by a woman

>>146819806
>In how many series have you seen a couple starting to make out just because they are alone and the mood was right?
It happens in Shinmai Maou LN volumes 6 and 8.

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>>146796220
The question is if you really want a serious Haremboy?

OP if you want a harem series with a guy who fucks shitloads of women, try World's End Harem, has a guy who literally spends his whole time fucking girls.

>>146839165
Shouldn't he take breaks if he wants to save up sperm? He's not going to get anyone pregnant if it just keeps thinning out due to nonstop dickings.

>>146804000
It's a /pol/ thing. They took the red pill like Neo-sama and can see reality for what it really is (read: JEWS EVERYWHERE). Still a bunch of fedora tippers.

>>146838520
This has whet my appetite. Sauce?

>>146796220
Wow, just finished reading the first 2 chapters and I gotta say this is pure garbage. Dealing with the cliche scenarios wouldn't be so bad if the fanservice wasn't mediocre and the art was bland. None of the girls got a proper introduction aside from the class rep either so they're all just orbiters with no personality.

>muh haremshit
>i nud mature anime/manga for mature people like myself

Fuck off to reddit please

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>>146837351
>>146837836
>Makoto "killed by a girl" Itou
>Alpha

>>146839165
He's not even the main character depressingly.

>>146841514
Itou life is my favorite touhou doujin artist

>>146831793
That's hella common, though

>>146827976
Found the actual faggot.

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>>146796220
>Japan having shit taste
Other news at eleven

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>>146796220
NOTHING

could be worse of a beta shit faggot ass harem MC

than this utter faggot

>>146846344
World's end Harem?

>>146796328
No it wouldnt be interesting you are right, just the opposite. It would be the most frustrating thing to watch. All I see are wimpy children not showing who the fucking alpha is.

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>>146846388
Correct

>>146839165
>has a guy
And it's not the MC. Because the MC is the ultimate pussy.

>>146839409
We could discuss pregnancy mechanics as they work both in real-life and how they apply to that manga's setting...I've got a saved document somewhere...but this particular point is moot since this faggot refuses to even try to save humanity, actively shutting down every female that approaches him.

>>146846733
>mfw that fucking faggot pledged to help cure the Plot virus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELIp1G4mZPE

>>146796220
Still think the only series that ever gave a decent excuse for that was dragons rioting which sadly is translations never and official rips never

>>146796328
You say this and forget High School DxD exist

>>146804551
Several.
Because people reading/watching harem series generally aren't very confident and secure to begin with.

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>>146836262
Something about fixing male MCs with a Shimoneta screencap that got to bump limit

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>>146846917
Gotta find a way to keep that chastity somehow.

>>146848518
Is this a new chapter?

>>146847891
That's because Issei is written decently even if he is a loud and obnoxious pervert MC.

Most "alphas" usually suffer from other writing issues. Like Aesthetic of a Rogue Hero discussion is dead. Trinity Seven doesn't come up in discussion that much. Things like Alderanim and Re: Monster are SAO flavored self-indulgent at a much higher level so only 15 masochists care about it.

>>146848547
Yes

>>146796672
>no facemask
>no trench coat
>eyes not slanted enough

Shitty delinquent girl design.

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>>146848518
Their "lewd, lewd, everything lewd constantly lewd" approach doesn't seem to be working on this faggot so now they finally got the balls to just drug him and rape him.

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>>146848732
That vulgar science lady reminds way too much of a Kajo that didn't go full retard 4 episodes in

>>146848693
Just checked the archive, is that just the PV of the latest chapter or is it the full chapter?

I want a harem MC who is SO BETA it makes him Alpha.
Where he is SO insistent on keeping his Chasity that he has developed Quicksilver Super Speed, Herculean strength, Radar vision, X-Ray Vision, Echolocation levels of hearing, smell that can detect even the slightest change in chemicals in the human body, can 'feel' things within a 10 foot radius of his body, is a master of disguise to a point he can disguise a bear as him and fools people, a master of stealth, a 7-8 Dan in over 6 different martial arts, has Fry's 7 leaf clover, and has an expert tactical mind.
It ends with him beating a Unicron type 'FUCK YOU I AM AN EVIL PLANET' who will destroy the planet if he doesn't fuck a woman and choosing the hard way

>>146839521
>Still a bunch of fedora tippers.
You're not using that meme correctly

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>>146830880
Came to post this. It's a literal harem, though, not a harem series in the usual sense.

>>146846917
It also makes it worse when you consider it makes him a fucking liar who goes back on his word.
He swore if he didn't find the Childhood friend in 1 month he'd fuck women. Then decided 'Nope'
He doesn't even want to fuck women in the event he fails to cure the disease before he dies.
The MC is a bigger fucking asshole than the manga tries to make us think Male 1 is.

>>146849174
honestly I think its literally the same people who just found something new to be fanatical about.

>>146796220
>complains about beta MCs
>reads a genre made exclusively for beta virgin otaku
wew

>>146849745
I think because when most people hear the term they think of Kings and Sultans who have harems of women.

>>146846344
Has it ever explained why he's not jacking off into turkey basters?

>>146849924
Honestly I find beta MCs more tolerable than blatant power fantasy self-inserts. Overlord is fucking shit.

>>146796220
Honestly it feels like at least half of all new harem mangas have over the top alpha protagonists who are good at everything.

>>146850006
Yeah, this.

>>146850006
>>146850025
It would make it a loss less obvious you were samefagging if you didn't start both posts the same way.
Also your taste is shit

>>146846344
That shit's a dsytopian nightmare. Males are just for breeding now.

>>146850006
Yes but you're still choosing the lesser of two shits. I know that harem exists for easy sales, but you'd think people would at least fucking try. Give your character just a tad more depth, you know?

>>146846344
>>146846733
Make him have sex but make it a passionless sex where both are just doing it because they have to.

>>146850241
That's being overly paranoid of you. I'm the second one you quoted and I actually watch Overlord, you dipshit.

Granted I think it's overhyped and is average at best, but I don't hate it.

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>>146850241
lad
>Also your taste is shit
Says the Overlord fag.

>>146846860
>but this particular point is moot since this faggot refuses to even try to save humanity, actively shutting down every female that approaches him.

Honestly, at this point. I say let humanity dies.

>>146849976
Yes. Apparently, they've tested this. Twice, in fact. It doesn't work (so they claim). It must be copulation in the traditional sense.

>>146850241
A shame he seemed a honest man.

>>146850337
>Look ma, I can use editing software to cover up my samefagging.

>>146850400
You look like a complete dipshit right now

>>146850400
nice damage control. Also see >>146850326
Like 15 seconds apart.

>>146850457
He'll probably accuse us of using some elite samefag hacking skills

>>146850272
Yeah but they get VIP treatment.
Imagine that. Wake up in a world of 5 billion women, let's say half aren't playing ball and half that are infertile or crazy.
You still get more than 100 million women that you can hand select the fuck, get to eat and sleep the best they can provide, they will fufil any request you probably ask for.
For a straight male that seems like a fucking dream

>>146850593
Or, like the scientist said, just tie him up and gangbang him.

>>146850498
or you know, a proxy.

>>146850626
That's too rational a thought process

>>146850616
MC isn't a straight male though.

>>146849976
>>146850363
I'll revise this statement as say it doesn't work...in creating MALES. ANY sperm donor can still create females, no problem. Males still die instantly unless by the last immune men's penis-in-vagina method.

>>146848518
You know, if this series wasn't trying to shove the 'GOVERNMENT IS EVIL' thing down our throat like most Japanese series seem to love down our throat so hard you could call it Roman Reigns the Scientist woman could just have forced the MC to fuck by denying him the lab he wants to use unless he fucks a woman a day.

>>146850593
play monmusu quest to know what I mean.

>>146850593
You'd need to chart their cycles and schedule them at the high of fertility. Genetically screen them for quality and diversity. For a young man, two a day would be a reasonable rate (sperm quality would suffer, otherwise). Unfortunately, though, the safest bets would be young women who had already had an uncomplicated pregnancy, although you could also include women with family histories of uncomplicated pregnancies.

>>146851155
It's such a hugely flawed story in every rational sense that basically EVERY action the people in it have taken revolving the MC is incomprehensibly stupid.

>>146804551
There's a one-shot where the MC is gay if that counts

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>>146804551
Overlord

>>146851305
doesn't even have a penis,
also garbage show.

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>>146851182
I saved this from when this series was just getting started.

About the disease
>The "MK" Man-Killer virus affects ONLY males
>It is airborne and immensely infectious
>It is 100% lethal, killing within a few days after infection
>Is extremely noticeable once a male has been infected
>No cure or vaccination exists
>A cumulative effort of female scientists and advanced Artificial Intelligence have made dicovering the cure humanity's top priority
>Beginning in 2040, by 2045 "99.9%" of all males were killed by the MK-virus
>The pandemic killed off those men within 3 months, worldwide
>The MK-virus persists in the environment with full infectious potential
>A small population of men have extended their lives by under-going cryostasis
>That small population of men will certainly die if awoken before a cure for the MK-virus is discovered and administered
>That male population number ranges from 40 million (.1% of 4 billion males if taken literally) to just a few hundred (more likely)
>Only 5 are certainly immune by coincidence of their being cured from multiple sclerosis
>The first was awoken, nicknamed "Number 1" and his location and origin are unknown
>The MC is #2 and was just awoken
>The other 3 are still in cryostasis, awaiting a sequential awakening
>The immune males' existences are only known to the top levels of the world government and to the population surrounding the establishments housing the males

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>>146851437
About reproduction
>A single vial of ejaculate is 2-5 mL and contains 200-400 million sperm
>Only 1 spermatazoa and one ovum is necessary for conception
>Artificial insemination is technologically possible and has been tested in-universe
>Sperm taken from males in cryostasis who were NOT immune and used in artificial insemination resulted both sexes coming to term
>Despite this, the male infants of non-immune donors still contracted the MK-virus instantly at birth and died within days
>Reasons are stated as "unknown"
>Sperm taken from Immune Male "Number 1" and used in artificial insemination resulted in identical results as non-immune donors; male infants contracted the MK-virus and died within days
>Reasons are stated as "unknown"
>However, male offspring from sexual copulation with Immune Male "Number 1" (penis in vagina) resulted in immune male infants who did not contract the MK-virus and still live
>Males are theoretically capable of ejaculation 48 times a day
>More feasibly, a male can have sex 3-5 times daily without any health issues
>Females vary wildly about likelihood of successful copulation given age, menstruation, physical/mental health etc.
>On average, under one single act of regular copulation given the partners are both fertile, the chance of becoming pregnant is a very low 2.5%
>If a couple is having regular sex daily, there is an 80% chance fertilization will occur within 1 year
>Once fertilization occurs, 90% come to full term
>Only 10% result in miscarriage, most occurring before the 1st trimester
>Of those that come to full term, 97% are healthy and have no birth defects (spina bifida, down syndrome etc.)
>It is extremely unlikely for a woman to become pregnant naturally without medical interference, however, when conception does occur it is extremely likely to survive all the way to childbirth

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>>146851488
About genetic diversity
>Incestuous offspring are at high risk of abnormality/mutation (physical, mental and emotional retardation)
>Continued incestuous offspring are at exponentially high risk of abnormality, assuming a fetus is produced at all
>In a climate of only 5 males but a "low" figure of 1 BILLION sexually active females, there is absolutely zero risk of being forced into any kind of incest in the first generation
>Even as the female generation dies off and lowers dramatically, incestuous relations are unlikely to occur for more than 5 generations, or 100 years
>The risk becomes nearly an impossibility if properly screened and the introduction of artificially inseminated female children continues from non-immune donors

Now that that's all out of the way, so what about the 5 dudes who need to repopulate the planet?
>They'll likely have sex 3 times daily for the rest of their lives
>That's 1,095 times a year each
>That's 5,475 different women
>Those males will never need to share partners
>Remember, artificial insemination is viable in producing females, even from non-immune donors (a group ranging from 100 - 40,000,000)
>Given this, there will always be new women between the ages of 16-35 to impregnate in mass numbers all unrelated to the immune 5, their partners or offspring
>Using previous statistics, of those 5,475 women at least 120 will become pregnant in just a single session of intercourse
>Assuming half will be male, that's 60 males per year being born.
>In 15 years, those 60 males will be sexually active themselves and the number of conceptions increases dramatically
>Still without any overlap of female partners >Not having to impregnate even a single woman related to any of the 5 immune males
>This can continue for another 5 generations, assuming females continue to be artificially inseminated by the low estimate of just 100 non-immune cryostasis males
>This can continue indefinitely assuming 40 million cryostasis males (non-immune)

>>146851437
>>That small population of men will certainly die if awoken before a cure for the MK-virus is discovered and administered
couldn't they just extract semen from these guys mechnically in a sterile room?

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>>146851534
The result?

Extinction is not guaranteed, biologically speaking. Those 5 can easily repopulate the entire planet under these circumstances. Artificial insemination works in producing humans, just not males, so females will enter humanity at a rate of up to millions per year if desired (which is to say, no change). With the 5 immune males, more males will enter humanity at an exponentially increasing rate starting at 60 per year. Even under the most limiting of circumstances, assuming the worst of non-immune males in cryostasis, there is no fear of in-breeding for at least 5 generations or 100 years. At that point, the percentage of shared DNA to the 5 original immune males would be so spread thin that there would likely be no worries of abnormal offspring. Certainly none that a medically advanced society with super AIs wouldn't be able to monitor, repair, remove or otherwise render a non-issue.

Better yet! For those 5 men, they will only breed (ideally) with the absolute pinncale examples of female perfection. Daily. For the rest of their lives. For their sons, too. They would be having sex with only the absolute most:
Sexy
Healthy
Genius
Statuesque
Compassionate
Talented
Disease-Free/Averse
Reliable
Willing
Motherly
Olympic
women on the planet. Usually, all-in-one package. Like sleeping with 3 different genius super-models every day for the rest of their lives. Their children will be superior in every way. The MK-virus destroys half the population, leading to a drastic population bottle-neck, but only the best are allowed to copulate as a result. All inferior genetic material is selectively bred out. And if a cure is ever developed? All the men in cryostasis will be cured and further diversification becomes a non-issue. And, in all likelihood, those that were frozen were aslo the best of humanity's male population as well. At least those who were deemed valuable enough to freeze whether for their physical traits, intellectual experience or wealth.

>>146851488
>reason:unknown

More like plot

>>146851538
How can you make the room Sterile if no cure or treatment exists for the virus?

>>146851437
>>146851488
>>146851534
>>146851572
this is great and all but it still doesn't answer the most important question: who is best girl?

>>146851538
If forced to live in a completely sterilized environment it would be possible for them to survive indefinitely. However:

1. Every woman they sleep with will have the MK virus exposed to them already. The moment they come into the same presence, they'll contract the virus and die. Any semen extracted and placed in any female is viable...but if the infant is male, it will instantly contract the virus and die (from the mother).

or

2. It's possible to create more males this way, however, from infanthood until death, those males would also need to remain in a completely sterile environment. They would not be immune.

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>>146851702
The short-haired cutie tomboy, of course

>>146851675
bleach kills most everything
>very woman they sleep with
extracted mechanically anon,
meaning no human contact.

>>146851744
In-vitro fertilization doesn't succeed in creating immune males. It's uncertain if the mother is already a carrier of the MK-virus or not so it's 50/50 whether a completely sterile environment for a non-immune male would work. Likely not.

Females can still be born from any sperm source, though, via any method available.

Harem threads are now a coinflip on if they become shitting on World's End Harem or not.

>>146851835
To be fair it's basically a symbol of everything wrong with the genre.

>>146851894
Oh, I agree. WEH is probably the worst Harem ever written, even more so than Love Hina.
It just kind of amuses me that Harem threads now have a chance to just be a 'what's a world's end harem?' and we enter 'Man World's End Harem sucks here's why' mode

>>146849604
Fedora tippers are militant atheist
It became a meme from r/atheism's faces of atheism.

>>146798087
>>146798207
>>146807299

I like harem that has a best bro to mc and a satellite harem.

>>146851437
Shoulda been a porn doujin series where the protag actually bangs them willingly and happily

>>146836117
Aside from being a parody, one of the reason of why Konosuba is so fun is because of Kazuma, a MC that actually have a personality that helps to improve and generate jokes instead of waiting for "incidents" to happen and cause the gags.

>>146839165
Sorry but the guy you are talking is NOT the MC of the manga, since MC is a complete idiot that will save the day just for plot armor.

>>146852312
The thing is, the artist wanted to get into mainstream.
I have a theory I posted in the WEH thread when the latest chapter dropped.
I think this series WAS going to be played straight at a point, which is why the MC originally made the promise to fuck after 1 month.
Then for some reason when the artist tried to draw a pregnant woman he found that he could not because Pregnant women are so foreign to Japan and they switched to the 'I'm going to cure the MK Virus' route.

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>>146843007
Anonyou have patrician taste.

>>146839165
>literally spends his whole time fucking girls
>>146846860
>actively shutting down every female that approaches him
I hope you realize that this seriously does not compute.

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this guy is so nice

>>146852419
>e Pregnant women are so foreign to Japan
you're an idiot.

>>146810518
this is all true, just blown way out of proportion. its like you have never watched a sitcom, or something!

funny thing is, I thought Rachnera was the best character. she is both the most whorish (tying up and raping anyone who gets in reach) and the most demure. she is mature and subdued, but still sensitive. that part where the demon called her out on all her bullshit, and she responded with bondage rape was just perfect.

>>146849110
>A man so terrible at making human contact with girls that any interaction with him wraps around to looking like he knows what he's doing
Jesus Christ.

>>146852581
Not the same guy. The one who has sex all the time is the guy who woke up before him. MC is the prude.

>>146852619
It's true though.
Birth rates are absolute dogshit in Japan right now. I bet any artist between 20 to 26 have never drawn a single pregnant woman due to lack of a source to sketch and pratice

>>146852330
Is there any place where I can read the light novels? They got removed.

>>146851835
World's End Harem is pretty much everything wrong with its genre taken to 11.

At least the other infamous betas have valid "relatable" reasons to not fuck a bitch. Or its plot isn't completely a escalating pile of rotting tropes

>>146852750
That'd be true if this was 2012

>>146852683
>tfw it'll exist someday as a premise
>Its either an unremarkable one shot manga or the aura of a "dropped 5 minutes in episode 1" due to its humor gets too ironic

>>146852611
ALL GIRLS BEST GIRLS.

S2 never...

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>>146852750
they have low birth rates, but its not fucking Children of Men, they know what a pregnant woman looks like.

>>146852834
Except 2013 and 14 both had lower birth rates than 2012

>>146852791
Seriously. This guy is definitely straight, but there is only a SINGLE reason he chooses to not have sex and that's a promise to "meet" a girl he loved 5 years ago. Not even "marry" or "only sleep with" or anything. Just meet up with her. It's already been stated that they have NO CLUE where she is or even if she's alive so this promise is already more than likely completely pointless. Furthermore, realistically, if he ever does find her and they are all happy lovey dovey about it, the girlfriend will still relent and say, "hey, it's great we're together now, but you seriously have to start fucking every woman you are ever introduced to from now on until you die in 60 years. Like. Humanity is fucking dying out and you're 1 of 5 guys that can save it. Even I recognize it's your fucking duty."

>>146852972
With how many times pregnant women get time skipped over their pregnancy or Babies just appear from the ether to make a family dynamic without that pesky pregnancy I doubt that.
Seriously fuck AI bitch in SAO and Maou's kid in Maou-sama. If you want a family dynamic knock a fucking bitch up god fucking damn it

>>146853038
Or worse, it's the total opposite and she, like the MC's fucking sister, thinks he's TERRIBLE for doing what should be his job

What is up with you people's obssession with sex?

>>146853205
It's not even the obsession with sex that makes WEH bad, it's the fact the MC NEEDS to do it but refuses to over his own personal feelings like a damn tumblerina.
The world is not fucking worth your bitch ass feelings.

>>146853205
In my case, I am tired of all the cock tease with all the ecchi series out there that I know wont go nowhere, so seeing something were things actually go for more than just some nude or pantyshot is great.

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>>146853139
dude theres a shit load of it on sadpanda,
you're just being obtuse.

>>146853259
I wouldn't want to be a baby farm either.

>>146853293
But the best part of fanservice is the tease

>>146853372
>But the best part of fanservice is the tease
for a lot of series, that's the only part of the fan service

>>146853358
But I want it in a mainstream format so more Japanese artists do it. Because A. That means even more people will do it, and B. No more faceless old men and tentacles ending with single page pregnancies.

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Thanks for the rec.

>>146853372
>But the best part of fanservice is the tease
Even if this was true, which it's almost never, that doesn't excuse the fact ALL the series do it.
Imagine you ate your favorite dinner every day for 6 month. Sixth months, that's roughly 180 days in a row.
Even if you LOVED your favorite food to death eating it that often would make you tired of it. Especially if you could do nothing to change it in any way like we are with 'teasing'

>>146853447
And that fucking annoys me. I like To Love Ru, but it's a good example. You know there will be panty shots and Rito will shove his face in someones crotch every second chapter but you also know it'll never go further then that.

I guess people get off on that?

>>146853372
Some series use fanservice in healthy and good ways, but for the ones that is basically "fanservice: the animation" is lose its charm and is just mindless cocktease, the worst part is that series like IIlya have better scenes than some hentais but knowing they wont go nowhere is painful.

>>146853568
>I guess people get off on that?
nah, they only read it for the cute girls.

>>146853568
I think it's about the creativity. See how many bizarre ecchi situations the author can create.

I would also like to bring up Mujaki no Rakuen for comparison. That shit is pretty much plotless and I'm only reading it to fap to it. There are chapters in where I don't like the situations and there are chapters where I fap to multiple times like the table masturbation and onee-chan chapters

I don't like full blown naked sex like in WEH or doujins

>>146853817
Is Rakuen the one where He ends up getting killed?

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Once we have an MC that will enter the True Man's World

>>146804551
The Ambition of Oda Nobuna was pretty good despite the whole 'historical characters gender swapped and de-aged' shtick.

To bad it only had one season that ends on a cliff hanger...

>>146853568
How about Kiss x Sis. That never goes anywhere either. It's why I dropped it.

>>146854604
That is very true. To be honest I still read To Love Ru and Kiss x Sis because I just find them comfortable, but you're entirely justified. It's super annoying.

>>146854604
How about Usagi Drop? Why take that single mother ugly used uphag when you have your loli-aunt you're raising who wants your dick when she's 15 but you don't teach her that having a father-complex, while normal, is not appropriate and you shouldn't commit to a relationship. But you don't say anything or do anything so you marry her and impregnate your daughter 'cause you can't say no.

>>146853951
No.

>>146854604
>missing the point

>>146854941
>you don't teach her that having a father-complex, while normal, is not appropriate and you shouldn't commit to a relationship

Pussified modern western society right here, folks.

Whatever happened to I'm a Harem Protagonist, But I'm Gay So Everyday Is Hell? That was a project with some potential.

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>>146855299
>Pussified modern western society right here, folks.
Dude. If your daughter, even step-daughter, starts thinking "I'm in love with my dad, I should try to marry him and then have sex with him and we should raise a family together" it's fucking BAD NEWS. Like, that's fucking awful. Do not allow that line of thinking in your daughter. It's also sickening.

>>146856288
Like, seriously. The girl is clearly in love with her childhood friend but gets SO PISSED at him when he decides to allow himself to be blackmailed into dating another girl instead of her, she starts going to a really dark place. Her only place of respite, she finds in her whole life, was this adoptive father and at 15-years-old she starts thinking, "I have all these hormones, all these feelings and who I thought I had an outlet for them in my childhood friend who I now hate, I can only direct them towards my dad. Guess I'm in love with my dad! Guess I should marry him and then fuck him!" The dad even straight up tells her, "this is the fucking worst thing you can do to me. Do not confess to me, your dad. I have absolutely no idea what to do with that." But she does it anyway and he just goes along with it and every single person in his (and her) life is now thinking WHAT THE FUCK.

Anyway, pussified nothing. Don't raise your wife, you fucktard.

>>146856456
>Autist thinks manga is real: the post

Kowai.

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>>146856955
Are you trying to talk about Yotsuba?

>>146857088
That's Koiwai, anon.

Grisaia mc is based

>>146796368
That's a bit of an unfair comparison. A gay man who has his priorities in order is naturally better at rejecting than a straight man who can't make up his mind.
>>146827976
The later drafts toned down the archetype avoiding and went more for being at odds with his classmates.