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preparation for the live stream
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>>146687907
There will be a triple fusion to take place to defeat Black. Dude is too powerful for regular fusion.
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>>146687907
To use a HxH term, is Black only strong because he's using Ko? Black's punch was caught fairly easily by Vegeta, and even when Black powered up, Vegeta couldn't be budged. Black caught Vegeta with his sword, which Black later transformed back into his aura. In HxH, nen can be concentrated into one part of the body for either defense or attack. Sort of like Piccolo's special beam cannon, as Raditz explained, goes beyond his usual strength because he's able to concentrate all of his ki into only two fingers.

We need confirmation on this, but it seems like Black is actually weaker in pure strength than Goku or Vegeta. He just seems to be faster, more precise and is good at concentrating energy into attacks, which would give Black an interesting dimension to his fighting style and make him special, something I feel more DB characters need.
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>>146687907
"Time for your bath Trunks"
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>>146688142
Hubba hubba!
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>>146688142
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>>146688219
>>146688264
lol
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>>146688264
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>>146688314
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>>146687907
Use the catalog dumbass >>146685270
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>>146687980
give me a link, darling
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how many bongs until it starts boys?
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>>146688390
meant to>>146687907
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>>146688364
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>>146688474
Two more hours till the new episode.
http://www.dragonballsuper.pw/live-streaming
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>>146688593
Thanks bro
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>>146688693
Ayyo, no problemo. I love Super and want to give back. DB is one of my favorite franchises.
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>>146688780
yeah thanks ese, jajaja habla es el super cyka blyat?
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>>146688587
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>>146689368
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Black is goten
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Is it me or is Mai hot because she's just a younger Chi Chi that Goku can never have anymore?
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>>146689911
No, way
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>still no dragonteam episode

Over8000 pls cum bck
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>>146690009
you just like asian girls senpai
i found my love through asian milfs through chichi
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>>146690268
This anon knows ;)
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>>146690009
Pretty much. Future Mai looks a lot like Teen Chi Chi.
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>>146690009
technically she's older than Goku, but yes the appeal of her character is her youth.
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>>146688109
No retard, Black absorbed Vegeta's Super Saiyan Buruu strength/skill when he tanked his hits.
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>>146690268
Asian chicks are gross
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>>146688587
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>>146691144
she's got better hair though.
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>>146690009
mai is hot, she has the eyes toriyama use for beautiful girls like bad lunch, nice she kept it unlike bulma whose eyes were rounder but became semi-circle during namek.
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>>146688593
>http://www.dragonballsuper.pw/live-streaming

any better link? it's quite laggy.
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>>146692171
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Close enough
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>>146688142
>>146688264
>>146688314
>>146688364
>>146688587
>>146688587
>>146689368
>>146689903
>>146692171
>>146692949
This pairing is one of the few good things about Super.
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How long guise ?
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>>146693206
STREAM LINK PLEASE
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>>146693489
16 bings
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>>146693489
15 minutes my nigga

get in stream before youre locked out
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What is the point in being excited for a stream if you don't speak moon and its going to be a day until you can watch?
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>>146693498
Literally google the episode..
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>>146693662
Fuck off.
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>>146693662

for all the pretty colors and DAIJOBOU
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>>146693662
it's not the same as seeing it live

try it faggot
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>>146693662
Herms
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>>146688142
>>146688264
>>146688314
>>146688587
>>146689903

Filthy ningens
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>>146692354
For some reason afro Bulma always gives me a boner
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>server at capacity
Fuck
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>>146694143
>Herms
What does this word mean?

>>146694138
I don't speak moon.
If I want to look at a digital picture book, I don't watch anime, I go on 4chan.
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>>146693498
http://www.dragonballsuper.pw/live-streaming
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Here we go boys
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has it started yet? I'm still watching commercials, and it's 9:00.
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>>146694265
https://twitter.com/Herms98
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King's Tasto
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acecook
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>>146694236
Keep refreshing, it's been this way since the very beginning.
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ZAMASU!
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dat ZAMASU
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SOMEONE TRANSLATE EVERYTHING FOR ME IN REAL TIME YOU FUCKING NINGENSS!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>146694272
anyone doing live subs? my jap isn't good enough to even watch kids shows
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>>146694358
I am, and it's still literally at that point. Is vaughnlive the only server streaming?
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So in the subs, whenever the Kais refer to Saiyans, other species, and everyone else below them as ''humans'' - they mean ''mortals'', right?

At first this seemed to be a given, but it seems nearly every single subtitled episode i've seen by various different translators has used the word ''humans''. Not once have I seen ''mortals'', and now I'm just confused.
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>>146694483
GO BEAT THOSE HUMANS I BELIEVE IN YOU GUYS!
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wow some halfway decent animation from toei
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>itt lads who are too inconsiderate to spoiler screenshots.
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holy shit Trunks
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>a metal sword blocks a ki blade that cuts through super sayien blue
power levels are just thrown out the window now
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BLACK INSTANT TRANSMISSION
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WHAT HE FUCK KLCKCKCNDB
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>>146694545
It's obviously beings in the lower realm when you look at how the "ningen "has been used in Super and previously in Dragon Ball, but subbers are too fucking stupid to think about it.
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>>146694483
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Reminder that Goku Black is Zamasu and Future Zamasu is an alternate timeless Zamasu.

Goku has seven senzu beans.

There are two alternate Trunks', or maybe just one, but Black knows that Trunks is a threat and trapping him in the past was his way of saving himself.
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>>146694668
he's a kai
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FINAL FLASH
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FINAL FLASH
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>FINAL FLASH
TRUNKS HOLY SHIT
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THIS EPISODE IS 10/10

FUCKING LIT
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>>146694611
YES I KNE HE KNO SHUNKANIDO TOO DIE NINGEN
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FINAL FUCKI G FLASHHHHH THIS IS LIT
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what the hell how can Trunks ever land a blow on those guys
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>>146694756
>FUCKING LIT
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> Trunks know Final Flash

MUH DICK
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This episode is fucking amazing. And lol at Trunks getting better shots in at Black than SSB Vegeta.
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>>146694776
>activate purple sword hand
>it cuts trunks through the face
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>trunks using a final flash that does no damage

he is just like his dad
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>dat animation
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>>146694660

It's obviously not a normal sword. It's sliced through Frieza, and it damaged Black before.

The sword is as strong as Trunks allows it to be with his own strength. He wouldn't use a sword that would break to deflect an attack.
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the animation is decent
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This is better than any shit from DBZ
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Based Naotoshi Shida = God
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>>146694767
Same reason why Jobber was able to fuck Beerus: manlet rage.
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>>146694819
it is better than anything on gt
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The animation is fucking BoG tier goddamn
Best episode of the series so far
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>>146694849
>muffled Zamasu in the distance
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ah
kawaii
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did they added 5 more dollars to the animation?
it looks somewhat decent.
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Zfags BTFO
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>>146694660
It's most likely a Z Sword.
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>>146694849
Gowaru fights Zamasu but dies and Zamasu steals his Kaioshin title and earrings, along witht he time rings.
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> Vegeta has engrish attack names
> Trunks also has engrish attack names

Like father, like son.
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>Zamasu getting penetrated by a ningen's sword.
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>>146694660
He puts ki into his sword so it doesn't break retard.
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>>146694963
Bro hug
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I hate how the Anime sometimes makes SS Blue look extremely cyan/greenish. They should stay more consistent to the official color.
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>>146694963
QUALITY
U
A
L
I
T
Y
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ABSOLUTE MADMAN!!!
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holy shit this is beautiful
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>>146694963
The Nelson, the strongest hold in Dragon Ball.
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>Yajirobe saves the world AGAIN
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>>146693449
Stupid ass shippefag.
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>>146695069
BASED YAJIROBE
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>>146695086
FILTHHY NINGEN!
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Vegeta getting a power up?!
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>Black and Zamasu being run off with tear gas
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>>146695089
Easy there Gohan fag, we weren't trying to make fun of you again.
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>>146695089

Shut up salty NoCanonTruPan
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>>146694963
>>146695015
he's looking at trunks ass
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>>146695141
plot armor does that
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>Trunks: "What about father?"
>Yajirobe: "Sorry, saving two is my limit"

MANLETS WHEN WILL THEY LEARN
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THESE HOES AINT LOYAL
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Mai is so cute ;__;
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>>146695153
>Mai not going back with them
FUCK
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This is just retarded, the power scale it's nothing but a fucking joke at this point.
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>>146695153
the time machine gets bigger each time it appears
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>>146695209
Shut the fuck up you autist.
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>Mai's sacrifice
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FUCKING NINGEN
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>>146695146
>>146695149
Fuck you. I've given up on Gohan long ago and I don't give a damn about shipping.
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>>146695230
but he's right
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>>146695230
>Defending this stupidity of a show

This show is as retarded as you.
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NINGENS WITH GOD POWERS?!

BLASPHEMY!
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WHAT HAPPENED TO MAI
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>>146695153
This show is so fucking garbage.
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>>146695281
>>146695294

Stay mad GTard
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HE HIT ZUNO SOMEONE HELP
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>>146694787
>>FUCKING LIT
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>>146695294
Shut up autist, these last couple of episodes have been great.
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Someone actually fucking wished for immortality
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Fucking Gowasu. He's literally the cause of all of this. He has to to be doing this shit on purpose.
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Nothing is ever going to be explained regarding Future Black and Zamasu huh?
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oh god

what the fuck did Zamasu wish for?
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>>146695229
adorable

lol gowasu's face
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>>146695294
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>>146695294

I want the GTfags to leave
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>>146695252
they can run but can't hide!
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>>146695353
Immortality. Why not wish all the ningen dead? Well, th
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OH SHIT HE'S GONNA KILL GOWASU NEXT EPISODE
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>>146694963
they almost got the raditz treatment
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>>146695294
Fuck off gt-ard
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>>146695334

Garlic Jr?
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HOW DID HE GET THE SUPER DRAGON BALLS SO QUICKLY
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The Trunks vs Zamasu battle was GOAT
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>yajirobe saves the day again
best boy
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>>146695406
Not canon.
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So what is everyone's opinion about Trunks > Jobgeta
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>>146695364
>26% think GT is best
http://www.strawpoll.me/11135073/r
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Don't die, Gowasu.
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So can Zamasu just travel between universes at will now? And from the preview, how the fuck did he get the Super Dragon Balls without Whis or Vados noticing?
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>>146694963

This is just plain stupid. With every new episode it's getting harder and harder not to drop this show lads ;_;
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>>146695453
ZAMASU!
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>>146695384
Zamasu wants to see each any every filthy ningen die at his hand or Black's hand.
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I had a feeling they couldn't keep up with the quality of the previous episode. This episode was shit and next one looks even dumber with somehow gathering all the Supaa Dragon Balls offscreen.

I feel like Toei had no idea how to continue this saga so they just pulled some backstory out of their ass in the last second
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>>146695416
If Kais can move pretty fast, Zamasu can too.
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>>146695481
lyke..just turn you're brain off XD
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Everything up to the fart gas: 9/10
Every after fart gas: 6/10
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you get 3 requests from Zuno right?

1) Super Dragon Balls
2) Goku
3) ???
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>>146695416
>ask zuno for the exact location of all the super dragon balls
>can teleport
pretty easy familton
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>>146695481
>Implying they give a fuck
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>>146694963
>could've teleported out of the way
>takes the fucking hit anyway

They aren't even trying.
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>>146695481
>So can Zamasu just travel between universes at will now

I'm pretty sure they're different people. They can't be the same.
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>>146695481
Zamasu in the future was his future iteration.
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>>146695452
>tfw DBZ have been airing daily on my country since the 90's
>even now it gets at least 1hr time slot
>DBGT aired only once, with no repetition ever again
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I want to come inside Gowasu
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>>146695481
>So can Zamasu just travel between universes at will now
The gods can already travel between universes whenever they want, as shown by Beerus and Whis' U10 excursion and Champa's frequent visits to Beerus. And why the fuck would Whis or Vados be watching the SDBs? How would they even know where they are? Vados and Champa were able to gather the balls without Whis noticing.
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>>146695563
Mexico?
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>>146695209
well if it makes you feel any better, Trunks is stronger in the manga so the power gap is not as wonky.
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>>146695529
This means that Super Omega Shenron is just around the corner...
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>>146695508
I kinda liked Goku and Trunks vs Zamasu and Black. It was something different and we've barely seen tag team fights. Also found it funny that Vegeta would be awake few seconds and collapse again. Other than that the rest was meh.
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>>146690009
Nah, Chichi doesn't have Mai's eyes.
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power levels really took in the ass in this episode,

how did Trunks managed to go toe to toe with Zamasu and Black?

are SSJ3 and SSG(Red) even relevant at all or is SSJ2 really that good?
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>>146695574
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This show is perfect for retards and for those who enjoy to eat shit like all of you.

>inb4 GTard

Gt was trash as well.
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>>146695574
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>>146687907

Where can I get the raw of the episode? I just missed the livestream .
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>everyone talking about power levels

SSj2 Trunks = SSj3 Goku

manga confirms
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>>146695574
FUCKING NINGENS
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>>146695647
Super is basically original dragonball, don't blame GT when you know the true problem.
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>>146695548
are you fucking retarded? What makes you think Goku has the strength let alone the concentration to teleport out of the way right there?
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>>146695481
Gods can already travel between universe or dimensions. Whis and Vados isn't constantly watching over the Super DB if they even know where it is anyway.
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>>146695672

on nyaa in about 2-3 hours

though JK anime as well with spanish subs
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>>146694644
>livestream thread
>expecting the episode not to be spoiled
???
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>>146695590
Don't forget Omega Broly, he's with him.
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>>146695631
The real reason is that nobody gives a shit about power levels anymore. Trunks was getting his shit kicked in by base Black before he fought Goku and got that power up. Now Trunks with a little training is able to land hits on Rose Black when SSB Vegeta could't do shit to him?
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>>146695631
SSJ2 Trunks is SSJ3 level
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>>146695234
>>146695293

she stayed behind and continue her role as John Connor.
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>geeters gets fucked in less than a minute
>It's Goku and Trunks holding their own at about the same level against each other.
>Even though Trucks gets bodied by Black a billion times before

Why the fuck wasn't it Trucks getting stabbed and Goku and Vegeta fighting together? The powerscale would make sense even.

Gotta hold on to the championship belt as prince of all jobbers I guess.
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>>146695574
zamasu post your desires elsewhere pls
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>>146695677

nice.
SSJ3 is ugly and useless anyway.
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>>146695677
>>146695742

>Trunks is now getting the Gohan DBZ treatment

Fucking Toei I swear ;_;
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https://youtu.be/YhvMNvWHTB4?t=2m55s
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Would Goku win if he transforms into SSJ4?
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>>146695631
Trunks is already a human/saiyan hybrid. So he has more potential than either Goku or Vegeta. He doesn't need SSB.
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>>146695750
>Mai confirmed for best waifu
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>>146695785
No one gives a shit if Trunks gets stabbed.
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>>146695526
Rules are for filthy ningen.
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>>146694698
underrated post
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>>146695838
SSJ4? What's that?
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>>146695870
A bitchboi that gets cut by glass.
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>>146695870
It stands for Super Saiyan Japanese 4

It's basically man sized monkey mode with a bit of shaving.
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>>146695293
She probably died for good this time. Or maybe there was something that Bulma sent them that could help them stay alive until they come back. But I doubt they would pull the same stunt twice with her character.

>>146695838
SS4 was weak as fuck compared to these new enemies.
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>>146695677

Once again SSJ3 is the worst transformation

What did it even do except make you loose? Has it ever canonically won against an opponent?
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>>146695853
>Gohanfags
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>>146695631
The only real answer is that SSJ Rose isn't that much stronger than Blue. Vegeta got surprise attacked. Goku can handle both Zamasu and Black for a while and Trunks was able to stall Zamasu for a while too. Really nothing that hard.
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>>146695924
No, look at this thread. All these powerlevel fags are throwing a fit over Trunks fighting, because they're convinced he shouldn't even rate. So if he got stabbed to show off Rosé, no one would care. Understand?
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>>146695677
Trunks in the manga is strong so the power gap is more minimal.
In the anime they fucked up my making him get one shotted by SSJ3 Goku down playing his 10 years of hard work.
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>>146695229
>Zamasu, you missed the Precure episode, was really cute
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>>146695921
just against Trunks
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>NEP, in short: Goku wants to go back to the future, Whis tells him how Zamasu asked Zuno about him. Oh no, now he knows everything about me!

So they need to train someone unknown to zamasu. Or make a fusion.
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Anyone know what the name of the music they use in the next episode previews is called? I got pretty hype when they used it in the beginning of the fight.
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>>146695986
>Rosé
>Gohanfag "opinions"
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Reminder this is how he should have looked.
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F.Trunks is walking proof that Half-Saiyans have a lot of fucking potential. Shame all the Half Saiyans in the present timeline are going to waste theirs.
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>>146695918
>Super Saiyan Japanese 4
toppest kek, idk if you're trolling or not but it's Super Saiya-Jin.
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>>146695229
>God-tube
my fucking sides
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>tfw just now realizing Zamasu is the white haired villain Toriyama's been hyping up for the past couple months
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Alright so who is Black? Zamasu said it was his comrade.
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>>146695485
Did you not see the fight scene? it was great.
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>>146696054
Looks pretty shitty, reminds me of kid Trunks.
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>>146696030
>So they need to train someone unknown to zamasu

It's time.
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GUYS! SHE will beat Black
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>>146695677

> Goku had to go SSG to take down SSJ Trunks

Manga > Anime
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>>146696080
Sure thing, kurruruean and pikkorro.

Unless it's literally in moonspeak characters, you don't get to pull that shit.
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>>146696155
what the actual fuck? How old are you? If you seriously think it stands for "Super Saiyan Japanese" you're fucking beyond retarded.
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Can the guy who supervised the animation this week stay forever please?

Also fuck this place, every time I heared nigen I laughed because of your fucking memes
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>>146696148

* SSJ2
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>>146696108
Wait Trunks reminds you of Trunks? Whooooooooa!!
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>>146696139
Sorry she will forever be irrelevant. She's more or less known as "Krillin's really hot super strong robot wife."
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>>146696194
Why the fuck are you talking to a troll? Get a hint.
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>>146696204
fuck off ningen
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>>146696080
Saiyajin. Not Saiya-Jin.
You baka NINGEN.
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how could they fuck so much
> Trunks keeping up with Black, was the first to get up after taking the Kamehameha
> le final synchro attack by Zamasu and Black, saved by the jobber
> Zamasu gets frightened by ningen tear gas
> Mai stays behind because it's an emotional moment xD
> Zamasu and Gowasu watching recycled on DBS scenes on a fucking television
> Dragon Balls from 2 entire universes are gathered off-screen
> Zamasu knows about Zuno who isn't anywhere near his universe
> Zamasu somehow got as strong as Black (whatever that even means, this episode fucked the power level continuity completely)
> Zamasu and Black can't feel the ki of Goku or Trunks while they're running away
> on one scene Vegeta is lying on the ground near Zamasu in a puff of smoke, on the next he's in the time machine

wow
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>>146696054
Only if Toriyama forced Toei to make Bulma's hair color purple to match the manga, then yes he would have returned as purple.
As of now it's a retcon specifically for Super to make their hair matching again just like in the manga.
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>>146696054

> tfw Trunks will never look this badass again.
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>>146696207
Full Power SSJ2*
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>>146696259
Based Toriyama BTFOing Zfags
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>>146696245
> on one scene Vegeta is lying on the ground near Zamasu in a puff of smoke, on the next he's in the time machine

Did you not see the part where Mai rescued him?
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>>146695677
1. Manga isn't canon
2. Even if it was, SSJ3 ain't shit anymore. It's as useless as Yamcha at this point.
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>>146696259
No, its just to differentiate him between Kid Trunks for whatever reason.
>>146696269
I would love to see what Super would be like in the old artstyle honestly.
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>>146696194
Its just SS4.
The J is added by weeb faggots, we aren't typing or speaking in moon right now.

I'm saying you should just fit the localization, the subs should never read kurririrn or pikkororo or kakorototo.
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>>146696245
>>Zamasu somehow got as strong as Black (whatever that even means, this episode fucked the power level continuity completely)
Power level continuity got fucked the moment Master Roshi was able to hold his own against Frieza's soldiers.
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>>146696245
>Zamasu and Gowasu watching recycled on DBS scenes on a fucking televsion
That was fucking great, especially because Gowasu has an old ass TV
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>>146696343
>Manga isn't canon

Toriyama himself oversees everything and even redraws certain panels if he feels the need to. If anything its more canon than the anime for that very reason. Toriyama only gives Toei rough outlines of what he plans and they go with it from there, Toriyama oversees everything as far as the manga is concerned.
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>I'm tired of this shit being "Goku and Vegeta Show", fucking dropped
>WHAT? TRUNKS IS DOING STUFF? THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE MUH POWER LEVELS, FUCKING DROPPED

I see
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>>146696372
Super isn't canon so...
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>>146696194
>>146696362
Basically if you consider adding the J to be legitimate, then speedy dub is the best and most cannon dub.
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>>146695677

Not sure why people are so surprised.

Remember, this isn't the first time we've seen the power of SSJ2 surpass that of a SSJ3. Pic related.

It's essentially what happened when Gohan and Goku mastered the SSJ1 form, and as a result were able to freely power up huge ammounts as if they were in their base form, but instead they were in Super Saiyan.

I honestly don't think SSJ3 is even natural. Goku created the form himself when his body was weightless, and it's clearly a very unhealthy transformation as well.

Literally every other power up is better than SSJ3.
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>>146696372
Power level continuity was fucked the moment Dr. Gero created Androids vastly stronger than Frieza.
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>>146696418
Not surprising. People don't know what the fuck they want.
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>>146696443
>Super isn't canon so...

How can one fanbase have so many stupid people?
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>>146696418

I'm glad Trunks managed to do shit in this episode instead of being Goku and Vegeta's cheerleader.
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>>146696471
Power level continuity was fucked since the first episode of DBZ.
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>>146696471
It was fucked the moment Frieza revealed he could transform further
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>>146696343
manga and anime have different canon paths, but ultimately it's Toriyama's manuscripts or "plot outlines" that are the "source material".
Because of Toriyama's involvement in the manga more than the anime as confirmed in his Tori/Toyo interview, it's widely accepted as the more coherent and reliable medium.
That's not to say you can just freely use manga events to over-write the anime's events, but you can clearly tell some things are much more coherent such as Trunks being strong as compared to getting 1 shotted by SSJ3 Goku, only to have their power gap downplayed for today's episode as if he's as strong as he was depicted in the manga.
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>>146696362
>The J is added by weeb faggots
actually only murricans say saiyans, in every other country they are saiyajin. So every not murrican use SSJ.
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>>146696245
> Zamasu knows about Zuno who isn't anywhere near his universe

Gowasu literally fucking tells him about Zuno and the DB's in the episode

God I fucking hate retards who don't pay attention and then come to shitpost
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>>146696372
>tfw people think Yamcha and Chiaotzu are weaker than Roshi because of that scene

Come on now.
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>>146696542
>Muh Saiya-People
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uInzbCBRvnw

Fuck off.
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>>146696269
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i like SS2 Goku he is my favorite ship to sail on
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>>146696542
No. Saiyajin is one word, not two. Japan abbreviates it SS. >>146696233
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>>146696575
>Saiya People
Not him but this is gold
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>>146696469
in the monthly manga, SSJ3 goku has to cheat to beat SSJ2+ future trunks.
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>>146696347
>No, its just to differentiate him between Kid Trunks for whatever reason.
no we don't need a dumb differentiation between Trunks. That is not a valid excuse for a retcon that they implemented.
If you were to look back at all the official art, cover art, the kanzenban recolors you would see tha Toriyama have always depicted the Brief family as purple haired.
This was not the case for the anime which was always indecisive with Bulma's color. Toriyama finally fixed this by making them match up once again but now with blue instead of purple.
The only reason Kid Trunks is still purple is because we're already 50 episodes too deep in for retconning Kid Trunks but if you look at BoG concept art you can clearly see he is depicted with a same blue tone as Bulma.
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>>146696194
>getting baited
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How is this any different from Piccolo keeping up with Frost? Trunks was using skill to keep up with Zamasu and he caught Black off-guard.

Jesus people.
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>>146696418
It's an issue because Super put Goku and Vegeta into a tier that's way above everyone else and now Trunks is that strong for no reason with no build up.
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>>146696471
The problem is not just them being more powerful, it's that the characters don't really seem surprised or care that much. Krillin and Gohan were SHIVERING when they felt Frieza flying by because of how overwhelmingly powerful he was even in his weakest form. When they hear news of the Androids being stronger than Frieza the Z Fighters are sort of "Oh that's pretty bad." They don't even question how that's possible or what it implies or anything like that.
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>>146696575
But Saiyan is obviously the equivalent of Saiya People, because it is an arbitrary "localisation"
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>>146695316
>>146695328
>>146695362
>>146695364
>>146695390

Eat a jar of dicks. GT was shit and so is Super.
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>>146695402
What did he wish for?, a copy of his most hated foe but evil?
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I don't know why people still follow this dumb "le manga isn't canon" nonsense. Everything the manga introduces, the anime ends up using later on

Like how suddenly Future Trunks is much stronger than he was portrayed to be in the anime, now matching his manga power. Or how Supreme Kai and Kibito unfused in the manga, then later the anime had them unfused off camera
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>>146696471
I don't agree with this. yeah, it's completely implausible that Gero created those Androids, but once we accept science magic as able to create such strong beings, the power levels become internally consistent within the show.

What we got this episode just completely flew in the face of DB conventions, to the point where even the script writers couldn't suspend their belief (Goku tells Trunks "stay away, these guys are way stronger!")
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>>146696676
MUH POWERLEVELS
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From the preview it looks like Gowasu is going to be kill. Good riddance. Stupid fuck did nothing but give Zamasu more of a reason to go insane. First he takes him to a planet of violent barbarians in order to "learn" about ningens, then he just casually tells him about the Super Dragon Balls while drinking tea and watching KaiTube. Fully knowing that his apprentice is having some issues.
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>>146696690
see you next week, faggot
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>>146696676

To be honest, Piccolo keeping up with Frost makes sense. It's not like Piccolo STOPPED training, so he should be at least around Goku SSJ1 now when fighting at full strength.
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Remember when this guy was literally Satan?
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>>146696685
It's clearly not, because saiya-people sounds retarded. Which is why only weeb faggots say/use SSJ.

I bet you use the jap names for characters when you aren't even speaking japanese. You're a fucking degenerate.
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>>146696690
>GTfag getting salty as fuck
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>>146696756
> From the preview it looks like Gowasu is going to be kill. Good riddance.

ZAMASU!


> Stupid fuck did nothing but give Zamasu more of a reason to go insane.

ZAMASU!

> First he takes him to a planet of violent barbarians in order to "learn" about ningens, then he just casually tells him about the Super Dragon Balls while drinking tea and watching KaiTube. Fully knowing that his apprentice is having some issues.

ZAMASU!
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>>146696756
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>>146696714
>Everything the manga introduces, the anime ends up using later on

Other way around, the anime is ahead, whatever the anime introduces the manga uses later on.

That's because Toriyama gave them both a rough guide of shit that needs to happen, and they both interpret it their own way.

No it isn't that anime is copying off manga like you're saying. The anime has been ahead for ages, but they're working off the same basic script, with a few obvious differences with how they chose to do it.
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>>146696685
>Saiya People
Don't you mean the Space Warriors?
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>>146696817

Piccolo Daimaou looked like DQ character
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>>146696817
If you go by the backstory, he did the same thing Future 17 and 18 did - killed almost everyone on Earth.
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is GodTube how Elder Kai watches his porn?
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>>146696817
Remember when this guy was literally God?
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I literally can't tell whether this ep was good or bad.

On the one hand, we have Black and Zamasu beating the shit out of the ningen. But on the other, power levels get fucked once again, Mai shenanigans are getting bullshit and the jobber has to save the other two while the villains take their sweet time in killing the Saiyans.
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>>146696861

The manga was ahead on the beginning of the tournament arc, when Kibitokai defused.
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>>146696861
there was plenty of events such as the Kai's diffusing which happened when the manga was ahead of the anime. The anime was lagging behind up until Goku vs Frost in the Champa Arc.
In any case they fucked up by making Trunks get 1 shotted by a SSJ3 Goku. I think the manga does a lot better simply because it has Toriyama himself's revisioning keeping it much more in line with his vision. Toei on the other hand always tries to hype things up only to have it backfire on themselves
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>>146696631
>Vegeta caring

d'aw
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any reason for Trunks not to get ssjg now?
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>>146696862
What dub is space warriors from?
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Can someone explain to me how the fuck is SSJ2 Trunks now suddenly on the same level as SSB? Do these forms even mean anything anymore?

Fucking hell. This is the most messed up powelevel episode Super ever had, by far.
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>>146694963
Ningen, I
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>>146697088
>SSB
Don't you mean SSJGSSJB?
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>>146697081
Half human shouldn't be able to go saiyan god.
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>>146696857

I want the part where he keeps saying ZAMASU! looping forever.
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> mfw I just realized what Gowasu was watching

it's why the had that alien host guy, the whole thing was filmed on KaioTube
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>>146697011
Ningen lost, so therefore episode was good. Ningen had to run to past haha bunch of pansy monkeys. Dirty ningen smell REMOVE NINGEN.
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>>146697088
Because Super is retarded shit
Enough said
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>>146697139
Why not?They can contribute to the ritual and it seems its just something you can train anyway
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>>146697088

Who gives a fuck, power levels are shit.
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>>146696971
No
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>>146696861
Are you this retarded? The manga comes up with things first.

The manga was the first to mention Beerus being dead in the future, and Beerus being linked to Supreme Kai
The manga was the first to show Trunks being this strong. The manga was the first to reveal Champa's plot. The manga was the first to reveal how to unfuse. Doesn't matter if the timeline is behind, they still mention alot of smaller details before the anime
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>>146697088
The only explanation I can give is that Trunks got his hits after surprising them. So Goku got their full attention, and then Trunks would come in causing them to shift gears.
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>>146697088
If it makes you feel any better Trunks is stronger in the manga, rivalling SS3 Goku and needing God Ki to have been put down during their sparring match.
see:
>>146696631
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>>146697081
Now that he's back to the past, hopefully he'll get some training.

>>146697088
>caring about powerlevels
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>>146695920
>She probably died for good this time. Or maybe there was something that Bulma sent them that could help them stay alive until they come back. But I doubt they would pull the same stunt twice with her character.
Nah I don't think she's dead. Didn't her voice actress say she would voice Mai in every episode in this arc?
I doubt we're getting an assload of lil' Mai when they go back to the future.
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When will his suffering end lads? The small glimmer of hope he had from seeing Mai alive and holding her hands just got crushed in front of him. He can't catch a fucking break can he?
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>>146697086
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozM3Chgvq-o

Big Green
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>>146697263
>He can't catch a fucking break can he?
That's the price you pay for being a shit character thrust into the spotlight.
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>>146695677
>He's powered uo nearly the same amount as Goku has in SS3

I call this bullshit. Goku's power now, in his SS3 form, should be around 1.450.000.000 meanwhile a SS2 Trunks shouldn't even surpass 500.000.000
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>Yajirobe of all characters has done more in the fight against Black than Gohan

Gohanfag on suicide watch.
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>>146697263
Just stay the fuck away from him, even Beerus in his timeline died.
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>Black is now stronger than SSB
Okay, that's a big jump but at least he's shown to rapidly grow in strength previously.
>Zamasu is now at SSB level
What? How the fuck did he get so strong so fast?
>SSJ2 can match both Zamasu and Black
WHAT.

What the fuck is going on?
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>>146697252
why doesnt zamasu blow her ningen ass up
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>>146697263
They'll find a way somehow.
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>>146697314
Nice headcanon.
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We can all agree the actual fight had movie quality animation right
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>>146697263
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>>146695153

>have to fight a literal god
>FUCK THIS

Well at least it's realistic.
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>>146696412
Niggas stop peddling lies to make yourselves look better. The manga and anime are divergent canons that are both canon to the original, but only in-continuity with themselves. Leave it at that.
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>>146697340
>What? How the fuck did he get so strong so fast?

Please do not confuse with current Zamasu with Future Zamasu.
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>>146697314
I guess he found a way to strecth out ssj2 power
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>>146697284
Is Krillin voiced by Laura Bailey?
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>>146697263

Considering he along with his mother are the degenerates responsible for multiple timelines, he deserves every bit of suffering they've reaped.
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>>146697263
Dragon Balls will bring back his mom and gf back to life so don't worry.

Wait why didn't they use the Dragon Balls to bring back Gohan in the first place?
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>>146697340
trunks' ssj2 is stronger than goku's
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>>146697369
> ningen of life
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Dragon Ball Super is a 10/10 show

best anime
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Does he wish for immortality?
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>>146697343
Fuck if I know. All I know is what the voice actress said and honestly I was expecting her to say that just because we'd have a little side plot of kid Trunks and loli Mai but here we had adult Mai again, so for all we know we'll get some more of her. Trunks gotta have at least one hope spot I guess, especially since Vegeta started shipping that.
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>>146697428
Dende and Piccolo died so there were no dragonballs
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>>146697428
Piccolo is kill
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>>146697369
Don't worry Trunks.
Once the future is saved. You two will surely get down to business, with that dirty hand holding
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>>146696817
>mfw Goku will have to use Mafuba to stop Zamasu because his inmortal
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>>146697469
I mean in the main universe they could just use Shenron to bring back Gohan from the other Universe back to life.
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>>146695920
>>146697252
At most, Mai will be in some big trouble and Trunks will have to save her or something like that. But she won't die.
She's even getting some new clothes soon.
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>mfw I come into a DBS thread and see retards complaining about shit not "making sense"
>in dragon ball
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>>146697464
He wishes for a friend who will be his besty until the very end.
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>>146697155
If a small tourney between two universes was broadcasted throughout all universes, imagine the multiverse tourney, it's going to be Dark Tournament levels
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>>146697485
If she's still alive that is.
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>>146697439
>trunks' ssj2 is stronger than goku's

So? It's been established that SSB is enough to OHKO SSJ2 Trunks. THIS HAS BEEN SHOWN.

It makes no sense no matter which way you look at it.
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>>146697469
And the last wish made to the Shenlong was from Pilaf gang.
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>>146697467
Sure but this whole resistance thing is ridiculous.
If Zamasu just blew up the town from a distance everyone there would be dead.
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>>146697408
No, she voices Kid Chi-Chi and Trunks.
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>>146697516
Oh. Yeah I totally forgot about that.
Maybe Trunks going off on his own to tale her back to the past even against her will maybe with a love confession and hand holding?
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>>146696372
No, power level continuity was fucked forever when they made Gokus base form around as strong as his God form, but still made him able to go SSJ anyway.
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>>146697519
Seriously, why do these people care so much about things making sense in a series where anyone can blow up a planet and put any object in capsules, and the president of the world is a dog man?
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So what would happen if you got two different dragons, summoned them, and left the two together facing each other? Would they talk? Would they make a wish for each other?
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>>146697541
Well if Toei ever told us anything.
If they market someone, then they will not let it die if there is money in it *couch* Vegeta jobbing *couch*
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>>146697516
So Future Trunks and Mai will join the main cast?

How can Young Mai beat her future self?
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>>146697646
Theyd make out.
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>>146697314

Welp, the power scale became useless ages ago. Toriyama just does what comes out of his ass at this point, he just doesn't care anymore.
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did they ever explain how Mai survived a blast head on?

Is the Pilaf gang immortal?
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>>146697464
No. He wishes to become Goku, then splits for the past.
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So there are 10 universes where God of Destruction exist and 5 already made timelines, how Zamasu actually is going to destroy all ningens if it took him years to deal with Earth and Trunks, when they are not even strongest in the current universe? Or he is just sadistic buttblasted beta who wants to take his little revenge over specific group of ningens?

If he already defies all rules why he won't just run back in time and prevent the very first ningens from being born so he would have at least one timeline and universe without ningens? Explain this.
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>>146697510
I dont think thats possible. But maybe the superdraginballs can do it.
>>146697516
How would Trunks ever know?
Maybe they should bring several timemachines to transport everyone to the past.
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>>146697584
Maybe they have some weird contigency plan to get their ass into hiding. I really don't know.
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>>146697644
>President
No, that's the King. Dragon Ball's world is a Monbarky.
Please laugh
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>>146697530
but goku already has a friend for him
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>>146697604
I meant in this alternate dub because Krillin sounded exactly like Kid Trunks in the Funi dub does, but I looked it up and it isn't anyway.
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>>146697703
>So there are 10 universes
There are 12. An idiot like you doesn't deserve to post Wells.
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>>146697673
rerun from Dr. Slumps and occasional Federal Galactic polices announcements.
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>>146697709
>I dont think thats possible. But maybe the superdraginballs can do it.
I hope so. At least bring back Bulma and Mai ;-;
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>>146697682
She can't. But at the same time kid Trunks will crush on older Mai.
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>>146697492
That would actually be interesting. It's not going to happen.
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>>146697754
Man, I hate Omni King so much.
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>>146697693
Has anyone in Dragonball been hit with a generic ki blast and even been injured before?
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>>146697799
Shut up or I'll wipe you.
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>>146697789
Why not actually
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>>146697673
those aerobics program Roshi watches for sure
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>>146697659
That is true. And with how well this Mai has been received I wouldn't even put it past them to have already rewritten some shit.
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>>146697801
Dende
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I almost would have preferred if they haven't told us anything about Zamasu and Black they'll probably ruin this arc even more
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>>146697801
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>>146697801
Vegeta when he asked Krillin to Ki blast him kek.
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Trunks using Final Flash was ebin
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>>146697088
Zamasu deliberately allowed him to land his blows.
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>>146697778
>rerun from Dr. Slump
Original 81 or the 97 remake?
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>>146696971
>GodTube
That actually exists.
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>>146697769
Fuck off edgelord.
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>>146695481
What can you retards not understand?
The Zamasu they saw in the future is not the same Zamasu from the present
At this point your chumps should seriously go get your heads checked, i am not kidding
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>>146697824
I wasn't talking, I was typing. How can I shut up? Apologize.
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>>146697786
>kid Trunks will crush on older Mai
That will be pretty fun to see.
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>>146697859
>genocide breaker
>generic ki blast
pick one

we are tlaking about those tiny balls that they shoot all the time and dont do shit
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This series becomes more and more retarded with each minute passing.

>suddenly FUCKING SS2 TRUNKS can defend against Zamasu and Black Rose and even attack them

But, well, retarded fanboys and fujoshis won't mind any shit thrown at them.
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>>146697516

Awesome,
is there a pic of her new full outfit?
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So, is Black or Zamasu the main antagonist here?
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>>146697723
I smiled. I didn't laugh but I smiled.
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>>146697464
He probably wishes that the time ring can go back in time.
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>supreme kai next week
nice
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>>146697943
That's the only other pic.
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>>146697921
Gotta make the fan art canon
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>>146697914
Using translator that voices for me to understand your shitty language that is called English.
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>>146697936
>Says OnePiecefag
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>>146697936
>Wan Piss fag looking down on anyone
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>>146697981
Probably Beerus telling him to not fucking die
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>>146697983
What do the moon runes next to her say?
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>>146697936

> wanpiss
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>>146697981
Two weeks, I think they're on a break next week.
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So how does Gowasu not suspect fucking ANYTHING from Zamasu at this point?
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>>146698056
break is the week after next
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>>146698056
i thought it was the week after the next.
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>>146697769
> An idiot like you doesn't deserve to post Wells.

And you wife sleeps with another man.
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>>146697961
I'll take it!
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>>146697936
he wasnt even able to do any damage.
You faggots and your "if someone is a higher level then everyone below cant touch them!" wouldnt be able to write a proper show to save your lifes.

The idea that somehow every other character would be useless has been demonstrated tons of times to be simply untrue, and you wanted Trunks to just sit there being harmless.
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>>146698027
That's a preview to next week's episode, it's just saying that she decided to stay in the future to help the resistance.
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>>146697936
At least DBS MC isn't getting his ass beat by a guy whos powers are literally crackers and biscuits and crackers
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>>146698088
>watching Goku on god tube
>Zamasu looking obviously pissed as hell at the tv
>h-hey what are those big orange thingies
>oh they grant any wish you'd want
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>>146698027
my moonspeak is not that good but it's something about "pleasure" and "inside"
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>>146698089
>>146698096
Oh, excellent.
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>those combos on Black and ZAMASU
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>>146698140
ZAMASU!
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>>146698088
>It's just a phase
>it will go away
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>>146698140
ZOBOOMAFOO
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>>146698131
I thought the ones directly besides her were a comment on her outfit honestly. But well as long as they don't outright say she's dead I'm good I guess.
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>>146697956
>>146697956
>>146697956
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I bet you "muh power level" fags would get triggered by pic related, where characters constantly fight against characters fight against enemies 20-50 times stronger than them on average and win or at least put up a good fight.
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Zamasu and Black are going to fuse. That's why they've mentioned fusion twice this arc, otherwise it'd be wasted foreshadowing. Gogeta/Vegetto could also appear, but I think that they've tried to drill the idea that Vegeta and Goku are too proud to do that.
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>>146698229

Yajirobe didn't die when he was killed,
she'll be OK
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>>146698140

>Switches between glaring intensely at the TV and asking questions about wish granting orbs
>Suspect nothing
>Ask for more tea
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>>146698298
I recognize Ox King, Mercenary Tao, and General Blue,
But who are the other characters?
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>>146698313
Yeah but wouldn't it make sense that they get over their pride in this case and do the fusion?
I honestly don't see what else they could do.
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>>146698332
Let's be honest a lot of characters in the series has taken a hole in the chest and survived.
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>>146698313
>fuses
>completely white haired SSG
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>all those retards trying to sell this shit , twisting everything around to make it seem like gold

>Mai saves the day

Oh weeeeee

>Mai survives

Oh weeee

>Zamasu/Black don't simply destroys the Earth

Oh weeee

>Vegeta jobbed, Goku jobbed, but SS2 Trunks not

Oh weee

>Kamehameha and that combined energy attack did little to no environment damage but easily knocks down Goku Blue

Ohhh weeeeee

And the list goes on.
Animay fans are worse the MylittlePony worshippers.

QED
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>>146697983
Zamasu did 9/11!?
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>>146698088
Maybe all apprentice Kais have an edgy phase that goes away as they learn more about ningens, or maybe none of the past edgy Kais used the super dragon balls so they weren't a big threat worth worrying about.
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>>146698332
That and her seiyuu commenting on her having an important role this arc.
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>>146698332
He survived because of a SENZU BEAN

And then Korin died

Korin/Yajirobe is canon now
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>>146698367
>not recognizing Majin Buu with Mr. Popo absorbed
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>>146698372
It would make sense, but I think that's something they should save for later. U12 Tourny arc is soon, and then there'll be something after that. Fusion now seems like a waste and would make it mundane later. Unless Zamasu/Black are going to re-appear then fusing them wouldn't be such a big deal.
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>>146698409
>Posting like a ningen
Disgusting.
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>>146698409
>>Zamasu/Black don't simply destroys the Earth
That's because they don't want to destroy it.
Zamasu's whole thing is that filthy Ningen are destroying planets with their constant fighting. He wants to keep them pristine.
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>>146698228
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everything past frieza isnt canon so you retards can stop arguing about ssj2 and ssj3 because they arent even canon for christs sake
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>>146698298
>retards ITT claim this is DB

Oh hey, yes, DB was all about retarded forced tryard drama, and all inconsistencies.
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>>146698367
Ultraman, Jagi, E. Honda, Stroheim, Black Ranger, and Black Power Ranger.

Seriously though read Kinnikuman it's really good. It's the granddaddy of battle shonen and even invented power levels. Difference is though it doesn't get autistic with them.
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>>146698334
didn't he instant transmission.
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>>146698512
>being this retarded
wew
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>>146698512
DBZ was, yes.
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I'm willing to give up being on model if it can be more like this.
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>>146698512
>Oh hey, yes, DB was all about retarded forced tryard drama, and all inconsistencies.
I can't even tell if this suppose to be sarcastic or serious.
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>>146698512
>DB was all about retarded forced tryard drama, and all inconsistencies.
You can't have inconsistencies or drama if you only have about 12 episodes that aren't filler.
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>>146698334

>Goku pushes trunks out of the way even though Black would never hit either of them
>Neither counter attack when they get grabbed when they were trading blows much faster than the few seconds it takes for Goku to mutter something.
>Goku doesn't use instant transmission to get them all out of range >explosion isn't even that big
>Trunks survives at all
>Trunks is still in SS form when weaker kicks knock him out of it.

I'm not sure why I'm still here.
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>>146697923
It's not my fault the games give a name to every fucking action the characters do
It's a generic ki blast in the manga/anime
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>>146697516

kinda weird seeing Mai potentially being part of the main group after being a gag character in DB
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anyone have a webm of Trunks using Final Flash?
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>>146698512
The whole Piccolo arc was. So was all of Z.
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>>146698372
>I honestly don't see what else they could do.
There are a few extreme options they could use and probably won't:
>Collect the super dragon balls and wish something useful
>Mafuba
>Pull a Frost and try chemical warfare, ask Bulma to develop a strong poison or something
>Try to get Buu to absorb them (doubt it would work though)
>Hire Hit to kill them
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Can't wait to see the manga version of this fight. The fight was awesome here except for the end, the ending was stupid
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when?
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>>146698614

I want to see the Black vs. Goku scene in webm form too. That bit was fucking flawless.
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>>146697516
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>>146695921
goku states he PROBABLY could've beaten both fat buu and kid buu with it, but he fucked around too much both times, so we'll never know for sure.
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>>146698733
I'll sum it up for you
>SSR
>Vegeta stabbed in a second
>Zamasu shows up too early
>Goku beats them
>straight into the next arc
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>>146698741

Trunks was never involved in the God ritual, and so he never absorbed any God Ki to unlock through training. It's likely impossible for him to achieve the form.
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>>146698639
At least she has a second chance at life. I bet after all this time she's still a virgin. Like I'm not even trying to be a waifufag she does nothing but hang out with Pilaf and Shu and we have never even once seen anything suggesting she had a relationship beforehand.
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>why didn't Goku use IT to get out of the way!!!!

did you retards already forget that Goku can't use IT when under that kind of pressure i.e. during Buu destroying earth
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>>146698355
I feel with every offense Zamasu does Gowasu gets less worried.
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>>146696259
so then why does kid trunks still have purple hair.

they are the same fucking character, so it's bullshit, especially when they could've EASILY just said he dyed it or it somehow miraculously changed colors after he killed cell.

but nope. future trunks always had blue hair now and trunks doesn't.
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>>146698781

The mustard gas some insane power level.
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>>146698781
Could you make a webm of Goku vs Black and Zamasu animated by shida
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No, with DB I mean Dragon Ball before DBZ.

King Piccolo arc is not tryhard forced drama, it's well executed.

And then

>people are even defending all those blatant inconsistencies even within an arc and are not joking

No wonder they don't even try anymore with such a retarded fan base (I assume the retards in Japan will be about the same as you folk).

It's like watching an Alzheimer's show.
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>>146693449
After RoF, Super's not that bad.

>"Le Goku Show" memes are weightless once you realize that Goku won less fights than Vegeta in the tournament.
>Goku isn't the fucking messiah like in GT as he didn't win the tournament and Black is outright superior to him.
>More variety in powers and techniques.
>New characters are mostly fun for the most part such as Hit, Black, Zamasu, Zeno, Vados.
>Super is no longer afraid to get violent sonce we had two violent scenes such as Zamasu slicing a humanoid alien in half and Vegeta coughing out blood after being skewered by Black.
>Plot is standard DragonBall on steroids with villains that are seemingly impossible to kill and martial arts tournaments that span universes.

It's not that bad, but a lot of the problems lie with Toei being shit. Had this series been given to better animation studio as anyone who isn't fucking retarded would bring their A-Game when animating for an ultra popular series like DragonBall, then Super would be a solid 8/10 after RoF.
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>>146698781
raw where?
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>>146698819
Judging by how she thought hand holding was something very lewd, then it's only natural to guess that she's still a virgin.
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>>146698817
One, the ritual doesn't give anyone but the main recipient god ki.
Two, you don't need to be a part of the ritual to attain it or have god ki to begin with. Vegeta trained under Whis and had no experience with God ki.
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>>146698817
Vegeta wasn't part of the ritual either.
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NEW THREAD >>146698837
>>146698837
>>146698837
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>>146698733
>the ending was stupid
The manga will probably be better in that regard. Like it has been most of the time.
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Hey remember that one time when Tien?
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>>146698912
It works
https://youtu.be/8qPkyLwJG-w
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>>146698781
>>146698890
>use tactical smoke grenade
>whip out future rail gun
>shoot black in the heart and zamasu in the face
>arc over
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>>146698639
I hear you. But it's kinda pleasant too. Then again Future Mai is a decidingly different character.
I wonder how they make her part of the main crew?
The entire bad future gets erased and everyone living their is transported into the main line?
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>>146698817
either they offscreened vegeta for the ritual or it wasn't needed for him.

either way, if vegeta could do it, so can trunks unless he has to be a full-blooded saiyan which would be bullshit.
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>>146698899
>King Piccolo arc is not tryhard forced drama
Did you even read/watch it?
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>>146698926
...are you fucking retarded?
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>>146698902
>replying to a stupid shipperfaggot
Don't.
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>>146698932
Why does this faggot always try and shill the manga on /a/? Who's paying you?
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>>146698983
Yes I did, because I am not an underage retard like the most of the bunch here.

If you think DB Super is anything but mediocore at best, you should reflect a bit more by activating your brain, or what is left of it.
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>>146698971
>it wasn't needed for him.
It wasn't needed. Vegeta's whole thing is that he didn't want to rely on anyone but himself for power but swallowed a portion of his pride to get training from Whis.
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>>146697673
Cory in the house
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>>146698922
>>146698926

We literally saw the god Ki flowing through his body along with everyone else. Everyone got the God Ki, it's just Goku who had the 5 minute Red form to use.

There's no way Vegeta could just magically attain God Ki through training for a few months. He can barely double his strength in a year.
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>>146698985
No you are you dipshit. You don't need the ritual to have god ki, as proven by Vegeta
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>>146699056
>Yes I did
And you still think it wasn't forced or tryhard given the previous tone of the series.
Are you retarded?
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>>146699054
not him but it goes without saying that the manga is levels above the anime in terms of consistency, art quality, fight choreography etc.
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>>146698334
we all know they are not trying but can't they pretend just a little bit that they do?
this is just laughable at so many levels I don't even know what to say
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>>146699100
did you even read what you posted you fucking idiot? So was it fucking Puar instead of Vegeta in the circle?
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>>146698899
What the fuck are you even going on about anyways.
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>>146699097
It can't be proven or disproved, so there's no use arguing over what you assumed happened.
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>>146699128

But the manga makes a lot of poor storytelling decisions. Goku cheating in his fight against Trunks, Goku managing to bring back the Red God form that was only supposed to act as a 5 minute sample that one time, and Piccolo complaining to Frost that he isn't going to power down for him. The manga makes huge mistakes with its use of characters, the way they act, and the general story. It's a side product, not the real deal.
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>>146698932
Seconded

Atleast in the manga, you can make your own transition from panel to panel, creating a less retarded, inconsistent experience.

In the manga, you can still think of Trunks having the same hair colour like in the series before, instead of switching hair colour.

I bet all those retards here wouldn't even complain if Goku's SS form would suddenly lead to green hair.
The fanbase is even just a level below MLP community.

It's pathetic
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>>146698966
I'm curious to the future of the Pilaf gang in the modern timeline myself. I think it's pretty obvious that Trunk and Mai will settle down at some point. What about Pilaf and Shu? I don't think they will give a shit about ruling the World anymore with Mai out of the picture and will probably go their separate ways to do their own thing.
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>>146698332
Wasn't this Goku's fever dream?
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>>146699274
No, it was a flashback from a filler episode.
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how do u guys stomach techs like final flash being wall level
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>>146699250
>But the manga makes a lot of poor storytelling decisions. Goku cheating in his fight against Trunks
as opposed to getting BTFO'D and 1 shotted? Wowwww
>Goku managing to bring back the Red God
Not as bad as Kaioken breaking power scales and moving so fast you can go through stopped time. At least Tokitobashi is well descibed of it's pros and cons that Goku outsmarts in the manga. Also Goku went Red all on his own in the movie too.
Even if it started as a side product, it stays true to the source plot outline and has Toriyama reviewing every single panel so it stays true to his vision. I think the anime fails in a lot of places that I just have to turn my brain off to enjoy.
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Just saw the episode. What's up with future Zamasu? The power levels are wack.
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>>146699128
>not him but it goes without saying that the manga is levels above the anime in terms of consistency, art quality, fight choreography etc.
Fight and art quality yes but consistency takes a nose dive. Especially when things are randomly explained away in a single panel with no foreshadowing whatsoever.
Also they can't seem to decide on if the god power is really strong or really weak considering Goku needed it to cheat against Trunks yet it absolutely demolished Hit who had several hundred years of training and power above him.
Would that mean that Trunks is stronger than Hit or what?

Also the manga makes Vegeta look a whole lot worse. I mean, he couldn't even move Magetta without insulting him and was demolished by Hit
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>>146699462
>and was demolished by Hit when he should have been across that power threshold to over power Hit's timestop
My bad clicked before I was done.
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>>146695631
Human-Saiyans are naturally powerful as even DBS Vegeta commented on how Gohan's potential could have allowed him to surpass them all. F.Trunks isn't a faggot like Gohan, Goten, and Kid Trunks. It's pretty damn clear that he's going to be extremely powerful by the end of this arc.

How would current Trunks fare against the Buu Saga characters specifically the Buus, Ultimate(kek) Gohan, Gotenks, and Vegito?
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>>146695820
He's a better hero than Goku and Vegeta, isn't a retard as he stopped Buu's awakening, and he also trains. Trunks deserves the Z-Gohan treatment more than Gohan does.
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>>146699144
You fucking autist, you don't absorb god ki just by being part of the ritual
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>>146699596
>Fat - Win because he's retarded
>Super - Absorbed like everyone else was
>Kid - lose but hold out longer than Vegeta did
>Gohan - lose
>Gotenks - win by time out
>Vegito - double lose
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>>146699261
They could get Goten to replace Mai.
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>>146699462
>Trunks yet it absolutely demolished Hit who had several hundred years of training and power above him.
Not only did Hit completely dodge Goku's last climactic Kamehameha he couldn't even use his assasination techiniques and fight at full power.
The end results of that arc was the same with Goku conceding and throwing the fight simply becaue Hit wasn't fighting with his full potential.
So no, Hit didn't get owned at all.
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>>146699596
I think he'd beat the Buus and Gotenks, not Gohan and not Buuhan or Buutenks. Certainly not Vegetto.
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>>146698964
Zamasu can't die
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>>146700243
Kill the god of destruction he's tethered to then.
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>>146699740
or Pan
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>>146699863
>Not only did Hit completely dodge Goku's last climactic Kamehameha
Which doesn't even make any sense mind you.
In the anime he dodged it because he started to push his abilities.
In the manga, despite being over powered while going all out (keeping in mind that he did use all of his power and that power =/= techniques), he just did with no explanation whatsoever and regained that composure he had before after a hell of a lot of panicking.

>The end results of that arc was the same with Goku conceding and throwing the fight simply becaue Hit wasn't fighting with his full potential.
Sorry but there's a difference. Goku had pushed Hit further than he had before and vice versa for Goku but Goku still wanted to go beyond that in typical fashion because he knew Hit could if he used his assassination techniques.
In the manga Goku pushed Hit to the brink but Goku went nearly untouched despite Hit using all of his power. In fact, even though Hit was a professional assassin and stays in shape his body supposedly couldn't hold out for very long because he hadn't done it in a while.
Anyway, Goku has no reason to assume those techniques would help since he broke Hit's ability and outsped him by a large margin.

Anyway, Hit was absolutely demolished in the manga but Goku gave up for no particular reason.
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how the fuck did he collect the super dragon balls so fat
they are supposed to be big deal
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>>146700327
>To beat a literal god you must beat a god who is capable of ending a universe
That's like having to choose between getting your dick or anus shot at.
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>>146700416
Holding Zuno at ki point.
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>>146700416
Don't make fun of his weight.
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>>146700400
nothing compares to the shit that was increasing the Tokitobashi duration on a whim simply because "muh growth!" or stacking multipliers so that you can move faster than stopped time in the Anime.
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>>146700416
>Zuno has been brought up by Gomasu
>A recent episode has established that Kais can move faster than Whis
>Zamasu isn't retarded. He's a prodigy, so he's smarter than all the kais we've seen.
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>>146700585
>Move faster than stopped time
Goku is a fucking beast. That's why.
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>>146700585
>nothing compares to the shit that was increasing the Tokitobashi duration
He's been alive for 1000 years anon and has been acting as a professional assassin for most of it. His key technique is the time stop.

A key part of dragonball is that characters improve over time. Hit has had more than enough time to improve it but never saw the need until Goku came along.
This was literally all said in the anime.

>or stacking multipliers
Not inherently bad anon. If it was as inconsistent as the manga then you'd have a point.

>so that you can move faster than stopped time in the Anime
Considering Dragonball as a franchise that's pretty tame also everything has a limit that can be broken by speed.
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This show could have been so much better were there a more concentrated and tighter focus on the premise that the literal Gods of the universe are getting too hands on with things after the Supreme Kai came on the scene with the Buu Saga. As it is right now, the ideas are there but the execution is so roughshod with writing and pacing and such all over the place I can barely tell what Super is anymore. The mystery of Zamasu and Black Goku could have been so much better than whatever this is right now. As much as a slog as GT was, at least it stuck to its premise, bringing about a relatively smooth climax with the Shadow Dragons. Super just feels so small and inconsequential by comparison, being taken to the three same locations every episode.

I've also yet to really see the point behind Super Saiyan God. It's done no one literally any favors and has yet to really churn out any good feats barring the return of Kaio Ken.

Though I suppose Super Saiyan 4 ended up being not all that different by the time Super 17 came on.
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>>146700797
at the expense of making Vegeta a complete jobber in comparison? At least the manga keeps Vegeta's character intact by explaining that transforming into a God form multiple times in succession is tolling.
In the Anime Vegeta's power is insignificant in comparison to SSBxKK10 Goku and had to dedicate a whole filler arc to make Vegeta's clone seem strong in comparison.
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>>146700609
Feel free to explain how he can move a planetsized Dragon balls together.
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>>146700894
>Not inherently bad anon. If it was as inconsistent as the manga then you'd have a point.
the anime is more inconsistent than the manga. Just look at how making Trunks seem powerful has paid off in comparison to getting 1 shotted by a mere SSJ3 Goku. That's BoG levels of weakness.
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