>>146619114
You posted them senpai
First Yaoi ship, still best Yaoi ship.
DemUsafags BTFO!
>>146619114
you already posted it.
SOON
>>146619114
I have no OTPs, but since I'm currently watching AssClass this is breddy good
>>146619114
>>146620262
I remember when people told me Battery wasn't going to be gay
>>146619114
why do fujos ruin everything
>>146620023
Karma a best with anyone
>>146620937
the sooner you accept that they're married the better off you'll be.
This rapist, cool as anything but fuck contracts, a fan of cats I think
>>146620832
This episode even had gay ntr.
S3 WHEN
>>146621099
Albert didn't deserve Franz, he can go back to blue dicks
>>146620076
too bad rin + nitori's love is eternal
>>146619114
___Me x You
>>146621563
>tfw these two will never get the dicking they deserve
>>146619114Karasu x Kurama
Been my otp ever since I first watched YYH
>>146622213
Aomine/Kami/Kuroko is better-
>>146622720
They probably dick each other every night though.
>>146619114
>not homOTP
>>146622772
They have to make do with that but it is not each other's dick they desire
>>146623454
I wish for the Battle Lovers to gangbang them and mindbreak their silly childish minds.
>>146620832
Kek, I remember that "novel anon".
>>146622968
>shipping god and the devil
>>146623726
>not shipping god and the devil
>>146623726
When god is a raging homusexual, and the devil only became the devil out of love for god, it's pretty hard not to ship them.
Fuck CLAMP forever
This is the hill I've chosen to die upon.
>>146624946
ouch.
>>146625073
DELETE THIS.
>>146624946
What happened to the series? I stopped reading around afterYuukodied
>>146624946
Modern CLAMP at the masters when it come to blueballing people, I swear.
Had they found a way to de gay Toya and Yukiko in CCS sequel yet?
>>146625733
>What happened to the series?
Nothing happened.
>>146625712
Hello?
>>146619114
>>146621456
Forever and always ruining my life.
>>146625073
Fantastic hill to die on, friend.
>>146625766
>>Had they found a way to de gay Toya and Yukiko in CCS sequel yet?
They are best friends!
>>146626535
DioJona is bretty good.
every thread
>>146626648
They really are. They hit pretty much everything I want in a ship, and they've gotten thousands of beautiful pics over the years. I have it so fucking bad for them.
>>146619114
Naruto x sasuke.
>>146626633
Sakura's otou-san pls, pls don't tell me you thought they were studying those times when Yukito stayed over
>>146628402
What else would two teenager boy locked in a room do together, anon?
>>146628445
literally worst homo ship ever featuring fashion disaster
Don't judge me.
>all this seasonal shit
>>146628445
How canon are these guys? I've been planning on watching this for a while
>>146628858
Well, this season has some of the most powerful homolust of all time (Zesty, Nagito)
カヲシン
>>146629100
>>146628455
As long as they're not doing any adult and inappropriate things that would make yourimaginarygirlfriend jealous, like watching Power Rangers
Easy
>>146626765
My nigger
>>146619114
they literally complete each other
>>146629013
I've never been so salty after watching a show, but this one managed to do it
This thread x me
>>146619114
>>146628611
INDIRECT KISS
>>146632179
>>146629013
sauce?
>>146633612
Some shitty /m/ show.
>>146631662
Who haven't you forgotten still?
>>146633612
Cross Ange
>>146634297
he looks so precious
and that shot is from kageyama's pov
>>146629013
Edit?
>>146631662
>>146634297
Is Haikyuu really worth the watch? I've watched 2 eps and I don't really like the character designs nor the main character. Yet everyone speaks like it's every fujo's dream show.
>>146635676
It's not even a fujo show, fujos just happen to like it. Hinata takes some getting used to at first because it's easy to see him as being some sort of Naruto-esque freak but I think by the time they get Asahi back on the team you'd actually come to appreciate Hinata a bit more and realize he's nothing like Naruto, even if he never becomes your favorite character. At the very least, his interactions with the rest of the team aren't boring, and the rest of the team itself's not boring either. S3 drops in October, so now's a great time to catch up if you want to join us HQfags in the threads when they start up again.
>>146628556
Fuck you, Hot Topic shopper.
>>146628943
They're as canon as two guys who fight each other and fall in love in the middle of their battle and decide to take on the world together rather than ever face it alone again tend to be.
>>146635991
Sold.
>>146635676
from a fujo aspect, i'd say definitely watch it. especially if you like characters who complement and depend on each other, and have a really strong bond.
the show tends to beat you over the head with some things, but, thank god, kageyama and hinata's relations away from the court and volleyball isn't one of them. you get to see how much they depend on each other on court because it's repeated ALL the time, but you get to decide how close they are off court by yourself.
also bare in mind that S2 is much better, and the best episodes are the ones with really subtle hints about how each of them is feeling about a certain situation.
>>146619114
>>146635676
I watch it for the secondary characters, Kageyama and Hinata are shit.
>>146635899
>>146636631
>>146636875
Fair enough, maybe it's also just my huge expectations that keep it from appealing to me. The hype is everywhere after all. And after marathoning JoJo and KnB the Haikyuu characters look more like kids than high schoolers, so I just need to get those series out of my mind first.
>>146635991
I'm gonna watch it just for the trap character
>>146636875
which ones?
>>146634704
PLEASES OLD MEN FOR MONEY
>>146636875
The secondary characters and the guys from the other schools are what keep me into this show. It's a real treat that rival teams have people in them as interesting as the members of the main team, and that the "big two" of the main team have to contend with their own teammates as being the real draw.
>>146622508
I tried really hard to convince myself I'm above this kind of degeneracy. I really did.
>>146622508
>>146638166
>degeneracy
i'm intrigued, what's this from?
>>146638610
Mob Psycho 100
>>146638701
>28 year old and a 14 year old
damn, now that's what i called degeneracy.
>>146636875
>>146637902
>Secondary Characters
I'm mostly here for Oikawa.
>He's only going to be in one episode of season 3 at most
Liking secondary characters is suffering.
>>146638166
>>146622508
>shipping degeneracy
>>146639871
But TeruMob is boring as fuck.
>>146620023
My nigga
First Homo pairing I've ever liked
>>146639931
>boring
>hating pure and wholesome ships
>>146640056
I don't hate it at all, I think it's a fine ship. It's just not exciting or interesting to me.
>>146640144
We shall have to agree to disagree.
>>146639346
Only for 10 episodes, but then, it's your dumb fault for being a Seijoufag when they virtually disappear from the manga except for the first years that go to the training camps. Seijou's time is basically over and done; the others still have time to shine.
>>146640604
Wow Anon, contain your salt.
Anyway, I got into the manga/anime before Seijoh was actually 'dead'. Sue me for liking a character even though it's inevitable that they are going to lose (although the same goes for most of the other secondary characters and teams in Haikyuu).
>>146622213
AkaKuro is better though
it is absolute
>>146628445
These two are good but this art is a travesty and not what they are like.
Need more Kowaru X Shinji
>>146637078
The world need more traps like Kazuki.
>>146619114
;_;
>>146642028
>That ending
>that epilogueWill forever be butthurt about how Ash died
>>146638848
Age is just a number. If Mob was 18 but nothing else changed you'd all be shipping the hell out of it.
>>146642028
I need to start this one of these days.
>>146642609
i said it was degenerate, i didn't say i wouldn't ship it.
>>146642651
fug, they're pretty cute. And is it even shota when the kid is mentally in his 20's?
>>146642651
>BokuDake is actually a love story between timetraveling MC and his sensei the villain
I must admit, that took me by surprise.
>>146642825
No, it's just pure love.
Another one.
>>146642349
They were finally going to be happy together. ;_;
>>146642739
MobRei is very pure
>>146619114
Were they trying to make these guys canonically gay in the zestria game?
I mean, their chemistry was nuts, it had to be deliberate right?
>>146642651
>Anime went to zero to homo in one episode
>>146633565
I like the way you think. I wish there were more doujins for them but they get eclipsed by the battery.
>>146643169
considering all the innuendo and subtext, yeah, it had to be.
>>146643295
Oofuri has the best boys and best homo. New season when?
>Kenhina from Hq!!
>EmilLalli from SSSS
>>146643786
>>146643396
Not soon enough. There is plenty of manga material and it still sells well.
>>146643396
Never. I want to see the scene where Tajima pulls Mihashi's shorts down and shows everyone his dick.
>>146628445
RARE
New anime soon. 99% chance it will be shit.
>>146619114
Purest form of love.
>>146628445
This series would have been less gay if they were actually fucking.
JomyXSolider Blue
>>146629605
It was actually sad to see them both ripped to shred by Bernkastel, they had amazing chemistry.
>>146636875
Kageyama is the best, fuck you.
>>146621043
I have never seen a midsection so worthy of tongue worship.
This was my first and favorite
>>146642651
Good pairing. 10/10.
Really looking forward to new season
>>146647659
>>146647758
>>146648110
>>146648385
>>146619114
Does harem count for OTP?
>>146646870
I have.
>>146641694
The offical art had a blast with these two.
>>146648592
When is this happening so I can start paying attention to the show.
>>146649268
Never ever. If Arc 5 gets animated we get more bro scenes though.
>>146648555
Disgusting yaoi
>>146649487
Only reason why I want this show to have more seasons then.
>>146649268
Arc 4 is when bestest best boy Garfield appears, so until then.
>>146649660
Is Garfiel a part of Subaru's harem of handsome men?
>>146649907
More like he's his entire harem
>>146648574
Can be not gay if one of them wears a skirt
>>146650090
Wilhelm was first though. An older, manly man teaching a younger, fool-hearted man how to lead the ropes is the best shit. Shame there's barely any art of them though.
>>146643169
Nips actually consider them to be the official by the Nips.
>>146643169
They never kiss, confess or anything formally canon.
However considering that neither are interested in girls or anoyne else, how close and loyal they are to each other and the way the story ends it is extremely easy to interpret their relationship as gay. Plus the game likes to joke about it.
And even if you consider that they are too pure to be romantically or sexually interested in each other it is undeniable that they are "soulmates".
>>146635991
It's a surprisingly touching story.
>two fucked up, suicidal teenagers came looking for a place to die
>found the meaning of life instead
>>146636678
Top tier taste.
>>146649487
The side-story would have been better if it was an all-boys school instead of co-ed.
>>146626633
But, what do they do when Yukito stays if they're in different school's departments?!?
>>146651549
Nice pic.
I love their relationship.
>>146651900
Absolutely nice taste. Did already finished the boring part? It been so long that I read something of it.
>>146653079
What boring part? Senyuu's plot has been finished for a long time now anon.
>>146619114
I miss them.
>>146652744
They encourage each other to keep studying of course!
I still believe. Fuck Mary.
Just perfect
>>146658120
>all those faggots insisting we'd get no KomaHina or KamuKoma getting BTFO last episode
Is this hope?
Ma bois
>>146628445
Ban is a slut
>>146658334
Reunion
N E V E R
E
V
E
R
>>146658308
I wouldn't count blatant bait that retconned an event ingame to boot as very much of anything though. If they could've done that, they could've easily just had made Komaeda and Hinata meet earlier.
>>146658986
>i-it's just bait
>it d-doesn't c-count
And here I thought this couldn't get any better. Tell me more, please.
>>146659265
All I said was that the blatant, short lived fanservice was nothing to truly celebrate about and did more harm than good. Unless Komaeda is going to be sucking Kamukura cock for the rest of the show, their meeting was kind of pointless. It would've been better integrated if he'd just met Hinata if they were just going to do it so lazily.
>>146659521
>they're not going to interact, stupid fujos
>they interact
>a-all I'm saying is that it didn't really count and it was pointless and it did more harm than good and and and and
Keep going.
It still hurts.
>>146660020
I know that feel.
I miss fishing bros.
All of you have bad taste
>>146619114
I like these two as well and I'm not even gay.
>>146662292
it's hard not to like them when they do things like this.
>>146662034
I have it on excellent authority that I taste great.
>>146660020
Is this show worth of watching?
>>146662837
Yes.
Let me save this thread.
>>146663144
Does the show stop sucking in s2?
>>146662837
Yes, on every level including for the homo.
>>146663361
No.
>>146663144
Im so glad we got official Mika art with his vampire ears.
>>146663144
>>146663361
>>146663428
It sucks so hard.
>>146666092
Why are vampires so gay?
>>146666401
It just comes with the territory.
>>146666646Nutted but he's still sucking.webm
RARE PAIR
>>146666885
The episode was absolutely obscene.
>>146657985
Mary has been trying to sink this ship since she joined the party.
Last volume she went too far.
>>146649008
That is fair. It rivals Karma'sBut neither can touch Haru's armpits.
>>146667214
It's all good. Ranta's going to feed that traitor whore to Lord Skullhell and take his husbando back.
>>146667187
>obscene
That's how I spelldeliciously hot.
>>146666401
I feel that there's something that we've been neglecting this thread.
Not that I have a single /u/ pic on this hard drive, apparently. So here's some more cute boys in love.
>>146668268
>official art
Fuck it, I give up. I don't know how I can be surprised by anything anymore.
>>146668268
This is shopped right? Reverse search only gives me moonrune twatter.
>>146668279
I have the only /u/ picture you guys need~
>>146619114
Cancer
>>146668533
It would just be better that way!
>>146668551
I'm so sorry, I hope your treatments make you better.
>>146619114
Gay shit
>>146668750
>>146668551
>>146668857
>>146668551
If only you had a cute loving boyfriend to help you pull through.
>>146642879
Yeah, that's what I call a 'creative adaptation'.
Canon, one and only.
>>146669921
I CAN'T LIVEEEEE
IF LIVING IS WITHOUT YOU
>>146669921
>>146670308
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opxhUru_sOE
>>146620023
>trap
Doesn't count
>>146670517
Look at this straightfag.
>>146670517
>traps
>not gay
anon...
>>146666401
I wish I knew.
>>146670619
>>146670761
Not him, but traps really aren't gay. And I don't mean that in a good way. They're "draw a girl, call it a boy" 98% of the time.
>>146670504
KEN LEEEEEEEE
>>146670011
Went irreversibly canon once Kotetsu pretty much called him a gift from god in the novel. The whole "fateful attraction" stream of consciousness didn't help things.
>>146670978
True, but they're often a way for people to get into the 'gayer' BL later. Sort of a gateway drug
>>146671119
futa to traps to full blown homo is pretty accurate.
Right here
>>146672235
How gay is this? Is it worth watching for the yuri aspect?
>>146673128
Yeah buddy >>146667513
>>146673190
Well, shit. I guess I'll have to watch this. Should I watch all seasons or just that season? I'm really only interested in the yuri.
>>146673317
It's still light in tone anon but Sunshine is definitely the gayest. Might as well start from here.
>>146673436
Alright, thanks anon.
>>146668706
>OTP
>one person
U wot m8?
>>146628611
Selling his boypussy in the name of revenge.
>>146673436
My favorite couple this season.
I'm happy Sunrise keeps on pandering.
>>146674628
>the joke
>ur head
Although personally I don't agree with this. Griffith is a narcissistic POS, but not that narcissistic.
>>146629813
Kagami is great at writing homolust. The artist likes it too.
>>146675001
Same here.
Sasuga Sunrise.
>>146675099
Aniki and Yumoto's relationship is pure
>>146670504
Is it wrong to fall in love with a serial killer and his wonderfully handsome face?
>>146670011
>>146671054
The best.
>>146651168
IIRC didn't a producer on the game field a "who is the romantic interest?" question by answering "Sorey and Mikleo only have eyes for each other" or something similar?
>>146680056
The scriptwriter said that there was romance in the story, but it was incredibly subdued. He even said they didn't write any romance between Sorey and a female because he's too pure for that, and elaborated on why Alisha and Rose didn't work for him.
>>146680704
Man, for a Japanese non-BL that's almost as good as a "Dumbledore is gay" statement. I'm glad pretty much everyone is on board with them, they're really cute.
>>146680056
the interviews get muddled up, i think. the question was 'There's not much romance this time, is there?' and a shortened version of the answer given is 'Romance is a fun element in terms of character drama, this time we chose to put it on the low priority list. We want Sorey to be a character who grew up pure, chasing his dreams about history and ruins. If we put a prurient man-woman relationship in there, it might just upset the direction we want to go with him.'
in other interviews it was stated that Mikleo is Sorey's 'one and only'. this is also in the game, as one of Mikleo's titles, which if you've never played the game is something you can equip to boost stats. Mikleo gets a few other titles about their relationship with each other that are pretty telling: 'peas in a pod' and 'like water to fish'.
>>146680862
There was also that thing where in Berseria it was said that a seraph/malak telling someone their true name outside of a contract is akin to a love confession, and Sorey knew Mikleo's true name before they contracted.
>>146680784
Yeah, there is still no direct confirmation of intended romance between Sorey/Mikleo so it isn't canon. But it isn't as poorly supported as your seasonal fujobait. Quite the opposite actually.
Most devs don't go out of their way to say their protagonist was not meant to be in a romance in a woman, and then praise his relationship with a male friend as his most important one. It's incredibly roundabout but it's the most we'll get to confirmation.
>>146657985
Being this wrong.
>>146681168
that, too, yeah. plus the DLC skit with Zaveid here >>146643338 which used the word for romantic love, and Mikleo being used alongside Sorey in all the Tales marketing, which is usually the heroine's thing.not that they could use Rose or Alisha without their HQ being burned to the ground...
>>146680056
It was the script writer who confirmed that there is no M/F romance in Zestiria and that one wouldn't have worked for Sorey.
The producer when asked about the relationship between Sorey and Mikleo literally just quoted the game script, said script refers to Mikleo as Sorey's one and only.
>>146681514
Even before the controversy they still pointed out that neither girl was really the heroine, but either way any female option for Sorey was destroyed the game itself.
>>146681415
>Manato is feeling those pits against him
>>146681415
I haven't watched Grimgar yet, but Manato is really beautiful.
>>146682727
Daryun's such a fucking 10/10 stud.
>>146619114
I'm glad their gameis on Steam.
>>146683072
The game itself isn't very good,hilariously enough because of waifufagging.
Pure bro love
>>146683167
Even disregarding the waifufagging though, the battle system/armatization mechanic and the camera sucked.
>>146683167
>>146683203
I guess. But I'm easy to please.
>>146683072
me too, but i wish it was better. they deserved better.
>>146683203
Actually the waifufagging may be the reason for those problems because the forced inclusion of a certain character happened when the game was entering quality control so they had no time to fix the game's problems, and said character's inclusion exasperated an preexisting problem of armatization if it wasn't meant to work differently.
>>146683072
They deserved a better game though.
Luckily the anime is fixing up the story so it isn't pure shit but they can't fix a boring premise like Zestiria without a huge overhaul. Atleast they're pandered to harder but I can't be assed to watch such a boring show when they're not around.
>>146684018
hopefully tomorrow's episode will be the super gay reunion. if they stretch it to two episodes with no cute gays together it's going to be pretty annoying.
>>146683938
I kind of doubt they had the entire game written before they crammed Rose in there though.
>>146684165
I'm kind of disappointed they didn't fight and most likely won't have the tickle fight make up scene though
>>146684183
From the evidence it seems as though they did, and then they had to rewrite the story to include her, it's especially obvious in the manga, and you get to Rose's past the entire event is completely disconnected from the story.
>>146684183
you might be wrong there, the voice actors had finished recording all their dialogue. they were brought back later to rerecord lines of dialogue with Rose. there's also an image floating around showing a relationship diagram that has all the party members except Rose on it. one of those party members joins after her in the game we got.
>>146683938
Rose was there from the beginning though, she was simply an NPC that was meant to secretly become a party member so logically, she was not promoted until later on. The promotion of the game vs the reality is at essence where the game started to fall apart. The execution was just bad on all fronts.
>>146684165
They haven't been 'fought' yet in order to have a reunion. It logically SHOULD happen next episode though, because they can't have Mikleo armatize without them coming to a understanding about their shared dream.
>>146684389
we don't know if they'll fight or not. Sorey has no idea why Mikleo left so he doesn't know about his plan to become sublord, which is what the fight has always been about. or he might just be so happy to see Mikleo again there won't be a proper fight... who knows.i want that damn tickle fight.
>>146684437
This one and it was info that was released a few months before the game's release.
>long haired mikleo art is rare as fuck
reee etc.
>>146684165
>the bow can purify hellions without being armatized
Why
>>146684628
I've seen enough.
>>146684628
I don't know, I've seen quite a bit of it.
>>146684490
No, she wasn't Rose wasn't releaved until 4 months before the game's release by that point in time if she was there from the beginning then she would have been revealed with Zaveid. But she wasn't.>>146684600
On top of that you have this fact>>146684437
as well.
Promotion wasn't the problem the problem was that she wasn't meant to be there at all, it's more obvious when you listen to the staff interviews.
>>146684628
is it? epilogue Mikleo is best Mikleo so i save everything with him in it...
>>146684631
i have no idea, it bugs me too. he shouldn't have been able to do that without a sublord pact. unless he killed them instead of purified them?
>>146684631
>>146684843
In the game they mentioned many times that Mikleo is going to be become very powerful but he's handicapping himself by using a staff. That may be a part of that logic. Though I suppose it may just be to make the epilogue make more sense.
>>146684843
Mikleo just killed them instead of purifying them.
>>146684954
>not a single seraphim in Elysia bothered to warn Mikleo not to use a staff
bullshit desu.
>>146684954
Mikleo was supposed to be worthless at fighting hellions without the sublord pact though, which is why he wanted to be a sublord so he could stop being a hindrance since he was constantly told to stay in the kitchen.
>>146685053
The seraphim were also secretly against them leaving the village. They'd rather the two of them stayed home. Maybe they subconsciously tried to sabotage them to keep them weak so that they'd remain in the village.
>>146685113
Mikleo and Sorey aren't supposed to be weak so much as they're just inexperienced. Mikleo especially, there's actually a bunch of skits with the other seraphim where they point this out.
Sorey would probably want to keep Mikleo in the kitchen even if he was able to kill hellions. Seriously Mikleo is the only area where Sorey is selfish.
Why is this a Zestiria thread all of a sudden? Make your own thread, dammit.
>>146685113
>he was constantly told to stay in the kitchen.
>imagine how BTFO Mikleo will be if Sorey tells him this after he traveled for days alone to get this bow
Delicious. I hope the anime doesn't fuck up and drag it out more.
>>146685356
It's not that he's weak, just that no one could defeat hellions without a pact, making them worthless for that. Alisha couldn't either.He really was pretty weak in battle though, as were all the seraphim. They were like shittier versions of other Tales mages. I guess they weren't meant to be played as though, just combined with.
>>146685356
if you think about it Mikleo was practically a baby compared to everyone else in the party. only Sorey is for sure younger than him, and he's human and the shepherd.
>>146682362
>You will never feel Haru's pits against your body
Why even live?
>>146685572
Sorey is younger than Mikleo? I thought they were pretty much the same age. I don't remember anything definite about which one was born before the other.
>>146685356
>The seraphim were also secretly against them leaving the village.
Never got that impression. Gramps and the seraphim knew Sorey would eventually leave someday. They likely knew Mikleo would follow him too if he did. In fact, I think they were encouraging of Sorey living a human life, getting married to a human, etc.
>>146685569
Berseria reveals that it's quite possible for a seraphim to naturally have the power to defeat hellions without a pact. This may be a continuation of that fact.
>>146685664
nah, there is something definite...there's a flashback late in the game that shows them as babies. Mikleo's already born in the flashback. but Sorey is born pretty much during it. if i remember correctly, Zenrus actual magicks him out of his mother's body.
>>146685885
It's still strange though because Mikleo didn't have that power in the game nor the manga, and wanted to be a sublord in order to gain that power and be useful.
>>146685664
Sorey is one year younger than Mikeo.
>>146685884
They outright admit that they never wanted either of them to leave if you talk to them after you go visit them to return Gramp's pipe. Some will even wish for Sorey to stop being the shepherd and come home.
It seems as though they really didn't want Sorey to leave at all.
>>146685938
He was already born he was premature birth and needed Zenrus's help to live.
>>146685993
Well how else do you think that he was able to get past all those hellions while following Sorey?
>>146686089
Sorey, Lailah, and Alisha fought with Sorey telling Mikleo to stay back.
>>146686032
>Sorey is one year younger than Mikeo.
Human Mikleo. Mikleo was reborn the day Sorey was born prematurely. You can argue they share the same birthday.
And alright. I never bothered to talk very much with the NPCs.
>>146686171
Not in the Galahad ruins, they were separated there remember?
>>146685356
>Mikleo is the only area where Sorey is selfish.
>>146686171
>Sorey telling Mikleo to stay back.
we were one injured Mikleo away from Sorey losing his shit and going full taint AU.
>>146686313
Mikleo is listed as 18, Sorey as 17.
>>146686424
What? Where? I thought none of the characters had canon ages.
>>146686424
Their ages are actually listed as "unknown" in the tales official guidebook.
>>146686543
In Zestiria they don't.
>>146685375
Nobody is stopping you to post your own homos, fuccboi.
>>146686376
Yeah, but there's nothing that showed him be able to defeat hellions. He could've just outrun them. In the anime he can't defeat them either and has to run until he gets the bow, whereas in the game/manga the bow doesn't help until armatized.
>>146686587
But I'm a little girl.
>>146686765
We all are.
>>146686765
sure you are.
>>146686942
>Sorey collapses two seconds later because Mikleo became a huge fatass over the centuries
>>146686765
There are no females on /a/. You are a real faggot.
>>146686420
Sorry to ruin your hopes and dreams anon but there already was an injured Mikleo and nothing happened
>>146686942
Long hair is patrician. It suits him better.
I generally default to these as my homo OTP, since I don't know if my actual homo OTP counts.
>>146687345
>nothing happened
Not that anon, but he literally became the Shepherd because of it.
>>146687345
damn, i forgot about that. hopes crushed.
>>14668657
>>146686543
Zestiria guidebook anon.
>>146687477
I started the same way.
>>146687541
My wife Mikleo is so cute.
>>146687652
Lately I've been thinking 貞 is my favorite, but some Q is good too.
>>146686420
Well it's what makes Sorey different is that his dream of human seraphim unification is purely for selfish reasons. But Sorey's selfishness regarding Mikleo isn't negative nor is it a positive thing.
Obviously
>>146687738
Sorey pls
>>146687541
Well Sorey became a Shepherd and has his dream purely because of Mikleo.
>>146687898
>>146687477
>>146687652
>>146687768
My brethren.
>>146687768
The perks of being a Kawoshin fan is having three different versions to ship. I think my fav portrayal was Q's.
>>146688071
They have alot of catching up to do at the end.
>>146681415
>being this wrong
>>146687898
>mfw Sorey spends hundreds of years talking about Mikleo to Apple dragon.
>>146687652
I remember people arguing they weren't gay years ago.
I have a strong desire to see Sorey cucked by Zaved.
>>146688651
Wait theshota is maotelus?
>>146689004
Yes.
>Sorey cucked by Zaveid
Sorey's more likely to be cucked by brunette, green eyed Shepherds that Mikleo met along the centuries long wait.
>>146689004
I should've spoilered butyes, Maotelus is indeed the shota. Bonus points he and Sorey spend that time talking about how all the other shepherds besides Sorey and Eleanor are shit and having bro conversations about Sorey's waifu Mikleo.
>>146688931
two guys could fuck in an anime and there would be people INSISTING no homo until the end of the world. and probably after the end of the world, for that matter.
>>146689004
but Zaveid ships it.
>>146689128
>Sorey's more likely to be cucked by brunette, green eyed Shepherds that Mikleo met along the centuries long wait.
Considering howMikleo becomes aware of how all the other shepherds are all useless sacks of shit, that's unlikely.
>>146689379
Well in order to further Sorey's dream, I'm sure Mikleo has to armatize with quite a few men. I doubt he just spent all his time traveling and writing a novel.
>>146687477
What would make your homo OTP not count?
>>146688931
People can be delusional, that should have been obvious with them continuing to insist that it wasn't gay even after the creator outright called it homo.
>>146689463
if armatization with Mikleo counts as cucking Sorey then Rose already did that anyway.
>>146689463
>Well in order to further Sorey's dream, I'm sure Mikleo has to armatize with quite a few men. I doubt he just spent all his time traveling and writing a novel.
See >>146689379 the other shepherds never helped to further his and Sorey's dream and Mikleo ends up leaving them and doing it alone before Sorey rejoins him, with the blessing of apple dragon.
>>146689472
One of them is--and this is is an actual spoiler--medically intersex.
>>146689546
The armatizing I meant includes being naked in the bed.
>>146689619
>Mikleo ends up leaving them and doing it alone before Sorey rejoins him
Where was this shown or sad? Definitely not the game. What Mikleo did over the timeskip wasn't specified beyond what we saw (traveling ruins in game, writing a novel about him and Sorey in manga).
>>146689463
knowing Mikleo he probably spent a good chunk of his free time obsessively warding Sorey's resting place and making sure nobody could disturb him, like he did in the Alisha DLC.
>>146689784
>Where was this shown or sad? Definitely not the game. What Mikleo did over the timeskip wasn't specified beyond what we saw (traveling ruins in game, writing a novel about him and Sorey in manga).
The blurb that Mikleo beside epilgoue Mikleo makes it clear that they never helped, since he says that they're still trying to fix relations with humans and seraphim and that they're doing it alone.
>>146688651
Does apple dragon also spend hundreds of years telling him about his super cool onee-chan/obaa-chan?
>>146690139
>No extra material about Mikleo's post main game journey
Bamco would've made it 12 hours of him thinking about Sorey but it would've been interesting to see him alone, interacting with humans and getting more depth to his empty shell of a character.
>>146654207
>ipad and book
Nice touch.
I miss them.
>>146690429
The manga does more for both Sorey and Mikleo's characters, the main problem with Zestiria's game is that the story is supposed to be about Sorey and Mikleo and their relationship, but the narrative was lost in the mess when the game was rewritten.
Believe me Sorey is character is just as much about Mikleo as Mikleo is about Sorey.
>>146691477
it really bums me out that only the first four manga chapters are translated and the group doing it vanished off the face of the earth.
>>146690412
Pretty much.
>>146681415
I still swear, I will literally never be over this. ;_;
>>146691477
>The manga does more for both Sorey and Mikleo's characters
Yup, I saw that Mikleo even takes on his mother's will alot strongly and cries over her. I really appreciate changes like that, and I hope the anime follows suit there. I doubt they'll fix Mikleo being a satelite though, they've kind of already made that worst because he just pops to say 'Sorey needs me!' every episode.
>>146692981
I think that what people don't like to acknowledge is is this
>Sorey's character is just as much about Mikleo as Mikleo's is about Sorey.
If the shoe was on the other foot and Mikleo was the shepherd and Sorey the seraph then Sorey would be behaving the same manner that Mikleo is right now. Just because a character decides to do something for another or have them as a primary motivation doesn't make them worthless as a character. Characters don't always need to be completely independent of one another.
>>146681415
Okay, just how in the FUCK did Manato manage to resist leaning down and just swallowing a faceful of those irresistible Haru pits!?
>>146690915
Kurapika is a girl.
>>146694424
You're a girl.
>>146693794
>Characters don't always need to be completely independent of one another.
That's true, but they also don't need to have their entire characters hinged on or interconnected to another's either.
If Mikleo was female, he'd be the equivalent of a shonen love interest whose screentime is dedicated to yelling out Sorey's name until the epilogue where she is seen with seven children. I'm sure many wouldn't hesitate to criticize his character.
Obviously, it is not a bad thing that Mikleo's character revolves around Sorey because it's not like it's one-sided, unhealthy or detrimental to his character. It's just that there isn't much else to balance it. Aside from being Sorey's one and only, what is Mikleo? A buttmonkey to Edna's bullying? The catalyst of the calamity? I shouldn't have to explain why that's not impressive at all.
>>146694986
So Mikleo's character is basically just being a waifu kind of like Rem in re-zero
>>146694986
The same thing is true for Sorey though, he took up the title of Shepherd to achieve his dream what is his dream? To bring together humans and seraphs why? Because of Mikleo. Without Mikleo, Sorey is just a kid that was duped into the role of being the shepherd, he's just a role. Even you're way of thinking of the characters ignores that fact, Mikleo is Sorey's one and only, the youngest seraphim of the group, the catalyst of calamity, the sub lord, etc. Your criticism is one that can also be levied against the many characters not just Mikleo, in fact many characters in Zestiria are even worse in this regard.
If Mikleo is the female character that is all about her love interest then Sorey is the male character whose entire motivation revolves around his female love interest, and that's the point of their characters.
>>146683187
yes
>>146696374
>Your criticism is one that can also be levied against the many characters not just Mikleo, in fact many characters in Zestiria are even worse in this regard.
Well, I never stated that and if anything I'd agree. Just focusing on Mikleo in particular here.
Additionally, it's Sorey's upbringing in general that fuels his dream. Mikleo is a huge part of it no less, but so are the rest of his family in Elysia. Either way, Sorey gets more agency to his character by being the Shepherd because his job allows him to form connections with multiple people in aiding his dream (like Alisha, Sergei, Rose, the seraphs). His dream is just as much about connecting humans to seraphs as it is in reverse.
Sorey also gets a semblance of an arc where he must realize death can become a salvation. These things are entirely independent of Mikleo, whereas there isn't much Mikleo has independent of Sorey.
>>146698236
>Additionally, it's Sorey's upbringing in general that fuels his dream
Not really, Sorey's upbringing influenced him into becoming a shepherd, but none of the villagers think that it's possible for humans and seraphs to get along. They just view Sorey as a special case. However they were in some capacity raising Sorey to rejoin humans and forget about them. While they do help to fuel Sorey's idea that humans and seraphs can get along they don't provide any motivation for Sorey to seek out a way for it to happen, just the opposite. Again this is more apparent if you speak to them, the only character that fueled Sorey's dream was Mikleo and Sorey's desire to stay with him. Alisha, Sergei, Rose and the serpahs also don't help Sorey with his dream either, as none of them share it and in the case of Alisha, Sergei, Rose and the serpahs had very different goals and wishes from Sorey. In fact I believe that Alisha and Sergei outright say that their dream is peace on the conintnet. Rose has no goals or wishes, and the seraphs also all have different goals from Sorey, in fact none of them believe that Sorey's dream is achievable. The entire point to Sorey's dream is that it's selfish, if you take away his reason for the dream (the selfishness) then he has no reason to have that goal.
I don't think that you understand what "agency" means. The word is referring to a character who makes their own decisions without any being forced into it by an outside force, you may not like the fact that Mikleo's decisions revolve around Sorey, but the truth is, that Mikleo is showing agency by choosing to make decisions based on Sorey's needs. The fact that he's making those decisions while thinking of Sorey doesn't diminish the fact that he is the one making those decisions. On that same point without Sorey's dream then he's just a character who becomes the shepherd because he was raised to do it.
You mean the character arc, where they tell Sorey that his desires don't matter?
>>146698236
Sorey's character arc had Sorey lose agency not gain any.
>>146619114
Every time I See these two I am always hearing "Glorious Domination (Bobby Roode Theme)"
>>146699402
Alright anon, I get your point. But even if you want to argue Sorey is fundamentally as one-dimensional as Mikleo is, I'm mostly just expressing an issue with Mikleo's character portrayal specifically because it orbits too much around Sorey. This even transcends to skits where the cast members poke fun at Mikleo because they know how defensive he gets over Sorey. Compare this to Sorey's portrayal in skits, which mostly just show his innocence or lack of social norms with the rest of the cast. While I think their feelings are equal, the way they are portrayed are not the same.
You never see the cast poke fun at Sorey's devotion to Mikleo for instance, because Sorey's devotion to Mikleo is not a default character trait, it is apart of his character. Sorey can go episodes without thinking about Mikleo, but Mikleo cannot go episodes without thinking about Sorey for that it is the essence of his portrayal to do just that.
>>146694424
Only in your dreams.
>>146702880
Did you ever stop to think that the reason why they aren't portrayed as the same is because Sorey's status makes it that way? Mikleo is devoted to Sorey and attention is brought to it because of the extraordinary circumstances that Sorey is in. Because, let's face the average human or even seraph wouldn't be able to handle having to support Sorey through such hardship, because most people wouldn't be able to sit back and allow their loved ones to end up in situations that was hazardous to their wellbeing and even less would continue to support them through it. Despite the fact that Mikleo makes what he's doing look easy the truth is that it's really not. Those skits of the game calling out Mikleo's devotion to Sorey as a point of interest because it is.
Sorey is only shown not thinking of Mikleo all the time because he isn't given the time to think or worry about him. Compare last episode to this latest one, from the moment they separate we see that Sorey is thinking of Mikleo a lot, the only times he isn't is when he's given something else to worry about, like with the previous episode. . Mikleo on the other hand is given time to worry about Sorey, so that's exactly what he does. Your comparison is ignoring that fact, you're not factoring the circumstances of the characters themselves in with your observation.
>>146628445
>mfw I still have this poster from NewtypeUSA
>>146694986
>>146696374
>>146698236
>>146699402
>>146702880
>>146703800
You reminds me of some landwhales that wrote longass posts about OnS in the homo thread a while ago. Please don't be like them and take this discussion somewhere else.
>>146682727
I'm on ep.24 and I adore these two. Arslan getting mad over that arena fight made my heart melt.
Though reverse trap Edward worries me.
>>146704507
That's still getting talked about?
>>146704507
Then why don't you do that? Seriously, no one's stopping you.
>>146668268
>sticking his head between his thighs
Nothin' gay about that.
>>146704507
What do you expect from fujo autists? They could write a fucking thesis about two Chinese cartoon characters for hours on end.
>>146671119
this, but i still like traps tho. i dont buy into dumb 4ch memes that you cant like traps if you like barazoku or whatever.
>>146658334
as a bl lover, the kissing scenes drove me to heck, but as a person who likes good anime, i wish i could erase no 6 from my memory.
>>146705290
I wonder though, why are you even on a discussion board for Chinese cartoons if you don't actually want to discuss anything?
Do you have aswordOTP?
>>146705857
>No.6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1GadTfGFvU
>>146705290
>he doesn't know about the Dananronpa disertation
>>146688931
They have hetgoggles permanently melted on their faces.
Elliot Nightray x Leo Baskerville from Pandora Hearts. My Ultimate OTP.
>>146706818
Not really, I just know a few characters and almost nothing about their relationships. Will watch the upcoming animu though. Kancolle was alright so this can't be all that bad now can it.
>>146710877
Bretty good taste, m8.
>>146689736
Yoite counts. He angsts about it but pretty much calls himself boku when he finally settles as himself.
>>146704507
>there are still people angry about anime discussion on an anime board
I forgot we're only allowed to speak in memes here. This is your criticism tonight.
>>146622508
Love those two.
>inb4 much degeneracy
You know that those are fictional characters, right?
>>146641272
Nice taste anon
>>146643074
I agree
>>146674912
>in the name of revenge
The guy gave up on his revenge for homo buttsex right? I honestly can't see him carrying it out.
Still waiting for art on Nendou x Saiki
>>146714792
Oh look, it's forgettable popular homo anime number 4.
>>146712884
It counts in my opinion, too, but I wasn't sure that it would count to people in homo threads at large because of the anatomical issue. I still consider them my ultimate homo OTP.
>>146710877
My man.
>>146714813I never knew I needed this until now.
>>146705266
In all my life I have never witnessed a more beautiful ship. They are the true OTP of OTPs.
>>146716345
Good taste. I thought they'd be another retarded fansevice homorivalry at first, but Nabari's storytelling got better as it went on.
>>146619114
>>146717317
The ending and everything with Inasa felt rushed to me, and I feel like Kamatani just lost steam, but in general I hold the story in very high regard because it's such a good love story. That is to say, it's a story about love, between various people. I thought it was beautiful. It was amazing watching Kamatani develop as an artist, too.
Have you read Shimanami Tasogare?
>>146715226
He still carrying his revenge, just clearly using buttsex to further it.
>>146619114
>>146717195
Togashi needs to make them canon and cement them as legend. He's the only mangaka mad enough to write homo protags in Jump.
>>146717578
I don't know man. I'm still not clear on why the anime stopped giving us access to Avilio's inner thoughts and why he just stopped talking about his plans to Corteo. Is it to make us think he's giving up on his revenge or to make us think he's not giving up on his revenge? Is it just to confuse us and make us wonder? I have no clue.
>>146643396
Somewhere in this decade, I hope.
>>146706818
I sure do.
>>146627269
>>146687882
Good taste
>>146721055
10/10
>>146706818
Me x that hung shota sword
>>146721055
What are the cuck wives saying
>>146722269
Or that armpit foccsboi