Dangan Ronpa 3

"Hina is the mastermind" is almost as bad as Kirijunko

kys

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>>146528830
What the fuck did you just fucking say about donuts, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class at Dunkin, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret baking sessions in France, and I have over 300 confirmed new donut recipes. I am trained in gastronomy and I’m the top baker in the entire US donut division. You are nothing to me but just another creme puff. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit about donuts over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of donut shops across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the glaze, maggot. The glazing that covers the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can bake you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with a conventional oven. Not only am I extensively trained in deep frying, but I have access to the entire baking arsenal of the United States Confectionery Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

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You know nothing.

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Does Junko even like Mukuro?

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Not about me.

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>>146528894
Hahaha, who the fuck cares?

Poetic irony that she died the same way the girl she murdered did - for refusing to take part in the killing game

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Or my plan.

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This week for sure.
Also threads are kinda slow.

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http://www.strawpoll.me/11102595/
http://www.strawpoll.me/10884696/

>>146528937
Aww i love girls loving girls <3

>>146528830
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>>146528927
Raiden, stop being stuck in the wrong series. Go kill some Metal Gears.

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>>146528951
>Togami
>Only 10% of votes

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>>146528970
But here we have a weapon to surpass metal gear

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>>146528970
Thus far Muna-faggot has only managed to kill a geriatric

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>>146528995
The geriatric in question was a kung fu master with a nailgun (and also a master of bantz)

Threadly reminder that Kirigiri is the attacker.

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>>146528830
I want to marry Sonia!

There's absolutely no way Munakata is meant to be taken seriously, right?

I mean from episode 2 he's just been "Ridiculous idiot with a katana"

Someone explain this to me, is the attacker one person or everytime they sleep one random person is chosen as an attacker?

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When will we see them interact?

>>146529091
It's Chisa.

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>>146528894

DAILY REMINDER
>They're a [character type] who is [personality] and [interesting feature]
Normal character
eg:
She's a detective who is calm and collected and has father issues
He's a regular high school boy who has identity issues and wishes he had a unique talent
He's a misunderstood kind soul who only wants the best for those he cares about and will go to extreme measures to get that positive outcome


>They're a [character type]... but [attribute not common to character type]!
Meme character
eg:
She's obsessed with video games... but she's a girl!
He's an experienced chef... but he has an unsatisfiable libido!
She's a successful author... but she has a split personality who's a serial killer!

>>146529096
Boat scene you fucking secondary fujo

>>146529063
Munakata is Naegi if he did everything wrong after Sayaka died.

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>>146529128
>Nagitofag shit-talking Chiaki
>again
What, your KomaHina doujins not enough?

>>146529128
>Daily reminder
>It's not actually daily.

>>146529139
And was an insane person with a katana

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>>146529149

Remind me how pigshit responds when you ask her to take her clothes off?

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>>146529063
Fuck off dude you know nothing. Not about him. Or his plan.

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>>146529128
You realize that the characters are written as one dimensional archetypes so that they can break out of them right?

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>>146529168
Lol take a fucking shower and scrub your unshaved vagina you gross fujo, we can smell you from here

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I like Nagito but I fucking hate Nagitofags,they're so damn annoying.

>>146529179

Teruteru never broke out of his horndog stereotype
syo is yet to even though she's been given more than enough chances
chiaki is as one dimensional as ever in DR3

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What does it mean?

>>146529288
Watch UDG

>>146529231

t. "I fell for the waifubait gamer girl because she's perfect and just like me"

Need a version of "nicest guy you'll ever meet/twisted fucking psychopath" with Munakata.

>>146529291
It's a metaphor on how he isn't the same man he used to be.

>>146529291
It means it's time for Munakata to let 'er rip

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>>146529307
>just like me
Thanks for proving my point,you Nagitofags are fucking idiots.

>>146529291
Munakata = Bandai

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>>146529288
Teruteru is one-note hence why he dies immediately and nobody likes him

Syo is a gag character and an extension of Fukawa

>chiaki is as one dimensional as ever in DR3

I'll give you this one because its obvious she only got made a real girl because of how popular she is. The AI at least had the excuse of being a computer program with the mental age of a child.

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>>146529307
Nagito may be a cunt, but at least he isn't boring.

Mitarai is brainwashed and doesn't even know he's the attacker

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>>146528830
never trust big donuts

>>146528970
at least he is attacking robots now

>>146529128
Congrats on describing the design process for every single character in fictional media since forever, you incredibly insufferable faggot

>>146529346
>Chiaker
>Calling someone an idiot

>>146529394
Funny, because you're both.

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>>146529486
Let's be honest, rarely if ever do you see a Chiaki fan writing long greentexts on how Nagito is a "meme character."

It is always Nagitofriends who try to start shit. Like, really, always.

>>146529306

The only development UDG made for fukuwa/syo is that she can now use a taser to voluntarily switch between personalities, which just makes her even more of a gimmicky meme character

>>146529394

Nagito is not a cunt
In literally everything he's done, he's ALWAYS been morally right

>>146529589
>Forgetting the intense relationship of Toko and Komaru
Seriously?

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>>146529486
>he doesn't like Nagito therefore he's a Chiakifag
What sort of logic is that?

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>mfw jabberwock island is saved for the finale

>>146529434

>every character ever relies on a subversion gimmick
nice try chiakifag

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>>146529589
Syo is just an extension of Fukawa, anon.

And also shes just one big reference to Clock Tower.

>>146529611
Read Chapter 0. He's an insane hypocrite. All it takes is a question for Izuru to break him

>>146529631
>Hating best boy
Only a chiakifag is that dumb.

>>146529677
But he said that he likes Nagito.

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@chiakifags

Be honest
Would you still like chiaki if she didn't play video games and wasn't constantly sleepy?

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>>146529515
>rarely if ever do you see a Chiaki fan writing long greentexts on how Nagito is a "meme character."
They can't because everybody knows that wouldn't be true.

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Senshi Punch

Senshi Kick

>>146529727
Gentle

>>146529096
The actor for Komaeda truly is perfect. He fits perfectly.

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>>146529720
>videogames
Sure

>sleepy
A bit less, that's still a cute personality trait
Pic related

>>146529720
She's a good person and I relate too much to her overall personality

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CAN ANYONE STOP MUNAKATA'S MANLET HUNT? The dude has evolved from persona to big boss to raiden all for the sake of destroying one hope manlet. Is this even his final form? Punished Munakata is a man deprived of his waifu, he has nothing left but the satisfaction of killing Naegi. How far will he go in order to kill hope manlet and his waifu? What's the next step of his master plan?

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>>146529720
But Nagito is a meme character. He just says HOPE and dicks people over, that's the extent of his character.

>>146529677
But I never said I hated him, I posted that pic to show that he's hated among his classmates.There's a good reason to why people don't like him and it doesn't automatically mean that they have Chiaki as their favourite character. It doesn't work like that.

>>146529656
An insane hypocrite who dicked the despair outta Monaca and caused Izuru to awaken and AI Junko to get shrekt? Your point?

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>>146529515

>one line of greentext is "long" for chiakifags
pathetic

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>>146529096
Izuru wig must be a pain to wear.

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>>146529359
Vastly underrated posts right here folks

>>146529778

If nagito is a meme character, you should be able to write an accurate description of him using the
>He's a [character type]... but [attribute not common to character type]!
format, should you not?

I'll wait. I'll be marking it for accuracy, so put some effort into it

>>146529718
>>146529779
I'm explaining my reasoning.

>If he hates Nagito
>He's a Chiakifag

>>146529780
>who dicked the despair outta Monaca

See, this is what I mean by Nagito being a "meme character."

Him dicking Monoca never happened, it's a meme. Literally a meme, sprouted by his fans, who are memeing ten year olds.

In reality Monoca gave up on despair because Nagito was such a loser she didn't want to become a parody of a human being like him.

But yeah sure Nagitofag, he "dicked the despair out of her."

Yeah, that's totakkt what happened.

>>146529817
I like Nagito but how is he not a meme character?
>inb4 hur dur Chiakifag

>>146529768
This anime has gone off in so many different places, its not even funny. Munakata has been carving his way through fucking everything for no adequate reason for like 50 episodes.

>>146529817
He's idealistic and hopeful, but also insane and murderous!

Didn't have to wait very long, did you Nagitofag:^)

Wanna start watching this, which side should I start on?

>>146529817
He's a good, kind and hopeful person...but has a very twisted concept of hope

Not that anon anyway, and I like Nagito, but you can really fit everything in that format

>>146529817
He's a hopeful young man but also an insane dick

>>146529877
Future 1, Despair 1, Future 2, etc.

>>146529877
Future comes first

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I want to squeeze her Rurugirls

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>Weedman still outside
Poor Weedman, he just wants to see his friends

>Nagitofags shit up YET ANOTHER thread
Go back to /vg/ you fucking shitposters

>>146529291
>Tengan removed him for the database because he's radical. The first episode proved Tengan used to be as radical as Munakata towards the remnant of despair.
>Monaca's database is outdated or she started collecting information on FF members the moment she took Miaya's plac..
>He's not the same because of Seiko's drugs.
>It's someone else.

>>146529923
Isn't it better to call them "sweets" for obvious reasons?

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>>146529641
The more Syo, the better

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>>146529923
I want to squeeze her neck as she chokes on her tiny hamburgers, and I'll also make fun of her dumb hat while doing it

>>146529942

>waah why is someone with a different opinion posting in my thread

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>>146529179
This is why Junko will end up good.

<3

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>>146529923
You know during the entire last half of this week's Mirai-hen, although I'd look at Kirigiri any chance I got, I couldn't keep my eyes off Ruruka's melons during all of her scenes. Felt like they were changing sizes so often that I couldn't help but stare.

And did anyone make any more Nekogiri edits?

>>146529942
It's not the Nagitofags as much as the komahinafags. I like hopeman, but it's annoying when the fujos get all butthurt that their pairing is head cannon

>>146529864
you didn't follow the format. This description is not accurate.

>>146529882
you didn't follow the format. This description is not accurate.

>>146529886
Komaeda isn't a dick. This description is not accurate.

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>>146529970

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>>146529720
Yes, she's still a nice person overall despite being unsociable and clueless at times. Not to mention that she accepts you for who you are and is loyal as fuck.

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>>146530048
>head cannon

>>146529720
post more space neet

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yQsPE7pzNo

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>>146530095

>>146530050
Well Komaeda has no vagina so i say he's a dick.

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>>146530095

>>146530048

Why did hajime check on komaeda when he was sick, when no other character did?

>Hiroko lewds exist
Monaca lewds when?

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>>146530095

>>146529128
They're a gamer who is very kind if a bit awkward, and is an AI.
He's an experienced chef who is very flirty and horny, and is trying to support his sick mother.
She's a successful author who is rude and has low self esteem, and has a murderous second personally.

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>>146530097

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>>146530095
okay

>>146530137
So checking on someone while sick makes you gay for them?

>>146530137
By that logic, Mikan loves Komaeda because she took care of him and stood by him when he was sick. Hajime has a pretty clear love interest in DR2 and DR3 has only reinforced it more.

I feel like Asahina is being used as a red herring by the writers of the anime to fool the viewers.

Asahina, Naegi and Kiri being the killer or traitor makes no sense and would be a terrible plot twist.

Munkata is not the killer/mastermind even though he seems to have snapped.

Candy girl is a terrible person but is she really behind all this?

Boxer and Animator are sketchy and the most likely suspects.

It would also be silly to assume that Junko is not behind this somehow or that one of the characters we think died faked their own death.

When did Tengan learn the identity of the traitor?

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I like all of the DR1/SDR2 characters.
Stop triggering each other, blaming X-fags and ignore shitposting, it's as easy as that.

>>146530301

Mikan was asked to care for the sick people and had an obligation to since she was a nurse
Hajime was not asked to check on komaeda, and had no obligation to. He went there voluntarily because he cared about him

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>>146529923
I want to taste those sweets

>>146530192
Does she have the largest boobs in relation to her body size?

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>>146530301
This.

>>146522409
Pragmatism.

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>>146529727
A new variant of dancing I've never heard about? Oh well.

Meanwhile, I want to bully Saionji so much. I want to scold her to tears and throw her into pool. I want to take her gummies and eat them in front of her. Then I'll force-feed her with lemon-flavored gummies, palm after palm. I want to call her a stinky and take her panties so she has to going commando for the rest of the trip. I want to mock her inability to put her kimono by herself, so I'll strip her every once in a while, yelling what one day, she'll be glad to be able to dress up herself. Also, I'll take her kitty hairpins, making her long blonde hair cover her private parts. And when I'll give kimono back to her, I'll make sure to put Mr. Ants in every single pleat and Mr. Crab in her panties.

And when finally she snaps and try to bully me by any means possible, I'll spank her in front of everyone until she'll like it. And when she'll come to me, begging for another spanking, I'll mock her again, then spank her as if my life depends on it, laughing on her moans full of pleasure. Mere seconds before her climax, I'll throw her into pool once again, leaving her in her aroused state.

>>146530508
>W-wait a sec!
>Listen to me! Hey!
>Here are my boobs
>Ruruka's marshmallow boobies!
>Hey!
>Look over here!
>Rather than looking at the door, look here!
>You can suck on them! Heey!
My sides.

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>>146530719

komaeda just wanted to be bullied by hajime

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>>146530719
I never allowed you to open the piehole of yours, Komaeda!

Here, I'll free you from the descendance, no need to thank me, the world is the one who'll do it for you.

>>146528995
Don't forget, he was a geriatric skewered on a steel beam after a fall and he STILL lost an eye doing it.

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>>146530514
That's Izuru's, Hajime clearly likes Chiaki.
Let's not start a shipping wars

>>146530473
And Hajime was asked to guard Nagito and Ibukifags and make sure they were safe. Your point?

>>146530050
Then just make it "He's a hopeful young man but also batshit insane"

>>146528970
Still a fleshy lower jaw, doesn't count as full Raiden.

>>146529768
Yes, clearly. Otherwise hopelet would be dead already.

>>146530844

"hopeful young man" is not a character archetype
Komaeda is not batshit insane, there is method and logic in everything he does and he's always working for the moral good

>>146530186
>They're a gamer who is very kind if a bit awkward, and is an AI.
And real Chiaki is a "spin-off" of this:
>They're a gamer who is very kind if a bit awkward, and is the real version of a previously 'unreal' character.

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>>146530845
If dubs then Munakata's next form will have a robot arm

>>146530888
well

Boozeman should have won the Kyokobowl

>>146529720
Sure.

Don't really need much for me to 'like' a character, to be honest. If she's not a crazy lunatic like Mikan or Junko I'd be fine.

>>146530908
But there is no Kyokobowl. She's a competitor in the Naegibowl

>>146530508
Source? iqdb and google give nothing.

>>146529768
>How far will he go in order to kill hope manlet and his waifu
Manlet's waifu is already dead though.

Really it's a battle between two people who had lost their waifus: one recently, one long time ago, both not getting over it

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>>146530908
>kyokobowl
implying theres enough people interested in that purple cunt

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>>146530888
Wow. Trips so a robot arm and leg or what can we expect?

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>>146530888
he will evolve and grow stronger and stronger

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>>146530945
He thinks she is dead, but she really isnt

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>>146530940
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=58740691

>>146530833
And at least this time the main guy of a numbered DR does not fall in love with a girl who wanted to use him in some fashion.

unless real chiaki is also hiding some secret plan

>>146530880
He's a yandere guy, but guess what? He's not in love with a person but an ideal!

>>146529720
Playing video games is the least important thing about her, I don't get half her references anyway.

And I like real Chiaki, so I guess I like Chiaki when she's not constantly sleepy.

>>146530973
If Sayaka turned out to be alive after all this, I'm just going to sell all my DR stuff.

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>>146530986
But Junko and Kirigiri >>> Nanami
What I get out of this is that using people is good.

>>146531000

why isn't real chiaki sleepy?
why was AI chiaki sleepy?

Reminder that Junko is hidden inside the Monokuma door.

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>>146530888
Why isn't he the Ultimate RPG protagonist? He just keeps growing stronger

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>>146530888
okay then

>>146531040
That's Chihiro's fetish.

At this point the traitor is either Ryotai, the 16th person, Boxer, if Junko hypnotized him or the killer really alters.

>>146531087
>chihiro
>attracted to females

>>146530880
Ill give you the first part, but lets not kid here. Ends dont always justify the means. He doesnt use logic, in fact its the exact opposite. He just relies on his luck for everything to turn out okay for him and his desires. I would say hes a "Genki but psychotic" the only reason things end up decent for him is that luck ass-pull shit he does >>146530992 puts it well too.

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>>146531017
Funny way to spell "Junko"

>>146531087
How did Chihiro know Chiaki?

>>146530888
>>146531073
How is Hopelet ever going to 'defeat' this Ultimate JRPG Protagonist?

>>146531119
Hes going to lose the fight then win in a cutscene.

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>>146531060
Like so.

>>146530880
Morally hes pretty fucked up.

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>>146530973
>>146531017

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>>146529720
Honestly I didn't care at all until this part

>>146530912
>Mikan
>Lunatic

>>146531102
Maybe not 'fetish', but just 'a trait he likes to have in his creations'.

Like that Yozakura Quartet guy who likes to have people balance things on their head

>>146531162
>Mom walks in

>>146530880
Yes it's hard to fit him into your formula but he is just supposed to be a twist on Naegi/Junko.

>>146530945
Watch as for maximum pottery one of the last things that happens is Naegi saving Kyoko. DR1 opened with a waifu dying, so DR3 should end with one living.

>>146531183
He's a person who shares Naegi's beliefs but shares Junko's attitudes towards said beliefs.

also shares fuckability

>>146531115
>Ends dont always justify the means. He doesnt use logic
He uses a logic consistent with his view of the world. World views are subjective. There is method to his """madness""", everything he does is with a logical reason as opposed to being random and meaningless

Just because luck is factored into his logic, it doesn't mean it's illogical. It can be considered "illogical" to us since supernatural luck doesn't exist in the real world, but within the DR narrative it's reasonable for komaeda to factor his supernatural luck into his logic

>>146531163
She's either always sad and depressed or despair
So yeah, not lunatic, her personality is a mess, but still stable

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>>146531183
>it's hard to fit him into your formula

So you're saying he isn't a meme character after all? His character is too complex to trivialise in such a succinct manner?

huh. really makes you think

Nagito ain't really that deep. He has a boner for hope and has a very low value for human life, his own and others.

Just a run of the mill zealot, honestly

>>146531145
I imagine Naegi is like the easiest boss in a JRPG. One would think he's like the first phase of a final boss, but no, he's just that weak.

>>146531247
Because you won't accept hope as an archetype. Would "Naegi" be an archetype? "Protagonist"?

>>146531151
>They finally break into the door
>Junko is there
>Manlet: "SHIT"
>Junko doesn't do anything
>They angrily confront her
>It turns out she's just bored
>Like Monaka, she flies off into space to become a NEET
>Monaka was even more like Junko than Junko was, as Junko is now following in Monaka's footsteps
>The series just ends with a scene of Junko playing games and eating snacks

I can actually see this happening.

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>>146531247
But Nagito isn't complex. He likes HOPE and uses whatever means he wants to achieve HOPE

He's basically just Male Junko. And Junko certainly ain't complex

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>>146528880
>implying we make donuts in france
Oh hell no, we don't eat shit.

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Now that I think about it, Chihiro and Chiaki could be relatives of some kind.
So they might not need to see each other in the anime,I feel like it's something Kodaka would do.

>>146531267
Said boss has 99 in luck though.

>>146530992
Its implied he loves Hinata in his free time events

>>146531296
>"This game isn't even my idea, I just want to see who's using my Monokuma."
>"Well, off to space, good luck, boys and girls!"

>>146531315
Not halal, huh?

>>146531303
>Male Junko
He's Hope Junko.

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>>146531315
Yea you eat snails instead of shit

>>146530888
Munakata can get edgier. We have the technology

>>146531326
>Chiaki is also crossdressing
Chihiro was being a SJW when he programs AI Chiaki

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Nagito is a machiavelli who is on the side of moral good.
He lacks any concept of self worth and is willing to sacrifice himself for the greater good.
His viewpoint of the world is nonconventional to the point where he doesn't relate well to others, and people rarely speak to him.
As a result, ultimately he's very lonely and clings onto the concept of "hope" since he has nothing else in his life

>>146529817
He's a what if character of the game's previous protagonist

>>146531212
The extent of this ""logic"" being "im lucky so everything will be okay"
If he kills someone it will be okay
If he destroys all hope, it will be okay
His luck is what makes the meme since no matter how evil he acts, no matter how many lives he ruins LUCK TM will magically save the day and bring hope in some roundabout way.

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>>146531315
Guess what, Precious Precious Flower Saionji, those lemon gummies ain't gonna eat themselves!

>>146531412

Komaeda has NEVER acted evil.

>>146531388
In DR2 the MC got the powerup, but in DR3 it's the MC's opponent that gets the constant power-ups while the MC (of one part, at least) just stays his weak self.

God, I can't wait for the Hopelet to shine. I am salivating for more bullshit despair-breaking speeches.

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>>146531447

>>146531212
Nagito is not really coherent with his own world of view, but that's not why he's illogical, it's his whole view that is hardly based on facts, but mostly his own feels

Nor is luck, it's an actual thing in DR so it's logic for him to make plans based on that, even if it's obviously overpowered as fuck

Nagito is certainly fun, but I don't think he's particularly complex. He's just Junko if she was obsessed with Hope

His fangirls wank him off too much. Their arguments boil down to SEE HE DID EVIL THING BUT FOR GOOD REASON, which is, like... the rationale of 99% of people out there

Like, do you actually think anyone does "evil" for the sake of it? Spend a day in court, and you'll get a laundry list of "good" motivations

>>146531476
He hasn't technically

>>146531476

Give me ONE example of something """evil""" he did, where the intention wasn't to produce an objective net positive outcome

>>146531326
If promotional materials (like bonuses you get from BD/DVDs) are canon, both Chiakis have the mole on their right breast, so Chihiro must, in some way, be close enough to Chiaki to know about it.

Could be childhood friends, long-unseen family, or sex partners.

Chiaki pegs Chihiro, that way they both retain their most important virginities

>>146531401
>greater good
In the end, with his final sacrifice, yeah. But what about at the trials? Take 2-1 for example. How is it the greater good if he helps Teruteru escape and leaves everyone else to die?

Or what about taking care of Monaca, trying to turn her into Junko 2.0? That can only be seen as for the greater good through the eyes of someone as fucked as Nagito Komaeda.

>>146529179
>Characted Development
>in Danganronpa

I'm out

>>146531483

Nagito's motivations aren't selfish, unlike the """good""" motivations you're referring to

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I hope our girl gets more time to shine now. I also hope her husbando does something other than get himself captured again.

>>146531497
So its all good so long as hope wins? Maybe for him, but for everyone else, not so much

>>146531512
>what was Trial 6 in SDR2

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>>146531497
>Give me ONE example of something """evil""" he did, where the intention wasn't to produce an objective net positive outcome

Again, 99% of villains believe they're doing "good."

Even this fucking edgelord thought he was doing the "right" thing

>>146531363
Oil based recipes that aren't mediterranean like Pompe à huile or arabic pastries like baklavas or sand roses are absolutely fucking haram. Butter is where it's at.

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>>146531504
>sex partners
Delete this!
They're pure!

>>146531231
>always sad or depressed
I mean its for good reason but, I do want to see her being more cheerful and outspoken thankfully the anime delivering on that front.

>>146531504
Chiaki could have been scanned into the NWP or otherwise had her physical data saved in a manner similar to the avatars of the DR2 cast. It's unlikely that Chihiro actually modeled Chiaki, the program just constructed her appearance based off of the real thing.

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>>146531388
>Munakata can get edgier. We have the technology
but... how far can we go anon.. ? is their a maximum edge level to reach?

>>146531537
Kirigiri's power-up is her removing her coat, so clearly her 'final' power-up in the final trial is her removing her gloves completely, both hands

to hold dead Naegi's hands

>>146531497
>the end justifies the means
What the fuck, anon.
I could make peace by killing everyone and just letting my family and friends alive, that's easy and you make a peaceful world with a few people.
Hardly someone acts "evil" just because they can

>>146531561

Villains act for their own subjective good
Komaeda doesn't do things for himself. He does them for the good of humanity. Objective good.

Your argument is idiotic

>>146531497
If he succeeded in allowing Teruteru to escape the Killing School Trip, that would not have been an objective net positive outcome.

>>146531589

But komaeda hasn't done anything "evil" in the first place

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>>146531599
>Your argument is idiotic

Shut the fuck up Hopeman. Your guy is the same as a suicide bomber

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>>146531497
Jumpstaring the Killing Game, killing one innocent =>random<= guy, in the middle of the party isn't evil?

Don't expect any more 'you'

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>>146531382
And thank god for that.

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>>146530888
If dubs than Future foundation building turns into a giant despair robot and Munakata fights it.

>>146531599
What he believes is the good of humanity.
By that logic, Muslim terrorists are good, as they believe the world will only be better under their laws and with their beliefs.

>>146531599
Is Danganronpa the only work of fiction you've read/played/watched?

>>146531637

Suicide bombing the terrorist home base is an objective good for humanity

>>146531547
The worst part of the whole game

>Three of the surviving five characters had no personality whatsoever and, consequently, no development

I'll concede, though, that DR2 did more or less half of the cast right and Hinata and Fuyuhiko weren't bad; still, nothing more than better copies of Makoto and Byakuya.

>>146531650
Thank god it's not, because that would be idiotic.

It should be Munakata AND Jozu fighting it.

Chisa piloting the robot, of course.

>>146531658

Muslims act for their SUBJECTIVE GOOD
What komaeda does, under OBJECTIVE ANALYSIS, would be a net positive for humanity

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>Good intentions make you a good person
Jesus, Nagitofags. Thank god you'll always be second fiddle to best girl

>>146531666
>666
even your trips know better.
If you take a bunch of innocents with you its at best a gray.

>>146530888
>trips
I assume the next form has two robotic arms.

>>146531702
>>146531633
Please respond.

>>146531572
Dunno, that's really not her character, even if it always bring a smile to see someone like Mikan being happy for once

>>146531599
>killing people who did nothing bad(he couldn't know) just to bring hope to others is objectively good
What.
So if I kill you in the name of hope/religion meme, even if you really aren't an obstacle to it, you will just accept it?

>>146531702
>would be a net positive for humanity
But it isn't?
How is Nagito more objective than Muslims?

>>146531684

>fuyuhiko
>byakuya clone
Fuyuhiko was the mondo clone, anon

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>>146529426
>never trust big donuts
>Not trusting the ray of hope

>>146531658
But what did Komaeda do something that could be called purely evil tho ?
Except his actions as Ultimate Despair, he literally never did anything evil.

>>146531726
A robotic arm and a robotic leg.

And he'll have a robotic sword.

>>146531702
By nature he cannot evaluate the exact gain. he can perform a SUBJECTIVE ANALYSIS based on his luck, but has no idea how it will turn out otherwise. Just like muslims believe in their book and make a SUBJECTIVE ANALYSIS that things will turn out a net positive if they act upon it.

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Nagito is good

>>146529923
I want to savor those sweet buns.
Almost as much as I want to savor Asahina's Donuts.

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>>146531684
I'll agree to that.

>>146531738
>>146531633
Except it would have been, since a vast majority of the remnants of despair would have been killed

>>146531744
>>146531786
I'm not talking about komaeda's subjective analysis, I'm talking about an external objective analysis that can account for factors not even komaeda knows about.

>>146531790

>neutral
terrible choice

>chaotic neutral
Literally nothing byakuya does could be described as 'chaotic'

>>146531748
Member of a powerful family, says for the whole game that he wants to participate in the killing game and that he will outsmart all of them, in the end makes more or less friends with everyone else. Also, his (only) time on the spotlight was in the second case, with Togami trying to pin the blame on Fukawa and Peko killing Mahiru in Fuyuhiko's stead. I don't see any similarities with Mondo besides being an asshole to everyone else in the beginning.

>>146531770
im not calling him purely evil. To call his actions good is false. He is at best a gray character.

>>146531824
Is Hinata the only 'good' character with a special pupil? To show that he's the only "Non-special" character in a Special cast, I guess.

also sonia's smile is super cute, i don't know why

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>>146531315
No, but you get shit on which is worse.

I don't even buy Nagito's motives being pure. Remember him asking to be called "Ultimate Hope?"

>>146531844
He didn't know that at the time, so he couldn't have possibly been morally right.

>>146531879
Ryoko's catchphrase is literally it doesn't concern me
Byakuya crucified Chihiro and was literally playing along for the thrills

>>146531881

>biker gang leader
>mafia leader

While not a direct clone, nagito filled the role of byakuya in DR2. They're both the "give protagonist necessary information for cases while letting them solve it and having their own selfish interests" character

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>>146531879
>Literally nothing byakuya does could be described as 'chaotic'

>>146531844
Doing wrong things that manage to turn out right is still wrong. If he did the right thing it would still turn out right because of his luck.

>>146531844
>Except it would have been, since a vast majority of the remnants of despair would have been killed
Nagito did not know this.

>I'm not talking about komaeda's subjective analysis, I'm talking about an external objective analysis that can account for factors not even komaeda knows about.
How can you judge a person's character based on knowledge they don't know?

>>146531963
Still warm?

>>146531844
>I'm talking about an external objective analysis that can account for factors not even komaeda knows about.
And so this means that under Nagito's analysis, he's evil.
Things go well because of his own luck, but luck doesn't make you good or evil
>I accidentally killed someone for no reason and I was unlucky, I am evil
>I accidentally saved the world by doing evil shit and I was lucky, I am good

>>146531901
Also this, the discussion is retarded

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>No security cameras in the V3 trailer
What could it meaaaaaan?

>>146531760
Naegi's the ultimate hope not only because he can inspire true hope in others (a small number, sure) but also because he saw hope in everyone. Nagito can't be the ultimate hope because he saw no hope in some people.

For more "no shit, sherlock" analyses of DR themes, please like, rate and subscribe

>>146531969
Well and his plan to save Chiaki ended up killing Chiaki, so nice going Hopeman

In his heart Nagito is a cynic. A true HOPEfag would believe that Ultimate Despair could turn a new leaf, but Nagito tried to execute all of them.

>>146531957
Kodaka even said at some point that Nagito's role was supposed to be a more focused rival than Togami was, who gradually became more of a good guy as the game continued.

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>>146528830
>>146528856
>people shittalking OP for saying the most obvious turn of events
Do you think it was coincidence that she had ketchup on her dress and pretend to get killed?

>>146530926
>Kyouko
>Sort of Ashina
>...Komaru?
If the FTE events are canon to DR3, Asahina becomes a certainty.

>>146531901
That wasn't even the funny part, it was when he demanded they build statues in his honor.

>>146531901

That was him fantasising about a time where he actually helped bring hope to the world. At no point did he actually ask to be called the ultimate hope.

As discussed earlier, this fantasy stems from the fact that he has literally no positive role models in his life and instead fetishes the concept of hope as it's the only joy in his life since he's got no friends

>>146531957
Nagito was like Togami's trial role with the character of Naegi and Junko.

Fuyuhiko serves the same role as Togami did in the survivors, being the jerk that got better (though he got better a lot more than Togami) and can be compared to both Togami and Mondo.

>>146531996
>>146532031
This.

I think if there's an actual Ultimate Hope in DR2 it's Chiaki, given that she literally dies for everyone's sins.

And if DR3 anime is any indication this is not the first time this happened

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>>146531894

>>146532032

Kodaka himself draws parallels between them. Just because they aren't direct clones regarding their place in the plot doesn't mean they don't fill the same role.

naegi/kirigiri/byakuya
hajime/chiaki/komaeda

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>>146531894
>also sonia's smile is super cute

It's because she's perfect.

>>146532035
But that wasn't her doing

>>146532061
Blah blah blah, the dude's a textbook narcissist with delusions of grandeur. The funny thing is that you fell for his bullshit.

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It looks like we've found a contradiction in Nagito's morality.
Is everyone ready to vote?

>>146531981
>How can you judge a person's character based on knowledge they don't know?
By being objective. What the character themselves knows is irrelevant. If the end result was a net positive, they are morally good

>>146532091
I thought Monaka's pupils were swastikas.

>>146532127
I love the guy but people who actually think he's good need to stop drinking the kool-aid

>>146532053
Maybe during the time between DR1 and DR2 Naegi actually went ahead and did some FTE stuff with Kirigiri, Asahina, Togami, Hagakure and Fukawa. I mean, surely he had some friendship moments with the fellow survivors, even if Asahina's in a different department.

Togami seems a lot warmer at him in DRAE.

>>146532126

>the man who constantly says he doesn't mind dying because his life isn't important is a narcissist

Think about what you just said anon

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>>146532120
Yeah, it was some prankster who thought it would be so hilarious watching Makoto freak.
Certainly not the mastermind traitor that doesn't fall asleep and might accidentally get blood splatter on him and has to cover it with fake blood.

>>146532145
But you classify Teruteru surviving and Class 77 dying as a net positive, so your "objectivity" is highly in question

>>146532150
Theyre Manji

>>146531901
He was trying to do good and if it succeeded, he wanted to ask for recognization since his seft-esteem was so low. His motives are still clear.

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>>146532091
If ties reflect my eye shape I want a tie like pic related

>>146532145
well, there seems to be people who disagree with that. UH OH. A net positive that others view as a negative. SOUNDS SUBJECTIVE TO ME.

>>146532145
Person A strangles a toddler for no reason other than for fun. It turns out that if they didn't kill this kid, then they would have grown up to start a nuclear war.

Alternatively, Person B saves a toddler from the strangler, and the kid grows up to start a nuclear war.

So you're saying Person A is morally good and Person B is evil?

How would Naegi rehab Nagito

what would a rehabilitated Nagito even look like, anyway? I put him in the same "un-rehabilitable" class as Junko.

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>>146532181
Why is Sonia such a slut? Despite that I still love her.

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>>146532127
Wait, Hinata-kun, aren't you going a bit too fast?
We still have much to uncover here about this crime.

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>Togami comes back just to save Weedman's life
>Dies immediately after
10/10 Kodaka

>>146532190

Class 77, the remnants of despair who were all responsible for millions of deaths and continually killing more?
Their deaths/comas prevented countless more

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>>146532145
But that's wrong! If you try to run over a bunch of people but instead only kill a wanted criminal, you're still morally wrong! You intended to kill civilians but the outcome changed!

>>146532250
Really there is no GOOD END for Nagito, if you became his bestie he'd put you in a life threatening situation so you could "rise above it" and "form a stronger hope."

>>146532251
I like the part when she implied she's not a virgin.

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>>146532127
Let's forget Nagito's motives. His intentions that counts. If his intention was to defeat despair, then he's morally right.

>>146532244

On a cosmic level, yes

>>146532250
I agree, we've seen that no matter the circumstance Nagito does something shitty.

>>146532114
>>146532251
She's super cute and great and perfect, but I still like Chiaki better than her, for some reason.

Maybe if she says more Gundham-isms I'd like her even more

>>146532313
Nigga thats too meta.

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>>146532279
Except by ignoring Nagito's plan, the Remnants of Despair became good.

Or in other words

Nagito gave up his life because he had no faith in Class 77

Chiaki gave up her life because she believed in Class 77

In the end, guess who was right?

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>>146532257
(We left something uncovered...?)

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Since we're on the topic, what would /dr/ do?
Which is objectively the morally correct decision?
What would komaeda do?

>>146532244
Person B is good because he saved a person, if he could predict that, then he could try to prevent it, but not saving the toddler would have been bad anyway

>>146532244
On a cosmic level, I can still kill everyone except my friends and family to get a peaceful world, there is no way this is good unless the entire fucking planet is made out of brainless zombies I couldn't save anyway

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>>146532244
This conversation is getting too complex for me

Nagito's insane.
He's just as broken as Mikan, just in some other way.

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>>146532304
as a princess she's required to know how to work the shaft for her subjects

>>146532163
No one thinks he's good. But people often classify all of the things he did as evil and that he never meant good.
Why do you think the "Komaeda mastermind" theory is so popular ? Because people only see him as a nutcase who are willing to kill anyone for the sake of hope, even when that isn't accurate at all

>>146532339

>chiaki gave up her life
She had no choice in the matter, don't go acting like she's a hero for dying

Nagito's plan would have worked. Naegi's plan did work. Both are different methods of achieving a net positive. Both are morally good.

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>>146532332
You can just like them both.

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>>146532250
>How would Naegi rehab Nagito
Good ol' fisticuffs

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>>146532354
>/dr/

Stop.

>>146532378
To be honest he could totally be the Mastermind, the guy sewed Junko's arm onto his body

>>146532313
When discussing morality, nobody gives a shit about what it is on the cosmic level unless the person taking the action has actual knowledge of this cosmic level. Otherwise they're just a shitty person that happened to luck into saving the world.

>>146529638
You seem pretty insecure of your taste uh, keep trying.

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>>146532332
She'll be more perfect if she stays away from Gundam and swears more.
Seriously, they literally advertised her as a second heroine in the opening yet suddenly they decided to shoehorn Gundam in.

>>146532354
Which ones have ultimate talents?

>>146532417

All of them.

>>146532355
>cosmic level
On a cosmic level why does your action matter anyway?

I think you meant 'on a larger scale' but 'cosmic level' is simply far too large.

>>146532354
Komaeda would fuck around and let whatever happens happen. Luck would make whatever got ran over horrible people/person anyway

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>>146532386
>She had no choice in the matter, don't go acting like she's a hero for dying

But that's wrong. She helped Hajime figure out that Nagito wanted to save the Traitor, then told everyone she was the traitor by saying HEY GUYS IT SEEMS LIKE THE TRAITOR IS NOT ALLOWED TO MENTION THEY"RE THEY TRAITOR

>>146532386
She could've kept quite and let everyone die but she didn't.
Even Monomi said she didn't have to save them since her mission was just to observe.

>>146532285
Except the point that he pushes people away due to fear of harming them. Why did you think he would do that ?

>>146532386
>She had no choice in the matter,
If she didn't reveal herself then it's likely that she would have survived.

>Nagito's plan would have worked. Naegi's plan did work. Both are different methods of achieving a net positive. Both are morally good.
This is actually true, though I would say that Naegi's result is preferable.