Schwarzesmarken / Total Eclipse / Muv Luv

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>tfw no Yugoslavia front VN

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoRawZkr5q0

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age can't web design for shit.

Too bad Axmann never got his hands on Irisdina the same way he did with Lise.
She deserves it.

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>>146489337

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>>146490699

>>146490745
>>146490699
Dumb girl like all blondes.

>>146488104
>>146488184
God fucking dammit.This is why Beatrix shouldn't be allowed to live.This is what she stands for at the end of the day. This is what she is.

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>>146491094
I want wikifags to leave.

>>146491142
Wikifags are all Beatrixfags.

>>146491174
No, there are plenty of animeonlies there as well. And since stuff posted here ends up there quickly, well, that means they are here.

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>No Gretel route

>>146491201
The two guys who repost shit there are Beatrixfags.

>>146491206
Stupid dogs don't get a route.

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Posting best girls.

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>>146491346
>Can you prove it?
He has a fucking Beatrix avatar:
http://muvluv.wikia.com/wiki/User:Garmoe

So does the admin:
http://muvluv.wikia.com/wiki/User:TheRealG3rMan

Also, how do we know that wikifag doesn't leak shit here and post it to the wiki. It's unlikely, but we're all anonymous, so who's to say what goes on.

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>>146491480
And more best girls.

>>146491515
They also won the MCbowl too.

>>146491515
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTN48hRCF5g

>>146491576
I bet Theo calls Katia "Iris" while they're having sex

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>>146491604

god fucking dammit, can anyone be ok for once?

>>146491743
Axmann is okay :^)

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who is this angel?

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>>146491867
My wife

>>146491867
>angel
something something Satan something something morning star

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>>146491867
>>146491887
Would she have sex with me if I brought back Beatrix's dead body?

>>146491919
Cut Beatrix' head off, carve the words "fuck Jurgen, he was a filthy bastard" on her forehead and present it to Iris.

I guarantee she will want to fuck your brains out.

>>146491919
No Theo, that's not how it works.

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>>146491919
You're making Pham cry in her grave, dude.

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http://hobby.dengeki.com/news/254899/

>>146491515
looks like a severe cockroach infestation to me, better call pest control

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>>146492096

>>146492096
>266 CAD
Shieeeet.

How long will this be on sale?

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>>146492127

>>146492096
i really don't like that face.

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>>146492127
Here.

>>146492147
>Release date: Mar-2017

>>146492229
Plenty of time then, thanks.

Is Katia a BETA?

>>146492327
No she is something that plagues our world as well. A do-gooder.

How pissed off would Lise be if you constantly mispronounce her name as "Louise" just to fish the reaction out of her?

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Martyrs is now on sale. Guess age really does plan to stick to September 30th release/

>>146492547
For how much?

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>>146491919
How would she react if she found out how Theo killed her former friend?

>>146492636
She found out and didn't react too much.

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>>146492597
￥ 8,004 -￥ 9,500 depending.

I'd wait for Age to announce the store benefits first though, so you can decide which girl you want to hang up on your wall this time.

>>146492636
I want to manipulate Theo into embarrassing himself in front of Irisdina by convincing him to do shit like finding Jurgen's photo and urinate on it while insulting his and Beatrix' ideals then boast about it to Iris.

I bet he's gullible enough to fall for something like that.

>>146492733
>tfw probably won't be able to get it
I just want some qt's on my wall, dammit

>>146492685
Theo told her that it shouldn't of taken long for the bitch to die. Iris doesn't know about how penetration went down.

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>>146492685
>didn't react too much.
That's what they want you to think.
>>146492773
>bitch
Wew

>>146492733
It's a shame that such a sex fiend had to meet such an end as >>146492636

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>>146491706

I want to buy Iris a ____ as a birthday gift

>>146492987
my dick in a box

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>>146492140

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Adopt best daughter.
Sell Pomeranian to Theo

>>146492228
Oh, I would INVEST in her East POLAND so hard.

Which Muv Luv girl wins in a beer drinking contest?

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>>146488104
>Trailer leaks!
Its nothing. Just a summary of the first VN they put up on the main site a few cgs that reveal nothing new.

Actual trailer when

>>146493788
Probably during this Friday's or next Friday's stream.

>>146493747
Sylwia. She's polish so she probably drinks the equivalent of an engine cleaner anyway.

I want to hit every girl in the face with a pie just to watch them pout

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>>146493456

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>>146493910
How about her?

>>146493988
She gets a chloroform rag and brainwashing sessions until she becomes a perfect wife.

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>>146490699
>that outline of a clearly visible nipple
Hurry up and fill in the rest of her Age so I can fap.

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>>146494086

>>146494271
What? It's a much better life.

>>146493945
Will Katia ever be this cute?

>>146494327
She doesn't need brainwashing, she just needs dick.

>>146494417
That's almost every girl in SM, though.

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>>146490213
So he was a T-72 tank commander? Seems like the japs really cannot decide what the East Germans should use.

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What would you do if Beatrix was your girl back home? Would you eat her cookies, write letters back to her, brag to your friends about her, hang her pictures up in your cockpit and kiss it before every major op, fap to the lewds she'd sneak to you?

When are we going to get a Muv Luv spin off that is based in North Korea or Africa?

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>>146495089
You know, her double ahoge look much more like a mature roaches antennas then does Katia's or Sumika's.

>>146495089
Yes to all points raised.

>>146495126
Never. Unless they decide to expand on the Suez Defence line.

>>146495089
>What would you do if Beatrix was your girl back home?
Save up my man milk.
>Would you eat her cookies, write letters back to her
Absolutely.
>brag to your friends about her,
And make her pictures the battalion slut? No thanks senpai. Some things require you to take to the grave. Like jalapeno spread.
>hang her pictures up in your cockpit and kiss it before every major op,
Depends
>fap to the lewds she'd sneak to you?
Fap material is a powerful resource in warzones.

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>>146495126
>based in North Korea

>implying we don't already have one

does music exit in Muv-luv?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxa2HtNzuo0

is the Shiranui really that difficult to be piloted by a non-japanese? I feel that American TSF are pretty easy to pilot as it is more technologically dependent unlike Japanese TSFs which pay more emphasis on combat capabilities.

>>146495089
Send her back locks of Iris's hair and see what happens.

>>146495330
What a yuro-very-poor army.

>>146495089
fuck stasi

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>>146495599
That'd be the plan

>>146495413
I'd much rather send Iris' satanic "literature".

>>146495675
Gently fuck Liebe
Rape Strafe

>>146495675
Why not both?

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>>146495494
Bosniaks were always the poor man's army. By the end of the war even the Croats had a decent armoured force and were managing to wreck Serbian shit but Bosniaks were always just a load of paupers with assorted AKs and submachine guns

If you had a Vivi, would you buy her tomboyish or girly clothes?

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>>146488104
Schwarzesmarken visual novel where?
please

>>146495089
I think it's a shame that she's the main villain. Beatrix is just... to top tier for that.

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>>146496754
Link? please

>>146496953
It takes less than 60 seconds of searching to find it, famalam.

>>146489620
DRUZE TITO MI TI SE KUNEMO

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>>146496974
nooooo....please senpai.

>>146497051
>13. Do not use avatars or attach signatures to your posts.

>>146497051
http://www.age-soft.co.jp/Product/sm/

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>>146496822
Ever hear of "beauty is only skin deep"? That's pretty much one of Beatrix's major character traits. Ugly on the inside, angel (or succubut) on the outside.

>>146497538
Ever hear "How the fuck do you tie your shoes?" as motivation from your immediate family?

>>146497461
That fanatical, self-destructive loyalty of hers is more beautiful than her physical appearance.

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>>146497461
I like the idea, but she's facing the wrong direction with her gun.

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>>146492096
The figures, Irisudana

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Come to bed, comrade

>>146488104
do we have any details what they did to her ?

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>>146497926
Don't be too hasty, can't spring the trap too soon. But if Beatrix gains power both are removed faster than any kebab.

>>146497836
Diehard loyalty is a desirable trait amongst potential mates.

>>146498023
>mfw couldn't roll her in SF

>>146498107
they made her step on legos

>>146498140
I dont get it anon

>>146498023
Can I bully her during sex?

>>146498129
You could roll Matika in SF?

>>146498176
it means you came here post /q/ and should leave

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>>146498185
>Matika

>>146488104
Marai ;_;

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>>146498283
Anon posted Matika, Chryska being roll-able is common knowledge,

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>>146498436
Is Chryska being the best girl common knowledge too?

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So why does age hype up Beatrix's and Theo's final showdown so much? It's honestly a huge let down and lacks the build up to really give it an oomph.

Ironically, Lise's last fight was way better. It was way more fierce, and Lise actually managed to do a number to Theo's TSF, compared to his fight with Beatrix where it never really felt like Theo was struggling as hard as he should.

>>146498436
>>146498536
>Chryska
Mandela effect?

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>>146498556
Nah, I'm just drunk. No idea about the other guy though.

>>146498536
I don't think so.

>>146498551
It honestly is a let down but its been said countless times before. Iris vs Beatrix and Theo/Lise vs Axmann is a more satisfying conclusion. Hopefully the other routes improve on the ending.

>>146498551
Final fight and the only one where Theo really gets to look badass I guess.

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>>146498536
No

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What if every route is secretly a katia route and we get anime tier ending in each route?

>>146498798
>only one where Theo really gets to look badass I guess.
Even in the anime he looked more badass during operation Neptune than he did when he killed Beatrix. And in the LN its simply executing a disabled enemy after Walter had done the heavy lifting.

>>146499027
Age gets its second Kusoge award?

>>146498551
It's because it represents SM's themes of good triumphing over evil best. As for lack of build up, the stasi and Beatrix by association are responsible for fucking over Theo's life, brainwashing Lise, and hurting or killing many of his friends. His showdown with Beatrix was Theo overcoming his past fears and laying low the smug bitch who'd once viewed him as nothing more than human dirt.

>>146499122
It's hard to see in the promo pic but does Beatrix have one arm, or two?

>>146499125
Settle down there, Robert H. Jackson

>>146499027
Jap Lisefags are crazy, so I think they'd be the most butthurt about it. Irisfags have mixed feelings about Iris getting Theo to begin with.

>>146499125
>It's because it represents SM's themes of good triumphing over evil best.

https://twitter.com/uchidahiroki/status/715940630501859329

Straight from the Author's twitter.

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>>146498551
>Iris = future
>Cockroach = hope
>Lise = past
6d pottery

>>146499467
What does Beatrix represent then?

>>146499489
Dehumanized scapegoat

>>146499467
>Iris = future
Well, yeah. Future is frightening and terrible.
>Lise = past
Past is idiotic and terrible, so makes sense too.

>>146499489
The German Democratic Republic.

>>146499489
rape

>>146499538
Right? Iris holding a gun is what a got from that. The future can't be stopped, just like how a pendant and a ribbon can't stop a gun from killing you.

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>>146499489
She obviously represents sacrifice.

>>146499467
>Lise = Family
Fixed.

>>146499590
The future also leads to nothing good and is absolutely disgusting. Just like Irisdina.

>>146499538
And cockroach = naivety that only makes things worse in the long run.

>>146499782
>(Also, I think I would ship Makarov and Beatrix)
Beatrix hates Ruskies and looks down her nose on them.

>>146500769
>Beatrix hates Ruskies and looks down her nose on them.

Perfect relationship. They either hatefuck, or fakefuck (you know, when two characters have sex even though they are planning to betray each other and the camera shows them both grinning evilly and looking at each other out of the corner of their eyes because they know the other can´t see that).

Also, they are pretty much kindred souls. They are both willing to massacre tons of their fellow countrymen to make their nation greater in the long run.

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>>146490745
>Lise upset and crying

>>146501327
>spic can't count
unsurprising

>>146490745
What would you guys do if Lise gave you that look?

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Doing cute things at school with Lise!

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D-Doing lewd things at home with Lise...?

>>146501592
She's not really giving a look so much as shouting in your general direction. Be pretty awkward if she thinks she's facing Theo but is just chewing out some random rebel.

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>>146501696

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>>146501609
>>146501653
Everyday.

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>>146501930
I'm surprised Theo didn't side with her. You'd think the guilt of snitching on and letting her down once would be enough of a hook in him for Lise to drag him anywhere.

Iris is a top tier girl and all, but c'mon, he's only known her for a couple of months at best, and even then, she remains a mystery to him. Pham and Walter know her way better than he knows her. Not saying that Iris wasn't interested in him considering she went on a psuedo-date in Berlin with him, but these two people still really haven't gotten to know one another in a very deep, romantic way like let's say Walter and Sylwia have.

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Inia, Yui and Cryska are my waifus.

>>146502542
>Iris is a top tier girl
What "top"? Top slut?

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Best girls.

>>146502630
I want to break into you favella and dye you and your mom's hair blonde.

>>146502622
Add Munakata and Yuuko and you've got a deal.

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What else needs to be added?

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>>146502898
You should add the Sumika spammer too.

>Raptor-Chan

Lel

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Just preordered Irisdina bunny figure. Feels good man.

I want to slowly dismember Irisdina with an axe, making sure she suffers terrible pain and cries like a bitch before she dies

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>>146491206
Why the fuck would anyone want a Gretel route? Pham deserves it infinitely before her.

>>146491094
No. Just, it's not.

>>146491887
Hey, more art! Nice.

>>146491919
>>146492015
As he said. Why would you say this?

>>146503676
Even a filthy gook deserves a route more than Irisdina.
I wish this >>146449103
was Irisdina who had a slashed throat and gasped for air instead of Axmann.

>>146503867

How do we cut off internet in the favelas?

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>>146503002
>Implying I fucking post here as a namefag/tripfag unless I'm mentioned

Also who the fuck is the chick in the OP? The Secretary?

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>>146495126
Africa maybe will get something starting with a featurette in TSFiA. I am really curious how South Africa is looking, considering I don't think the Western world would have been trying to undermine the old government like they did in real life. Would be neat too to see, a Cheetah TSF, and even a Carver TSF. Though they likely wouldn't have been at Yukon, since they have their country still. But then again, if South Africa hadn't been embargoed to hell and back, would they have stuck with the Mirage III/Cheetah?


REMEMBER CUITO CARNAVALE

>>146495675
Would worship both Liebe and Strafe.

I don't think North Korea exists, since Japan surrendered in 1944 to America, and the Soviets were still balls deep in the fight of their life on the front with Germany. Could be wrong though, age doesn't seem to have said anything one way or another.

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>>146504180
Really africa is kind of a blank slate in the world at the moment. I'd expect they'd provide food, manpower, and maintenance work alongside infrastructure for UN troops in Africa and the Med.

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>>146498436
Is Matika rather naughty? She doesn't seem to have so much autism.

But there seems a distinct lack of empathy.

>>146498789
>>146499125
Stop this already.

>>146499489
Faith.

>>146502542

speaking of best girl, my proxy shipped the marui doujin. soon. maybe.

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>>146504398
What? As long as there has to be a final fight Iris/Beatrix settling their feud and Theo/Lise getting their revenge on Axmann is the best way to do it.

>>146504264
>implying that having these guys https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kebur_Zabagna in gaudily painted Migs or Mirages holding the Bab-el-Mandeb wouldn't kick ass

>>146504398
>Is Matika rather naughty?
She's rather mean I hear, thus the filename. Well, considering that she volunteered for "dummy system" duty, her life prior to her Yukon base deployment must have been hellish, and developing such an attitude isn't strange in such cases.

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>>146502898
But why Raptorman?

>>146495089
I just realized she literally put a Kiss Me here section because she knew Jurgen would kiss the photo.

;__________________;

>>146503867
>>146503968
How much would it cost to send BOPE on a cleansing operation?

>>146504108
It's Marai my dude. Remember that commissar girl that was hanging out with commander Hannibal? The one with longer hair and the mole on her left?

Quest when. Kouki even did an A-12 concept now.

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>>146504652
I've got an OP and shit typed out, Might run in like 30 minutes or so because I've got all my classwork done.

And shit, I already forgot Marai. Whelp.

>>146504569
>Crazy Ethopians in F-5's
Sold.

>>146504652

There's a PMESP captain who has a big Policia Militar Q&A thread in /k/ every now and then. He's not PMERJ, but maybe he knows a guy who knows a guy?

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>>146504494
You're missing the entire goddamn point though. Theo, who he chooses, not only is a representation of whose ideals he wishes to follow, but he essentially becomes their hand, their instrument with which they will change the world.

Because the anime is pretty much the Katia route, it's Theo's belief in choosing Katia's boundless optimism and her partial existence as a symbol for freedom that he's reduced to fighting Beatrix as a symbol of the oppression of the past. That's why the fight feels the way it does. It is Theo, but not only Theo fighting in that cockpit, do you get me?

Iris and Bea won't settle their feud. And they wouldn't do it with TSFs anyways. Theirs is a much deeper battle, you can't just reduce their years and all their feelings to one single TSF battle.

As for Axmann, it's looking like at least one route will have Theo/Lise getting their revenge on Axmann. Considering you seem to want to reduce this to a videogame, I don't see how Axmann as their 'final boss' works. He's merely cunning and slimy, and knows some hand to hand combatives. AFAIK, he doesn't even pilot a TSF.

Look at it this way - Theo is like Arrakis. He who controls the Spice controls the Universe.

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>>146505007
You're putting way too much importance on Theo.

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>>146495089
Extra bit.

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<Yo buddy, still alive?>
>>>/tg/49083333

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>>146504753
>Crazy Ethopians in F-5'sSold.
It has long been my Head-cannon, considering that the BETA-verse is more "Right-wing" over-all than ours, and that the Iranian Imperial Guard still exist there, that the Jap Imperial Guard isn't a isolated phenomenon in that world. So there must be, at least in my opinion, a British TSF Guards Regiment, just like the Guards Machine Gun regiment existed during WW1, in red Typhoons of course, and so on for Spain, Thailand, Ethiopia and whatever other monarchies had a strong identity when the BETA landed. It would certainly explain why nobody criticises the obscenely inefficient Japanese procurement method, where noble birth gets you a vastly better Mech than talent.

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>>146505007
>Considering you seem to want to reduce this to a videogame
Or how about fuck you, you condescending passive aggressive delusional dancing skeleton fuckwit. It's a Visual fucking Novel what do you expect

I'd rather everyone settle their differences peacefully (except in Axmann's case that fucker needs to go down) but we all know thats not gonna happen. And if thats how its gonna go down theres a better way to do than how it was handled in the LN/anime.

Also what this guy said >>146505173 You're reading way too much into this and coming to some far gone conclusions.

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>>146505173
Funny, others would say the opposite. That I'm taking away Theo's wishes and agency as an induvidual, just making him an insturment.

>>146505247
Well we already know British elites get the Excalibur sword, but, that said I don't think it extends that extreme in the world. Well Thailand we don't know, they probably could get away with the imperial guard obscenities, but Japan's is not only more problematic because Japan is a powerful high tech nation on the frontlines, but there are legions of "royals" to take care of, since it's not just the Emperor and their family, but the five damiyos, and ALL their retainers and vassal samurai families.

>>146504753
>not wanting ramshackle Somali F-4/Mig-21 Frankenstein abominations holding the strait

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>>146505585
>ramshackle Somali F-4/Mig-21 Frankenstein abominations holding the strait
Also appealing, but not in the same way.

>>146488184
Was she dicked?

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>>146505175
Theo is going to be having some confused dreams tonight.

>>146505585
>>146505650
>the Ogaden War is turned into a rivalry between the pragmatic Somali Units in ramshackle, heavily modified Migs vs. the snobby but still suicidally brave Ethiopian Guards units in gaudily painted Mirages.

Works for me. We get those East Africans who were testing their shit in Yukon base and some former Soviet or DDR Mercenaries and we got ourselves a nice story.

>>146488104
>>146488184
>all the the titty monsters get beaten and killed
Fucking hell.

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>>146505562
The sad thing is, Axmann is more likely to get a happy ending where he's let off. Beatrix looks like she's going to die via Theo's girth in every route.

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>>146505890

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>>146505885
>Mirages
So what are the merc's flying then, old Soviet gear? Swedish stuff that SAAB can't find a buyer for? F-4's?

>>146505948
Why does the knife look like it completely misses her in this shot? Does the BD correct this oversight?

What the fuck. The Japs are reposting are comments:

http://soresore.net/archives/1054775936.html

>>146505982
Depends on whether they are survivors or deserters in my opinion. A former Soviet pilot who was cut off when the BETA overran the Caucasus in the 70s might ditch his original machine for a new one, and some East German or other WP deserter who managed to evade the Werewolves or their local equivalent might do the same. But if, lets say some Werewolf or some member of some other Elite unit managed to survive a Purge, failed offensive, BETA attack, etc. , they might have some attachment to their Machine, and might rather modify it and improve it rather than ditch it.

But I do think I remember F-5s being cheaper than F-4s, in canon. Otherwise surplus Mig-23s or early Sukhoi TSFs the Soviets want to get rid of. Though post Gripen, they might get those instead.

>>146506286
>are
our

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>>146505948
When will the Volume VI BDs be uploaded already?

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>>146506377

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>>146503245
Good on you anon.

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>>146505913
No. Theres absolutely no way they would do that.

I like to think South Africa and her vassal states have at least the whole south locked down, and aren't under embargo. Don't think the world gives too many shits about African liberation in the ML world. Then again, it could still be not official policy but Saffies often have a bad rep abroad. Who knows.

>>146506286
Wait, where? Alls I see is Moon, no screencaps. Or are they putting it in JP?

>>146506286
I'm not surprised.

>>146506508
age is a big fan of audience participation. They want you to feel despair, frustration, pain and anger too.

>>146506650
>Or are they putting it in JP?
Bingo. Open up some of the images and they have English subs.

>>146506286
I bet they're all laughing at us.

>>146507037
Through dick, unity. Japs mostly discuss muv luv like /a/.

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>>146506650
>>146506689
>The Japs are watching us
I'm giggling, I wonder what the hell they think of all our shitposting about slavs and how nippon stronk is utter bullshit.

>>146507037
>>146507070
>>146507099
Actually, if you go down to the comments, they're arguing about our points on Annete. We actually made an Annetefag cry. Feels good.

Also, there's a lack of Beatrixposting, on there. Granted, a lot of posts concerning Beatrix lack any substance, so I can see why he skipped over those. I don't know why he skipped over the critiques we had of the ending. He probably just took it from the thread right after the anime ended, where a bunch of the seasonals or Katiafags were very happy with Schwarzesmarken. The criticism really didn't come until afterwards.

>>146507099
英語圏の連中には良さが伝わらなかったようだな、残念だわ コメ欄でテンプレコメントしてる連中、アンチコメントする為だけに来てるのが丸わかりだぞｗ

>>146507218
>Feels good.
To any nippons reading this thread he's an outlier

>>146507218
I wouldn't say SM's ending was bad; the show overall was enjoyable enough for me. Probably could have been better in some way but hey, as is I've got no real complaints as the shitposting it generated was top notch.

>>146507284
Don't speak moon anon pls explain.

>>146507218
Specifically what points about Anett? That she passes her death flags to everyone around her?

>>146507421
Mostly the gun toss, but yeah, there's a bit of that, especially with them arguing in the comments about whether or not she was responsible for Sylwia.

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>>146507284
>英語圏の連中には良さが伝わらなかったようだな、残念だわ コメ欄でテンプレコメントしてる連中、アンチコメントする為だけに来てるのが丸わかりだぞｗ

Not a moon reader, but here's what Google says it is dunno how accurate:
>Do not seem was not transmitted is good for guys of the English-speaking world , guys that are template comments in just a pity rice field , you 'll see a round that has come only to anti- comment w

I'm not sure entirely what the fuck he's saying aside from what I assume is 'EOP peasants don't understand'

>>146507524
>hand grenade
Seriously?

>>146507610
Elevens are pretty bad with English. Whoever was translating that obviously had a hell of a laugh though.

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>>146504413
soon

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Mein herz brennt

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>>146507218
>We actually made an Annetefag cry. Feels good.

I-it's okay japanon. She's still a wonderful girl.

;_;

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>>146508098
She's not exactly the brightest bulb though.

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>>146507958
Will we ever get to see Beatrix in something that isn't state-issued for Martyrs.

>>146508580
It sucks falling in love with an evil girl/main baddie, especially in action oriented anime.

>>146508580
>>146508352
Why is Beatrix so pale compared to Annete?

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>>146508352

Annett is like a 60 watt replacement compact fluorescent light bulb. She may not be particularly bright, but she's pretty easy on the eyes.

>>146509278
Ever heard of pale skinned brunettes?

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>>146508352
That doesn't mean she's a horrible person.

Is SF scrapped right? there is no way the game would release in a month. Why age and dmm cant doo a game on fucking time.

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It seemed to me that Iris wanted Beatrix to ravish her here?

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>>146510710
Maaaaybe. Beato certainly did admire her tats.

>She said to Theo ____________ ?

>>146511877
Why is Iris that close to Theo? Is she trying to make him cum through his pants?

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>>146511877
You see, that's why Iris is sexier than Beatrix. She has sex appeal, but she doesn't flaunt or go overboard with it, only flashing it when you least expect it.

>>146512857
Beatrix vs Iris is basically vanilla vs chocolate. They're both real good and some days you want chocolate, and others vanilla.

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>>146512987
Or you have both at the same time for double the fun.

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>>146512857
What if I like both?

Iris can't give me a fearection, for example.

>>146489337
Is this scene from the first SM VN?

>>146489620
You already have commies

>>146500769
B-but I like her. ;_;

>>146514867
>not wanting the Non-Aligned Movement

>>146514887
Well, you guys were partially responsible for fucking up her country and her life. Not to mention Schmidt (who's Russian) sexually harasses her, calls her a bimbo, tries to kill her, and enables guys like Axmann. Then you have her KGB handlers, who treat her with contempt and distaste. Can you blame her for having a negative opinion on Russia?

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>>146513955
Will you use that fearection to puncture and kill her like Theo did?

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>>146514763
No, it from Martyrs.

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>>146515878
>"I wish Yuuya would cum on my face instead of the Slav..."

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>>146516079
Stop that. Yui is perfect and has me. Not that mechasexual Yuuya.

>>146515878
>>146516079
I wish SM had a manga like TE and ML:E/U/A.

Are orbital divers all Canadian?

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>I'm going to get flamed for this but I think the rebels were totally justified and the stasi totally wrong. The stasi were the ones instigating everything, just so they could get more power. It wasn't enough to rip apart the country, all three of the major stasi figureheads turned on each other out of greed, just so they could play king (or queen) in a country that was already on its last legs. Everything the stasi does in SM is for power. It has no interest in helping its people and will eat itself just to rule for one day longer.

>I don't know about you guys, but with how smug and punchable they made the stasi, watching them die was way more satisfying than watching BATERS die for the millionth time. Theo killing Beatrix was as badass as anything in the original Muv-Luv, and it was cathartic just because you could attach a face to the object of hate. Really, the stasi weren't anything more than nazi standins, and it's always fun to watch nazis die. I didn't see that many of the deaths as pointless either. It was more basic good vs evil, heroes and villains shit. Sure, the BETA was bad, but the only way the could fix that problem was to fix the stasi problem right in front of their eyes.

>>146515878
Yui is too lewd, her desire that strong

I hope they finish TE someday. It's not too late!

>>146517214
/m/, the last refuge of the anime only.

>>146517636
At this point, I'm pretty sure they do it just to piss us off.

Why is Lise so perfect?

>>146518217
Because Lise is love. Raw, unfiltered, fiery love.

>>146516518
french too

>>146516518
Where did you get that idea?

Many to most are American, they're the only ones with enough resources to maintain their own Orbital Divers corps

>>146519091
>>146519091
Elle from the day after ,the real one is canadian and the fake one that tease hibiki is french.

>>146519807
Is takeru consider as an orbital diver?

>>146520251
No because the susano didnt fell at a big speed

>>146520368
What about the rest of the AX-01 squad?

>>146519807
Orbital Divers are not solely USA pilots. America also gets support and backing from UN and other countries to maintain entirety of Orbital Dropped forces. So there are also many divers that are not Americans.

ML sure reads like honey for a north american that loves space.
>Space station and military moon base in 60s
>a whole orbital infrastructure in 00s

>>146520605
Ant the whole slower-than-light interstellar spacecraft by the 70s and FTL by 2004?

I want to brush Anett's hair as she puts her head on my lap

>>146520728
And that too, yes. Helps to take the mind off the current state of na space.

>>146520773
I just want to play SF alrdy

Is 666 Schwarzesmarken unit and Latrova's squad from TE the only ones that are real good at Laserjagd? I am not too sure why but my gut feeling tells me that the commies are real good when it comes to Laserjagd.

>>146521082
You want to cuck all male MC of Muv-Luv franchise that badly?

>>146521162
>playing a male
Yuri is not cucking

Found a review that kind of resonates with me concerning SM:

>Before I continue, I'd like to reiterate that the quality of Muv-Luv, or lack thereof, has no bearing on my assessment of Schwarzesmarken. An anime spinoff should stand on its own merits instead of riding its predecessors momentum. As for the actual plot, Theodor is a pilot with an attitude problem but his skills make him a member of the infamous 666th squadron. Couldn't fucking resist, could you?

>I'll be upfront, Schwarzesmarken reeks of misery porn, especially with that habit of using monstrous villains and I don't mean the aliens. It's very much a trait of teen focus media, a fascination with aberrant cruelty and the visceral reaction it incites. On this front, it's actually clever in using the stasi as villains given their historical contribution to the art of oppression and subtle psychological torture. But within Schwarzesmarken, their presence is really just a band aid for what I consider poor writing.

>Kill shit at random, cause administrative chaos, posture, nothing you haven't seen before. If you think about the well known, sadistic monsters within anime, you may land on ones like Dio Brando or Kirei Kotomine. Both have traits that make them memorable. The former is at least creative in his methods while the latter spent years struggling with himself before accepting that the only thing that could make him feel is human suffering. The difference isn't in how you could interpret their backstories as sympathetic, it's a matter of presentation and depth. Both of these aspects are absent in Schwarzesmarken's resident monster, Beatrix Brehme, who is a smug, slimy, unlikable, grinning fucker that makes a lot of threats, but there's nothing substantive to separate her from the standard anime villain.

>>146521207
You're an idiot.

>>146521203
Strike Frontier will not offer choice of gender for player self insert character. It's locked as male.

Why is Katia so much better than every other girl?

>>146521311
Because best girl with the only canon route

>>146521296
I heard otherwise

>>146521333
Really? That would be cool. Now only if they also make option for fucking Male characters and that game would be perfect.

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>>146521311
>>146521328
I legitimately feel sorry for you. Sorry that you can't back up your claims, sorry that there is no substance or thought put into your position, sorry that you feel the need the attack other girls to make up for your lack of security, sorry that you don't even win in your own route, sorry that things only get worse because of what your girl does in the long run, and sorry for your shit taste.

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>>146506286
You mean reddit?

Katia = Suzy > everyone else > shit > gook > Pole > Beatrix > Lise > Inghild >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Irisdina

Is there a less likable girl than Irisdina?

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>>146521601
Yes, every other girl.

>>146521457
No wonder you have a few Elevens throwing fits in the comments below.

>>146521640
Impossible. Irisdina is a complete cunt who deserves to have her head bashed in with a dumbbell until all that's left is red paste on the ground and some hair. Only Lise comes close in terns of being disgusting.

>>146521440
Katia is just objectively better than any other girl. Especially Irisdina.

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>>146520773
You're a good soul!

She has at least the chance of salvaging her life with you!

Give her some puppers

>>146521147
No, very incorrect. Generally most if not all armies have a unit dedicated to Laserjagd, it's a common tactic - it's the ML equivalent of SEAD missions. Their effectiveness varies though. The 666th are the Eastern Bloc's few if any remaining elite units, and they're specialized for it. Which is natural since Jurgen was the one who pioneered a lot of the tactics and methods in such missions in the first place. But they're not the only pros. The US Infinities for example, are extremely good at it.

As for Latrova's Zhar kids, no they're not good at it. They're good overall, but they don't do laserjagd, hence them being very worried when Latrova proposes it.

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>>146521207
>Kill shit at random, cause administrative chaos, posture, nothing you haven't seen before. If you think about the well known, sadistic monsters within anime, you may land on ones like Dio Brando or Kirei Kotomine. Both have traits that make them memorable. The former is at least creative in his methods while the latter spent years struggling with himself before accepting that the only thing that could make him feel is human suffering. The difference isn't in how you could interpret their backstories as sympathetic, it's a matter of presentation and depth. Both of these aspects are absent in Schwarzesmarken's resident monster, Beatrix Brehme, who is a smug, slimy, unlikable, grinning fucker that makes a lot of threats, but there's nothing substantive to separate her from the standard anime villain.
I mean, that describes anime Beatrix pretty well except for a little bit in episode 12.

Why didn't Theo beat up Irisdina and Polish slut? If anyone deserves it, it's them.

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>>146520773

Does anyone know where to get some BiS raws?

Are all Pomeranians so stupid or just Katia?

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I want to throw snowballs at these nerds.

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Did I do an okay job?

>>146523448
She kind of looks like Agiri from KMB, though that's not a bad thing.

>>146523581
Since the default buns only went to that size, I surmized that with having shorter hair when younger, she'd wear it out a bit more.

Shame about no boob adjust.

Latrova is fat

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>>146524093
Just a little mom fat, that's all. Body is keeping her prepped to become a mom again, which is a good thing!

Funny enough, looking over all my Latrova stuff from across anime, VN, artworks, it seems they can't ever keep the boobs or even her figure in general consistent.

>>146524342

she better get to work then, there's only a 5% chance per month that a 40 year old woman will get preggers versus 20% for a 30 year old woman.

>>146524342
Is she a skilled eishi or just a veteran? Besides, what happened to her in the TE anime because iirc she just disappears after saving Yuuya? and what happened to the other members of Zhar Battalion since they disappeared out of thin air and not included in the later plots?

SM is far better than original trology

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yff2xOFo4mg

This is OST fits just well in this AMV

>>146498176
Stepping on lego hurts like hell.

>>146524093
I don't see it. She look like a normal slim matured woman to me.

>>146495379
>is the Shiranui really that difficult to be piloted by a non-japanese? I feel that American TSF are pretty easy to pilot as it is more technologically dependent unlike Japanese TSFs which pay more emphasis on combat capabilities.
It's not that Japanese TSFs pay emphasis on combat capabilities, it's that Japanese had to force more performance out of a very underpowered machine which meant a very fiddly craft overly sensitive to changes in the aerodynamic control surfaces.

For a parallel, see WW2 - the Mitsubishi Zero (very light and thus agile in close dogfights but very fragile and poor climbing performance, only an experienced veteran could draw out its full potential) versus the Grumman Hellcat (not as agile in close combat, but more rugged and durable, and with greater power and speed, even a novice pilot could safely push it to the edge of its performance envelope). Guess which won out.

(Though to be honest even the Wildcat which was both slower and less maneuverable than the Zero succeeded in getting favorable K:D ratio against it by virtue of being more durable and its pilots using better tactics)

I want to buy Lise ice-cream and savor the expression on her face when she bites too much.

>>146525662
>It's not that Japanese TSFs pay emphasis on combat capabilities, it's that Japanese had to force more performance out of a very underpowered machine which meant a very fiddly craft overly sensitive to changes in the aerodynamic control surfaces.

Is this Japanese's engineering philosophy or it's just that japan lacks the technology and resources to domestically built a high performance TSF?

Because as far I'm concern, Japanese eishi are more conventional as they relied more on boost jumps and agility whereas American's style of piloting is more towards aviation. Am i right in that sense?

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>>146524858
She's got time to make up for, her body will adapt.

>>146525210
You're asking a lot of questions, aren't you? Well, she's very much a veteran and a skilled pilot, if that makes sense?

Also, did you not watch the episode? The Scarlet Twins, probably prafka'd, were sent after her. As for Zhar, presumably they were killed off too, and/or died during their laserjagd.

TE VN reveals they weren't.

>>146525662
>>146495379
Thanks for saying that, I was going to say basically that earlier, but felt you may pop up.

Also, questionanon, maybe this part is more opinion, but it's also that intersecting with the bullshit Japanese mentality that they're more finessed and poised and all that other crap than everyone else on the planet. I guess at best, it's very benign and innocent, but it's a cultural attitude nonetheless. Look, for example, at their WWII propaganda. Now it's very common for war propaganda to reduce the enemy to an animal, but it nonetheless is interesting which animal they pick and the themes present in the art. Westerners, and especially Americans, were largely depicted apes and other monsters. Basically monkeys who lumbered around everywhere with no grace or finesse. You can compare that, say, with WWI Allied posters about the Germans, where they were reduced to apes. But there, it was their strength and barbarity and lack of human civility that was emphasized, compared to the JP's version, where it was more intending to showcase primitivity, uselessness, unevolved.

I guess while it's not Yamato Damashi, it does criss cross quite a bit. A similar story can be said of the horse and it's rider are one, which is not a foreign concept to any nation that ever fielded cavalry, but Yui think's it's theirs alone.

I don't know at this point if it's an intentional deconstruction/realisitic pacing by Kouki, or if it's an unconscious thing that snuck it's way in.

>>146526019
>The Scarlet Twins, probably prafka'd, were sent after her.
So she is dead in both the anime and TE?

>>146517768
What I don't get is why they treat the anime as canon served from god himself?

Does the concept "Anime original" not exist on /m/? I haven't watched loads of mecha but I'm certain there are changes even they wouldn't appreciate.

>>146526019
>but felt you may pop up
Felt who may pop up?

>>146525971
Everybody uses boost jumps and agility. See Raptors flying actual circles around the coup forces. Americans just don't go full sword.

>>146526166
>Does the concept "Anime original" not exist on /m/?
It's just shitposters.

>>146526658
>See Raptors flying actual circles around the coup forces. Americans just don't go full sword

i remember someone from TDA saying that American Eishi's adopt the "all-guns doctrine" (forgot the actual line) and the weakness to this doctrine is it relies heavily on ammunition. I know american are good at cruising, but their TSFs will be at a disadvantage when it comes to confined zones. I believe that is how the underpowered Shiranui has the upper against the Raptors.

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>>146526115
What?

You mean both the anime and VN? I literally just said otherwise.

>>146526899
I don't think you understand just how strong a quantum leap the Raptors are against anything before it.

And it's not like the Raptor can't go full melee. It's just bigger melee weapons like swords would tend to disrupt the stealth, besides the doctrinal issues. American doctrine may favor ranged, but it's not likely they have zero melee emphasis. Otherwise they wouldn't include combat knives. And the YF-23 one upped it even better, it had it's very own swords.

Also, why are you constantly harping on about cruising? Everyone cruises into egress, and everyone uses boost jumps and shit. The whole POINT of TSFs is so they can do that! Confined zones they actually would do even better in - did you again not watch TE? Do you not remember Yuuya testing the Raptor, or the Infinities fight against Bao Feng?

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Presumably, this can be carried by the F-22 as well.

So even America can into swords now.

>>146526899
On the other hand, most everything will be dead by that time. Remember in Unlimited even Meiya ridiculed the idea that a sword is stronger than a gun in close quarters.

Ideally under American tactical doctrine when you run low on ammo you'd RTB or find a resupply container to rearm, while your buddies give covering fire to support your retreat or relief forces arrive. See: real life, bayonet charges are not common anymore.

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>>146528042
>ridiculed the idea that a sword is stronger than a gun in close quarters.
What if pilots are superhuman?

>>146528042
>See: real life, bayonet charges are not common anymore.
Even in real life Americans do crazy shit in CQC

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>>146526899
>>146528042
Also, bear in mind that even the weakness is not so much when you think about it.

How do you solve ammunition problems? Incredible industrial base, and logistics.

Now who has the most powerful industrial machine in the world? And who does logistics better than any military on Earth?

You want to know how Shirunais fighting against the Raptor, for the most part goes? Remember Cui's fight against the Infinities? Something like that. Cui thought the same thing as you - namely, their stealth would be negated with the close quarters combat, that the surrounding environment would not give them clear fields of fire, and that their presumed lack of melee would be a fatal mistake once inside their engagement envelope. It went the opposite instead - not only was the Raptor's stealth much more total than they even remotely thought was possible, but the Raptor's agility was way more than they thought possible. And then there is this - when you enter a zone with some sort of obstacle or effect in play, you are also subject to the same problems the enemy is. And thus the Infinities made mincemeat out of Bao Feng.

>>146528234
Those superhuman pilots prefer chainsaws.

Would Europe have been saved if 5 F-22's hypothetically made it to the Oder-neisse?

>>146527274
>did you again not watch TE? Do you not remember Yuuya testing the Raptor, or the Infinities fight against Bao Feng?

I was basing my point on the Muv Luv Alternative's VN, which is the 12-5 incident. Raptors indeed have a superior advantage, but was later nailed down by the shiranui in the end. So, isn't that a known fact that Shiranui does better in confined places? or you think that's the pilot's problem for not being skilled enough to push the Raptor to its limits?

>>146528435
Walken's F-22 was sabotaged by CIA, and was engaged before, and skill also may have played some role.

>>146528416
Raptor doesn't exactly shine against BETA - it just becomes a very fast and maneuverable TSF, without any overwhelming advantage.

>>146528435
As mentioned, not only CIA shiggidy diggity, but Saigiri and his crew were some of the best Japan had. Takeru himself I think said without XM3, they'd have all been killed. They still even then barely got away from that with their lives. And the coup forces enjoyed not only home field advantage, but the F-22s were barely out of their crates. And then they'd been thrown into the fray fighting without end.

You have to remember all the VNs take the unreliable narrator approach too. Takeru is omitting things, and is unaware of things. The Raptors were literally running rings around the Shirunais at times.

>>146528416
No.

>>146528416
What difference 5 Raptors would made against Hordes of BETA? None.
Even if they really outperform 1st generation TSF, F-22 would quickly become useless because no one would be able to provide proper maintenance and spare parts to them.

>>146529979
wew lad

>>146529979
What does this have to do with Muv Luv discussion?

>>146530025
>>146530131
Don't respond, just report him.

Which girl would you haze?

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>>146531596
Iris

I'd teasingly bully her until she falls in love with me

>>146526861
Not really. There's a contingent of /m/ that really don't like SM. The old guard, those who think like TESG or T94 detest SM for instances. The anime just confirms their biases, so the use it as a hammer to beat down discussion.